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Speaker 2: the air. A question tonight was what's the goofy thing

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Speaker 2: you believed when you were a little kid?

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Speaker 3: And it all started when I was telling a.

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Speaker 2: Story about how when I was little, I used to

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Speaker 2: think the babies came out of mom's feet.

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Speaker 3: That was just a weird kid. And you guys have

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Speaker 3: been great, had been great.

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Speaker 2: One guy was telling us he thought that he had

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Speaker 2: little Martian antennas in his hands.

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Speaker 3: By the way, we didn't know.

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Speaker 2: He says, there were two black spots in my hands,

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Speaker 2: and I thought there were Martian antennas. So he eventually

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Speaker 2: dug one out, but he didn't tell us what they were.

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Speaker 2: He called back to say that he got like slivers

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Speaker 2: in there of some sort, so he just had slivers

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Speaker 2: and he so actually picking one out with them with

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Speaker 2: a pin was probably the right thing to do. Otherwise

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Speaker 2: I thought he was naming himself, like digging out moles

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Speaker 2: or something like that. So we asked, what's what's the

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Speaker 2: goofy thing that you believe when you were a kid? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I distinctly recall believing that monkeys controlled traffic lights.

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Speaker 3: That's awesome. I think that takes the cake right there. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's pretty great. Just a little kid thinking that there's

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Speaker 3: trained monkeys out there, red light, green light. That's pretty great.

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Speaker 3: I love that. Very good, very good.

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Speaker 2: This comes as a surprise to no one, and that

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Speaker 2: is that there are concerns that any Warner Brothers merger is.

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Speaker 3: Going to cost jobs.

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Speaker 2: Weird, right, So strange that in a town that's based

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Speaker 2: on the entertainment industry you would have entertainers that are

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Speaker 2: concerned that a giant merger could be a threat to

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Speaker 2: your career. You are one hundred correct to fear that

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Speaker 2: one correct. In fact, Fox eleven was talking about either

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Speaker 2: the Netflix or the Paramount deal. We don't know which

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Speaker 2: one ultimately, or who knows, there could be a dark

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Speaker 2: horse we don't even know yet could come through and

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Speaker 2: uh and disrupt things.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 3: They were at Fox eleven. They were talking with Michael Schneider.

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Speaker 2: He's the executive editor of TV for Variety, and they

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Speaker 2: were they were asking him about the jobs, and you know,

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Speaker 2: is one better or worse for our region?

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Speaker 5: There is a difference in these offers? Is one deal?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah?

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Speaker 2: Because the difference is this Netflix wants the Warner Studio properties.

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Speaker 2: They don't want anything to do with the linear product

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Speaker 2: the Discovery properties, the CNN, the TNT, the Discovery HGCV

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Speaker 2: that Netflix doesn't care about that stuff.

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Speaker 3: Paramount says, we'll take the whole thing.

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Speaker 5: Feel better for Hollywood then the other.

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Speaker 6: They're both terrible for Hollywood. Clear this is not going

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Speaker 6: to be good either way. Whenever you have a merger

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Speaker 6: like this or an acquisition, there are jobs to be lost,

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Speaker 6: there's efficiencies to be had, which means f your productions.

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Speaker 6: You know, each side, of course will say that they

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Speaker 6: have the better deal, that they are willing to do

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Speaker 6: more productions, more movies. Paramount argues that Netflix isn't going

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Speaker 6: to put movies to the theaters anymore. Netflix disagrees. There's

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Speaker 6: also a question of monopoly. But then again, if Netflix

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Speaker 6: takes over, then what happens to HBO Max. But if

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Speaker 6: Paramount takes over, what happens to Warner Brothers the studio. Again,

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Speaker 6: that's why both sides have a lot to remain desired.

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Speaker 5: But will one for sure happen, meaning will the DOJ

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Speaker 5: or FTC? This requires their approval, so surely they will

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Speaker 5: choose one of the deals.

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Speaker 6: You never know with this administration.

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Speaker 3: In particular, it was it Comcast in the bidding too.

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Speaker 3: Comcasts just kind of totally fell out of there, didn't

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Speaker 3: they It was their budget? Yeah, no kidding.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's the other thing too, is that Netflix is

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Speaker 2: offering a large, largely cash deal. Paramount's pulling a total

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Speaker 2: cash deal, but it's using a number of different funding mechanisms,

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Speaker 2: including foreign investors from other countries.

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Speaker 3: Things like that.

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Speaker 6: Been very volatile, and you know, the question is what

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Speaker 6: does the Trump administration think. You know, they've been kind

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Speaker 6: of vocal so far and saying that the Netflix deal

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Speaker 6: wouldn't be good, But I'm not sure they think the

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Speaker 6: Paramount deal would be good either. But of course, both

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Speaker 6: sides have been lobbying the Trump administration. Trump is close

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Speaker 6: with the Ellison family, which owns Paramount, sky Dance, but

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Speaker 6: ted Sarandos, the head of Netflix, just had a great

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Speaker 6: meeting with the White House the other day. So it

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Speaker 6: also comes down to a question of who lobbies this administration.

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Speaker 3: Boy, we have already seen so many job cuts.

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Speaker 2: Paramount merged with Skydance and immediately cut a ton of jobs,

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Speaker 2: and analysts predict that Paramount is still going to cut

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Speaker 2: a total of six thousand jobs.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 2: And the same thing happened when Disney bought the Fox,

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Speaker 2: the studio property stuff, right, I mean, Disney started trimming

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Speaker 2: the fat, so to speak. There's nothing nothing better than

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Speaker 2: your company merging and you're being told you're the fat.

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Speaker 3: Oh good, I was the problem the whole time. Who knew?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So we have already seen the mergers begin Disney

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Speaker 2: Fox and then Disney with their ABC properties as well,

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Speaker 2: and that happened, of course years ago. And when it

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Speaker 2: comes to streaming at Disney, Hulu and ESPN are all

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Speaker 2: on the streaming platforms together. But yeah, they you know,

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Speaker 2: Disney bought the the.

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Speaker 3: The Marvel properties, the Fox properties, all those things.

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Speaker 2: And you know Amazon's been been acquiring different properties here

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Speaker 2: and there, and the consolidation is going to continue to happen.

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Speaker 2: The question is how long will the market stand for it,

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Speaker 2: because inevitably you're going to see concis, you're gonna see mergers,

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Speaker 2: you're gonna see the consolidation, you're going to see conveniences.

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Speaker 2: So let's suppose that Netflix buys Hbo.

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Speaker 3: Eventually you'll have the HBO products end up on the

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Speaker 3: Netflix platform. Right, So if you've got Netflix Boom, you're

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Speaker 2: They're gonna say, look, you're can have access to the

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Speaker 2: HBO library as well. You're paying eighteen bucks in now,

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Speaker 2: eighteen bucks a month. Now we'll give you all the

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Speaker 2: HBO stuff too. It'll be twenty bucks a month. And

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Speaker 2: you're like, wow, that's really that's a great deal. And

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Speaker 2: you go two bucks more than I get all the

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Speaker 2: HBO stuff. I mean, in the past, I was paying

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Speaker 2: eighteen for HBO and eighteen for Netflix. This is a

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Speaker 2: good deal. Those deals will not last long. So at

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Speaker 2: first it's gonna seem like a good deal, and then

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Speaker 3: Then they're gonna go.

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Speaker 2: Oh, we realized twenty dollars wasn't another twenty four but look,

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Speaker 2: you're still saving so much money over what you used

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Speaker 2: to have to pay, and you're going, oh, I guess

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Speaker 2: twenty four is still pretty good, and then it's gonna

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Speaker 3: Then you're going, oh, thirty dollars is still better, and

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Speaker 3: then it's gonna be forty dollars, and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 3: you've already heard people grumbling that we're already back to

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Speaker 3: what we were when we had cable.

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Speaker 2: We all complained about cable. Cable was so expensive. If

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Speaker 2: you wanted anything that cable was just outrageously expensive. And

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Speaker 2: so we started cutting the cord because we wanted to

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Speaker 2: save money. And we had to decide, are we gonna

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Speaker 2: cut the linear product? Are we gonna cut the live

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Speaker 2: TV channels and then get the streaming product? And now

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Speaker 2: we're at the point where I think it's something like

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Speaker 2: seventy percent of people, Yeah, they do.

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Speaker 3: But get this.

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Speaker 2: Now we're at the point where seventy four percent of

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Speaker 2: consumers have canceled a streaming service in the past year

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Speaker 2: because of the rising prices, or they switch to a cheaper,

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Speaker 2: ad supported option. Three quarters have said it's already too expensive,

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Speaker 2: I have to cut it. And now we're at a

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Speaker 2: point where they're doing what they call churning. Are you

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Speaker 2: familiar with this? I guess I did this in the past,

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Speaker 2: and I didn't even realize I was doing it. It's

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna use this and I've watched the stuff on

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Speaker 2: the platform. I'm gonna drop this platform, and now I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna go pick this one up for me. I started

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Speaker 2: with Netflix. And when I got Netflix, and I've gotten

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Speaker 2: through it, and I'm paying a lot, and you know what,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna bail on Netflix. I'm gonna see what Hulu has,

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Speaker 2: so I did. I got Hulu and then I dropped Netflix,

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Speaker 2: and I get going through Hulu and I will how

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Speaker 2: much of this? And maybe I don't need Hulu anymore.

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Speaker 2: And I got Apple TV and I like Apple TV

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Speaker 3: I got that. Well, you know, I've watched the stuff.

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Speaker 3: They're not coming out with new stuff. Maybe I'll drop

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Speaker 2: The new season of ted Lasso comes out, then maybe

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Speaker 2: I'll pick it up again. But in the meantime i'll

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Speaker 2: drop that. Oh maybe I'll take the money I was

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Speaker 2: spending an Apple and I'll pick up Paramount. Then I'll

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Speaker 2: then when I'm not watching it so much more, I'll

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Speaker 2: drop Paramount and I'll and I'll pick up Peacock. Right,

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Speaker 2: So people are churning, and then they're just basically watching

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Speaker 3: That's how they're saving money right now. And I don't

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Speaker 2: It's another one of the reasons that these streamers have

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Speaker 2: about their product too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, think about the parties that we've all heard about

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Speaker 3: in Hollywood too.

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Speaker 2: They get they get crazy, right, Some of these parties

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Speaker 2: end up with videos, videos of somebody collapsing in a bathroom.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes you end up with somebody at a party and

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Speaker 2: you find out that, oh, they're on their way to

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Speaker 2: prison for what, blowing through millions of dollars they never had.

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Speaker 3: I've got stars behaving badly.

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Speaker 1: Next, you're listening to KFI A six forty on demand.

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Speaker 2: We were asking to talk about question, what was that

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Speaker 2: goofy thing you believe when you were a little kid,

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Speaker 2: we all did. We all believed just goofy things. And

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Speaker 2: we look back at we like, man, this goofy little kid.

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Speaker 2: Truth is we were all goofy little kids.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Chris, goofy thing I believed as a kid. Well,

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Speaker 4: when I was three years old, my parents took me

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Speaker 4: to see some family up in Seattle. And then when

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Speaker 4: we got back from the trip, my parents when I

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Speaker 4: started crying hysterically because I said, I never saw Addel.

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Speaker 4: I thought Adel was a real person.

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Speaker 2: That's pretty funny. That's a super cute story, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: From You're from Washington. Did you ever when you were

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Speaker 2: a little kid, did you ever think that.

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Speaker 7: You were gonna go see Attle? I lived in Seattle

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Speaker 7: twenty years and I have never heard that joke. I

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Speaker 7: had never heard that before.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was funny.

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Speaker 2: My Uh, that reminds me of My grandparents were from Maine,

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Speaker 10: Really, I think mine's the best. Twelve years old mood

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Speaker 2: who doesn't want a little piece of Elon Musk's space.

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Speaker 8: SpaceX is pursuing an initial public offering next year, That's

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Speaker 8: what a source told Reuters on Tuesday. They said Elon

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Speaker 8: Musk's firm wants to raise more than twenty five billion

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Speaker 8: dollars with evaluation of more than one trillion dollars.

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Speaker 3: Whoa wow, valuation near one point five trillion Woo.

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Speaker 8: The source further added SpaceX has begun to talk with

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Speaker 8: banks about the public listing, which could be around June

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Speaker 8: or July. Musk said five years ago SpaceX plan to

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Speaker 8: list Starling in the future, but only once it's revenue

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Speaker 8: growth became what he called smooth and predictable. SpaceX didn't

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Speaker 8: immediately respond to my request for comment. Bloomberg reported SpaceX

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Speaker 8: expects to use funds from the listing to develop space

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Speaker 8: based data centers. That includes buying the chips needed to

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Speaker 8: run them. If further reported, the company is expected to

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Speaker 8: make around fifteen billion dollars in revenue this year, without

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Speaker 8: rising to between twenty two billion and twenty four billion

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Speaker 8: next year.

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Speaker 2: Okay, wait a minute, space based data centers. So all

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Speaker 2: that we've been hearing about data centers and all the

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Speaker 2: different arguments people are having about data centers and the

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Speaker 2: power suck that is going to come from data centers

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Speaker 2: and the water that is going to use, especially in

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Speaker 2: the desert southwest communities where they want to put some

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Speaker 2: of these data centers, All of those are different arguments,

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Speaker 2: but we're saying now we're just going to we're going

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Speaker 2: to put them in space. What does Let me just

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Speaker 2: process that. I don't know that. I hate it. It's

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Speaker 2: just different. It takes me a minute to just think

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Speaker 2: this through. First of all, how are you gonna get

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Speaker 2: the power? Are we gonna have power generations in space

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Speaker 2: as well? We're gonna use solar. Now, cooling to me

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Speaker 2: makes a lot of sense because cooling would basically just

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Speaker 2: do it itself.

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Speaker 3: So I'm done with that. You wouldn't you wouldn't really

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Speaker 3: have to worry about water for cooling, or if you did,

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Speaker 3: you could probably have very high efficiency in reusing the

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Speaker 3: water for any sort of cooling that you would have

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Speaker 3: to do with the data centers. But what does that

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Speaker 3: do then when it comes to the infrastructure for transmitting

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Speaker 3: the data? Wouldn't that mean that all.

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Speaker 2: Data transfers would then effectively have to go through starlink?

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Speaker 2: You would have to go to some sort of a

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Speaker 2: satellite connection. Right, So Elon musk Is, I can't tell

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Speaker 2: if this is genius or if it's evil genius. He's

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Speaker 2: basically saying, look, the best place to put a data

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Speaker 2: center is in space. The best way to access that

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Speaker 2: is through my net work, which I've already put into space.

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Speaker 2: The entire world will be dependent on me for all

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Speaker 2: of the transmission of all of their information. Ooh, that

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Speaker 2: part worries me. That feels very much galactic monopoly. Like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: that part worries me that I don't Yeah, that worries

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Speaker 2: me because we already saw what happened when Elon Musk

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Speaker 2: said that he was going to offer starlink to, for instance,

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Speaker 2: Ukraine when it was popular to be pro Ukraine in

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Speaker 2: the battle against Russia.

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Speaker 3: Now that's completely flipped on its head.

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Speaker 2: And so then he was saying, oh, no, we're gonna

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Speaker 2: We're gonna send you a bill. Right, So then he

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Speaker 2: sends a bill to Ukraine, and today you owe me

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Speaker 2: for all that star linking that I did.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that felt slimy.

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Speaker 2: So what happens when all of a sudden we become

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Speaker 2: dependent And maybe it's not Elon Musk, maybe it's somebody else,

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Speaker 2: maybe one of his like forty one kids, who takes

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Speaker 2: over the business.

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Speaker 3: What happens when they say, good.

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Speaker 2: Now that we control all of the data, Now we

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Speaker 2: are going to raise the price to a point where

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Speaker 2: countries are going to roughly be held hostage. No, I'm

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Speaker 2: not saying it's going to happen. I'm just saying that

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Speaker 2: the potential is there, and I don't like the risk.

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Speaker 2: I don't think the risk is worth the reward. That

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Speaker 2: worries me. Now, if you could take it out of

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Speaker 2: his hands. How do we feel about data centers in space? Well,

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Speaker 2: we did a story earlier this week on the radical

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Speaker 2: amounts of space junk that's floating above our heads. One

514
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Speaker 2: hundred trillion tons of space junk. Now, a lot of

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Speaker 2: that has to do with it's not just man made junk.

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Speaker 2: Some of that's just a dust and particulate that's traveling

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Speaker 2: through space itself. But I still don't know how crazy

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Speaker 2: I am about the whole idea of putting, of making

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Speaker 2: our reliance, which, let's be honest, we're all reliant in

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Speaker 2: a place that feels very, very vulnerable.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, initial initial reaction here is.

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Speaker 2: A little bit of concern. What about the idea of

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Speaker 2: starlink or excuse me, SpaceX. They worth one and a

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Speaker 2: half trillion dollars to start with, though, Holy cow, And

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Speaker 2: now the idea is Starlink's rapid expansion into mobile service

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Speaker 2: and international markets, which means instead of Verizon AT and

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Speaker 2: T and T Mobile, now you could end up with

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Speaker 2: Starlink as one of your possible providers. A full disclosure.

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Speaker 2: I had Starlink early on. This is back before I

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Speaker 2: have told the story before. My wife and I were

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Speaker 2: trying to save money, and so we sold our house

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Speaker 2: and we moved into an RV. My parents have a

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Speaker 2: few acres and we built an rvpad on their property

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00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 2: so we didn't have to pay any rent. They were

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Speaker 2: kind enough to allow us to do that, and so

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Speaker 2: we lived in a fifth wheel trailer on my parents

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Speaker 2: At my parents' place, trouble is, because they're so remote,

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Speaker 2: internet there was really sketched. We had what they call

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Speaker 2: fixed wireless max speed thirty megasecond, and as you might imagine,

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Speaker 2: it's kind of tough to do a radio show. For

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Speaker 2: Pete's sake, I got one gig at my place right now,

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Speaker 2: and I'm having trouble tonight with the with maintaining. Imagine

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Speaker 2: if we were at the mercy of the wind blowing

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Speaker 2: too strong and all of a sudden, my wireless connection

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Speaker 2: goes down. So I thought, you know what this this

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Speaker 2: Starlink seems like a great solution. So I was one

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Speaker 2: of the I got on the waiting lists, and I

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Speaker 2: was one of the early dobters and it showed up.

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Speaker 3: But the trouble is our our.

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Speaker 2: Fifth wheel was in the woods, and the canopy was

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Speaker 2: of the trees, which is one of the great things

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Speaker 2: about being there was too much for starlink. I could

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Speaker 2: never get a decent signal, so I hadn't ended up

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Speaker 2: having to send it back. My understanding is that's getting better.

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Speaker 2: But just wondering if you've got a satellite based mobile service,

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Speaker 2: what happens if you're downtown and the buildings are too

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Speaker 2: tall and the service isn't getting to your phone?

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Speaker 3: Can you hear me?

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Speaker 4: Now? No?

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Speaker 2: No, no, And that's a problem. That's an issue, all right, gang,

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Speaker 2: Thank you for bearing with me there at the end.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that, and I will flog whomever is in

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Speaker 2: charge of my internet. Perhaps it is just a group

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Speaker 2: of small monkeys inside my modem that are connecting the

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Speaker 2: wires and playing operator. I don't know for sure. At yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's what I'm gonna do anyway. Foosh, dude, it's getting

567
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,479
Speaker 2: to the point where seeing you here every day is

568
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 2: it's feeling very normal again. And I can't tell you

569
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Speaker 2: how long we've all waited for the feeling of Foush

570
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Speaker 2: is back and it feels normal, like normalcy.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I know what I'm looking forward to being

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Speaker 7: able to take him for granted again.

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Speaker 3: Isn't that the nicest part about Fush.

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Speaker 2: It's the best part, right, It's really easy to overlook

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00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 2: it really is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And then Ali behind the scenes as well.

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Speaker 2: Ali, your input, your thought, your creativity is always appreciated.

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00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 2: You make the show better every time that you're in here.

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Speaker 2: And Nikky you're here too.

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Speaker 3: That's good. Thanks.

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Speaker 2: Actually your insight tonight too. Yeah, go back to Ali.

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Speaker 2: Your insight tonight was actually very helpful. And I loved

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Speaker 2: your story about about what you thought soap was going

584
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 2: to kill you when you were little. I thought that

585
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 2: was that was wonderful and super cute.

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Speaker 3: It's ironic because now I'm just a dirty girl. So yep, yep,

587
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 3: so yep, we almost we almost did it. And Mark,

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Speaker 3: I always feel like, if this ship is sinking, you're

589
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Speaker 3: gonna go down with me. So uh.

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Speaker 2: I always love having a partner in crime or at

591
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Speaker 2: least uh, at least somebody that is somebody that is

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Speaker 2: going to take the heat and sit in the office

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Speaker 2: with me when the boss is yelling.

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Speaker 7: It is kind of a little radio suicide murder suicide pack,

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Speaker 7: isn't it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right back tomorrow night.

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Speaker 2: I have a great evening, Chris Merrill can if I

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Speaker 2: am six forty live everywhere in the iHeart radio app