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Speaker 2: Okay, here's the other side, doctor Grace, putting liberals in

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Speaker 2: their place. Doctor Grace Vuoto, my wonderful wife married up.

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Speaker 2: She voted for Trump three times, no question. She's a

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Speaker 2: Magas supporter kind of, but she's one of those people

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Speaker 2: that will relate to the Republicans in Miami. She's not

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Speaker 2: happy with the state of the economy, she's not happy

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Speaker 2: with the cost of living. She doesn't believe Trump has

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Speaker 2: followed through on some of his key promises, and that

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Speaker 2: he's too distracted by events abroad. Grace, I never want

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Speaker 2: to speak for you, but that I sum up your

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Speaker 2: position accurately.

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Speaker 3: Beginning of the position. Thank you, Jeff. I really appreciate

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Speaker 3: being on your show. And listen, let me just give

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Speaker 3: some clarity to everybody that's asking themselves what has happened

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Speaker 3: to Donald Trump in the second term. It's two big

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Speaker 3: things that are very different from the first term. When

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Speaker 3: I voted for him in twenty twenty four, I just

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Speaker 3: wanted another Trump one point, oh, just press repeat. But

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Speaker 3: I didn't get that, And why did we not get that.

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Speaker 3: It was two big things happened. The first thing is

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Speaker 3: is that in the first election, Trump only had about

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Speaker 3: twenty four percent of campaign funds from big donors. But

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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty four, seventy percent of large campaign contributions

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Speaker 3: came from big donors. And that explains a lot of

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Speaker 3: what is different in the second term. And the second

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Speaker 3: thing that changed big time. I never voted for him

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Speaker 3: to go so big, so grand on the tariffs, Jeff,

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Speaker 3: the most damaging policy mistake that he made in the

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Speaker 3: second term was that it was the timing and the

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Speaker 3: scope of the tariffs. I said it then because I'm

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Speaker 3: in business. I saw the phones dry up immediately. And

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Speaker 3: still the trade deals are all over the place. We

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Speaker 3: were promised ninety deals in ninety days. That never happened.

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Speaker 3: We have fifteen trade deals. Many of them are just frameworks,

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Speaker 3: and it's the tariffs are shifting every day. Business can't

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Speaker 3: move like this. So it's not that he hasn't focused

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Speaker 3: on the economy. The policies are erroneous. He needs a

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Speaker 3: course correction on the tariff policy immediately immediately. What he

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Speaker 3: did in the first term was a mild, modest tariff regime.

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Speaker 3: This was massive and as I said then, I said,

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Speaker 3: we're not ready for it. And I've been proven right

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Speaker 3: because many of us have lost one full year of

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Speaker 3: productivity now, and if you replicate that over millions, it

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Speaker 3: is the reason that the economy isn't moving.

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Speaker 2: Grace, I just want to go back. You know, you

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Speaker 2: and I disagree on the tariffs. I don't want to

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Speaker 2: rehash that, but I respect your position, and again you

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Speaker 2: always express it very articulately, no question, But I want

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Speaker 2: to go back to your first point. That's a very

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Speaker 2: interesting point. Are you essentially saying, again I don't want

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Speaker 2: to put words in your mouth, but that he's become

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Speaker 2: beholden to big donors in a way in his second

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Speaker 2: term that he wasn't in the first term.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and I think that's why many of us look.

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Speaker 3: If you go back and you listen to him how

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Speaker 3: he was speaking in twenty twenty four and you listen

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Speaker 3: to him now, it's almost like two different people. Sometimes

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Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't recognize this person. And remember Marjorie

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Speaker 3: Taylor Green when she stepped away, she said something that

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Speaker 3: really just hit me in the She said, it almost

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Speaker 3: doesn't matter who we vote for the results are the same,

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Speaker 3: and I was asking myself, well, why is that, Because, Jeff,

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Speaker 3: the truth of the matter is, it's not just that

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Speaker 3: we're facing a UNI party anymore, because MAGA now took

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Speaker 3: control of the Republican Party. And yet even with MAGA

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Speaker 3: dominating everything, many of us feel that the middle class

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Speaker 3: doesn't get ahead. It's because we have an oligarchy. Now,

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Speaker 3: this is the problem. Our democracy has descended into an oligarchy.

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Speaker 3: And the fact that there was so much campaign money

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Speaker 3: coming from the donors, it has changed the scope of

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Speaker 3: his second term dramatically. And basically, look what he did.

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Speaker 3: We've got to look at his actions. He called Montre

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Speaker 3: Taylor Green a trader for what for asking that fourteen

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Speaker 3: year old girls not be raped by billionaires? And he

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Speaker 3: called her a trader for that's That's not the Trump

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Speaker 3: of twenty twenty four. That's not the Trump that I

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Speaker 3: voted for. So he's holden to this big money that

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Speaker 3: he's protecting now with the Epstein file. So we see

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Speaker 3: that very clearly. And all of you who think there's

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Speaker 3: gonna be arrest there's not going to be big arrests

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Speaker 3: because the deep state is in bed with the pedophile ring.

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Speaker 3: So he's blocked. Now, this is the big difference, and

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Speaker 3: anybody who speaks out against it is branded a trader.

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Speaker 2: Are you kidding me, Grace when you say big donors.

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Speaker 2: I have to push you on this or press you

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Speaker 2: on this, because you're right. This is something that I

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Speaker 2: don't know if I agree with you, but I'm saying

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Speaker 2: you're right in the sense of the criticism that's coming

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Speaker 2: now from Marjorie Taylor Green and from Tucker Carlson and

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Speaker 2: from Steve Bannon. These are some of his most loyal

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Speaker 2: or at least they were some of his most loyal supporters,

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Speaker 2: the heart of the MAGA base, and they're saying that

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Speaker 2: he's caved on Israel, that he's getting Now, you know me,

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Speaker 2: I'm very pro Israel. I backed Trump all the way.

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Speaker 2: I backed the bombing of Iran and four doh and

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Speaker 2: the nuclear facility. I support Israel in the struggle with

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Speaker 2: the Palestinians. But that's me, okay. Tucker Carlson is against.

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Speaker 2: Marjorie Taylor Green was dead set against Bannon was against

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Speaker 2: They're saying that he's got too many Let's be frank,

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Speaker 2: this is what they say, powerful Jewish or pro Israel

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Speaker 2: donors who have given him a lot of money and

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Speaker 2: that he delivered for them on the Israel issue and

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Speaker 2: on the Iran issue. But they're saying that distracted him

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Speaker 2: from his America First agenda.

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Speaker 3: Do you agree, Jeff No, I hate this focus on

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Speaker 3: Israel so much, you know, I think this is just

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Speaker 3: so bizarre. It just strikes me as odd. When I

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Speaker 3: say big donors I'm talking about he's beholding to big tech,

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Speaker 3: big pharma, big business and not focusing on the middle class,

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Speaker 3: to the point that if you ask him how good

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Speaker 3: the economy is, he said, it's a plus plus plus

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Speaker 3: plus plus. Are you kidding me? I just you know.

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Speaker 3: I went through a Starbucks and I say, oh, hi

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Speaker 3: to this young woman, how you doing. I'm working six

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Speaker 3: days a week. Okay, she's got tears in her eyes,

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Speaker 3: but I'm living with my mother's the mother of my boyfriend,

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Speaker 3: because we can't afford a place. Obviously, she can't stand

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Speaker 3: the mother because she's our tears in her eyes, right,

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Speaker 3: But this is a young person who is stuck, stuck.

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Speaker 3: And I see this all the time, and Trump is

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Speaker 3: telling me that the economy is a plus plus plus

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Speaker 3: because big tech is happy, big farm is happy, big

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Speaker 3: business is happy. And he's meeting these donors all the time,

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Speaker 3: so much so that if he said I want a

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Speaker 3: big ballroom, they give him four hundred million dollars.

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Speaker 2: Shazi, doctor Grace, tell me how you really feel. Okay, well,

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Speaker 2: obviously I disagree with you. I don't think it's nowhere

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Speaker 2: near as die as you and your Starbucks friend, the

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Speaker 2: one who gives you your coffee make it out to be.

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Speaker 2: But listen, I same place, same time. We love to

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Speaker 2: hear from you, doctor Grace. You agree with her, disagree

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Speaker 2: with her. Your calls next.

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