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Speaker 2: Loved Wobble Lavelle Neil the third is going to join

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Speaker 2: us now to chat Minnesota Vikings and his favorite team,

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Speaker 2: ballyhooed at Level Neil at Lavell Neil and beloved Lavell

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Speaker 2: joins us now for some beating the Bears. But do

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Speaker 2: you think your Bears at six and three? I'll go

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Speaker 2: to your bears at six and three in good morning.

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Speaker 3: Good morning? Uh what's my answer? Sixth No, just kidding, I.

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Speaker 2: Don't understand the bit. I just like that you did it.

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Speaker 3: It's becoming a thing. My sister is teaching first graders,

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Speaker 1: What does what does it mean?

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Speaker 3: It means nothing, absolutely nothing. It's nonsensical reaction to whatever

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Speaker 1: So what do you think of your Bears?

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Speaker 3: I wish well at sixty three. I think they've beaten

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Speaker 3: the teams they should have beaten. They hot teams at

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Speaker 3: kam definitely has warts with the injuries and the secondary

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Speaker 1: They've been run on.

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Speaker 3: right times. The dollar flits this the Gardner Johnson bits working.

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Speaker 3: He's gotten him involved and putting him on the line

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Speaker 3: I've been happy to see from him this year, but overall,

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Speaker 3: at six and three, it's great. A lot of teams

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Speaker 2: And in discussing the squad your squad with beloved double

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to say she made the CJ.

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Speaker 3: Because I can That's why any day the Green Bay

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Speaker 3: Aren't they favored by what three and a half.

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Speaker 3: This is a must win game from Minnesota, mine mine.

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Speaker 3: We're back to must win mode here because the Vikers

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Speaker 1: Heay, safe travels wherever you're going.

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Speaker 2: I hope to see you before Thanksgiving and maybe in

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Speaker 1: Thank you for the time.

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Speaker 3: Likewise, my friend.

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Speaker 2: Labelly Neil the third columnist for the Star Tribune. He

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Speaker 3: You're not.

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Speaker 2: King Chicago, Salleki, welcome back nine to noon fattering the Bears.

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Speaker 2: We're hoping we do that this weekend. The team's four

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Speaker 1: Sorry about that. Our favorite team is four and five.

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Speaker 4: I was just kind of laying it out the just

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Speaker 4: And I was looking at this last night because I mean,

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Speaker 1: It's about Darnold, it's about Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 4: Have you seen what bo Nix is doing? Mile High?

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Speaker 4: Good Luck by the way, Chiefs out of the Bye.

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Speaker 4: That should be fun for Sean Payton's team this weekend.

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Speaker 4: But Drake May leads the NFL odds for MVP, and

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Speaker 4: I realized that while trying to figure out where Daniel

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Speaker 2: You know, he leads I believe the NFL in passing

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Speaker 4: Congratulations to them. Third in MVP odds in the NFL

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Speaker 4: The fifteen total tds. Maybe that's because he was light

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Speaker 4: And it's almost like, was there Lamar fatigue as he

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Speaker 4: He's on pace for about nineteen hundred and fifty yards,

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Speaker 4: I want to see an MVP that is not a QB,

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Speaker 4: we're seeing with Jonathan Taylor. Jonathan Taylor is single handedly

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Speaker 4: And at one point he's driving down the field overseas

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Speaker 4: media space. It's just I'm thinking about oddities. In twenty

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Speaker 2: So when you say third in the MVP voting, that

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Speaker 2: the other two names. And what I'm looking at here

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Speaker 2: is the leaders in yards are Daniel Jones, justin Herbert,

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Speaker 2: Drake May, Stat Mafford, and then Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 1: Those are the top five. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So then from there, all right, how good are their teams? Well,

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Speaker 2: Colts quite, good, Chargers, good Patriots, they're all good.

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Speaker 1: Chiefs middling.

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Speaker 2: Everybody expects them to be good, I mean really good,

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Speaker 2: like the Chiefs are supposed to be. If they lose

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Speaker 2: this week into Denver, they're in a lot of trouble,

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Speaker 2: a lot of trouble. That's just the end of the story.

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Speaker 2: What about Sam the man and the fan. I mean,

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Speaker 2: if the Chickens keep and he keeps playing more than

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Speaker 2: than complimentary football, he'll have a puncher's chance at this award.

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Speaker 2: But See here's the point, at least from my standpoint.

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Speaker 2: Looking at it from afar, I think if if Taylor

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Speaker 2: stays healthy and not not just putting up three like

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Speaker 2: in Berlin, but just being himself, the oddity is this

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Speaker 2: is a year a non quarterback is going to win

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Speaker 2: the m v P. Yeah, you know, because you're you're

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Speaker 2: you're no matter what the Colts finish at uh and

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Speaker 2: and no matter you know where to a certain extent

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Speaker 2: Daniel Jones finishes. I mean, Jones has seven picks, Herbert

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Speaker 2: has eight picks. You know, it's it's you have some

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Speaker 2: some metaphorical flies in this proverbial appointment with these top quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: And he's the key to it.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: The combination of new faces.

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Speaker 2: And people having preconceived notions about Daniel Jones, they just

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Speaker 2: can't get passed, right, So that's good even if it

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Speaker 2: cost him four votes. Well, that elevates a quarterback in

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Speaker 2: elevate Jonathan Taylor. Yeah, so I think I actually think

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Speaker 2: that that if it stays kind of where it is now,

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Speaker 2: that oddity is going to transpire.

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Speaker 1: Now, Today's Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: In the business, we call tomorrow Thursday, which means we

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Speaker 2: have Thursday night football What a humdinger. This will be

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Speaker 2: the Jets of the Patriots. Thanksgiving Night, the Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 2: host the Kansas City Chiefs for Thursday Night football. All right,

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Speaker 2: that's on Thanksgiving. Oddity out on this. Dallas is the

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Speaker 2: first team in the history of the National Football League

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Speaker 2: to have four Thursday games during the season. That includes

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Speaker 2: the season opener versus the Iggles, the Chiefs on Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 2: a primetime bout versus the Detroit Lions, and a Christmas

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Speaker 2: Day meeting with the Commanders.

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Speaker 1: What do we make of that?

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Speaker 2: America's Team still a thing where, even if it's a

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Speaker 2: bad thing, people still watch Dallas, which used to be

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Speaker 2: called America's team. I don't know what to make of that.

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Speaker 1: That is weird, but I think we latch onto brands. No,

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Speaker 1: it's not weird. It's an oddity. It's an oddity America's team.

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Speaker 1: I still glom on to brands. I think we glom

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Speaker 1: onto brands. I love it. Star what's next? And for

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Speaker 1: better or worse?

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Speaker 2: I think they're entertaining. You got two more of their

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Speaker 2: both short. Here's here's my question. What is happening to

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Speaker 2: the home field advantage in the NFLPA So I saw

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Speaker 2: this from Fox over the summer.

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Speaker 1: I grabbed a blip on it.

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Speaker 4: The long accepted perception of the adversity and NFL team

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Speaker 4: faces on the road, crowd, unfamiliar conditions, et cetera, is

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Speaker 4: somewhat nostalgic. In the twenty twenty four regular season, home

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Speaker 4: teams won just fifty three percent of the time, which

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Speaker 4: basically equates to a nine to eight record, a success

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Speaker 4: rate that didn't even get you into the playoffs last year.

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Speaker 4: The middling success continues a recent trend. Twenty twenty four

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Speaker 4: was the fourth time in six years that NFL home

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Speaker 4: teams won fifty three percent of the time or less.

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Speaker 1: Why do I bring that up?

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Speaker 4: In twenty twenty five, road teams have a winning record,

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Speaker 4: and in totality, the NFL league wide average is fifty

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Speaker 4: four percent PA. Do you find it odd that the

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Speaker 4: home field advantage is slowly but surely drifting away.

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Speaker 2: No, Because the way the league is constructed, Unlike Major

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Speaker 2: League Baseball, there is a salary cap here. Unlike the NBA,

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Speaker 2: we don't have the what are they called tiers, thresholds, mems,

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Speaker 2: what are they called the oh, my goodness, the cliffs,

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Speaker 2: the levels, the layers text. We're dancing around Malachi in

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Speaker 2: the math. I mean, I don't you know, all right, yes,

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Speaker 2: I know it's aprons. There we go Apron. Hey, NFL

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Speaker 2: doesn't have that. NHL nobody knows what it has. I'm

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Speaker 2: not sure exactly, So we'll move past that. Yea, And

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Speaker 2: the commissioner wants worldly appeal and he wants powow d.

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Speaker 2: But see, the National Football League is a league like

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Speaker 2: MLB would get there with some deep draft picks. Likewise,

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Speaker 2: for the NHL, rarely happens in the NBA. I mean,

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Speaker 2: somebody walking on from the street, even though everybody watched

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Speaker 2: his all ten in college, and all of a sudden

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Speaker 2: he makes a team and he's really really, really really good.

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Speaker 2: You still get college free agents like like Manungai, the

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Speaker 2: running back for the Bears. Yeah, seventh rounder from Rutgers,

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Speaker 2: Isaiah Pacheco's seventh rounder from Rutgers, the Krosskey merrit Cat

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Speaker 2: or whatever his name is. That's a great example. They

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Speaker 2: but they're offensive line. That that also a fifth, sixth,

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Speaker 2: seventh round picks or college free agent. You can still

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Speaker 2: do that in this league. So the point being, there's

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Speaker 2: so many players, injuries are so prevalent in the NBA.

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Speaker 2: The load management bit that there's one taking place today

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Speaker 2: or yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Where I looked at it this.

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Speaker 2: Early in the season, I'm like, I can't believe what's

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Speaker 2: happening here doesn't even evolve a member of funk Suit It.

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Speaker 2: There are two players who have played like six games

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Speaker 2: in ten days, eleven days, well, neither whomever's playing Miami.

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Speaker 2: I think it's tonight. Oh really yeah? Oh it's Evan

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Speaker 2: Mobley and Donovan Mitchell. Yeah, Evan Mobley and Donovan Mitchell

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Speaker 2: are being kept out of tonight's game against Miami. Rest reasons, restes, Okay,

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Speaker 2: now in November, right, but they're very important, Okay.

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Speaker 1: No doubt.

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Speaker 2: And the game is on the road, so you're not

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Speaker 2: putting an l on the home fans paying all that

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Speaker 2: money for this seats. But I mean, what if I'm

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Speaker 2: Manny in Miami and like I moved from Cayahuga Heights, Ohio. Correct,

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Speaker 2: and Donovan is my dog? Yeah, And I wanted to

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Speaker 2: see Garland but he's not playing yet. At least I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna get to see Oh, he's back, Garlin came back

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Speaker 2: last game.

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Speaker 1: But I want to see Spider, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I want to see Spider, I'll see spiding I want

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Speaker 2: to see Modeley.

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Speaker 1: So the NFL is not that either.

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Speaker 2: And here's the point is because the parody and the

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Speaker 2: lack of a true domination by the best of the best,

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Speaker 2: ever the best, means that you get like Buffalo is

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Speaker 2: going to make the playoffs and win its division and

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Speaker 2: get a home game and just lost to Miami, so

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Speaker 2: that in certain situations, you know, like Oklahoma City, best

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Speaker 2: of the best losing to Portland, Okay, probably won't lose

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Speaker 2: the next three to them, but the season so long

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Speaker 2: and travels, so you get. What I'm saying here is

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Speaker 2: that that that parody bitman in the way the draft

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Speaker 2: and free agency and salary cap, lack of aprons, all

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Speaker 2: that everything's constructed.

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Speaker 1: The commissioner got to going good. Do you think do

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Speaker 1: you think the Bills are absolutely going to win that East?

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Speaker 1: Who else? Is the Patriots? My bad? My bad?

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Speaker 2: Apologies, Bills will make the playoffs. Can't say absolutely are

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Speaker 2: going because the Patriots already beat Buffalo earlier this year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I wasn't trying to.

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Speaker 4: I got to change my face on the Patriots because

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Speaker 4: I think the Bills might be in the way that

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Speaker 4: they're I mean, you can run them.

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Speaker 2: They're giving up about fifty on the ground right now.

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Speaker 2: Now you're piling on because I was laid back to

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Speaker 2: the segment. I got it correct. I gotta change change

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Speaker 2: my face with the Patriots. Now, I accept your apologies.

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Speaker 2: I gotta change my face. I'm just I haven't I

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Speaker 2: didn't take them seriously into the Hey, here's the deal.

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Speaker 2: If you were at those joint practices with me watching

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Speaker 2: parts of what I watched, you, to a man, most

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Speaker 2: people would have been like, this is not a nine

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Speaker 2: and two squad eight and two whatever it is. Even

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Speaker 2: what I saw in the preseason game was not not

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Speaker 2: ready for lifting. If you had watched what I and

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Speaker 2: we saw the second day Thursday, well you would have

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Speaker 2: thought they were going to win five games.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not kidding you. I mean they got dis deroyed.

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Speaker 2: So I gotta change my face on that or just

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Speaker 2: eliminate Buffalo from that conversation. But the parody piece still

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Speaker 2: is in play. How about this one.

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Speaker 1: This isn't as odd de tease go nfl oudities. That

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Speaker 1: is what you called it, right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, The Kansas City Chiefs are nine games into the

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Speaker 2: season and they're the only squad to have not lost

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Speaker 2: a fumble.

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Speaker 1: How about that one? Pretty good one? Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 2: They're the they're the only Well I should have done

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Speaker 2: that after the Thursday Night Football l The Kansas City

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Speaker 2: Chiefs are nine games into the season and they're the

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Speaker 2: only squad who have not lost a fumble. I find

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Speaker 2: that to be an oddit team, that is odd. Let

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Speaker 2: me read through one more.

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Speaker 1: Okay, the the.

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Speaker 2: Denver Broncos are eight and two and tied for the

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Speaker 2: best record in the National Football League. Ask a layman

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Speaker 2: about the Bronx, and the first thing they'll say is, hey,

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Speaker 2: why are the Broncs so good? You're not a layman,

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Speaker 2: but just say it. Quick defense, amazing defense, Thank you,

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Speaker 2: boom cool. That defense leads the NFL and defensive pass

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Speaker 2: interference and off side penalties, and overall has the most

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Speaker 2: penalties of any team in the National Football League at

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Speaker 2: eighty three. The old Anti vikeuts up to his old tricks.

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Speaker 2: Isn't he forcing the officials to make call after call,

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Speaker 2: pushing the envelope without a care in the world. Actually,

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Speaker 2: there's nothing oddity about that, all right?

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Speaker 3: Thank you?

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Speaker 1: Really good times today. Coach is coming in tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: John Hines with the Wild at nine to twenty, Finchy

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Speaker 2: Finchy about ten thirty five, Fantasy Feast with Paul Charchion

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