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They're all the same bucket. 22 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 5: Let's this Minnesota sports. 23 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 2: Let's push. 24 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 3: Let's push a cuarterback that should be in traction. Let's 25 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 3: playhim again because he gives us the best chance to win. 26 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 3: The one guy's got he's got an ankle spraining. The 27 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 3: other guy's got a he's got a torn labrum, a 28 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 3: fractured shoulder socket, and a separated shoulder. 29 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 4: And we're having him go out there getting sacked over 30 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 4: and over and over again. 31 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 3: And we got a coach with the local football team 32 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 3: that says, yeah, we lost forty one to three, but 33 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 3: we still have a really good football team and. 34 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 2: Really good today. 35 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 3: Yes, after the game, I told the guys in locker, 36 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 3: we're still a really good program and a really good 37 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:40,119 Speaker 3: football team. 38 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 2: That was. 39 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 5: That was on national television. You know, expectations of seeing 40 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 5: and we can talk about all this stuff. 41 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 2: We will. 42 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 4: Iowa would have been happy winning three nothing. 43 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 2: They would have I mean that's normal normally. That that 44 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 2: was the. 45 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 5: Eye with football offense for for quite a while, you know. 46 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 5: And they're a good football team. They have a good 47 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 5: offensive line they have, but they're not a Ohio State. 48 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 5: And the golfers put up a better fight against Ohio State. 49 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 5: That was on national television. Just an incomplete embarrassment. I mean, 50 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 5: you're supposed to. We've talked about it before the season, 51 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 5: Say forget about Ohio State, forget about Oregon. You know, 52 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 5: they were not in the same league as those teams 53 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 5: and those programs probably never will be. But this team 54 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 5: has got to find a way of Now they beat Nebraska, 55 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,679 Speaker 5: but you come back out of that nice win here 56 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 5: on that Friday night with the expectations, and granted they 57 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 5: were at eight point underdogs. Ioway was a favorite playing 58 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 5: at home, which you expect a competitive game, and the 59 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 5: fact that they didn't have one competitive drive on offense 60 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 5: or defense really speaks volumes. That was a holding up 61 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 5: a mirror to your program. That's what that game did 62 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 5: on national television. I mean, to lose like that, it's 63 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 5: one thing to you know, put some points up on 64 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 5: the board, make it interesting. I think that, you know, 65 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 5: the CBS certainly expected to be a competitive game, and 66 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 5: if they're could have in a way of just switching 67 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 5: to another game that they had to carry it the 68 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 5: whole thing. Yeah, that was one to walk away from. 69 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 5: I was stunned how one side of that game was. 70 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 5: But I did is what it is. 71 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 4: I was the one thing there was a silver lining there. 72 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 3: I was able to do some fall cleaning from my 73 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 3: art seriously, because I was going to watch the whole game. 74 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 4: I watched Nebraska earlier with deuce. 75 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 3: That was the eleven o'clock and they beat Northwestern, you know, 76 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 3: not a great game, a competitive game, and went down 77 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 3: to the wire. And then they started watching the golfers 78 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 3: and it was so quick. I took the first drive, 79 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 3: drove down the field and scored. Then the golphers did nothing. 80 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 3: Then they kicked a field. Well, then we had an 81 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 3: interception return for a touchdown, a punt return for a touchdown. 82 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 5: It was Darius Taylor was out before you knew it. 83 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 5: I mean, everything that could have gone wrong. That was 84 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 5: not the reason they got throttled. But like I said, 85 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 5: that's where you hold up a mirror to your program 86 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 5: and you have to recover and say, oh okay, we 87 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 5: got to find a way of beating Michigan State. Now 88 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 5: a bad Michigan State team anyway, Yeah, I mean that's uh. 89 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 5: And I think they lost some recruits in the process. 90 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 5: Some guys, Now, was that a coincidence or were the 91 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 5: the committing I saw like three different players that. 92 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 3: Is it three now, because I saw one for surely 93 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 3: following the game. 94 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 2: I don't know. 95 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 5: I mean, you know, like that's an EBB and flow 96 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 5: type of situation. Anyway, Well, especially with Neil money. You know, 97 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 5: one of those guys may have changed the reason, real reason. 98 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 3: He some cool school might have said, we'll give you 99 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 3: a two hundred and fifty thousand dollars to come play 100 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 3: for us. 101 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 4: Okay, I'm in you. 102 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 5: Know I've heard stories like that already. Oh sure schools 103 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 5: he here. Well, we said some of our local basketball 104 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 5: kids like, uh, they kid from Crete recently. You know, 105 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 5: Jiggy traw we played for Michigan State. Why can't I 106 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 5: think of his name? 107 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I can't think of who you're talking about. Yeah, 108 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 2: I know you're talking about that at the end. 109 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, he was there last year. Why can't I 110 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 4: think of his name? Uh? 111 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 2: Still in Michigan State. I remember you're talking. He left. 112 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 3: He he's he's going elsewhere and he's getting paid like 113 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 3: a million dollars or something, or a half million dollars 114 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 3: or something like that to change. 115 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: Trey Holland, Treelman, Trey Holloman, Trey Hollman left. 116 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 4: At NC State. NC State paid them a whole bunch 117 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 4: of money. 118 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 3: And you know he had that in that In that 119 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 3: final NCAA tournament game, he didn't play very well. 120 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 4: He went like, go for eleven but he'd been very 121 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 4: good for him. He's a good player. 122 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 3: All the kid from that we had here from Cottage Grove. 123 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 4: Why can't I think his name? He left? 124 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 3: He's on his third school now he went to. I 125 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 3: think he's with Maryland now, same thing. They offered him 126 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 3: five hundred thousand dollars. So a lot of these guys 127 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 3: are leaving, not because they're on they don't like the 128 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 3: team they're currently playing with. It's just money talks and 129 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 3: they're being offered more money to go to other places. 130 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 2: And so there has to be a break for l Pain. 131 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, there has to be a breaking point at some 132 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 5: point where you know there's going to be an even 133 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 5: evening in the playing field, so to speak. And but 134 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 5: it's it's you know, college sports for the most part, 135 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 5: the major sports are professional now and that's that's what 136 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 5: they've been trying to avoid. But you know, I always think, well, 137 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 5: in education's worth this, and you got a free scholarship 138 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 5: and you get a free, free education, that's worth a 139 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 5: lot of money if, as anybody knows, just paid you know, 140 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 5: paid fees to go to have your kids go to 141 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 5: college a lot of money, especially now more than ever. 142 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 5: And that's that's worth its weight in gold, supposedly, but 143 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 5: not anymore, not for the major sports. 144 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 2: It isn't And I don't know what you know. 145 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 5: I know they're getting flat fees and all the colleges 146 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:22,119 Speaker 5: are getting all this other money. 147 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 2: But man, it's tough. Well rich, get. 148 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 3: Rich, and then you know the the To me, I'm 149 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 3: not a big fan of December sixteenth ball games, but 150 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 3: a lot of teams hang their hats on. 151 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 4: There's like forty Bowl games. I means, eighty team's got 152 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 4: to play. 153 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 3: So one of the things that Fleck likes to talk about, 154 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 3: you know, nine straight ball games for as well. Almost 155 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 3: everybody gets a ball game and all you have to 156 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 3: do is win. See, you can be six and six 157 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 3: to five ondred team and play another six and six. 158 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 5: Or having an academic rating that's good enough to yeah, five, 159 00:06:58,200 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 5: that's exactly right. 160 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 2: And it's like and. 161 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know, maybe really hard core 162 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 3: goal for fans love that extra Bowl game. They travel 163 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 3: and they go and they have fun and they go 164 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 3: to Memphis or some city somewhere and evan drugs. But 165 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 3: I think just the average fan just goes what and 166 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 3: the game's played a month after the regular season ends, 167 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 3: they get like an extra ten, twelve, whatever. 168 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 5: It just does nothing, whatever blueprint. Indiana has done well 169 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 5: the last couple of years. And this is the they 170 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 5: are the outliers from watching as we've watched Big ten 171 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 5: football for many years. When you know mentioning the powerhouse teams, 172 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 5: the blue bloods, the Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State now 173 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 5: being involved with it, in Oregon involved with it, and 174 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 5: you know those are the same school. With Michigan, they're 175 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 5: down compared to what they've been, right, but now it's 176 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 5: a basketball school that has notoriously been really average at 177 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 5: best in football for a long time. They've had some 178 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 5: great players, but not great teams. And all of a 179 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 5: sudden they are competing for a national championship. 180 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 3: When need you get us the mark? But didn't, Yeah, 181 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 3: you're right, didn't. They wasn't Indiana in sixty seven? They 182 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 3: So there's another you know, if you're trying to make 183 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 3: comparisons with teams, and now, like you say, the golfers 184 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 3: have been there, yes, correct, And now Indiana is the 185 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 3: number two ranked team in the country and some people think. 186 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 4: They're the best. 187 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 3: And I think you know, I you know, I I'm 188 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 3: not the biggest college football fan in the world, and 189 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 3: I've talked about it for many years. Part of the 190 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 3: reason why was because we never have a really good 191 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 3: college football team here, so it's hard for me to 192 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 3: just get excited about other teams from you know, I 193 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 3: just can't get that excited about watching Texas play Clemson. 194 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 2: I just don't get it. It's okay once in. 195 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 3: A while, you know, it's it's a it's a it's 196 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 3: a you know now that Deuce went to Nebraska and 197 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 3: Pizza at Ohio State in the Ohio State, I'll watch 198 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 3: them of those games, and I still like I do 199 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 3: like occasionally watching the golfers TV for yeah, team Well 200 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 3: in Indiana against Ohio State. My guess is that they're 201 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 3: on a collision course to play for the Big Ten championship. 202 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 3: That should just be a spectacle. It has all the 203 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 3: makings for we don't know, it couldn't been. 204 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:02,199 Speaker 2: Watched in the playoff, yes, and you know, it's just 205 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 2: two years in a row. 206 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 5: They signed their coach to an extension, and you know, 207 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 5: whatever they're doing with nil money, et cetera, et cetera 208 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,199 Speaker 5: for a team that's never had much success at all. 209 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 5: In football, it's always been, you know, going back to 210 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 5: Bob Knight and what he's done with the Indiana Hoosiers 211 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 5: and the national championships and always being you know, ultra competitive. 212 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 5: In basketball, it's a basketball state, not a football state. 213 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:24,719 Speaker 5: And now all of a sudden, look at them. Now 214 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 5: look at them. 215 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 4: Now, Vikings lose again. 216 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 3: They're now three and four. Packers win their five to 217 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 3: one and one Detroit's five and two. The Vikings are 218 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 3: in desperate straits offensive line not getting any healthier. Wentz 219 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 3: out for the season now with a season and shoulder surgery. 220 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 4: Should be McCarthy. They're playing in Detroit. We'll talk about that. 221 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 3: So the Wolves, they they lose to Denver last night 222 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 3: and out for well. 223 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 4: You don't know for sure. 224 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 3: Originally they said it was going to be two weeks 225 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 3: and it was, well, maybe a week, and now I 226 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 3: don't know if it's day to day. I don't know 227 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 3: what the latest is on that. But well we'll talk 228 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 3: about the Wolves as well. 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Joe wanted to go back out. 249 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 3: I bring it up because Carson Wentz played with a 250 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 3: fractured shoulder socket torn labrahm in a separated shoulder. He 251 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 3: was wearing an apparatus he said he'd never worn before. 252 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 3: He said he'd never played through such pain. But I 253 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 3: thought I could, I could go and help us win 254 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 3: the game. A lot of other people are Is it 255 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 3: just me and some listeners that think this was a 256 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:53,719 Speaker 3: little strange continuing to let this to Wentz play when 257 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 3: he was is No, he was in that. I mean 258 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 3: he's having shoulder season and his shoulder shurger, he had 259 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 3: a torn labor m and that the. 260 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 5: Doctors were aware of. Yeah, obviously for since the London game. No, 261 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 5: not at all. I think there's it's it's it's there's 262 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 5: not an easy answer to it. I mean, in terms 263 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 5: of coach player relationship, the doctor's getting involved with it, 264 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 5: saying you can't, you know, do further damage when you're 265 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 5: out there, et cetera, et cetera. But I had tweeted 266 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 5: kind of the same thing. I said, look at I've 267 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 5: seen boxing matches where guys stop, they've stopped the fight 268 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 5: with a lot less pain and anguish. All you had 269 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 5: to do is look at his face and the beating 270 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 5: he was taking that night. 271 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 2: You know. 272 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:39,959 Speaker 5: My My point is when the time when you koc 273 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 5: this right, I find find his answer is troublesome the 274 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 5: time that because you can say, well, Carson's a tough 275 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 5: guy and wants to play, wants to play, and the 276 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 5: doctors said he can't injure himself any further by going 277 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 5: out there. Boy, he couldn't convince me of that. It's 278 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,199 Speaker 5: like taking a sledgehammer and you know, beating it against 279 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:00,199 Speaker 5: your left shoulder. My point is when that she and 280 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 5: the Chiefs, when the Chargers had that game comfortably in 281 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 5: hand and they're up by three, three scores, and and 282 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 5: at that point it's garbage time. Get him out of there, 283 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 5: put Brozmer in. You don't have to have him try 284 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 5: to come back and win the game. You basically just 285 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,559 Speaker 5: throw five yard outs to your running backs or to 286 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 5: Jefferson or whatever, and just you know, try to stay 287 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 5: out of harm's way. And he's smart enough to be 288 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,319 Speaker 5: able to do that, and skip Wentz out of there. 289 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 5: I mean, it's enough. It's it's like watching a pitcher, 290 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 5: you know, getting shelled and you're going, why don't they 291 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 5: just take him out? Well, no, we're going to leave 292 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:36,839 Speaker 5: him in there, because you know he's got to work 293 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 5: work his way through it. I'm not it's not even 294 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 5: not an apt comparison. But the point is, I just 295 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 5: when I'm watching that game and thinking, just get Max 296 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 5: some reps in there, and you don't have to worry about 297 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 5: him getting hurt. You don't have to worry he's not 298 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 5: throwing fifty yard bombs. The game is completely out of reach. 299 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 5: Just you know, run the offense for a couple of 300 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 5: series and get the game over with and then you 301 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 5: just get Carson out of there. That It's a simple 302 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 5: to me. It was a simple solution, and he took 303 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 5: the other road. He just let until obviously the very end, 304 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 5: very very in to have Carson continue to take that 305 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 5: beating out there. And you know, it's obviously he knew 306 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 5: he was going to have to have surgery. I don't remember, 307 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 5: maybe ten of you do. I was wentz listed on 308 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 5: the injury list before that. They certainly didn't disclose he 309 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 5: had a torn labrum. 310 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: He was yes, he was limited or he was like questionable. Yes, 311 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: I mean it was we knew he was going to start, 312 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: but they didn't really disclose. 313 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 2: What was going on. 314 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 5: Yes, Okay, so well here's and here common we can 315 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 5: go on and on about this. Here's here's the problem 316 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 5: I have with the Vikings right now. More than anything else, 317 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 5: I think it's being I'm saying disguise or not talked 318 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 5: about as much because of the quarterback situation. When the 319 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 5: Vikings actually did score and went to a touchdown pass, 320 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 5: was it to Addison to make a twenty four to ten? 321 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 5: And I'm watching a game like everybody else, and I'm saying, okay, now, now, 322 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 5: now it's time for this defense to step up. They're 323 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 5: still in the game. We've seen it time and time again. 324 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 5: In the end stop, get a stop, get a three 325 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 5: and out. You've got to be going up there. You've 326 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 5: got to be fired up a little bit more. The 327 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 5: Chargers probably will play it pretty close to the vest 328 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 5: because they feel they have the game in control. And 329 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 5: then even though you kind of really don't get what happens, 330 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 5: the Chargers get the ball and go right down the field, 331 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 5: and I went this defense is atrocious. 332 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 2: And that goes. 333 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 5: Back to me to the Atlanta game when obviously Robinson's 334 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 5: a terrific running back, but Atlanta ran the ball out. 335 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 5: The Steelers ran the ball at him. The teams that 336 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 5: are just doing the basic fundamentals of beating this defense 337 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 5: and time and time again, to me is the overriding 338 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 5: story and what the Lions potentially are going to do 339 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 5: on Sunday with that one two punch in the backfield 340 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 5: forgetting what Jared Goff can do through the air. But 341 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 5: I mean, if you're Dan Campbell right now and you're 342 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 5: looking at that tape and you're going, I got Gibbson 343 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 5: Montgomery pack of lunch, We're coming at your time and 344 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 5: time and time again, stop us good luck with that. 345 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 5: That to me is a bigger issue than what's going 346 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 5: on with the quarterback situation, because if the defense was 347 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 5: playing up to his potential or what they thought it 348 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 5: was going to be with hard Grave. 349 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 2: And Allen and and and. 350 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 5: The only guy that he's more of a pastor, he's 351 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 5: not one call him a run stock. He could certainly tackle, 352 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 5: makes a player. 353 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 3: But they're only missing one guy, and it's there isn't 354 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 3: a There isn't a defensive unit in the league right 355 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 3: now that's not missing at least one defensive guy. 356 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 5: This is who they are, and this is who they've 357 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 5: shown us they are time and time again. And it 358 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 5: was you know, they did a good job day. The 359 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 5: Vikings did a good job of holding down Saquon Barkley, 360 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 5: but then their past defense was giving up you know, 361 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 5: the big chunk plays against him. So It's been one 362 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 5: thing or another with this defense pretty much all season long. 363 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 5: And that's the biggest fear going to me going forwards. Well, 364 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 5: Jaj McCarthy's gonna have to, you know, go through the 365 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 5: trials and tribulations of learning on the learning on the 366 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 5: job right now and figuring things out, and people are 367 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 5: going to judge him whatever it might be. I don't 368 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 5: I really don't think it's gonna matter much. I don't 369 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 5: know what's going on in that defensive room. If Brian 370 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 5: Flores has kind of lost touch with what they wanted 371 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 5: to be doing, if they just aren't that good, if 372 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 5: hard Grave and Allen have been busted kind of in 373 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,479 Speaker 5: terms of stopping the run and doing the things they 374 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 5: have to do. 375 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 3: They don't sack the sacks between the two of them, 376 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 3: I thinks. 377 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 5: I mean, they paid how much money they pay for 378 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:34,679 Speaker 5: these guys this offseason and the secondary is not as 379 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 5: good I. 380 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 3: Think with the offensive and defensive lineman. Is this number 381 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 3: right or my way off? I mean total money I 382 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 3: think is like three hundred million dollars. 383 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 5: They spent a ton and that to me and I 384 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 5: go back to the Charger game, that they would have 385 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 5: not that the Fightings would have come back and won. 386 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 5: But that's where the defense has to go. Okay, guys, 387 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 5: the offense did their job. It's up to us now 388 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,199 Speaker 5: to go in there and stop it. So the Chargers 389 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 5: are playing it, like I said, pretty close to the vest, 390 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 5: and they just ran the ball. I don't remember who 391 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 5: they were down to their fourth run, third or fourth 392 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 5: running back that night, Salidani and Tomlinson running through the line, 393 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 5: or Barry Sanders in his prime. They couldn't stop him. 394 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 5: And that's I'm going, Okay, I don't know. I don't 395 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 5: know how you fixed that in practice. I just I 396 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 5: don't think you can, because we've seen a long enough 397 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 5: sample size of what they're not doing defensively, both against 398 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 5: the run and in critical passing situations. Going back to 399 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 5: the DK Metcalf touched on in Dublin where Aaron Rodgers 400 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 5: threw that ball, beautiful ball, and Mettgeff took off and 401 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 5: ran away from the secondary. Anyway, well, and then we 402 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 5: can discuss the quarterback situation. I'm just saying. 403 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 3: That on the other side of the ball, we have 404 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 3: an offense that has not been producing, and much of 405 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 3: that is because the offensive line. Darris saw has been 406 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 3: on a pitch count, and then he didn't play of 407 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 3: much of the game against the chu Argers. 408 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 4: O'Neil didn't play at all. O'Neill again, he was out 409 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 4: for game. He came back. 410 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 3: He played two games ago, he played the entire game 411 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 3: was against Philadelphia, and then he didn't play at all 412 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 3: against the Chargers. 413 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 4: Now McCarthy's back. 414 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 3: He had the bad ankle. He's out for five weeks. 415 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 3: Apparently he should be one hundred percent. But if you'll remember, 416 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 3: during his time away, the coach also talked about well 417 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 3: Connell also talked about trying to just get some of 418 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 3: the fundamentals again, getting his eyes and his feet aligned 419 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 3: in this and the other thing. So that's why a 420 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 3: lot of us have sort of thought maybe this is 421 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 3: more than just injury. He because he did not play. 422 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,439 Speaker 3: He had the great fourth quarter against the Bears in 423 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 3: game number one. The first three quarters were not good. 424 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 3: He wasn't good at all against Atlanta. And I'm wondering 425 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 3: how much is going to change here, especially with an 426 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 3: offensive If again, if O'Neal and Daris aren't in around 427 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,360 Speaker 3: one hundred percent, it could be another long day. 428 00:19:55,560 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 5: Well, yes, I will say this about JJ McCarthy. It's 429 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,679 Speaker 5: it's really difficult in this day and age where we 430 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 5: literally live week to week with especially the quarterback situation 431 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 5: on any given team, and when you got a young 432 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 5: quarterback who missed all of last year, and I just 433 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 5: I'm not falling back on it all the time, but 434 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 5: it is a it is a critical element when you 435 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 5: compare him with the other rookie quarterbacks who played last 436 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 5: year and had their ups and downs. For the most part, 437 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 5: other than Jade Daniels, this is going to be a 438 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,199 Speaker 5: work in progress no matter how you look at it, 439 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,919 Speaker 5: and it's not going to be solved this week or 440 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 5: this season. 441 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 2: Probably if J. J. 442 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 5: McCarthy, well, next year, whatever it might be, doesn't end 443 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 5: up being a very good quarterback, well then and Quis 444 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 5: in particular, maybe the head coach looking in the mirror, 445 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 5: going well, we don't know how to analyze talent and 446 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 5: that's yet to be determined. And that's that's that's the 447 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:53,719 Speaker 5: thing that you just don't know and it's not going 448 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 5: to be answered. 449 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 2: On Sunday, we'll. 450 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 4: Talk some more our vikings. 451 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 3: We talk about the Timberwolves out of the side of 452 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 3: the break. One more segment to go It's ten me 453 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 3: Common and Mark Rosen here on the fan. 454 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: John justin Guard this Sunday at Gray's Food Haul for 455 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,360 Speaker 1: a Purple Watch party. Come catch the Purple and action 456 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: I guess Detroit this Sunday at noon. Enjoy great food 457 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 1: and drinks and enter for your shot to win awesome 458 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: prizes every quarter. Get all the details now, okaypan dot 459 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: com keep a calendar. 460 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 3: A couple thirteen fourteen past, I'm comedy to be Mark 461 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 3: Rose and here as well your TIMBERWLS club. What's the 462 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 3: record now with they two and two? Yes, I think 463 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:11,719 Speaker 3: they're two and two. Season opening victory aunt forty one points. 464 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 3: Since then, Ant has played very little. He has a 465 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 3: hammy strain. I don't I can't tell if he's day 466 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 3: to day. I originally it was he was going to 467 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 3: be out two weeks, which would be about eight games, 468 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 3: because during the next two week. 469 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 4: Period at eight game schedules. 470 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 3: Then I think that changed to maybe a week, and 471 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 3: now I think might even be day to day. 472 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 2: Do you know exactly what they're saying? 473 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 5: I saw, you know, he was wearing his slippers like 474 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 5: you're wearing getting ready to go to bed at the 475 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 5: courtside last night. I know, no idea. It's to me 476 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 5: And I talked to Johnny Athletic yesterday about it. Ding 477 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 5: All summer we heard how Ant was working on his 478 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 5: new things for his game, mid range jumper, fill in 479 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 5: the blanks, whatever, the best shape of his life. His 480 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 5: body fat was down to zero point whatever. Yeah, and 481 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 5: first game he's listed at one point is questionable with backspasms. Okay, 482 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 5: that's and he played and you just mentioned he had 483 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 5: forty one and open in the opening game. And then 484 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 5: he comes back home and he plays three minutes of 485 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 5: the game. The other night, I think I had it 486 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 5: on TV and I was watching, you know, sudden An's gone. 487 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 2: Where did he go? 488 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 5: And you get normally aunt disappears for a little bit 489 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,360 Speaker 5: and he'll inevitably come back and he'll play and play 490 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 5: at a high level. This time he didn't come back. 491 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 5: I'm went what happened? And they didn't show up. There's 492 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,479 Speaker 5: no replay of something where he's going, Oh, he grabbed 493 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 5: his hamstring or did something that looked like he tweaked something. 494 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 5: And I know it's a rhetorical question. I don't understand 495 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 5: how this stuff happens when you have someone who's the 496 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 5: prime of his life in his career, and he does 497 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 5: all he does is workout. And it's not He's not 498 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 5: the only one. But how they end up having that 499 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 5: stuff happens, but you know it does, and so he's 500 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 5: not alone. I mean you mentioned it the other night. 501 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 5: I mean, Indiana had like six players out. This is 502 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 5: the third game of the season and they got so 503 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 5: many guys an injured list already. I mean, Jalen Clark 504 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 5: didn't play last night, and they missed him defensively. I 505 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 5: can tell you that against Denver and Jamal Murray, they 506 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 5: were taking out a lot of frustration I think, and 507 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 5: that they had against the Wolves over the years, qucially 508 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 5: in the third chords very entertaining first half. I enjoyed 509 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 5: watching some of the new guys got a chance. Jade 510 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 5: McDaniels I thought was more aggressive than he certainly has 511 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 5: been in quite a while in the beginning of this season, 512 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 5: but even going back to last year, and played at 513 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 5: a high level. But Denver was just too good with 514 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 5: Murray and the Joker getting a triple double, but ants 515 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 5: out for I don't know. I mean, that's interesting because 516 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 5: the Lakers come to town tomorrow night. No Luka Doncic, 517 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 5: no Lebron, no Anthony Edwards, and that's a nationally televised game, 518 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 5: and that's you know, it's like, oh boy, the people 519 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,679 Speaker 5: who are even neutral basketball fans, there's no reason to 520 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 5: watch that game if you're a neutral basketball fan. And 521 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 5: with all the three biggest names on respective teams, it's 522 00:24:56,080 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 5: just And that's the first week of the season. So yeah, 523 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 5: they got all scored. Wills did forty five twenty nine 524 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 5: third quarter last night, and the defense was not good 525 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 5: and that that's but and Jamal Murray was that good. 526 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 3: So after Game two, de Vincenzo basically said there was 527 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 3: a lack of effort. Can't fix anything else, we have effort. 528 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 3: Head coach said the same thing. This this lack of effort, 529 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 3: I don't know if I don't understand it. 530 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,120 Speaker 4: It it it. 531 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 3: Annoys me, and I don't know. I I guess I'm 532 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 3: the only one because I people like to poke fun 533 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 3: on me on on the brat Shawn Brian Kfean text line, 534 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 3: you know that I I'm. 535 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 4: Too worked up about it. 536 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 3: Get too I'm two into semantics about the effort stuff. 537 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 3: But all I know is when a guys says the 538 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 3: effort's not there. I've always said this, that's the this 539 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 3: team said this over and over again last year, almost 540 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 3: after every loss, it would always be well, the other 541 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 3: team just tried harder, and it is like, that's the 542 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 3: one thing you can control. This effort you can get 543 00:25:58,200 --> 00:25:59,679 Speaker 3: if you give it one hundred percent. But the other 544 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 3: teams better than you. You tip your cap to him 545 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 3: and say, hey, they're just a better club. Because the 546 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,439 Speaker 3: teams are one through thirty two. One team's gonna win 547 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 3: at all. They're going to be the best, and after that. 548 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 5: It's well, I will say this one last night, I 549 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,199 Speaker 5: think the other night was worse. I mean last night, 550 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 5: and I've watched him for play you know plenty. Jamal 551 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 5: Murray can get that hot hand and that he had 552 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 5: a hand in his face and any number of times 553 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 5: and was just drilling him. I mean he was. It 554 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 5: was one of those really clean games where he was 555 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 5: just on fire. I'm not sure what kind of defense 556 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 5: would have stopped him. And Joker was nine for ten 557 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 5: from the field. The bigger issue I have with the 558 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 5: Wolves right now, I don't know how they're going to 559 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 5: figure out their guard situation. Rob Dillingham got the chance 560 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 5: to play with it. He had his nose busted the 561 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 5: other night and he was wearing a clear plastic thing 562 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 5: and they only played twelve minutes last night. He was 563 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 5: two for two from the field. That had a couple 564 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 5: of nice assists, but overall really didn't do a whole 565 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 5: heck of a lot. Steven Senzo, he's not a point guard. 566 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, he can't handle us all. He's not a point guard. 567 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 3: And let me just interasure because I want to see 568 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 3: you I have an answer for that. You know, they 569 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 3: moved up to the eighth spot to get Dylan Ham 570 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 3: and I was assuming he was going to be the 571 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 3: heir apparent to Connolly, right, and that you know, Mike 572 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 3: was going to see fewer and fewer minutes because he's 573 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 3: now thirty eight years old and dylling. Maham's nose wasn't 574 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 3: broken game one, and he did not start. He didn't 575 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 3: even play la a second. Do you know what that's about? 576 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 5: I think I think Finch said it was kind of 577 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 5: the matchup thing more than anything that he had. He 578 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 5: put bones Hyland out there, who played some last night 579 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 5: as well, played sixteen minutes. He was only one for 580 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 5: six from the field, but Conley I mean, he's he 581 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 5: even talked about it to kind of a yo yo 582 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 5: kind of world. 583 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 2: He played. 584 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 5: You know, he had played twenty six minutes last night, 585 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 5: which is too many for him and Dante, and I 586 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 5: was really high on getting him along with Randall, who's 587 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 5: been you know, really obviously. I mean I think Overall 588 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 5: have been with anstnein and been their best player. But 589 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 5: Dante just you know, he's three for ten last night. 590 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,719 Speaker 5: He's got those he has a good looks three point shots. 591 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,439 Speaker 5: He was only three for eight from that range last night. 592 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 5: He has to knock down those shots because that's why 593 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 5: he's in there. He's, as you said, he's not a ballhandler. 594 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 5: He's not a guy that's gonna run the offense for you. 595 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,919 Speaker 5: So I don't know how Finch is going to fix that. 596 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:17,880 Speaker 5: I mean he's gonna guess he's gonna have a combination 597 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 5: of Dillingham and Highland coming off the bench. Conley, you 598 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 5: can't expect to play more than fifteen minutes a night, 599 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 5: I don't think. And you know, he does what Mike 600 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 5: Conley can do at this point of his life and 601 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 5: his career, and he. 602 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 3: Should get more than fifteen, shouldn't Your shirt fifteen minutes. 603 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe twenty May. 604 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 5: He played twenty but you know, I don't know as 605 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 5: to wearing tearror keeps going on. I don't know if 606 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 5: twenty six minutes is ideal for Mike Conley. But you 607 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 5: know that's when you're when you're missing Ant. This team 608 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 5: relies on him so much, and the other guys just start. 609 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 5: Shannon gave you some moments last night. Look at the 610 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 5: rest of the nas reed looked better last night than 611 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 5: he has in the previous games. 612 00:28:58,840 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 2: I know. 613 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 5: You know, he had a lot of personal distress this 614 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 5: last year with his sister murder and all the stuff 615 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 5: that's going on with that, and he's I mean, he's 616 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 5: responded coming back home. Looked really good last night. But 617 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 5: you know, the your guy, the baron Jair, and he 618 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 5: barely he played in garbage time at the end, and uh, 619 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 5: you know, Shannon got a chance to play, so I 620 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 5: got some stuff they got to obviously continue to work 621 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 5: on in the Ant's absence, in particular. 622 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 4: See Draymond him. You see I'm watching the highlightscing about. 623 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 3: Well he he dragged the guy down and got teed 624 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 3: up and he after the way I just saw it quickly, 625 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 3: So I don't know if I saw it. It looked 626 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 3: like when he dried the guy down't he tried to 627 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 3: act like he was going to trying to help him 628 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 3: stay up. So then they called the technical. He was 629 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 3: yelling to the to the guy who got the who 630 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 3: got who? He we mogged basically, so he was telling 631 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 3: me to shut up. Then he missed the free throws 632 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 3: and Draymond's are laughing at him. 633 00:29:59,040 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 2: So interesting. 634 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 5: And I know we haven't talked about it yet because 635 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 5: you were talking about it off air. But I went 636 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 5: to the game last night and I was obviously keeping 637 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 5: tabs of the World Series. Game was game three, and 638 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 5: back and forth, back and forth. I hadn't seen any 639 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:12,479 Speaker 5: of the highlights they had it on. You know, I 640 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 5: saw it briefly. I went, oh the game, the Wolves 641 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 5: game ended, I again, hopefully get home. Now I heard 642 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 5: it's going to go to extra innings. So I drive home, 643 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 5: listened to the game on the radio, and I'm going there, God, 644 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 5: I don't want to o Tan. He's going to be 645 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 5: up and he's he's already been on base. 646 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: You know. 647 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 5: It began bease nine times last night, right, so, and 648 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 5: then they walked him so I got to rush upstairs, 649 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 5: but the TV on I got to catch the end 650 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 5: of this game. Well, I watched basically, and I got 651 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 5: home and the Wolve's game was late. Watch those an 652 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 5: entire game last night in extra innings. We all know, Uh, 653 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 5: you made it through the end. You told me you 654 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 5: fell asleep in the couch or whatever, and you did 655 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 5: your normal thing. 656 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 4: Yeah. I woke up at one o'clock and I checked 657 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 4: the phone. I said, well, I. 658 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 3: Wonder how the Beef's game ended up. I want to 659 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 3: see how the Wolves game ended up, and how the 660 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 3: World Series ended up. And I checked all three and 661 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 3: I checked World Series last, and it said the game 662 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,479 Speaker 3: was still being played. It was in the seventeen. Then 663 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 3: I said no, and I turned it on. I watched 664 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 3: last evening and a half I miss. 665 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 5: I said to myself, you know, you try to convince yourself. 666 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 5: I'm going to stay up for one more inning. 667 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 2: That's it. 668 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 5: Fourteenth and the fifteenth and the sixteenth. I went, both 669 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 5: teams having chances. I said, seventeenth inning, that's it. 670 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 2: I'm out. It's one fifteen in the morning. What that means. 671 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 2: It's like two fifteen in Toronto. 672 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 5: All those people are up and then they get their 673 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 5: hearts crushed last night, but it was only again, it's 674 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 5: game three. 675 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 2: How do you recover from that? Freeman hits the home run. 676 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 5: Both teams had went through every picture they had left 677 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 5: on their staff. Basically, I think Roberts was saying of 678 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 5: the Dodgers, they had they were going to put an 679 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 5: everyday player in. They were trying to figure out who 680 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 5: was going to go in there. It had a little 681 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 5: bit of everything, including Otani who hit the two home runs, 682 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 5: right yep, you know it's on base nine times. They 683 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 5: just I want if they're going to just continue to 684 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 5: until they had they pitchers up. 685 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 3: In the bullpen that were or that were supposed to 686 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 3: start the next game. 687 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 4: I mean, they didn't know what to. 688 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 5: Do about Clayton Kershaw getting in the game. That was 689 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 5: a moment. But I did see that, and that was 690 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 5: very cool because you know, his idol, Sandy Kofax at 691 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 5: eighty nine year old Sandy Kofax. They took a picture 692 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 5: of put it online because he's my hero, and he's 693 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 5: sitting in the stand still looking like a million bucks 694 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 5: at eighty nine and thinking back of us sixty years 695 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 5: ago when Sandy beat the Twins in Game seven in 696 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 5: the afternoon here when he could not throw a curveball. 697 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 5: We were just talking about injuries. Walter Alson wasn't going 698 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 5: to take him out even though he couldn't throw a 699 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 5: curveball because his arm was so bad. Yeah, he had 700 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 5: to throw a rely on his fastball the entire game 701 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 5: and he still shut the Twins out. 702 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 2: Unbelievable. 703 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 4: You had mentioned Otani. 704 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, no player ever had more extra base hits in 705 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 3: a World Series game than Otani did last night. 706 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 4: Two homers, two doubles in the first seven innings. 707 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 2: Amazing. 708 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 3: No player in Major League, in any Major League game 709 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 3: ever reached more reached base more times than Otani did 710 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 3: when he got walked five straight times, following with four 711 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 3: hit barrage. And nobody ever picked up a baseball, and 712 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 3: nobody who ever picked up a baseball accomplished a fraction 713 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 3: of Otani's latest mind bloin feeds at the plate on 714 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 3: a night when they really needed to get to bed 715 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 3: because they had to pitch the next day. 716 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 5: He's starting tonight. I mean, it's just mind boggling. Are 717 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,479 Speaker 5: we watching the great really? Are the greatest player? I mean, 718 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 5: we hate They had that argument to. 719 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 3: Say it's it's a well, it's hard to argue it 720 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 3: just because not It's not as though he's like, he's 721 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 3: a really good offensive player. Oh he's an okay pitcher, 722 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 3: or he he's a really good pitcher and he's an 723 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 3: okay hitter. He's brilliant at both. It's it's it it's 724 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 3: it's hard to find, you know. The only comparison would be, 725 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 3: you know, when Ruth, you know, he was he was 726 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 3: a pitcher and then he But I. 727 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 2: I think he pitched that. 728 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 3: I don't think he well, I think after. I don't 729 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 3: think he pitched and then played in the field and 730 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 3: then pitched and played in the field. I think he 731 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 3: pitched early and then he turned into an everyday player instead. 732 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 5: It's obviously different errors and everything that goes on, but 733 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 5: my goodness, I think Toronto. Toronto needed to find a 734 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,959 Speaker 5: way to win the game last night. Emotionally, it's going 735 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 5: to be really tough to go out there tonight and 736 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 5: face Otani and try to come back from it. They've 737 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 5: done it now and again. Springer, I don't know what 738 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 5: happened he I saw the replay. He tweaked something in 739 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:13,919 Speaker 5: his back. He had to go out of the game, 740 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 5: and he's a he's a catalyst. 741 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 2: As we know. 742 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 5: He hit the big three run homer uh to put 743 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 5: them in the World Series. But without him in the 744 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 5: lineup that Toronto Toronto Blue Jays lose a lot, a 745 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 5: lot of punch with him going. So hopefully you can 746 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 5: come back. 747 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 3: Someone sent a text message that says, common only the 748 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 3: Vikes and the Wolves come on some wild. There's not 749 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 3: much to say about the Wild right now. They're struggling, 750 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 3: said ten to be one, winning their last six or 751 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:43,319 Speaker 3: seven is. 752 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 2: It something like that. 753 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, they started off to and one, but now they've 754 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 1: only won three games in the first ten. 755 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 2: A lot of goals, aren't. 756 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 3: They think they I don't think they problem. I don't 757 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 3: think they won a game in six seven games. 758 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 1: Six seven games. There's only one game, yeah one winning 759 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 1: those six seven games. 760 00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 3: And it's uh yeah, there's there's there's nothing pretty about it. 761 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 2: They're just. 762 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 5: It's some of the time and they're playing teams they 763 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,320 Speaker 5: weren't when they stay at home, they weren't that impressive, 764 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 5: I mean record wise early in the season. So it's 765 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 5: it's definitely a bad early season trend. When you're looking 766 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 5: at the number of goals are giving up with its goaltending, 767 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 5: lack of defense and and et cetera, et cetera. Zucarella 768 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:27,840 Speaker 5: is coming back, right, isn't that soon? 769 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 1: That's at least he was on the ice today. That's 770 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 1: that's encouraging everybody. 771 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 2: They can get. 772 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 1: Was originally scheduled for six to eight weeks and he's 773 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 1: at week five. 774 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, but back on the ice today. Yeah, that's good, and. 775 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,920 Speaker 1: They need him because they're there are top six. Uh 776 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 1: you know with Johansen's had to play in the top six. 777 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 1: I know he scored a couple of goals recently, but 778 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 1: still I don't want him in your top six. You know, 779 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,799 Speaker 1: Tarasenko has been pretty mad so far. They could use 780 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 1: the gorilla and he came right at night with that caprice. 781 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 5: So lovely sports weekend we had, Yeah, it's about as 782 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 5: dreadful as it could get. 783 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 1: Well, the two football teams was, yeah, they were well, 784 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: Balloons won last night. 785 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 2: What else you wanted? They want to playoff game? They did? 786 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 2: I saw that. 787 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 1: I had no idea how the last night that they 788 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 1: played series TWITTER playoffs in soccer, I. 789 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 2: Didn't know that. I know, I didn't either. 790 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 3: What for me, it's like it seems like the Loons 791 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:25,479 Speaker 3: season never ends. 792 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 4: It seems like. 793 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,840 Speaker 3: But they're always playing. There's some tournament, there's some championship, 794 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 3: there's something. Do they ever have time off or do 795 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 3: they play year round? 796 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 4: It seems like they. 797 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 2: Play around starting March on the ground. 798 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 3: So they Yeah, they're involved in some point. It's nice 799 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 3: to Deuce was into it. 800 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 4: He watched it last night. 801 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:49,240 Speaker 3: He's well, he played soccer, so he he's a soccer 802 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 3: play by play guy. 803 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 4: He's based on the voice of Lakeville South Girl Soccer. 804 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 5: Next year we'll be having a lot of soccer talkers. 805 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,839 Speaker 5: World Cup is here, so, I mean, it's saw an 806 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 5: interview with Messi. He's gonna probably play one more time. 807 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 5: The world's best player right now continues to be so, 808 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 5: I mean, it'll be a big deal here in the country, 809 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 5: hosting it a number of sites next year. 810 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:13,320 Speaker 4: Then you're Twins Club. 811 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,839 Speaker 5: I ran into someone from the Twins last night at 812 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 5: the Target Center. I said, you guys ever got to 813 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,840 Speaker 5: name a manager. You're gonna go to spring training and 814 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,360 Speaker 5: have like just a designated person. 815 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,880 Speaker 4: Well, if you remember, a lot of teams will just 816 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 4: have all have an opener. That's true. Maybe We'll just 817 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:33,280 Speaker 4: have a different manager every. 818 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 2: Game, like a rotating captain, like the Wild they to 819 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 2: do in their first year. 820 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 4: Just let the first base coach manage the club with 821 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:40,880 Speaker 4: the lineup. 822 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,840 Speaker 1: I have an idea, Oh good, bring back Sonny Gray. 823 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 1: Have them be a player manager. That player manager. The 824 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,319 Speaker 1: players respected them, they loved them, is what they did, 825 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 1: and he'd be on our staff. 826 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 5: I managine watching that game last night, or any of 827 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 5: these playoff games, and then you look at the Twins 828 00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 5: roster and they end up they're playing the same sport. 829 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 5: I mean it's I mean, we traded away half a roster. 830 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 5: Well that's what I'm our media CA roster. Yeah, I 831 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,719 Speaker 5: got Joe, Ryan and Lopez. 832 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,920 Speaker 1: And that's my favorite is people bragging about the prospect 833 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,319 Speaker 1: rankings for the Twins, like, well, they traded away half 834 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 1: their team this year. 835 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 5: They should be they should have some prospects that they 836 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 5: got to play and play well. Fun times. 837 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:29,319 Speaker 4: He liked this Twins club. There's not much to like. 838 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 5: Uh No, I mean, I can only talk about Walker 839 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 5: Drinkins so much, and you know that's running out of 840 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:39,840 Speaker 5: things to say about that team, about that franchise, About ownership, 841 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,400 Speaker 5: Baseball is gonna have probably an owne up with a 842 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 5: lockout next year. 843 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:47,400 Speaker 2: After next year, who knows. 844 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 3: So on Sunday is there going to be sinker sale 845 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 3: for the I'm not sailing too much, I don't think again. 846 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 5: I all to talk to me about JJ and that's fine. 847 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 5: It's you'll give us a little give the little juice 848 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 5: one thing to talk about, all right, It'll be he's back, 849 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 5: Let's keep him healthy, Let's see how he plays. How 850 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 5: the Vikings are going to stop Gibbs and Montgomery and 851 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 5: what what I mean, especially Gibbs is phenomenal. I I 852 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 5: so love watching a kid play and run. I don't 853 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 5: know how the Vikings are going to possibly stop him. 854 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,799 Speaker 5: I can see the Lions are putting up forty on 855 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,239 Speaker 5: that game. I don't know what Minnesota can possibly do 856 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 5: to slow them down. That's in Detroit. You know, Campbell's 857 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,440 Speaker 5: not going to take any prisoners. He's hell bent on 858 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,120 Speaker 5: doing what he has to do. And he said some 859 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:37,879 Speaker 5: nice things about McCarthy because he had a good fourth 860 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 5: quarter against the Bears. What's he going to say, It's 861 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:41,719 Speaker 5: going back to Michigan. That's about the only thing you 862 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,759 Speaker 5: can say. McCarthy is but. 863 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 4: Not anything can happened, but it yeah, I mean sure 864 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:48,880 Speaker 4: it's not. 865 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 2: It doesn't look. 866 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,239 Speaker 4: Very promising for the Purples Current Sunday. We'll see how 867 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 4: it goes. 868 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:56,239 Speaker 2: Yep, you'll be back to all right, I will. We'll 869 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:57,360 Speaker 2: see him that Wednesday. 870 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 3: And then dews is really excited about spreads. When he's 871 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,719 Speaker 3: so excited, he might have coming in studio. Oh yeah, 872 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 3: that's right. He had the chargers. 873 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,319 Speaker 4: Not only dad, he also had he had two good. 874 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 2: I had one really good one and one really bad one. 875 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, you had one really bad one for sure. 876 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,719 Speaker 2: Sure, I didn't looked at the score. 877 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,000 Speaker 1: You might be in last by the time we get 878 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,760 Speaker 1: to Thursday at Rosie very well. 879 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:21,960 Speaker 2: I don't know. 880 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 5: I had one really good one. It picked up a 881 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,160 Speaker 5: lot of points on I don't remember who that is. 882 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 4: We'll see you tomorrow at too. 883 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 2: I'll be here, Tanny. 884 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:27,759 Speaker 4: Thanks for having me. 885 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:29,239 Speaker 2: He was well. We enjoyed it. 886 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,319 Speaker 4: But we just stick around. Take a j G there 887 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 4: next her on the fan. All right, I got good night, 888 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,239 Speaker 4: good night missus Calabash. 889 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 2: I'm a fraud. Yes. Listen back to any of common 890 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:54,560 Speaker 2: Man's programs by podcasting on the iHeartRadio app or kf 891 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 2: A dot com