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Speaker 2: I sure glad that we've got Mike McDonald joining us

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Speaker 2: on the radio show at three thirty this afternoon, because

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Speaker 2: if not for Mike McDonald, we'd be sitting here probably

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Speaker 2: talking Mariner.

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Speaker 1: Baseball all the day long.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I mean the Kraken stink, The Mariners stink.

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Speaker 2: We got four picks in the draft. The draft stinks.

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Speaker 2: And oh, by the way, guess what you been waiting

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Speaker 2: been waiting to tell you for twenty years, and I

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Speaker 2: finally worked up the courage to my association. Well, I'm

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Speaker 2: just in a salty mood right now because what I

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's a verb for this. We call it

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Speaker 2: By the way, Okay, we all remember twenty ten when

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Speaker 2: It was only three years ago, you, three years ago

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Speaker 2: that we were hoping to see in twenty twenty six, Pal.

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Speaker 1: Well, how about this.

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Speaker 3: The Mariners are dead last in baseball and batting average,

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Well, look, I mean at some point you

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Speaker 2: now they're four to nine. The offense isn't producing, they

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Speaker 2: I don't have any I don't have any affiliation and

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Speaker 1: He's only in year two, for God's sakes.

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Speaker 3: Well, when you consider why a baseball player wouldn't be

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Speaker 2: No, there's no doubt about it. And look, I mean

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Speaker 2: You know, they're all veterans, right, you know, Julio's in

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Speaker 1: But this is also kind of what they do.

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Speaker 2: If you go back and look at the last three

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Speaker 2: ready for Mike McDonald's appearance here with three point thirty

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Speaker 2: Mike Floria will join us tomorrow on the radio show.

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Speaker 2: By the way, coach of the Hawks in twenty minutes

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Speaker 4: R and R Foundation Specialist broadcast Studio. Now back to

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Speaker 4: SOFTI and Dick on your home for the Huskies, Kraken

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Speaker 2: All right, we're back, Softy Jackson, Hugh Millan, Dick is

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Speaker 2: out today, back next Tuesday. For all you Dick fans

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Speaker 2: out there, Hugh Milan's sitting in for the next three

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Speaker 1: We did not care.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna join us at three point thirty. What do

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Speaker 2: It's on T shirts everywhere. My wife's got one. We

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Speaker 1: We did not care. You think he likes that, or

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Speaker 2: You know, Uh, look at me, look at me. Blah

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Speaker 2: Isn't it a little bit fascinating to see two polar

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, this is a topic that's fascinated me for

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Speaker 2: I'm going to be Obi Wan. He's going to be

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Speaker 2: So Mike McDonald, head coach of the Seahawks, haven't had

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Speaker 4: From the R and R Foundation Specialist Broadcast Studio. Now

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Speaker 4: back to Softie and Dick on your Home for the Huskies.

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Speaker 4: Kraken and the twelfth Man Sports Radio ninety three point

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Speaker 5: Seattle se Hawks of one. Super Bowl of sixteen in

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Speaker 1: Do you ever win a Super Bowl?

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Speaker 1: Coach, Good afternoon, how are you.

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Speaker 4: Great, guys?

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Speaker 7: Great to be on with you.

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Speaker 2: We can get that for you if you want that

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Speaker 2: I love that. That's a great idea. Every time the

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Speaker 1: Doors open? Who wants me now? Who wants who wants

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Speaker 2: Well, Mike, let me ask you because it's been a

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Speaker 1: And look, I know you've had things to do.

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Speaker 6: Man, Well, that's it's been. It has been fun to

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Speaker 6: Well, I think the thing that's not anticipated is do

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Speaker 6: rattled off anyone, could have rattled off everyone on our

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00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,200
Speaker 6: team that haven't hasn't won a Super Bowl last year,

437
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Speaker 6: and that could have been a point of criticism, which

438
00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,879
Speaker 6: woud have been completely fair because it was true. But

439
00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,840
Speaker 6: we didn't really spend our time worrying about what we

440
00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,400
Speaker 6: haven't accomplished yet, and we really spent so I think

441
00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,120
Speaker 6: the lesson learned is we spend all of our time

442
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Speaker 6: on like the day to day basis inputs process, how

443
00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:51,840
Speaker 6: we want to be, how we want to operate, you know,

444
00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,040
Speaker 6: the relationships are trying to build and put our time

445
00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:56,920
Speaker 6: and energy there. I think I think you kind of

446
00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,760
Speaker 6: apply that principle to like this process is like you said,

447
00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,560
Speaker 6: it's new team, but how we go about our business

448
00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,560
Speaker 6: of what we're trying to achieve, like day in and

449
00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,320
Speaker 6: day out. I think that mentality stayed the same, and

450
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Speaker 6: then you kind of let the results, you know, to

451
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Speaker 6: clear on the problems that you're gonna have to solve,

452
00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,560
Speaker 6: you know, as the journey kind of unwinds and unfolds

453
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Speaker 6: throughout the season. So that's that's the way we're looking

454
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Speaker 6: at it.

455
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Speaker 3: Mike McDonald with this, and Mike, you said in that

456
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Speaker 3: answer that that there was you know, a number of

457
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Speaker 3: your players you know, hadn't hadn't won a Super Bowl.

458
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Speaker 3: And I think, obviously I'm going to jump right into

459
00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:32,120
Speaker 3: your quarterback and it seems I thought it was absurd

460
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Speaker 3: throughout the season, but there was this narrative, Sam Darnold

461
00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,960
Speaker 3: can't win the big game. It's ignorant to all the

462
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Speaker 3: big games that he had in fact won. But my

463
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Speaker 3: my question is in two parts, you always had his back.

464
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Speaker 3: It was clearly sincere But what what was the game

465
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Speaker 3: or the time in a game where you said, you

466
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Speaker 3: know what, here's that. Here's the extra stamp of certainty

467
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Speaker 3: that I have about Sam Knows as his head coach.

468
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Speaker 3: And then and then maybe just touch on the personal

469
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Speaker 3: side of how gratifying that was for you to see him,

470
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Speaker 3: you know, if there was a monkey, he got it

471
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Speaker 3: off his back. What about the way things ended for

472
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Speaker 3: Sam Darnold last year.

473
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Speaker 6: Well, it's probably the answer you're not anticipating, but I

474
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Speaker 6: think the way he responded in game in the first

475
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Speaker 6: Rams game was I wouldn't say a stamp for me,

476
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Speaker 6: but it was definitely a time where I felt like

477
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Speaker 6: I felt like the team thought like this too, is

478
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,359
Speaker 6: that this guy is a get rattle. I mean, he

479
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,159
Speaker 6: came right back and really put in a position to

480
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Speaker 6: go win that game given all the things that had happened,

481
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Speaker 6: you know, and so what else do you need to see,

482
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 6: you know, as a as a coach, from his performance

483
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 6: up to that point throughout the season, what he did

484
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Speaker 6: at the entire offseason in training camp, and so I

485
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,120
Speaker 6: think I think that was that was a really cool

486
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 6: moment throughout during the season to see his growth as

487
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Speaker 6: as a player. And and then you know, I know,

488
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Speaker 6: I know Sam is such a great job of block

489
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Speaker 6: and stuff out, but you know, we get the questions

490
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 6: as the coach every week, and so we're you know,

491
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 6: we're exposed a lot of the narratives and and and

492
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:10,679
Speaker 6: rightfully so you know, I mean there's a lot of

493
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Speaker 6: great interests the league and everything like that and kind

494
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,680
Speaker 6: of comes with the territory too. So but to see him,

495
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Speaker 6: you know, achieve the goal, you know, it's a you know,

496
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 6: to get to get our team to that point, to

497
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 6: play a great game. Happy, I guess you kind of

498
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 6: separate the person and the player at that point, knowing

499
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Speaker 6: that just don't what type of guy Sam is and

500
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Speaker 6: what he did for us and our team and like

501
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Speaker 6: the person he was and the teammate that he was

502
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Speaker 6: to the rest of the guys on the team. Uh,

503
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Speaker 6: you just you just can't. You're just you're bursting with

504
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 6: pride and enjoyed for him, you know, in that moment.

505
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Speaker 6: So that was that was a really cool time. And

506
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,200
Speaker 6: you know it's funny we we we don't. I mean

507
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 6: Sam and I have talked several times. We haven't talked

508
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,119
Speaker 6: about the Super Bowl. You know, he's had a lot

509
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 6: of stuff going on just got married, and I think

510
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 6: I think both of our focus is just really excited

511
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:04,879
Speaker 6: about kind of getting back in the building and get

512
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 6: ripping again.

513
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

514
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Speaker 2: Well, Mike McDonald's with us on the radio show, and

515
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 2: when you get ripping, you'll get ripping with a brand

516
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 2: new offensive coordinator, right third o c in three years,

517
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 2: going back to Ryan and then Clinton, now Brian Flurry

518
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,160
Speaker 2: and Mike coach. Flurry was on the air with us

519
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 2: when he got hired, and he said something interesting to me,

520
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 2: and I'm kind of paraphrasing here, he said, you know,

521
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Speaker 2: I got to figure out if they're coming to me

522
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 2: or if I'm coming to them, meaning the offense, Right, Like,

523
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 2: am I going to start making changes and expect them

524
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Speaker 2: to kind of get.

525
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Speaker 1: On my wagon? Or do I get on their.

526
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Speaker 2: Wagon and just go with what already clearly worked a

527
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,959
Speaker 2: year ago? Offensively? How much do you want him to

528
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 2: kind of put his stamp on this thing versus just say, hey, look, man,

529
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,479
Speaker 2: we were top five in points last season.

530
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Speaker 1: Let's not you know, reinvent the wheel here. Brian.

531
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Speaker 6: Well, I think the great thing with Brian is I

532
00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 6: think we're well, I actually know we're really we're align

533
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 6: and on how we want to play the game. And uh, schematically,

534
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 6: I think you know, we're we're going to be the

535
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 6: same foundational schematic team and we're running the same system

536
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 6: we ran last year. I think Brian's talking a lot

537
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 6: in terms of like just vocabulary and some of the

538
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 6: nomenclature behind some of the things we're doing. There's there's

539
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 6: some route, you know, there's details here and there, and

540
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 6: I think it's actually good for us. It provides some

541
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 6: stretch from the things we're doing last year and going

542
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 6: through the cutups and some of the install we're doing now. Like,

543
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Speaker 6: I actually think it gives us a great opportunity to

544
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Speaker 6: take another step in our evolution as an offense and

545
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 6: grow even further, you know. And there's been some great

546
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Speaker 6: conversations going and it's this is going to be a

547
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 6: process that we're gonna have again throughout the whole season.

548
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:45,919
Speaker 6: But really as we start to install our system, you know,

549
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 6: reinstall everything from from the ground up with the guys,

550
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:50,679
Speaker 6: I think it's going to help help us out like

551
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,679
Speaker 6: a really better stronger understanding what we were asking on

552
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 6: all the details really all levels of the offerance. So

553
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Speaker 6: I think it's been I think it's been really positive

554
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 6: for us.

555
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Speaker 2: Well, you mentioned Mike taking that next step, and look,

556
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Speaker 2: I mean, in my mind's eye, I've got something that

557
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 2: comes to mind automatically for something I'd love to see

558
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 2: the offense do better.

559
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:09,919
Speaker 1: But I'm not going to say it right now. But

560
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:11,120
Speaker 1: you said take.

561
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Speaker 2: Another step, you won't say, Okay, fine, how about this?

562
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Speaker 2: I want you to be a little more consistent in

563
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 2: the red zone offensively, if I'm picking, I want a

564
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 2: little more consistency in the red zone. So what would

565
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 2: be the next step in your mind that you think

566
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:26,640
Speaker 2: this offense should and can take.

567
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 1: Well, I don't.

568
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 6: I don't think it's the right attitude to say we

569
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 6: need to get from where we ended last year to

570
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 6: another level. For the and for the record, I agree

571
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 6: with you on the red zone. I mean, I think

572
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,719
Speaker 6: probably too hot and cold in some of the like

573
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 6: throughout the season and where we fell short, very very

574
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Speaker 6: probably in a different in different ways that we normally anticipated,

575
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 6: kind of being like maybe it's one one or two things.

576
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Speaker 6: I feel like there's several things. We also do a

577
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 6: lot of great things too, So just trying to kind

578
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 6: of smooth it out on how we handle it. Starts

579
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 6: with on the ball down there. But to answer your question,

580
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 6: I think I think the focus is is again, how

581
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 6: can we how can we really build the foundation right

582
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 6: now to allow us to start to kind of take

583
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 6: those strides after we rebuilt the foundation to take the

584
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 6: next step, if that makes sense, Like, we can't we

585
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 6: can't skip from we can't say, hey, we ended the

586
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 6: season at X or you know Y or you know

587
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 6: X or W Now let's get let's get this thing

588
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 6: to Z. It's now, let's rebuild it the right way

589
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 6: and then and then let our personnel and the strength

590
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 6: of the team and things that Brian sees and things

591
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 6: that are you know, we have a new staff, like

592
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 6: things that our staff wants to do. I think you

593
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 6: just got to let that. You gotta give it some

594
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 6: air to breathe, you know, so it can grow the

595
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 6: right way rather than kind of pigeonholing yourself.

596
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 3: Mike, you mentioned running in the red zone and and

597
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 3: and the guy obviously closing out that season. Uh, the

598
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,880
Speaker 3: Super Bowl, MVP Canine just really came his production really

599
00:27:55,880 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 3: came alive at the end for for fan like me

600
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 3: who look at Canine and and said he's demonstrably the

601
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 3: most talented halfback on the football team.

602
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: Uh.

603
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 3: Now, Andy Reid uh evidently agreed to some degree. Tell

604
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 3: us in your words, why, uh you love Knine but

605
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 3: you were willing to let him walk out the door?

606
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 3: And what that running back position looks like from your perspective?

607
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 6: Well, yeah, I think I think what's great about we

608
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 6: have such a like a long standing relationship with him.

609
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 6: I think that's one of the reasons that makes it

610
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 6: so special with him in the community. And I think

611
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 6: I think we've only been here two years, but the

612
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 6: you know, the our fan base in the twelves have

613
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 6: seen him for you know, the length of his his

614
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 6: rookie deal, I think four years, and seeing the growth

615
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 6: and that many of the guys made a lot of

616
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 6: great plays for us, explosive plays obviously MVP. There's a

617
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 6: lot of accolades that that go behind Ken Walker and

618
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 6: a great guy to boot. So it's it's it's a

619
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 6: it's not easy when great players, you know, leave your team,

620
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 6: and but that's that's the nature of our business too,

621
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 6: and it's our job is as a as a team

622
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 6: and his organization to keep adding great players and creep,

623
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 6: keep adding, keep adding competition and looking for opportunities to

624
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 6: grow the team as well. So that's I think that's

625
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 6: where our mentality is. But I just I think this

626
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 6: is a great opportunity to to give the guys that

627
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 6: are currently on our team right now, and and guys

628
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 6: like Emmanuel Wilson that we added throughout the season.

629
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 7: It's like, Hey, these are really guys that we're we're.

630
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 6: Excited about too and and can be great, great players

631
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 6: for us. And and I think the same thing is

632
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 6: like if you go outside of the running back position

633
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 6: on our team and you go through all the other

634
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 6: positions like safety, you see a guy like Tyakata come

635
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 6: in and make great plays, even guys on the road

636
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 6: like Kobe Bryant switching positions and and taking advantage of opportunities,

637
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 6: you know, thinking great Thomas coming in and making you know,

638
00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 6: just point being his guys taking advantage of opportunities. Cody White,

639
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 6: you know, come in and being prepared and having the

640
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 6: opportunity to take their game to the next level. I

641
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 6: think we have an opportunity there at running back, and

642
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 6: then you know, you know us, we're always gonna we're

643
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 6: always gonna look at ways to keep aug Man the

644
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 6: roster as well.

645
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 1: Mike, how much sports talk radio do you listen to?

646
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 6: Honestly, it's it stays on twenty four to seventy and

647
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 6: a half.

648
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 1: Dave, see, I don't know why that.

649
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 2: We're gonna laugh at that or cry or maybe he's

650
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 2: really serious.

651
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 6: Mike.

652
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:33,959
Speaker 2: The reason why I bring that up is because we

653
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 2: used to have a guy here, and Dave will be

654
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 2: able to confirm this, named Mike Holmgren, who listened to

655
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Speaker 2: sports talk radio every day to the vMac from the

656
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 2: vMac when the old Northwest College facility. He listened a

657
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 2: lot to this radio station, all right, he became friends

658
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 2: with us, he works for us for crying out loud,

659
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 2: But if you did listen to kJ R, you'd hear

660
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 2: a lot of talk about the running back situation.

661
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: People nervous about it, right, what are we gonna do?

662
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 2: Oh my god? So you you just mentioned a couple

663
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 2: of guys there. You got sharbon Day coming back off

664
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 2: the injury. You got a lot of Macintosh, Wilson, uh,

665
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 2: some bit some some names that maybe fans don't yet

666
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 2: know a lot about.

667
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Speaker 1: Is there anybody in that running back room Mike that you.

668
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 2: Just think, you know, you guys haven't seen a lot

669
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 2: of this kid yet, and when you do, you're gonna

670
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 2: be pretty surprised. Is there a guy in your running

671
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 2: back room that you think people are underselling right now?

672
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: Including us?

673
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 6: Well, it sounds like you're underselling all of them, not

674
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 6: all of them, but I would like to see maybe

675
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 6: a little more competition brought in.

676
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 1: But we'll see what happens in the draft.

677
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 6: All right, we'll leave this one right here. I'll go

678
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 6: I'm gonna walk down to John's office.

679
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 7: We got, we got, we got a conversation you have apparently.

680
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 1: Here we go, Here we go. Okay, go ahead, please.

681
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 6: Look, I totally, I totally, I totally I get it,

682
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 6: and it makes you know, I get it. It's just.

683
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 7: But it's you.

684
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 6: Know, it's like it's like our officive line last year.

685
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 6: I mean, people, that was a big talking point that

686
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 6: we had at this point last year. And my answer

687
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 6: then was like, hey, look, we don't play a game.

688
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 6: There's a lot of reps that we had and we

689
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 6: don't play a game for another, I don't know, five months,

690
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 6: you know. So it's it's just I think it's one

691
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 6: of those Hey, let's respect the process here, Let's let's

692
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 6: take advantage of these reps in the time that we

693
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 6: have to cultivate this competition and uh, and see where

694
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 6: we are in September and throughout the season.

695
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 3: We you just mentioned offensive line. That wasn't gonna be

696
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 3: my next question, but since you brought it up. Anthony Bradford,

697
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 3: he look, he's going to have a Super Bowl ring

698
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 3: and and he was a starter on a Super Bowl

699
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 3: champion and and and nobody can take that away from him.

700
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Speaker 3: But you know, as Dave mentioned on sports radio, UH,

701
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Speaker 3: that guy was kind of one of the guys that

702
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 3: I'll confess I was one of the critics what have you?

703
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 3: And you know, I even look at what you did

704
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 3: last year with Gray's Abel, what a remarkable pick that

705
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 3: was and the urgency. What about that offensive line, particularly

706
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 3: the right guard.

707
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Speaker 6: Well, I'm excited to see a d again. I mean,

708
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 6: he's like he had competition at that position at the

709
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 6: beginning of camp and and he wanted Farren square. Uh.

710
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 6: Through the effort and what he did on the football field,

711
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 6: and I think you know, there's a there's a there's

712
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 6: some plays that you go through the entire roster of

713
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 6: where we fell short and maybe maybe don't doesn't look

714
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 6: that great on tape. I mean, if you if you

715
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 6: make a play like that and keep it the secondary,

716
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 6: it's a touchdown. And you know, we had a couple

717
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 6: of those, but those happen. But there's also backed up

718
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 6: by a lot of great plays. And I'm willing to

719
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 6: make the pro Anthony Bradford tape a great plays that

720
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 6: he made for us too to go win a Super Bowl.

721
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 6: And he's a guy that could move people, and he

722
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 6: had plays with a physicality and a play strength, especially

723
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 6: in past protection that.

724
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Speaker 7: Is kind of is.

725
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 6: Tough to replicate, and so he's got a lot of

726
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 6: strength bringing to the table. We've expect the best version

727
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 6: when he comes back and all that because again we

728
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 6: got we got to go back through our process from

729
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,760
Speaker 6: the beginning and and uh and find the best combination

730
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 6: of five guys. But I fully expect A B to

731
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 6: be right there when you know, when it comes down

732
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 6: to making that decision.

733
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Speaker 2: Mike, do you need to see more from Shiheda as

734
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:19,760
Speaker 2: a pass catcher next season?

735
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 6: Well, what I'm what I'm excited about with him is

736
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 6: to have a full off season with really a new

737
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 6: offensive staff and and really with Sam to keep building

738
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 6: that chemistry that they had so and then it's like

739
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 6: very similar to where like where we're gonna go schematically offensively,

740
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 6: it's hey, let's let's build that chemistry, that foundation, that

741
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 6: route detail with like with anything any new language. We

742
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 6: have the things we need to nail right now, so

743
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 6: we can get into the into the game plan type

744
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 6: stuff where we can try to, you know, get him

745
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 6: running through defenses and things like that. But until until

746
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 6: we build the foundation, we're not gonna be able to

747
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 6: really make the offense come life. And that that's on

748
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 6: like a per person basis too. So that's what I'm

749
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 6: excited about for him to have to have this opportunity

750
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 6: in the spring to build the build a chemistry. Not

751
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 6: only was Sam, but really with the rest of the

752
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 6: receiver room.

753
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Speaker 1: Mike McDonald with this.

754
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,479
Speaker 3: As we switched to the defense for a second, Mike

755
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 3: Dave mentioned sports radio when when you got hired, I

756
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,720
Speaker 3: went deep under the hood and I spent the better

757
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 3: part of the night looking at Raven tape after Raven tape,

758
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 3: the All twenty two and what have you, and I

759
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 3: come on with these guys and I say, Mike.

760
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 1: McDonald is the premier defensive mind on planet Earth.

761
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 3: That that honest to God, that's what I said, and

762
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 3: you and nothing I've seen from what you've done would

763
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 3: take me off that opinion. And so my question to you,

764
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 3: I mean, I'd have my answers, but what is the

765
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 3: Mike McDonald's secret sauce? Like, what are you doing in

766
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 3: your mind that you just say, you know what? There's

767
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 3: thirty one other teams that are that are they're trying

768
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 3: like heck, but I think are is it scheme? Is

769
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 3: it mindset?

770
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 1: Is it? Is it?

771
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 4: Just?

772
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 3: What is that sauce that makes you earn that title? Uh,

773
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:12,240
Speaker 3: that that me and so many fans of yours bestow

774
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 3: on you.

775
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 6: Well, I appreciate saying that sometimes they don't feel that way,

776
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 6: you know, off of things that happened out there. But

777
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 6: I'll tell you that I'm I'm I'm proud of where

778
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 6: our team is and I think, like to answer your

779
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 6: question about the secret sauce, I it's at the risk

780
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 6: of sounding like too cliche, I really I really do

781
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 6: believe that it's you know, we call it twelve is

782
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 6: one year that like the synergy of the group is

783
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 6: where the power resides and the feeling that hopefully people

784
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 6: get when they watch our tape of like the overwhelming force,

785
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 6: uh you know, waves of football kind of beating your

786
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 6: guy and then some all that type of stuff that

787
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 6: that pop that hopefully pops that we want to pop

788
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 6: off the tape is doesn't doesn't just happen. It's an

789
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 6: environment that we try to create here, and it starts

790
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 6: with our coaches, our vets, really all all the support

791
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 6: stuff and the building early you have to have all

792
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 6: these people kind of pushing in the same direction. And

793
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 6: if you don't have that, you're really starting behind the

794
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 6: eight ball. And it's really hard to create the culture

795
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 6: and like the style of play that our guys were

796
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 6: able to create last year. So it's not the sexy answer,

797
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 6: you know, it's not like, Hey, I just I came

798
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 6: up with a cool blitz on Wednesday night because I

799
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 6: had an epiphany from watching my one thousand to play

800
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 6: of tape. Like, you know, sometimes it happens where we

801
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 6: you know that sometimes it happens, and we take pride

802
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 6: in like trying to help our guys put them as

803
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:44,399
Speaker 6: many schematically like advantageous situations as possible. And that's something

804
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 6: that we work really hard to do. But that's not

805
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 6: what wins you. You know a lot of games in

806
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 6: our league that wins you a couple of plays here

807
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 6: and there, and some sometimes it's critical moments, but you know,

808
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 6: to build a team and to be able to do

809
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,359
Speaker 6: it that way, I really believe it's like it's how

810
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 6: we do business, and that's what probably you're most proud of.

811
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what, Mike, before you go, I'll

812
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 2: just pile on the compliments here, because you've earned it, man,

813
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 2: and you know I agree with you. And I was

814
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 2: there when Hughes called you the best defensive mind on

815
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 2: planet Earth, so I can confirm that he actually did

816
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 2: say that. By the way, before you you know, coached

817
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 2: a game for the Hawks.

818
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 1: But I've always thought the.

819
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 2: Star of your defense was the scheme, right, doesn't matter

820
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 2: who's out there, it doesn't matter who's banged up. That's

821
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 2: why that Buccaneer game drove me freaking nuts, because it

822
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 2: just I don't care who's out there. The scheme is

823
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 2: the star, and you calling this defense is maybe the

824
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 2: biggest weapon I believe this football team has got and

825
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 2: I want you to keep doing that. I know you've

826
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 2: been asked before, and you talked about this when you

827
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 2: were hired about your plans for the future. We mentioned

828
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 2: Mike Holmgren, he never gave up play calling as an OC.

829
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 2: He always called plays on offense. But Pete Carroll, you know,

830
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 2: gave those coordinator duties and play calling duties to other people.

831
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 2: Are you on a point now with your career where

832
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 2: you are even considering handing off play calling duties to

833
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 2: coach dirty or does that remain with you for the

834
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 2: foreseeable future.

835
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 6: Well, I think that's that's always going to be like

836
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,879
Speaker 6: up for evaluation based off of what's best for the team.

837
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 6: And I think one of one of the cool well,

838
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 6: what I really love about our defensive staff is, you know,

839
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 6: people give you the play call or the credit for

840
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 6: calling the plays, but it's really it's a it's a

841
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 6: it's really like the end product of like the work

842
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 6: that happened throughout the week. So you know, I'm I

843
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 6: can kind of say that, like I feel like if

844
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 6: anybody was calling the plays right now, we have a

845
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 6: lot of carry over. I think we're all kind of

846
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 6: thinking the same thing going into games, and I think

847
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 6: that's one of the reasons why we had so much

848
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 6: success last year was the alignment we had on the

849
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 6: staff and I think that filters down to the players.

850
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 6: But I do think like the how we how we've

851
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 6: you know, allocated our roles and our responsibilities. Our staff

852
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 6: has really been able to kind of take the bull

853
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 6: by the horns in their area and we got a

854
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 6: really great thing going. So for this year, we're going

855
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 6: to keep the same same structure. I'll still be calling

856
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 6: the plays, but I don't want that to like to

857
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 6: not underscore or really highlight that the amount of impact

858
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,800
Speaker 6: our staff has and actually calling the plays and understanding

859
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 6: the schemes that we're running on Sundays because they have

860
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 6: a huge hand in that.

861
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: I love it.

862
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 2: Hey, listen, great stuff, man, congrats on a hell of

863
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 2: a run.

864
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: Don't be a stranger.

865
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 2: And I'll have my producer, Jackson, get you that music

866
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 2: bet here. Every time the door opens in your office,

867
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 2: we're gonna hear this theme. Don't you think after a

868
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 2: while it might get a little bit annoying.

869
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 6: Note, Coach, I won't say that publicly. No, it sounds

870
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 6: like we're never never go still.

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Speaker 2: Hey, you're the best, Thanks for doing this. Appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk soon, man, Thanks coach.

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Speaker 6: All right, guys, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 7: Enjoyed it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, thank you, you bet.

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Speaker 2: Mike McDonald with us on the radio show, Got that

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Speaker 2: was fun. Let's kind a break, we'll talk about kind

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Speaker 2: of what we heard from the coach there. Coming up

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Speaker 2: on ninety three three KJRFM