1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: Just in case you missed it, it's the top five 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: sports talkers of the day. Now it's time for Dan 3 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: Barrero's Top five and five brought to you by Gutter 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: Helmet of Minnesota. Never clean your gutters again. Learn more 5 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: at Gutter Helmet. 6 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 2: I'll give you two more. 7 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 3: One of them offered up by an alert listener, Bernard Barrion, 8 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 3: that was well before your time. I thought, oh, yes 9 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 3: it was, and it was a disaster, yeah, because he 10 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 3: didn't he basically half the time he was multitasking, like 11 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 3: getting out of his car, eating, talking to somebody else 12 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:40,599 Speaker 3: while I was on with us. 13 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 2: I remember if he listened at all. 14 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 3: And the other one remember, and this was we assumed 15 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 3: this was going to be a can't miss her, Fred Smoot, 16 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 3: and I think that also died quickly. 17 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 2: Maybe we're on the love Boat. I don't even know. 18 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,319 Speaker 3: But the Smoot one, I think we I think we 19 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 3: had originally Smoot was scheduled to be remember that weekly 20 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 3: regular as well. 21 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 2: It was before my time on the show, but I 22 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 2: remember it. I was working here. 23 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, the love Boat anniversary is coming up to 24 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 3: by the way, it's in like four or five days. 25 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 3: I think how many years oh so this is twenty years. 26 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 3: Yeah year was it two thousand and five? Two thousand 27 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 3: and five? Yeah, so the big years that we got 28 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 3: to we probably have to do something with it. Then 29 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:21,559 Speaker 3: we haven't in a while. Should we try Fred's Moon? 30 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 3: Can we afford to? I don't know what we'd have 31 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 3: to be by that. 32 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 2: I don't know. 33 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 3: That's the problem is like what do you want to? 34 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 3: What are you going to ask them? 35 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 2: Any of them? I mean, it's it's it's going to 36 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 2: be r rated. 37 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 3: I think I want Miwelde more than most because I 38 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 3: think he would be the most surprised to find out 39 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 3: what happened on the boat, given that he was completely perplexed. 40 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 2: If I remember. 41 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 3: Asking, is that it never it likely would have never 42 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 3: come to light if two or three of the players 43 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 3: or members of the folks who were on the on 44 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 3: the Love boat didn't pee in the bush exactly had 45 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 3: they just gotten out of there, wait, find a restroom, ye, 46 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 3: go to Maynard's yep, and go you know, and and 47 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,839 Speaker 3: probably sunsets and why is that a back then? Yeah, 48 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 3: that's true, you're right, Yeah, sure, because I think Allen 49 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 3: almost was that way. Yeah, well whatever, that's what that's 50 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 3: what opened the door, right, Yeah, yeah it did because 51 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 3: the neighbors were wondering what the hell was going on. 52 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 3: Maybe Tysle'll come on to talk about it. I mean, 53 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 3: he already did the cheap show. He might actually, yeah, 54 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 3: he might be. He found out about it. He's the 55 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 3: guy that'd actually be interested in how it came to light, 56 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 3: what that phone call was like, what the next few 57 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 3: days were like. Yes, that's what I'd be interested in, 58 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 3: me to you and me both. But the Vikings have 59 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,239 Speaker 3: a ball game to worry about against the Cleveland Browns 60 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 3: on Sunday. This one is in London. Christian Darris saw 61 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:51,119 Speaker 3: another day of rest and load management today at practice. 62 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 3: Michael Jurgens did not participate. He's supposed to be the 63 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 3: backup center, so he's really not gonna be that with 64 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 3: his hamstring injury. Blake Brandell looks like he's going to 65 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 3: be the starting center. Here's a quote that Kevin Seffert 66 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 3: tweeted out about six hours ago. 67 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 2: First of all seat rights. 68 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 3: Brandell confirmed that while he has had a lot of 69 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 3: practice reps at center, he has never played center in 70 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 3: a game. Here's the quote, never in a game, No, 71 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:20,519 Speaker 3: but I've had a lot of practice reps, thankfully, whether 72 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 3: that's scout team or whatever. It's just one of those 73 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 3: things where I am at some point be a possibility 74 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 3: be so I'm excited. Hey, is you're all along the 75 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 3: offensive line. What's the big deal? Well, probably is a 76 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 3: pretty big deal. You got to identify things allegedly, although 77 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 3: maybe if you have a veteran quarterback it's a little 78 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 3: less of a big deal. But it's not good. It's 79 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 3: it's it's obviously not good. And we're assuming. I'm close 80 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 3: to assuming who would replace a regular right tackle. 81 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 2: I don't even know who it would be. I have 82 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 2: to pull up the All twenty two. 83 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 3: Cleveland's defense is better than Pittsburghsbury reminded, Yes, it is, 84 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 3: I know. And you know what's gonna happen. They're gonna 85 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 3: get a bump from this kid quarterback? Yeah is he 86 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 3: he can at least move. 87 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 2: You know what I think is gonna happen. Do you 88 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 2: think we're gonna lose again? No? 89 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 3: I think Wwentz is gonna get knocked out of the game. 90 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 3: Your guy's going to be in and take over. Rosemer 91 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 3: Brownstones is going to show up dominate. The team has 92 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 3: already posted like multiple social media videos of him walking 93 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 3: around London with his family. 94 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 2: You thinks you know something. 95 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 3: Some people are asking, is this a soft launch? Is 96 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 3: this a soft launch for the Brozemer era. Well, he 97 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 3: did a great job, by the way, talking about the 98 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 3: London Eye, I'm just gonna tell you, no question, it 99 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 3: was unbelievable. No one's ever talked about the London eye 100 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 3: like that has been done like that. Well, I somebody 101 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 3: asked me the other day, you know, what are the 102 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 3: odds that he would start the second half of the game. 103 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 3: I said zero, unless Wentz gets hurt. I think that's 104 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 3: the only way he plays, don't you. I don't think 105 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 3: there's any chance, because here's part of the deal. I 106 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 3: think there would be, especially if the line is a disaster. 107 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 3: You don't want to kill the So my belief is 108 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 3: the only way reason Wentz would be pulled from the 109 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 3: lineup would be not because of performance. It would be 110 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 3: he's just battered, and he got pretty battered enough last 111 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 3: week where I wondered even then whether there might be 112 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 3: something to it. Be a hell of a story, no 113 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 3: question about that. The only addition we tray JJ way 114 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 3: until he gets healthy. Yeah, I think he got a 115 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 3: showcase at some point. 116 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's probably true. There was an addition to the 117 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 2: Vikings injury for today. What if the Vikings. 118 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 3: The Vikings had no fewer than four options at quarterback 119 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 3: coming into this season, right, four viable options Darnold, Yep, Jones, Jones, Rogers, 120 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 3: Rogers and JJ. Yeah, what if they picked for this 121 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 3: season at least the worst of the four. 122 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 2: It's possible. 123 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 3: It's very possible, which has still always been the goofy 124 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 3: part about trying to win while he learns on the job, 125 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 3: because he does have to learn on the job. You 126 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 3: can't you there's no way to jump start that anyway, 127 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 3: you were saying. The only other addition to the injury 128 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 3: report today is Dallas Turner who was ill. 129 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 2: She was sick today? What's that all about? Don't know. 130 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 2: He did not participate, had some bad uh fish and 131 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:17,679 Speaker 2: chips or something. I don't even know who I can say, 132 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 2: because like. 133 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 3: I guess I could say, Justin's school was limited in 134 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 3: practice today, but not very nice. 135 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 2: I know it's not because it's not his fault, But 136 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 2: who do I say? 137 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 3: Well, you know Salsbury made that point too, that that 138 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 3: and the Vikings are not along with this there's just 139 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 3: depth is a problem for a lot of teams, especially 140 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 3: if you're if you're if you're decimated along the offensive line, 141 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 3: you're in trouble. 142 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 2: I also heard Guestling earlier in the week with Nordo. 143 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 3: Guestling's you know back in the States, by the way, 144 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 3: so wherever he joins you from tomorrow. He only did 145 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 3: the Dublin games. I didn't realize, so he'll be with 146 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 3: you tomorrow. But he talked about the pro game is 147 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 3: starting to blame the college game for some of their 148 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 3: offensive line problems. Really because so few colleges run pro 149 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 3: style offenses. The linemen that they're getting, they do have 150 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 3: to be developed at a different speed and at in 151 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 3: a different game, and they're not asked to do a 152 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 3: bunch of things. It might be six five, three twenty 153 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 3: five and they can run a four to two forty. 154 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 3: They don't know what the hell they're doing because they're 155 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 3: doing all these up tempo. 156 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 2: That's true. 157 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 3: A lot of. 158 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 2: Quarterbacks very very much on working from the gun. 159 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 3: Everybody says, how much harder it is to be under center, 160 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 3: how much more value you know, how much more versatile 161 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 3: your your offense can be when you do it, but 162 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 3: that a lot of quarterbacks. 163 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 2: It's it's just easy. 164 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 3: You're sitting back there, whatever it is, seven yards, five yards, 165 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 3: and you're just surveying everything. You never have to turn 166 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 3: your back to the defense any of it. So if 167 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 3: you get a couple of injuries, you've been scraping it 168 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 3: together to find five legitimate pro offensive linemen, and it's 169 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 3: harder to find even guys that are on other teams 170 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 3: that can come in and just roll it like they 171 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 3: did with Cam Robinson last year. Have we ever had 172 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 3: in the modern era like the merger? Since the merger, 173 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 3: has there ever been a game that ended zero zero 174 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 3: after the overtime? I'm sure there had to have been. 175 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 3: The Vikings and Raiders were closed a few years ago. 176 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 3: If you remember were they it was like three to three. 177 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 3: Forever it was like three zero. I'm just telling you 178 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 3: this could be Yeah, I know, this could be that 179 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 3: kind of grimy game. The touchdown in field goal sponsors 180 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 3: might not get maid off this week, that's true. Detroit 181 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 3: got it done the Tigers six to three. They double 182 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 3: up Cleveland, they win that series two games to one. 183 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 3: Your Cubs have taken a two zero lead in Wrigley. 184 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 3: It looks like a great day at Wrigley. By the way, 185 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 3: it does look like an ice dog's got to be 186 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 3: living its best life today. Yeah, places packed. That's a 187 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 3: foul ball, fouw ball. They're up to nothing on Diego, 188 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 3: but they had they had basis loaded, nobody out and 189 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 3: only scored twice, which could come back to haunt them. 190 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 2: Got to get those through. 191 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 3: Well, turned three six three double play to get the 192 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 3: Padres out of trouble. But they are up to nothing 193 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 3: in the fourth Yankee Stadium tonight, Game three of that series. 194 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,439 Speaker 3: The Red stock and Yankees, two teams that don't much 195 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 3: like each other, that's for sure. The latest chapter in 196 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 3: the rival You remember a Roldest Chapman. I do one 197 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 3: of the Cubs win the series sixteen twenty sixteen. Yeah, 198 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 3: so nine years ago, he's their closer right as they 199 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 3: win the thing. 200 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 2: Yes, he's in the ninth inning of Game one. 201 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 3: Now with Cleveland, I should say, with Boston, first three 202 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 3: runners get on base in a one run game, basis loaded, 203 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 3: or may have been a two run game, basis loaded, 204 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 3: nobody out, he gets out of it. 205 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 2: It's the Chapman experience. 206 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 3: The oldest Chapman fifteen and he still throws the ball 207 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 3: one hundred and ten miles per hour. 208 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 2: I know. And he was, like you said, he was 209 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 2: World Series guy nine years. 210 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 3: Ago with the Cubs, and that even wasn't that wasn't 211 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 3: even his first stop. 212 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 2: It's already been nine years. That's crazy. It is nuts. 213 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 2: That's crazy, all right. 214 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 3: You want to put a grand in somebody's hands, I'd 215 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:52,719 Speaker 3: love to help somebody with some bonus bucks. It is 216 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 3: our national cast contest and the final keyword of the 217 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 3: evening tonight is credit. Go to kfa n dot com 218 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 3: and enter the keyword. 219 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 2: I've got some. 220 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:05,719 Speaker 3: Questions regarding the ongoing discussion the NAFISA Collier Savagery on 221 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 3: the w NBA commissioner, who has been a very, very 222 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 3: obviously easy target. 223 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 2: She's made herself that over the years. 224 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 3: But I do have some questions about a number of 225 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 3: things offered up that I think, for me at least, 226 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 3: are being too universally praised without at least some pushback 227 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:25,559 Speaker 3: or perhaps a little bit of. 228 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 2: Shall we call it nuance. That's next. 229 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 3: Kate Almus has checked in that time of the year again, 230 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 3: the state of hockey is a buzz about the upcoming season, 231 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,439 Speaker 3: and here we go jg ignoring our favorite. 232 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 2: Sport wants again in the top five. Buzz must be 233 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 2: a day that ends in wah a buzz? Is that 234 00:10:58,480 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 2: what we are? A buzz? 235 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 3: And is that the real k fallness? Or is that 236 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 3: somebody doing the bit? Hang on, let me pull up 237 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 3: the text line. Do you know that that phone number? 238 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 3: You recognize it? 239 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 2: I got to hit the refreshment on the old text 240 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 2: line as much that is him? 241 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, fair enough, funny that he missed. We talked 242 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 3: plenty of hockey. 243 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 2: I hope you got got a new set of staples 244 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 2: or staplerk. I'm still what he was staplaning, probably media 245 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 2: notes or something. Who knows? Good question? I have no 246 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 2: idea good question? Good? 247 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 3: Do you know the the you know what the the 248 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 3: first nickname assigned to me in my earliest years at 249 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 3: cafe in What that nickname was? 250 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 2: I don't think I do squeaky? Oh yes, yes, I 251 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 2: did know. 252 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 3: There was the first that the person I think responsible 253 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 3: for calling me that just texted, Yeah, I'm gonna let 254 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 3: him remain anonymous, but yeah, that is true. That was 255 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 3: my very first Once upon a time I was accused 256 00:11:58,040 --> 00:11:58,559 Speaker 3: of having. 257 00:11:58,360 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 2: A squeaky voice. 258 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 3: I don't think it's a week as it used to be, 259 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 3: but I think it's still got a little bit of 260 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 3: squeaking it. 261 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 2: I can get up there occasionally. Don't think you get 262 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 2: there as high. Russell makes a good point. 263 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 3: What's that if we could fix the audio in his studio, 264 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 3: we would do more hockey talk. Yeah, that's that's from Russell. Yeah, 265 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 3: I think Russell's right. I don't disagree with that. Somebody's 266 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 3: bitter that we don't have He said, well, you guess what. 267 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 3: You had a regular Vikings guest. You had a regular 268 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 3: Wolves guest. By the way, I think Mike Conley's coming 269 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 3: in the studio. You remind me next Monday. On Monday, Yeah, 270 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 3: to start it all over again. We don't have a 271 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,719 Speaker 3: regular wild guest, which is true. We have a lot 272 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 3: of regulars wild related we do. We have had right 273 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 3: wild regulars, including who is the goalie that we had 274 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 3: for years? 275 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 2: Wasn't that for more than one year? It was for 276 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 2: a while. Yeah, we had Dubnik. Yeah, I guess we 277 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 2: could talk about it. It was gonna be. 278 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 3: It was gonna be Paris until I screwed up the 279 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 3: Paris Pontiac deal. That was the shortest regular guest stint 280 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:58,839 Speaker 3: we ever had. That was shorter than Bernard Berry. And 281 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 3: I think it was that is the shortest, that's true. Yeah, 282 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 3: one apparent one appearance, that was it. I don't think 283 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 3: he ever appeared again. No, I don't remember him. And 284 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure Shooter never appeared on the show, and 285 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 3: he definitely didn't appear later when we were taking shots 286 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 3: at him. 287 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 2: And no, he didn't appear as a player. Heard from 288 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 2: his dad though, didn't we Probably we did. 289 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 3: We didn't hear from him as a player or when 290 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 3: he was the assistant GM as you called him. 291 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, we didn't hear from him then either. That might 292 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 2: have been the time where it kind of went south. 293 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 3: It's very very possible I think we have for not 294 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 3: having a regular wild guest. I don't know how you 295 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 3: do any better than Russo and lou Nanny. You don't 296 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 3: twice a week. 297 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 2: You don't. 298 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 3: That's that's my view on it. That's the comeback to it. 299 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 3: So you know, a humble opinion. Well I don't. I 300 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 3: don't disagree with that. And technically Fallness is a regular 301 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 3: because he texts in every day, so we talk about 302 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 3: whatever he wants us to talk about for at least 303 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 3: two minutes. Mission accomplished. Yeah, interesting, he gets us going. 304 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 3: All right, it's still the talk of the w NBA 305 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 3: and the WNB. The NBWA finals start. Is it tomorrow night? 306 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 3: Think it's Friday night. I don't even know where it starts. Vegas. 307 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 2: Well, Vegas was the two seed, so it has to 308 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 2: be Vegas. Yeah. 309 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 3: The NAFISA Klier evisceration, disembowlment of the w NBA commissioners, 310 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 3: no question. She was as vivid and as surgical as 311 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 3: one can imagine. 312 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 2: Probably unprecedented. 313 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 3: I don't remember in any sport, quite frankly, any professional 314 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 3: sport a star going as far as ANFISA callier went. 315 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 3: But I want to I do have some questions about 316 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 3: it that are to continue to kind of stick in 317 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 3: my craw and bug me a little bit, because there's 318 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 3: been I think the acclaim has been a little bit two. 319 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 2: Total. 320 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 3: I think there's some questions that we should be asking 321 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 3: here when it comes to the question of leadership and 322 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 3: message sending the last couple of years, et cetera. I 323 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 3: this program has not been a particularly a particularly huge 324 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 3: fan of Kathy Engelbert for a number of reasons. Although 325 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 3: I will say even folks who are critical of her 326 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 3: say that in terms of from the business side of 327 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 3: it is the fact is she's done exactly what she 328 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 3: was told to do, which is get really fat rich contracts. Yeah, 329 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 3: TV contracts, and so that may be the issue is 330 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 3: she's made more for the business side of it than 331 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 3: necessarily the understanding the basketball side of it, and perhaps 332 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 3: even the relationships between players and UH and and owner 333 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 3: of management, or you could say the commissioner's office, et cetera. 334 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 3: All right, Nafisa, I'm just going to quote this is 335 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 3: from the transcript and then and then ask you a 336 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 3: few questions here as as we go that struck me 337 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 3: as to this point having been unanswered. First of all, 338 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 3: I'd like to congratulate, she said the Mercury for advancing 339 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 3: to the finals. I want to be clear, this conversation 340 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 3: is now about winning or losing. It's about something much bigger. 341 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 3: I ain't buying it. I asked Johnny this question yesterday. 342 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 3: He ain't buying it either. That doesn't make her unique. 343 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 3: And by the way, there can be other things worthy 344 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 3: of discussion, but for Cheryl Reeve and for her best player, 345 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 3: I'm not buying that any different than any other app 346 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 3: player or coach. That what's I think, more than anything 347 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 3: stuck in your craw right now, is you blew a series. 348 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 3: You blew your best chance to get your fifth title 349 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 3: at least currently, and you did it in ways we've 350 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 3: already kind of laid down. I don't need to go 351 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 3: down that road. I think it's too easy to say no, no, no, 352 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 3: I'm above all of that. You're not above all that. 353 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 3: Your coach wasn't sure as hell wasn't above all that 354 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 3: with the way things went down in Game number three. 355 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 2: She then goes on to talk about the officials. 356 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 3: Whether the league cares about the health of the players 357 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 3: is one thing, but also not care about the product 358 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 3: we be on the floor is truly self sabotage. 359 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 2: Year after year. 360 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 3: The only thing that remains consistent is the lack of 361 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 3: accountability from our leaders, and she goes on in depth 362 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 3: on that particular issue. The question seems to be, again, 363 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 3: you're losing control of the games. That would seem to 364 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 3: indicate some difficulty with the physicality of the game being 365 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 3: out of control. 366 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 2: And I'll just ask this question. It's kind of a 367 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 2: rhetorical one. I think. 368 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 3: Last year when Caitlin Clark was occasionally getting maimed. Where 369 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 3: was this frustration? What other players, instead of just making 370 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 3: it about the refts, were interested in going down this 371 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 3: particular road, you know we got instead. I mean, we 372 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 3: can find all the quotes, especially as it pertains to Clark. 373 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 3: She got to deal with it. It's a big leagues man, right, 374 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 3: a passage, right, a passage, These things it takes. There 375 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 3: are several steps involved here. Got to grow up. 376 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 2: You got to learn exactly that this is a This 377 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 2: isn't a big boy league. This is a big girl league. 378 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 3: And so what I guess what I'm saying is I 379 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 3: don't think she's wrong, but when she focuses so little 380 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 3: on other players, I don't trust it as being particularly consistent, 381 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:45,360 Speaker 3: because that's what we heard over and over again, different league, 382 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 3: different level. And stop, we're not going to coddle just 383 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 3: because Caitlyn Clark is everybody's darling. We're not going to 384 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 3: coddle her. Very different message than what we're hearing from 385 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 3: Nafisa Klier. Now she goes on and this is this 386 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 3: to me was especially rich and it's getting He's gotten 387 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 3: all the attention in the world, not surprisingly and unrivaled. 388 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,959 Speaker 3: This past February, she said, I sat across from Kathy 389 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 3: and asked how she planned to address the officiating issues 390 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 3: in our league. Her response was, well, only the losers 391 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 3: complain about the refs. I also asked how she planned 392 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 3: to fix the fact that players like Caitlin Angel and Page, 393 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 3: who are clearly driving massive revenue for the league, are 394 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 3: making so little for their first four years, and her 395 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 3: response was, Caitlyn should be grateful she makes sixty million 396 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 3: dollars off the court, because without the platform the WNBA 397 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 3: gives her, she wouldn't make anything. Now, two things there. One, 398 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:48,640 Speaker 3: I get it, it's a sexy quote. It hits hard, 399 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 3: and it may be exactly what the commissioner said. But 400 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 3: I'm gonna ask you something. If a commissioner or a 401 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 3: reporter offered up the exis Zach quotes allegedly exact quotes 402 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 3: from a private conversation that in this case has to 403 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:07,439 Speaker 3: do with a negotiations which are always going to be 404 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 3: bare knuckled, where people are going to say a lot 405 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 3: of things. I dare say there's probably a couple of 406 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 3: things the players side said that if we knew about them, 407 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,959 Speaker 3: we'd go whoa are you serious? How do we feel 408 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 3: we're okay with it because we don't like the commissioner 409 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 3: that private conversations get revealed. Beyond that same question, now 410 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 3: we're worried about the fairness of what Caitlin Clark may 411 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 3: and some of the other young players makes. 412 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 2: What did we hear a year ago. It's not about 413 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 2: Kaylen Clark. 414 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:44,199 Speaker 3: It doesn't matter that she's a popular She shouldn't be 415 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 3: making the money. The people who built this league, the 416 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 3: veteran players, should be making more money. So all I'm 417 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 3: asking from no FISA is a little little honesty about 418 00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:00,479 Speaker 3: looking within. Because we talked about this all last season. 419 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 3: We said there's a lack of leadership at the top. 420 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 3: But my opinion at least was what the leadership at 421 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 3: the top needs to have with players is a come 422 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 3: to Jesus meeting and say stop being jealous of this 423 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 3: movement and this situation because it's identified as Caitlin Clark mania. 424 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 3: Stop basically sabotaging yourselves. You can think whatever you think 425 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 3: about when she's overrated or she hadn't really done much yet, 426 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 3: and all that's true, but if you want to cross 427 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 3: over the way you say you want to cross over. 428 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 2: Then where are you? Why is this such a difficult deal? Now? 429 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 2: What are we hearing? Now? We're hearing from from her 430 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:43,439 Speaker 2: and I'm not saying Collier. 431 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 3: I'm not sure. And THEFISA, ever was one of the 432 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 3: people who is that critical of Kaylin. I think she's 433 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 3: actually in fact, I think does she have the same representation. 434 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 3: I can't remember, but she I don't remember her actually 435 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 3: going to fire down that road. But the fact is 436 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 3: a lot of players, as you know this, they coaches. 437 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 3: I won't name them all, won't name all the coaches. 438 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 3: That's that was their mantra last year. They bristled a 439 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 3: lot of ex players bristled at the whole Clark thing. 440 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 3: So now it's when it's convenient we get to use 441 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 3: Caitlin Clark about what she wasn't getting. I'd accept it 442 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 3: more fully if the player in this case, NEFISA or 443 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 3: other players who are are jumping on her bandwagon, had 444 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 3: been more consistent with it, because I don't think they 445 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 3: were all that consistent with it at all. I mentioned 446 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 3: the off the record part, you know, the other thing 447 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:45,199 Speaker 3: that that I'm stunned that people haven't pushed back on 448 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 3: it a little bit more. See if I can find 449 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 3: the other page. I thought I had the whole thing here, 450 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 3: but I can't find it. Now. 451 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 2: It's not not page. 452 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 3: There's an enre that was it is unrival rivaled related, 453 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 3: but I cannot I've lost my other page. And it's 454 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 3: when she's talking about the diametric opposites when it comes 455 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 3: to leadership that she's familiar with, and she describes she's 456 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 3: our you know, obviously very critical of the WNBA leadership. 457 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 3: I think there's probably reason to be in a number 458 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 3: of cases. But she uses as the opposite the unrivaled 459 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 3: league that she is an investor in and has done 460 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 3: very well to build it up, very very quickly. Her 461 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 3: husband runs exactly Now, she might be right, but I'm 462 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 3: just going to tell you if anybody else brings up 463 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 3: their significant other, no one is accepting it as easier 464 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 3: going to say, well that's kind of convenient. I mean, 465 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 3: you're you might be a little bit biased there too, 466 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 3: there might be a little bit of an objectivity issue. 467 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 3: And even on the on the on the question of 468 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 3: apparently she said that when anybody got in our the 469 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,959 Speaker 3: unrival league gets hurt, he's the first one to make 470 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 3: a phone call. And I still haven't received a phone 471 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 3: call from the Commissioner's office from the commissioner at least 472 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 3: since the bad injury that that that she suffered. 473 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 2: Seriously unrivaled league. 474 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 3: I don't know how many how many players are in it, 475 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 3: how many teams are in it. 476 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 2: It's a little different than the WNBA, one hundred percent. 477 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 2: Even the WNBA is not as big as the NBA. 478 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 3: But come on, man, and you can't leave out the 479 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 3: other little nugget. Maybe part of the reason you didn't 480 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 3: get the call that you say you earned or deserved 481 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 3: is the uncomfortable nature of the relationship right now between 482 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 3: the front the the the Commissioner's office, and the Minnesota 483 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 3: Lynx because the behavior of your own head coach ended 484 00:24:55,200 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 3: up resulting in an historic suspension that's never been done before. 485 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 3: That's the context of it. So for me, again, I'm 486 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 3: not here to shoot the messenger. I'm not here to 487 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 3: say that she doesn't have some legitimate points. I'm just 488 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 3: here to say there's some inconsistencies to this, and I 489 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 3: don't like the way the shift has taken place from 490 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,360 Speaker 3: a year ago to when a lot of these same 491 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 3: subjects came up, and in terms of if NAFISA is 492 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:27,919 Speaker 3: really trying to make several points to me about, you know, 493 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 3: holding individuals accountable in positions of authority, et cetera. 494 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 2: It's too easy to leave out the players, in my opinion, It's. 495 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 3: Too easy to say, well, we're going to make it 496 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 3: all about the commissioner's office when almost every point she 497 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 3: brought up was viewed in a one hundred and eighty 498 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 3: degree different context a year ago. Is that not fair well, 499 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:54,919 Speaker 3: certainly on the physicality because Clark was basically beaten up 500 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 3: everything last year, and there was a lot of right 501 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 3: of passage talk for sure, and on the salaries too, 502 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 3: like those of those were all collectively bargained. Right, that's 503 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 3: and that's going to be part of this next thing. 504 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 3: I think we all understood that there's probably going to 505 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 3: be a jump, right. Rookie salaries are not very much. 506 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 3: We all knew that going in. We knew that they 507 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 3: were low enough that people actually thought, well, she might 508 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 3: stay in college because she'll make more money, which by 509 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 3: the way, was ludicrous because all of that money was 510 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 3: coming whether she was in Iowa City or she was 511 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 3: moving on to the w NBA. Right, But yeah, the 512 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 3: Clark thing is is the most interesting part, and I 513 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,479 Speaker 3: don't remember in the FISA really having much of an 514 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 3: opinion on that in general, Like she's typically not agree 515 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 3: wading into those waters, I agree, which I think, by 516 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 3: the way, to her credit. It is to her credit. 517 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 3: But if the game is we're gonna hold, we're going 518 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 3: to confront. I'm saying I'm not blaming her because I 519 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,640 Speaker 3: don't think she has been inconsistent, But those are issues 520 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 3: that have been talked about where people aren't afraid to 521 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 3: talk about them for over a year, right and and 522 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 3: and that's that's part of what uggs me. If you 523 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 3: leave all that out, I'm not buying exactly what you're selling, 524 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 3: because that's a component of this thing. And on the 525 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 3: money part, to your point, there's a rookie wage scale 526 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,479 Speaker 3: in the NBA too. Now it's obviously on a much 527 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 3: higher level, but this is part of the to be 528 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 3: honest with you, among the things I thought where Clark 529 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 3: was being unfairly treated, salary wasn't at the top of 530 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 3: my list, even though it didn't make any sense given 531 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 3: the way she was driving ratings. But there was a 532 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 3: part of me saying, well, what are you gonna do? 533 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 3: Got you can't have a rookie wage scale except for 534 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,919 Speaker 3: when Caitlin Clark comes right exactly di asterisk, You can't. 535 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 3: You may have to, I mean, that's what why she 536 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:49,959 Speaker 3: represents something that was so different. 537 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 2: But what do you do? 538 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 3: The money has to be there to come from someplace, 539 00:27:55,560 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 3: and in fact, again from a TV contract standpoint. League 540 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 3: is blossoming, but it's done pretty damn well. 541 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 2: Now, is there. 542 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:09,360 Speaker 3: Still more room that that should be coming the player's way. Probably, 543 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 3: I wouldn't doubt that that'd be the case, But I 544 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 3: just I don't know. I just think that there are 545 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 3: financial realities here that still have to do with the 546 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 3: league that's headed in the right direction, but still does 547 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 3: not even though valuations have gone up, is still not 548 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,199 Speaker 3: making a ton of money in the conventional sense as 549 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 3: far as we know, correct? 550 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 2: Right? Did anything else hit you from? No? Now? Also? 551 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 3: Real quick, I'm sorry, Reeve. Did you hear Reeve after 552 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 3: in during that same session, because it was eye opening 553 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 3: Reeve to me, she didn't go far enough. Basically, she 554 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 3: didn't do enough of a mea culpa about her behavior. 555 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 3: But beyond that, did you hear what she said about 556 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 3: the physicality? She basically said she basically acknowledged that we're 557 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 3: not We know, we were aware that we're really not 558 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 3: made for those kinds of to beat those kinds of teams. 559 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 2: That's part of the reason. 560 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 3: And we made the trade for who was the injured player, 561 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 3: Carrington Carrington exactly. 562 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 2: That's the reason. 563 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 3: So I'm thinking, for all the people who are who 564 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 3: are bombed, just bombarding me, referees screwed them. 565 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 2: They didn't have a chance. They got mugged. 566 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 3: Cheryl Reeve, in maybe a moment, maybe I misread the quote, 567 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 3: but I thought, in a in a rare moment of 568 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 3: candor on this issue, basically said we're not really made 569 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 3: that way. And my argument then is, well, while you're 570 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 3: fighting the battle for changing the officiating approach, you still 571 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 3: have to live in it. So isn't part of your 572 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 3: job to go about putting together a roster that is 573 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 3: going to be better equipped to do it? 574 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: Now? 575 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 3: I'm sure in their mind they thought they were fine 576 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,479 Speaker 3: because they had the best record in basketball by six games, right, 577 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 3: but nevertheless dominant. I thought it was an interesting admission, 578 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 3: but go ahead. The Reeve comment that got my attention. 579 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 3: You mentioned that she didn't really go very far into 580 00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 3: Maya culpa was when she kept reiter eating her situation 581 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:07,719 Speaker 3: was an unprecedented situation, which basically to me was martyrdom, Like, well, 582 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 3: they've never done that before, you know what I mean? Like, 583 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 3: I don't think anyone's dropped multiple F bombs and called 584 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 3: it mal malpractice and they had to do something like you, 585 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 3: you were forcing their hand to do something. You bet 586 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 3: that they weren't going to suspend you because it is unprecedented. 587 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 3: Why is it unprecedented? Because I don't remember it ever 588 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 3: happening like that before, do you. I guess I could 589 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 3: go back and watch other press conference answered your own question. Yeah, 590 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 3: but I didn't like that because that's like, well, they 591 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 3: did something they'd never done before, and I couldn't coach 592 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 3: Game four. I couldn't coach Game four, and then at 593 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 3: the fan fest they had at the target Field train 594 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 3: station basically, so well, I guess I could also put 595 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 3: out a we have a suggestion box, what about a 596 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 3: collection box? 597 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 2: From my fines. 598 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 3: It's like, okay, yeah, you weren't able to coach in 599 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,239 Speaker 3: game four, and I get it, you're trying to make 600 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 3: your point and everything, but you you weren't there for 601 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 3: a pivotal Game four, maybe it wouldn't have made a difference. 602 00:30:59,240 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 2: That's not the point. 603 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 3: So that bugged me because that's not because I said 604 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 3: it on the day. If to me it all goes 605 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 3: and I get it, there's and my overarching thing. If 606 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 3: Kathy Engelbert said what she said about Kaitlin Clark and 607 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 3: then the FISA Collier said, then that is like game 608 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 3: set match, like she has no clue. 609 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 2: She's not equipped to run the league. 610 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 3: If that's your stance on Clark, that she should be 611 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 3: feel lucky to have our play, Yes, which what we 612 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 3: we If you're a called we talked about last year 613 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 3: that Clark never came up, was not even named by 614 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 3: the commissioner press conference, right, So she she probably doesn't 615 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 3: doesn't get it. What's different though, was then it was, well, 616 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 3: her leadership is a problem, but part of the talk 617 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 3: she needs to have is with her own players. Right. So, 618 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 3: but if that's her stance, then yes, she's done. She 619 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 3: told she she clearly shouldn't be running the league. But 620 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 3: I said it the day after the game. If they're 621 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 3: if they're worried more about what happened in game four, 622 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 3: for games I guess games three, Game three as opposed 623 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 3: to what they contributed in Game two, which was just 624 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 3: a ridiculous way to lose a game, which and they've 625 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 3: been flirting with that, you know all year, you playing 626 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 3: with their food stuff that we use on the Timberwolves. 627 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 3: If they're more worried about that than their own culpability 628 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 3: on Game two, then then they're in trouble. Then they're 629 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 3: just not going to get it. And I don't think 630 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 3: they I don't think they have it. I think they 631 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 3: focused completely on what happened in Game three, and there's 632 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 3: not been enough accountability for Game two when that's when 633 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 3: they lost control of everything for no reason but their 634 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 3: own carelessness with the basketball. And here we are, and 635 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 3: I'll still say I do not think it was a foul. 636 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 3: I know it ends up being a bad injury, but 637 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 3: the regarding Reeve, yeah, it's unprecedented, it's but it's it's 638 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 3: it's as you say, what choice do they have you 639 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 3: when you even if you can't stand leadership, Okay, you 640 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 3: left leadership even if it's a poorly run organization with 641 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 3: no choice, or at the very least you made it 642 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 3: easy for them to go as far as they did. 643 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 3: Because I don't think there has been any behavior by 644 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 3: a coach at the professional level that matches the way 645 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 3: Cheryl Reeve conducted herself during that game, on her way 646 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 3: to the locker room and in the media scrum afterwards. Yeah, 647 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 3: it's all if the if the fine and suspension was unprecedented, 648 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 3: it's because the behavior was absolutely unprecedented as well. No 649 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 3: rap presented by American pressure commercial grade pressure washers since 650 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 3: nineteen seventy five. 651 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 2: It's the bumper to bumper show rap Thursday Night football tonight. 652 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 3: Niners at Rams tomorrow will have picks Ben Gesling and 653 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 3: Lavelle as well. There's a decent number of Texters who 654 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 3: kind of I think missed the point that that happens 655 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 3: from time to time, people saying that at a majority 656 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 3: of that that the FISA believe speaks for the majority 657 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 3: of the WNB players. 658 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 2: I don't doubt that a minute. 659 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 3: I've never, in anything I've said, suggested otherwise. What I 660 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 3: have suggested is that the arguments that are being made 661 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 3: now in this case to hammer the Commissioner's office have 662 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 3: never been, had never previously been used to hammer players 663 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 3: fellow players the way I think I certainly did feel 664 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 3: being consistent should have been a year ago, there weren't 665 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 3: There wasn't anybody championing Caitlin Clark's cause when it came 666 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,800 Speaker 3: to money or physicality. And I just find that amusing 667 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 3: that now we're looking at a completely different way. That's 668 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 3: not my saying that they that the majority of players 669 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 3: don't agree. I will add, and you, I think, will 670 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:50,320 Speaker 3: disagree with me on this. 671 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:50,760 Speaker 2: Probably. 672 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 3: I think it has become too easy to literally blame 673 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 3: everything on the boogeyman, and in this case, the boogyman 674 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:03,280 Speaker 3: is the comission, all the foul calls, all the circumstances, 675 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 3: all the difficulties. 676 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 2: I don't buy it. 677 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,320 Speaker 3: I think the more you do that, the more you 678 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 3: leave anything else out, any possibility of gray areas. 679 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 2: And I just don't. That's just not where I reside. 680 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 3: It's the easiest thing to do because she is the boogeyman, 681 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 3: she's been her own worst enemy. She deserves a lot 682 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 3: of the criticism. But for me, then it makes it 683 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 3: too easy to that's the crutch we lost. We blew 684 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 3: a twenty point lead, not our fault, commissioner's fault. They 685 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 3: blew it on the traveling call we didn't get a 686 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 3: year ago. That's what somebody else texted too that people 687 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 3: are still frustrated by that. 688 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 2: I'm sure they are. 689 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,839 Speaker 3: That had nothing to do with blowing the twenty point lead, 690 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 3: had nothing to do with as much as the fista. 691 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 3: Kllier is a great player. She scored five points in 692 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 3: the second half of Game two. She scored four points 693 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 3: in the second half of Game three, including zero in 694 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 3: the fourth quarter. That doesn't mean I want to cut her, 695 00:35:55,600 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 3: but I'm saying those things are basketball related. The other 696 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 3: team played better, maybe the other team figured out how 697 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,399 Speaker 3: to play her. If you want to go excuse you can. 698 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,280 Speaker 3: She got brutalized. It wasn't her fault. She was getting 699 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 3: mugged on every play, So you can go that route. 700 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 3: But if you leave all the basketball stuff out that 701 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 3: have has nothing to do with whether the league is 702 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 3: too cheap or whether players are getting enough money, or 703 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 3: whatever the case may be, and you just centered on 704 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 3: the basketball, then you can't deny that the entity responsible 705 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 3: for the Links underachieving in the playoffs this year is 706 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:37,880 Speaker 3: the Minnesota Links and their head coach. It happens, doesn't 707 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 3: mean they're done forever. But the more you want to 708 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 3: go down those other roads, the more I get you. 709 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 3: The more I understand is if you divert, you don't 710 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:51,320 Speaker 3: have to live with the likelihood that, man, we had it. 711 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 3: I mean, we're in great shape at home and we 712 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:54,800 Speaker 3: blew it. But I don't want to talk about that 713 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,880 Speaker 3: because that's internal. That means I have to accept the 714 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 3: possibility that at the moment of truth, team did not 715 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 3: keep its composure and did not handle itself all that well. Again, 716 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,360 Speaker 3: on what she's saying, there's a lot of truth I 717 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 3: think to what she's saying. I'm just saying for me, 718 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 3: it's a little incomplete, and it completely subverts all the 719 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,759 Speaker 3: stuff we heard last year, not by her, make that clear, 720 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 3: by other people, but other leadership people, other good players 721 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,359 Speaker 3: in this league about Caitlyn's got to figure it out. 722 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 3: We're not here to Kyle Caitlyn. Yeah, they're gonna play 723 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 3: her hard, they're gonna guard her hard. Maybe they are 724 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 3: gonna follow follow her a little bit. But that's what 725 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 3: the best players in this league learned. Seemed that the 726 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 3: context was different. Now it's about the officiating. It wasn't 727 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:39,320 Speaker 3: so much about the officiating. 728 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 1: Then. 729 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,839 Speaker 3: Also want to thank our outstanding array of guests today, 730 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 3: which includes Sean Salisbury, and a very good mix of 731 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 3: inbox writers today as well, another great mix. 732 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:51,799 Speaker 2: It was a very good mix. 733 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 3: They love the Pac Custler letters. Are you going to 734 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:57,360 Speaker 3: text him just to see if he's okay. I'm going 735 00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 3: to text him to see if he's okay. Maybe you 736 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,839 Speaker 3: do that, Yeah, you do a welfare I just want 737 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:02,920 Speaker 3: to be sure. And maybe he's like, maybe it's costing 738 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:04,400 Speaker 3: too much money to use his text. 739 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:04,799 Speaker 2: Line over there. 740 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 3: I don't know, Freaky mcfreak said, freak. He said, enough, 741 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 3: I'm the only one working right now. Can you can 742 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 3: he's up a little bit. That's also possible for sure. 743 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 3: I think I'll watch a little Niners rams. 744 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 2: How about you? Maybe? 745 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, right, I'll see in and out is the words 746 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 3: might be the approach that we football is typically not electric. No, 747 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 3: that's uh said. I thought Monday night was awful. The 748 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,239 Speaker 3: double header games are Tarta tomorrow picks. As I said, 749 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,120 Speaker 3: Guestling and Lavelle hope to join us at three. 750 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 2: You don't show us what you can do, a lot 751 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 2: of things that are easily crutchable. 752 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 1: What the hell's going on out here?