1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: Boston's bulldozer never sleeps The Kooner Report weekend edition on 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: the Voice of Boston w RKO. 3 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 2: Joining us now as she always does at this time, 4 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 2: doctor Grace, putting liberals in their place. Grace roto full disclosure. Yes, 5 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 2: I'm married up, way up. She's my better half, Grace. 6 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 2: How are you? 7 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,479 Speaker 3: I am very well? Thank you Jack. It was nice 8 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 3: to be with the kingman. Yes. 9 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 2: Now, for some reason we're having a your kind of 10 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 2: breaking up as we're we can't hear you as well, 11 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 2: So I don't know if there's a phone connection or whatever, 12 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 2: but let's see if we can maybe work that out, Grace. 13 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 2: So I just want to ask you, if you were 14 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 2: to answer our pole question, who is the most stupid? 15 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 2: Because you know, Gretch, you know we had AOC and Munich, 16 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 2: we had Gavin Newsom in Munich. Kamala Harris is still 17 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 2: technically leading in polls among Democratic primary voters, although Newsom 18 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 2: is number two, he's considered one of the front runners. 19 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 2: So if it's AOC, A, Kamala Harris, b and Gavin 20 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 2: you some c who do you think is this you 21 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 2: know the stupidest of those three? Who would you say 22 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 2: is the most stupid. 23 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 3: By a country mile is Kamala Harris. She can't conclude 24 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 3: a sentence without confusing everybody in the room. And she 25 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 3: begins on one point and by the end she's somewhere else. 26 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 3: And I think it's a combination of very low IQ 27 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 3: and some kind of substance abuse, and that's a deadly combination. 28 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 2: So you're saying she's even more stupid, that she's even 29 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 2: more stupid than AOC. 30 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 3: I mean, listen, she's all the way stupid. 31 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 2: Okay, So let me ask you this. So AOC was 32 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 2: at Munich. You you know, I've been playing cuts all morning. 33 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 2: She completely bombed the Taiwan question. It was an embarrassment. Venezuela, 34 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 2: she says, is below the equator. It's above the equator. 35 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 2: Spain introduced horses and cowboys to Mexico. She didn't. I 36 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 2: don't think she knows that Mexico was once a colony 37 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 2: of Spain. I could go on and on and on. Look, 38 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 2: she was out of her depth, out of her league. 39 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 2: It was very obvious. Did she commit political suicide? Not domestically, 40 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 2: She'll still be a congresswoman, but in terms of being 41 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:46,119 Speaker 2: a national political force, did she basically cut her own 42 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 2: political throat. Or do you think that a party that 43 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 2: would nominate Kamala will nominate AOC. 44 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 3: What say you, Jeff, I don't think that she is 45 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 3: going to be the nominee. She just doesn't have what 46 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 3: it takes. Even within her own party, among the elites, 47 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 3: they don't think well of her. So the power brokers 48 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 3: within the Democratic Party aren't going to allow it, and 49 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 3: they're not going to take another chance on another miss stupid. 50 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 3: They're not going to do that. So she showed that 51 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 3: when it comes to foreign affairs, she just can't cut it. 52 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 3: And the American people are going to want a strong, intelligent, 53 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 3: capable commander in chief, especially as the threats around the 54 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 3: world they don't recede. So there's no way this woman 55 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 3: is going to be the nominee. 56 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 2: What did you make of Rubio's performance? What did you 57 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 2: make of his speech? Did he elevate himself now to 58 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 2: a statesman? And could he now be the front runner 59 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 2: for president in twenty twenty eight? 60 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 3: Well, Jeff, I love it that you've been using the 61 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 3: word all morning statesman and that, to be honest, has 62 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 3: been lacking in the Trump administration. We need a statesman 63 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 3: and one of the areas that I have so disagreed 64 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 3: with how this administration has taken on Europe and Canada is. 65 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 3: These are our brothers and sisters, These are our partners 66 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 3: in civilization and in freedom. And I never wanted these 67 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 3: disputes to be so public. I always thought that the 68 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 3: disputes we have amongst each other, like with any family, 69 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 3: you air your dirty laundry in private, never in public. 70 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 3: Why cut us down like that? And what Marco Rubio 71 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 3: did is get us to where it's the tone. It's 72 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 3: the tone that I want to see from this administration. Yes, 73 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 3: we've got problems to fix, yet sometimes they upset us, 74 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 3: but it's got to be done with the spirit of 75 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 3: unbreakable allies. That's what Canada is has been, That's what 76 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 3: Europe is has been. This is Western civilization. We have 77 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 3: to stand as one and brovel. Bravo, bravo to Marco Rubio. 78 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,919 Speaker 3: This is the tone that I want to see. Even 79 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 3: when he's saying tough stuff, he was also reprimanding them 80 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 3: and calling out the leftist policies that are destructive. But 81 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 3: he did it as a leader, getting us to a 82 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 3: better place with his words, not miring us in unnecessary 83 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 3: antagonism and division. 84 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 2: Do you think now with this speech, Rubio, can he 85 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 2: beat Vance in a primary or do you still think? 86 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 2: You know, historically vice president's win denominations, especially if the 87 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 2: president has a successful term. That's just the way it is, 88 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 2: at least throughout most of American history. Vance has been 89 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 2: seen so far anyway, very effective, very loyal vice president, 90 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 2: has taken on a lot of portfolios. I know he's 91 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 2: still relatively in experience, but three years from now he 92 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 2: won't be. I think he'll be in political prime. That's 93 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 2: just me. But what say you do you think now 94 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 2: with this speech and with the way Rubio, let's be honest, 95 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 2: has been a very good Secretary of State. He's also 96 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:16,239 Speaker 2: National Security Advisor. He's taken on multiple roles. He's taken 97 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 2: a massive workload. He's frankly surprised me. I didn't think 98 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 2: he was going to be this good. Is Rubio potentially 99 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 2: the man to beat or do you think it will 100 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 2: be Vance? 101 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 3: Well, Jeff, to be honest with you, both men have 102 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 3: some deficiencies. In my eyes, I've always thought that Vance 103 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 3: was way too inexperienced, and as you say, he's going 104 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 3: to need a lot more years of experience, so let's 105 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 3: see how that materializes. And the problem with Rubio is 106 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 3: he's been a neocon most of his life and then 107 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 3: he switched to MAGA, So there's a little bit of 108 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 3: doubt about him in terms of how steady is he 109 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 3: going to be on every single MAGA policy once he 110 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 3: gets in there. So I just right now to tell 111 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 3: you the honest to god truth. I have more of 112 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 3: a wait and see attitude. We also have to see 113 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 3: what issues remain unfulfilled by the end of the second term, 114 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 3: and which of the two of these men or maybe 115 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 3: other men are going to rise or other women are 116 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 3: going to rise. That most speaks to us. So when 117 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 3: it comes to discussing three years from now, I'm really 118 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 3: not all in on anybody, and not even on either 119 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 3: of these two. 120 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 2: Is there any dark horse candidate that you're looking at? 121 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 2: Is there any a Tulsi Gabbard? You know your guy 122 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 2: Ron DeSantis. He won't be governor of Florida anymore. He'll 123 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 2: have a chance at a second crack at the can. 124 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 2: Maybe he learns some from his mistakes and his first 125 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 2: time go around. Is there anybody you're looking at that 126 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 2: you think could be a spoiler because everyone's talking vance 127 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 2: Rubio right now. But is there anyone out there that 128 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 2: you say watch out. That person can come right up 129 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 2: the middle and take it. 130 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 3: Well, if I could tweak his personality to make him 131 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 3: less boring and a more exciting campaigner. The person that 132 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 3: I think would be the best actual governor leader, like 133 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 3: actual in government, you know, getting stuff done that we need, 134 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 3: is Rohn DeSantis. To me, he is still number one. 135 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 3: The problem is it's very hard to get to strike 136 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 3: a fire in people. It's all about let's make this 137 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 3: decision with hard. So he's got some seasoning to go 138 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 3: as well. 139 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 2: Well, maybe you could help him out with his shoes. 140 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 2: If you remember the last time around, he got a 141 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 2: couple of inches like these heels that were two three 142 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 2: inches higher to try to make himself look taller on 143 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 2: the debate stage. 144 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 3: Hey, Jeff, can we have you? That's the one I 145 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 3: really want? Ah? 146 00:08:56,400 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 2: Thanks, kat I wasn't born in the United States. Now 147 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 2: let's quickly go to the Democrats. Grace. You've got about 148 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 2: two minutes. Is Kamala now has won Recent polls say 149 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 2: if they were to do a primary now, she would 150 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 2: win unbelievably. Newsom, though is a front runner, one of 151 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 2: the front runners. He would be second place AOC. I 152 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 2: don't know what's going to happen now after what happened 153 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 2: over the weekend. You've got a couple of others, Gretchen Whitmer, 154 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 2: Josh Shapiro from Pennsylvania, Amy Klobuchar in Minnesota. But basically 155 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 2: you're looking at Kamala Newsome and AOC. If that's their choice, 156 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:43,199 Speaker 2: do the Democrats have a prayer in twenty twenty eight, Well. 157 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 3: Look, if that's their choice, I think that the party's 158 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 3: going to go with Newsome's if that's you know, the 159 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 3: remaining three that they are considering, and between now and then, 160 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 3: anything is possible. One thing I've learned, never underestimate the 161 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 3: ignorance and the empathy of the people of this country. 162 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 2: So you think that even with a newse Some say, 163 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 2: if Newsome wins the nomination, you still think the Democrats 164 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 2: pose a danger and potentially winning the presidency, even though 165 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 2: California has been such a disaster. 166 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 3: Look, everything depends on the results, the final results of 167 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 3: the second Trump administration, and so right now, the affordability 168 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 3: crisis is still number one on people's minds. If this 169 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 3: is not resolved by then, it's going to be a 170 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 3: vote against whoever was in office now. So sadly that's 171 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 3: just the way it goes. And never mind all the 172 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 3: other achievements. You know. 173 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 2: Interesting, Okay, I know you don't like to do this, 174 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 2: but we oh and we've got thirty seconds. Look in 175 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:53,439 Speaker 2: your crystal ball. What ticket do you see for the Republicans? 176 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 2: What ticket do you see for the Democrats? 177 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 3: Gosh, you're so right, Cheff when you say I hate 178 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 3: to do that. Crystal ball, crystal ball, I think right 179 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 3: now we would definitely be at this moment a Vance 180 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 3: Rubio ticket with Vance leading it. And I don't think 181 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 3: Rubio would try to knock him out. I think he 182 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 3: would just play ball and go along. 183 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 2: And for the Democrats, Mike, you're kidding. You couldn't let 184 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 2: her get out or pick for the Democrats? Are you serious? 185 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: If Jeff doesn't get a day off. This request came 186 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,839 Speaker 1: from his wife. The Kuner Report weekend edition on the 187 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:34,959 Speaker 1: Boys for Boston WRKO