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Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI A six on demand.

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Speaker 2: Fight the Good Fight one Timothy six twelve says, fight

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Speaker 2: the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life.

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Speaker 2: You know, having a good focus is important, knowing what

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Speaker 2: the prize is in any given situation, what your goal is,

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Speaker 2: what you're shooting for. But in this verse that that

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Speaker 2: phrase fight the good fight of faith. How many times

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Speaker 2: have you heard the term fight the good faith or

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Speaker 2: fight the good fight when somebody is up against negativity

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Speaker 2: or evil or something that is counter to the will

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Speaker 2: of God. Now it may be guised in something that

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Speaker 2: looks secular, but really all fights against good and evil,

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Speaker 2: right and wrong, justice and injustice are fights for God.

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Speaker 2: And in this verse it reminds you that it's the

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Speaker 2: fight of faith, that it will be a continual fight.

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Speaker 2: Remember in scripture you are asked to be a living sacrifice,

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Speaker 2: So this is a daily battle fighting this fight. Well,

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Speaker 2: I want you to think about that concept and allow

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Speaker 2: it to permeate who you are and find out how

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Speaker 2: you are to be the best fighter you can be. Now,

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Speaker 2: it's not about fighting with sticks or stones, or fighting

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Speaker 2: with swords or guns. This battle that it's talking about

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Speaker 2: in scripture is a spiritual one, and you need to

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Speaker 2: know what it takes to be that spiritual fighter and

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Speaker 2: what your enemies look like, sound like, feel like you See,

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Speaker 2: if you were a championship boxer of a fighter, you

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Speaker 2: would be fit, you'd be in shape, you'd be healthy. Right,

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Speaker 2: So if you're gonna fight the good fight, you need

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Speaker 2: to be spiritually fit, spiritually in shape, spiritually healthy. This

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Speaker 2: is not really any different than being physically fit, or

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Speaker 2: physically in shape or physically healthy. There are similar rules

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Speaker 2: in both. This can only be obtained with effort, the

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Speaker 2: same way it does in the physical world. You strengthen

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Speaker 2: your muscles by giving time to them, by focusing on them,

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Speaker 2: by working out. In one Timothy four to seven, it says,

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Speaker 2: and I'm going to abbreviate this a little bit. On

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Speaker 2: the other hand, discipline yourself for the purpose of godliness.

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Speaker 2: So this discipline that you would normally use, maybe for

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Speaker 2: purpose of godliness. Honing, strengthening, guiding, and building your spiritual muscles.

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Speaker 2: Goes on to say, for bodily discipline is only of

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Speaker 2: little profit, but godliness is profitable for all things, since

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Speaker 2: it holds promise for the present life and also for

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Speaker 2: the life to come. Working out and strengthening your body

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Speaker 2: is a wonderful thing. Being healthy physically is a wonderful thing,

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Speaker 2: But it means nothing if your spiritually unfit. If you're

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Speaker 2: spiritually out of shape or spiritually unhealthy. So when Scripture

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Speaker 2: calls you to fight the good fight of faith, and

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Speaker 2: you prepare yourself like a fighter, you spend time push

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Speaker 2: yourself with effort to discipline yourself for the purpose of godliness.

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Speaker 2: You don't want to grow weary or sluggish or weigh

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Speaker 2: by not reading scripture, by not praying, by not spending

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Speaker 2: time in God's house with God's people. Hebrews six eleven says,

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Speaker 2: and we desire that which each one of you show

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Speaker 2: of hope until the end, so that you will not

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Speaker 2: be sluggish imitators of those, through faith and patience inherit

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Speaker 2: the promise. You know that that term imitator, in this case,

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Speaker 2: imitators of those who, through faith and patience inherit the promise.

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Speaker 2: When you first start working out, physically. Sticking to the

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Speaker 2: concept of this fighter, The first thing you do, just

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Speaker 2: like when you were a child, is to imitate, to mimic.

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Speaker 2: You look at what's being done, and you try and

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Speaker 2: mimic it at first, and then you slowly start to

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Speaker 2: understand it, consume more information and apply it to your life.

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Speaker 2: But to imitate, to look, to take guidance from those

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Speaker 2: around you, who are older in the faith, are stronger

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Speaker 2: to help guide you. The Bible is not just a

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Speaker 2: book of bumper sticker thoughts or really nice thoughts. It's

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Speaker 2: a guide. I want you to see how the disciples acted,

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Speaker 2: you to be able to mimic these things as you

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Speaker 2: do the good godly people in your life. Now you're

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Speaker 2: called to that this will truly give you strength. All

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Speaker 2: these things, both physically and spiritually, can only be obtained

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Speaker 2: with effort. Titus three eight says this is a trustworthy statement.

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Speaker 2: Goes on to say, those of you who have believed

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Speaker 2: God will be careful to engage in good deeds. These

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Speaker 2: godly way gives you strength to spend time in scripture

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Speaker 2: reading to pray. These things build spiritual strength Philippians four eight. Finally, brethren,

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Speaker 2: whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is right, whatever

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Speaker 1: Here.

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Speaker 2: What's being said here, it's this list is that the

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Speaker 2: nutrients of a healthy spiritual life. These are the guidelines

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Speaker 2: to understanding how to build your spiritual muscles to fight

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Speaker 2: that good fight of faith, as it says in One

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Speaker 2: Timothy six twelve. And how wonderful it is as you

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Speaker 2: look through this list to help guide you through everyday

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Speaker 2: these things. This is where you should live. This is

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Speaker 2: what you should consume, participate in exude every day. And

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Speaker 2: interestingly enough, it goes back to that concept of watching

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Speaker 2: So once again to mimic to look, to imitate at

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Speaker 2: the beginning, at the beginning, to act as the other

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Speaker 2: people that you trust, that you love, that you know,

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Speaker 2: love God, and see God's will act. And in the

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Speaker 2: process of doing that you learn, you build your spiritual muscles,

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Speaker 2: and you become that person that God wants you to be.

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Speaker 2: Fight the good fight of faith. Lay hold on eternal life,

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Speaker 2: says on Timothy six twelve. We've learned that if you

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Speaker 2: were to be like a championship boxer, but in the

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Speaker 2: spiritual realm, that you have to give effort, You have

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Speaker 2: of prayer, to do good things like in Philippians four eight.

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Speaker 2: To focus on the things that are godly, whatever's right, pure, lovely,

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Speaker 2: then these are the things that you should be focusing on.

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Speaker 2: They will build your strength. But also, if you were

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Speaker 2: And as a believer, you need to know where those

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Speaker 2: to poke at you. And for a believer, vulnerability lies

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Speaker 2: in temptation, false teachings, persecution, and you need to remind

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Speaker 2: consider it all joy, my brethren, when you encounter various trials,

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Speaker 2: knowing that the testing of your faith produces endurance more

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Speaker 2: athletic type terms in scripture endurance and let endurance have

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Speaker 2: its perfect result, so that you may be perfect and complete,

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Speaker 2: lacking in nothing. The key of dealing with temptation and

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Speaker 2: those trials that fall upon you is that endurance, going

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Speaker 2: back continually to your faith to build strength. False teachings

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Speaker 2: Matthew seven fifteen says, beware of the false prophets who

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Speaker 2: come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

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Speaker 2: We tell you over and over on this to test

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Speaker 2: all things, hold fast to that which is true. Yes,

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Speaker 2: this show included always always. Test. Doesn't mean that your pastors,

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Speaker 2: that the ministers that people won't make mistakes, But there's

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Speaker 2: a difference between mistakes and outright rebelliousness, or the passing

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Speaker 2: on of heresy or false doctrine persecution. Hebrews twelve three says,

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Speaker 2: for consider him who has endured such hostility by sinners

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Speaker 2: that as your standard. And finally, as Romans one sixteen says,

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Speaker 2: never be ashamed of your faith. Dan, welcome to the

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Speaker 2: Jesus Christ Show. Hi, Dan, how can I help you?

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Speaker 3: Oh it's you. Yes, thank you so much for your show.

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Speaker 2: Oh you're welcome. I'm glad that you listen.

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Speaker 3: Listen every week. And I'm trying to really term this

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Speaker 3: question legalism versus license. That legalism kept me out of

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Speaker 3: the faith, and then it was grace that got me in.

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Speaker 3: But I have to be careful because I find it

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Speaker 3: a fine line between the two. Yes, and I wondering

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Speaker 3: if you could talk about that.

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Speaker 2: Sure. Well, first of all, a Christian is bound by love,

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Speaker 2: not law. So it's one of those things that, yeah,

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Speaker 2: if you are in love with somebody and you marry them,

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Speaker 2: you very rarely hear vows that say, and because you

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Speaker 2: love me, you will not punch me in the face.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of assumed that if you love someone, you're

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Speaker 2: not going to punch them in the face. Correct, right, Okay,

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Speaker 2: So there doesn't always need to be a law for things.

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Speaker 2: There can be liberty in things without having to specify

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Speaker 2: certain laws because you should know better via love. Love

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Speaker 2: things in First Corinthians that talk about love, there's no

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Speaker 2: that is hard for non believers to wrap their head

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Speaker 2: around is the liberty in Christianity, because the first thing is, well,

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Speaker 2: what are you going to do with that liberty? Galatians

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Speaker 2: five point thirteen makes it clear, for you were called

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Speaker 2: to freedom, brothers only, do not use your freedom as

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Speaker 2: an opportunity for the flesh, but through love, serve one another.

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Speaker 2: So the freedom that Christians have is similar to the

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Speaker 2: should not impede on someone else's freedom. So even in scripture,

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Speaker 2: there were times where there were some believers that ate

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Speaker 2: in you know, on Timothy chapter four, it talks about

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Speaker 2: about false teachers. Now, how there are false teachers who

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Speaker 2: to verse four there for everything created by God as good,

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Speaker 2: in gratitude. So there's a lot of talk about the

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Speaker 2: but really it is you having the freedom under the

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Speaker 2: the guise of God's will. So is there legalism is

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Speaker 2: more like the law. It's actually what I was fighting

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Speaker 2: I came to fulfill it. You remember that question in scripture,

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Speaker 2: I said, I did not come to abolish, I came

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Speaker 2: to fulfill. There's a difference. So it's not that the

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Speaker 2: laws have gone by the wayside. They're still important. The

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Speaker 2: Ten Commandments, any commandment throughout Scripture, still important. But understand

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Speaker 2: that the application of them really are whittled down to

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Speaker 2: the twos that I ended up stating, which all focus

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Speaker 2: love for God. Brian, Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.

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Speaker 2: I'm well. How are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing well?

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Speaker 3: Thank you?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just having a recent conversation debate with

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Speaker 2: It's thou shalt not murder. The word rotsha in Hebrew

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Speaker 2: So if you go to the actual root of the

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Speaker 2: killing of the innocent. That's why there's different words for murderers. Well,

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Speaker 2: if you follow cases Brian, you'll see that when somebody

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Speaker 2: Whereas you could hit somebody in a car accidentally, or

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Speaker 2: But it's okay to defend yourself. It's cay to to

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Speaker 2: Kfi AM six forty on demand,