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Speaker 2: They posed it as a question mark, like Ron Burgundy.

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Speaker 1: Right, Well, we only saw it from one source, so

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Speaker 2: Yeah, rather young as far as old folks go. Seventy

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Speaker 2: once really young. She's also one of those rare celebrities

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Speaker 2: us originally from the Christopher Guest movies Right and Home Alone,

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Speaker 2: Right? Yeah? In going forward, it's going to be sort

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Speaker 2: We've had some good stuff that has been failed by

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Speaker 1: bring you Friendship, wonder Man.

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Speaker 2: I'm Wonder Mac. Today. Oh, we are discussing the fourteenth

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Speaker 1: wonder Man, I'm gonna ask you right now top of

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Speaker 2: In Boston's own Goo. Before we get to the Gauntlet

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Speaker 2: and spoilers. I think it's really important that I have

436
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Speaker 2: lower expectations going into things, because I loved going into

437
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Speaker 2: this not knowing the character, not having any expectations, just

438
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Speaker 2: hoping it would be decent, and when most of the

439
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 2: time when you go into something like that, you come

440
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Speaker 2: away impressed. Episode four, Doorman is fucking fantastic. It's so

441
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Speaker 2: good because most of the time, and we've seen this

442
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Speaker 2: in X amount of TV shows, when you have a

443
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Speaker 2: story building, building and you get the rising action, and

444
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 2: then they take you out of the story with a

445
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 2: random episode, either for a backdoor pilot or in this instance,

446
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 2: explaining life.

447
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,920
Speaker 1: Thought to go shrimping on a random planet.

448
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 2: It's usually bothersome and annoying. But this roped you right

449
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 2: in immediately. I loved it. Well.

450
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Speaker 1: So when you first told me about it, my first

451
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Speaker 1: my idea, My first thought went to community where once

452
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 1: or twice a season they would have something where you

453
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 1: would say, is this cannon? Does the paintball episode count?

454
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 1: Does this weird Dungeons and Dragons episode count? Does the

455
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Speaker 1: zombie Halloween count? So they would do these random things.

456
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Speaker 1: My name is Earl would also always do this too.

457
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Speaker 1: I didn't like it as much on my name as Earl.

458
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 1: It was creative, but I'm like, let's just get back

459
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Speaker 1: to the list.

460
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Speaker 2: Also, I'd like to reiterate this being a Marvel Spotlight

461
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,359
Speaker 2: production means that the studio had no faith this was

462
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Speaker 2: going to be good or find its audience. So I'm

463
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Speaker 2: happy it did, and I'm happy and it's doing well,

464
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,920
Speaker 2: and once again them not forcing this show down our

465
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 2: throats in just letting us watch it if we feel

466
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Speaker 2: like it is polar opposite to act.

467
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Speaker 1: That's actually the weird they were. Watch it if you

468
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Speaker 1: feel like it.

469
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Speaker 2: And then finally go, I have a question or questions

470
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Speaker 2: about his power because once again I don't know fucking

471
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,400
Speaker 2: thing about wonder Man, and they don't explain it either

472
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Speaker 2: in the show, which was fine.

473
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Speaker 1: I don't know.

474
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 2: So his power is like harnessing ionic energy? Sure? Can

475
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Speaker 2: he heal himself? Can he not get hurt? I mean,

476
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 2: we get the backstory about the fire, he's not hurt all.

477
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Speaker 2: I don't know what he can or can't do.

478
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Speaker 1: But also I thought it points and it was shown

479
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 1: to not be the case. Is I thought he had

480
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Speaker 1: no control over it, and it was really more of

481
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Speaker 1: when the anxiety or not anger per se, But when

482
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 1: things really built up in him, when he started to

483
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Speaker 1: lose control, that's when it would come too.

484
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

485
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Speaker 1: But then there's a scene or two where he is

486
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Speaker 1: able to control it.

487
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Speaker 2: Yeah. So thematically you've seen that before. Write a hero

488
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Speaker 2: or a villain letting emotions get the best of them,

489
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 2: and that ultimately you know, has their powers pop, but

490
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Speaker 2: it does feel like he definitely has control most of

491
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Speaker 2: the time because he's actively not using them. And then

492
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 2: obviously we see because he's an actor, a couple.

493
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Speaker 1: Scenes where he because he's an actor.

494
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Speaker 2: When he's not upset. So yeah, he's obviously still harnessing

495
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Speaker 2: his powers because he's not really using him getting a

496
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Speaker 2: chance to hone them. But yeah, there was there was

497
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Speaker 2: quite a bit of.

498
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Speaker 1: That shall we do the Gauntlet, let's do it fun factor.

499
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Speaker 1: It's the main duo on the screen.

500
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Speaker 2: The Buddy Cup you know, bromance sort of thing here between. Yeah, yeah,

501
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 2: and Ben Kingsley is great. The characters, you know are

502
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 2: I was so surprised and like Trevor Slattery. Yeah, it

503
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,639
Speaker 2: was funny seeing him pop up again and Shang Xi like,

504
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Speaker 2: I don't think I wanted Trevor Slattery, and we got

505
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Speaker 2: a lot of them and I loved it.

506
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Speaker 1: I laughed every time when someone said, wait, aren't you

507
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Speaker 1: The Mandarin.

508
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Speaker 2: Was the setup when they go into the Tremoy Boy's

509
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Speaker 2: house and Simon comes up with this whole law and

510
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 2: order plan and they're like, wait, you're the mannering, aren't you?

511
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 2: And they're like I guess that's right off the one

512
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Speaker 2: does also.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think Marvel knows this is that you

514
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Speaker 1: can say something that's only kind of funny, but when

515
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 1: you say it with that specific British accent, it makes

516
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Speaker 1: it twenty percent funnier.

517
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I also really liked that Simon was

518
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 2: such a big fan of like movies and television that

519
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 2: it basically is how he would react to stuff. He

520
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,640
Speaker 2: would just reference stuff he's seen, so that was fun too.

521
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Speaker 1: I think that also gets into how much of an

522
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 1: outcast he is and how movies and the mother even

523
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,160
Speaker 1: talks about this of how he didn't have any friends,

524
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Speaker 1: and movies and television mainly movies is like those were

525
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Speaker 1: his friends. That's who he was able to connect to,

526
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Speaker 1: and that's how he then when speaking to someone else

527
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Speaker 1: in the real world. Is this is all I know?

528
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, exactly.

529
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Speaker 1: Satisfactor, the final episode does something that's all a bit weird,

530
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Speaker 1: isn't it? But I like it because the character that

531
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: he's trying to play this entire series is about redemption

532
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 1: and doing the right thing.

533
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

534
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, it does play with that.

535
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 2: There's something specifically satisfying with Trevor Slattery that happens that

536
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 2: I really really liked, and then in the finale you

537
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,400
Speaker 2: get obviously the end that was like more of a fun,

538
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 2: satisfying type of thing.

539
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Speaker 1: Borometer. I don't think so, because even getting into the

540
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 1: first episode or so, you see the overthinking version of

541
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Speaker 1: Simon that really helps flesh out what we see moving forward.

542
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Speaker 1: So I don't even think getting into the story was boring.

543
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 2: The pacing is great, and because the episodes are max.

544
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Speaker 2: Thirty thirty five minutes, you just don't have a chance

545
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 2: to even feel the bore. And the chemistry between the

546
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 2: two is so great that the tit for tat, the

547
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 2: ping pong, the tennis match they're having on screen keeps you,

548
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 2: you know, engage Halloween. Will this wane over time?

549
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 1: Yeah?

550
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 2: Sure, probably right, probably, you know, if it doesn't have

551
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 2: any ramifications. It was a nice one off viewing, but

552
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 2: yeah probably.

553
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Speaker 1: Aw Quater World, I would say it's better than nineteen

554
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Speaker 1: ninety five Water World.

555
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 2: And also tying into Aquaman.

556
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 1: With better than Aquaman. It is certainly better the mission

557
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 1: to come aboard on the first ten minutes of Aquaman,

558
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: Rule Pants, ten City Excite bike Mania. What got you

559
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,199
Speaker 1: going in this show? Uh?

560
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 2: This is spoilery ish, so I'll save it, but okay,

561
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 2: the beginning of the finale episode, the beginning of episode eight,

562
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 2: we get a reveal with Trevor Slattery that I thought

563
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 2: was awesome, super super cool and it loved. I loved

564
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 2: seeing him do that.

565
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: I would say that would be the only like true

566
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 1: peak of the show, because I don't it's a nice

567
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: it's a nice valley.

568
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 2: It doesn't necessarily crush a high high, but it's so

569
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 2: consistently good it didn't really need to.

570
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Speaker 1: I suppose plemonade Jesse Plemmon's pops on the screen to

571
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 1: think of a new name for this soon, because the

572
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: man is a super star. The man is just Yes,

573
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: Jesse Plemmons makes everything better. Who in a small role

574
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: on this show did their plemonade?

575
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 2: Byron Bauers in his one episode as Damar Dorman Davis

576
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 2: is great and sells you on the emotion and they

577
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 2: tell that story of why Hollywood is the way it

578
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 2: is with that and the Josh gadd stuff, and I

579
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 2: thought it was phenomenal.

580
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Speaker 1: I mean, you mentioned Josh Gadd. I was never really

581
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: a gad guy, and after this episode, I kinda kind

582
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 1: of like Josh.

583
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 2: Gadd gad making fun of dad is good.

584
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 1: What I really liked. I think the really the emotional

585
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: rock of this show is when they would go back

586
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 1: to the scenes of the young Simon with his father.

587
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: There's only two or three, but it was his father

588
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: really understanding him and you know he's different, so he

589
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 1: doesn't fit in. I really love the scene of them

590
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 1: dropping off the brother and saying, hey, you're you're sick, right,

591
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: What do you mean that's a bad cough you have?

592
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 1: It's the relationship between the father and son. Yeah, and

593
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 1: bringing him, bringing him to the movie that he truly

594
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: connects with and the father full support of him of like, no,

595
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: you weren't just good in your play because like I

596
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 1: think you know you're my kid. I truly believe in you.

597
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 1: And those two or three scenes I thought really set

598
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 1: into like why Simon is still doing this? Yeah, for sure,

599
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 1: I love those scenes.

600
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 2: It gives proper motivation and good background, and those little

601
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 2: scenes in this season of television, if we do see

602
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 2: Simon Williams again, really makes you want to root for

603
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 2: him as a fan, Like there are many characters we've

604
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 2: been introduced to that you just know and like because

605
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 2: of Colic Books or whatever, this we actually like because

606
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 2: of what we saw.

607
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Speaker 1: Let's go to Max's Credit Union and I'll jump on

608
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 1: this one first, destined Daniel crettin Yeah, Yeah, I thought

609
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 1: I really loved it. I thought the pacing of the

610
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,479
Speaker 1: show was great. I love the fact that it's a

611
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: world builder but not necessarily super important, and I think

612
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: that could be what we're looking at with Spider Man.

613
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 2: Now, I have to give it. Like deston Daniel Kreton,

614
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 2: I would say I probably liked going into this dude.

615
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 2: Sui yeah ya Abdulah Mateen the second didn't have a

616
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 2: strong opinion on either way. Didn't wouldn't say I necessarily

617
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 2: liked him. And after this season television, I'm like, this

618
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 2: guy's a fucking man Like he's so good, He's so

619
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 2: good in this one role that I'm probably gonna like

620
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 2: this dude forever.

621
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Speaker 1: For those of you tarty to the Mac and Goop party,

622
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 1: we rate everything on a forty hot dog rating system.

623
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: Mac I have already I think we've both already gushed.

624
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that this is necessarily the best thing

625
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: that Marvel has given us, let alone the best thing

626
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: that Marvel has given us as a television show. I'm

627
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 1: still gonna look at Loki season one. I'm still gonna

628
00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: go with the WandaVision. But this is up the especially

629
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: with a character that we didn't know much about, and

630
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 1: moving forward really might not matter outside of a mention

631
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: or two. He might never appear again, and that's absolutely

632
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 1: fine with me because this tight story that we got

633
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: I had a really fun time with. I had some laughs.

634
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 1: I thought that this was a show that you don't

635
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: need to be a fan of this genre to enjoy.

636
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: It's just, you know, his power is a heightened version

637
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: of stuff that we deal with every day. You know,

638
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: we all get angry, we all have anxiety. His just

639
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 1: comes out in you know, he's got this power that

640
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: comes out of it. Yeah, right, thirty five hot talks, Wow,

641
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Speaker 1: gool Yeah.

642
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 2: You and I just like fucking power line. I legitimately,

643
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 2: I thought long and hard. I don't think there's anything

644
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 2: in this show I would have changed now. It doesn't

645
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 2: make it a perfect show, because I think going into

646
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 2: it it was limited as to how good it could be.

647
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 2: I think it's as good as it could have possibly been.

648
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 2: Going in, I would have said best case for the

649
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 2: show was like probably like thirty six hot Dogs, thirty

650
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 2: five hot Dogs, thirty four hot Dogs, that range, because

651
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 2: we knew probably wasn't gonna matter. But it's so good

652
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 2: that I hope it matters, and I think I have

653
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 2: it so in a tier of its own at the

654
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Speaker 2: top of the MCU television stuff. I've got Loki Season one,

655
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 2: then in a tier of its own, second clearly behind that,

656
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 2: but I still think clearly better than everything else is Hawkeye.

657
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 2: And then I have like a muddied middle of Miss

658
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 2: Marvel WandaVision, Loki Season two, Daredevil, Born Again, Agatha All Along,

659
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,959
Speaker 2: and Iron Hot I think this is better than all

660
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 2: of those. I think this is a border lying great

661
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 2: season of television. So to me, that's like thirty five

662
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 2: thirty six hot Dogs. I gave Hawkeye thirty five, and

663
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 2: I don't think I think I like Hawkeye a tad more,

664
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 2: a little more satisfying stuff there, so I'll give it

665
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 2: thirty five. I think it's third best of the fourteen

666
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,239
Speaker 2: seasons of live action Marvel television we've gotten, but it's

667
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 2: in that second tier with Hawkeye.

668
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 1: I would have it on my Mount Rushmore. I'd probably

669
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 1: say so. Daredevil, I also really enjoyed. But it's a

670
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: lot of the stuff that we've already seen, so this

671
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 1: is something that they're kind of taking a chance with

672
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 1: and I appreciate that.

673
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, for sure. It's just such a such

674
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 2: a pleasant surprise.

675
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: Shall we spoil spiler spiler spoilers? I truly appreciate. And

676
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: this is at that house in episode six. I want

677
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 1: to say, uh, there is a great Stevie Nicks cocaine

678
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:33,439
Speaker 1: up the butt joke.

679
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 2: It's episode five. Yeah, so they finally get into the

680
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 2: house to help the scooter boy who has the footage,

681
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 2: and they're making Chamoy candy, which has become very popular

682
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 2: on like TikTok and whatnot. And they naturally as too

683
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 2: old to assume they're drugs and making drugs. So that

684
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 2: was pretty funny. And yeah, Trevor makes a great Stevie

685
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 2: Nicks joke.

686
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: I'm mark excited and Steve Nis getting cocaine blown up

687
00:34:58,600 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: a bum.

688
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 2: I just want to talk about the doorband stuff now

689
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:06,240
Speaker 2: that it's spoiler full. Ding Dong killed me. Perfect dumb

690
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 2: catchphrase for a cat.

691
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: Should be saying knock knock.

692
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:14,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, his fans are called door knobs. Unbelievable. Uh, there's

693
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 2: a reference where he gets his little goo power from

694
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 2: was under a rocks and dumpster, which apparently was in

695
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 2: the Cloak and Dagger show as well. Josh Gadd obviously

696
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 2: the cash Grab movie Cash Grab.

697
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 1: Okay, so Josh Gadd in this, I want to give

698
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: complete credit. So Josh Gadd is first off, Max is acting,

699
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: but also is at a club doing a club remix

700
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 1: of the Oloff in the Summer song.

701
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's what it was. That's what yeah, yeah,

702
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 2: what do ins?

703
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 1: And while in there, Now keep in mind, I'm gonna

704
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 1: explain this to you, real simple man, because you're a

705
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: simple man. Oloff is a snowman. Right while in the club,

706
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 1: it catches on fire.

707
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 2: Look at that.

708
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: So I'm thinking to myself, are they gonna Josh Gadd

709
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: the Snowman and his Disney property have him die in

710
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: a fire?

711
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 2: They didn't, But gout, I think, I mean he's missing

712
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 2: right now. He's a missing person because he just disappears

713
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 2: in whatever void that Doorman kind of connects to. And

714
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 2: I also felt like you talked it was a little

715
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 2: maybe two inside baseball with acting in studio stuff. They

716
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 2: also we get a little bit of that depiction of

717
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 2: like a one hit wonder character too with.

718
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: Those Like I said, so that's I think season four

719
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 1: of The Simpsons, Bart becomes famous. He's on the Krusty Show.

720
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: He knocks something over. I didn't do it. So after that,

721
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: the entire episode is everyone like, oh, I didn't do it.

722
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: I didn't do what. He keeps on saying it, and

723
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: then at a certain point everyone's like, this is old this,

724
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 1: We're sick of this. And then he tries another catchphrase,

725
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 1: and then he is cast aside forever, and then you know.

726
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 2: It shows him being cast as the same role in movies,

727
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 2: television hosting, Like he gets pigeonholed.

728
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: Even to a certain point, and I feel like this

729
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 1: is a nod to The Simpsons. On that episode, Bart

730
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,720
Speaker 1: goes on the Conan O'Brien show and he's like, well, Conan,

731
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 1: I'm more than just a catch phrase. I feel like

732
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 1: they said that exact same line during that talk show

733
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 1: that the doorman was, oh yeah, that.

734
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 2: He's got the skull doing that that scene.

735
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: And then Conan's like, just say the line. And then

736
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: Bart tries to dance and Conan's like, only I may dance, and.

737
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:22,760
Speaker 2: This whole episode stands as proving ground to the dodc's

738
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 2: stance of banning powers from Hollywood. That's all. That's what

739
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 2: this episode stood for. And it did such a good

740
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 2: job because you're like, oh, this is kind of dumb

741
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:32,760
Speaker 2: that they banned powers, and then you watch the episode

742
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 2: you're like, I get it makes sense.

743
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: I also really laughed at so when the Doorman first

744
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: said go through me, and the woman's like, go into you.

745
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 1: I'm not going into you, and then Josh Gad steps

746
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: in the man said go through him. It was a

747
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 1: good line, good delivery. I had good time with that.

748
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 2: So speaking, I don't know if we'll ever see Doorman again,

749
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 2: but wonder Man Simon Williams at the end goes in.

750
00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 2: So in episode eight, Trevor Slattery takes the Mandarin Mandel

751
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:06,919
Speaker 2: mantle and claims the explosion on the set, and he's

752
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:10,280
Speaker 2: in characters satisfying.

753
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: The explosion was his fault.

754
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 2: Yes, emotionally. Emotionally yeah, because we find Simon finally finds

755
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 2: out with when sitting down with Kathy Friedman that Trevor

756
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 2: has been playing him the whole time and he's been

757
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 2: an agent for the d d C, which also what

758
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 2: causes that.

759
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,879
Speaker 1: Slattery also knew what he was capable of and he

760
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 1: pretty much set that bomb off in So while not

761
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: the Mandarin, Slattery did do that.

762
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he feels the guilt for it. And ultimately

763
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 2: a big part of the magic of this show is

764
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 2: Trevor finding out he fucking loves Simon during the season

765
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 2: and turning against the d O DC and that's that

766
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,320
Speaker 2: was pretty satisfying. There was also a couple of notes.

767
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 2: Before Simon officially meets Kathy Friedman, they throw a couple

768
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 2: of celebrities out there. Glenn Howardon was one of them.

769
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 2: She wrote like a hit piece because the way he

770
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 2: ate his arugul o salad or something like that, and

771
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 2: he's the.

772
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: Most charming man in Hollywood. Yeah, which I would assume

773
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: that has to do with So Glenn Howarden was the

774
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 1: runner up to be star Lord. Okay, so maybe that's

775
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: just like throwing him something. Now he's in this universe.

776
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 2: One of my favorite bits that you didn't think it

777
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 2: was gonna come back but mattered Joe Pantoliano playing himself

778
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 2: and ultimately like backstabbed Trevor Slattery twenty thirty years ago.

779
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 2: And then when he gets Recash as Barnaby. That reveal

780
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 2: fucking killed me. I loved that. That was great, and

781
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 2: he is He's good at playing like a slimy character always,

782
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 2: so I loved his little tidbit in here. Yeah. The

783
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 2: question I have for you do you think we see

784
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 2: Simon Williams again?

785
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: I don't know where you use him, man, I know.

786
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 2: So that's the second question is like, what could this

787
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 2: have set up or lead into. I don't really know.

788
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 1: Oh guy, So I think this plays well into the

789
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 1: future of if you're mentioning something in Hollywood or whatever

790
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: it is, you just reference him.

791
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, true. All right, run through the episodes.

792
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 1: Okay, really quick. So we get the first stup and

793
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 1: that really does show off the overthinking that Simon does.

794
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,919
Speaker 1: He is on the set of American Horror Story and

795
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 1: while trying to create this character backstory, Hey, it's his

796
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 1: last day on the set.

797
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's He's got one line and he's trying to

798
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 2: make it more than it is. They ultimately cut him

799
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 2: and then he runs into Trevor Slattery. We find out

800
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 2: intentionally at a screening of Midnight Cowboy, which is a

801
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 2: nice you know, like nod to some old time Hollywood stuff.

802
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 2: Episode two is when he and Trevor are trying to

803
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 2: shoot you the little tape so that Trevor so that

804
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 2: Simon can get in on the audition. And this is

805
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 2: where like the Buddy Cop sort of Yin Yang drama

806
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 2: starts happening. It exists for basically the rest of the season,

807
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 2: which is great. Episode three is Pacoima, Simon's mom's birthday party,

808
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,240
Speaker 2: and this is where you get that backstory that really

809
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 2: gets you as a viewer behind Simon.

810
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,320
Speaker 1: And then also the stuff with him and his brother.

811
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 2: Episode four is Dorman, which we've already talked about. Episode

812
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 2: five found footage Simon gets caught using his powers to

813
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 2: defend Trevor, the scooter boy, the Chamoy stuff. In episode six,

814
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 2: you get at the end episode five, they get the

815
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 2: callback they go to von Kovac's house. This was probably

816
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 2: the slowest episode, so if you talk barometer, I could

817
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 2: see someone argue this. But you also get the best

818
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 2: scene in the whole season between Trevor and Simon when

819
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 2: Simon completely flubs you know, his audition moment. In there

820
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 2: they go outside and Trevor empowers Simon to be who

821
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 2: he can be, and it was really great and really good.

822
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 2: They ultimately get cast in the movie because of this.

823
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: That also shows itself, I believe in the final or

824
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 1: the seventh episode, when he is getting worked up and

825
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: he can't bring himself down and it's Trevor that's able

826
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: to really talk him down and go through those breathing exercises.

827
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 2: There's also a great fake out in episode six at

828
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 2: von Kovac House when he punches the dude straight to

829
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 2: the face.

830
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 1: I was like, oh shit, I kind of wish it

831
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 1: was real.

832
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,760
Speaker 2: I'd same same, It would have been a different outcome

833
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:09,760
Speaker 2: for the rest of the season.

834
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: Because I always did that.

835
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

836
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: I thought at first it was some kind of a

837
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 1: weird special effect that they had planned on, and then

838
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: it was real. But then it wasn't.

839
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 2: Yeah that it was all a day dream. Yeah, but

840
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 2: that was that was a cool, little many fake aha.

841
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 2: Episode seven, we get the interview with Kathy Friedman. In

842
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 2: the whole time, you're getting roped in because of the

843
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 2: setup with Simon's family. That shit, someone's gonna, you know,

844
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 2: say something about Simon and it ends up being a

845
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 2: hit piece on Trevor. She starts hammering him. So now

846
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 2: Simon finds out about Trevor that leads to the ionic

847
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 2: explosion on the lot. Episode eight opens with Trevor retaking

848
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 2: that Mandarin mantle one last time, claiming responsibility, and then

849
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 2: we also sit in we see the premiere Simon's famous

850
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 2: it's a little bit of like a epilogue, prologue whatever

851
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 2: it's called, whatever the one that comes after is called.

852
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: It's like seven months later.

853
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 2: And then we see Simon, who we think is preparing

854
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 2: for a new role, like method acting sort of thing,

855
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 2: you know, shadowing somewhere.

856
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 1: I will say, though, I kind of knew the whole

857
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 1: time what he was doing.

858
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 2: Okay, it was it was, I mean, the jig was up,

859
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 2: but halfway through, but it originally I didn't.

860
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: I thought they were spending too much time on it

861
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 1: for it not to lead to some kind of a breakout. No,

862
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 1: it's true, because they had talked so many times in

863
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,320
Speaker 1: the show about Slattery breaking out of jail in the past.

864
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so Simon, in the last moment of this

865
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,839
Speaker 2: show breaks Slattery out and just flies away into the sky.

866
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 1: I was foreshadowed early on of like can you Fly.

867
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 2: It's good, really good ending, really good season at television,

868
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 2: and like it's it's good enough, where like if someone

869
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 2: said it was their favorite season of Marvel Television, it

870
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 2: wouldn't even bother me because it was so enjoyable.

871
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's enjoyable, and it's such a great one off,

872
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: and sometimes you need one offs like that. That, like

873
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 1: I said, is something that can be mentioned, but it

874
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily have to matter. So thirty five I'm pretty

875
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Speaker 1: good on.

876
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

877
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: Same, I think if he punched the hole through that

878
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 1: guy's head, I'd be it could have went in a

879
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: different direction.

880
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,720
Speaker 2: So that's the only thing I said at the beginning.

881
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have changed anything about this show. But had

882
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 2: they gone down that route and it did go like

883
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 2: full superhero mode like we get in the final thirty seconds,

884
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 2: starting off with the head punch, would have been a

885
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 2: great leap point.

886
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 1: I don't need full superhero mode. That's not what I

887
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 1: wanted in this. But what I do like is.

888
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 2: That's dif between you and I at the end of WandaVision,

889
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 2: you didn't like the conclusion.

890
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 1: I hated that final episode. Yeah, but what I would

891
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 1: have liked in this is not necessarily break out the

892
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: superhero stuff, but you instead break out him completely losing control.

893
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 2: Well, it would naturally lead to superhero stuff. Before no power.

894
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: Could have been the end of the powerful stuff. It's

895
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 1: now him dealing with the repercussions.

896
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:49,240
Speaker 2: It's just sitting in court.

897
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then Daredevil has to pop in.

898
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 2: There you go?

899
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: Do you even know who else is in this fucking university?

900
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: Comes back Daredevil verse, she held there you go? And

901
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:02,320
Speaker 1: then they do it again. Hell yeah, they watched Bridgerton

902
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:14,399
Speaker 1: and they do it again. Let's get into Max Sack

903
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,240
Speaker 1: and Max sac could be anything. It could be a boat.

904
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 1: And just the other day I was sitting there minding

905
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 1: my own business. Has this ever happened to you?

906
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 2: Has this ever happened to you?

907
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 1: And you know, someone a coworker sends you a Facebook

908
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: message saying, hey goo, check this out. It's on Facebook marketplace.

909
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: It is a poster of Nomar Garciapara reading a Harry

910
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 1: Potter book.

911
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've never seen this poster in my life. I

912
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 2: what I do now as an old is I Peru's

913
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 2: Facebook marketplace. Far too often I come across a poster

914
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 2: of Nomar Garctipara relatively close to where Gou is, and

915
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 2: I said, hey, Gou, this might interest.

916
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 1: You, and it did, and I sent a message to

917
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 1: the person. I said, is this still available? Almost an

918
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,439
Speaker 1: immediate yes. I think I'm in. I think I'm good.

919
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

920
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 1: My next question was, so it was listed for thirty dollars?

921
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: Can I have it for twenty? They have not responded. Oh,

922
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 1: so it looks like the fish has fallen off the hook.

923
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 2: So he responded instantly, she and then so she responded instantly.

924
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 2: And you offered twenty dollars if you're hard earned American,

925
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 2: cold hard cash, and they ghosted you, you.

926
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:27,839
Speaker 1: Know what it might be. I feel like they are

927
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 1: a Facebook market veteran and they don't deal with nonsense.

928
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 2: I mean, twenty dollars for a poster that no one

929
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 2: really wants seems like a reasonable offer.

930
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 1: I feel like I just said it on the podcast.

931
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: Everyone is gonna be looking for it on Facebook marketplace

932
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:45,439
Speaker 1: once again. No more Garcia Para reading a Harry Potter book.

933
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've never come across it that image, And like

934
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 2: you and I were so ingrained as baseball fans and

935
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 2: like baseball card fans and that sort of memorabilia and

936
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 2: posters as kids, you would have thought the image would

937
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 2: be familiar to either of us, and it was not

938
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Speaker 2: familiar to me.

939
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Speaker 1: No, let's do this really quick. Mac. Tell me the

940
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: posters that were on your wall as a.

941
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 2: Kid, oh would Fortunately, I was from like a sports

942
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 2: illustrated in like ninety six or ninety seven. I had

943
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 2: this huge life size Karl Malone one. And it turns

944
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 2: out he's a really bad guy. The mailman's really bad.

945
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: Mac would always tell us the school is like, I'm

946
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 1: not like a big basketball fan, but this guy seems

947
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: like a role moe.

948
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 2: I just like what this guy does in real life.

949
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 1: We had to tell him that he played basketball.

950
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 2: Goode. I always wanted a fat head when we were younger,

951
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 2: but they were too expensive. I never got one. To

952
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 2: be honest with you, I don't fully remember all of

953
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 2: the I would cycle through. I would have hang up.

954
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 2: I would like pull stuff out of magazines and put

955
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,320
Speaker 2: it up. But I distinctly remember because it was so large,

956
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,240
Speaker 2: the Karl Malone one I had.

957
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 1: Thank you for asking me. It was Nomar Garciapara. It

958
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 1: was him leading off of a base maybe third base,

959
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: also a Manny Ramirez. He's in the center of the poster.

960
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: It's arounded by like red and blue and he has

961
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,879
Speaker 1: like one leg up ready to swing. The coolest Manny

962
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 1: was the coolest. We like sports, by the way. I

963
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 1: then had Peeder, Martinez, Rayborc, Bobby or all signed. But

964
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: it was the place from Watertown that got busted for

965
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:18,839
Speaker 1: fake signatures.

966
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 2: So that place them all.

967
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: I'd have to get them all redone again. If that's

968
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: the case.

969
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 2: I forgot about that they did get busted. It was

970
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 2: next to It was next to eb Electronics boutique.

971
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: I tried to do a sports illustrated swimsuit model thing

972
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 1: on my wall one time, and my dad had a

973
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 1: talk with me because he's like, hey, come on, and

974
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 1: I said, I did no, No, what else did I have?

975
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 1: I did a red sox O four like with the

976
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: cutouts because I feel like the Boston Globe did this

977
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 1: thing where once a week they would put a mini

978
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: poster in the newspaper, and I collected all of them

979
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 1: and then I hung them all up like that. If

980
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 1: you hear Mark Bellhorn, I had that guy.

981
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 2: Or Fantasy Baseball League is named after him.

982
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 1: So that's what was on my wall growing up. Now

983
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 1: as an adult, though, I have very similar things in

984
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 1: my wall.

985
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 2: I have nothing in my bedroom which I just sleep

986
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 2: in my bedroom. But in my living room I have movies.

987
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 1: You only sleep in your bedroom, No, I just sleep

988
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:19,919
Speaker 1: in the couch sometimes, may I suggest bridgardson.

989
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 2: Good. Here's an interesting dilemma I'll be having when a

990
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 2: loved one moves in. I have movie posters in the

991
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 2: living room. She's not necessarily keen on that. No, that's

992
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 2: not like you get a whole bedroom you can decorate.

993
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:40,760
Speaker 1: I have so in my studio in my office.

994
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 2: Flamed movie posters. By the way, I'm not they're not

995
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:43,439
Speaker 2: just taped up there.

996
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:45,720
Speaker 1: But like, yeah, I have because in the old studio,

997
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 1: when I had a ton of wall space, we had

998
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 1: really nice movie posters up. We had a whole wall

999
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 1: of mini posters. I don't really have any of those

1000
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,320
Speaker 1: mini posters up anymore. I have a very small space

1001
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 1: that I'm able to use now. In my bedroom, I

1002
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,879
Speaker 1: have built French framed thing up. I don't get to

1003
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 1: decide anything else in my house.

1004
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think what's gonna happen is the room I'm

1005
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 2: recording in is in the basement. I have a nice

1006
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 2: little finished basement room down here that behind me has

1007
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 2: reasonable Funko pops. I got Pokemon cards in that corner

1008
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,839
Speaker 2: over there, which you can't see. And I think all

1009
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 2: of my stuff is going to end up down here,

1010
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 2: which I okay.

1011
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 1: With, although I will say that as my son gets older,

1012
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 1: he's pretty much letting me design what he's doing in

1013
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: his room because he thinks I'm cool now. So pretty

1014
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 1: much his room is like a mini version of my office.

1015
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 2: Oh, by the way, speak of Facebook marketplace, I might

1016
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 2: have to list your love seat that's down here on

1017
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 2: Facebook Marketplace in order to get rid of it.

1018
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 1: Can you mention all the stuff that I've done on it?

1019
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:45,919
Speaker 2: Yes?

1020
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 1: Slash Also that mort sat on at one time and

1021
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 1: didn't want to talk to me while on the Only

1022
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 1: Vocal podcast.

1023
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 2: Because one of the ways to make space go when

1024
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 2: two lives are becoming one to take the recliner from upstairs?

1025
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: Do we come one? I need someone I I never

1026
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 1: need love before up want to make love to ye baby.

1027
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:11,439
Speaker 1: I was listening to that song the other day. Don't

1028
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: ask me why it is such a sexual song.

1029
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 2: But Bie Girls were great.

1030
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 1: It's a very sexual song. But it was almost like

1031
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 1: it was written by a middle schooler.

1032
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,760
Speaker 2: Well it was written for middle schoolers.

1033
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: I know, but so like they're saying stuff, but they're

1034
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 1: not really saying anything.

1035
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:31,359
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yes, that's how you do it. Uh

1036
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 2: So I think ultimately I'm gonna have to bring the

1037
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 2: recliner down here to replace the love sea because the

1038
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 2: love seat just takes up too much space. But it

1039
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 2: was great, well it was here.

1040
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:41,319
Speaker 1: Noah, you had it for six months.

1041
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, before I got a real couch, I just had

1042
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 2: a small love seat.

1043
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 1: All right, we have nothing else to talk about. The

1044
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 1: people find us.

1045
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,720
Speaker 2: We already went over fifteen minutes, so you're thirty five commercials.

1046
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: I'm cutting us down to fifty.

1047
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,000
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1051
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Speaker 1: the end of the week for a news dump. Next

1057
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Speaker 1: week to start, technically a news dump, but it's everything

1058
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Speaker 1: but the super Bowl.

1059
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, super bowls this weekend.

1060
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 1: That is this weekend, so we'll do something. And the

1061
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 1: next week telling.

1062
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 2: Us we're not getting the Spider Man trailer at the.

1063
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, Well we'll see about that.

1064
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 2: Well pissed about that.

1065
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 1: I saw on Facebook that DC isn't gonna put out

1066
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 1: a Supergirl trailer because they have no faith in the

1067
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 1: movie because it's gonna suck. And Facebook always tells me

1068
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: stuff that's real.

1069
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:48,359
Speaker 2: Facebook's never been wrong.

1070
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Speaker 1: It's Goosday's I Abuse Kangaroos.

1071
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 2: Taamber Bye.

1072
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Speaker 1: Please flip the cassette over to side B to continue

1073
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Speaker 1: the adventure. Now it's time for girls jumping on trampopolines.