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Speaker 1: Scott flowing back on seven hundred w WELW show. You're streaming,

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Speaker 1: you're on your phone, you.

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Speaker 2: Got devices in the background. Things are going all. Everything's good.

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Speaker 2: You're using all this data. And then one day one

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Speaker 2: of those platforms you're on, or maybe all of them

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Speaker 2: slow down. You get that spinning wheel of frustration. Well,

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Speaker 2: what's going on? This thing sucks? It's broken. No, that's

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Speaker 2: the AI boom. Okay, so we're all on our phone,

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Speaker 2: we're all using stuff. AI comes along puts even more

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Speaker 2: stress on the system. You may not think you're using AI.

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Speaker 2: You're using AI as we speak. So people in Mount

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Speaker 2: orb in Maysville and Butler County and Wilmington for that matter,

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Speaker 2: taking a hard look if they want them in their towns.

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Speaker 2: So the City of Cincinnati is getting very proactive on this,

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Speaker 2: putting a temporary moratorium on new data centers while they

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Speaker 2: do a zoning stead of review. It's not a band,

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Speaker 2: it's just a pause. And she is part of the

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Speaker 2: Housing and Growth Committee, and that would be council Member

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Speaker 2: Mika d Owens and the D stands for data Meka,

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Speaker 2: good morning, how are you.

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Speaker 3: That's the same. Well, that's a good one. That sounds great. Yes,

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Speaker 3: I am doing well. Thank you so much for having

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Speaker 3: me this morning. Very excited to be here.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so obviously major corporations need them, we get pg

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Speaker 2: Kroger fifth or they require data infrastructure we have more demand.

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Speaker 2: People in the city would often talk about the urban

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Speaker 2: areas being a desert for connectivity when it comes to

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Speaker 2: high speed that would help with this thing. So starting

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Speaker 2: with the basics here, city doesn't even have a zoning

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Speaker 2: definition for data centers right now. So has there been

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Speaker 2: any interest from the outside the facilities up to this

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Speaker 2: point and what triggered this need for moratorium in the

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Speaker 2: point where literally you want to vote on this today.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, first of all, I think it's important that

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Speaker 3: we recognize we are in an AI zone similar to

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Speaker 3: I think the Internet, and so what that means that

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Speaker 3: this technology is here, It's on your iPhone, it's everywhere,

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Speaker 3: as you indicated, and so you know, this is not

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Speaker 3: a question of whether or not just going to grow.

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Speaker 3: It's how organizations, companies and cities jurisdictions get ready for

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Speaker 3: this type of technology, revitalization or resolution, whatever you want

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Speaker 3: to call it. And so what this step is is

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Speaker 3: really a pactive step that will help us to one

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Speaker 3: define what data centers are and you know data center

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Speaker 3: centers in terms of being able to run AI. It's all.

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Speaker 3: Also the concern is the industry consumption that it is

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Speaker 3: required to do that. So the first step is, let's

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Speaker 3: pop to define this. Let's look at areas of the

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Speaker 3: city where this might occur. So we're looking at twenty

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Speaker 3: two thousand parcels and what that will do is really

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Speaker 3: healthy administration to get in to one get more educational

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Speaker 3: understanding and create a framework around if somebody actually wants

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Speaker 2: Okay, and that is probably sooner rather than later. Again,

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Speaker 2: a pause, not a ban. But so let's say P

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Speaker 2: Obviously Kroger, you've got there's a need to expand. If

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Speaker 2: they need to expand their data infrastructure during this temporary period,

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Speaker 2: this this moratorium, are they grandfather? Then what do you

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Speaker 2: what do you tell the biggest employers and some of

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Speaker 2: the biggest companies in the world you can't have it.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's going to be a part of the engagement

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Speaker 3: there are different types of data centers. You know, most

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Speaker 3: people probably think of them as some large warehouse off

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Speaker 3: want to recognize with the landscape is. And so that's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, I think that makes sense in

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Speaker 2: the Central Business District obviously, no go. But there's land

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Speaker 2: We'll get to that in a second to power these things,

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Speaker 1: In the data centers.

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Speaker 2: We've got the Ohio River right there, you know, worried

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Speaker 2: but also the people and Cincinnati needs needs that infrastructure

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Speaker 2: when it comes to data and when comes to the

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Speaker 2: And so it's a it's a beautiful fit I think

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Speaker 3: Oh well, absolutely, that is the attraction to the Midwest

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Speaker 3: it is. It is all a part of the changing

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Speaker 3: The Midwest is going to be so attractive because we

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Speaker 3: So just by that, you know, we have got to

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Speaker 3: get ready for folks who are coming to this network region. Yes,

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Speaker 3: our natural water water source is a benefit, but it's

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Speaker 3: a step to say, hey, let's uncover all of this,

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Speaker 3: I think we're putting ourselves in a really great position

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Speaker 3: by saying, hey, let's go ahead and do and overlay

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Speaker 3: And so because right everyone spects to come home and

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Speaker 3: these things that could be incentives to help reduce demands. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know, solar panels and.

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Speaker 4: All of the abolt.

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Speaker 2: Well, now's the time to look at this, and I'm

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Speaker 2: glad you are, Mika Owens. You know, I was just

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Speaker 2: thinking top of my head the Queen's Gate area, lower

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Speaker 2: Price Hill, that area is in need of development, and

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Speaker 2: the question is what to do after the New Brunch

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Speaker 2: bench Bridge corridor projects done. Hell, we haven't started digging

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Speaker 2: of these big plants in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely. I mean Queens Queen's Gate, aliso A Mountains, the

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Speaker 3: considering what happened and what devastated that community. I seventy

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Speaker 3: storing place for black people in this city. You end

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Speaker 3: up migrating in other spaces. We think about the Western

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Speaker 3: it definitely has to include housing and you know, amenities

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Speaker 2: Mika Owen's council person on the Scotsland Show on seven

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Speaker 2: hundred WLWD city trying to fast track a temporary moratorium

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Speaker 2: just a pause data centers coming to the City of

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Speaker 2: But at the same time, I look at Columbus and

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Speaker 2: Columbus is rolling out the red carpet for Meta and

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Speaker 2: Amazon and Google Data. Why are we pumping the brakes

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Speaker 2: If Columbus is moving forward, are we going to get

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Speaker 3: Well? And that's what we don't want, right and so

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Speaker 3: I think what we need to do right now is

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Speaker 3: of us and doing that. We're currently in our code

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Speaker 3: for us to stop recognize what a data center might be,

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Speaker 3: this is a moment of revolution where we cannot be

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Speaker 3: we use this in the at the city, but also

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Speaker 3: by way of attracting new businesses to the signal to

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Speaker 2: Gotcha, gotcha? Mika Owens on the show, where are you

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Speaker 2: at Kroger? What's going on?

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Speaker 1: You checking out?

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Speaker 3: Gosh? I started, I sent so funny. I am at

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Speaker 3: a coffee shop in college tail. You know, a girl

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Speaker 3: do model tacting, but I do want to say Scott

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Speaker 3: that are not even set up with departments like planning

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Speaker 3: certainly we will have to wrestle with and be prepared for.

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Speaker 2: Has the city had or scheduled talks with Duke Energy

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Speaker 2: to see if they are great our infrastructure locally can

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Speaker 2: handle this or is that too.

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Speaker 3: Far out that that's the part of what what will

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Speaker 3: happen over the next three months while you know, the

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Speaker 3: And then you know, as it relates to how do

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Speaker 3: we really coordinate energy and utility usage if someone wants

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Speaker 3: to come here and open a data center, is the.

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Speaker 2: Three months, no question about mick owens, the more times

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Speaker 2: Okay, obviously the city's behind moving forward with a data

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Speaker 3: Well, we ask the administration and in the you know,

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Speaker 1: Well, coffee you're going with this morning at the coffee shop?

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Speaker 1: You like you like a grande. You a big one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well I'm afraid water is gonna shoot out at

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Speaker 1: That's the thing I know, that gag.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's your hook and it works. It works for

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Speaker 2: that thing is. It's awesome and it's good to talk

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Speaker 2: to you, Mika. You have a great day. Okay, thanks again,

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Speaker 2: all right, she's a council member. Mika Owens on the

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Speaker 2: show on seven hunderd WW from easily the loudest coffee

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Speaker 2: And this is an issue that's gonna hit all of

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Speaker 2: and it's something we demand. It's it's hard to vilify

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Speaker 2: we'll keep it at Cincinnata. Christy Samod's here from three CDC.

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Speaker 2: All right, the convention center's open. They got ten point

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Speaker 2: And when are we gonna open things up and also

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Speaker 6: Great?

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Speaker 9: How's life for you?

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Speaker 6: Everything's pretty pretty good.

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Speaker 2: I am enjoyed by I'll tell you what. We're running

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Speaker 9: Same? Please say you know it's bring happiness.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, walking around in a T shirt and shorts, shoveling

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so the rinks still still going until you shut

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Speaker 2: that down. That's even late, I think by your standards

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Speaker 2: if I'm mistaken, But again, that's part of the new

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Speaker 2: Yesterday the big press conference where they announced the name

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Speaker 2: It is now the Donald J. Trump First Financial Bank

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Speaker 9: That's right, right?

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Speaker 2: I just no, First Financial paid a lot of money

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Speaker 9: It's gonna, you know, help with the convention center, and

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Speaker 9: it's it's crazy. The corporate community in Cincinnati and it

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Speaker 2: Yeah, gotcha, And it's awesome because I haven't been in yet,

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Speaker 2: a new center no hotel.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, well, I mean I think you know, if you

441
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Speaker 9: look at the proximity of how many hotels are surrounding

442
00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:06,119
Speaker 9: our convention center, we we have that we have the rooms,

443
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:07,880
Speaker 9: we start to get creative, and I think it's how

444
00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:11,760
Speaker 9: we sell the convention, how we pitch it to different cities,

445
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Speaker 9: on what the our conventions that are bring that other

446
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Speaker 9: cities don't. And I think it's you know, when you

447
00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:21,680
Speaker 9: walk out that door, the amount of you know, restaurants

448
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Speaker 9: that you see that are all locally owned the right

449
00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,840
Speaker 9: outside that doorstep, you know, you're embraced with you know,

450
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Speaker 9: umcry Clasa that ice drink. Now it'll be a new

451
00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,399
Speaker 9: event space. You've got Fifth Streets that's connecting the Fountain Square,

452
00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,919
Speaker 9: so there's a ton of different amenities that you know,

453
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Speaker 9: along with connecting all of these other hotels. I think

454
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Speaker 9: we're totally fine to your point. You know, it'll be

455
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Speaker 9: construction will be complete, you know in Q three and

456
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Speaker 9: twenty twenty eight approximately, but we're selling conventions, you know,

457
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Speaker 9: up until twenty thirty.

458
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And what's a response been from people in conventions

459
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Speaker 2: that you try to a book for them and they're

460
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Speaker 2: aware it's a new convention center, they're excited to come

461
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Speaker 2: to Cincineta, have been there in the past.

462
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Speaker 1: Just what's that relationship like, they're really excited.

463
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Speaker 9: And you know, our friends at Visissippi and Legends Global

464
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Speaker 9: or are going to a ton of different trade shows.

465
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Speaker 9: They're getting in front of all of these people, they're

466
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Speaker 9: inviting them to see the space, and there's a lot

467
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Speaker 9: of excitement. And I think that even you know, the

468
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Speaker 9: amenities within the convention center are you know, incredibly upgraded now,

469
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Speaker 9: but even the exterior when you're walking down Fistreet, when

470
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Speaker 9: you're looking at you know, I was walking the Salvo

471
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Speaker 9: the Salzar the other night and the boat show is

472
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Speaker 9: loading in and you could see everything happening within those walls, and.

473
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Speaker 4: Just the excitement, you know.

474
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Speaker 9: I mean last week we had Fear Fact and just

475
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Speaker 9: all of the different things, all the activity that is

476
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Speaker 9: bringing back to that neighborhood.

477
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Speaker 6: It's it's awesome. Yeah.

478
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Speaker 1: And this may be outside you because you're you're more events.

479
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Speaker 1: I know that, Christy.

480
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Speaker 2: But first, financial span, like ten point one million over

481
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Speaker 2: fifteen years, is some of that money or you mentioned

482
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Speaker 2: going to pay down the debt. If the hotel performs

483
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Speaker 2: better than projected and doesn't need get capital fund support,

484
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Speaker 2: does that money go back into the general fund?

485
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Speaker 1: You know.

486
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Speaker 9: For the hotel that I don't know.

487
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, that's fine because I was learning, like, well,

488
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 2: you know people, I was like, well, what happens to

489
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 2: the hotel doesn't fill up? It sounds like we're going

490
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 2: to have a pretty long waiting list. I mean, just

491
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Speaker 2: I can tell sense the excitement in your voice about

492
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Speaker 2: how many new people or how many bodies and conventions

493
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,679
Speaker 2: are going to come to Cincinnati just for this, And

494
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Speaker 2: I would if that's the case, you're probably going to

495
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,200
Speaker 2: be good for the next ten years or so I'll

496
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 2: be able to pay that debt down sizably. So I

497
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Speaker 2: had not with this project, I'm not worried about it. Well,

498
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Speaker 2: what if it underperforms the economy hits I mean that

499
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Speaker 2: could happen, but an effect everywhere generally. I think when

500
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Speaker 2: you're in the convention business, if you build something new

501
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,919
Speaker 2: and shiny and bright, a lot of people are going

502
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Speaker 2: to want to come check it out.

503
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Speaker 1: Is that true?

504
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Speaker 4: That is?

505
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Speaker 9: And also I mean they've done a really good job

506
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Speaker 9: on the capital stack of diversifying the different funds, so

507
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 9: it's not just one source that needs to be you know,

508
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,119
Speaker 9: it's not just the performance of the hotel. There's a

509
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,959
Speaker 9: lot of different areas that need to succeed, and I

510
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 9: think that that's helped spread the risk.

511
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Speaker 2: Out right, Christy samadrid on the next step downtown, and

512
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 2: that is a brand new show piece hotel next to

513
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 2: the convention center that's not going to be ready for

514
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,639
Speaker 2: another twenty six months roughly before we can start getting

515
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,119
Speaker 2: that connection together. It's not stopping, of course, the people

516
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,640
Speaker 2: booking events at the convention center, but moving forward, it's

517
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:18,920
Speaker 2: going to be a little while before we can get

518
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Speaker 2: that going. I know, Portman Holdings is behind this. They're

519
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Speaker 2: the developer with the hotels. Do they have a what

520
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 2: is their track convention hotels? And I'm sure you're expecting

521
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Speaker 2: them to deliver by the second quarter of twenty twenty eight,

522
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Speaker 2: and there's clauses and everything else to get the work done.

523
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Speaker 1: But have they done other convention projects?

524
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Speaker 10: Yeah?

525
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Speaker 9: Well, and I think that as you know, with our

526
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Speaker 9: partnership with Portman, you know, we will be working hand

527
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Speaker 9: in hand, as you know, managing that project with them,

528
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 9: and so I think that we have a great track

529
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Speaker 9: record on getting projects some time conventions that are being

530
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Speaker 9: one of them, and so we feel really strong that

531
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Speaker 9: it will be complete on time and it'll be at

532
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Speaker 9: the US the hotel, Yeah, and it's a Marriotte property,

533
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Speaker 9: so that's that's great, world class.

534
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 2: And Portman said they're gonna they're gonna buy another downtown

535
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Speaker 2: hotel not yet named, not to be named. Why the

536
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,639
Speaker 2: secrecy behind that and and what's the strategy there if

537
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,160
Speaker 2: you can kind of take us by the curtain.

538
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Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean I think.

539
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,640
Speaker 9: It's just you know, working on the financing, making sure

540
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 9: that everything all the doctor in the role will row

541
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Speaker 9: before we announce that, I think And make sure that

542
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,199
Speaker 9: everything's you know, tied up with a bow, and we

543
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 9: can announce that a strategic plan forward.

544
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Speaker 1: Yeah, because we've got top of my head.

545
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Speaker 2: They've got the ac you've got the moxie, I think

546
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,120
Speaker 2: is their brand as well, the Renaissance. All of those

547
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 2: are Marriot brands and you're adding another one. Are you

548
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Speaker 2: worried about putting all your aids in one basket there

549
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,159
Speaker 2: or are you just afterwards let the market kind of.

550
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Speaker 1: Figure out itself.

551
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Speaker 7: Yeah.

552
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Speaker 9: I think that, you know, Mary has a really strong brand,

553
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 9: and so I think in a lot of cities you

554
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 9: see that, and so we feel really strong about moving

555
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 9: towards this way.

556
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Speaker 2: All right, let's talk at Christy's AMoD a little bit

557
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Speaker 2: about competition. Louisville just open there a new omni hotel

558
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 2: connected to their convention center, and how big I guess

559
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:00,959
Speaker 2: the competition there. You don't want to say that, but

560
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,639
Speaker 2: there's competition. How do you pitch, like meeting planners who

561
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 2: can lock in Louisville versus waiting on Cincinnati and the

562
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 2: hotel in twenty twenty eight, how hard is that to

563
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 2: book shows here?

564
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 1: Yeah?

565
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Speaker 9: I mean again, like I said, I think that that

566
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,959
Speaker 9: our city has a lot to offer on you know

567
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 9: what else the district has. I mean, there's been a

568
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 9: ton of vestiment, there's a lot of movement. I think

569
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Speaker 9: that while we don't have a conventions that are a

570
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 9: proper hotel, that there's a lot of other Belgian whistles.

571
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 9: There's a lot of other hotels that can compile. We

572
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 9: can work together, you know, visit since he has a

573
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Speaker 9: great service team, that they can be the confires for that,

574
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,920
Speaker 9: you know, the client, to make sure that it's a

575
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 9: seamless approach. And so I think that there's some competitive

576
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 9: advantage there.

577
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Speaker 2: All right, so your spend how much does this spend

578
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,679
Speaker 2: on the WEX garage? It's like twenty eight million? Did

579
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Speaker 2: I see that?

580
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 4: Yeah?

581
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 2: Okay, which is about what ten percent of the total

582
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Speaker 2: costs of convention center. Why is it parking garage so expensive?

583
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Speaker 9: I mean, to do it right, I mean I think

584
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Speaker 9: that you know, a lot of people say me myself, you.

585
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:03,640
Speaker 4: Know, we're going into garages.

586
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Speaker 9: A lot of them are dark and dreary. I think

587
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 9: that we want to do it right. We want to

588
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 9: make sure that we renovate this where people want to park.

589
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 5: This will have a.

590
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Speaker 9: Skybridge to the convention Center, and so it will be

591
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 9: a conduit to that for parking, and so really wanting

592
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 9: to make sure that that's done done right.

593
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Speaker 2: So we're gonna it sounds like me, Chris, you're saying

594
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Speaker 2: you're going to build a bougie ass parking garage is

595
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 2: what we're.

596
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 6: Going to do.

597
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Speaker 2: That's pretty cool because normally you're right, they're kind of

598
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 2: dark and dury and it seems like a I don't know,

599
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 2: sometimes you're walking at night and I don't care what

600
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 2: state it is and where it is, but it feels

601
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 2: like you're looking over your shoulder. You're waiting for an

602
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 2: assassin behind there, maybe the guy that you know, deep

603
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 2: threat from the from watergates. So you're going to meet

604
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 2: to have a colessed meeting, a car is going to

605
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 2: come through and whack somebody.

606
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Speaker 1: Generally, parking garage are pretty dreary.

607
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Speaker 9: They are, and you know that was that garage Specifically.

608
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,400
Speaker 9: We're not building a new one, right, we're renovating money, but.

609
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Speaker 4: There's always work costs.

610
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Speaker 9: To that, and so as we're doing improvements to that,

611
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 9: you know there will be valet from the Commntion Center

612
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 9: hotel that will go in that. You know, we are looking.

613
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 4: We're being really.

614
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 9: Mindful of the entry that you know, how do you

615
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 9: enter an exit to make sure that is you know,

616
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 9: user friendly experience and looking all through all of that.

617
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it.

618
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Speaker 2: So each parking spot is going to have its own

619
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Speaker 2: Starbucks and there's probably gonna be like a beer garden

620
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 2: because I know millennials, they can't do anything out of

621
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 2: beer garden, I know exactly.

622
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Speaker 9: And not to mention this, just to say, because I

623
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 9: you're parking is a big, big thing, you know it is.

624
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Speaker 9: We are keeping it open during construction as well, and

625
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Speaker 9: so we wanted to make sure that there's still ample parking.

626
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 9: And so as we're doing this construction project, you know,

627
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 9: we're shifting as needed. And then you know, targeting to

628
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 9: be complete by April twenty six.

629
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's going to feel like Christy some odd The

630
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 2: construction's going on for quite some time around there, and

631
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 2: it's it's functioning right now, but it's hard because you know,

632
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 2: you're putting a hotel in, you just finish a convention center.

633
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Speaker 1: It's ongoing projects for years.

634
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Speaker 2: So you got the outdoor terrace overlooking Fifth Street the

635
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Speaker 2: convention center of the Wex Garage project twenty twenty eight,

636
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Speaker 2: twenty third, twenty nine. You're in you're looking at this thing.

637
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 2: What does that street level experience? What's First Street look

638
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 2: like in the in those years?

639
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 9: Yeah, you know it's gonna look extremely different, especially when

640
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 9: you are coming off that highway. You know, on your

641
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 9: left you see this beautiful new thought, like the new

642
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 9: conventions that are on your right. You're going to have

643
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Speaker 9: the convention that a hotel.

644
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Speaker 4: It's going to be popping, you know.

645
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 9: I mean, there's going to be a bar that overlooks

646
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 9: this street. There's going to be full service restaurant. There's

647
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 9: gonna be a lot of event space. So even if

648
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 9: it's not just convintions that are users, there's going to

649
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 9: be other events that are there, so it will be

650
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 9: incredibly populated. And then you've got this amazing new crush

651
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 9: that it is going to be so boogy that.

652
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Speaker 4: It'll be great.

653
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 9: And then you come on Elk Street Plaza and that's

654
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 9: a whole nother area where you know, it's where the

655
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 9: Money hotel was and now it's a two acre two

656
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 9: and a half acre space that will be activated four conventions.

657
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 9: But if it's not activated by the convention user, we'll

658
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 9: use it as a programming aspect to again just add

659
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Speaker 9: some life to it and get people something to do

660
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Speaker 9: while they're you know, ask convention and they're coming out

661
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 9: of it. And then you come and you know, the

662
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 9: new pay s are just out there, reven cutting yesterday

663
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Speaker 9: with paychecks. And on the ground floor you've got Slight Club,

664
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Speaker 9: which is an often new entertainment concept.

665
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Speaker 4: You got cells Are which is.

666
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Speaker 9: A great new dinting experience, and then you've got I

667
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Speaker 9: Do Headquarters it's above them with more office workers that

668
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 9: are going to be there five days a week, with

669
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Speaker 9: you know, plenty of office than in the Foundry. And

670
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 9: then you follow to Fountain Square. So there's so much

671
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Speaker 9: going on in this district corridor, the Fountain districts, and

672
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Speaker 9: again like as we talk about competitive advantage, how are

673
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Speaker 9: we selling this? This is this is that, this is excitement.

674
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 9: This is the pace that you've seen and you're like, dang,

675
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Speaker 9: I want to come.

676
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Speaker 5: Back to the street.

677
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Speaker 2: Right, yeah, because from Fountain Square was like like an island,

678
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 2: and now you're expanding, right you mentioned the Founder but

679
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 2: also the Sacks building has been rebrided that that's going

680
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 2: to be huge, and then it spills over to the

681
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Speaker 2: convention Center. It's kind of growing out that way as well.

682
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Speaker 2: All in, and let's say we start the new decade,

683
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Speaker 2: Christy Samad twenty thirty coming up quick, quicker, sooner rather

684
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Speaker 2: than later. On the back half of this one, you

685
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 2: start twenty thirty, everything's up and running right for quite

686
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Speaker 2: some time. What are those revenue projections look like? I'm

687
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 2: gonna talk about jobs and tax spase.

688
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, I think that it's a huge opportunity

689
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 9: for sins Anti. I think that, you know, as we

690
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 9: look at then, we have all of this dempity. We've

691
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 9: got more traffic, we have more people falling through. We're

692
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 9: going to see more people moving downtown. We're going to

693
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 9: see more people wanting to move their businesses downtown. So

694
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Speaker 9: it's going to increase significantly.

695
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 2: Okay, I hope so, because I mean, let's face it,

696
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 2: and I'll be critical for a second here, the banks

697
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 2: were supposed to be transformative to the riverfront, and that's

698
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 2: dragged on forever, and it looks like this thing right

699
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 2: now is on track to get done far sooner than that,

700
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 2: and we need something to get go through. Fruition be

701
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Speaker 2: completed so you can move on to the next thing.

702
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Speaker 9: Exactly, and I think that you know, it's through.

703
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Speaker 5: To the mission.

704
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 4: You know, we want to make sure that you.

705
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 9: Know, under our leadership we've been pretty quick to finish projects.

706
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 9: We want to make sure that we're being thorough, we

707
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 9: want to be mindful, we want to be strategic. But

708
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Speaker 9: I think you know, as long as meeting to hit

709
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Speaker 9: those deadlines and continue to think that what's the next step.

710
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 9: And so you know, do you say, was all the

711
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 9: convention Center and Sound District is booming, what's next? You know,

712
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,719
Speaker 9: it's looking at how do we continue to connect and

713
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 9: while the banks will be getting finished, but like let's

714
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 9: look north, how do we can continue to connect to

715
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 9: over the Rhine things that you know, from Seventh Street

716
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 9: to Central Parkway one of those opportunities that again you

717
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 9: can continue to enhance, build on and bring more vibrancy.

718
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Speaker 3: To the urban core.

719
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Speaker 2: Well not only that, but also let's face it, we're starting,

720
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Speaker 2: we have begun the Branch Spence Bridge Corridor project right now,

721
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Speaker 2: and that is going to transform seventy five along that

722
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Speaker 2: whole area of West End, kirk Queen's Gate and then

723
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Speaker 2: back over again. And I'm sure you guys are looking

724
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 2: at Hey, we're growing that way. Let's just keep pushing.

725
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Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I mean it gives us a lot of opportunity.

726
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Speaker 9: There's a lot of exciting things.

727
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Speaker 4: And I think that at a.

728
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Speaker 9: Time where when you look at other cities and you know,

729
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 9: maybe the momentum is not there and there is more

730
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Speaker 9: of an urban spraad. There's things happening we are not.

731
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 9: We are continuing to invest again. It's that corporate community

732
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Speaker 9: aspect and you know the city that all of our

733
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Speaker 9: different partners that are really thing. There's a lot of excitement.

734
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Speaker 6: That's happening now.

735
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Speaker 2: Christy Samad, she's VP of Events, she knows it all.

736
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Speaker 2: Senior vice pro. I'm sorry you got promoted a senior

737
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Speaker 2: vice president.

738
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Speaker 1: Chris, Christy.

739
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Speaker 2: Thanks for coming on the show there, Christy Samad and

740
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Speaker 2: all the best. Thanks for answering some questions this morning.

741
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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me.

742
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, got it.

743
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 2: So we need some good news, right, and yeah, progress

744
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 2: is good news. I think it's it's it's nice to

745
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 2: have something shiny. It's all been nicer to bring people

746
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 2: in from out of town show off our town, right,

747
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,239
Speaker 2: and then they leave their money here and we get

748
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 2: to spend it. So good, so good and they just

749
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 2: got the naming rights done. It's the first financial bank convention.

750
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry the Donald J. Trump First Financial. Sure, Donald J.

751
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 2: Trump First Financial said we're just gonna put her name

752
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 2: on everything.

753
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Speaker 1: Anyway.

754
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 2: iHeartMedia and seven hundred w WT salute Cincinnati's own Procter

755
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 2: and gamble. If you got someone there you'd like for

756
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 2: us to recognize on the air, just textas their name

757
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 2: to five to one, eight eight one and be listening

758
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 2: to the big one, the whole of the red, seven

759
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Speaker 2: hundred w ol the nobody Cincinnati.

760
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Speaker 6: Here we go.

761
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Speaker 2: Slowly, seven hundred WLW Man, What isn't going on these days?

762
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 2: What isn't going on these there is? And you know,

763
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 2: I was often said criminals are stupid, and I think

764
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Speaker 2: that the we'll get to the Nancy Guthrie abduction a second,

765
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 2: because right now, whoever's doing that looks like they're may

766
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 2: be smarter than the average bear. But again, what we

767
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 2: know publicly and what the FBI and authorities know are

768
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 2: two different things. UH could be enacting in arrest as

769
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Speaker 2: we speak. Who knows born that. In just a second,

770
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Speaker 2: I will point out though that here in Cincinnati, we

771
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,760
Speaker 2: had a I don't think there's a substantial haul, almost

772
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 2: two hundred and twenty two thousand dollars stolen from a

773
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Speaker 2: Brinks armored car that was servicing a Kroger on Harrison Avenue.

774
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 2: So the Brinks truck is there, and basically that Brinks

775
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 2: truck is you know, we've seen enough movies, and that

776
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,320
Speaker 2: Brinks truck is a safe on wheels with armed guys

777
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,280
Speaker 2: like in the in the truck itself. So two mass suspects,

778
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 2: one of them of the gun, gets in, They grab

779
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 2: the employees's holstered pistol. Partner takes the cassettes, which are

780
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 2: the big boxes that go into the ATMs. They don't

781
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 2: just sit there and load the cash in. It's taken

782
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 2: somewhere else in the boxes. The cassettes as they were,

783
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 2: are loaded into the ATMs. And so they get away

784
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 2: with it. I mean literally, you had two hundred and

785
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:14,399
Speaker 2: twenty two thousand dollars in your hands, which probably would

786
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 2: have lasted these two knuckleheads easily four or five days.

787
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,919
Speaker 2: The box get away. So they get the getaway car

788
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 2: and a black hooptee. It dies like they're pulling out

789
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 2: of the parking lot with the money in the car

790
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 2: and the car dies. You can't make this up, you know,

791
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 2: if you're planning something like this, and I can't imagine

792
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 2: that you're looking at a brink truck going why don't

793
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 2: we rob that truck right now?

794
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: Now there has to be some thought in it. I

795
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: would think, maybe not. I don't know.

796
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 2: You gotta at least make sure your car works. Car

797
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 2: dies in the parking lot like you forgot to get gas.

798
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 2: So then they take the money to a second vehicle,

799
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Speaker 2: which is a white four F one to fifty pickup truck.

800
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 2: Now there's a lot of I have an F two

801
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Speaker 2: to fifty, so it wasn't me but a white F

802
00:35:58,520 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 2: one fifty.

803
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 1: Lots of them out there.

804
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 2: But they spotted the truck at North Bend police did

805
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 2: they started to chase, they lost visual on it.

806
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: That truck gets a flat tire. They find it in Westwood,

807
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:10,399
Speaker 1: So now.

808
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 2: They bring the canines up and the canine tracks are

809
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 2: sent from the abandoned truck. They find a plastic box

810
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,720
Speaker 2: and some cash along the route, saying well, people generally

811
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 2: leave one hundred dollars bills laying around, and so they

812
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 2: wind up finding the four empty money cassettes and inside

813
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 2: the cassettes were the fingerprints of Cavin Newbolt. Calvin Nubolt,

814
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 2: thirty six years old to bond Hill, was subsequently arrested

815
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 2: by US Marshalls got a cell phone left that in

816
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 2: the disabled vehicle as well, charged with aggravated robbery and

817
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 2: felony stupidity. I believe it's the formal charge. Felony dumb

818
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 2: asid rate is what Calvin is charged with. Like, I mean,

819
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 2: they think it was that close to think about that.

820
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 2: You got two or twenty one granted on the Brink truck,

821
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 2: and I think that'd be the hardest part of the job,

822
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,439
Speaker 2: right is getting into the truck, getting the guards because

823
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,919
Speaker 2: they're trained and they you know they're they're armed as well,

824
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 2: and you're able to overpower the two guards and take

825
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 2: two hundred and twenty one thousand dollars. You'd think at

826
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 2: that point, I that's pretty good. And you had had

827
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 2: a second vehicle ready to go. I don't know if

828
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:20,280
Speaker 2: that second vehicle was an accomplice or maybe the car jacket.

829
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 2: It seems to me, based on the story, is that

830
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 2: it was a second car. So maybe there's a friend

831
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 2: in the area of some idol. But these two nuckles

832
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 2: I mean literally it was. It was almost Bengal like

833
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,760
Speaker 2: in the way that this was the most Bengals criminal

834
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 2: enterprise of all time. You had it won and then

835
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 2: you lost it. You literally grasped the feet from the

836
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 2: jaws of victory. Well good, More dummies off the street,

837
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:46,240
Speaker 2: More dummies off the street. We also have the Savannah

838
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 2: Guthrie cases I mentioned. Welly, now I should say now

839
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 2: I keep saying Savannah's is her mom Nancy. We know

840
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 2: that with you know, ties to local ties here. So

841
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 2: the very latest on that's just want to update, I

842
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 2: don't have anything. Wow, a little bit of new stuff here.

843
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 2: So they found I get and this is after her

844
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 2: latest video she's playing for the family that they want

845
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 2: to give him money. And I guess there's maybe some

846
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 2: light activity in that bitcoin account that they had set up.

847
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 2: But authorities raided a home yesterday just outside of Tucson,

848
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 2: and they thought, okay, well, maybe this is the guy.

849
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 2: A person of interest in the case is what they

850
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 2: call him. It's a person of interest and they subsely

851
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 2: have released this individual. It's about sixty miles away south

852
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 2: of Tucon in a town called Rio Rico, and the

853
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 2: man is only identified as Carlos. He told the man, well,

854
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:32,879
Speaker 2: I hope they get the suspect, because I'm not it.

855
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 2: He told that to the I believe the New York

856
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 2: Times got a hold of this guy, said yeah, well

857
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:37,280
Speaker 2: what happens.

858
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: Apparently he was a he's a delivery driver.

859
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 2: And I think with the case is somebody or maybe

860
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 2: video spotted him in the vicinity and they tracked him

861
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,439
Speaker 2: down to this house and said, well, yeah, good job

862
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 2: checking it out. And they obviously went and searched his

863
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 2: home at or warrant and came away with nothing and

864
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 2: empty handed and released the guy.

865
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Speaker 1: So they got you know.

866
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Speaker 2: And I think the other thing too, is we've seen

867
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Speaker 2: this in the past. Remember the Atlanta Park bomb in

868
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 2: case in the ninety six Olympics, and it made a

869
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 2: really great movie about this, and the security guard that

870
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 2: you know, was falsely accused and it turns out that

871
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 2: he was false skin and by then his reputation was ruined.

872
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 2: And in this day and age where reputations get ruined

873
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,399
Speaker 2: and people get docked quite literally, and Julie Balks can

874
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 2: actually be talking about that coming up as we talk

875
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 2: careers and jobs and stuff. Just how quickly someone can

876
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 2: get the wrong name and just double down on stupid

877
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 2: and ruin your life. That that could have happened in

878
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:27,919
Speaker 2: this case, I mean, it still happened at this case,

879
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 2: but apparently they released him and said, yeah, he's not

880
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,439
Speaker 2: the guy, or just fall up on leads and as

881
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 2: far as we know right now, there's no movement here. Now,

882
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 2: you know, the other element of this thing, too is

883
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 2: what we know could literally fill a thimble. What the

884
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 2: FBI knows is an entirely different thing, because I mean,

885
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 2: think about it. You've got there was a camera on

886
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 2: the outside of the house that they found. You wonder

887
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 2: if that goes anywhere the obviously the ring doorbell and

888
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 2: the account was deactivated, but it goes to show you

889
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 2: in this digital age and this could should show be

890
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 2: sober up a little bit. Is okay, your accounts de activated,

891
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 2: but it's still recording video and so they're able to

892
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 2: go to ring I guess, and get some of this

893
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 2: video that they weren't able to get earlier simply because

894
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 2: it was they called it artifacts or something like that.

895
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 2: But goes to show you, I mean, the camera's always recording.

896
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,720
Speaker 2: Just because you don't have your subscription paid up doesn't

897
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 2: mean it's not working, and what do they do with

898
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 2: that data? Where does all that stuff go? That's pretty sobering,

899
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 2: I think for all of us. And there's actually new

900
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:23,240
Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw.

901
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 1: This or not.

902
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 2: It kind of ties in. There's a Super Bowl commercial

903
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 2: ring doorable. I have a ring doorbll maybe you do too,

904
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:33,800
Speaker 2: And there's a new technology that if your dog is lost, okay,

905
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 2: it uses facial recognition basically, or maybe body recognition or

906
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 2: dog breath recognition to identify the dog and hey, you

907
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 2: upload images I guess maybe a front side profile view,

908
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 2: aerial view, underview of the dog, and you put it

909
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 2: into the algorithm and it will connect. It'll go and

910
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 2: search other ring doorbells in your neighborhood with an a

911
00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 2: radius and is actively looking for your dog. If your

912
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 2: dog walks in front of your neighbor's door, maybe a

913
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 2: few blocks away or whatever street over, the camera is networked.

914
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 2: It recognizes the dog and says, hey, this looks like

915
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 2: you know your dog. It's over here in this particular neighborhood,

916
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 2: which is like, wow, that's pretty cool. My dog gets loose.

917
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 2: But if it could do with a dog, right, it

918
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 2: should be able to do with people as well. And

919
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 2: now we have facial recognition technology available for the home user,

920
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:27,760
Speaker 2: and we've had that for a while. I've got actually

921
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 2: a garage door open a thing that you can have

922
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 2: a setting on it that will recognize the person, let

923
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 2: you know who's at the you know, at the door

924
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 2: or whatever, which is pretty cool but also frightening at

925
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 2: the same time. So if that technoloy is out there

926
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 2: that previously has only been available to those in law enforcement,

927
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 2: one may ask, maybe it makes it easier to get

928
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,399
Speaker 2: this captive. At the same time, it also makes if

929
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 2: you're a you know, if you're not a fan of

930
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 2: the Big Brother TV show, and even less of a

931
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 2: fan of Big Brother and government this has cost for

932
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 2: concern because that's in the private sector obviously, and you

933
00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 2: just wonder the FBI has access to all of the

934
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 2: stuff and even more, how much information they really have

935
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 2: on what they're releasing are two different things. So you know,

936
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 2: you want to feel like, oh my god, it's been

937
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 2: what eleven twelve days now, this poor woman and you know,

938
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 2: what's the state of her.

939
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: Breaking news.

940
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 2: By the way, TMZ has apparently received a note on

941
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 2: the whereabouts of Nancy Guthrie again, this is unsubstantiated too,

942
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,919
Speaker 2: because they've got to confirm. We've seen hoaxes in the past.

943
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 2: Someone is arrested because they falsely sent out a ransom

944
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 2: notes and they had nothing to do with this. But

945
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 2: that person's going to prison for a long time. And

946
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,439
Speaker 2: so TMZ gets a note on Nancy Guthrie and maybe

947
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 2: her whereabouts and hopefully she can prove oc to her family.

948
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 2: But the story now gripping the nation. That's the very

949
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 2: latest we note about this in the bitcoin account. You know,

950
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 2: there's one in the ransom note. Apparently there's a little

951
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 2: activity on as well, and certainly law enforcement is working

952
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 2: diligently to bring her back home safely and repatriate her.

953
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 2: But I can't imagine the family and what they've been

954
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 2: going through for well over a week right now. So

955
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:00,399
Speaker 2: hopefully the FBI is figuring this stuff better than I think.

956
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 2: We talk about government agencies. Hopefully the f beyondr. Keshptel

957
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 2: is doing a much much better job than the FAA

958
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 2: under Sean Duffy. I don't know if you called this

959
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 2: or not. It was kind of a brief story. This

960
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 2: is the shoot first, asked question later part of our

961
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 2: government here. Uh So the FAA earlier this morning, I'm

962
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 2: just about to come in at nine o'clock and they

963
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:28,240
Speaker 2: announced that airspace around El Paso, Texas.

964
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 1: Now you know, you know, you've heard of l Paso.

965
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 1: I know it's on the border.

966
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 2: I'm not quite sure exactly where it, but al pass

967
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 2: it's a big Their sauce is pretty good. L Passo,

968
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 2: old l Passo. Uh, it's going to be close to

969
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:40,879
Speaker 2: the next ten days.

970
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 6: Wait what.

971
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 2: L pass is not that big a city, but big

972
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 2: enough to know what al Passo is. And that's going

973
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 2: to be close for the next ten days because of

974
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 2: what they called special security reasons. So all flights to

975
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 2: and from El Paso, which is an international airport by

976
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 2: the way, is shut down for the first time since

977
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 2: nine eleven for ten days. And just the announcement comes

978
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 2: out just out of the blue from the FAA, and

979
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 2: everyone in the aviation sectors going what the you saw?

980
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 2: You know, Airline stock starts to blip a little bit.

981
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 2: So all flights to and from l Passa are grounded,

982
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 2: commercial cargo, general aviation. The whole airport, the whole field

983
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 2: is shut down. Now I know that there is an

984
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 2: army base there it's called Fort Bliss is in proximity

985
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 2: of Al Paso. It's right there. So about an hour later,

986
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:32,879
Speaker 2: the FAA goes all clear, Wait what they said, there's

987
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 2: no threat to commercial aviation. Everything's back to normal. Now

988
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 2: you shut it down for ten days, and then an

989
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 2: hour later go that you know, we figured it out,

990
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 2: We're good. It's like a fourteen year old kid, apparently

991
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 2: he's in charge of the fa Like, I get their

992
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 2: security threats and you want to err on the side

993
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 2: of caution for sure, one hundred percent. But again it

994
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 2: goes to show for those people have their political ideologies

995
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 2: set in stone that my side's always right, the other

996
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 2: side's always wrong, and anti America regardless to what side

997
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 2: you stand on. And this is simply it's patently felt. The

998
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,839
Speaker 2: problem is, hold on a second. You just shut down,

999
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 2: You announce to the world that you're shutting an airport

1000
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 2: down for ten days, and then an hour later you go,

1001
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 2: never mind my bed. So what really happened, Well, apparently

1002
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 2: and Mexican cartel drones breached the US airspace because it's

1003
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 2: on the border, and so they temporarily closed the airspace

1004
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 2: overall Passo and the Defense Department because well, four plusses

1005
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 2: right there put their anti drones and anti drone systems up.

1006
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 2: They're able to disable the drones. And at the same time,

1007
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 2: I guess they were also that the army was testing

1008
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 2: their anti drone technology. So we're not sure if the

1009
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 2: brief airport closure is related to the presence of drones

1010
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 2: or if it was the technology or what it was,

1011
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 2: but it's pretty clearly a jump to go, hey, maybe

1012
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:52,399
Speaker 2: you know, maybe you want to talk to another branch

1013
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 2: of government to figure out what they're doing. If you

1014
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 2: shut this down because they're testing anti drone technology, which

1015
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 2: is good, especially along the border, which is even better,

1016
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 2: maybe you didn't want to jump out and go I

1017
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 2: was shutting it down for ten days because you're freaking

1018
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 2: people out for no reason in a day and age

1019
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 2: where everyone's freaked out all the time. And the fact

1020
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 2: of the matter is, and I saw this tweet from a

1021
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:16,879
Speaker 2: congressman went from El Paso and said, well, I didn't

1022
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 2: know what was going on, and you know, to act

1023
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 2: like that there's an incursion. A drone incursion is nothing new.

1024
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 2: There have been incursions from Mexico going back to as

1025
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 2: long as drones as existed. So was this something was

1026
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 2: this something unusual or part of the pattern here? So

1027
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 2: there's nothing extraordinary about it, is what she said. Now,

1028
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,359
Speaker 2: at the same time, I look at those comments and go, well,

1029
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 2: you know, if we got Mexican cartel drones over the

1030
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 2: United States, rather than going, ah, what happens all the time,

1031
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 2: no big deal, maybe you want to make it a

1032
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 2: big deal. So the other side of this is, you know,

1033
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,800
Speaker 2: because the administration's doing it, you people going it's no

1034
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 2: big deal, happens all the time. Well, why would you

1035
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 2: be complacent about drones from Mexican cartels flying over airspaces

1036
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 2: and Fort Bliss for them that matter? I mean, yeah,

1037
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 2: I am concerned. I don't know about you, but I

1038
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 2: am concerned about that, you know, putting the political nonsense

1039
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,760
Speaker 2: aside and just using some common dash cut just the dash,

1040
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 2: just the dash of common sense. Here you look in

1041
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 2: and go, well, okay, well we got Mexican cartel drones here,

1042
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,839
Speaker 2: Well we can't have that. I mean, how that's more

1043
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 2: dangerous to me than illegals coming over the border. Most

1044
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 2: of the people crossing the border here just for a

1045
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 2: better life and trying to save their lives in the

1046
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 2: leves of their family make money. You know, there's probably

1047
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 2: some criminal swept up there for sure, but I think

1048
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 2: that's you know, is it overblong. We need to know

1049
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 2: what's coming across the border, for sure. But to me,

1050
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 2: the Mexican cartels find drones over airports and military bases,

1051
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 2: that escalates way above all that other stuff. Would you agree,

1052
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 2: because that is a clear and present danger. They're being

1053
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:50,800
Speaker 2: run by Mexican drug cartels, like legitimately the worst people

1054
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 2: on the face of the world. So good, we have

1055
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 2: the technology knock these things down, but the comms was

1056
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 2: really bad on this, Like why would you just come

1057
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 2: out and blurt out we're shutting down the airspace rots

1058
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 2: an hour later go yeah, you know, never mind, we

1059
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 2: got it like that just and that's part of the

1060
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 2: problem here, is that, you know, there's just so quick,

1061
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 2: shoot from the hip kind of attitude it is. I

1062
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,919
Speaker 2: think that's why collectively as Americans were exhausted because every

1063
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 2: day something like this comes out, you go, it's the

1064
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 2: worst thing in the world, and it's like, go on,

1065
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 2: never mind, And we've got three or four five of

1066
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 2: those plates spinning just like that every single day in

1067
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 2: this country. And it gets it's so exhausting. I'm not

1068
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 2: saying we should not deal with you don't misunderstand me.

1069
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 2: The drones bad thing. I don't accept the fact that

1070
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 2: it's normal to have Mexican drones across our border. That's

1071
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 2: our airspace, especially when you're talking about sensitive targets commercial

1072
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 2: and military aviation. You got to deal with that. But

1073
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 2: just jumping out and going ten days and I go,

1074
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,839
Speaker 2: I never mind. It just it exhausts you, and then

1075
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 2: it also makes you distrustful of our leadership at this time.

1076
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 2: For sure, I'll get a news update and Julie Bouki

1077
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 2: is here. We talk career related stuff, and speaking of

1078
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 2: getting docs, there's a great story involving that, and really

1079
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 2: it's it's kind of hopeless if you're a business, if

1080
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 2: you wind up on the receiving end of the stuff.

1081
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 1: Any We'll get to that just ahead.

1082
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 2: Right after news update, Scott's Loan Show continues on seven

1083
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Speaker 2: hundred w WELWD.

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Speaker 10: Giving you a vocational leg up on everyone else. Here's

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00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,280
Speaker 10: our career Julie Balki.

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Speaker 2: Julie Bouke is here from places unknown in the beautiful Southwest.

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Speaker 1: Good morning, how are you, Jules?

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Speaker 5: Good morning?

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Speaker 4: Just Dandy.

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Speaker 2: Are you on the scene in Tucson as a police

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Speaker 2: look for Nancy Guthrie any ideas?

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00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 4: No, No, I'm in Phoenix. But that is quite an

1093
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Speaker 4: odd story.

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00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: Not odd, frightening is what this is.

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Speaker 4: Founding.

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00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 2: It is in the day and age in which we live,

1097
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 2: of course, with AI and you know, now Crypto and

1098
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 2: all these things. You wonder if they're successful in God,

1099
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 2: you hope they're not successful here. But if they are,

1100
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 2: if this just encourages more people to do what they

1101
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,439
Speaker 2: did with Nancy Guthrie shuddered to think that that's the case.

1102
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 2: But it's probably true because crime criminals are pretty opportunistic

1103
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,919
Speaker 2: if they see an opportunity to do this good, badter

1104
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 2: and different they're going to do in the future.

1105
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I just it's it's so and I know we'really,

1106
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 4: I know we're only getting part of the information to lot,

1107
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:22,320
Speaker 4: but it's it's really something. Man to give me a hope.

1108
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 2: They'll get caught. You only criminals are largely stupid. I

1109
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 2: was just talking in a story here about about these guys.

1110
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,919
Speaker 2: They Robbie Brinks truck here in Cincinnati. They get away

1111
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 2: with almost two hundred and twenty three thousand dollars. They

1112
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Speaker 2: get the cassettes, which, as you know, the money is

1113
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 2: put in a cassette which is a big box that

1114
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 2: then goes into the ATM so you can get your

1115
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 2: money out if your cash money player like you. And

1116
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 2: so they got like four or five cassettes. They steal

1117
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 2: two hundred and twenty three thousand dollars. They get in

1118
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 2: their getaway car, it dies getting out of the parking lot.

1119
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 2: They then get picked up by a four f one

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Speaker 2: fifty that then gets a flat tire. They find the

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Speaker 2: cassettes near the truck and it's got the guy's fingerprints

1122
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 2: all over. Oh god, Oh and he left his cell

1123
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 2: phone and he left his cell phone in the first.

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00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 4: Car that's there.

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Speaker 2: I want to hope that there's a little bit of

1126
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 2: that guy in the People Who Got Nancy Guthrie, because

1127
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 2: you kind of need the stupidity break here.

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Speaker 4: It's like, you know you're watching if you watch a

1129
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 4: dateline and up episode, after a while, you're like, don't

1130
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 4: buy the duct tape and the rope and the garbage

1131
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 4: bags and the shovel all the same.

1132
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, you don't do it everything, don't do it?

1133
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, fingerprints and all that other stuff, and this

1134
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 2: is all has to do a lot of this is

1135
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 2: Nancy Guthri thing technology because of crypto enabling them to

1136
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 2: get money.

1137
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Speaker 6: Uh.

1138
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,439
Speaker 2: But I also look at you know, AI look at data.

1139
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 2: I look at the fact that we live in a

1140
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 2: society now that's all pissed off over a thirteen minute

1141
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 2: free halftime Super Bowl show.

1142
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 1: Uh.

1143
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 2: In course, everyone's out to get everyone else online. And

1144
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:54,399
Speaker 2: I think I brought this up a couple of weeks ago,

1145
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 2: but this guy in Clairemont Connie had to close his

1146
00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:00,800
Speaker 2: furniture store because of a case of stake and identity.

1147
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:05,439
Speaker 4: You see this, yes, yes, absolutely yeah. It started out

1148
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 4: of Clarksville, Tennessee, with a store there called the Furniture Connection,

1149
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:12,240
Speaker 4: and this guy, the guy that owns it, his wife

1150
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 4: posted something really ugly, frankly on social media, and so

1151
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 4: the Keyboard Warriors went after her and by extension, went

1152
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 4: after him because they found out that they have a business.

1153
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 4: I don't know how involved she is in the business,

1154
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 4: but it doesn't matter, because the Keyboard Warriors said, we're

1155
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 4: going to take him down, and they did. And then

1156
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 4: we have this poor guy in Claremont County with the

1157
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 4: furniture store by the same name, who gets splashed by

1158
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 4: this because the keyboard Warriors are insane and it ends

1159
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 4: up costing him his business. He had nothing to do

1160
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 4: with the one. The only thing he had in common

1161
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 4: with the one in Tennessee was the name. And the

1162
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 4: guy in Tennessee he went out there and made this

1163
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 4: public sort of this video saying that was my wife,

1164
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 4: that was not me. I do not agree with her.

1165
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 4: Don't know if he does or not, but that's not

1166
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 4: the point. And so what are we doing here? I

1167
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:10,359
Speaker 4: think the the we we call it docsing, but we

1168
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:15,919
Speaker 4: are in this and are we so unhinged that we're

1169
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 4: going to go after We're not even you know, we're

1170
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 4: going to affect somebody several states away. Had nothing to

1171
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 4: do with this, even if we agree with what happened

1172
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 4: in Tennessee. I mean, it's it's over the top, and

1173
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 4: it's both ways. It's both sides. You know, there's no

1174
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 4: there's no innocent ones here, and it's just I don't know.

1175
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 4: I don't know where it's going to end. And now

1176
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 4: you put AI in there. I watch things on AI

1177
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 4: now and if I look at things online, I can't

1178
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 4: It's like ill look at it and go, is this AI?

1179
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 4: Is it not? When you can make anybody say anything

1180
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 4: you can, and the AA is getting better and better.

1181
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:52,720
Speaker 1: It's hard to trust.

1182
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 2: Go you kind of want to see something, Oh yeah

1183
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 2: it's A and then you think it, well, whatever the's

1184
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 2: AI or not, And that's the images and the like,

1185
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 2: but also any thing. Now, I just you, we don't

1186
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 2: trust anybody anymore, and I think this increases the division

1187
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:06,959
Speaker 2: we have and just adds more fuel to that fire.

1188
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 2: It's like, well, you know, I got it wrong, but

1189
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 2: I don't care because you know, we can't. We can't

1190
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:14,439
Speaker 2: we're wrong anymore. And the real result is this guy

1191
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 2: in Tennessee nothing to do with what's going on in

1192
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:17,760
Speaker 2: Clarmont County.

1193
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 6: He had to have.

1194
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 2: You know, it's furniture stores losing business because of the

1195
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 2: bad online reviews and it's just nasty, hateful comments and

1196
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 2: fake reviews and threats because the person who's doing that

1197
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,320
Speaker 2: doesn't even bother to find out if this is indeed

1198
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,280
Speaker 2: the same place or not, not even the same state.

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Speaker 2: And that is to show you the level of stupidit

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00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 2: that's out there in society today.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's scary, and I don't know. I don't

1202
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 4: know what is going to stop that or change it.

1203
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 4: I think it's sort of the wild West. I mean,

1204
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:50,240
Speaker 4: even when you see something that's even if it's said, okay,

1205
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,360
Speaker 4: you've got to put this is AI generated, you know,

1206
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 4: on everything you put out there, people won't do it.

1207
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 4: We make it. I'll see a thing and they'll think

1208
00:54:56,600 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 4: it doesn't sound like something So and so would say like, eh,

1209
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 4: you know, and I move on, But not everybody. We

1210
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 4: want to believe what supports our position. We want to

1211
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 4: believe what shores up. Yeah. Yeah, and we all follow it.

1212
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:12,840
Speaker 4: I don't care. I don't care who we are, what

1213
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 4: side we're on. We all follow it. And so, you know,

1214
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 4: I talk all the time about when you've got to

1215
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 4: be so careful anything you comment on. I mean I

1216
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 4: see people commenting on stuff with their real names. You

1217
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 4: go back and look, and people people will then I

1218
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:32,319
Speaker 4: don't like what they said. They go back and look,

1219
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 4: they find their social media is their social media accounts.

1220
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 4: They inform their employer, they inform their spouse, they inform

1221
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 4: their neighbors, they inform their church whatever it is, and

1222
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 4: and most of the time like why would you be

1223
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 4: so stupid? As to post that.

1224
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 2: We also just kind of follow what's what's going on?

1225
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 2: A funny, funny story. My wife, my my my wife's

1226
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 2: parents are in their eighties and you know, they don't

1227
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:55,439
Speaker 2: stay up late enough to watch the super Bowl.

1228
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 1: Don't even care what the super Bowl is, but uh,

1229
00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 1: it's talking.

1230
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:00,439
Speaker 2: My wife was talking yesterday and outrage because the super

1231
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 2: Bowl halftime show, and she's, well, did you see it? No,

1232
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 2: but everyone outlie says the worst thing in the history

1233
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 2: of the world, and there should be banned. I'm like,

1234
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 2: now you're complaining about something you didn't even see. And

1235
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 2: I just wonder how many people are like that because

1236
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:14,280
Speaker 2: someone told them or somebody, you know, taking her cue

1237
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 2: from I don't know Republicans for example, outrage about bad Bunny,

1238
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 2: and you know I get emails like well, Ane, The

1239
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:22,840
Speaker 2: first complaint was it wasn't an English we didn't understand.

1240
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 2: The next day it was the follow awords that Bad

1241
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 2: Bunny was saying. Well, if you don't understand, if you

1242
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 2: don't understand the words and your kids don't speak Spanish,

1243
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 2: then you don't know what he said in the first place.

1244
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:33,360
Speaker 1: You can't. But and I get it.

1245
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:35,840
Speaker 2: You know, if bad words are said in Spanish. According

1246
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 2: to the SEC it really doesn't matter. But I'll point

1247
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 2: out that the alternative this was the kid Rock Show,

1248
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 2: and if you see the song he's saying blah blahlah blah.

1249
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 2: If you look at the lyrics of that, they're pretty bad.

1250
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 2: They're pretty offensive lyrics. And also kids should probably shouldn't

1251
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 2: be here about strippers and meth. So, you know, we

1252
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 2: just we feigned this ignorance and we already have our

1253
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 2: views not only made up, but also the people who influence,

1254
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:00,879
Speaker 2: the influencers out there who we look to make their

1255
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 2: minds up when we just spout what they so we

1256
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:03,840
Speaker 2: don't even think for ourselves anymore.

1257
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 4: It's terrible, no, No. And I think too that sometimes

1258
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 4: when we're really frustrated, we're really upset, we're really angry,

1259
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 4: we're really feeling powerless. One of the ways that we

1260
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 4: combat that is by taking on power in ways that

1261
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 4: we feel like we can embrace. And so I might

1262
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 4: feel like my life is out of control, you know,

1263
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 4: it's like my bills are rising, this and this and this.

1264
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 4: I don't nobody listens to me anymore, and so I

1265
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 4: lash out. I mean, just what your kids do? You

1266
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 4: know they'll come home and when they're teenagers, come home

1267
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 4: and complain about something. And I used to say when

1268
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 4: I was in HR, I'd get people coming in and

1269
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 4: complaining about, you know what color the walls were, the

1270
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 4: food and cafeteria, and I think, that's not really what

1271
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 4: you're complaining about. So I think a lot of times

1272
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 4: we direct our anger at things that we that feel safe,

1273
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 4: and when we're behind that screen on that keyboard, we

1274
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 4: feel really anonymous, and we aren't. And so you know,

1275
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 4: I think you've got to just take a pause. Yep,

1276
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 4: do you want to post something? Really think about what's

1277
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 4: the worst thing that can happen after I post this?

1278
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 4: And can I live with this?

1279
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 3: Fair?

1280
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 5: You know?

1281
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 4: Then if you want to post it and post it.

1282
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 2: Speaking of posting stuff, this Pinterest story is just buck wild.

1283
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 2: You want to lay that out real quick. Here is

1284
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 2: really good by the way, Julie Balcaore career shu up

1285
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 2: are talking job related stuff even when it's not on

1286
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 2: the show.

1287
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 1: So the CEO is Bill Ready.

1288
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 2: Bill is the CEO of Pinterest, and he is going

1289
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 2: after staffers because they tracked. They came up with it

1290
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 2: was an app or a tool to track layoffs.

1291
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so I.

1292
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 1: Got an easy solution for it.

1293
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 10: Yeah, I know.

1294
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 4: So this is just, I mean, these of the things

1295
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 4: that make me just say, gosh, I've been around the

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Speaker 4: block too many times at this point, because it's it's

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Speaker 4: just it's the same problems that keep coming up again.

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Speaker 4: So he's mad because his employees came up with an

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Speaker 4: app or a tracking tool to track layoffs in the company.

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Speaker 4: He found out about it, and he lost his ever

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Speaker 4: eleven mind and he called them obstructionist. What you know

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Speaker 4: that it's like the who's the guy in Princess Bride.

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Speaker 4: I do not think that word means what you think

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Speaker 4: it means. It's not that's they're simply tracking what's going on.

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Speaker 4: They're not stopping anything for simply reporting, creating transparency and

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Speaker 4: reporting on what's happening in the company. And this is

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Speaker 4: that CEO arrogance that says, I'm gonna do whatever I want.

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Speaker 4: You clearly see what's happening. And you know, now that

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Speaker 4: we have all these tools and all this technology, the

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Speaker 4: rank and file employees can create transparency where they couldn't

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Speaker 4: in the past. And they're saying, yeah, we're gonna you know,

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Speaker 4: let's let's show what's happening here. And I think if

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Speaker 4: you if you're afraid of transparency as a leader, and

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Speaker 4: obviously you're not going to publish everyone's salaries. There are

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Speaker 4: certain things that have privacy issues. But if you're having

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Speaker 4: layoffs and you really think that people don't see what's

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Speaker 4: going on and aren't talking about it, all they did

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Speaker 4: was go one extra step and put it in create

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Speaker 4: a tool to tract the layoffs, and that just hurt

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Speaker 4: his whittle feeling.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you know, companies expand and contract all

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Speaker 2: the time. No one's putting a side up there because

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Speaker 2: they're hiring. Now when people get let go and get

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Speaker 2: got got as a case, when this contraction, you know,

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Speaker 2: you got to take the lumps along with that. But

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Speaker 2: it's not just pinterest, it's the tech sector is hammer

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Speaker 2: good jobs right now. So you know, sometimes your skin

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Speaker 2: is just I mean, you got to get thicker skin

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Speaker 2: if you're CEO.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right. And you know all the layoffs members

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Speaker 4: that have crat the layoffs or the highest event since

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Speaker 4: January of two than nine right now, and that was

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Speaker 4: bad back then, and so yes, it is more bad

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Speaker 4: news than good news. But if you're going to leave

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Speaker 4: the company. That's part of why you're getting the big

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Speaker 4: bucks is to take this lings and arrows and the

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Speaker 4: dissatisfaction of your people. That's why you're paid well, that's

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Speaker 4: why you get the bonuses. Yes, your job the tenuous,

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Speaker 4: but that's why you're paid so well.

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Speaker 1: Correct.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, and you've got to you can't as a CEO.

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Speaker 4: You can't establish trust with your people through open communications

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Speaker 4: and being willing to answer difficult questions. You know, if

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Speaker 4: you're going to hold that role, you have to be

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Speaker 4: just as well. Look at these are political representatives to

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Speaker 4: go to town halls and they don't like the question,

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Speaker 4: so they leave. Oh yeah, that and genders trust. So

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Speaker 4: this is a part of that response. It's not just

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Speaker 4: the title in the big salery. You have to grow

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Speaker 4: a thick skin and you have to look people in

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Speaker 4: the eye. They may not always like your answers. You

1352
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Speaker 4: make it food, But that's part of holding the top job.

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Speaker 4: That's part of what it is. That's part of the

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Speaker 4: job description.

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Speaker 2: I'll push back a little bit at that CEO or

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Speaker 2: the case of what you're talking about. A politician goes

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Speaker 2: to a town hall, right and they're elected officials. They

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Speaker 2: want no one force them to take this job. They

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Speaker 2: campaigned for this job, so it's a different thing. But

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Speaker 2: by at the same time, you know, you go to

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Speaker 2: town hall and you're like, hey, listen, I know there's

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Speaker 2: you've got questions, there's tough questions, and that person's being vilified.

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Speaker 2: But you know when people are actively booying you and

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Speaker 2: everyone's yelling at the same time and shouting people down,

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Speaker 2: I mean I get leaving at that point. It's like, well,

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Speaker 2: if you want to have a conversation a dialogue, here,

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Speaker 2: I'll talk and then I'll listen to your response and

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Speaker 2: maybe we can come to common ground or we'll just disagree.

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Speaker 1: But I'm here to answer the questions.

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Speaker 2: But if you're gonna behave in a fashion much like

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Speaker 2: the doctor of the Claremont County Furniture store, then you're

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Speaker 2: wasting my time. So I don't blame somebody for walking

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Speaker 2: off the stage at that point. If you're gonna have

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Speaker 2: a respectful conversation, you want to know what I'm thinking.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to tell you, but you yelling at me

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Speaker 2: and drowning me out with noise makers.

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Speaker 1: It's childish.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a way of expressing your dissatisfaction. It is

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Speaker 4: and it is. It is not saying it's appropriate, but

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Speaker 4: it is. It is frustration of not it's the frustration

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Speaker 4: of not being heard and having to get to that

1382
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Speaker 4: point where you're taking to the streets where you're yelling.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it is an expression of frustration that you

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Speaker 4: don't think the normal ways of that you already feel unheard,

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Speaker 4: and we see that everywhere, and it's going to get

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Speaker 4: worse because the younger generations, unlike us older folks, are

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Speaker 4: not afraid, not afraid to express what they think, they believe,

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Speaker 4: they have an opinion that needs to be heard.

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Speaker 2: And because that's how we raise that's how we raise

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Speaker 2: that generation as you were, you know, to not coin

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Speaker 2: a term here, but the snowflake thing is true larger

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Speaker 2: because it's like, we talked to you. You're special and

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Speaker 2: you're different like everybody else, and your what you have,

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Speaker 2: you have you have the ability to be heard, and

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Speaker 2: you want to be seen, and you have agency and

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Speaker 2: all these things. And we lift people up like that.

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Speaker 2: It's like, well that's how they're going to act when

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Speaker 2: they're at alls.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, for sure. There's a lot of stuff that

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Speaker 4: we see with gen Z. I know so many wonderful

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01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 4: younger people work for but there's for sure there is

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Speaker 4: a little bit of the chickens coming home to roost

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01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 4: and from the participation in Trophy generation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's what we raise. You know, you can't blame

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01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 2: them for the way they were raised. And we all

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01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 2: have a hand that dad's our vault, but people don't

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Speaker 2: want to admit that, right. Julie Boucair Career Shup on

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Speaker 2: The Scotsland Show on seven hundred WLW, talking career related

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01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 2: stuff from this case. Yeah, the takeaway if you're if

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Speaker 2: you you know, you don't have to be a CEO,

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Speaker 2: but at the same time, if you run a company,

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Speaker 2: if you're a manager, whatever I think they take away

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01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 2: with the Pinterest guy is you know, there's gonna be

1414
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 2: times where've got to deliver bad news and people are

1415
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 2: going to be hurt, they're gonna be angry, they're going

1416
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 2: to be emotional about it, and you have to deal

1417
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 2: with that. You have to be above the fray and

1418
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:20,840
Speaker 2: deal with that in a calm, collected way and say, listen,

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01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 2: I don't no one likes to lay people off, you know,

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Speaker 2: And if you feel you've got to track the You

1421
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Speaker 2: just you've got to let that go.

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Speaker 1: That's the downside of the job.

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Speaker 4: Yes, it's absolutely part of it, that's right. And if

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Speaker 4: you aren't built for that, fine, then don't take that job. Yeah,

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01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 4: but that's that's why again, that's why. That's part of

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Speaker 4: the reason that people get paid so much more at

1427
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Speaker 4: the higher levels because you're expected, you're more visible, You're

1428
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:51,480
Speaker 4: expected to handle conflict, you're expected to deliver the bad news,

1429
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:54,680
Speaker 4: you're expected to handle difficult situations and issues that arise

1430
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:58,800
Speaker 4: in an eight fun and nobody loves it. But that's

1431
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 4: part of you know, pulling up a big girl and

1432
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 4: big boy pants as a senior leader.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, I've worked for people were the

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01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 2: same thing. It was like they're more worried about what

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01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 2: the opinion of the organization was outside the facility than

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Speaker 2: they were inside. To make well, if you address the

1437
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:14,480
Speaker 2: inside stuff, you don't have to worry about the outside

1438
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Speaker 2: stuff as much.

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Speaker 4: Right, So true, it's so true.

1440
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:20,360
Speaker 2: Like if that doesn't get out there, well, why don't

1441
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 2: you do something to fix that? And then you know

1442
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:25,560
Speaker 2: the people wouldn't be complaint And I don't know it works,

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01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:28,439
Speaker 2: but whatever, I don't know My time here is short,

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01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:30,440
Speaker 2: and so is yours. Julie Bouki our career shirt on

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01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 2: the Scott Sloan Show, The Balki Group dot com b

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Speaker 2: a uk e is how you spell her name, Bucky

1447
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Speaker 2: Group dot com career coaching consultant in Cincinnati, and she

1448
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Speaker 2: has boots on the ground helping in the search for

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Speaker 2: uh Nancy Guthrie. I believe why did you go? Do

1450
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:44,680
Speaker 2: you know you got time in your hand? Why don't

1451
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 2: you go help a little bit?

1452
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:47,040
Speaker 1: Why do you do so? Why do you help some people?

1453
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:48,320
Speaker 1: Help this poor family?

1454
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:50,880
Speaker 4: Take about two hours down the road, walk around.

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Speaker 1: You know you could say.

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Speaker 3: Let me know.

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01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd be a stringer force. Would you get on.

1458
01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:58,960
Speaker 2: We don't need more reporters out there. We need people fixing,

1459
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:01,200
Speaker 2: helping you get this woman back? Can you do that

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01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 2: for us?

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Speaker 4: I'm on it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's get this Julie Bouki not only our career shrip,

1463
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Speaker 2: but our detective, our chief investigator in the Scots Loan Show,

1464
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 2: News on the Way in five, very latest on the

1465
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:16,920
Speaker 2: story is again we've had someone in custody, a person

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Speaker 2: of interest, and that person's come outs that ain't me

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01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:23,120
Speaker 2: So I mean we don't know where it's going right now.

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01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 2: There's a lot more information out there than that they

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Speaker 2: have that we don't. I'm talking about the FBI here,

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Speaker 2: So hopefully this single'll come to fruition before it goes

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Speaker 2: onto two weeks, god forbid. We'll talk about healthcare reform

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Speaker 2: with Terry Wilcox. She's a patient advocate, the patient side

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Speaker 2: of the battle in Washington. What progress is being done.

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01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:41,760
Speaker 2: We have Trump our ex out and some our x

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01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:45,640
Speaker 2: as the website. We'll talk about that and also what's

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01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 2: really being done in Washington, if anything, to try and

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01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:50,880
Speaker 2: bring in the costs of healthcare. We're worried about things

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01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:53,919
Speaker 2: happening outside the continental United States. We fight over Super

1479
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 2: Bowl halftime shows. How about fighting over healthcare and get

1480
01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 2: this fixed? What do you say that's next? After news

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Speaker 2: on the Home of the Red seven hundred WWT, Cincinnati,

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01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 2: Scott a film show seven hundred WLW. While we fight

1483
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 2: over halftime shows, bridges to Canada, Iran, Venezuela, whatever. Our

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01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:18,560
Speaker 2: healthcare system continues to unravel. So we have insurance companies

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01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 2: that are exploiting ACA subsidies. We have a hospital consolidation

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01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:25,960
Speaker 2: that drives up cost It decreases access for those in

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Speaker 2: rural communities. You have administrative blowed. I could go on

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Speaker 2: and on and on, and we need some remedy here.

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Speaker 2: Terry Wilcox is the co founder chief mission offer at

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Speaker 2: Patients Rising. That's an adovcacy organization for patients, which seemingly

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Speaker 2: we don't care about in America.

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Speaker 5: Terry, welcome, welcome, Thank you for having me, Scott, I

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Speaker 5: appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, prayer right now. I mean the Trump administration

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01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:50,320
Speaker 2: is moving forward with the Trump our X thing. I

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01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 2: looked at this and said, oh, there's some some deep

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01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:54,560
Speaker 2: discounts here. But at the same time, I also have

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01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 2: a good RX card, which is a free market company

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Speaker 2: that goes that basically gets reduced call for over the

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Speaker 2: counters or not over the counts, I should say, for

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Speaker 2: a prescription medicine, and a lot of the Good RX

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01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:08,480
Speaker 2: scripts are actually cheaper than Trump RX. It's always good

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01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 2: to add more into the mix to get a better deal.

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01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:13,000
Speaker 2: But you know, again, it feels to be like, hey,

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Speaker 2: we're going to do something that's already being done and

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01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:17,639
Speaker 2: take credit for it rather than just fix the system.

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01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:22,720
Speaker 5: No, someone, I do agree with you on that. I

1508
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:25,960
Speaker 5: think to your point, the more you put out in

1509
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:28,559
Speaker 5: the system and the more options that are available, the

1510
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:31,719
Speaker 5: better look. A lot of those medications on trump rx

1511
01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:35,000
Speaker 5: do have generic counterparts. You can find them on Cost

1512
01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:38,599
Speaker 5: plus Drugs, mark Cusan's Cost plus Drugs and other places.

1513
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:41,200
Speaker 5: Like you said, good rx you can find a generic version.

1514
01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:44,679
Speaker 5: You can also, you know, find the name brand versions.

1515
01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:47,320
Speaker 5: And I think that's what trump rx is linking to

1516
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 5: for the most part. And I think it's just one

1517
01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 5: other narrative and one other way for us to insert

1518
01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:57,960
Speaker 5: something into the system, to show prices, to give patients options.

1519
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 5: Right right, If you want the name brand drug and

1520
01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 5: you can't find it anywhere else, you can link here.

1521
01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:08,880
Speaker 5: Just going to be side system manufacturers have created for

1522
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:11,439
Speaker 5: their name brand a lot of their name brands that

1523
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:13,280
Speaker 5: like I just said, I already have generic.

1524
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:15,679
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1525
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:17,479
Speaker 2: One of the other areas I want to get into

1526
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:20,519
Speaker 2: is a hospital consolidation. I think that is like one

1527
01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:22,680
Speaker 2: of the unspoken things who often fight over the ACA

1528
01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:24,600
Speaker 2: and subsidies and we're going to kill the ACA and

1529
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:26,200
Speaker 2: people are going to get loft off and not have

1530
01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:29,400
Speaker 2: health insurance, but all that money goes to insurance anyway.

1531
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:32,960
Speaker 2: Hospital consolidation to me is a huge river cost right now.

1532
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 2: And so what does that look like on the ground

1533
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:37,280
Speaker 2: for a patient trying to get care in Cincinnati or

1534
01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:40,640
Speaker 2: Columbus or Indianapolis or Dayton or Louisville.

1535
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:46,799
Speaker 5: Well, basically, when you have hospital consolidation and a certain

1536
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:50,960
Speaker 5: hospital system owns an entire area or in entire region

1537
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:56,120
Speaker 5: or in some cases and entire states, there is no competition.

1538
01:09:56,840 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 5: And when there is no competition, there is no way

1539
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:04,439
Speaker 5: for you know, patients just have to go where they're tools.

1540
01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:09,760
Speaker 5: So there's no price shopping, there's no looking, Oh i'd

1541
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:12,439
Speaker 5: rather have this doctor that I think this place would

1542
01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:14,120
Speaker 5: be better for what I need. Oh, I can save

1543
01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:16,840
Speaker 5: more on my copay if I go here, or we

1544
01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:18,800
Speaker 5: could save money and pay for it out of our

1545
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:22,519
Speaker 5: AHSA if we go here. There's no there's nothing for

1546
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 5: the patient to be able to think about. They're just

1547
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:28,920
Speaker 5: sort of forced through. They're given, you know, a bill.

1548
01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:31,639
Speaker 5: Much later, I just went through this with my point.

1549
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:33,760
Speaker 5: You're given a bill, you have no idea what the

1550
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:36,320
Speaker 5: structure has costs when you go in, and then you're

1551
01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:38,760
Speaker 5: given you know what what your portion is, but there's

1552
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:42,800
Speaker 5: no real conversation about what any of that is. And

1553
01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:46,320
Speaker 5: I think what we have to look at now is, Yes,

1554
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:50,720
Speaker 5: insurance is made for emergency care, right, I mean it

1555
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:53,439
Speaker 5: should be. I mean that's why you haven't you will

1556
01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:56,479
Speaker 5: help you from financial harm, whether it's home insurance, car

1557
01:10:56,520 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 5: insurance help, that's what it's supposed to do. And die introduce,

1558
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:04,040
Speaker 5: you know. And what we have is this sort of

1559
01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:08,240
Speaker 5: healthcare card, right, and it just sort of pushes us

1560
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:13,000
Speaker 5: through a system. And I experienced that here in Northern

1561
01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:15,920
Speaker 5: Virginia with the you know, folks that are in our

1562
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:19,839
Speaker 5: network and patients, patients don't have any have any choices

1563
01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:22,280
Speaker 5: or options, and they run up against a lot of

1564
01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:26,280
Speaker 5: denials if they want something that the insurance company doesn't

1565
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:29,760
Speaker 5: want in the hospitals do control all the pricing, so,

1566
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:32,519
Speaker 5: you know, and they are One of the things that

1567
01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 5: I say about the hospital lobby is the hospital lobby

1568
01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:39,280
Speaker 5: there is a hospital in every district in America America,

1569
01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:43,919
Speaker 5: so every every congressional member of Congress has a hospital

1570
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:47,880
Speaker 5: in their district, right, and so it is a much

1571
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:52,519
Speaker 5: tougher if it's a tough lobby to break, but it's

1572
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:55,200
Speaker 5: one we need to break because it is it is

1573
01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:58,519
Speaker 5: monopolizing the system and the prices of the system, and

1574
01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:02,360
Speaker 5: they're not transparent and they're not accountable to the prices

1575
01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:03,040
Speaker 5: that they're charging.

1576
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:07,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, the statistic is stunning as well. Hospitals are hiring

1577
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:09,320
Speaker 2: ten administrators or every one doctor.

1578
01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:09,880
Speaker 1: Is that true?

1579
01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:13,280
Speaker 5: It is true from what I'm I mean, I've read

1580
01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:17,400
Speaker 5: the same studies you have. I Yeah, it's the administrative

1581
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:20,400
Speaker 5: bloat to the map. And the truth is, we need

1582
01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:25,719
Speaker 5: more doctors and we need more healthcare professionals. We don't

1583
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 5: need more people pushing papers. You and I both know

1584
01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:37,200
Speaker 5: that we don't. And it's a disservice to access for patients. Yeah,

1585
01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 5: facing shortages.

1586
01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:41,960
Speaker 1: That seems untembleed. So what's our tist. You're hiring that

1587
01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:43,400
Speaker 1: many more administrators, what's the point?

1588
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:50,280
Speaker 5: Well, I you know why they hire that many more administrators.

1589
01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:55,080
Speaker 5: I think they created a system with a lot more paperwork, right,

1590
01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:56,720
Speaker 5: And that may not just be on the hospitals. I

1591
01:12:56,760 --> 01:12:58,200
Speaker 5: think a lot of that has to do.

1592
01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:00,200
Speaker 1: With well Medicare and government demand.

1593
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:02,880
Speaker 5: Medicare and government medicare and government's.

1594
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:06,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, you go into your typical doctor's office, there's there's

1595
01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:08,639
Speaker 2: eight people working there. One of them is a nurse,

1596
01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:12,480
Speaker 2: the other seven are like medical coders and uh Medicare specialists.

1597
01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:14,840
Speaker 1: That's the problem. Get the get government out of our

1598
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:15,280
Speaker 1: health care.

1599
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:18,880
Speaker 5: It's all in the coding. And that is why, that

1600
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:23,839
Speaker 5: is why many doctors, especially general practitioner or general practice

1601
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:28,040
Speaker 5: doctors are leaving Medicare and Medicaid and all insurance altogether.

1602
01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:29,799
Speaker 5: And it's like, look, you can pay me a monthly

1603
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:31,320
Speaker 5: fee and I'll be your doctor. It's called ther ext

1604
01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:34,519
Speaker 5: primary care because I can charge you a lot less

1605
01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:35,880
Speaker 5: and see you a lot more and give you a

1606
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:37,360
Speaker 5: lot more of my attention if I don't have to

1607
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:38,800
Speaker 5: worry about all the take of work and I'm not

1608
01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:42,400
Speaker 5: going yeah, yeah, and there. You know, it's really, you know,

1609
01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:45,720
Speaker 5: a fantastic system if you can even find one. My

1610
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:49,280
Speaker 5: husband to find one. And the waiting lists are really long.

1611
01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:54,120
Speaker 2: You know, people who use it tend to because the

1612
01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:56,599
Speaker 2: the reviews of those who are on the Affordable Care

1613
01:13:56,640 --> 01:14:01,120
Speaker 2: Act enjoy enjoy it. It gets very very favable reviews,

1614
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:02,880
Speaker 2: which is gonna be toughly tough to undue because it

1615
01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:05,920
Speaker 2: is popular with people who use Obamacare, there's no question

1616
01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:09,000
Speaker 2: about it. However, it's the root cause the problem of course,

1617
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:13,320
Speaker 2: it's subsidy is that people are paying for something, and

1618
01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:16,840
Speaker 2: a lot more money is being wasted because you are

1619
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:20,559
Speaker 2: basically giving people about your coupon groupon if you well

1620
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 2: for their healthcare. It's not a cost savings may save

1621
01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:25,679
Speaker 2: you personally, and you don't care about everybody else obviously,

1622
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:28,600
Speaker 2: because it's your healthcare and it's cheaper, but it's it's subsidies.

1623
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:30,920
Speaker 2: The problem here, how do we eliminate all that. It's

1624
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:32,920
Speaker 2: almost impossible to eliminate subsidy, isn't it.

1625
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:37,120
Speaker 5: Well, I think, well, first of all, we have subsidies

1626
01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:39,960
Speaker 5: on top of subsidies. We just didn't approve one round

1627
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:43,720
Speaker 5: of subsidies, which everyone is calling the COVID subsidies, but

1628
01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:48,480
Speaker 5: it is still like heavily subsidized. It is still subsized

1629
01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:51,599
Speaker 5: for anybody who thinks that the subsidies, that was just

1630
01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:56,600
Speaker 5: another layer of subsidies. So I think that you know,

1631
01:14:56,640 --> 01:15:01,040
Speaker 5: a lot of people will often say, oh, let's repeal Obamacare,

1632
01:15:01,080 --> 01:15:03,800
Speaker 5: and I actually don't think at this point that is

1633
01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:06,880
Speaker 5: the answer. I think the answer is to put forth

1634
01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:11,280
Speaker 5: other ideas and create more opportunity for patients. And that's

1635
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:12,960
Speaker 5: why I'm a part of a program club Fund the

1636
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:19,080
Speaker 5: Patient and giving those more, giving more opportunities I think

1637
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:23,520
Speaker 5: will open up the options for patients and perhaps Obamacare,

1638
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:28,519
Speaker 5: which Obamasair was created, and I as the founder of

1639
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:34,439
Speaker 5: Patients Rising, we have many patients who need insurance like

1640
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:37,840
Speaker 5: Obamacare that's no pre existing conditions, all of those things,

1641
01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:40,920
Speaker 5: and it's you know, they they they love their Obamacare,

1642
01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:43,120
Speaker 5: they love their aciation, and they don't want to They

1643
01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:45,680
Speaker 5: don't want to have that go away because if there

1644
01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:47,559
Speaker 5: was a time in their life when they couldn't qualify

1645
01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:51,559
Speaker 5: for insurance, so you completely understand that that they still

1646
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:54,320
Speaker 5: want that. And I do think that there's going to

1647
01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:57,679
Speaker 5: come to come a moment when we're going to need

1648
01:15:57,720 --> 01:16:02,120
Speaker 5: to really think about how we're going to take care

1649
01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:07,160
Speaker 5: of the most vulnerable in our systems, that need medications,

1650
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:10,200
Speaker 5: that need health insurance on a monthly basis, not just

1651
01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:13,439
Speaker 5: an annual basis. Right what are what are those high

1652
01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:16,880
Speaker 5: risk schools look like? And is that some form of Obamacare?

1653
01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:19,800
Speaker 5: I don't know, right, I don't know yet. I think

1654
01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:23,439
Speaker 5: we don't have enough options right now. Our options are

1655
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:27,320
Speaker 5: employer spocket plans, which is most people in the country,

1656
01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:31,439
Speaker 5: you know, our employer squonsor plants, but even employers are

1657
01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 5: getting completed you know, even they're covering less and people

1658
01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:39,040
Speaker 5: are paying more out of the patient for their health insurance.

1659
01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:43,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, no question, And it's hitting. It's all tens, all hard.

1660
01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:45,080
Speaker 2: And the problem is it's like there's no impetus for

1661
01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:47,760
Speaker 2: Congress to do anything. I mean, I mentioned what we

1662
01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:50,040
Speaker 2: focus on, what the national attention is right now, and

1663
01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:52,120
Speaker 2: it's all, you know, feel good nonsense. What are you

1664
01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:56,559
Speaker 2: doing about healthcare? And I think that people like like

1665
01:16:56,680 --> 01:16:59,439
Speaker 2: Green for example, she is upset that we're not focusing

1666
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:02,000
Speaker 2: on the people's opposed to foreign intervention, which makes a

1667
01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:03,960
Speaker 2: lot of sense because that's not what Trump campaigned on.

1668
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:06,040
Speaker 2: For sure, a lot of Maggie is starting to look

1669
01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:07,599
Speaker 2: at it go a wait, what about us? What about

1670
01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:09,800
Speaker 2: making America great again? I hear all this nonsense from

1671
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:13,160
Speaker 2: other countries and it just a lot of it is confusing.

1672
01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:13,599
Speaker 1: For sure.

1673
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:15,360
Speaker 2: In the core of this whole thing for all of

1674
01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:17,080
Speaker 2: us is healthcare. There's a lot of things we can

1675
01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:20,479
Speaker 2: focus on with our wallets, but healthcare impacts all of us.

1676
01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:23,000
Speaker 2: And you know, certainly Obamacare, as many people like it,

1677
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:25,559
Speaker 2: it doesn't work because it's predicated on young people buying

1678
01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:27,960
Speaker 2: insurance that can't afford it. So they're not going to

1679
01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:30,160
Speaker 2: buy it because they're not using it, So that weakens

1680
01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:32,120
Speaker 2: the system. When we got to subsidize it, it was

1681
01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:34,200
Speaker 2: broken from the minute they signed this in the law.

1682
01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:37,200
Speaker 2: And now we're also the other end of this thing too,

1683
01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:39,519
Speaker 2: when it comes to those in Congress who aren't doing

1684
01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:43,000
Speaker 2: anything about this, is the fact that the lobby groups

1685
01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:44,639
Speaker 2: are getting to them and paying them off. I mean,

1686
01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:49,320
Speaker 2: we could do a widespread direct primary care, which I love.

1687
01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:51,600
Speaker 2: Direct pric cameric care means, you know, you cut the

1688
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:53,479
Speaker 2: insurance companies out of it and you just pay your

1689
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 2: doctor directly, and it's much much cheaper because all the

1690
01:17:56,439 --> 01:17:59,240
Speaker 2: fat is taken out. So if you know, borring some

1691
01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:03,040
Speaker 2: sort of serious critical, debilitating illness, catastrophic illness, you simply

1692
01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:04,720
Speaker 2: go to your doctor for I don't know, it's like

1693
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:07,400
Speaker 2: fifty bucks a month, and you get prescriptions. You get

1694
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:10,120
Speaker 2: pretty much care when you want it. Everyone's happened. The

1695
01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:13,040
Speaker 2: doctor gets cash, you pay out of pocket. And yet

1696
01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:16,160
Speaker 2: that's being blocked, isn't it.

1697
01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:20,760
Speaker 5: It's absolutely being blocked. I mean there's people don't want

1698
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:23,840
Speaker 5: patients to have control of these dollars. Look, we spend

1699
01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:27,880
Speaker 5: more than any country in the world on healthcare. The

1700
01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:31,479
Speaker 5: problem isn't underfunding. It's that money flows through layers of

1701
01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:36,000
Speaker 5: institutions and middlemen before it ever gets to the patient,

1702
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 5: and that this is turning that on its head. And

1703
01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:42,479
Speaker 5: this was in President Trump's Great American health Care Plan.

1704
01:18:42,520 --> 01:18:45,479
Speaker 5: It's what fund the patients cans for. It's like, let's

1705
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:48,080
Speaker 5: get rid of that and let's try something a different way.

1706
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:51,840
Speaker 5: Let's give money directly to patients and let them make

1707
01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:54,880
Speaker 5: decisions for their health care, whether it's direct primary care,

1708
01:18:55,160 --> 01:18:58,440
Speaker 5: whether it's whatever it is that they want to want

1709
01:18:58,479 --> 01:19:00,720
Speaker 5: to do what's best for their family, what's best in

1710
01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:03,400
Speaker 5: their region. I always say healthcare is local. It's actually

1711
01:19:03,439 --> 01:19:05,880
Speaker 5: not an action. I mean, generally we take care of

1712
01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:08,960
Speaker 5: a lot of it, but it's actually a local it's

1713
01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:12,519
Speaker 5: your health care practice, in your where you can go

1714
01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:15,640
Speaker 5: to receive health care. It's all local. So you know,

1715
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:19,120
Speaker 5: right now, patients are locked out of the system. Healthcare

1716
01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:21,799
Speaker 5: is the only major purchase in America where the person

1717
01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:24,280
Speaker 5: paying and the person receiving the service often have no

1718
01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:28,320
Speaker 5: idea what anything costs. Right now, that's not a market, Scott,

1719
01:19:28,360 --> 01:19:32,880
Speaker 5: that's a main right. So we need to patients need

1720
01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:36,040
Speaker 5: to become the CEO of their healthcare loof, We've had

1721
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:39,760
Speaker 5: a very passive system for a while. Right, For a

1722
01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:41,800
Speaker 5: long time, it was like you remember this, you could

1723
01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:43,200
Speaker 5: get your health insurance and you would go to the

1724
01:19:43,479 --> 01:19:45,320
Speaker 5: counter at the pharmacy country and be like five bucks

1725
01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:48,160
Speaker 5: for generic, twenty five bucks for pre game brand. Well,

1726
01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:51,280
Speaker 5: we're not there anymore. First of all, innovation has transformed

1727
01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:54,240
Speaker 5: in the types of medications and the degree of medications

1728
01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:57,120
Speaker 5: that we you know, the biologics and all the things

1729
01:19:57,120 --> 01:19:59,360
Speaker 5: that come on the market. They're much more expensive than

1730
01:19:59,400 --> 01:20:03,080
Speaker 5: the you know, main brands of the nineties, right a

1731
01:20:03,080 --> 01:20:06,280
Speaker 5: lot of times, so I think we really have to

1732
01:20:06,280 --> 01:20:10,160
Speaker 5: put patients back and chalk and that's you know right now,

1733
01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:13,639
Speaker 5: we've got consolidation, like we talked about early with possibles

1734
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:19,360
Speaker 5: crushing competition. Yeah, there's a lot to be done, and

1735
01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:22,360
Speaker 5: there's a lot of Congress can do just by opening

1736
01:20:22,479 --> 01:20:28,120
Speaker 5: up the ability to have choice. She is do anything drastic?

1737
01:20:28,240 --> 01:20:32,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, Yeah, choice reduces price. But as much as

1738
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:36,479
Speaker 2: in this case Republicans scream about it or Democrats with

1739
01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:39,840
Speaker 2: the Obamacare, which is a really choice, nothing is getting done.

1740
01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:43,599
Speaker 2: So Terry Wilcox with fund the Patient Patient advocacy grew

1741
01:20:43,640 --> 01:20:47,120
Speaker 2: up're talking about, obviously, the healthcare crisis that Republicans and

1742
01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:49,240
Speaker 2: Democrats don't seem to be addressing. Now, Trump did come

1743
01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:50,800
Speaker 2: out and roll out trump a RAX and there's some

1744
01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:53,040
Speaker 2: other things. Does that really move the needle all that much?

1745
01:20:53,080 --> 01:20:56,240
Speaker 2: I mean, the idea that we're going to use our

1746
01:20:56,400 --> 01:20:58,320
Speaker 2: HSA cards going, yeah, we're gonna put money in your

1747
01:20:58,439 --> 01:21:00,280
Speaker 2: HSA account and you can go out and shop. But

1748
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:03,000
Speaker 2: does that actually alleviate where we're talking about You're just

1749
01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:05,719
Speaker 2: going to wind up because if it's so bloated and inflated,

1750
01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:07,800
Speaker 2: you're just going to take the little money you have

1751
01:21:07,960 --> 01:21:10,479
Speaker 2: and continue to throw it into companies that have a

1752
01:21:10,479 --> 01:21:11,639
Speaker 2: lot of waste, fraud abuse.

1753
01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:17,840
Speaker 5: I mean, it's a good question, what you know. I

1754
01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:19,760
Speaker 5: think one of the things that we have to think

1755
01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:24,679
Speaker 5: about is you can't just then say your only option

1756
01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:28,280
Speaker 5: is this one kind of plan. I think one of

1757
01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:30,280
Speaker 5: the things that has to be done is not just

1758
01:21:30,479 --> 01:21:36,200
Speaker 5: not dismantling Obamacare, in my opinions, but creating other options

1759
01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:38,280
Speaker 5: so that there's other types of plans out there that

1760
01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:43,120
Speaker 5: there are actually you know, catastrophic plans of yesteryear that

1761
01:21:43,160 --> 01:21:46,040
Speaker 5: are beyond a few months right, that people can make

1762
01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:50,200
Speaker 5: that choice, that people can, like you said, get direct

1763
01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:52,639
Speaker 5: primary care, other types of health care that they deal

1764
01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:55,439
Speaker 5: is best for their families and make those decisions. I

1765
01:21:55,479 --> 01:22:00,360
Speaker 5: think one patients are in control of their healthcare dollar orders,

1766
01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:04,240
Speaker 5: that that will open up more competition. I don't think

1767
01:22:04,280 --> 01:22:06,960
Speaker 5: we know the full answer to what that is, and

1768
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:09,640
Speaker 5: I think we have to, you know, step out a

1769
01:22:09,640 --> 01:22:11,880
Speaker 5: little bit and trust the people. Even if it's the

1770
01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:14,760
Speaker 5: pilot program. We're going to try this. Let's see how

1771
01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:17,960
Speaker 5: this moves the needle. Yeah, I don't think that you

1772
01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:22,280
Speaker 5: don't get something that's floated over decades and change it over.

1773
01:22:23,200 --> 01:22:26,320
Speaker 5: And we all know anything having to do with government

1774
01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:29,240
Speaker 5: is not going to change overnight, right, So how can

1775
01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:33,160
Speaker 5: we take steps to move in the right direction to

1776
01:22:33,200 --> 01:22:34,559
Speaker 5: give patients more agency?

1777
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:36,800
Speaker 2: And I don't know if we will, because Alan said

1778
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:38,439
Speaker 2: the easiest thing to do is your Congress will go

1779
01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:41,040
Speaker 2: Look from now on, you can't you know, employer can't

1780
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:42,920
Speaker 2: give you healthcare, and now we all people who have

1781
01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:45,040
Speaker 2: it less seemingly like it. I know ours is great

1782
01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:46,880
Speaker 2: and I certainly won't want to give it up. But

1783
01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:48,760
Speaker 2: the only way to wipe all this stuff out is

1784
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:50,920
Speaker 2: say you know, government's out of outside of medicaid, but

1785
01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:54,000
Speaker 2: you know, government insurance companies go buy it like you

1786
01:22:54,040 --> 01:22:56,240
Speaker 2: buy your homeowners, your car insurance and everything else in

1787
01:22:56,240 --> 01:22:58,679
Speaker 2: the free market. Uh, And there'll be enough savings left

1788
01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:01,360
Speaker 2: over from the bloat to fly people who can't afford that.

1789
01:23:01,439 --> 01:23:04,400
Speaker 2: And the system is private because you're going to buy

1790
01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:06,280
Speaker 2: it with your own money. But then there's subsidy for

1791
01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:10,080
Speaker 2: those folks who can't. And that would seemingly work, but

1792
01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:12,599
Speaker 2: the problem is that the administrative state continues to grow.

1793
01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:14,719
Speaker 1: And I mentioned lobbyists though.

1794
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:16,519
Speaker 2: And you know, it's the reason why they won't allow

1795
01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:19,800
Speaker 2: direct primary care is because the insurance lobby is so

1796
01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:22,320
Speaker 2: so fat and happy throwing money at politicians who don't

1797
01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:23,360
Speaker 2: want to change in it. And I don't care if

1798
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:25,680
Speaker 2: you're a Democrat or Republican. That's what it feels like

1799
01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:27,479
Speaker 2: to me. And meanwhile, it's like, oh, here's some money

1800
01:23:27,479 --> 01:23:30,599
Speaker 2: for ahs. Ain't great. I'm getting fifty bucks a month,

1801
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:32,760
Speaker 2: but the price of insurance has costing me like three

1802
01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:35,120
Speaker 2: hundred dollars a month. The math does a math for

1803
01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:37,280
Speaker 2: working people well.

1804
01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:41,040
Speaker 5: And I also think that I do think employers are

1805
01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:45,960
Speaker 5: at a breaking point. I do actually think that the employers,

1806
01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:48,680
Speaker 5: even the big, even the large ones. I mean, if

1807
01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:53,960
Speaker 5: you basically said, let's take you know, a portion of

1808
01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:56,719
Speaker 5: that many because like, look, the average family of cod

1809
01:23:56,840 --> 01:24:01,160
Speaker 5: at a corporation is paying it's twenty seven thousand dollars

1810
01:24:01,160 --> 01:24:05,880
Speaker 5: a year for their employee and their thousands to kiss

1811
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:09,360
Speaker 5: or whatever the pat is. Right, that's a lot of money.

1812
01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:13,040
Speaker 5: You know, that's a lot of wage money. So what

1813
01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:15,360
Speaker 5: if they took that and said, Okay, we're going to

1814
01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:18,960
Speaker 5: put this amount of money into a some kind of

1815
01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:24,880
Speaker 5: special employer HSA or employer account where you you go

1816
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:28,400
Speaker 5: choose it. Because I do always I am a firm

1817
01:24:28,439 --> 01:24:32,519
Speaker 5: believer that the healthcare plan, whatever it is, should follow

1818
01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:35,720
Speaker 5: the patient. I do not think that my I do

1819
01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:39,439
Speaker 5: not want my employer in charge of what plan I

1820
01:24:39,520 --> 01:24:42,080
Speaker 5: pick or what it is, how much it costs. I

1821
01:24:42,080 --> 01:24:46,160
Speaker 5: would rather have the money and shop. And it's because

1822
01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:50,120
Speaker 5: prices are hidden from patient. It's because patients don't have

1823
01:24:50,160 --> 01:24:53,040
Speaker 5: to say that the pricing is so bloated and out

1824
01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:53,559
Speaker 5: of control.

1825
01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:57,200
Speaker 1: Great, I think, and I think there's another important point here.

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01:24:57,240 --> 01:24:59,519
Speaker 2: I'll leave it at this Terry, and that is that

1827
01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:01,719
Speaker 2: now we live in a gig economy. You know, people

1828
01:25:01,720 --> 01:25:04,040
Speaker 2: are are side hustle and side hustle to become main hustles,

1829
01:25:04,040 --> 01:25:06,639
Speaker 2: and the side hustles have side hustles. Now, imagine if

1830
01:25:06,680 --> 01:25:09,080
Speaker 2: you could get your own insurance and do all that,

1831
01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:12,840
Speaker 2: I mean what the economy would explode because people aren't

1832
01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:14,840
Speaker 2: tied to one job now where they get an or

1833
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:17,280
Speaker 2: one spouse gets health insurance. If you could take it

1834
01:25:17,320 --> 01:25:20,360
Speaker 2: with you, uh, the gig economy would be on steroids.

1835
01:25:20,360 --> 01:25:23,080
Speaker 2: It would totally reinvent the American economy. But again, it's

1836
01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:25,920
Speaker 2: all that lobby money, the insurance money, the hospital money

1837
01:25:26,240 --> 01:25:28,240
Speaker 2: that's keeping us where we are and keeping it stagnant.

1838
01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:31,040
Speaker 2: Terry Wilcox the founder, co founder, in chief mission officer

1839
01:25:31,040 --> 01:25:34,280
Speaker 2: and Patients Rising. They're an advocacy organization for patients. Great

1840
01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:38,080
Speaker 2: to chat with this morning. Terry, thanks again, thank you.

1841
01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:40,280
Speaker 2: You want to hope it changes, but the reality is

1842
01:25:40,280 --> 01:25:43,240
Speaker 2: is it really going to change? News is on the

1843
01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:46,880
Speaker 2: way next. Not to leave you depressed, because we'll living

1844
01:25:46,920 --> 01:25:48,320
Speaker 2: up a little bit. Sara at least jumps in from

1845
01:25:48,320 --> 01:25:50,280
Speaker 2: the Kid Chris Show. It's the Snort Report. We'll talk

1846
01:25:50,280 --> 01:26:00,479
Speaker 2: sports next seven hundred w W Scotts Lunch. All right,

1847
01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:02,719
Speaker 2: shut up with this crap. Nobody cares about the pig.

1848
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:06,360
Speaker 2: Nobody cares about this shut up.

1849
01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:08,000
Speaker 6: You know what.

1850
01:26:08,360 --> 01:26:10,160
Speaker 7: She's been making the headlines too. I guess she has

1851
01:26:10,160 --> 01:26:11,280
Speaker 7: a deaf brother.

1852
01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:13,880
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, okay, I don't care. Jimmy is shut up

1853
01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:14,519
Speaker 1: their chef.

1854
01:26:15,479 --> 01:26:19,080
Speaker 2: More importantly, Chef Jimmy is here from Governor's house. Some

1855
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:21,320
Speaker 2: of the best Italian I've ever had. He's going to

1856
01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:24,320
Speaker 2: be a marty graph for homeless kids. Next Fat Tuesday,

1857
01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:26,599
Speaker 2: by the way, at the Northern Kentucky Convention Center, Sarah,

1858
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:27,840
Speaker 2: put those balls in your mouth and you give me

1859
01:26:27,880 --> 01:26:28,160
Speaker 2: a rating.

1860
01:26:28,240 --> 01:26:28,519
Speaker 6: Let's go.

1861
01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:33,759
Speaker 7: He's over there, you weirdo. Okay, wait, can you explain

1862
01:26:33,800 --> 01:26:35,040
Speaker 7: this this meatball real quick?

1863
01:26:35,040 --> 01:26:37,840
Speaker 2: All right, So, chef, he's brought food for years, he's

1864
01:26:37,840 --> 01:26:40,840
Speaker 2: been at the Governor's house and they brought and it's

1865
01:26:40,920 --> 01:26:43,519
Speaker 2: if you can get to company. It's fantastic. You brought

1866
01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:46,240
Speaker 2: the mushroom Mazota, which is notoriously difficult to travel.

1867
01:26:46,479 --> 01:26:52,160
Speaker 8: You did a good job on that one.

1868
01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:53,160
Speaker 6: I did it this morning.

1869
01:26:53,400 --> 01:26:56,360
Speaker 2: And he's got the meatballs going and Sarah's about to

1870
01:26:56,360 --> 01:26:57,040
Speaker 2: give us a review.

1871
01:26:58,240 --> 01:26:59,760
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, good good.

1872
01:26:59,800 --> 01:27:02,000
Speaker 1: Next good mix was born?

1873
01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:03,840
Speaker 6: I put too much garlic, and you know there's not

1874
01:27:03,960 --> 01:27:07,040
Speaker 6: too much of anything. People cry about garlic.

1875
01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:09,200
Speaker 7: I as as you can.

1876
01:27:10,840 --> 01:27:12,799
Speaker 1: You gotta have the garlic start.

1877
01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:14,559
Speaker 6: To smell real good in this room.

1878
01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:17,360
Speaker 2: All that garlic, and you got the beef. He's got

1879
01:27:17,400 --> 01:27:19,800
Speaker 2: short room, a little veal in there. It's nicey nice,

1880
01:27:19,840 --> 01:27:21,880
Speaker 2: some bread crumbs, perfect, sir.

1881
01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:25,080
Speaker 6: This is a delicious What's about?

1882
01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:26,599
Speaker 1: What if you're to have one thing on the many,

1883
01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:27,080
Speaker 1: what would it be?

1884
01:27:28,120 --> 01:27:31,680
Speaker 8: Actually the short rib? I love the short rib. Still

1885
01:27:31,760 --> 01:27:34,519
Speaker 8: cook it for about nine hours. We serve it over

1886
01:27:34,840 --> 01:27:38,519
Speaker 8: meshed potatoes, homemade, and then finish it with honey glazed carrots.

1887
01:27:39,240 --> 01:27:41,320
Speaker 8: Had a red wine demi over the top of that.

1888
01:27:42,120 --> 01:27:45,160
Speaker 8: My second favorite does the poor shank also boco. We

1889
01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:47,639
Speaker 8: slow cooked that for eight hours. We served that over

1890
01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:51,639
Speaker 8: risotto parmesan, and then we finished that with a white

1891
01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:53,720
Speaker 8: wine vegetable chutney with ben shat.

1892
01:27:54,280 --> 01:27:56,160
Speaker 2: So you know what you're doing, because very very few

1893
01:27:56,200 --> 01:27:59,200
Speaker 2: places are gonna do an also buco or a virgili.

1894
01:27:59,280 --> 01:28:01,439
Speaker 2: We're talking about if you're a telling you know bil,

1895
01:28:01,560 --> 01:28:02,960
Speaker 2: nobody does brigil No one does.

1896
01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:05,080
Speaker 6: Know the only place I had it it was no

1897
01:28:05,160 --> 01:28:12,479
Speaker 6: good side. This is that is my great, great grandmother's.

1898
01:28:11,840 --> 01:28:14,519
Speaker 8: Resting, all right, I gotta get my mama shout because

1899
01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:16,479
Speaker 8: she's the one that taught me how to make it though. Okay,

1900
01:28:16,680 --> 01:28:18,439
Speaker 8: So I passed on a few of my dishes into

1901
01:28:18,479 --> 01:28:19,240
Speaker 8: the restaurants.

1902
01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:21,440
Speaker 1: So I like the sauce sauce.

1903
01:28:21,160 --> 01:28:24,000
Speaker 8: That's her family sauce as well. So what I do

1904
01:28:24,080 --> 01:28:27,439
Speaker 8: is I do a wag oose skirt steams. We pound

1905
01:28:27,439 --> 01:28:30,120
Speaker 8: it out, then we we uh we stuff it with

1906
01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:35,320
Speaker 8: persudo guda, permisan cheese, su herbs and spice it. We

1907
01:28:35,360 --> 01:28:37,439
Speaker 8: slow cook it for about six and a half hours,

1908
01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:39,479
Speaker 8: and we serve it like a meatball. We treated just

1909
01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:42,120
Speaker 8: like a meatball. They're an appetizer on top of post.

1910
01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:44,400
Speaker 2: That's all the brazing and slow cooking six hours. You

1911
01:28:44,439 --> 01:28:46,920
Speaker 2: start cooking for Wednesday service on point Sunday.

1912
01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:49,640
Speaker 8: Yeah before before, Yeah, we have a We have a

1913
01:28:49,680 --> 01:28:51,280
Speaker 8: girl and she doesn't want her names Kelly.

1914
01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:52,599
Speaker 6: She does of our prepping.

1915
01:28:52,720 --> 01:28:55,599
Speaker 8: She keeps everything consistent and she's in every morning at

1916
01:28:55,640 --> 01:28:56,120
Speaker 8: five am.

1917
01:28:56,240 --> 01:28:57,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, cooks it.

1918
01:28:57,040 --> 01:28:58,320
Speaker 1: So you don't have to get it at five A

1919
01:28:58,520 --> 01:29:00,240
Speaker 1: usually today I do it today.

1920
01:29:00,280 --> 01:29:03,080
Speaker 6: To the woman to handle the meat the right way.

1921
01:29:03,280 --> 01:29:07,960
Speaker 1: Yes, Sarah, no stranger.

1922
01:29:10,120 --> 01:29:15,040
Speaker 6: I love cooking. I think it's therapeutic.

1923
01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:16,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it. I love it.

1924
01:29:16,479 --> 01:29:18,240
Speaker 2: I get my buddies are like what you you know,

1925
01:29:18,760 --> 01:29:20,439
Speaker 2: like I like that. I like cooking. I like trying

1926
01:29:20,439 --> 01:29:20,960
Speaker 2: different things.

1927
01:29:21,439 --> 01:29:23,400
Speaker 7: We got on the grill last night. I'm like, it's

1928
01:29:23,479 --> 01:29:25,400
Speaker 7: sixty degrees outside. You gotta get out.

1929
01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:31,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, alright, go see Chef Jimmy and his team at Governor.

1930
01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:34,040
Speaker 2: So they're going to be at Mariograph for homeless seem

1931
01:29:34,040 --> 01:29:34,920
Speaker 2: on Tuesday.

1932
01:29:35,960 --> 01:29:37,479
Speaker 1: What are you cooking for that we're doing.

1933
01:29:37,680 --> 01:29:42,800
Speaker 6: We're doing short rib over mashed potatoes. Oh my god, we're.

1934
01:29:42,080 --> 01:29:45,200
Speaker 8: Doing a wild mushroom. I'm sorry, we're doing it over risotta.

1935
01:29:45,240 --> 01:29:48,360
Speaker 8: My apologies. Okay, we're doing a wild mushroom risotta and

1936
01:29:48,439 --> 01:29:50,880
Speaker 8: the short room. I wanted to do something different than

1937
01:29:50,920 --> 01:29:53,280
Speaker 8: we did ourn you're bringing up.

1938
01:29:55,080 --> 01:29:56,640
Speaker 2: And here's the thing is, I know you guys do

1939
01:29:56,680 --> 01:29:58,120
Speaker 2: this on the arm, so it's you know, it's for

1940
01:29:58,200 --> 01:29:59,840
Speaker 2: the cause. And I really appreciate you and all the

1941
01:29:59,840 --> 01:30:02,960
Speaker 2: other restauranteurs for coming in and volunteering and doing that.

1942
01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:05,400
Speaker 1: Giving your night up first. Yeah, support this clause.

1943
01:30:05,560 --> 01:30:08,439
Speaker 7: I think we've got over fifty restaurants from the tri

1944
01:30:08,560 --> 01:30:10,639
Speaker 7: stage showing up fifty.

1945
01:30:11,680 --> 01:30:12,439
Speaker 1: It's an amazing event.

1946
01:30:12,479 --> 01:30:14,439
Speaker 6: I bet this year is gonna better last. I think

1947
01:30:14,439 --> 01:30:15,599
Speaker 6: it's gonna be the biggest one.

1948
01:30:15,680 --> 01:30:17,559
Speaker 2: Yes, I know you guys are taking a hit on Tuesday,

1949
01:30:17,560 --> 01:30:19,320
Speaker 2: but I appreciate you, Jimmy, thanks for coming in, buddy,

1950
01:30:19,320 --> 01:30:20,400
Speaker 2: appreciate go to Governor says.

1951
01:30:20,400 --> 01:30:21,880
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, this is some of the best Italian

1952
01:30:21,920 --> 01:30:22,719
Speaker 1: I've had my life.

1953
01:30:22,840 --> 01:30:26,760
Speaker 6: It is delicious. That's thank you.

1954
01:30:26,840 --> 01:30:27,120
Speaker 1: All right.

1955
01:30:27,880 --> 01:30:31,479
Speaker 7: Have you ever gotten in trouble on your day off

1956
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:34,120
Speaker 7: the boss calls you up, like, hey, you can't be

1957
01:30:34,160 --> 01:30:34,519
Speaker 7: doing that.

1958
01:30:36,280 --> 01:30:37,360
Speaker 6: We'll get back to that in.

1959
01:30:37,520 --> 01:30:39,400
Speaker 1: Just a moment you're talking about.

1960
01:30:39,439 --> 01:30:43,080
Speaker 7: But we got to give credit to Miami University. The

1961
01:30:43,120 --> 01:30:49,120
Speaker 7: men's basketball team is the loan undefeated team when it

1962
01:30:49,160 --> 01:30:53,200
Speaker 7: comes to basketball in this country. Absolutely, Arizona getting the

1963
01:30:53,200 --> 01:30:55,720
Speaker 7: big l the other night and they got Yep, They've

1964
01:30:55,720 --> 01:30:57,440
Speaker 7: got a big one on Friday night against.

1965
01:30:57,400 --> 01:31:02,679
Speaker 6: Oh You, Tom Brenneman's Oh You against my alma mater.

1966
01:31:03,160 --> 01:31:04,920
Speaker 7: It's gonna be big at my Letts. I think it's

1967
01:31:04,920 --> 01:31:06,400
Speaker 7: going to be even a It's going to be a

1968
01:31:06,400 --> 01:31:07,280
Speaker 7: bigger crowd than it was.

1969
01:31:07,360 --> 01:31:10,120
Speaker 2: I know that Miami is still undefeated. Sarah was wearing

1970
01:31:10,120 --> 01:31:13,439
Speaker 2: the Miami hat with the tag still I've had.

1971
01:31:13,280 --> 01:31:16,480
Speaker 7: This thing since I graduated. We don't need to.

1972
01:31:18,080 --> 01:31:19,320
Speaker 6: It's a pretty old hat.

1973
01:31:19,439 --> 01:31:20,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a black and white.

1974
01:31:22,280 --> 01:31:24,320
Speaker 6: They want to make hats in color.

1975
01:31:24,360 --> 01:31:26,920
Speaker 1: When I also got an Indian on it.

1976
01:31:29,479 --> 01:31:32,799
Speaker 7: I can confidently say that I graduated as a Red Hawk.

1977
01:31:34,000 --> 01:31:36,240
Speaker 6: The thing that I hate the most is like, oh,

1978
01:31:36,320 --> 01:31:38,560
Speaker 6: you were there with ben O.

1979
01:31:38,680 --> 01:31:38,960
Speaker 4: I was.

1980
01:31:39,080 --> 01:31:40,400
Speaker 6: We did not cross paths.

1981
01:31:40,520 --> 01:31:42,120
Speaker 1: You didn't run into No, I did not.

1982
01:31:43,600 --> 01:31:46,599
Speaker 7: But justin Viive and I our captain with the Sincinnty Cyclones.

1983
01:31:46,640 --> 01:31:50,479
Speaker 7: We did go to Miami together and honor yes, captain

1984
01:31:50,520 --> 01:31:51,240
Speaker 7: of the Cyclones.

1985
01:31:51,720 --> 01:31:52,200
Speaker 6: Very cool.

1986
01:31:52,479 --> 01:31:55,360
Speaker 1: Rick is a superstar in the NHL.

1987
01:31:55,479 --> 01:31:59,040
Speaker 7: Was yeah, okay, So we were just talking about getting

1988
01:31:59,080 --> 01:32:02,320
Speaker 7: a call on your day off. So Ellie de la

1989
01:32:02,520 --> 01:32:06,599
Speaker 7: Cruz is trending on social media because he was out, well,

1990
01:32:06,680 --> 01:32:12,000
Speaker 7: not exactly riding dirt bikes, but his pictures and videos

1991
01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:14,200
Speaker 7: were trending on social media of him and his buddies

1992
01:32:14,240 --> 01:32:18,120
Speaker 7: on dirt bikes. So the reds GM Brad Mehta calls.

1993
01:32:20,640 --> 01:32:24,559
Speaker 7: He's like a thinking, Ellie, what are you doing? So

1994
01:32:24,720 --> 01:32:27,200
Speaker 7: brad Mehta reported back to media and he goes, I

1995
01:32:27,240 --> 01:32:30,680
Speaker 7: talked to Ellie. He told me that he wasn't riding it,

1996
01:32:30,800 --> 01:32:32,639
Speaker 7: he was doing it just for the video.

1997
01:32:34,400 --> 01:32:35,880
Speaker 1: Sure he was.

1998
01:32:37,080 --> 01:32:40,439
Speaker 7: Can you imagine that conversation though, between Brad Mehta and

1999
01:32:40,520 --> 01:32:43,760
Speaker 7: Ellie de la Cruz, like, hey, buddy.

2000
01:32:43,439 --> 01:32:47,080
Speaker 6: What you're doing? Ellie's like.

2001
01:32:48,960 --> 01:32:52,439
Speaker 1: Rember, He's ride his motorcycle and he cur himself, and.

2002
01:32:52,360 --> 01:32:55,160
Speaker 7: I think that went through Brad's head, like, uh oh,

2003
01:32:55,680 --> 01:32:59,040
Speaker 7: this is risky. So do you think that Ellie was

2004
01:32:59,080 --> 01:33:01,680
Speaker 7: just feeding him line? Was he just doing it for

2005
01:33:01,720 --> 01:33:04,120
Speaker 7: the gram or was he actually out and about on

2006
01:33:04,160 --> 01:33:04,519
Speaker 7: his bike?

2007
01:33:04,640 --> 01:33:06,280
Speaker 1: Jimmy, you got any right motorcycles?

2008
01:33:06,280 --> 01:33:08,559
Speaker 6: You look like a few, my dad.

2009
01:33:08,600 --> 01:33:11,120
Speaker 8: I gotta, I gotta, I go, I go jeeping mostly

2010
01:33:11,960 --> 01:33:13,040
Speaker 8: I got a four wheel drive.

2011
01:33:13,160 --> 01:33:13,360
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2012
01:33:14,479 --> 01:33:16,800
Speaker 8: I put this in the same sphere as my people

2013
01:33:16,840 --> 01:33:22,000
Speaker 8: going out and drinking the night before Valentine's Day. That's there, okay,

2014
01:33:22,120 --> 01:33:26,599
Speaker 8: got oh yeah, I go actually walk around the square

2015
01:33:27,080 --> 01:33:29,800
Speaker 8: and make sure they're not around and let them know

2016
01:33:29,920 --> 01:33:30,920
Speaker 8: that I know what they're doing.

2017
01:33:31,200 --> 01:33:34,280
Speaker 7: I better not see what Molly Malone's on February thirteen.

2018
01:33:35,880 --> 01:33:38,880
Speaker 6: Until you guys are sold out this week after booked

2019
01:33:38,880 --> 01:33:41,040
Speaker 6: Friday and Saturday, we're all booked up.

2020
01:33:41,040 --> 01:33:42,479
Speaker 1: Nothing more romantic than Italian.

2021
01:33:44,240 --> 01:33:46,880
Speaker 8: The only ones let is that occasional guy that calls

2022
01:33:46,960 --> 01:33:48,719
Speaker 8: up and starts crying on the phone.

2023
01:33:49,040 --> 01:33:53,719
Speaker 1: I got a table next to the dumpster.

2024
01:33:53,960 --> 01:33:55,920
Speaker 6: Actually, can we get in? These are really good.

2025
01:33:55,920 --> 01:33:57,760
Speaker 2: You gotta put a table cut on the grease trap

2026
01:33:57,800 --> 01:33:59,760
Speaker 2: cover and that's where you can sit next to the

2027
01:33:59,760 --> 01:34:00,679
Speaker 2: bat for dumb ass.

2028
01:34:00,680 --> 01:34:02,400
Speaker 7: Wait in the last minute, what do you think We

2029
01:34:02,640 --> 01:34:04,599
Speaker 7: hope Alli is staying off those dirt bikes.

2030
01:34:05,920 --> 01:34:06,599
Speaker 1: What else you got?

2031
01:34:06,760 --> 01:34:07,080
Speaker 3: All right?

2032
01:34:07,120 --> 01:34:11,120
Speaker 7: Well, today is the first workout for pictures and catchers.

2033
01:34:11,400 --> 01:34:15,800
Speaker 7: How exciting. Just over forty days to go until opening day.

2034
01:34:15,800 --> 01:34:18,400
Speaker 7: But this Valentine's Day, speaking of, it's a big one

2035
01:34:18,439 --> 01:34:21,559
Speaker 7: because all hands on deck. Everybody's reporting to camp. If

2036
01:34:21,600 --> 01:34:26,240
Speaker 7: they haven't already, let's see us already there, good good vibes.

2037
01:34:26,320 --> 01:34:29,920
Speaker 7: Only love Ito Suarez, and I guess the entire team.

2038
01:34:29,960 --> 01:34:32,480
Speaker 6: According to Tito last night on the Hot Stove.

2039
01:34:32,320 --> 01:34:36,440
Speaker 7: League, they were all very excited to see him. Gotcha,

2040
01:34:36,560 --> 01:34:38,400
Speaker 7: that's kind of the face of the team right now,

2041
01:34:38,439 --> 01:34:39,000
Speaker 7: don't you think.

2042
01:34:39,160 --> 01:34:40,880
Speaker 2: Well, I think it was kind of like this unexpected

2043
01:34:40,920 --> 01:34:45,320
Speaker 2: push and the guy no one's looking forward to get

2044
01:34:45,479 --> 01:34:46,160
Speaker 2: out to Arizona.

2045
01:34:46,360 --> 01:34:49,400
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I'd be smiling too. If I got his contract,

2046
01:34:49,520 --> 01:34:51,120
Speaker 7: that's a nice contact.

2047
01:34:50,680 --> 01:34:53,160
Speaker 2: Paid a little bit and hopefully can produce for us here.

2048
01:34:53,200 --> 01:34:55,599
Speaker 2: And now there's hope in Red's Land, is what you're saying.

2049
01:34:55,640 --> 01:34:59,960
Speaker 2: Opening day at the Grail should be a hot I think.

2050
01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:02,599
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, that' should be a good one. I think

2051
01:35:02,640 --> 01:35:05,080
Speaker 7: he really turned everything around. He's going to get people

2052
01:35:05,120 --> 01:35:08,439
Speaker 7: in the seats. Also, someone having a good week, Tyler

2053
01:35:08,520 --> 01:35:12,200
Speaker 7: Stevenson because he won his arbitration case yesterday, getting a

2054
01:35:12,200 --> 01:35:17,240
Speaker 7: cool six point eight million dollars meatballs. Oh yeah, you

2055
01:35:17,240 --> 01:35:22,639
Speaker 7: can get a lot of meat with that.

2056
01:35:20,720 --> 01:35:23,759
Speaker 6: Tyler Stevenson. If you're not in Arizona and you are listening,

2057
01:35:23,760 --> 01:35:27,679
Speaker 6: you are longing to go in, spend your money and coming. Yeah,

2058
01:35:27,760 --> 01:35:29,200
Speaker 6: how many meatballs can you get for that?

2059
01:35:30,120 --> 01:35:35,160
Speaker 2: Math lifetime meatballs?

2060
01:35:34,960 --> 01:35:40,760
Speaker 6: He comes in by me, all right, let's go. Dode

2061
01:35:40,760 --> 01:35:43,519
Speaker 6: Sloane and I get the same treatment. Absolutely no.

2062
01:35:43,680 --> 01:35:45,280
Speaker 1: We get charged in. We get the bill.

2063
01:35:45,720 --> 01:35:46,719
Speaker 6: You guys get double.

2064
01:35:46,800 --> 01:35:49,320
Speaker 2: I opened up the check and it's a it's his

2065
01:35:49,439 --> 01:35:52,519
Speaker 2: bill too. I was like, that's great charge, Spenser, Like

2066
01:35:52,720 --> 01:35:53,320
Speaker 2: you got in too.

2067
01:35:53,880 --> 01:35:57,160
Speaker 6: Everybody has to know, I know, except for Tyler Seeds.

2068
01:35:58,040 --> 01:36:00,839
Speaker 2: He comes in, he's on my List had a story

2069
01:36:00,880 --> 01:36:03,600
Speaker 2: that said, there's a guy in college just got his

2070
01:36:03,680 --> 01:36:04,680
Speaker 2: ninth year of eligibility.

2071
01:36:04,680 --> 01:36:06,320
Speaker 1: A you're familiar with, Well, now what's going on?

2072
01:36:06,479 --> 01:36:06,760
Speaker 5: I don't know.

2073
01:36:06,800 --> 01:36:09,040
Speaker 1: How dumb are you? You need nine years?

2074
01:36:09,160 --> 01:36:09,880
Speaker 6: What's he doing?

2075
01:36:10,360 --> 01:36:10,800
Speaker 1: I don't know.

2076
01:36:12,920 --> 01:36:15,519
Speaker 6: Stack years.

2077
01:36:15,800 --> 01:36:18,160
Speaker 1: It took me thirty years to get through, for God's ake,

2078
01:36:19,840 --> 01:36:21,920
Speaker 1: that's a problem there. I don't know, all right.

2079
01:36:22,560 --> 01:36:26,040
Speaker 7: I remember those bush tree people in the super Bowl.

2080
01:36:26,960 --> 01:36:28,880
Speaker 2: It was only Sunday. I mean, I'm not that old,

2081
01:36:28,880 --> 01:36:34,600
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna forget. I don't know, almighty Sunday. I

2082
01:36:34,600 --> 01:36:36,479
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, I just yeah, with super Bowl on Sunday.

2083
01:36:36,560 --> 01:36:38,599
Speaker 7: Yet, do you know those trees that were in the

2084
01:36:38,720 --> 01:36:39,720
Speaker 7: halftime performance?

2085
01:36:39,800 --> 01:36:42,920
Speaker 6: Those were little people. Hundreds of people in those.

2086
01:36:42,760 --> 01:36:44,800
Speaker 1: Trees, all small people. Not little people.

2087
01:36:44,840 --> 01:36:47,040
Speaker 7: No, they had to be between five seven and six

2088
01:36:47,080 --> 01:36:51,760
Speaker 7: foot tall. So bad Bunny released this thing like a

2089
01:36:51,760 --> 01:36:52,439
Speaker 7: couple of weeks.

2090
01:36:52,240 --> 01:36:54,280
Speaker 1: Before, probably had the day out.

2091
01:36:54,360 --> 01:36:55,519
Speaker 6: That's why Jack was gone.

2092
01:36:55,600 --> 01:36:58,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, so he goes, look, I can't say what's going on,

2093
01:36:58,840 --> 01:37:01,439
Speaker 7: but I am looking for people on this specific height range,

2094
01:37:01,720 --> 01:37:03,680
Speaker 7: and so they could be in those trees and you

2095
01:37:03,680 --> 01:37:05,479
Speaker 7: saw them like walk out onto the field and then

2096
01:37:05,479 --> 01:37:08,120
Speaker 7: they just stood there for the entire fifteen minutes that

2097
01:37:08,200 --> 01:37:10,640
Speaker 7: Bad Bonnie were forming. They did get paid for that.

2098
01:37:10,680 --> 01:37:12,360
Speaker 7: What do you think that they got paid to be trees?

2099
01:37:12,520 --> 01:37:13,000
Speaker 1: I heard it.

2100
01:37:13,080 --> 01:37:16,840
Speaker 6: I heard it, so you know, then shut up. You

2101
01:37:16,840 --> 01:37:17,439
Speaker 6: brought it up.

2102
01:37:17,520 --> 01:37:18,240
Speaker 1: I didn't say it.

2103
01:37:18,360 --> 01:37:19,880
Speaker 7: Then you can't guess what do you think they got

2104
01:37:19,880 --> 01:37:22,559
Speaker 7: paid to be trees? It's actually way lower than I thought.

2105
01:37:22,720 --> 01:37:24,080
Speaker 6: I'll just say three.

2106
01:37:25,320 --> 01:37:27,160
Speaker 1: No, No, that's la money though.

2107
01:37:27,200 --> 01:37:31,040
Speaker 6: Well, no, it's like a hundred ticket you get to come.

2108
01:37:31,280 --> 01:37:31,759
Speaker 1: That's true.

2109
01:37:32,120 --> 01:37:35,800
Speaker 6: This was an hourly thing, like an hourly rate.

2110
01:37:36,240 --> 01:37:39,120
Speaker 7: They got eighteen dollars and seventy cents an hour.

2111
01:37:39,360 --> 01:37:40,360
Speaker 6: What trees?

2112
01:37:40,760 --> 01:37:43,400
Speaker 7: What it was like thirteen undred dollars. Well, they put

2113
01:37:43,400 --> 01:37:47,200
Speaker 7: in seventy hours of work. It's total to be thirteen

2114
01:37:47,240 --> 01:37:47,720
Speaker 7: oh nine.

2115
01:37:47,760 --> 01:37:50,080
Speaker 6: Okay, okay, okay, okay, that's that's again.

2116
01:37:50,200 --> 01:37:53,000
Speaker 8: They got a little bit more than they got to

2117
01:37:53,040 --> 01:37:53,920
Speaker 8: practice being trees.

2118
01:37:54,120 --> 01:37:57,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, to a tree.

2119
01:37:58,080 --> 01:37:59,720
Speaker 2: It's a lot of trouble. Then, you know, you get

2120
01:37:59,720 --> 01:38:01,400
Speaker 2: the police. Canine takes a week on you.

2121
01:38:01,400 --> 01:38:03,120
Speaker 6: You got problem, You got problem.

2122
01:38:04,800 --> 01:38:07,000
Speaker 2: Start eating the grass. The dog starts eating grass and

2123
01:38:07,200 --> 01:38:10,000
Speaker 2: puke and that's a thing. That's a whole big thing.

2124
01:38:10,160 --> 01:38:11,360
Speaker 6: It's a risk to be a tree.

2125
01:38:11,400 --> 01:38:12,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very risky.

2126
01:38:12,880 --> 01:38:15,160
Speaker 6: I thought that was interesting on social media.

2127
01:38:15,439 --> 01:38:17,080
Speaker 2: Like third grade, Oliver, I was the tree in the

2128
01:38:17,120 --> 01:38:18,760
Speaker 2: back row. There is a picture of me at the

2129
01:38:18,760 --> 01:38:19,280
Speaker 2: super Bowl.

2130
01:38:19,280 --> 01:38:21,240
Speaker 7: Hey, and you never know where anything being a tree

2131
01:38:21,280 --> 01:38:22,960
Speaker 7: in third grade is going to get you. I would

2132
01:38:22,960 --> 01:38:24,760
Speaker 7: be performing with Bad Bunny at the Super Bowl.

2133
01:38:24,800 --> 01:38:27,000
Speaker 2: My wife has eyes like like a hawk or an owl,

2134
01:38:27,040 --> 01:38:28,960
Speaker 2: and she said from the jump, she goes, those are

2135
01:38:29,000 --> 01:38:29,640
Speaker 2: people behind there.

2136
01:38:29,640 --> 01:38:31,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, what, what the hell are you looking at him?

2137
01:38:31,240 --> 01:38:31,280
Speaker 8: Like?

2138
01:38:31,520 --> 01:38:32,639
Speaker 1: They look like I couldn't see.

2139
01:38:32,840 --> 01:38:33,439
Speaker 6: Well, it's funny.

2140
01:38:33,439 --> 01:38:36,040
Speaker 7: Those people are really capitalizing on TikTok because all the

2141
01:38:36,080 --> 01:38:39,880
Speaker 7: tree people are getting on their pages and making videos about.

2142
01:38:39,640 --> 01:38:41,560
Speaker 6: Being a tree in that performance.

2143
01:38:41,920 --> 01:38:44,519
Speaker 7: And they wore this like green suit and like little

2144
01:38:44,560 --> 01:38:46,639
Speaker 7: shoes and they're just you know, fuzzy.

2145
01:38:46,920 --> 01:38:48,040
Speaker 6: All right, it's just funny.

2146
01:38:48,080 --> 01:38:48,439
Speaker 10: I don't know.

2147
01:38:48,560 --> 01:38:49,840
Speaker 2: I wonder how quickly. I was like, how are they

2148
01:38:49,880 --> 01:38:51,400
Speaker 2: gonna get all that stuff out of there? It's easy

2149
01:38:51,400 --> 01:38:55,200
Speaker 2: if the tree moves by itself. Yeah, yeah, I like

2150
01:38:55,240 --> 01:38:56,120
Speaker 2: it exactly.

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Speaker 7: And earlier today we were talking about that angry congressman

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Speaker 7: in Tennessee.

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Speaker 6: His name is Andy O. Goles. He was not happy

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Speaker 6: with the halftime performance.

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Speaker 7: So he's requesting a formal congressional inquiry into the NICA

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Speaker 7: and NBC for the prior knowledge of approval of this

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Speaker 7: halftime show.

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Speaker 1: What what was the offense?

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Speaker 6: He said, it was pure smut.

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Speaker 7: Were forced to endure displays of gay sexual acts. Women

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Speaker 7: were gyrating provocatively, and he was really uncomfortable with Bad

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Speaker 7: Bunny grabbing his crotch while dry pumping the air.

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Speaker 2: Everybody, everything is a microaggression with people.

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Speaker 1: Now, it's a it was thirteen minutes.

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Speaker 6: Just stop. And honestly, I thought it was very conservative.

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Speaker 1: It was all right.

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Speaker 2: I mean the women dancing was like, I, we can

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Speaker 2: the cheerleaders dress more scantily in dancing.

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Speaker 7: Go to an NBA game, We get that for no

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Speaker 7: matter what kind of performance you're watching, people took the well,

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Speaker 7: you don't understand.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't an English are now offended by the lyrics

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Speaker 2: they couldn't understand in the first place.

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Speaker 6: And that's what I saying. Is not happy with the lyrics.

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Speaker 7: He's a this is a clear violation of FCC guidelines.

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Speaker 2: And meanwhile, it's like then tune of the All American

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Speaker 2: One where Kid Rock is singing blah blah ball, which

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Speaker 2: if you look at the lyrics of that, you.

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Speaker 6: Had to take a deep dive into that. He was

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Speaker 6: busted for sinking he wasn't actually singing.

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Speaker 2: Surprised, I'll tell you, if you have never seen Kid Rock,

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Speaker 2: that's a great show.

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Speaker 6: I've never seen him before about half dozen times. I'm

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Speaker 6: not against it, but but you know what the.

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Speaker 2: Saying is, I'm not offended by Kid Rock or Bad

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Speaker 2: Bunny for that matter. It's like whatever, No, they're.

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Speaker 6: Both entertainers, you know, killing it in their own department.

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Speaker 6: You want to go into the game. I thought they

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Speaker 6: show was awesome. I thought it was fun.

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Speaker 1: It was something dish I understood by Spanish better. But

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Speaker 1: you're to kitchen Spanish.

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Speaker 6: Spanish? What did you think of the performance? Did you

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Speaker 6: like it? I mean it was good, it was.

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Speaker 1: Good, all right?

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Speaker 2: All right, see Shift Jimmy Comedy. He'll be at uh,

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Speaker 2: He'll be at our event on Fat Tuesday.

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Speaker 7: They're still available for that. So if you're looking for

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Speaker 7: something to get for your valandie.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic anally there's more food than you can eat there.

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Speaker 2: Marty Grout twenty twenty six, Dot our Jimmie, thanks for

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Speaker 2: coming to appreciate you brother. Sarah, appreciate you brother, Thank you,

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Speaker 2: Sister seven hundred, all the time,