1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: Good morning Dragon and YouTube. 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 2: Michael. 3 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: Great listening to K zero A up here in Cheyenne 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:12,319 Speaker 1: via iHeart. Just want to give Michael kudos for our 5 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: three of the Weekend this weekend. What a great show 6 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: in general, but our three we especially appreciated that. Have 7 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: a great day down there. Don't get too cold marching 8 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: in the mariade Dar. 9 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 3: I even ask, what did you do an hour three 10 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:29,639 Speaker 3: on the weekend program? When is the Weekend program? By 11 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 3: the way, it's established that first, well, the weekend is 12 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 3: pro The weekend is called the Weekend with Michael Brown. 13 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 3: It airs from noon to three Eastern time, which for 14 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 3: those of you who are clock challenged, that is ten 15 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 3: to one Mountain time. 16 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:44,599 Speaker 4: Uh. 17 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 5: You can listen to it anywhere you want to on 18 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 5: the iHeart app or if you're on Denver, you can 19 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 5: listen to it over on Freedom ninety three seven or 20 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 5: seven ninety three seven FM or seven sixty AM. And 21 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 5: it's a nationally syndicated program on three hundred and fifty 22 00:00:58,240 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 5: affiliates all around the country. 23 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 2: And I am. 24 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 5: Actually surprised about that talkback because Saturday, you. 25 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 6: Are you were surprised that somebody was actually listening. 26 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 5: Well, I was surprised somebody who was listening. And two, 27 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 5: I'm surprised that the person who did actually listened actually 28 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 5: thought it was worthwhile because it was a kind of 29 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 5: and I'm not saying this because I was presenting it, 30 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 5: but it was kind of high falutint. It was kind 31 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 5: of a esoteric discussion of how Adam Smith makes or 32 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 5: tells us that capitalism has to have a moral foundation, 33 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 5: and that moral foundation leads to cooperation, and that it's 34 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 5: cooperation between individuals that allow us to produce even more 35 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 5: than we ever could individually. Like if you make widgets 36 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 5: and I make widgets, but you and I decide that 37 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 5: we're going to join together to make widgets. You've made 38 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 5: ten and I've made ten, but together, instead of just twenty, 39 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 5: we could actually make two twenty six, and then that 40 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 5: makes more widgets available for people who buy widgets, so 41 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 5: that allows them to grow. 42 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 2: And it was the whole concept. 43 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 5: About cooperation, freedom, and trust, because which shall never happen 44 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 5: with you and I'm making widges because there has to 45 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 5: be trust, and there's absolutely zero trust between you and me, 46 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 5: so that's not going to happen. But if there were, 47 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 5: say somebody like you know, maybe McAthy walk over in 48 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 5: the news book. 49 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:26,519 Speaker 2: She and I could probably make widgets together, but you 50 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 2: and I. 51 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 5: Couldn't, but we can certainly sell you the extra widgets, 52 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 5: and that just helps grow. And so I spent an 53 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 5: entire hour talking about how that's really the basis for 54 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,839 Speaker 5: the way things work, and all these numb nuts out 55 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 5: there that want to keep expanding the government, and you know, 56 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 5: because do you trust the government, then we have to 57 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 5: talk back about, well, was it like twenty percent fraud? 58 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 5: We'd like to have that money back in our pockets 59 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 5: to spend like we'd won't spend. That's why we can't 60 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 5: trust the government to do the stuff. The government's inherently incompetent, 61 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 5: just can't do it. And somebody found that interesting, which 62 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 5: I'm glad they did. Did you find that interesting? 63 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 6: I'm sorry I wasn't paying attention. 64 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 5: You asked the question you'd done, but you asked the 65 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 5: question you don't have any attention. 66 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 6: And I immediately tuned out, that's. 67 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 2: Right, you were just trying you Well, no, I won't 68 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 2: even say that. 69 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 3: I was trying to be a good producer and have 70 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 3: you promote the shows that you're on. 71 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 6: I thought I did that. 72 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 5: But then I had to explain because I'm still fascinated 73 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 5: by I've Got I've Got. The had the text message 74 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 5: that said you use the word cooperation too much in 75 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 5: that hour, and I'm thinking, well, that was the whole 76 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 5: topic of the hour, was cooperation and how that fits 77 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 5: in the economy. And then we got to talk back 78 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 5: about how that third hour was. He found that particularly good, 79 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 5: and I was worried that it was particularly boring. 80 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 2: I tried to make it interesting, but you know me, I. 81 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 6: Just just because. 82 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 5: I do the program without any pants on, I think 83 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 5: it's going to make it more interesting. I didn't even 84 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 5: wear hands today because it was a holiday, so I thought, 85 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 5: why I get dressed. I get dressed. That's how I'm 86 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 5: gonna go to the marade pantless. For years, we have 87 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 5: been told that affirmative action it was going to be 88 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 5: a narrow remedy confined to college admissions, and it was 89 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 5: going to be carefully kind of boxed in by the courts. 90 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 2: Well they didn't last long, did it. 91 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 5: In twenty twenty three, the court made it plain in 92 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 5: a case called Ffa versus Howard that quote, eliminating racial 93 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 5: discrimination means eliminating. 94 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 2: All of it. 95 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 5: Eliminating racial discrimination means eliminating all of it. So discrimination 96 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 5: based upon race, which can go more than one direction. 97 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 5: That's just not white's discriminating against blacks or against. 98 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 2: Asians. 99 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 5: That could be blacks and Asians discriminating against whites in 100 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 5: all three races Negroid, Mongoloid, and Caucasian, And it can 101 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 5: all go all different ways. But even after that ruling 102 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 5: back in twenty twenty three, Washington and of state governments 103 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 5: for that matter, continue to run this incredible system of 104 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 5: preferences and set asides that treats race not as a 105 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 5: forbidden category like the Supreme Court said, but instead as 106 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 5: a ticket to tens of billions of dollars in federal money. 107 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 5: Now that system is finally facing a direct front on 108 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 5: challenge in a case called Revere versus Loeffler. That's a 109 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 5: lawsuit that could do to race based contracting what that 110 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 5: twenty twenty three case did to race based emissions. Now, 111 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 5: the federal government is the world's largest buyer of goods 112 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:04,919 Speaker 5: and service. Just that alone, leta scare you. Wouldn't you 113 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 5: think that something in the private sector, But no, the 114 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 5: federal government is the world's largest purchaser of goods and 115 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 5: services not just in this country, but of all economies 116 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 5: all over the world, and for decades now, both parties, 117 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 5: Republicans and Democrats of a like, have used that purchasing 118 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 5: power to steer a humongous slice of business toward their 119 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 5: favored constituents, actually their favored pigmentation. 120 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 2: So after the Civil rights there the Nicks. 121 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 5: Administration started pushing contracts to minority owned firms, And minority 122 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 5: owned doesn't necessarily mean race is also like women owned firms, 123 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 5: and those preferences harden over time into this regulatory scheme 124 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 5: centered on the Small Business Administration's eight A program. Yeah, 125 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 5: I know, you've surely heard of it. Oh, you know, 126 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 5: we're a we're a vendor. Well, under that regime, the 127 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 5: Small Business Administration defined socially and economically disadvantaged with a 128 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 5: racial shortcut, a rebuttable presumption that if you were black, Hispanic, 129 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 5: Native American, Asian, any of those so those. 130 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 2: Are you know, those are all. 131 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 5: Races plus ethnicities, you were therefore inherently you were presumptively 132 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 5: presumptively disadvantaged. 133 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 2: Huh. 134 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 5: But if I'm a dumbass white guy, I'm not presumptively disadvantaged. 135 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 5: How does that square with until all racial discrimination is eliminated, 136 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 5: like the Serene Court said to do back in twenty 137 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 5: twenty three. Now, let me just make sure you understand 138 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 5: the baseline here. The sb of Small Business Administration defines 139 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 5: socially and economically disadvantaged by using this racial shortcut. There 140 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 5: is a presumption it is rebuttable. However, there is a 141 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 5: presumption that if you're black, Hispanic, Native American or Asian, 142 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 5: you are disadvantaged regardless regardless of your actual circumstances. You 143 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 5: might be the wealthiest Asian producer of widgets in the 144 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 5: world with the SBA looks upon you as being huh, 145 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 5: economically disadvantaged. Now, if I'm competing with you for a 146 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 5: widget contract and you're that Asian minority that's making actually 147 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 5: more money than I am making widgets, I can rebut 148 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 5: the presumption, and I can challenge the awarding of a 149 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 5: contract to you through a lengthy, time consuming administrative process 150 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 5: before I even get into federal court. So there is 151 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 5: a not only is there a presumption that the Asian 152 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,079 Speaker 5: or that matter of the black, Hispanic, Native American or 153 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 5: all disadvantage, but then to overcome that presumption, I've got 154 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 5: to go through all these hoops to prove that, hey, 155 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 5: the dumb white guys the one who's actually disadvantaged here. 156 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 5: So it doesn't make any difference what anybody's circumstances, truly 157 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 5: are white owned businesses could theoretically qualify, but in practice, 158 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 5: all of the analyzes that I find shows that in 159 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 5: recent years, not a single individually owned firmed led by 160 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 5: a white owner participated in the eight A program. 161 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 6: Not one single one. 162 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 5: Now, maybe you can find one, but at least according 163 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:51,439 Speaker 5: to Lexis Nexus, I couldn't find one an eight A program. 164 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 5: They were all black, Hispanic, Native American, or Asian. Even 165 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 5: though that is presumptively assume that you are at a 166 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 5: disadvant well, why is there not a presumption that a 167 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 5: white guy or a white woman is huh, disadvantaged. Now, 168 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 5: the Biden administration, they didn't just maintain that structure, that architecture. 169 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 5: They put it on turbo charge because they wanted to 170 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:24,839 Speaker 5: quote advance equity. Oh, they wanted to make everybody equal. 171 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 5: They wanted to advance equity and build wealth in underserved communities. 172 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 5: So Congress had a five percent They set a five 173 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:40,199 Speaker 5: percent goal for contracting with these so called small disadvantage businesses. 174 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 5: But the Biden administration more than double that target. So 175 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 5: by fiscal gear twenty twenty four, about seventy eight billion dollars, 176 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 5: or roughly twelve percent of all eligible prime contract dollars, 177 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 5: went to those preferred entities. And here's the kicker. I 178 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 5: mean all already it's a violation of the Supreme Court order, 179 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 5: but they were often awarded those contracts through no bid 180 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 5: or limited competition deals simply because of that presumption, the 181 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 5: presumption that you're disadvantaged. Now, those contracts span everything from 182 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 5: construction to information technology, professional services, and their spread across 183 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 5: every single agency you can possibly imagine, defense, health and services, agriculture, 184 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 5: you name it. They've all got an SBA eight A program, 185 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,719 Speaker 5: Hells Bell's FEMA AD an sbaight A program, and the 186 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 5: SBA's racial presumption. Just like every other government program I 187 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 5: always talk about, it is now metastasized because it now 188 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 5: sits at the beating heart of at least twenty other 189 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 5: federal programs that use the SBA eight A discrimination if 190 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 5: you will, to decide who gets grants or loans or 191 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:59,839 Speaker 5: investment capital, fellowships and all the other benefits and when 192 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 5: I when I put that particular bullet point in my notes, 193 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 5: I thought, grants, it's just giving away money. That's money 194 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 5: you never have to repay loans. Okay, at least you 195 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 5: have to pay it back, right, So the taxpayers loan 196 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 5: you some money, you're supposed to pay it back. How 197 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 5: much of that really gets collected? But then I got 198 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 5: to investment capital? What's the government doing investing in things? 199 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 2: Now? 200 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 5: I know that DARP and some of these other organizations 201 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 5: will invest in some startup technologies because they don't want 202 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 5: to do the They don't want to buy the technology, 203 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 5: yet they want to try to help it develop because 204 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 5: eventually they see if oh if it really works out, 205 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 5: then we'll just come in and we'll just declare it 206 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 5: to be a national security product and we'll just take 207 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 5: it over, and you will be able to sell to 208 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 5: anybody else, just to the federal government if you had 209 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 5: investment capital, fellowships, all these other benefits. 210 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,959 Speaker 2: It's it's almost as it's not. 211 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 5: Almost as if it really is that the federal government 212 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 5: has become like an angel investor, a first round investor. 213 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 5: Oh you got something you want to hear, Oh, and 214 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 5: you happen to be black or Hispanic or Asian or what. Now, 215 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 5: you white guys would stay over here, but all you others, Yeah, 216 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 5: we'll throw some money at you. What do you think 217 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 5: happens when when you combine a huge amount of money, 218 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 5: all of these opaque rules and all of these really 219 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 5: opaque and and m will draw long drawn out processes, 220 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 5: and you combine all of that with racial preferences, what 221 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 5: do you get? Well, what you get is you get 222 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 5: fraud and abuse. The GAO, the Government Accountability Office report, 223 00:13:55,520 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 5: those reports, the Inspector General, the SBA, and SIM investigations 224 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 5: have all documented how some of the people that they 225 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:12,199 Speaker 5: treat the SBA eight A it becomes another money laundering scheme, 226 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 5: It becomes a pass through vehicle front companies win set 227 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 5: aside contracts and then what do they do so well, 228 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 5: let me let me just give you an example. In fact, 229 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 5: I know of a firm personally that is a black 230 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 5: owned firm. What they do is they go get the contracts. 231 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 5: Now they don't really have the in house ability to 232 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 5: fulfill the contract, but they get the contract and then 233 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 5: they subcon contracted out to a non minority firm in 234 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 5: exchange for a cut of the price of the contract 235 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 5: money laundry, and of course those that that one particular 236 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 5: black owned firm that I'm thinking of is not really disadvantaged. 237 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 5: But the people that get the subcontracts aren't going to 238 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 5: challenge it because they get the subcontract, so they don't 239 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 5: have to worry. All. We don't care if there's a 240 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 5: if there's a racial preference. We don't care if there's 241 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 5: a presumption that the black owned firm is somehow to disadvantage, 242 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 5: because we're going to get the work anyway, and we're 243 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 5: getting you know, let's just say a ten percent cut 244 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 5: goes to the minority owned firm and never lists a 245 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 5: finger other than to get the contract. I'll give you. 246 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 5: I'll give you an example. There's one recent case that 247 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 5: involved a five hundred and fifty million dollars half a 248 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 5: billion dollars a bribery and fraud scheme tied to USAID 249 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 5: and a hope multitudes of eight A participants. Now, even 250 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 5: after red flags about honesty or integrity, one of these 251 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 5: companies still got another eight hundred million dollars in contracts. 252 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 5: Another episode sub surfaced in an undercover video showing a 253 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 5: contractor boasting about using their minority status to break in 254 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 5: roughly one hundred million dollars in awards while outsourcing eighty 255 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 5: percent of the work to all some of the big 256 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 5: consulting firms, like a censure. Only after that exposure did 257 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 5: the Small Business Administration suspend the company and its executives 258 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 5: now step in Trump Trump two point zero Kelly Leffler, 259 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 5: the administrator of the Small Business Administration. They responded with audits, 260 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 5: sweeping record demands, publicly acknowledged that the A Day program 261 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 5: had drifted from a targeted effort into a pipeline for abuse, 262 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 5: especially under the Biden administration that openly prioritized diversity, equity 263 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 5: inclusion over merit and contracting. But the Democrats, they're squealing 264 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 5: like stuck pigs. They're all rushing to defend the structure. 265 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 5: They're not really rushing to defend the idea about a 266 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 5: disadvantage firm. They're rough. They're rushing to defend the actual 267 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 5: structure of the program. And they're actually saying the quiet 268 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 5: part out loud. They're warning the tough oversight will quote 269 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 5: target the little guys and quote strip away the very 270 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 5: tools that these minority businesses need to succeed. Wow, it 271 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 5: is It's like we've reached this apex, the rubicon of 272 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 5: some sort where the waste, fraud and abuse has become 273 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 5: so pervasive that you just can't ignore it anymore. And 274 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 5: I think this combination of it's so pervasive and we're 275 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 5: now getting freelance journalists who through you know, these some 276 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:51,360 Speaker 5: of these different think tanks and some freelance journalists are 277 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 5: starting to point this out and it becomes so big that, 278 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 5: like now, I'm not talking about Minnesota in particular, because 279 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 5: that's a different kind of fraud, different kind of program, 280 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 5: but it's I think Minnesota is a great example of 281 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 5: how it becomes so big. 282 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:07,439 Speaker 2: How did that start? 283 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 5: Now, it started a long time before it became so 284 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 5: public over the past several months. So why did it 285 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 5: become such a well known story just recently because one individual, 286 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 5: a freelance journalist, goes out, just takes his iPhone, looks 287 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 5: for daycare centers with kids in it, finds none. Puts 288 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 5: that up, it goes viral. Now the cabal is put 289 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 5: in a position of, oh damn, what do we do now? 290 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 5: The editorial boards are just they're screeaming because, oh, we're 291 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 5: gonna have to actually report on this. We're talking about 292 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 5: billions of dollars AO, we got to say something. We 293 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 5: can't just sit around. I think it's a culmination of 294 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 5: both those things, is that the fraud has become so 295 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 5: pervasive and we now have of pectual journalism going on. 296 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 5: But it's not in the editorial rooms of ABC, CBS, 297 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 5: NBC or any of the cable channels. It's freelancers out 298 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 5: there now. Students affiliated with Young America's Foundation ran into 299 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 5: the same wall from a different direction. They were trying 300 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 5: to get a Department of Homeland Security cybersecurity fellowship that 301 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 5: likewise requires the applicants to be quote socially disadvantage under 302 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 5: the SBA's racial Press Preference program, so it effectively shut 303 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 5: them out from competing on equal footing. And because that 304 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 5: presumption has been imported into massave contracting, EPA, research grants, 305 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 5: and a lot of other initiatives, the discrimination becomes systemic 306 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 5: and it's not isolated, and it becomes so systemic that 307 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 5: we now have this case. 308 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 2: I want to tell you about the case next. 309 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 4: Michael, Look there sis the marade is that a moron parade? 310 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:04,199 Speaker 5: Turn off your rady on the background. I forget what 311 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 5: the maraade stands for it's the march. 312 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 6: And a parade, marching parade, march and parade. 313 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 2: Marching parade. So mariade isn't that clever? 314 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,640 Speaker 3: Parades are for celebrations. This one's supposed to be more 315 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 3: of a march. 316 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:18,360 Speaker 6: So mariade. 317 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:23,199 Speaker 5: Well, then why isn't it if why isn't it a 318 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 5: if it's more of a march, why isn't it a 319 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 5: marchade as opposed to a maraade, because that's more of 320 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 5: a parade than a march. 321 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 6: And why is it in January and not in March? 322 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 2: Lo is it's Martin Luther King. 323 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:38,919 Speaker 5: And actually it's not even his birthday as birthday was 324 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 5: I think last week sometime, So I don't I don't know. 325 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 6: I'm just all confused. 326 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 2: It's all confused. 327 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 5: And I just, with all due respect to Martin Luther King, 328 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 5: I I just don't think it warn't the national holidays. 329 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 5: It was all done because you know, Arizona stood up. 330 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 5: And I don't whether Arizona still refuses to recognize it, 331 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 5: but it just became one of those politically correct things 332 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 5: to do. So what about some of the other great 333 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:09,120 Speaker 5: people that have you know, done wonderful things for the country. 334 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 5: But a federal holiday ought to be something. And again 335 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 5: not to diminishing all what Martin Luther King did, but 336 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 5: I just don't get it, like flag Day. Doesn't Trump 337 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 5: want to make Flag Day? 338 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 2: Does he? 339 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:25,479 Speaker 6: I think so. 340 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 5: It's also when you said flag Day, I was thought, 341 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 5: that's not a national holidays. 342 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,360 Speaker 6: It's also his birthday too, So I think. 343 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 4: Okay, of course, yes, of course, of course, so stupid, 344 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 4: that is stupid. Gree Yeah, let's let's let's make it 345 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 4: flag Day so that someday they'll make it a Trump 346 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 4: Day or something exactly. Oh, come on, come on, don 347 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 4: settle down, settle down, just do your job. 348 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 2: Do your job. 349 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 5: So back to this case, students with the Young America's Foundation, 350 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 5: now they're gonna they are arguing that the federal government's 351 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 5: use of race as a proxy for the disadvantage violates 352 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 5: both equal Protection Clause and the Fifth Amendment guarantee of 353 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 5: equal treatment. 354 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 2: The core claim. 355 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 5: Presented by these students is pretty simple, but it's profoundly American. 356 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:23,679 Speaker 5: The government cannot decide who gets contracts, grants, or fellowships 357 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 5: if they first decide we're going to sort our citizens 358 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 5: into racial categories, and then once we put them into 359 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 5: racial categories. We're then going to declare some of them 360 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 5: disadvantage as a matter of just bureaucratic doctrine. Now, the 361 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 5: courts are already trying to chip away at this architecture. 362 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 5: Like I said, In twenty twenty three, the federal judge 363 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 5: down in Tennessee barred the SBA from using the racial 364 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 5: presumption in administering this a program. The judge held that 365 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 5: it failed the strict scrutiny test because it did not 366 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,360 Speaker 5: serve a compelling interest and it was not a narrowly 367 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 5: tailored exemption. 368 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 2: Then the next. 369 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 5: Year, in twenty twenty four, at Texas court found that 370 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 5: a similar race based presumption is being used by the 371 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 5: Commerce Department's Minority Business Development Agency that that was unconstitutional. 372 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 5: Then the same year, again, twenty twenty four, a Kentucky 373 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 5: federal judge he enjoined the Department of Transportation from mandating 374 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 5: race and gender based presumptions in particular contracting programs. 375 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 6: So then the Trump Justice Department announced, We're no longer. 376 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 5: Going to defend any of these SBA style presumptions at 377 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 5: the Department of Transportation. Then conservative litigators, these different conservative 378 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:58,400 Speaker 5: law law firms, they're like nonprofits they do these cases. 379 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 5: I mean, they still make mace. It's like the Rocky 380 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 5: Mountain or the Mountain States Lego Foundation in Colorado, which, 381 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 5: by the way, great organization, Mountain States Lego Foundation. These 382 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 5: conservative litigators have cataloged at least sixty racially discriminatory federal 383 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 5: programs that are built on this SBA eight A model. 384 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 5: I point that out because that really underscores just how 385 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:29,199 Speaker 5: deeply these racial preferences are woven into the bureaucracy. And 386 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 5: here we are, and I've had this in my pos, 387 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 5: my pile of stuff for about ten days now, but 388 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 5: I wanted to wait and do this story on Martin 389 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 5: Luther King Day, because aren't we supposed to be celebrating 390 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 5: that we're all equal. Aren't we supposed to be celebrating 391 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:52,360 Speaker 5: that there is no longer racial discrimination? When actually, if 392 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 5: doctor King was really true to his beliefs, he might 393 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 5: still argue that there's still some discrimination against minorities, which 394 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 5: I'm sure there is in some quarters. But wait a minute, 395 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:09,439 Speaker 5: we're doing all this stuff based on race. And I 396 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 5: thought he wanted a color blind society. You can't get 397 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,439 Speaker 5: to a color blind society if we're going to award 398 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 5: government contracts based on Okay, well, first of all, we're 399 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 5: gonna divide you up by sexes, thank goodness, not genders yet. 400 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 5: That'll be the next thing. Right, We're gonna divide you 401 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 5: up by sexes, and they're gonna divide you up by 402 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 5: your race. They're gonna divide you up by your ethnicity. 403 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 5: And then we're gonna decide that all of you that 404 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 5: are over here that are other than Caucasian, anything other 405 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 5: than Caucasian, we're gonna have a presumption at your disadvantage. Now, 406 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 5: if you are Asian or Black, or any of the 407 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:48,120 Speaker 5: ethnicities under those two non Caucasian categories. Don't you find 408 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 5: that offensive that the government just assumes that your disadvantage. 409 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 5: I mean, if you are the guy that started the 410 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 5: Black Entertainment Network, if you're a successful black NFL or 411 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 5: NBA player, and you're at the top of your game, 412 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,199 Speaker 5: but you want to go out and you know on 413 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 5: your side you got some business, are you really going 414 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 5: to claim that you're disadvantaged. Huh, Well, there's a presumption 415 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 5: that you are. I just find it personally offensive that 416 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 5: we would assume that anybody is disadvantage based solely on 417 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 5: the color of their skin or based solely on their ethnicity. 418 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 5: But that's exactly what our government's doing, despite the Supreme 419 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 5: Court saying racial discrimination applies to all racial discrimination. 420 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 2: So here we are. 421 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 5: The Supreme Court once again declined to take up the 422 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 5: challenge to the eight to A program on Fifth Amendment grounds, 423 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 5: But that case attacked the statute, not the specific regulation 424 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 5: that creates the racial presumption. Because and here's why that 425 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 5: distinction is important. Just as for all you non lawyers, 426 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 5: speaks in terms of individuals subjected to prejudice, quote, without 427 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:10,639 Speaker 5: regard to their individual qualities. But it does not itself 428 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 5: declare that simply being a member of one of those 429 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 5: groups automatically makes you socially disadvantage. It's the regulation that does. Now, 430 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 5: I don't want to go off on a tangent about 431 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 5: this is what drives me crazy about the so called 432 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 5: deep state, but this is how this stuff gets just 433 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 5: metastasized into the bureaucracy, because they'll take a statute that 434 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:42,479 Speaker 5: might be prima facia non discriminatory on his face, but 435 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 5: they find a clause or two where they can adopt 436 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 5: a regulation put it in the coda federal regulations. You know, 437 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,719 Speaker 5: have a public, you know, comment period, and maybe some 438 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 5: people notice this, maybe some people don't, but they don't 439 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 5: really care, because there's going to take the comments and 440 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 5: then they're going to adopt the regulation and now, over ten, fifteen, twenty, 441 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 5: twenty five plus years, it now becomes. 442 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 6: Just the law. 443 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 5: Now, the lawyers behind this case are not asking for 444 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 5: a small tweak. They're asking to strike down the regulation 445 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 5: itself and with it, that means they would strike down 446 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 5: the racial presumption that has now been embedded across the 447 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 5: entire federal government. The director of the litigation in this case, 448 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 5: Caleb Krukenberg, notes that because at least twenty programs incorporate 449 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 5: this rule, a victory would mean that those agencies could 450 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 5: no longer administer those other programs using any portions of 451 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 5: the regulation that gets vacated. So, just by striking down 452 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 5: this one racial preference in this one regulation, they might 453 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 5: be able to kill it. 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You know what. 515 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 5: If there's one thing that I'm certain of besides the 516 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 5: sun's going to come up, you know, tomorrow and it's 517 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 5: gonna set today, it's that you don't care. 518 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 2: I totally get that. 519 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 6: I want to mention what happened during the break just 520 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:10,719 Speaker 6: now too well. 521 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 2: I get a text. 522 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 5: Tammer's down in Key West and I get a text 523 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 5: from Tamarra and she went, oh, are you working today? 524 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 5: And I wrote back and said, yes, I told you 525 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 5: that temper wants come in today. But I get, you know, 526 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 5: a day off somewhere down the road. And then I 527 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 5: just casually said, do you know what, Tamer never listens 528 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 5: to me? And you looked up and said, what'd you say? 529 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 5: You say something? I don't know why, but it just 530 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 5: struck me that that is you. 531 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 4: You know. Uh. 532 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 5: Now, Jesse can be that way a little bit, Jesse 533 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 5: A Rod can be that way a little bit less. 534 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 6: Grant is mostly still pretty serious. 535 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 5: Although I can kind of drag him into this sometimes 536 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 5: i'll drag you at all. You're usually kind of dragging 537 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 5: me like you dragged down, You dragged down the qual 538 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 5: to you this program. 539 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 6: You're welcome. 540 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 5: I've come in with you know, at a at a 541 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 5: really optimum level, and then I get I've got one 542 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 5: segment left to do, and because you're all worried about 543 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 5: me not getting the promos in, you completely obliterate an 544 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 5: entire segment. 545 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 3: Your optimum level is like a limbo bar. It's already 546 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 3: pretty low. 547 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 5: Well, I'm a lawyer, so I'm just like a snake, 548 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 5: just kind of snaking along on the floor. Just you know, 549 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 5: I'm so's I'm already low to the ground. So lord, 550 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 5: what do you wanna talk about now? Because like, why 551 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 5: why start now? Why start anything about that topic I 552 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 5: was on at this point? 553 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 2: Why why? Why? 554 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:43,959 Speaker 4: Hm? Oh? 555 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 6: Is that website again? 556 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 2: I can tell you with that looking Kowa. 557 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 5: Uh koa Colorado dot com slash contest. 558 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 6: There you go? 559 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 5: Is that is that our website? Kowa call kot. I 560 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 5: thought it was news radio koa dot com. 561 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 6: It used to be still is. 562 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 3: You can go there and eight fifty koa dot com 563 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 3: is still there. But you know, yes, our branding now is. 564 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 5: K By the way, all you've been, all of you 565 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 5: who have been texting me about our website, our page, 566 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 5: and how over over the K H O W and 567 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 5: over here we're getting it fixed, OI, bless her heart. 568 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 6: We know we're working on it. 569 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 3: But unfortunately, the same person that has to fix that 570 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,280 Speaker 3: is the same person that has to fix the toilets. 571 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 2: No, I'm talking about the website. 572 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 3: Yes, how it's not labeled properly over there. OI has 573 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 3: no bearing on fixing that whatsoever. 574 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 6: It's I'm talking about the website over there. 575 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, how it's displaying the wrong it's yeah. 576 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,800 Speaker 5: She well, she's working on getting the person. 577 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 6: That's in charge of that to fix that. 578 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 3: And you're right in charge of that is also the 579 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 3: person that's in charge the rest 580 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 5: Of what I It sucks to be me right now 581 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 5: because I have to say I have to say, you're right.