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Speaker 1: talk station. Happy Wednesday, Sesay.

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Speaker 3: Vacation, no ideals.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for summing it up for the world, Tally and

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Speaker 1: Joe Chucker for the SoundBite. Brian Thomas right here, glad

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Speaker 1: to be hope you're having a wonderful morning. Happy Wednesday

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Speaker 1: to you listener. Lunch Wednesday. Just get that out of

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Speaker 1: the way. Mad Tree Brewery, Summit Park location that's blue ash.

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Speaker 1: Looking forward to seeing everybody. May even see my friend

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Speaker 1: from cover sincey John Roman, who I talked to yesterday

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Speaker 1: Curbage Mike, if you're out there, are we playing a

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Speaker 1: game today? Hope? So my submarine or friend Curbbage Mike.

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Speaker 1: So maybe closed the day out or close the lunch

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Speaker 1: What a wonderful show Joe Streckers got lined up today.

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Speaker 1: It is interesting because we had two two discussions with

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Speaker 1: the Daniel Davis Deep dive. Of course, with the invasion

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Speaker 1: event as well and the capture of Maduro that gave

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Speaker 1: again yesterday further details on that and lots of complications.

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Speaker 1: It appears as though we made some Donald Trump announce

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Speaker 1: that's there on the fifty five carse Morning Show page

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Speaker 1: So two in there is I mentioned that double segments

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Speaker 1: with the Daniel Davis Deep Dive. Today we get a

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Speaker 1: volume two of the Smither Vent. Christopher Smitheman returns to

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Speaker 1: the programs six five to one hour from now to

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Speaker 1: talk about aftab's address. He got sworn in and then

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Speaker 1: immediately said, we need to increase taxes. Okay, we'll get

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Speaker 1: to the details on not in a moment. Two. Ken Cobra,

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Speaker 1: regard to stopping crime or helping to fight crime in

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Speaker 1: the city of Cincinnati. We'll take two days worth of

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Speaker 1: A big picture with Jack Avinent look at that with

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Speaker 1: with Jack Ovian about Venezuela and topic number two, how

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Speaker 1: Democrats see people. Here's my guess, useful idiots just guessing

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Speaker 1: ahead of time before we get to Jack aved at

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Speaker 1: My American veteran friends, Gary Minoy book Vanguard of the

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Speaker 1: we've got another one of those United Nations Agenda twenty

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Speaker 1: where it's happening in other cities as well, long term

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Speaker 1: on a tear about the proposal to increase income tax Why?

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Speaker 1: You know there's something else there. So while being sworn

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Speaker 1: in or after being sworn in, purval announce the proposal

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Speaker 1: Christopher can answer that question. Do we need additional income

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Speaker 1: Is that a great marketing thing for bringing people to

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Speaker 1: it's working great for California New York. Good point, Joe.

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Speaker 1: There's your root cause of poverty right there. It's been

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Speaker 1: must be met with a bold response. Bad thing, juvenile

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Speaker 1: What specifically is it raising the taxes on the residents

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Speaker 1: deal with it, though, don't you. Quote new revenue will

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Speaker 1: actually saying the words out loud, you support the police

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Speaker 1: and of itself a historic change and shift in philosophy,

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Speaker 1: it went on to say. But it will also empower

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Speaker 1: us to invest in affordable housing, catalyze neighborhoods that have

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Speaker 6: By the way, Yeah, first I had to say our part.

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Speaker 6: I wish everything go well for mister Thomas Abment. I

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Speaker 7: Make it, make it.

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Speaker 1: Not make it too much sense? Fred, you're make it

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Speaker 1: if you know where like the West End they have

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Speaker 1: crime all the time, I mean, you can see the statistics.

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Speaker 1: Cameras might go a long way to at least solving

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Speaker 1: the crime. But you got to put the damn cameras

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Speaker 1: in to at least have some sort of impact. We've

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Speaker 1: been waiting for years for that little tiny thing to

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Speaker 1: happen in a neighborhood that has been overrun with crime.

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Speaker 1: You live in this particular neighborhoods, you see the crime,

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Speaker 1: you're aware of it. You know statistically that that's where

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Speaker 1: a lot of the crime is happening over and over again.

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Speaker 1: Apparently it's not happening at Hyde Park, right, So get

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Speaker 1: the cops over to bond Hill or the West End

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Speaker 1: or wherever. Ah fred makes too much damn sense, Maybe

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Speaker 1: that's why they don't do it.

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Speaker 6: But once again, man, I pray for you every single day.

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Speaker 6: My shifts changed. Now definitely would be able to call

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Speaker 6: it a little bit more and like I say, pray

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Speaker 6: for you and your family, man, and you take care

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Speaker 6: of yourself, and we'll be talking.

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Speaker 1: Fred. You're good man. I appreciate it all day long.

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Speaker 1: And I love hearing from you because you speak from

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Speaker 1: an experience that I do not share. You know the neighborhood,

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Speaker 1: you know what you see, you know where the problems are.

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Speaker 1: This is the kind of conversation we need to have

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Speaker 1: from people who've experienced it and rational people like Fred

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Speaker 1: to appreciate that, you know what, the presence of law

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Speaker 1: enforcement is not a bad thing. Iris Roli five thirty six.

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Speaker 1: If you have Kcity Talk Station, Oh look, Tom's on

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Speaker 1: the line. Hang on. Tom gets you right out of

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Speaker 1: the gate. Five KRC. Bred's fans. Now is the time

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Speaker 1: to hear a seat Deep Talk Station five forty. Happy

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Speaker 1: Wednesday listener, lunch, mat Tree Brewery Today, Summit Park. Hey,

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Speaker 1: real quick on the comment on Fred's comment, and I

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Speaker 1: appreciate what he's saying. I do you agree with Fred

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Speaker 1: that more police in any given area will deter crime?

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Speaker 1: Because if you're standing there and you are planning on

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Speaker 1: committing a crime, if it's a cop there, I think

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Speaker 1: we could all agree it's less likely to happen. The problem,

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Speaker 1: I believe, and we really got to get into the

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Speaker 1: root of this is what is the impetus for committing

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Speaker 1: the crime? And how do you eradicate someone's willingness and

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Speaker 1: desire to engage in criminal activity? Where does that come from?

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Speaker 1: You know, and my family raised okay, you were I

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Speaker 1: was raised. You know, they tried to teach me morals.

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Speaker 1: Of course, they took me to church, and you learn

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Speaker 1: some morals from church. The threat of incarceration and a

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Speaker 1: record was always a looming thing in the back of

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Speaker 1: my mind. Everybody's got to maybe I'll just do this, eh,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's I can get away with it.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 1: You know what happens. You ed up with a record,

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Speaker 1: and the deterrence was you don't end up with a record.

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Speaker 1: You know, my parents are patting in your head. You know,

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Speaker 1: you end up engaging your criminal activity, You're not gonna

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Speaker 1: be able to get a job. You will be unemployable.

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Speaker 1: No one wants to hire a criminal. That's the repercussions.

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Speaker 1: But that's a bad thing, because oh my god, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna you know, at somewhere there has to be accountability.

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Speaker 1: There has to be something that prevents someone from engaging

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Speaker 1: in the activity, even if they want to do it.

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Speaker 1: It's the fear of incarceration, the fear of punishment, that's

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Speaker 1: the key leg of the criminal justice system. And then

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Speaker 1: you go out after you're convicted and serve your jail

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Speaker 1: time or to face whatever criminal justice you're gonna face

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Speaker 1: because you committed a crime, you're the poster child for

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Speaker 1: everybody else to not do it. Look what happened to Jim.

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Speaker 1: He committed crime and now he's serving time. I don't

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Speaker 1: want to be Jim. This is just all logic and reason,

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Speaker 1: but someone's gotta be there to pound that into a

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Speaker 1: young person's head. Tom, Welcome to the Morning Show. Good

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Speaker 1: to hear from you.

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Speaker 8: Happy New Year, Happy New Year. Uh yeah, I was

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Speaker 8: one of the many thousands of people that got affected

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Speaker 8: by the whole airspace over Puerto Rico and Caribbean thing.

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Speaker 8: I know, nobody's gonna feel sorry for me for being

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Speaker 8: in the Caribbean, but uh yeah, that was a that

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Speaker 8: was a bit of a nightmare. Definitely not a pr

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Speaker 8: stunt by the President. That was bad. I know, I know,

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Speaker 8: bad timing on that one, but hey, what are you

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Speaker 8: gonna do. You're trying to surprise people. So, yeah, your

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Speaker 8: your topic you're talking about with Fred, Well, I agree

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Speaker 8: with Fred. Hard to argue with that. However, there's too

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Speaker 8: many people out there that are arguing with that, that

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Speaker 8: are feeling like, oh, you're putting more cops in this neighborhood,

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Speaker 8: Well that's racist. Wait a second, do you want us

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Speaker 8: to deal with crime or do you want us to

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Speaker 8: worry about people's feelings? Because you can't do both.

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Speaker 1: What does it have to do with race? This is

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Speaker 1: the default argument for the left. You're racist. We're not racist.

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Speaker 9: We're going after.

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Speaker 8: Criminals exactly, exactly. And and if more more of the

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Speaker 8: criminals happened to be one race or the other, whatever,

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Speaker 8: that's hey whatever, Nope, the cops shit care, you know.

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Speaker 8: And yeah, well it's.

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Speaker 1: Like the Somali community. We're not being racist for going

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Speaker 1: after fraud and crime it happens to be within the

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Speaker 1: Somali community. Apparently word got round that you can easily

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Speaker 1: build the American taxpayer for shoot loads of money. Caught myself,

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Speaker 1: didn't I, but let's do it. Okay. It's not because

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Speaker 1: they're of color, it's not because they are Somali. It's

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Speaker 1: because they live in a collective area where the word's

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Speaker 1: gotten around that it's easy to do that. And guess what,

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Speaker 1: a whole bunch of them engaged in it. I don't

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Speaker 1: care if they're white, red, green, yellow, whatever color skin

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Speaker 1: they happen to be. They're members of a close knit

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Speaker 1: community who engage in massive fraud. Go after them. Has

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Speaker 1: nothing to do with racism.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, we we, and unfortunately we have too many people

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Speaker 8: who obtain positions of power and this is on both

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Speaker 8: sides of the aisle that figure out a way to

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Speaker 8: do things to make it easier for people to get

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Speaker 8: away with crimes, whether it's you're violent crime or whether

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Speaker 8: it's white collar crimes or whatever. And somebody at some

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Speaker 8: point has to put their foot down and say no,

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Speaker 8: I don't really care who you are. You broke the law.

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Speaker 8: You have to pay the consequences. And there's not enough

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Speaker 8: of that going on. And it's pretty obvious that there's

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Speaker 8: one party that's doing that a lot more than others,

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Speaker 8: and that's the Democrat Party. There they are jumping through

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Speaker 8: hoops to make it easier for people to get away

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Speaker 8: with crimes and open the floodgates to get all this money.

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Speaker 8: So this is what's all about Brian, all this money

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Speaker 8: and a tab just wants to make that pot bigger.

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Speaker 8: We gotta we gotta have more money. No, we don't

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Speaker 8: have to have more money, a tab. We have to

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Speaker 8: have more accountability. And I know that words scares the

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Speaker 8: hell out of Democrats, but that's what we need. Don't

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Speaker 8: vote Democrat. Have a great day, Pad to have you

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Speaker 8: back time. I'm glad you made it back safely from

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Speaker 8: your trip. Sorry it was interrupted by military actions in Venezuela.

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Speaker 8: You see it, fifty Think about krc DE talk station

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Speaker 8: trying to have a happy Wednesday. If you're not having

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Speaker 8: a happy Wednesday, show up at Man Tree Brewery the

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Speaker 8: Blue Ash Location, Summit Park and enjoy some listener launch fellowship.

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Speaker 8: We's gore to the home. See what Jay's got this morning.

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Speaker 8: J Happy New Year. Good to hear from you.

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Speaker 10: Hey, Happy new Year, and Brian, Hey, I wanted to

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Speaker 10: tell the listeners and you and everybody that over the

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Speaker 10: past several years, all the talk and discussion and frustration

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Speaker 10: with Ohio medicaid fraud, I think we're finally making traction.

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Speaker 10: I'm hearing even at the national level that when people

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Speaker 10: say Minnesota, the very next state that comes in is Ohio.

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Speaker 10: So keep pushing. Now's the time call your politician, call

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Speaker 10: Dave Jos's office, call auditor Keith Faber, and ask them

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Speaker 10: what are they doing about it. I did have the

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Speaker 10: opportunity and was able to get through into the Glenn

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Speaker 10: Beck program and also the Rush Limbaugh program over the

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Speaker 10: Christmas break to get the word out at the national level.

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Speaker 10: If you think Minnesota is bad, just stand by because

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Speaker 10: I think that forty three point three percent improper payment

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Speaker 10: rate at Ohio had last time we had some data

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Speaker 10: would put us closer to not the nine billion a

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Speaker 10: Minnesota seeing, but I think we're going to be close

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Speaker 10: to the seventeen billion. If you do the math on

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Speaker 10: a forty two to forty five billion dollar Medicaid line item,

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Speaker 10: forty three point three percent in proper payment.

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Speaker 1: Well, that multiple programs. This is just Medicaid, it's not Medicare,

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Speaker 1: it's these family programs. It's literally every government program out there,

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Speaker 1: apparently RTE with fraud, waste, and abuse. I mean I

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Speaker 1: viewed all of this as low hanging fruit. Jay. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm in your camp on this, and we went with

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Speaker 1: modern technology and the abild to cross reference data and

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Speaker 1: track information. We should be able to ferret this all

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Speaker 1: out in fairly short order, assuming they're willing to put

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Speaker 1: the resources behind it.

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Speaker 10: I mean, well, speaking a resource, speaking a resource. I

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Speaker 10: also found out I did some digging on where is

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Speaker 10: the Joint Medicaid Oversight Committee that I Jennifer Gross was

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Speaker 10: a member on. Found out that that got shut down

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Speaker 10: defunded in September of twenty twenty five. After all those years,

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Speaker 10: the cost of the taxpayers, what went into the politician's

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Speaker 10: pocket was about two hundred and fifty thousand dollars a

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Speaker 10: year for those members all those years accomplished absolutely nothing,

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Speaker 10: and they quietly shut it down in September, which I'm

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Speaker 10: glad they did, because if you're not going to do anything,

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Speaker 10: then then stop paying people to get into a room

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Speaker 10: and talk about a whole lot of nothing. But it

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Speaker 10: begs the question of if we're worse than the country

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Speaker 10: and the republic, ten people from Ohio government couldn't get

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Speaker 10: together and figure it out, what do you replace it with?

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Speaker 10: If now, who's Joint Medicaid Overset Committee or just the

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Speaker 10: wind just get to run rampant just the way he

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Speaker 10: wants to and spend this money however he wants to,

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Speaker 10: because this falls at his feet. He's the governor and

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Speaker 10: the Department of Medicaid and Medicare roll up under him. Now,

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Speaker 10: Jennifer Gross did tell us that for every I think

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Speaker 10: it's for every dollar that the state of Ohio kicks

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Speaker 10: for reimbursement from the Fed, we get three dollars back,

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Speaker 10: which would explain everything.

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Speaker 1: That's the corrupt part of the system is it's federal money. Ergo,

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Speaker 1: there's no reason to keep track of fraud, waste abuse

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Speaker 1: because you end up getting more money back from the

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Speaker 1: Feds in the state and the states sent out. It's

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Speaker 1: a great self fulfilling prophecy on that one.

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Speaker 10: So now's the time to push listeners.

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Speaker 2: And don't you know, I'm.

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Speaker 11: I'm going to reverse what we used to say.

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Speaker 10: Brian, don't vote Rhino. I think that they're more dangerous

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Speaker 10: than Democrats. Honestly, Well, we got to defeat them first

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Speaker 10: and then don't vote democrat.

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Speaker 2: Ye.

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Speaker 10: Have a good day, Brian.

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Speaker 1: Good to hear from me. Jay again, Happy New Year,

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Speaker 1: appreciate the calls. Yeah, I get a couple of stack

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Speaker 1: of stupid stories in here for we take a break.

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Speaker 1: And then here from Christopher smith a mom with volume

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Speaker 1: two this week of the smither Van. Yes, of course,

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Speaker 1: dealing with f tab provols claim to need additional income

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Speaker 1: tax from the residents. Got a woman in South Carolina

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Speaker 1: now under arrests for causing a scene, Yeah, quite a scene.

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Speaker 1: Richland County Sheriff's Departments at thirty five year old Cardiesia

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Speaker 1: Gilmour rested facing charges that including decent exposure, shoplifting, and

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Speaker 1: public disorderly conduct. According to the Sheriff's office, she was

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Speaker 1: caught trying to steal four packs of stakes at a

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Speaker 1: public's Why are you doing that? I don't know. Maybe

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Speaker 1: because she not figured she won't be facing any charges

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Speaker 1: in the criminal justice system. Thought she was in California anyway,

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Speaker 1: I don't know got she became irate after she was

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Speaker 1: confronted and proceeded too, of course, like everyone would urinate

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Speaker 1: on the floor of the store. When de wuty showed up,

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Speaker 1: she ran away and her traffic in a nearby road

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Speaker 1: before eventually complying with authorities. The deputies stated that Gilmour

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Speaker 1: tried to run again after being taken to the patrol car,

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Speaker 1: but was restrained. Sheriff's department said she also tried to

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Speaker 1: kick a deputy in the face, had no identification on her.

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Speaker 1: They said they only found her carrying an empty bottle

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Speaker 1: of oxy codone that was prescribed to a different person.

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Speaker 1: Real Quick Care a theme. We got a New York

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Speaker 1: advertising executive who's been arrested for urinating on several victims

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Speaker 1: from a rooftop bar.

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Speaker 9: Do what the hell?

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Speaker 1: As a consequence of this obscene behavior, he will be

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Speaker 1: performing community service and prohibited from using alcohol or mind

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Speaker 1: altering substances. As part of the deal he's struck with prosecutors.

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Speaker 1: Judge approved the pretrial intervention with Matthew Day. He's thirty,

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Speaker 1: arrested in July for disorderly conduct at the Landing, which

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Speaker 1: advertises itself as an elevated hangout balcony bar. Please claim

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Speaker 1: the Day entered the rooftop bar, pulled his junk out

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Speaker 1: of his shorts, urinated from the balcony onto the sidewalk,

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Speaker 1: where several passers by were struck with urine. Cops reported

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Speaker 1: shockingly that Day showed an indication of alcohol influence when

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Speaker 1: he was arrested for his activity. He accepted responsibility for

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Speaker 1: the crime. It's got to be performing fifty hours of

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Speaker 1: community was undergoing of alcohol evaluation and counseling. Aparently part

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Speaker 1: of a pretty decent firm that does advertising, and I

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Speaker 1: imagine he's probably no longer with them anymore. Not good publicity,

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Speaker 1: you might will ron another consequence of criminal activity. If

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Speaker 1: you are gainfully employed and you commit a stupid crime

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Speaker 1: like this or any other crime, you're probably gonna get fired.

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Speaker 1: Fifty six fifty five KR see the talks station, Christopher

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Speaker 1: Smithman out of the gate after the break, kep sticker around.

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Speaker 5: Today's tough headlines coming up at the top at six.

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Speaker 1: Or five fifty five cars de talk station, and I'll

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Speaker 1: probably mention it a lot this morning, because let's see

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Speaker 1: folks at Mattree Birwdy they summit park location for listener

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Speaker 1: lunch and always enjoy the fellowship they're kicking off twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty six on the right foot. Hopefully that all these

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Speaker 1: swirling bad news and the craziness going months, notably the

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Speaker 1: swearing in of FT provol and his claim that we

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Speaker 1: need to raise the income tax. At least he mentioned

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Speaker 1: public safety, but also I guess money for affordable housing.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to get it out of your system, Christopher,

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Speaker 1: I love being a therapy guide for you to to

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Speaker 1: help deal with your mental health challenges to deal with

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Speaker 1: all this news. Smither Event Volume two for this week

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Speaker 1: Christopher Smithman, Welcome back to this show, my friend.

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Speaker 2: Oh, thank you so much for having me on Bright

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Speaker 2: you know, for your listening audience. You know, the city

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Speaker 2: budget is no different than your household, right and every

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Speaker 2: day you've got to wake up and pay for the

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Speaker 2: operation of your home, their capital improvements like fixing your roof,

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Speaker 2: putting in a new HVC unit, whatever it is.

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Speaker 1: Paying your duke energy bill, paying.

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Speaker 2: Your Duke energy bill exactly exactly that amazing radar.

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Speaker 1: So pissed off about that one.

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Speaker 2: And you don't walk in around the dinner table and

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Speaker 2: look at your your spouse or your significant other and say, listen, man,

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Speaker 2: you know we've got to make some tough choices here.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm gonna I'm gonna go out and buy

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Speaker 2: a really nice car, and at the same time, I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna I'm not gonna cut Netflix or I'm not gonna

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Speaker 2: cut my spectrum bill, or you know, I'm not gonna

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Speaker 2: reduce something else. I'm not gonna take that big trip.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna do all those things. The problem with city Hall,

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Speaker 2: it's a spending issue. Let's start with the operation of

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Speaker 2: the streetcar, not the capitol building of it. This is

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Speaker 2: what we talked about, Brian Tarmin. The chickens are coming

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Speaker 2: home to roost, right, so I estimate it's five a

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Speaker 2: year just to operate the streetcar. This council wants to

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Speaker 2: take the second leg up to UC. Here's what's really happening.

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Speaker 2: They don't care about police officers. There's there's nothing that

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Speaker 2: shows you that they care about law enforcement. This is

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Speaker 2: about generating more money because the COVID dollars that they've

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Speaker 2: been patting the budget with are now gone, and so

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Speaker 2: now they have to sit back and really balance the budget.

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Speaker 2: Instead of balancing the budget, they're going back to the

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Speaker 2: will and they're saying, let's raise the income tax on

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Speaker 2: the three hundred and fifty thousand or three hundred and

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Speaker 2: thirty thousand citizens that live in the city of since

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Speaker 2: that knowing that our property taxes are already going through

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Speaker 2: the roof. This is just an irresponsible mayor and council

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Speaker 2: that cannot balance a budget. They keep putting out these

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Speaker 2: lofty contracts like to an Irish ROLLI as an example,

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Speaker 2: and you say, well, what is she doing. She's hiring

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Speaker 2: her son, what's happening with that money. See, this is

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Speaker 2: the kind of stuff where if you're in the city

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Speaker 2: and you're watching how they manage their budget, and then

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Speaker 2: you're watching the mayor's personal cars be repolled, you don't

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Speaker 2: trust that they know what they're doing, and the fact

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Speaker 2: is they don't, Meaning why don't they make the hard

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Speaker 2: decisions in front of them, Meaning show us that you're

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Speaker 2: willing to reduce your own spending prior to coming to

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Speaker 2: the taxpayer and saying, will you bail us out for

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Speaker 2: all the irresponsible decisions? But no, they'll come right back

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Speaker 2: and say, you know, we've got to do the mural,

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Speaker 2: the Black Lives Matter Mural. We're going to spend another

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Speaker 2: million on that. We're going to do a contract for IRIS.

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Speaker 2: We're going to fire people irresponsibly and just keep putting

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Speaker 2: money out. We're not going to reduce any hours on

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Speaker 2: the street car. We're going to continue to operate it

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Speaker 2: at the same level, meaning at the same time we're

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Speaker 2: going to talk about building the second thing of the

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Speaker 2: street car and guess what, we're going to tax all

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Speaker 2: of you, even more money and tell you it's about cops. Well,

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Speaker 2: it has nothing to do with cops, nothing to do

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Speaker 2: with it.

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Speaker 1: Well, don't overlook the very large checks they're going to

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Speaker 1: be writing to the former fire chief and probably please

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Speaker 1: former Chief Fiji when they settle out their employment dispute

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Speaker 1: discrimination cases. That's millions of dollars right there. I suspect

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Speaker 1: that will.

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Speaker 2: Be absolutely What they're really trying to do, what this

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Speaker 2: mayor pure of all, is really doing is he's trying

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Speaker 2: to pit police officers against conservative voters. So what they're

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Speaker 2: setting us up to say is this is a narrative.

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Speaker 2: If you vote against us raising the income tax, you're

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Speaker 2: voting against cops, as if he's for cops. Right, So,

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Speaker 2: there are lots of bees that are funded in the

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Speaker 2: operating budget outside of police officers. But what he's trying

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Speaker 2: to do is pit the profession against all of the

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Speaker 2: citizens of Cincinnati who say, we want to be safe

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Speaker 2: and you haven't been able to deliver safety to us.

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Speaker 2: It's not about raising taxes to the public. This is

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Speaker 2: a council with the mayor that you voted for. Elections

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Speaker 2: have consequences, and so whether it's the eight million dollar

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Speaker 2: settlement for those who were downtown who are acting crazy

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Speaker 2: and we're arrested, and we're now paying them off on

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Speaker 2: that settlement. Whether it's an Irish rule, the contract, whether

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Speaker 2: it's the operation of the street car, you name it,

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Speaker 2: I guarantee you. You and I could put a fine

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Speaker 2: too to this budget and cut things that they are

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Speaker 2: going to be uncomfortable with. But we can find ten

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Speaker 2: or fifteen million dollars a year in operating that we

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Speaker 2: shouldn't spend before we raise any taxes on the public.

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Speaker 2: They'll never do it. This is about this is a

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Speaker 2: spending issue. This is about raising our taxes Brian Thomas,

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Speaker 2: and they just don't ultimately care. The last thing I'll

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Speaker 2: say is remember this is a democratic council that says

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Speaker 2: they care about the poor. This is a democratic council

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Speaker 2: that says we care about affordable housing. How do they

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Speaker 2: think that everyday people can pay for increases in property taxes?

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Speaker 2: The widow or widower out there who's going to fix

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Speaker 2: the income How do they think on a social Security

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Speaker 2: check that they're going to pay for these increases in

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Speaker 2: property and income tax and feeves that they keep slamming

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Speaker 2: us with, which makes Cincinnati one of the most expensive

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Speaker 2: places in our state to live.

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Speaker 1: Well, you got a lot of unpackage on that there,

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Speaker 1: Christopher Smithman. I guess when you going back to your

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Speaker 1: comment about this as an effort to pit conservative voters

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Speaker 1: against Democrat voters, you presume, and I think it's fairly accurate.

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Speaker 1: Conservatives tend to be pro law enforcement, and we certainly

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Speaker 1: agree that there should be more law enforcement officers in

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Speaker 1: downtown Cincinnati in order to improve the crime situation. That's

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Speaker 1: a logical response to crime. But this is so much

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Speaker 1: more than that. So first off, let me just say,

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Speaker 1: there don't appear to be a whole lot of conservative

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Speaker 1: voters in the city of Cincinnati as I stare at

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Speaker 1: the chart in the aftermath of the last election, where

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Speaker 1: it's basically solid blue with the exception of Californian Riverside

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Speaker 1: and saleor Park. So I'm not sure there are that

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Speaker 1: many conservatives out there to even vote one way or

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Speaker 1: the other. But when you start saying further prioritize public

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Speaker 1: safety investments, support police and fire, also empower us to

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Speaker 1: invest in affordable housing, I don't know what these words mean,

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Speaker 1: but he said them. A purvol catalyzed neighbor hoods that

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Speaker 1: have not shared in our growth and support programs that

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Speaker 1: will help build our minority owned businesses. All of that

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Speaker 1: is going to be accomplished with some percent increase in

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Speaker 1: the income tax. If it was just law enforcement, if

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Speaker 1: they presented us a budgetary scenario, going back to your

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Speaker 1: budget comment, Look, we're in trouble. We need to hire

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Speaker 1: more police officers. In order to do that, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: have to pay them more because nobody wants to work

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Speaker 1: in the city of Cincinnati, where everyone thinks the police suck.

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Speaker 1: It's only for police. No other programs are going to

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Speaker 1: benefit from the money. It's gonna bring in X millions

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Speaker 1: of dollars. We're going to use it all to hire

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Speaker 1: police and improve public safety, period, end of story. That

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Speaker 1: might sell as a proposition, but this is a have

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Speaker 1: to have provol so it's not about public safety. In fact,

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Speaker 1: check out Todd Zinzer's post. He here's what he said

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Speaker 1: just nine hours ago. Apparently city Hall is wasting no

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Speaker 1: time to try to raise the earnings tax. The mayor

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Speaker 1: and council would like to keep spending more and more

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Speaker 1: tax payer money to quote disrupt poverty close quote until

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Speaker 1: they get it right, or the city, its businesses, and

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Speaker 1: its taxpayers go broke, trying I put my money on

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Speaker 1: the ladder, todd says, to my point, disrupting poverty was

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Speaker 1: basically the same purpose the mayor cited for his twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty two tax increase, except then they raised property taxes

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Speaker 1: in the city, and there was no mention about public

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Speaker 1: city in the mayor's motion whatsoever. His motion posted Bluss.

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Speaker 1: We can even read what he wrote back then. So

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Speaker 1: instead of increasing the earning tax, todd says, the city

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Speaker 1: should increase fraud prevention and detection. He says, there are

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Speaker 1: quite a few of us out here who would be

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Speaker 1: willing to help the city to do that, I e.

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Speaker 1: Todd Zinzer. And at the same time, it would help

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Speaker 1: the mayor keep his twenty twenty three promise of no

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Speaker 1: new taxes, which is another reference going back to what

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Speaker 1: the mayor previously said, no new taxes. Remember George Bush

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Speaker 1: said that and he ended up losing an election over

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Speaker 1: raising taxes. Hey, I have to have provoll what about

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Speaker 1: your twenty twenty three promise.

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Speaker 2: Corey Bowman was on the ballot and we had an

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Speaker 2: opportunity to elect in the mayor and that was in November.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about this in January. The mayor knew all

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Speaker 2: of this prior to the election. This is absolutely abating switch.

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Speaker 2: And the other thing that I want to want to

860
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Speaker 2: highlight about this, and I agree with what Todd is saying,

861
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Speaker 2: but if this mayor really wanted this to be about

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Speaker 2: public safety, and I hope the president of the FOP

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Speaker 2: is listening, are sitting on ninety nine who I know

864
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Speaker 2: will be on on Friday, I'll be listening at AAM.

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Speaker 1: Ben Coober is at the bottom of this hour, so

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Speaker 1: we're going to be hearing from him shortly.

867
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Speaker 2: So I'll be listening to your entire show. What I'm

868
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Speaker 2: saying is why not then do a dedicated income taxes

869
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Speaker 2: is what you're leading to, or say just for cops,

870
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Speaker 2: meaning if this is about cops, why not say, Okay,

871
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Speaker 2: we're going to raise the income tax for this amount

872
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Speaker 2: of money, and it is just for police officers. It

873
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Speaker 2: cannot be used, it is restricted just for cops. That's

874
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Speaker 2: not what they're trying to do. And that's what you're

875
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Speaker 2: talking about, Brian Thomas, and to the public something they

876
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Speaker 2: can do. There are other cities that have done it

877
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Speaker 2: because it's not what they're trying to do. They're worried

878
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Speaker 2: about the operating budget and this is fungible, and they're

879
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Speaker 2: trying to operate the street car and do all these

880
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Speaker 2: other little special programs and pay all these people all

881
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Speaker 2: this money. They're not interested in cops. They're trying to

882
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Speaker 2: pit me and you are people like myself who support

883
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Speaker 2: law enforcement. When we come out and we say vote

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Speaker 2: no on this, or we decide to pick up a

885
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Speaker 2: petition and collect signatures.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I like that. Let's hold on, Christopher, Let's elaborate

887
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Speaker 1: on a little bit. Let's pause and bring it right

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Speaker 1: back into this. I just want to ask you an

889
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Speaker 1: out loud question about where's the railroad money. One more

890
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Speaker 1: with Christopher Smith before we get to Ken Cober at

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Speaker 1: the bottom of this hour. First plumb type plumbing. It's

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Speaker 1: always vactation, very happy Wednesday to you're going to be

893
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Speaker 1: an especially happy Friday. I was just talking with Joe

894
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Speaker 1: Strecker about this and Christopher mentioned it out loud. I

895
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Speaker 1: was going to bring it up this morning before we

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Speaker 1: get back to Christopher smithing and with volume two of

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Speaker 1: the Smith Event this week, Signal nine will be on

898
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Speaker 1: the program. Eight a I'm on Friday. If you're not

899
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Speaker 1: familiar with Signal ninety nine, you need to be go

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Speaker 1: over to Facebook and just follow her. Former police officer

901
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Speaker 1: Carolyn will be joining the program. Outspoken and well connected

902
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 1: she is in terms of the information that she shares

903
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Speaker 1: to her followers, it's just it's it's hilarious stuff and

904
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Speaker 1: quite often it's a little painful to see the reality

905
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Speaker 1: of what's going on in the city. Back to Christopher, Hey,

906
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Speaker 1: where's the railroad money? Christopher? I thought we were going

907
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Speaker 1: to get a big wind fall from that billion dollar investment,

908
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Speaker 1: and what wouldn't that solve some of the financial problems?

909
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Speaker 1: And why do we need a tax increase if we

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Speaker 1: got all this new revenue coming in.

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Speaker 2: Christopher, Well, those are capital dollars, but it's a big

912
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Speaker 2: pot and I agree with you if there's no transparency

913
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Speaker 2: around those dollars, how they're being invested, how much money

914
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Speaker 2: is coming in. And this was my big issue too,

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Speaker 2: was the land, the three hundred miles all the way

916
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Speaker 2: to Tennessee that our forefathers had for us. There was

917
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Speaker 2: no other city I know of in the United States

918
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Speaker 2: of America, but definitely in the state of Ohio. Who

919
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Speaker 2: had three hundred miles of rail that we own, and

920
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Speaker 2: we were bringing in about thirty six million dollars and

921
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Speaker 2: it would have been forty six million before we clicked

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Speaker 2: our heels three times. It was a terrible transaction by

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Speaker 2: this mayor to sell our railroad. But here's going to

924
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Speaker 2: be the result of this, Brian Thomas. People are leaving Cincinnati.

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Speaker 2: Those who can get out are leaving. They're selling their

926
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Speaker 2: businesses that they don't want to pay the income tax,

927
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Speaker 2: and they are taking their residence outside of the city

928
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Speaker 2: of Cincinnati. So the reality of it is there are

929
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Speaker 2: going to be more and more people. Now, how do

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Speaker 2: I know this? How do I say that with certainty?

931
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Speaker 2: Because of the profession I'm a financial planner. I'm telling

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Speaker 2: you what my clients are telling you. They're saying, I'm

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Speaker 2: out of here. I cannot afford the property taxes, or

934
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Speaker 2: I don't want to pay the property taxes, or.

935
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Speaker 1: Maybe the crime or maybe it's crime too.

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Speaker 2: It's crime too. But they're saying, listen, I would be

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Speaker 2: willing to pay. I just did a I'm looking I'm

938
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Speaker 2: thinking about a cliny. I just did a financial review

939
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Speaker 2: of cart and the client said to me, I would

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Speaker 2: be willing to pay the taxes if I got the service.

941
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Speaker 2: But the problem is the city is so dog gone dirty.

942
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Speaker 2: When they miss my trash or they don't pick up

943
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Speaker 2: my trash, they won't come back and get it. I've

944
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Speaker 2: got potholes all around me, tearing up my nice car,

945
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Speaker 2: my nice vehicle. Right. Or if I call the police,

946
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Speaker 2: I don't get the response I want. Not because it's

947
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Speaker 2: the police is because they will not invest in officers.

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Speaker 2: If I just move out into the county, I'm gonna

949
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Speaker 2: get better services. I'm either gonna pay lower taxes, right,

950
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna be safer. And so

951
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Speaker 2: what's happening is people are leaving those who can leave

952
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Speaker 2: relief this move that the Mayriorage making. Watch what I'm

953
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Speaker 2: telling you, population is gonna drop. It's not gonna go higher.

954
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Speaker 2: People are gonna say I can't afford it, and I'm

955
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Speaker 2: just gonna move so somewhere else.

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Speaker 1: People who are earnings, right, people who are earning a

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Speaker 1: living and paying income tax. You can't lose those people.

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Speaker 1: Wasn't that the point of gentrifying over the rine and

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Speaker 1: building all the urban hipster paradise places to live, so

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Speaker 1: they would bring in people who actually worked and paid

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Speaker 1: taxes in the city. Christopher, that's exactly that. That's the

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Speaker 1: sweet spot that you need to make it a more

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Speaker 1: welcome environment for people who are paying into the system.

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Speaker 1: It's a great point your client made. You know what,

965
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Speaker 1: I'm not getting a return on my taxpayer investment. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you'd be willing to pay taxes if it resulted in

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Speaker 1: something positive in your world. It's like going out and

968
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Speaker 1: buying something. You choose to purchase something because it's going

969
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Speaker 1: to benefit you in some way. You get value for

970
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Speaker 1: the money. You're not getting value for your tax payer

971
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Speaker 1: dollars in the city.

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Speaker 2: Correct. And then they'll say to me, well, Christopher, I'm

973
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Speaker 2: already sending my kid. To say that, I'm already sending

974
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Speaker 2: my kid's deceit. And so my kid is not in

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Speaker 2: the Cincinnati public school system, but sixty five percent of

976
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Speaker 2: my property are the public school system. Why am I

977
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Speaker 2: paying all these taxes? And then then if I then

978
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Speaker 2: those who are living in the county are frustrated because

979
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Speaker 2: they say, I work in the city and I'm paying

980
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Speaker 2: for earning tacks. I work for proper example, but I

981
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Speaker 2: can't vote for any of these people. I can't vote

982
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Speaker 2: any of them out. I have no control over it.

983
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Speaker 2: So what you're seeing is businesses are saying and my

984
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Speaker 2: heart goes out to Taste of Belgium who's filing for bankruptcy.

985
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 2: I don't know what their situation was, but all I

986
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 2: can tell you is the lack of foot traffic certainly

987
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 2: didn't help their situation. The crime levels in the downtown area,

988
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 2: on the banks and then over the Rhine didn't help them.

989
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 2: And to your point, Brian Thomas, all of those people

990
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Speaker 2: that have invested not one hundred thousand millions of dollars

991
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 2: in their housing, they have reached in OTR. There are

992
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:51,320
Speaker 2: beautiful spaces that people have retired, their children have moved.

993
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 2: They said, I'm going to move into the OTR. I'm

994
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Speaker 2: going to create this really cool space. But guess what.

995
00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 2: The crime is out of control, and they're in estments

996
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 2: that they've made are at risk, and you're going to

997
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Speaker 2: see those people say what you're talking about, I'm getting

998
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:09,359
Speaker 2: the heck out of downtown. I thought this was going

999
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 2: to be cool. The city sold me a bill of goods.

1000
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Speaker 2: They're raising my coxses, my property taxes, but they also

1001
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 2: can't keep me safe. This increase, this increase, Brian Thomas

1002
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Speaker 2: isn't going to make anybody safer. And there are people

1003
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Speaker 2: out there, because my phone is already ringing, who are considering,

1004
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 2: why don't we just drop a petition on them, stop

1005
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 2: them at the gates, at the barbarians at the gates,

1006
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 2: and tell them no more, no more, no more. But

1007
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 2: what we don't want are cops pitting cops against the issue,

1008
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Speaker 2: and that's what the mayor is trying to do. This

1009
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:46,879
Speaker 2: is not about cops for him. This is about all

1010
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 2: of that other stuff that you're talking about, and cops

1011
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 2: are the lowest in his mind that on the total

1012
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 2: poll of stars what he's interested to pay for.

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Speaker 1: And in terms of the businesses you're referring to, and

1014
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 1: I think it's implicit in your comments, but I want

1015
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Speaker 1: to say it straightforward out loud. Those businesses rely not

1016
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Speaker 1: just on residents that live within the city. They rely

1017
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Speaker 1: on people who want to come into the city to

1018
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Speaker 1: spend money, who want to come into the city and

1019
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 1: go to Ruby's or some of the other restaurants that

1020
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Speaker 1: are down there that are great. But you know what,

1021
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:17,879
Speaker 1: who among us has not talked to a person who

1022
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 1: said I am not going to the city anymore because

1023
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 1: I'm afraid of the crime. I have heard that from

1024
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Speaker 1: so many people. It's almost like the norm. Whether or

1025
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Speaker 1: not it's an appropriate conclusion, because I like downtown and

1026
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Speaker 1: I think there's some great stuff down there that it

1027
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 1: is definitely there that is attractive to me. But you

1028
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 1: know what lingering in the back of my mind is

1029
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 1: the same thing. You know, I saw the beat down

1030
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Speaker 1: on film, the you know from last year. I've seen

1031
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 1: the crime statistics. Eleven year old gets a randomly shot.

1032
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Speaker 1: That could be anybody. Doesn't have to be eleven year

1033
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Speaker 1: old girl in a park. It could be literally anyone

1034
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Speaker 1: who's the victim of random gunfire. Do you want to

1035
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 1: be that person?

1036
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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 1: Are you going to be subjected to that in Oh,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Westchester or Anderson or Hyde Park. Probably not,

1039
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Speaker 1: but it may very well happen high crime areas of

1040
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Speaker 1: the city where a lot of businesses have invested a

1041
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 1: lot of money hoping people will come in and spend it.

1042
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Speaker 2: They're so frustrating Brian Thomas is, then how do they respond.

1043
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Speaker 6: To those things?

1044
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:14,879
Speaker 2: Meaning, when the eleven year old girl has shot, how

1045
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 2: do they respond to it. Right when the when the

1046
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 2: when the citizens were beat up in the downtown, how

1047
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 2: did they respond? They deserved it, they got what they

1048
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 2: was coming to them. That is how city council and

1049
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 2: this mayor responded to it. So the reality of it

1050
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 2: is I feel bad for those businesses that are in

1051
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 2: down town. I absolutely do. My heart goes out to this.

1052
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Speaker 2: But I'm also not going to get on this radio

1053
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:39,280
Speaker 2: station in lie and say that Cincinnati is safe until

1054
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 2: it is safe, until the reality of it is of

1055
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:44,240
Speaker 2: many of these neighborhoods have voted for this, They voted

1056
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 2: for this mayor, they voted for this council. Elections have consequences.

1057
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Speaker 1: Christopher Smithvan, you have consequences too. That's why I love you.

1058
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Speaker 1: Have it on the program Smith Event Volume two find

1059
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Speaker 1: the podcast for five Carecy dot com. You are my brother, indeed,

1060
00:56:57,760 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 1: and you're more than welcome, and I thank you for

1061
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:03,280
Speaker 1: helping us. We're going to continue this conversation anwing, a

1062
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:07,280
Speaker 1: conversation about downtown Cincinnati and most notably the crime. Welcome

1063
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 1: back to the fifty five KRC Morning Show and a

1064
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Speaker 1: happy new year to Ken Cover FOP. President's great to

1065
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 1: have you back on the show. Sir, Hey, good morning, Brian,

1066
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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. Your reaction matter have to have

1067
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Speaker 1: Purvol's proposal to increase the property to increase the income

1068
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Speaker 1: tax in order to deal with public safety, but a

1069
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Speaker 1: lot of other things. He said, new revenue will allow

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Speaker 1: us to fund and further prioritize public safety investments and

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Speaker 1: support our police and fire in a historic way. Do

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Speaker 1: you really need money to come out loud and start

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Speaker 1: talking up and supporting the police verbally and in public

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Speaker 1: and encouraging the citizens of the city to work with

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Speaker 1: police as opposed to reject them and consider them all

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Speaker 1: to be an evil force. I mean that to me,

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Speaker 1: right there would go a long way our elected officials

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Speaker 1: out loud showing support for you and the members of

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Speaker 1: law enforcement.

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Speaker 9: Now, you know, I think that there's this misnomer that

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Speaker 9: throwing money at a problem somehow equates to supporting public safety.

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Speaker 1: And it just doesn't.

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Speaker 9: Money's not going to solve this no matter how much

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Speaker 9: money you throw at it, and raising taxes is just

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Speaker 9: not going to help anything. It's just I you know,

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Speaker 9: it's following what this Future's Commission said, which is a

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Speaker 9: bunch of CEOs from downtown that have a stake in

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Speaker 9: this play in the city that thinks that it's going

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Speaker 9: to be a good idea to raise taxes and instead

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Speaker 9: of looking at the budget and seeing, well, is there

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Speaker 9: places that we can cut stuff if we want to

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Speaker 9: fund things more, and instead the simple answers, well.

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Speaker 1: We're just going to tax people more.

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Speaker 9: People are tired of being tax I was looking at

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Speaker 9: some social media stuff this morning online, and you can't

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Speaker 9: find one person that supports this.

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Speaker 5: It's nonsense.

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Speaker 9: I hope council members take heed of this and do

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Speaker 9: the right thing and decide to vote this down.

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Speaker 1: Well, one thing is for certain, if they do support

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Speaker 1: an increase in the income tax, it will be something

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Speaker 1: that the voters in the city will get to to

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Speaker 1: approve or reject as a concept. And I'm just wondering

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Speaker 1: how the voters are in the city of Cincinnati feel

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Speaker 1: about having their income tax raised. Ken.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, well, I mean I'm not too hopeful about the

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Speaker 9: voters of the city, especially considering how this election just

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Speaker 9: worked out. But that goes for Hamilton County as well.

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Speaker 9: You know, when we're seeing that the law law and

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Speaker 9: order judges that are not being re elected. So I

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00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 9: don't have a whole lot of hope for what's going

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Speaker 9: on in this county right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's going to make things worse. Christopher Smithman

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00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 1: said a lot of his financial planning clients moving out

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Speaker 1: of the City of Cincinnati for all these reasons, crime,

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Speaker 1: property taxes, income tax and not getting return on the

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Speaker 1: investment for the taxpayers that are a taxpayer or for

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Speaker 1: the dollars that they spend in taxes. So it's going

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Speaker 1: to only going to exacerbate. If your prediction is true.

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Speaker 1: It follows Christopher's and that is a bad, bad thing

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Speaker 1: on a going forward basis for basically city and Hamilton County. Pause,

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Speaker 1: bring Ken back. Talk about some of the things Provall suggested,

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Speaker 1: like accepting the help from the Ohio Have Care CD

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Speaker 1: talk station. Very happy Wednesday to you. After the top

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Speaker 1: of the hour news we're gonna hear from Jack out

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Speaker 1: ofton with a big picture. I always enjoy that. Currently

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Speaker 1: talking with that FOP president Kenkob represent the sin St

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Speaker 1: Police Department Union and a Hello, I just got a

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Speaker 1: text from a guy I know. You know story career

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Speaker 1: in law enforcement. Retired from the Sin Sint Police Department

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Speaker 1: after multiple years, John Newsom went on to be a

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Speaker 1: Warren County Sheriff. He said, tell Ken hello and then

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Speaker 1: ask him if there are any performance measures regarding the

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Speaker 1: Ohio State Patrol working in the city. Mayor, I have

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Speaker 1: to have pur vault. Yesterday, when talking about this income

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Speaker 1: tax increase, he said also that he intends to continue

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Speaker 1: the city's current public safety initiatives, like extending the partnership

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Speaker 1: with the Ohio State Highway Patrol. Now, when this whole

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Speaker 1: crime thing hit the fan last summer and fall, and

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Speaker 1: they know through this five point four million allocation, part

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Speaker 1: of the concern from people was, wait a second, the

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Speaker 1: governor has offered you thirty days, every single day, every

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Speaker 1: month of the year, assistance across a broad array of

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Speaker 1: law enforcement. But the mayor only chose to take him

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Speaker 1: up on two days a week or two days what

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01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 1: was it a month or a week and then four

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Speaker 1: days he didn't take the entire package. Do we know

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Speaker 1: did Ohio State Highway Patrol's presence, as limited as it was,

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Speaker 1: have any impact on crime? Did it help at all?

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Speaker 1: And if they extend this partnership, do we have these

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01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 1: metrics that can show yes, this is worth doing, Although

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Speaker 1: it does sound like it's worth doing. From my perspective

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Speaker 1: just on its face, Yeah, I.

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Speaker 9: Mean it's certainly worth doing. I know they did have

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Speaker 9: a lot of success, especially using their helicopter from people

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Speaker 9: that were fleeing if we didn't have a drone operator

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01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 9: available to be able to have the helicopter there that

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01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 9: were able to assist in making arrest.

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Speaker 3: So it's certainly worth it.

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Speaker 9: And the interesting part is I talked to Andy Wilson,

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Speaker 9: who's the director of the High Department of Public Safety,

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Speaker 9: which oversees all of these entities for the state. I

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Speaker 9: talked to him yesterday because you know, as we heard

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Speaker 9: the mayor talk about how that they were going to

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Speaker 9: extend this relationship.

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Speaker 12: Of course I pick up then.

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Speaker 9: And I call him and I go, what does this

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Speaker 9: look like? And he did say in fact that yes,

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Speaker 9: he goes, I've talked to Chief Henny. He goes, he's

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Speaker 9: extremely excited about expanding this. He goes, I'm not so

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Speaker 9: sure yet exactly what that means. And of course, you know,

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Speaker 9: I was a bit apprehensive because we certainly saw uh

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Speaker 9: in September, you know, when they offered all these things,

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Speaker 9: and I was in these meetings, and you know, the

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Speaker 9: mayor immediately pushed back and gave, you know, seven different

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Speaker 9: reasons why they couldn't do this, and then of course

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Speaker 9: in the twenty third hour when they were getting ready

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Speaker 9: to start, they mixed it. And then they went back

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Speaker 9: a week later and said, Okay, well we'll do some things.

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Speaker 9: But to your point, I'm going to get a hold

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Speaker 9: of the director today and see if they have any

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Speaker 9: metrics that they can provide of because they keep stats

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Speaker 9: for everything. It would be nice to know, Okay, what

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Speaker 9: is our even though it's technically not costing the city anything,

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Speaker 9: it's costing taxpayers. You have to have these troopers down here,

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Speaker 9: But what is what's the return on investment? I think

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Speaker 9: that's important for people to know.

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Speaker 1: I agree with that, and I guess we are still

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Speaker 1: down a lot of police officers, at least in terms

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Speaker 1: of the contingent in the city of Cincinnati. One of

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Speaker 1: the efforts was we need to hire more police. We

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Speaker 1: need to do lateral hires because it takes a while

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Speaker 1: to get a recruit class through and get them up

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Speaker 1: and running. We wouldn't need the Ohigo State Highway Patrol

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Speaker 1: if we had enough police officers to start with. I mean,

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Speaker 1: isn't that the core of the problem, right? Now insufficient

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Speaker 1: police officer power.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, without a doubt.

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Speaker 9: I mean they just they authorized a class of thirty laterals.

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Speaker 9: We have a class of seven that's starting.

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Speaker 1: Seven three weeks to my next question, exactly what I

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Speaker 1: was going to ask you, Let's say we had this

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01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:41,640
Speaker 1: fund that this new income tax or this whatever pile

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Speaker 1: of money would be exclusively allocated for the purpose of

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Speaker 1: hiring new police officers and boosting the ranks of the

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Speaker 1: CINCINNTI Police Department. Can we even do that in this

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Speaker 1: anti police environment created by all these left wing nut

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Speaker 1: jobs which made policing, which used to be a laudable

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Speaker 1: and a lofty and well respected profession, which has reduced

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Speaker 1: it now to something that no one wants to do.

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Speaker 1: So is there any way to overcome the challenge of

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Speaker 1: even hiring people?

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Speaker 9: Well, the answer right now is I don't think there's

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Speaker 9: a way to overcome it. I mean, we saw what

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Speaker 9: happened back in July and August and September after the

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Speaker 9: fourth and Elm brawl that occurred, you know, where you

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Speaker 9: had investigators that were being ordered by city officials to

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Speaker 9: sign criminal charges when the prosecutor's officers they weren't warranted

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Speaker 9: who wants to work in those conditions. And then now

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Speaker 9: on top of it, now they're talking about raising taxes.

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Speaker 9: Who wants to come into work in the city of

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Speaker 9: Cincinnati when you're going to pay more taxes. I mean,

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Speaker 9: these are all things that, whether they believe it or not,

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Speaker 9: are having an impact on being able to hire police officers.

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Speaker 9: And we've seen this. Now we do have a metric.

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Speaker 9: Let's talk about metrics. They authorized thirty lateral recruits and

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Speaker 9: we got seven. What's that tell you? That tells you

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Speaker 9: everything you need to know.

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Speaker 1: It's scary right there. Yeah, I mean for the people

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Speaker 1: who hate the police, you know, mission accomplished congratulation on

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01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 1: undermining what used to be a respected profession and bringing

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Speaker 1: about a lot of crime in our cities for want

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Speaker 1: of police officers. That's a Paul and Ken, it really is.

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Speaker 1: And I'm glad you brought that up because that's been

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Speaker 1: my sort of looming question in the back of my mind.

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Speaker 1: You know, if we're I mean, is there enough money

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Speaker 1: in terms of salary that we could offer someone to

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Speaker 1: become a police officer? If you, I mean you had

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01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 1: a figure in mind that could overcome this challenge, we

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01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 1: got thirty open spots we're hiring. Is there a dollar

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01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 1: figure associated with that would say, Okay, we're going to

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01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:34,960
Speaker 1: not kind of seven, we're gonna have a full contingent

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Speaker 1: of thirty. In fact, we're gonna have to turn away

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01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 1: fifty people because we don't have enough space or money

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Speaker 1: for them. What's the figure? If money is the object.

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Speaker 9: I'm sure there is a figure, but I can tell

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Speaker 9: you apparently the City of Cincinnati it's not there, because

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Speaker 9: when you're only getting seven out of thirty, I would

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01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:53,920
Speaker 9: say that the money's not there at least yet. And

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Speaker 9: you know, we'll see what happens. They talking to the

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Speaker 9: mayor talked about yesterday about all these historic investments and

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01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:02,520
Speaker 9: public safety over twenty twenty six or we're going to

1253
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:04,440
Speaker 9: see what that is because we're going to be negotiating

1254
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:06,400
Speaker 9: a contract at the end of the year, so we're

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Speaker 9: going to see just how his historic the investments are.

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Speaker 1: Joe's comment, that's going to be fun. Ken Kober, can

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Speaker 1: you we'll pause, we'll bring it back because I'm going

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01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 1: to ask you about this camera situation over in the

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Speaker 1: West End, because apparently after parlwall Is waiting to hear

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Speaker 1: from the since ain't the talk Station six fifty one

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Speaker 1: pitch about krcity Talk Station FP president Ken Cober on

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Speaker 1: the program talking about crime in the downtown Cincinnati and

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Speaker 1: the problems associated with on the heels of the matter.

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Speaker 1: After have Parawall getting sworn in within ten seconds of

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Speaker 1: his statement starking about increasing the income tax in the

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Speaker 1: city for public safety, along with affordable housing and a

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Speaker 1: whole litany of other things. How about one hundred and

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01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars that they allocated last September for cameras

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Speaker 1: over in the West End, cameras that had been promised

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Speaker 1: to the friends over in the West End. Since let's

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Speaker 1: see here, Dominic Davis got shot and killed in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty three, that's when they're first talking about installing cameras.

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Speaker 1: Then we have the death of a kreener we read

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Speaker 1: eleven year old killed in the park very close to

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Speaker 1: where Dominic was gotten down, and still no cameras. One

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01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:11,920
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand dollars is allocated, and yet we

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01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:13,800
Speaker 1: don't even know if the cameras are up, and neither

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Speaker 1: does the mayor. The mayor said yesterday that since a

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Speaker 1: police department does have cameras in the West End, but

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Speaker 1: doesn't know how many or how many still need to

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Speaker 1: be installed. Quote. CPD is doing the work to identify

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Speaker 1: those numbers, and as soon as we he and the

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Speaker 1: mouse in his pocket have them, we will make them

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Speaker 1: available to you. I think that's a fun fact he

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Speaker 1: probably should have had when he was sworn in ken Kober.

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Speaker 1: What is with the cameras? How does it take so long?

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Speaker 1: And I know they don't necessarily prevent crime, but they

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Speaker 1: go a long way to solving crime and provide some

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Speaker 1: people a measure of comfort. What's going on with this?

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Speaker 1: How much control do you have over where those cameras

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Speaker 1: are and how many there are?

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Speaker 9: Well, here's the interesting part about this. So the city

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Speaker 9: has the police Department has access between city owned cameras,

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Speaker 9: other entities that own cameras that they give the city

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Speaker 9: access to that maintains them. The police department has access

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Speaker 9: to roughly eight hundred cameras throughout the entire city. They

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Speaker 9: also have two people that are responsible for installing and

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Speaker 9: maintaining these cameras, two people for eight hundred cameras. The

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Speaker 9: other interesting part of this is in order for them

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Speaker 9: to be able to go do maintenance on these cameras.

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Speaker 9: To install cameras, they have to have this is a

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Speaker 9: big surprise, a bucket truck to be able to go

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Speaker 9: do these things. The police department does not have a

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Speaker 9: bucket truck and they can only get access to a

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Speaker 9: bucket truck if another city department says, yeah, there's one.

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Speaker 1: Available for you to use.

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Speaker 9: So this sounds a whole lot like what we saw

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Speaker 9: that occurred over the summer where they decided, hey, we're

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Speaker 9: gonna do all these walking patrols, and when they were

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Speaker 9: told by Chief Fiji, we don't have the personnel to

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Speaker 9: fill this, their response was figure it out. Oh now,

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Speaker 9: so this is the same thing that happened. You have

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Speaker 9: politicians that go, this sounds really good. We're gonna go

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Speaker 9: in front of a camera. We're gonna say we'renna allocate

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Speaker 9: on hund fifty thousand dollars that we're going to put

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Speaker 9: cameras up, and they're going to do this. Well, if

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Speaker 9: you don't have the means to be able to do

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Speaker 9: these things, how do you expect us to get done

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Speaker 9: the problem that you have?

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Speaker 1: And it takes so damn It seems like such a

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Speaker 1: simple thing to accomplish Kent really does. I mean, everybody

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Speaker 1: and his brother's got a camera on their house anymore,

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Speaker 1: ring doorbell. I know that's probably not an adequate types

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Speaker 1: camera solution, but this is not some sort of multi

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Speaker 1: billion dollar modern technology that you got to acquire. This

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Speaker 1: has been existing out there in the world for a

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Speaker 1: long time, and it seems to be a simple manner

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Speaker 1: to put them up and give the voters and the

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Speaker 1: residents what they have been promised for two and a

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Speaker 1: half years.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, without a doubt. So you decide we're going to

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Speaker 9: invest one hundred and fifty thousand dollars in cameras, but

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Speaker 9: we don't have the equipment for them to install them.

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Speaker 9: We don't have the people to go out and maintain

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Speaker 9: install these cameras. But yet they expect us to get done.

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Speaker 9: I mean, that's that's silliness to think that this is

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Speaker 9: going to happen. We know that a politician would never

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Speaker 9: just say something to try to appease the community.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, we know that they.

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Speaker 9: Would never just throw money at a problem. But unfortunately,

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Speaker 9: in this case, that's exactly what it seems like has happened.

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Speaker 1: Well. Among the safety plan that he had mentioned permanently

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Speaker 1: implementing walking patrols in the city that requires the manpower

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Speaker 1: that you said does not exist. Building onto the city's

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Speaker 1: bike patrols. That seems to me to present the exact

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Speaker 1: same problem. Investing in technology like license plate readers, so

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Speaker 1: the Sincini Police Department's drone and the Sinsi Police Martment's

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Speaker 1: drone program that requires folks to monitor and read the

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Speaker 1: data that's coming in, assuming they even put those up.

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Speaker 1: I understand that's like the flock camera kind of deal.

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Speaker 1: And then finally investing in programs that had proven to

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Speaker 1: mitigate crime. I don't even know what that means, but

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Speaker 1: it sounds like the vast majority of the proposals from

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Speaker 1: the mayor require a lot more police officers. And again,

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Speaker 1: going back to your point, if you can't get an

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Speaker 1: open wide offer for thirty spots filled, you only get

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Speaker 1: seven applicants, you can't accomplish the proposed goals.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, this is the problem. All these things

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Speaker 9: sound fantastic. Let's have walking patrols. Where are you gonna

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Speaker 9: put the walking patrols? Where are you gonna put them?

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Speaker 9: Are you gonna put them in high crime areas? And

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Speaker 9: tell these officers are gonna pair them up and tell

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Speaker 9: them to go out and do proactive work to arrest criminals.

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Speaker 9: If you're gonna say that, you're gonna do it and

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Speaker 9: you're gonna support them, I think it's a great idea.

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Speaker 9: But if it's gonna be like what we saw this

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Speaker 9: past summer where they said, oh, well, we're gonna put

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Speaker 9: people on Vine and Main Street between Central Parkway and

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Speaker 9: Liberty where no data suggests that there's been an increase

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Speaker 9: in crime. Everything's been in north Over the Rhine. But

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Speaker 9: all we're gonna do is walk around because we're going

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Speaker 9: to protect all the three CDC businesses. That doesn't make

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Speaker 9: much good sense, but that's exactly what we saw. They

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Speaker 9: actually went as far as to say, well, we gotta

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Speaker 9: have walking patrols in Washington Park. Well, there hasn't been

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Speaker 9: an increase in crime in Washington Park, so why are

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Speaker 9: we going to do this. While we're gonna do it

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Speaker 9: because the marises we're gonna do it doesn't make any sense.

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Speaker 9: This is the problem that I've had with the mayor

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Speaker 9: all along is stay out of policing. You're not a

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Speaker 9: police officer, you're not a law enforcement professional. Never have

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Speaker 9: been let the police department run the police department, and

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Speaker 9: maybe you'll see things change. But until that happens, we're

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Speaker 9: going to see a lot of in twenty twenty six

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Speaker 9: and we solw twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: Five, and I'll add along and double down on my

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Speaker 1: earlier comment. It doesn't cost a dime for the mayor

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Speaker 1: and the members of the Cincinna City Council to come

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Speaker 1: out and go around the various communities and make regular

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Speaker 1: public service announcements that we should be supporting the Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: Police and stop demonizing them, work with them, make phone calls,

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Speaker 1: hand in tips, help control the crime in your neighborhood

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Speaker 1: by working cooperative with the cincinn Police Department. That's a

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Speaker 1: simple statement. I just made it up off the top

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Speaker 1: of my head, and I think that might go a

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Speaker 1: long way without additional tax revenue.

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Speaker 9: Can without a doubt, adding tax revenue is not going

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Speaker 9: to help anything. Like I said, you can try to

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Speaker 9: throw money out a problem. Money's not going to solve

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Speaker 9: a problem. It's just not going to.

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Speaker 1: Now when you can't get people to be police officers.

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Speaker 1: FOP President Cancobra on behalf of my entire listening audience

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Speaker 1: and my family, to you and every member of law enforcement.

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Speaker 1: God bless each and every one of you. I hope

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Speaker 1: this year is a better for all of us, and

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Speaker 1: I wish you all the best. Seven oh six Bitty

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Speaker 1: five Kersee de Talk Station. Very happy Wednesday. Action packed

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Speaker 1: Wednesday here on the Pitty five Kerse Morning Show, packed

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Speaker 1: with guests and today I always look forward to for

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Speaker 1: a variety of reasons, not the least of which is

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Speaker 1: right now the big picture with Jack advit in the

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Speaker 1: brilliance of Jack adad and coming through every Wednesday. At

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Speaker 1: this time it is appointment listening and I hear from

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Speaker 1: listeners all the time. Jack, they love your commentary. Welcome back,

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Speaker 1: my friend, in a very happy new year to you

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Speaker 1: and your beautiful bride, Ainsley.

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Speaker 5: Shin Jackson, that's what you're call me. Thank you, Happy

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Speaker 5: now and happy new year everybody. We're planning to talk

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Speaker 5: about the completely opposite way Democrats and Republicans see people,

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Speaker 5: But first, Brian, can I offer a few thoughts about Venezuela.

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Speaker 1: Love to hear him. Jack.

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Speaker 5: There is a legitimate dispute, even among Trump supporters, about

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Speaker 5: a president's powers as commander in chief under Article two

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01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:02,200
Speaker 5: of the Constitution yet. But remember, as I know you do,

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Speaker 5: Brian Congress under Article one has not declared war since

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Speaker 5: Pearl Harbor eighty four years ago. Harry Truman, a Democrat,

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Speaker 5: relied on the UN, not Congress to fight the so

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01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:20,400
Speaker 5: called police action in Korea that killed fifty four thousand

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Speaker 5: Americans over three years. Lyndon Johnson, another Democrat, was knee

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01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:29,080
Speaker 5: deep in Vietnam by the time Congress passed not a

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01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:33,240
Speaker 5: declaration of war but relatively the Gulf of tom Kin Resolution.

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01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:37,760
Speaker 5: The Vietnam War killed at least fifty eight thousand Americans,

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Speaker 5: closer to Venezuela in every sense. Republican George H. W.

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01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:48,599
Speaker 5: Bush the Elder invaded Panama with twenty four thousand US

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Speaker 5: troops on the ground, extracted and prosecuted Panama's Manuel Noriega,

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Speaker 5: and installed an opposition leader, all without seeking Congressional authorzation

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Speaker 5: and with the courts upholding his actions. Noriega had been

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Speaker 5: accused is so familiar. He'd been accused of drug trafficking

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Speaker 5: and threatening America's interest in the Panama Canal. For Senior

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Speaker 5: called his invasion operation just cause There's more. Democrat Bill Clinton,

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01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:25,599
Speaker 5: with authorization from NATO not Congress bombed the hell out

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Speaker 5: of Slobodon Belosovich in Yugoslavia. Slobo only gave up when

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Speaker 5: Clinton threatened without Congress to put US troops quote back

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Speaker 5: on the table. Then yet another Democrat, a former teacher

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01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:42,960
Speaker 5: of constitutional law, you figure knew something about this stuff.

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01:15:43,160 --> 01:15:47,639
Speaker 5: Barack Obama launched more than five hundred and forty separate

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Speaker 5: drone strikes in Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, killing soldiers and civilians,

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Speaker 5: including American citizens. And that's not including strikes in the

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Speaker 5: undeclared war zones of Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, and Libya, all

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Speaker 5: without a peep from big mouth congressional Democrats. Last, and

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Speaker 5: by all measures least, Joe Biden or his auto pen

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Speaker 5: raised a bounty on the head of Nicholas Maduro. Good

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Speaker 5: old Joe would never kill anyone. He just hires somebody

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Speaker 5: to do it. And hiring somebody to kill an head

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Speaker 5: of state probably is an active war. Fellow Democrats once

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Speaker 5: again said nothing.

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Speaker 3: Folks.

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Speaker 5: My point is that undeclared wars for seventy five years

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Speaker 5: have been made waged when it was still at least

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Speaker 5: the possibility of bipartisan authorization. Now in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 5: No one who follows politics, certainly nobody in your brilliant audience.

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Speaker 5: Brian believes Democrats would ever back any action by Donald J.

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Speaker 1: Trump.

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Speaker 5: As recently as a year ago, I would have bet

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Speaker 5: against Senator Chuck Schumer selling out Israel to Hamas. Yet

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Speaker 5: the Senate Minority leader cannot or trying to retain power,

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Speaker 5: will not even back Trump peace agreements in the Middle East.

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Speaker 5: So where does that leave us in a constitutional mess?

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Speaker 5: The president is not only commander in chief. Article two,

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Speaker 5: Section three of the Constitution also requires that presidents take

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Speaker 5: care to faithfully execute the laws, including drug laws allegedly

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Speaker 5: broken by narco terrorists, as Bush did against Noriega. So yes,

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Speaker 5: Congress has the power to declare war, but the need

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Speaker 5: to declare war is still debated, even under the nineteen

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Speaker 5: seventy three War Powers Resolution. Personally, Brian, I believe in

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Speaker 5: the Constitution yet, but I also believe the Constitution is

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Speaker 5: not a suicide pact barring any possibility of consensus of compromise.

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Speaker 5: I do not believe in paralysis. Ultimately, I believe in

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Speaker 5: the ballot box, as Maduro and Putin and Jijiungping do not.

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Speaker 5: If voters disagree with an American president about these disputed issues.

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Speaker 5: They can vote for a new Congress every two years,

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Speaker 5: including this year, and a new president every four years. Meantime,

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Speaker 5: the inability, the unwillingness of Congress to act at least

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Speaker 5: when a Republican is in power, I believe stems from

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Speaker 5: something other than the Constitution. Congress is driven by the

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Speaker 5: entirely different way Republicans and Democrats see people. So maybe

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Speaker 5: we can talk about that next.

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Speaker 1: But I did want to pass along to you or

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Speaker 1: my comment in response to judgment of paul A Tana's column,

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Speaker 1: which I'm going to talking with him about a day

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Speaker 1: thirty and not surprisingly the same subject matter, the extra

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Speaker 1: constitutional waging of war in spot what the Constitution say?

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Speaker 1: And you know? I said, you know, I asking him

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Speaker 1: sort of rhetorically. Are you and I merely dinosaurs with

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Speaker 1: our respect for the Constitution? I said, I speak with

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Speaker 1: so many people on the topic of war and always

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Speaker 1: end up runing into the same conclusion decades as you

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Speaker 1: just went through, of unchecked consequence, free unilateral decision making

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Speaker 1: on matters of war now serve as a legal justification

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Speaker 1: for further unilateral decisions. I even suggested to it. It's

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Speaker 1: almost like the concept of waiver estopel or latches, you know,

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Speaker 1: if you let something go long enough that you can't

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Speaker 1: assert the law as you know, as a vehicle to

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Speaker 1: stop that from happening. Again. No, we've been doing this

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01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:33,479
Speaker 1: for so long you've waived your right to make the argument.

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Speaker 1: You get back to mazag day and in fifty three

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Speaker 1: Ellen Days seventy three you mentioned nor Jegan eighty nine.

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Speaker 1: You could go through a whole bunch of others. I mean,

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Speaker 1: even the Bay of Pigs. Was that an authorized military

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Speaker 1: force to overthrow castor after we helped them, you know,

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Speaker 1: win in Cuba, don't know.

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Speaker 5: And by the way, Brian, in fairness, I didn't include

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Speaker 5: Ronald Reagan and Grenada exactly. Of course, a much more

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Speaker 5: limited action.

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Speaker 1: But I'm sorry, go ahead, now, you and I could

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Speaker 1: put our minds together and talk about a whole bunch

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01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:03,040
Speaker 1: of actions along those same lines. And that's an excellent

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Speaker 1: additional point. It just says that all the you know,

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Speaker 1: the designated strikes in these foreign lands with missiles, as

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Speaker 1: you mentioned, with Obama and everybody else seemed to doing.

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01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:14,960
Speaker 1: And I concluded with it seems that Congressional in action.

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01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:19,040
Speaker 1: In other words, ignoring the Constitution is perhaps the desired,

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01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:23,680
Speaker 1: accepted norm across the political spectrum. The Democrats do it

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01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:26,160
Speaker 1: when they're in power. The Republicans scream and wale and

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01:20:26,160 --> 01:20:28,360
Speaker 1: moan about the Constitution, yet do nothing by way of

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Speaker 1: congressional action or anything else to stop it from happening.

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Speaker 1: And then look who put the bounty on Medoro last year,

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden? Was it twenty five million or fifty million dollars?

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Speaker 1: I mean, if there's a bounty on someone's head, doesn't

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Speaker 1: that mean you expect someone to go and collect the

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01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:44,719
Speaker 1: bounty after grabbing the head and bringing it forth. Who's

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01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:46,600
Speaker 1: going to do that? Nobody but the American military is

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01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:48,759
Speaker 1: going to enter into a foreign country and grab the leader.

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Speaker 1: Yet there it was the dangling carrot of a bounty

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Speaker 1: out there. So we make good on it through the

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01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:56,640
Speaker 1: Trump administration, and they scream and yell about it, and

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01:20:56,680 --> 01:20:59,160
Speaker 1: yet you don't see really anything happening in respond. So

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01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:03,920
Speaker 1: it's sort of this in action in it allows for

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01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:07,760
Speaker 1: the expedient mechanism of dealing with what you talked about

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01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:09,880
Speaker 1: that you know, you don't want the Constitution to just,

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01:21:10,120 --> 01:21:13,880
Speaker 1: you know, turn us into this easy sitting target, but

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01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:18,280
Speaker 1: it is still there. The authority rest within Congress. I

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01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:20,840
Speaker 1: just think they prefer it this way because it's well

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01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:23,080
Speaker 1: they have to face the voters. They may get voted

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01:21:23,120 --> 01:21:25,559
Speaker 1: out of office if they do vote in favor of military

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01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:27,640
Speaker 1: action or against military action. They don't want to have

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01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:28,960
Speaker 1: to deal with it. They wash their hands of it,

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01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:31,519
Speaker 1: blaming it Trump or whoever the sitting president is, and

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Speaker 1: go about their merry business.

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Speaker 5: I always feel, as I bet you Drew Twopell, when

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Speaker 5: we're talking about the good Judge Neapolitano, that I'm back

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01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:43,240
Speaker 5: in law school, and I certainly don't want to disagree

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Speaker 5: with the professor. It's hard enough just to try to

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01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:51,120
Speaker 5: answer his questions. But a few thoughts. Judge Napolitano, who's

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Speaker 5: probably about my age, doesn't remember Jefferson sending the Marines

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Speaker 5: to the shores of Tripa, Le Libya, to free America

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01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:03,479
Speaker 5: and fight Barbary pirates. But presumably he would have opposed

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01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:07,400
Speaker 5: that two hundred years ago, not long after the Monroe

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Speaker 5: Doctrine was propelled by President James Monroe. And I assume

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Speaker 5: that Judge Depolitano was against the idea of refusing to

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Speaker 5: let Europeans colonize our hemisphere as today Cuba, Russia and

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01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:25,800
Speaker 5: Red China and Iran. I have tried installing surrogates in Venezuela,

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Speaker 5: and that's what we put a stop to. You know

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Speaker 5: the thing, it seems to be Brian and maybe we

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01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:33,679
Speaker 5: can talk about this next week. There are certain people

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Speaker 5: who remind me of my old friend, the ancient Greek

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01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:42,800
Speaker 5: philosopher Zeno, who can prove to you why it's impossible

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01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:46,040
Speaker 5: to move from point A to point B. I won't

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Speaker 5: give away the answer to that famous riddle, but we cannot,

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Speaker 5: as I say, paralyze ourselves. And I'm not sure that

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Speaker 5: I agree with the premise of what you're saying. That

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01:22:54,680 --> 01:22:57,600
Speaker 5: the Constitution is clear on the president not having the

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Speaker 5: power to act militarily. I doe with the idea that Congress,

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Speaker 5: not necessarily with conscious deliberation, but obviously setting a pattern,

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01:23:07,960 --> 01:23:10,560
Speaker 5: do not oppose presidents when they simply don't want to

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01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:11,200
Speaker 5: get involved.

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Speaker 1: Let's pause, will bring Jack back. He had a comment

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01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:15,000
Speaker 1: or two that we didn't get to yet. How democrats

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Speaker 1: see people. Will pause, bring Jack Avidan back with the

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Speaker 1: big picture. We'll call it volume two. This morning, First

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Speaker 1: Foreign Exchange your premier European and Asian Imported Automotive Automotive

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Speaker 1: Vehicle specialist as he certified Master Factory Train Technical seven,

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Speaker 1: nineteen fifty five. KRCD talks Agent right Times with Jack

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Speaker 1: adad In we pivot over to his perception of how

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Speaker 1: Democrats see people, just real quick, the Monroe doctor. And

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Speaker 1: that wasn't a legal document, it wasn't a treaty, it

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Speaker 1: wasn't a statute. It was a foreign policy statement by

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Speaker 1: President Monroe. Which, of course, if you want to agree

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Speaker 1: with and follow through with that foreign policy statement involving

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Speaker 1: matters of war, you might expect some measure of congressional involvement.

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01:23:52,560 --> 01:23:55,760
Speaker 1: But now you've got the Donro doctor where he's trying

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01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:57,960
Speaker 1: to shore up this hemisphere and keep the Chinese out

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01:23:57,960 --> 01:24:00,960
Speaker 1: and keep the Russians out. I understand the concern and

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Speaker 1: the predicate for that, but you know, it is a

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01:24:03,080 --> 01:24:06,400
Speaker 1: foreign policy statement. He is responsible for foreign policy. But

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Speaker 1: along with that comes well taxpayer dollars and military resources

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01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:12,400
Speaker 1: and all the things that go along with you know,

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Speaker 1: establishing and following through with any given foreign policy statements.

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Speaker 1: I'd had to say that out loud, Jack, because we

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Speaker 1: talk about the Monroe doctrine is if it's almost part

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Speaker 1: of the Constitution, but it never was.

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Speaker 5: Big Dohn is acting on the don Rohe doctrine, and

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01:24:28,200 --> 01:24:31,479
Speaker 5: if Congress doesn't like it, they can act. Expoters, of course,

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01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:34,240
Speaker 5: can act in November, and I'm afraid they might in

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01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:36,400
Speaker 5: a way that we don't like, but we'll see. Anyway,

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01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:40,240
Speaker 5: Let's move on from war and talk about something really important.

1607
01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:44,200
Speaker 5: Tis the season for losing weight, or at least for

1608
01:24:44,360 --> 01:24:47,280
Speaker 5: resolving to do that so we feel better and also

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01:24:47,320 --> 01:24:50,960
Speaker 5: so people see us differently. Let's consider this in the

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01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:55,840
Speaker 5: context of politics, the very different way democrats and Republicans

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01:24:56,280 --> 01:24:59,360
Speaker 5: see people. You and I and most folks who tune

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01:24:59,400 --> 01:25:03,280
Speaker 5: intend to agree about most things. Where constitutional conservators and

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01:25:03,320 --> 01:25:07,680
Speaker 5: libertarians many of us are Trump supporters, mega populists. Those

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01:25:07,720 --> 01:25:11,320
Speaker 5: are not just labels. They define how we see the world.

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01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:15,600
Speaker 5: While we may differ sharply on certain issues, including Venezuela,

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01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:20,200
Speaker 5: we embrace what I call the American idea that power

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01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:25,000
Speaker 5: tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Therefore, like

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01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:28,360
Speaker 5: the Founders, we demand a government that protects the God

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01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:33,040
Speaker 5: given rights of individuals and allows us to pursue happiness

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01:25:33,160 --> 01:25:36,360
Speaker 5: and prosperity as we see fit. So long as we

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01:25:36,439 --> 01:25:39,720
Speaker 5: don't infringe on the rights of others. We believe in

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01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:45,560
Speaker 5: bottom up government. In sharp contrast, today's big government socialists

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01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:51,120
Speaker 5: see individuals very differently as members of their collective. In

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01:25:51,200 --> 01:25:55,400
Speaker 5: his inaugural speech, New York's new mayor, Zoran Mamdani just

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01:25:55,520 --> 01:26:00,479
Speaker 5: promised to replace quote the rigidity of rugged individual dualism

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01:26:01,160 --> 01:26:05,720
Speaker 5: with the warmth of collectivism ene and in New York

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01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:09,479
Speaker 5: if he gets his way. Democrats claim they care about people,

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01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:14,519
Speaker 5: especially needy, downtrodden people victims, but they do not seek

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Speaker 5: to empower them. Take education. Democrats in power not students

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01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:24,720
Speaker 5: and parents, but teacher unions, which benefit from keeping children illiterate.

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01:26:25,240 --> 01:26:30,200
Speaker 5: The worse their test scores, the more taxpayer funding they demand.

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Speaker 5: In Baltimore, a Democrat run city, as most big cities

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Speaker 5: now are, including Cincinnati and Dayton, public schools spend more

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Speaker 5: than twenty one thousand dollars per pupil. Teachers make on

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01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:46,559
Speaker 5: average between seventy two and ninety nine thousand dollars plus

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01:26:46,840 --> 01:26:52,080
Speaker 5: gold plated pensions, and yet the overwhelming majority of students

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01:26:52,120 --> 01:26:56,080
Speaker 5: in Baltimore cannot read or do math. When the schools

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01:26:56,120 --> 01:27:00,120
Speaker 5: push them through graduation. Anyway, the kids lack basic skills

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01:27:00,280 --> 01:27:06,360
Speaker 5: to support themselves, so as Democrats intended all along, these

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01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:10,240
Speaker 5: students will be wards of the state, and Democrats will

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01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:13,479
Speaker 5: rake off the top a hefty percentage of the welfare

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01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:18,960
Speaker 5: spending students received throughout life because the Democrat collective collects

1643
01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:24,840
Speaker 5: campaign contributions, kickbacks, crony contracts for donors, and outright bribes.

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01:27:25,400 --> 01:27:29,519
Speaker 5: Nancy Pelosi's father was mayor of Baltimore. That's where Nancy

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01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:32,760
Speaker 5: learned the racket. That public servant and her husband Paul

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01:27:32,800 --> 01:27:37,439
Speaker 5: are now worth more than four hundred million dollars. We

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01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:39,360
Speaker 5: could connect the dots in the same way when it

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01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:44,559
Speaker 5: comes to big government spending on healthcare, housing, food, the

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01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:48,519
Speaker 5: entire life of Julia. That's what you remember Obama called

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01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:52,519
Speaker 5: his cradle to graves spending plan for voters rich and poor,

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01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:57,960
Speaker 5: who were thereby made totally dependent on totalitarian government. Folks

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01:27:58,840 --> 01:28:03,880
Speaker 5: think of the irony, the despicable irony Democrats not that

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01:28:04,040 --> 01:28:08,480
Speaker 5: long ago, with a party of slavery Africans being kidnapped

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01:28:08,520 --> 01:28:12,479
Speaker 5: and shipped here so they could work. Now, Democrats support

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01:28:12,560 --> 01:28:16,760
Speaker 5: millions of illegal immigrants invading this country, so they can

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01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:21,200
Speaker 5: live off the collective representative. Ilan Omar's net worth has

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01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:25,639
Speaker 5: jumped from approximately zero when our Somalian family were granted

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01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:30,200
Speaker 5: asylum to thirty million dollars with their husband today. Is

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01:28:30,240 --> 01:28:34,479
Speaker 5: it coincidental that fraudulent government funds for Somali preschools and

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01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:38,839
Speaker 5: other programs in Minnesota total more than nine billion dollars

1661
01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:43,599
Speaker 5: in counting. Democrats, who used to shackle slaves, now enslaved voters,

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01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:48,719
Speaker 5: from illiterate inner city students without fathers, to academics enslaved

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01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:52,680
Speaker 5: by liberal orthodoxy, to so called journalists who have to

1664
01:28:52,680 --> 01:28:57,000
Speaker 5: tow the liberal line, to multinational business owners who defend

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01:28:57,080 --> 01:29:01,519
Speaker 5: so called free trade that ships vital industries off to

1666
01:29:02,120 --> 01:29:08,599
Speaker 5: communist China with its starvation wages and terras on American imports. Brian,

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01:29:09,560 --> 01:29:15,080
Speaker 5: the essence of Democrat politics is to dehumanize individuals and

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01:29:15,120 --> 01:29:19,040
Speaker 5: make them abjectly dependent on the state. For now, I

1669
01:29:19,080 --> 01:29:21,479
Speaker 5: can come on your show and talk about this, But

1670
01:29:21,600 --> 01:29:25,240
Speaker 5: what will happen if Democrats win Congress this November and

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01:29:25,280 --> 01:29:28,520
Speaker 5: the White House in twenty twenty eight and America returns

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01:29:29,439 --> 01:29:33,160
Speaker 5: to the British model of outlawing free speech, which is

1673
01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:37,639
Speaker 5: what they're doing right now. Look, Republicans are not perfect,

1674
01:29:38,200 --> 01:29:41,880
Speaker 5: and when we champion the American idea, when we resolve

1675
01:29:42,120 --> 01:29:46,479
Speaker 5: as our founders did to protect individual rights and responsibilities,

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01:29:47,080 --> 01:29:51,280
Speaker 5: America can still lead the entire world into a golden age,

1677
01:29:51,760 --> 01:29:56,240
Speaker 5: including those dictatorships that are attacking America, as Maduro did

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01:29:56,320 --> 01:30:00,160
Speaker 5: with the aid of Cuba, Russia, Iran, and communist China.

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01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:05,320
Speaker 5: Until that happens, it's not enough to celebrate seventeen seventy six.

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01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:10,040
Speaker 5: We need to speak out, donate, and work. You do

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01:30:10,120 --> 01:30:12,960
Speaker 5: this every morning. So what do you say, my friend?

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Speaker 1: I say, There's not a word I could utter that

1683
01:30:15,560 --> 01:30:18,479
Speaker 1: can improve upon what you just got done saying. And

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01:30:18,479 --> 01:30:20,840
Speaker 1: I'm going to encourage my listeners to grab a hold

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Speaker 1: of that podcast link at fifty five kres dot com

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01:30:23,280 --> 01:30:27,160
Speaker 1: and share Jack's words with your friends. Jack Atherton as

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01:30:27,240 --> 01:30:31,240
Speaker 1: always profoundly brilliant. I love you man. Happy New Year.

1688
01:30:31,320 --> 01:30:33,719
Speaker 1: We'll do this again next Wednesday with another big picture

1689
01:30:33,760 --> 01:30:35,920
Speaker 1: and I can't thank you for being on my program.

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Speaker 1: Can't wait. Thank you, Brian, Happy New Year again. Seven

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Speaker 1: twenty six ifty five k SIT Talk Stations. Well, you

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01:30:41,479 --> 01:30:43,720
Speaker 1: got a lot of work to do this year, and

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01:30:43,760 --> 01:30:45,599
Speaker 1: I know we can help out my listening. Andy can

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Speaker 1: certainly help out by working with AFP provides all the

1695
01:30:48,080 --> 01:30:51,599
Speaker 1: guidance you need to get involved in politics. Welcome back, Donovan.

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Speaker 1: It's a new year, and a happy new year to you,

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01:30:53,160 --> 01:30:55,040
Speaker 1: sir Brian.

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Speaker 4: It's going to be a big year, and I'm so

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01:30:56,880 --> 01:30:58,479
Speaker 4: excited to be back at it.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's yeah, and I know we're gonna be talking

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01:31:01,520 --> 01:31:03,479
Speaker 1: about the twenty twenty six election a lot this year.

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Speaker 1: Of course, we've got opportunities here. I just a little

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Speaker 1: concerned about the typical norm, which is the party in

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Speaker 1: power loses seats in the House and in the Senate,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not sure if that's going to happen this year,

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Speaker 1: but we do have that to face. But I'm a

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Speaker 1: little concerned about this because one of the topics on

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Speaker 1: the list you wanted to talk about was not returning

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Speaker 1: COVID era subsidies. Of course, I just had a conversation

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Speaker 1: by Cincinnati's budget with the former vice mayor of the

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Speaker 1: City of Cincinnati. One of the problems we're having in

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Speaker 1: the city is because the covid money dried up and

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Speaker 1: they don't have it to hang their hat on anymore.

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Speaker 1: So they got a big hole in their budget. We

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Speaker 1: weren't supposed to be relying on that. Beyond the outbreak

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Speaker 1: of COVID. It's long since gone. And they're still talking

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Speaker 1: about subsidies.

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, and these in particular, are these Obamacare subsidies

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Speaker 4: right that were enacted that funnel three hundred billion dollars. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: not to patients, not to actually bring other premiums, but

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01:31:56,320 --> 01:32:00,360
Speaker 4: to the health insurance companies who are lobbying like is

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Speaker 4: you can imagine, Brian, to.

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Speaker 8: Keep this in place.

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Speaker 4: And for some baffling reason, right, Democrats are continuing their

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Speaker 4: fifteen year march towards saying, if you just give us

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Speaker 4: a little more time, Obamacare will work. It's not working, Brian,

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Speaker 4: and we need to keep Republicans from signing onto this

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Speaker 4: thing and trying to help make it happen because it's

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Speaker 4: broken and it's making our healthcare premiums cost so much more.

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Speaker 4: But fraud, wasted abuse too, Brian. I'm a bit fired

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Speaker 4: up about this one because it hit us instantly at

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Speaker 4: the beginning of the new year. But you know, fraud, waste,

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Speaker 4: and abuse is one of the things they say, Well, hey,

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Speaker 4: what if we root some of that out and we

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Speaker 4: really make sure the money goes to the patients. This time,

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Speaker 4: I point to usaid, there's not enough fraud, waste and

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Speaker 4: abuse protections you could have put into place on that

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01:32:43,680 --> 01:32:47,519
Speaker 4: corrupt slush fund to make it work for whatever intended purposes.

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Speaker 4: It has the same things here with these COVID subsidies.

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01:32:50,080 --> 01:32:52,240
Speaker 4: There's not enough fraud, waste and abuse protections you could

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Speaker 4: put in place. I just don't trust the Federal Garment

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Speaker 4: to be able to do it right, to make sure

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Speaker 4: that that money actually goes for its intended purposes.

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Speaker 1: It's just bad. Well, I mean, we've been struggling with

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Speaker 1: this whole concept of funneling money to non governmental organizations

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Speaker 1: and then not doing any follow up work to see

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Speaker 1: if what they promised to do is actually been done.

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Speaker 1: That's one element, But when you talk about USA, it's

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Speaker 1: not just the fraud, waste and abuse at the end,

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01:33:15,600 --> 01:33:18,719
Speaker 1: but it's also the motivation to give anyone the money

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Speaker 1: in the first place. No, I don't want to fund

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01:33:20,760 --> 01:33:23,639
Speaker 1: shrimp on treadmill research in China. I mean, what the hell?

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Speaker 1: Who chose that and who decided that was a worthy

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Speaker 1: thing to spend tax payer dollars on. But it's just

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Speaker 1: a long or one of a long, long list of

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Speaker 1: stupid programs we're paying for, and whether or not they

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Speaker 1: bore any fruit seems immaterial. The idea that it even

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Speaker 1: started in the first place is batcrap insane.

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, and the same thing with these Biden Earic

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Speaker 4: covid subsidies that Greg Landsmen congresson. Greg Landsman is very

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Speaker 4: likely going to vote on extending for three more years tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: We don't need this money going to the insurance companies

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01:33:52,120 --> 01:33:56,439
Speaker 4: that annually jack up premium prices and do nothing, nothing,

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Speaker 4: Brian to actually bring down the cost of healthcare. They're

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Speaker 4: incentivized with this program to enroll people who don't even

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Speaker 4: need health insurance. Right, we need to just end those

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Speaker 4: programs and focus on policies that are going to empower patients,

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Speaker 4: for programs like HSA's that are going to bring price transparency.

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Speaker 4: There's a lot that can be done, and it doesn't

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Speaker 4: involve just shoveling billions upon billions of taxpayer dollars over

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Speaker 4: to the insurance companies continue a failed Obamacare Biden Covid

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Speaker 4: era program.

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Speaker 1: Well, honestly, all those subsidies do is mask the failure

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Speaker 1: of Obamacare. The premium dollars cover the money that goes

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01:34:32,960 --> 01:34:35,240
Speaker 1: out the door to cover claims. That's an obvious thing.

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Speaker 1: It's the way the private insurance market because they so

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Speaker 1: many people who are sick, and on Obamacare, the expenditures

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01:34:41,439 --> 01:34:44,520
Speaker 1: goes through the roof. But if you give someone a subsidy,

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01:34:44,560 --> 01:34:47,439
Speaker 1: it masks the actual cost of that by hiding the

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Speaker 1: increase in premium that would necessarily follow a massive influx

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Speaker 1: of claims on the program. I mean, it's just the

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01:34:54,000 --> 01:34:55,920
Speaker 1: whole thing was designed to fail from the get go.

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, and that's funny you say that, because

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Speaker 4: that is the we were saying that fifteen years ago.

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Speaker 4: Right when Obamacare is going in, it is to break,

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Speaker 4: it is to build a house of cards, because you

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01:35:07,000 --> 01:35:11,360
Speaker 4: know this, right, Progressives Democrats, the ends justify the means

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01:35:11,680 --> 01:35:14,559
Speaker 4: for them in this case, right, And so making people

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Speaker 4: pay more in premiums, hurting families with rising costs to

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Speaker 4: in that march towards a single payer health care system

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Speaker 4: is what they're in the pursuit of here.

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Speaker 2: And if we extend the subsidies.

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Speaker 4: We're just further fueling that dysfunction and broken policy making

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Speaker 4: that's going to lead us to that eventual conclusion. We

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Speaker 4: don't have to go there, though, Brian. We can turn

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Speaker 4: the page, rechart the course, and actually enact policies that

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Speaker 4: we know as conservatives are going to unleash abundance in

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Speaker 4: the healthcare space again, most importantly by bringing down costs

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Speaker 4: and empowering patients.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, reducing the regulatory burden on the healthcare industry

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Speaker 1: generally speaking might go a long way to reduce overall

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Speaker 1: costs of health care generally. But who am I to

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Speaker 1: say on that? Moving over to candidates, we had talked

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Speaker 1: about some of the state wide candidates you were in

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Speaker 1: that AFP was supporting going into the November election. How

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Speaker 1: about Zach Haynes.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, really excited to break the news on this one

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01:36:08,240 --> 01:36:10,479
Speaker 4: here this morning with you. We're going to have a

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Speaker 4: larger announcement probably next week with a few more races

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Speaker 4: around the state. But I feel like I come on

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Speaker 4: your show, Brian, and I tell your listeners about all

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Speaker 4: these other races we're working on in like Toledo and

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Speaker 4: Cleveland and Columbus, and we've got a real winner here

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Speaker 4: in southwest Ohioai, Zach Haynes. We're excited to endorse him.

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Speaker 4: He's running for State Senate in the seventh Senate district

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Speaker 4: that's going to be current State Senator Steve Wilson's being

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Speaker 4: term limitted out. It covers upper north East Hamilton County

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Speaker 4: and all of Warren County. I don't know if you've

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Speaker 4: had an opportunity to talk with Zach before, but when

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Speaker 4: he came to our office side down talk with him

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Speaker 4: about some of the things we need to do to

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Speaker 4: move Ohio in a big, bull transformational way. I was

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Speaker 4: blown away with his passion, energy, and I think he's

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Speaker 4: going to be a real fighter should the voters decide

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Speaker 4: to send him to Columbus later this year.

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Speaker 1: Well, I know Joe Strucker, executed Executive producer, will work

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Speaker 1: hard to get Zach on the program to talk about that,

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Speaker 1: and I appreciate your endorsement of him and pivoting over.

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Speaker 1: One more thing to talk about. V v Ramaswami, of course,

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Speaker 1: currently running unopposed. He's already received the statewide Republican endorsement.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a lock for V. Vague he has

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Speaker 1: selected a running mate. What do you feel about Rob McCauley.

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Speaker 4: So, actually, personally, I've known Rob McCauley since he was

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Speaker 4: a state representative in northwest Ohio.

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Speaker 7: My wife and I lived up there.

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Speaker 4: Rob is a phenomenal conservative. He is somebody who, through

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Speaker 4: the years that I've known him, being a legislator in

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Speaker 4: both the House and the Senate and most recently the

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Speaker 4: Senate President, fight to lower taxes. In fact, his chamber

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Speaker 4: was the chamber moved that introduced an amendment to the

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Speaker 4: state budget that made ohioly flat tax state. That was

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Speaker 4: the Senate Chamber led by him currently, that got that

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Speaker 4: into the budget and made it happen. Lowering taxes, cutting

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Speaker 4: red tape, curbing spending, empowering families with school choice. Rob

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Speaker 4: McCauley is the true I mean, he's the real deal.

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Speaker 4: If you get a meet him, you get to talk

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Speaker 4: to him, you'll realize that very quickly. And there were

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Speaker 4: a lot of good folks floated to be of a

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Speaker 4: Vakes running mate, but I think Rob McCauley is top tier.

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Speaker 4: And one is going to be the kind of guy,

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Speaker 4: right if the VEK is that visionary who's going to

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Speaker 4: chart a bold course for the state. Rob the kind

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Speaker 4: of guy who understands what it's going to take to

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Speaker 4: work with the legislature to get that agenda passed and through,

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Speaker 4: which isn't always a guaranteed thing, even in a super

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Speaker 4: majority Republican state like Ohio. So I'm really excited about Rob,

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Speaker 4: not just as a friend of mine, but as somebody

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Speaker 4: who I've seen legislate. I've seen sat in interested party

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Speaker 4: meetings in Columbus with legislators and lobbyists. He's a real

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Speaker 4: deal and Vivke's lucky to have him.

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Speaker 1: As I pointed out when we started talking again, Donovan,

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Speaker 1: Americans for Prosperities provides an opportunity for the listeners to

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Speaker 1: really get engaged and get involved. Call to action, Donovan,

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Speaker 1: where do we need to go to keep up with

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Speaker 1: things if we want to help out.

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Speaker 11: Buckeye Blueprint dot Com.

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Speaker 4: We're going to have a lot of updates of Buckeye

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Speaker 4: Blueprint dot Com over the next few weeks as we

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Speaker 4: get things fired up for this year.

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Speaker 1: It's a big year.

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Speaker 4: We're going to need as many people as we can

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Speaker 4: to lockshields with us and help make this happen.

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Speaker 1: Be part of the solution. Buckeye Blueprint dot Com work

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Speaker 1: with AFP Donald O'Neil. I enjoy our discussions. I'll look

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Speaker 1: forward to next week with another one. Keep up the

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Speaker 1: great working again to you and everyone at AFP. A

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Speaker 1: very happy new year you as well.

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Speaker 7: Brian, take care.

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Speaker 1: Seventh thirty nine here fifty five care see detalk station

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Speaker 1: Coming up next, Steve Belzo, Cleima County Veteran Services is

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about little veteran related needs. Tons of services

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Speaker 1: offered by the Clement County Veteran Services and every county

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Speaker 1: has one. Steve Belzo is with the Clermont County Veteran Services.

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Speaker 1: They do a fantastic job and Steve is always a

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Speaker 1: pleasure having in the studio. Man. Welcome back and a

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Speaker 1: happy near to you and everybody else at Clemon County

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Speaker 1: Veteran Services.

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Speaker 12: Brian brother, thanks for what you do for us, and

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Speaker 12: it is. It's a good new year, so we'll try

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Speaker 12: it off the ground. We're not pushing up daisies. We

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Speaker 12: may complain about small ailments, but yet we're still breathing.

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Speaker 11: Right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I'm telling you off area here. It's

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Speaker 1: the seventh of January, and I feel like we've already

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Speaker 1: is enough profoundly impactful news stories for like six months

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Speaker 1: worth of life, right right?

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Speaker 12: Actually, yeah, we have news commentators that are speed reading

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Speaker 12: right now after are teleprompters. There's so much.

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Speaker 1: Well, there's always though, something positive in all of the mix,

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Speaker 1: as you just pointed out, so that we're gonna be

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Speaker 1: positive about going into the new year. So you run

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01:40:21,240 --> 01:40:23,760
Speaker 1: into little, you know, the lemons that life will hand,

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01:40:23,760 --> 01:40:25,719
Speaker 1: you make lemonade out of them, or just search around

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01:40:25,720 --> 01:40:28,599
Speaker 1: for something else that is positive, and you'll at least

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Speaker 1: have that to look at and be thankful for, which

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Speaker 1: is what I try to do as I live my

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Speaker 1: life now with that in mind. My veteran friends out there,

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Speaker 1: we have talked about some common misconceptions, and it always

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Speaker 1: puzzled me that it seemed to me that a lifetime

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Speaker 1: worth of health care, which is what you are pretty

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Speaker 1: much entitled to as long as you faithfully serve your

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Speaker 1: country and get a DD two fourteen discharge edition, is

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Speaker 1: kind of an incentive. It's like a pension program. You know,

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Speaker 1: if there's a job offering you a pension and one

1915
01:41:01,360 --> 01:41:03,680
Speaker 1: that's not, you might consider the pension job because that's

1916
01:41:03,720 --> 01:41:06,360
Speaker 1: an extra perk that somebody else isn't offering. So you

1917
01:41:06,400 --> 01:41:08,320
Speaker 1: may not make all the money in the world serving

1918
01:41:08,360 --> 01:41:12,200
Speaker 1: your country, but you're doing something that's profoundly important. It

1919
01:41:12,280 --> 01:41:15,639
Speaker 1: shows profound respect for your country. You're defending our nation

1920
01:41:15,760 --> 01:41:19,640
Speaker 1: from adversaries foreign and domestic. And you also get a

1921
01:41:19,640 --> 01:41:24,320
Speaker 1: livetime of free health care almost almost almost. There are

1922
01:41:24,320 --> 01:41:27,120
Speaker 1: categories in there, honest, and that's why we have you.

1923
01:41:27,400 --> 01:41:30,519
Speaker 1: But that's right that veterans who are eligible for it

1924
01:41:31,000 --> 01:41:34,000
Speaker 1: just pass on it or don't sign up. This is

1925
01:41:34,000 --> 01:41:35,679
Speaker 1: what we're going to try to focus on today.

1926
01:41:35,760 --> 01:41:40,559
Speaker 12: Absolutely, there's yeah, there's if you can consider this in

1927
01:41:40,600 --> 01:41:43,320
Speaker 12: this matrix, here's Joe and when did you serve and

1928
01:41:43,400 --> 01:41:46,920
Speaker 12: how many years? And you're following this flow chart. But

1929
01:41:47,080 --> 01:41:49,840
Speaker 12: it's what's running in the mind of many veterans of

1930
01:41:50,800 --> 01:41:55,360
Speaker 12: you know, there's especially from our older generation, our parents,

1931
01:41:55,760 --> 01:42:00,000
Speaker 12: the children that grew from parents that came through the depression.

1932
01:42:00,640 --> 01:42:02,400
Speaker 12: You straighten every nail, you throw it in the bucket,

1933
01:42:02,439 --> 01:42:05,120
Speaker 12: you pick up every penny. Nothing goes to waste. There's

1934
01:42:05,120 --> 01:42:07,439
Speaker 12: only a limited amount to go around. There's victory gardens

1935
01:42:07,560 --> 01:42:12,320
Speaker 12: going in and so those children from those parents, well,

1936
01:42:12,680 --> 01:42:14,040
Speaker 12: I don't want to go to get to the VA

1937
01:42:14,080 --> 01:42:16,880
Speaker 12: and get a set of hearing aids because I can

1938
01:42:16,960 --> 01:42:19,320
Speaker 12: hear the TV if I turn it up loud enough. Well,

1939
01:42:19,360 --> 01:42:22,160
Speaker 12: so can three apartments down here in your TV. But

1940
01:42:22,240 --> 01:42:25,000
Speaker 12: yet they're afraid that if I take those hearing aids,

1941
01:42:25,439 --> 01:42:28,800
Speaker 12: another veteran that needs a more than me is not

1942
01:42:28,840 --> 01:42:31,880
Speaker 12: going to get their hearing aids. And that's an upside

1943
01:42:31,920 --> 01:42:35,719
Speaker 12: down way to think about it, because the VA actually

1944
01:42:35,760 --> 01:42:39,160
Speaker 12: gets their budget off of the amount of veterans signed

1945
01:42:39,240 --> 01:42:41,880
Speaker 12: up for healthcare, which means they're going to get a

1946
01:42:41,880 --> 01:42:44,960
Speaker 12: bigger budget and they can afford more hearing aids and

1947
01:42:44,960 --> 01:42:46,280
Speaker 12: they're not going to run out of stock.

1948
01:42:46,600 --> 01:42:49,439
Speaker 1: Right And I among my listening audience and my personal

1949
01:42:49,520 --> 01:42:52,640
Speaker 1: perception is, you know, if there is a worthy expenditure

1950
01:42:52,680 --> 01:42:57,240
Speaker 1: of taxpayer dollars, our veteran community is a worthy expenditure,

1951
01:42:57,360 --> 01:42:59,120
Speaker 1: you know, because we're filled with the government likes to

1952
01:42:59,120 --> 01:43:01,759
Speaker 1: pay for literally every thing. Most of it is batcrap, insane,

1953
01:43:01,800 --> 01:43:05,080
Speaker 1: but these are folks that, you know, literally put their

1954
01:43:05,120 --> 01:43:06,080
Speaker 1: lives on the line.

1955
01:43:06,920 --> 01:43:11,080
Speaker 12: It's going back to the founding father, maybe Abraham Lincoln,

1956
01:43:11,120 --> 01:43:13,920
Speaker 12: whether you consider him founding father or not yet for

1957
01:43:14,040 --> 01:43:17,400
Speaker 12: him to quote, to care for him who has.

1958
01:43:17,280 --> 01:43:19,440
Speaker 1: Borne the battle exactly.

1959
01:43:19,479 --> 01:43:22,799
Speaker 12: He's been the presence of America either on foreign shores

1960
01:43:23,280 --> 01:43:24,440
Speaker 12: for our interests.

1961
01:43:24,800 --> 01:43:27,960
Speaker 1: So in other words, for that veteran who wasn't getting

1962
01:43:27,960 --> 01:43:30,160
Speaker 1: the hearing aids turning the TV up, and not only

1963
01:43:30,240 --> 01:43:34,599
Speaker 1: is that person overlooking the cognitive decline and other health

1964
01:43:34,640 --> 01:43:37,599
Speaker 1: issues that will go along with that. Absolutely, by not

1965
01:43:37,640 --> 01:43:41,439
Speaker 1: getting the hearing aids the V eight, he's maybe reducing

1966
01:43:41,439 --> 01:43:43,200
Speaker 1: the likelihood that somebody else is going to get hearing

1967
01:43:43,240 --> 01:43:44,360
Speaker 1: aids because of funding levels.

1968
01:43:44,439 --> 01:43:47,200
Speaker 12: Because of funding levels, or he's spending six to eight

1969
01:43:47,200 --> 01:43:49,560
Speaker 12: thousand dollars out on the open market. That's yeah, I

1970
01:43:49,600 --> 01:43:51,120
Speaker 12: know for us out of hearing aids, right, I mean

1971
01:43:51,120 --> 01:43:51,839
Speaker 12: they're expensive.

1972
01:43:52,960 --> 01:43:54,920
Speaker 1: Well, I like to hope that the government has haggled

1973
01:43:54,960 --> 01:43:57,599
Speaker 1: and negotiated a good contract for hearing aids that they're

1974
01:43:57,640 --> 01:44:01,240
Speaker 1: not fitting at full rate. Reject that comment, right then,

1975
01:44:02,160 --> 01:44:05,320
Speaker 1: so and the other consipt. You didn't have to serve

1976
01:44:05,400 --> 01:44:08,320
Speaker 1: in combat or be injured while serving your country to

1977
01:44:08,320 --> 01:44:10,519
Speaker 1: be eligible for VA benefits. I guess that's another thing

1978
01:44:10,520 --> 01:44:12,080
Speaker 1: that runs through some of the veterans' minds.

1979
01:44:12,240 --> 01:44:18,200
Speaker 12: So a lot of them consider yes. Short answer. Typically

1980
01:44:18,200 --> 01:44:21,160
Speaker 12: we look at as a veteran, what were my injuries

1981
01:44:21,200 --> 01:44:23,800
Speaker 12: on active duty and what is the VA going to

1982
01:44:23,840 --> 01:44:28,960
Speaker 12: do about them? Because my life has been hindered by

1983
01:44:29,000 --> 01:44:32,960
Speaker 12: my injuries from active duty. But yet the VA still

1984
01:44:33,040 --> 01:44:36,200
Speaker 12: has a healthcare program where I just pay a colpay.

1985
01:44:37,400 --> 01:44:40,280
Speaker 12: And so if I'm fifty percent disabled or more by

1986
01:44:40,320 --> 01:44:43,040
Speaker 12: the VA, then my healthcare is free through the VA.

1987
01:44:43,560 --> 01:44:47,080
Speaker 12: But if I'm ten percent, zero percent, I can still

1988
01:44:47,080 --> 01:44:50,439
Speaker 12: get healthcare through the VA. It might come with a

1989
01:44:50,479 --> 01:44:53,160
Speaker 12: small col pay, but I can still have a primary

1990
01:44:53,160 --> 01:44:54,760
Speaker 12: care physician at the VA.

1991
01:44:54,880 --> 01:44:55,040
Speaker 1: Right.

1992
01:44:55,360 --> 01:44:58,439
Speaker 12: But now, the great thing about Cincinnati, right is the

1993
01:44:58,520 --> 01:45:02,559
Speaker 12: VA has done a tremendous this job here locally in

1994
01:45:02,680 --> 01:45:06,480
Speaker 12: picking up It's not just its service, but it's impression

1995
01:45:06,560 --> 01:45:07,080
Speaker 12: as well.

1996
01:45:07,360 --> 01:45:12,400
Speaker 1: Yep, veterans have told you that, yes, you survey them regularly.

1997
01:45:12,720 --> 01:45:14,599
Speaker 12: I have a friend of the family who's gone through

1998
01:45:14,640 --> 01:45:17,400
Speaker 12: cancer and the VA has taken him through every step,

1999
01:45:17,439 --> 01:45:19,960
Speaker 12: and he says, I hear all the stories, but I

2000
01:45:20,000 --> 01:45:23,160
Speaker 12: will tell you I'm an advocate for the Cincinnati VA.

2001
01:45:23,240 --> 01:45:26,080
Speaker 12: They've treated me so well. What more do you need?

2002
01:45:26,439 --> 01:45:29,240
Speaker 1: Nothing? Not any more than that. And then, of course

2003
01:45:29,240 --> 01:45:32,080
Speaker 1: a lot of veterans are awesome hires. If an employer

2004
01:45:32,120 --> 01:45:36,519
Speaker 1: is looking for a quality worker, hire a veteran. Along

2005
01:45:36,560 --> 01:45:39,479
Speaker 1: with getting a job quite often comes your medical insurance

2006
01:45:39,479 --> 01:45:41,320
Speaker 1: from your employer, and a lot of veterans out there

2007
01:45:41,439 --> 01:45:43,200
Speaker 1: have that and perhaps think that just because I have

2008
01:45:43,280 --> 01:45:46,840
Speaker 1: insurance from my employer, I shouldn't even bother with the VA.

2009
01:45:46,920 --> 01:45:49,640
Speaker 12: So here's here's here's some of the anomalies. So I

2010
01:45:49,720 --> 01:45:52,680
Speaker 12: retired from active duty, I have trycare. I get it

2011
01:45:52,680 --> 01:45:54,280
Speaker 12: for the rest of my life. I get health care

2012
01:45:54,400 --> 01:45:58,160
Speaker 12: by the government. I also, because I work for the county,

2013
01:45:58,520 --> 01:46:01,680
Speaker 12: have health care through the county. But because of my disabilities,

2014
01:46:01,760 --> 01:46:04,240
Speaker 12: I also have health care through the VA. So I

2015
01:46:04,240 --> 01:46:07,400
Speaker 12: actually have three programs I can run with, but I

2016
01:46:07,520 --> 01:46:10,760
Speaker 12: use the VA because I'm no longer paying for a

2017
01:46:10,800 --> 01:46:14,840
Speaker 12: copay for my medications. All my prescriptions I get ninety

2018
01:46:14,880 --> 01:46:17,680
Speaker 12: days at a time. I call the phone number they

2019
01:46:17,720 --> 01:46:21,080
Speaker 12: set up appointments for me. It's a phenomenal way to have.

2020
01:46:22,120 --> 01:46:24,320
Speaker 12: I really don't need the other two in that sense,

2021
01:46:24,479 --> 01:46:27,840
Speaker 12: but it's I'm not your everyday Joe, I guess. But

2022
01:46:28,600 --> 01:46:31,240
Speaker 12: to have that opportunity, even if I do go to

2023
01:46:31,320 --> 01:46:35,880
Speaker 12: work to one. Tell mister employer, man, hey, if I

2024
01:46:36,000 --> 01:46:38,559
Speaker 12: decline your health care because I have healthcare at the VA,

2025
01:46:39,120 --> 01:46:41,360
Speaker 12: will you bump me up an extra six ten K?

2026
01:46:42,120 --> 01:46:44,400
Speaker 12: You would be paying for my health care.

2027
01:46:44,520 --> 01:46:47,559
Speaker 1: I like that, right, Hey? The fools, the one that's

2028
01:46:47,560 --> 01:46:49,519
Speaker 1: not looking out for his own best interests. It's worth

2029
01:46:49,560 --> 01:46:51,320
Speaker 1: asking the question anyway.

2030
01:46:51,400 --> 01:46:55,160
Speaker 12: Absolutely, it's it's a no until you do ask. Yeah.

2031
01:46:55,200 --> 01:46:57,800
Speaker 1: I love the first time you brought that one up.

2032
01:46:57,880 --> 01:47:00,360
Speaker 1: That is people the wheels are spitting out their heads,

2033
01:47:00,439 --> 01:47:02,400
Speaker 1: right dot h I'm gonna try that one out. They

2034
01:47:02,400 --> 01:47:05,120
Speaker 1: can almost smell it. They're remaining minute we've got here.

2035
01:47:06,120 --> 01:47:08,800
Speaker 1: You can enroll online. This does not require a trip

2036
01:47:09,080 --> 01:47:10,439
Speaker 1: to the VA hospital to do this.

2037
01:47:10,640 --> 01:47:13,720
Speaker 12: No, the initial it's a ten ton easy. That's just

2038
01:47:14,040 --> 01:47:17,479
Speaker 12: submitting to start your healthcare. They're gonna look at your records.

2039
01:47:17,479 --> 01:47:19,120
Speaker 12: If you have a copy of d D two fourteen,

2040
01:47:19,240 --> 01:47:21,760
Speaker 12: you uproll it there. If not, they'll search records for it.

2041
01:47:22,080 --> 01:47:25,880
Speaker 12: But you can VA dot gov apply from your home

2042
01:47:26,240 --> 01:47:27,400
Speaker 12: on your computer.

2043
01:47:27,280 --> 01:47:28,960
Speaker 1: And if you have any questions or how to do that,

2044
01:47:29,080 --> 01:47:31,320
Speaker 1: the climat County Veteran Services will help you through the

2045
01:47:31,360 --> 01:47:32,640
Speaker 1: process as well, won't.

2046
01:47:32,360 --> 01:47:34,680
Speaker 12: They claimont County Veterans dot com or five to one

2047
01:47:34,760 --> 01:47:38,040
Speaker 12: three seven three two seven three six three.

2048
01:47:37,800 --> 01:47:40,120
Speaker 1: And one concluding point, as I find out, there is

2049
01:47:40,280 --> 01:47:42,880
Speaker 1: not a waiting period after active duty for a veteran

2050
01:47:43,000 --> 01:47:45,360
Speaker 1: to enroll in the VA, So just you know you

2051
01:47:45,400 --> 01:47:48,360
Speaker 1: get discharged. Head on over the website sign up.

2052
01:47:48,720 --> 01:47:51,360
Speaker 12: They're doing a great job for veterans leaving active duty

2053
01:47:51,439 --> 01:47:54,639
Speaker 12: right now that they're assessing them prior to leaving. I've

2054
01:47:54,640 --> 01:47:58,479
Speaker 12: been asked for that for years. At We're not completely

2055
01:47:58,520 --> 01:48:02,599
Speaker 12: there at my base station right so, your larger camps

2056
01:48:02,680 --> 01:48:07,880
Speaker 12: or forts or stations are having more availability of that type.

2057
01:48:07,920 --> 01:48:11,400
Speaker 12: Your smaller locations, some of your snake eater locations out

2058
01:48:11,400 --> 01:48:13,760
Speaker 12: in the woods probably won't have that. They're gonna have

2059
01:48:13,800 --> 01:48:15,519
Speaker 12: to go to a bearer one. But we're starting to

2060
01:48:15,640 --> 01:48:16,200
Speaker 12: roll that out.

2061
01:48:16,280 --> 01:48:18,519
Speaker 1: Man. We should get that in place everywhere. Listen, you

2062
01:48:18,640 --> 01:48:21,160
Speaker 1: got them right there, they're still serving. Give them the

2063
01:48:21,200 --> 01:48:24,559
Speaker 1: information about enrollment or just enroll them right there.

2064
01:48:24,640 --> 01:48:27,519
Speaker 12: Their physicians are there right now. I know the Nexus letters.

2065
01:48:27,560 --> 01:48:29,240
Speaker 12: I mean everything to support them.

2066
01:48:29,800 --> 01:48:32,040
Speaker 1: Steve Belsa, God bless you, sir. I appreciate what you're

2067
01:48:32,080 --> 01:48:34,519
Speaker 1: doing with the veterans. I love your enthusiasm. I'd love

2068
01:48:34,560 --> 01:48:37,519
Speaker 1: your profound appreciation for veterans and everything that you do

2069
01:48:37,920 --> 01:48:40,439
Speaker 1: to help improve the services at the VA. You got

2070
01:48:40,439 --> 01:48:43,240
Speaker 1: any problems, the VA wants to know about it, so

2071
01:48:43,280 --> 01:48:45,280
Speaker 1: please make sure you let them know if you run

2072
01:48:45,320 --> 01:48:47,120
Speaker 1: into an issue, be nice about it, but they'll do

2073
01:48:47,160 --> 01:48:49,719
Speaker 1: everything they can to address any concerns you have while there.

2074
01:48:49,840 --> 01:48:52,320
Speaker 1: That is, Steve, a great year we're going to have together.

2075
01:48:52,479 --> 01:48:54,240
Speaker 1: We look forward to having you back on man.

2076
01:48:54,240 --> 01:48:55,599
Speaker 12: Oh, I can't wait till next month.

2077
01:48:55,680 --> 01:48:57,840
Speaker 1: Thanks Brian, keep up the great work. Vanguard of the

2078
01:48:57,880 --> 01:49:02,320
Speaker 1: American has caused Gary Minoy hoping pronouncing that name correctly.

2079
01:49:02,320 --> 01:49:03,920
Speaker 1: He's going to join the program with his book after

2080
01:49:03,960 --> 01:49:05,200
Speaker 1: the top of the our news then of course.

2081
01:49:05,200 --> 01:49:07,120
Speaker 4: Necessary PGWO what did my lost terms?

2082
01:49:07,120 --> 01:49:08,040
Speaker 6: Conditions twenty one LUs.

2083
01:49:08,000 --> 01:49:09,920
Speaker 1: It's going to be a mad tree brew today, Summit Park,

2084
01:49:10,000 --> 01:49:13,040
Speaker 1: Luash location and without further Ado really excited about talking

2085
01:49:13,080 --> 01:49:15,200
Speaker 1: with Gary Benoy. He's the editor in chief of The

2086
01:49:15,280 --> 01:49:17,559
Speaker 1: New American, which is a political affiliate to the John

2087
01:49:17,600 --> 01:49:19,840
Speaker 1: Birch Society, and author of the book we're going to

2088
01:49:19,880 --> 01:49:23,280
Speaker 1: be speaking about today Today Vanguard of Americans caused a

2089
01:49:23,360 --> 01:49:25,840
Speaker 1: close look at the John Birch Society. He's been a

2090
01:49:25,840 --> 01:49:28,599
Speaker 1: member of the JBS since joining as a teenager back

2091
01:49:28,640 --> 01:49:31,280
Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty eight, been a member of its staff

2092
01:49:31,320 --> 01:49:33,920
Speaker 1: since seventy seven, Editor of the New American in nineteen

2093
01:49:34,000 --> 01:49:36,439
Speaker 1: eighty six, and he's assumed his current position is editor

2094
01:49:36,479 --> 01:49:38,439
Speaker 1: in Chief since twenty twenty one. Over the years, he

2095
01:49:38,520 --> 01:49:41,880
Speaker 1: served as director of The Birch Society's Research Department, editor

2096
01:49:41,920 --> 01:49:44,559
Speaker 1: of the John Birch Society, Bolton, and the publisher of

2097
01:49:44,600 --> 01:49:46,960
Speaker 1: the New American. Welcome to the fifty five Case Morning Show,

2098
01:49:47,000 --> 01:49:48,640
Speaker 1: Gary Benoit. It's a real pleasure to have you on

2099
01:49:48,680 --> 01:49:51,040
Speaker 1: the program, sir, It's a.

2100
01:49:51,040 --> 01:49:53,559
Speaker 11: Pleasure beyond Brian, and thank you so much for inviting me.

2101
01:49:53,760 --> 01:49:56,280
Speaker 1: Oh happy to And you know, I was thinking about it.

2102
01:49:56,360 --> 01:49:59,719
Speaker 1: John Birch Society has been the target of the slings

2103
01:49:59,720 --> 01:50:02,280
Speaker 1: in a arrows of outrage for years. You know, we

2104
01:50:02,439 --> 01:50:05,280
Speaker 1: people call conspiracy theorists, and then we kind of call

2105
01:50:05,320 --> 01:50:08,479
Speaker 1: them pattern observers. And you hear these crazy ideas and

2106
01:50:08,520 --> 01:50:13,760
Speaker 1: these and these conclusions about things, and you dismissed them

2107
01:50:13,760 --> 01:50:16,000
Speaker 1: as ah, come on, that's not going on. And then

2108
01:50:16,080 --> 01:50:18,000
Speaker 1: next thing, you know, wait for a few years, and

2109
01:50:18,040 --> 01:50:20,679
Speaker 1: it turns out, well, you know what, that conspiracy theorist

2110
01:50:20,760 --> 01:50:24,200
Speaker 1: ie pattern observer turns out to be right. That's basically

2111
01:50:24,320 --> 01:50:25,479
Speaker 1: the John Bursa Society.

2112
01:50:25,680 --> 01:50:27,760
Speaker 11: And that's absolutely true. And of course there were people

2113
01:50:27,800 --> 01:50:31,080
Speaker 11: who dismissed us many years ago because they did think

2114
01:50:31,080 --> 01:50:34,280
Speaker 11: that what we're saying was crazy. And a perfect example

2115
01:50:34,320 --> 01:50:36,680
Speaker 11: would be the John Birch Society's position to get us

2116
01:50:36,760 --> 01:50:39,759
Speaker 11: out of the United Nations. And back in the nineteen

2117
01:50:39,800 --> 01:50:42,040
Speaker 11: seventies we had a major billboard campaign to get us

2118
01:50:42,040 --> 01:50:45,040
Speaker 11: out of the UN Nation. I remember the people yes,

2119
01:50:45,680 --> 01:50:48,040
Speaker 11: and people laughed at that, because, my goodness, isn't the

2120
01:50:48,120 --> 01:50:51,479
Speaker 11: United Nations mankind's last us hope for peace. But what

2121
01:50:51,560 --> 01:50:53,879
Speaker 11: we were saying at the time is no, that's not true,

2122
01:50:54,160 --> 01:50:56,800
Speaker 11: that this is a world government tramp and that an

2123
01:50:56,880 --> 01:51:00,000
Speaker 11: organization large enough to bring about global peace could also

2124
01:51:00,040 --> 01:51:03,040
Speaker 11: so used the power to impose global tyranny. And over

2125
01:51:03,080 --> 01:51:05,200
Speaker 11: the years, people have realized that that is the case,

2126
01:51:05,280 --> 01:51:07,479
Speaker 11: and more and more people agree that we need to

2127
01:51:07,479 --> 01:51:09,599
Speaker 11: get out of the United Nations. So that's just one

2128
01:51:09,640 --> 01:51:12,280
Speaker 11: example of where people thought we were crazy but then

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Speaker 11: learn over time that we were correct.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, that's one of the benefits Gary and

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Speaker 1: I might observe Gary about the modern age. As critical

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Speaker 1: as I may be about the garbage that the Internet

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Speaker 1: is and all the downsides of it, at least we

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Speaker 1: have real time information about what is going on, like

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Speaker 1: how many people paid attention to you and votes outside

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Speaker 1: of the John Birch Society and those within the UN

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Speaker 1: going back to the sixties or seventies, like, what are

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Speaker 1: they doing? I have no idea. What you oh there?

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Speaker 1: It is the UN downtown New York. What are they doing?

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Speaker 1: We have no idea. Nobody paid attention to it. You know,

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Speaker 1: Walter Konkait wasn't selecting pieces for his thirty minute news

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Speaker 1: program about the evils or what's going on inside the

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Speaker 1: United Nations. Now we know we have crazy dictatorships and

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Speaker 1: countries put on like, for example, the Human Rights Council,

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Speaker 1: Like wait a second, they throw gay people off of buildings,

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Speaker 1: and yet here they are as part of the UN

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Speaker 1: Human Rights Group. This doesn't make any sense, I guess,

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Speaker 1: leading me to my question, Gary, why are we still

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Speaker 1: part of it? Is it really just one giant, concentrated

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Speaker 1: spy organization where people from the various like the CIA

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Speaker 1: and MI six or five and are just gathering information

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Speaker 1: about foreign nations. It seems convenient to just draw that conclusion,

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Speaker 1: considering that apparently nothing gets done there.

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Speaker 11: Well, actually, I think behind the scenes some things are

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Speaker 11: getting done, but they are things that are bad for

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Speaker 11: American independence and things that are bad for freedom, and

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Speaker 11: it's a step by step process. It's like putting a

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Speaker 11: frog into water and then you'd gradually turn up the

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Speaker 11: heat and before you know it, the frog is boiled.

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Speaker 11: And that is the same thing today. And a good

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Speaker 11: example of that strategy would be all the propaganda with

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Speaker 11: regard to climate change. Once upon a time that you

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Speaker 11: used to be called global warming, now they call it

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Speaker 11: glama climate change. I think that's easier to big out

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Speaker 11: people regarding climate change because the weather does change from

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Speaker 11: season to season and whatnot. But that's use is a

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Speaker 11: pretext to bring about a global green regime, which ostensibly

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Speaker 11: is a safe planet Earth, but in reality is intended

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Speaker 11: to enslave planet Earth's Earth, where a few people will control.

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Speaker 1: The many global wealth. Deep redistribution, that's what it happens, yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: taking away from the rich countries, force them to cut

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Speaker 1: their own throat in the name of removing plant food

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Speaker 1: from the environment. How preposterous is this, gary that we

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Speaker 1: have come to the point where plant food carbon dioxide

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Speaker 1: has been labeled a pollutant that we need to get

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Speaker 1: rid of.

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Speaker 11: I mean, it really isn't crazy, isn't it, Because any

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Speaker 11: school child, even the people in elementary school should know

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Speaker 11: that CO two is the gas of life, and yet

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Speaker 11: this is now being portrayed by the would be totalitarians

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Speaker 11: and the people that are able to be kile looking

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Speaker 11: at CO two is a pollutant. So it is absolutely crazy.

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Speaker 11: But the good news is that more and more people

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Speaker 11: are waking up, more and more people realize that freedom

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Speaker 11: is under attack. So the problem now is not so

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Speaker 11: much trying to point out to people that something is wrong.

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Speaker 11: That was a big problem back in the nineteen sixties

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Speaker 11: and nineteen seventies and whatnot, But the problem today much

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Speaker 11: more so is to show people that there is something

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Speaker 11: that can be done about it, and that the erosion

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Speaker 11: of our freedoms is not happenstance, that it has happened

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Speaker 11: because powerful people and high places are planning it that way.

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Speaker 11: And the purpose of the John Birch Society, which is

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Speaker 11: founder in the nineteen fifty eight by a man named

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Speaker 11: Robert Welch, the purpose is number one, to expose that conspiracy,

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Speaker 11: and the other purpose is to bring about less government,

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Speaker 11: more responsibility, and with God's help, a better world. And

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Speaker 11: the John Birch Society is not a political organization, at

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Speaker 11: least not in the political sense. Obviously it does deal

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Speaker 11: with political activism or political issues. But our belief is

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Speaker 11: that if we create the awareness and we get people

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Speaker 11: organized and involved, that that will be the sea change

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Speaker 11: that will make the difference, That that will affect how

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Speaker 11: people go into when they go into voting boots, that

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Speaker 11: that will cause people to hold the seat of the

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Speaker 11: politicians who take an oath to the Constitution to the

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Speaker 11: fire and ensure that they either support that boat and

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Speaker 11: how they vote, or that they themselves will get voted

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Speaker 11: out of office.

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Speaker 1: Look yesterday, Gary Binoyd, he is the author of a

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Speaker 1: book you need to get a hold of, and it's

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Speaker 1: a Lincoln on my blog page, sir, that people can

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Speaker 1: easily get a copy of Vanguard the American has cost,

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Speaker 1: which talks about the John Vertus Society's history, what they've done,

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Speaker 1: what they've accomplished, the challenges they face, and of course

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Speaker 1: his history with them. Now, let us give us a

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Speaker 1: nefarious example of how this climate nonsense and plant food

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Speaker 1: that's killing the world. United Nations Agenda twenty thirty. When

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Speaker 1: I read the information about this, I think it's creeping

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Speaker 1: into the greater Cincinnati area. Our current mayor is interested

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Speaker 1: in what they call the connected communities, the sort of

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Speaker 1: one size fits all concerts, traded housing. Does this sound

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Speaker 1: familiar to you?

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Speaker 11: What it sure does. It's actually one of the seventeen

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Speaker 11: development goals for the United Nations, sustainable development goals. Of

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Speaker 11: course they call it sustainable development, but what is really

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Speaker 11: meant by sustainable is that ostensibly the affluent lifestyle the

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Speaker 11: American people, the family home, having private transportation, being able

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Speaker 11: to get in your own car and drive the work

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Speaker 11: and whatnot, all these things are now considered unsustainable by

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Speaker 11: the powers that be and by the United Nations. And

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Speaker 11: so they don't want to say, well, they want to

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Speaker 11: impromise us, but that what they call it instead is

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Speaker 11: sustainable development. And what you were just talking about is

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Speaker 11: a part of that strategy, This whole idea of fifteen

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Speaker 11: minute cities and of regulations ostensibly to protect the environment,

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Speaker 11: but what an actuality is intended to control us, to

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Speaker 11: control the American people. And if that sounds crazy, I

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Speaker 11: would say, just look at what happened in twenty twenty

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Speaker 11: with COVID, where in the name of fighting COVID, what

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Speaker 11: happened we were told to stay in our homes unless

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Speaker 11: we absolutely have to go out. Well, we were told

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Speaker 11: we could not go to work. Businesses had to close.

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Speaker 11: Of course, large big box stores such as Walmart stayed open,

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Speaker 11: but mom and pop stores were told to close. And

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Speaker 11: of course even churches were shuttered and who could go

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Speaker 11: leave Before twenty and twenty that something like that could

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Speaker 11: have happened in the United States of America. I look

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Speaker 11: at that as a trial balloon, is to what did

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Speaker 11: thetalitarians want to accomplish in the future to make that

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Speaker 11: permanent and to control us completely using as a pretext

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Speaker 11: environment and other issues.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they certainly did trample on a right to free

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Speaker 1: exercise of religion and the right to assemble, which are

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Speaker 1: both guaranteed by our constitutions. Seems to me the First

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Speaker 1: Amendment just got chucked out the window in the name

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Speaker 1: of all I don't know social distancing, which was a

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Speaker 1: made up consense as a concept as well, we did

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Speaker 1: learn a lot from that, and I don't ask you

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Speaker 1: to kind of read Tea Lees, but I think we

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Speaker 1: are all much smarter and much more in tune to

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Speaker 1: that kind of nefarious element going on. I'm not quite

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Speaker 1: sure that they can necessarily get away with it like

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Speaker 1: they did last time, or am I being too optimistic.

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Speaker 11: I don't think they can to the same extent, But

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Speaker 11: I would say the biggest problem today is not, as

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Speaker 11: they said earlier, trying to convince people that something is wrong.

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Speaker 11: The big problem today is convincing people that something can

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Speaker 11: be done about it. And the way to do that

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Speaker 11: is number one, to recognize that if we are going

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Speaker 11: to say and restore our freedoms, we have to do

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Speaker 11: it ourselves. We cannot depend on somebody else to do it.

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Speaker 11: We cannot depend on a particular politician to do it.

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Speaker 11: We have to do it ourselves. And the way to

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Speaker 11: do that is to become informed, become organized, apply concerted action,

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Speaker 11: and work in communities all across the country to bring

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Speaker 11: about the great Awakening, and again to insist that the

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Speaker 11: people who represent us in Washington and the people who

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Speaker 11: represent us and the state houses that they abide by

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Speaker 11: the Constitution. Of course, the Constitution itself shows that there

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Speaker 11: is still hope because we still have the Constitution, and

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Speaker 11: as long as we have it, as soon as people

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Speaker 11: get organized and insists that we abide by the Constitution,

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Speaker 11: I believe that will solve the problem. But it's going

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Speaker 11: to take a lot of hard work.

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Speaker 1: It seems that part of the un and jen is

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Speaker 1: also depopulation. And I know quite a few listeners always

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Speaker 1: bring this up regularly, and I mean, I guess it

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Speaker 1: doesn't work. China totalitarian regime where you have no rights.

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Speaker 1: They had the one child policy and they are really

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Speaker 1: struggling and suffering from it mightily. You look at any

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Speaker 1: country in the world where this sort of Western concept

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Speaker 1: of selfishness and refusal to bring new life into the

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Speaker 1: world in spite of how great it is to do so,

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Speaker 1: has really taken hold. So Western countries have been convinced

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Speaker 1: that having babies is bad. We're a bunch of cockroaches

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Speaker 1: killing the planet. It's too expensive to have children. Mom

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Speaker 1: and dad both need to work. I mean, that's been

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Speaker 1: kind of baked into the cake as well as this

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Speaker 1: religion of climate change. Has it not.

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Speaker 11: Absolutely I agree to completely, Bryan. And actually, if we

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Speaker 11: could go back a few years, let's say go back

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Speaker 11: to the nineteen fifties. And I was born in nineteen

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Speaker 11: fifty three, so I remember the last part of the fifties.

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Speaker 11: I remember the sixties. But back then it was very

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Speaker 11: common for a family and family size is back then

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Speaker 11: were bigger, but very common for a family to have

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Speaker 11: just one way journer, and typically that was the dad.

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Speaker 11: Typically he just worked one job. Oftentimes he just had

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Speaker 11: in high school education. And yet he was able to

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Speaker 11: support his family, again a family size typically being much

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Speaker 11: larger than today, and he was able to experience he

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Speaker 11: was able to live the American dream. He was able

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Speaker 11: to own his own home, he was able to have

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Speaker 11: a car in the drive right way, and so forth.

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Speaker 11: Yet look at where we are today. Were in order

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Speaker 11: to achieve these things, you have both the husband and

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Speaker 11: the wife working. Yet people deciding, well, we cannot have children.

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Speaker 11: We have to postpone that, or we only can have

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Speaker 11: one or two children because things are so tough we

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Speaker 11: can't afford it otherwise. And also, what can you accomplish

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Speaker 11: today with a high school education in terms of earning

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Speaker 11: the kind of living where you can live the American

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Speaker 11: dream today? And of course many young people growing up

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Speaker 11: are watering will I ever be able to buy a home?

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Speaker 11: Will I ever be able to have as good a

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Speaker 11: lifestyle as my parents have? So that is the transition

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Speaker 11: that has taken place in this country over a couple generations.

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Speaker 11: And on John Burgessiy. We believe that it has not happenstance,

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Speaker 11: that that has been happening by design because of this conspiracy,

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Speaker 11: and an includes not just communists. I mean, it's easy

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Speaker 11: to say thimist conspiracy, and there is such a thing,

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Speaker 11: but it's also a conspiracy of insiders. It's also the

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Speaker 11: deep state. It's also people who are not themselves members

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Speaker 11: of the Communist party, but they don't mind working with

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Speaker 11: the Communists because they believe in the same thing communist do.

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Speaker 11: Let's not forget that monopoly. A total monopoly would be

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Speaker 11: total government. You cannot have a bigger monopoly than that.

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Speaker 11: And what happens when government has total power and say

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Speaker 11: people in big business, big medium, big government, and whatnot,

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Speaker 11: they're working together and they will work with communists in

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Speaker 11: order to consolidate more and more government, leading to total government,

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Speaker 11: and more and more internationalism leading to world government. So

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Speaker 11: that is the danger, and the solution is to simply

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Speaker 11: expose that conspiracy.

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Speaker 1: And get a copy of the book Vanguard of the

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Speaker 1: Americans cause a close look at the John Birch Society,

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Speaker 1: the victories, some of the challenges they faced over the years. Hey,

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Speaker 1: they were on the front lines of these accusations of

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Speaker 1: craziness and conspiracy theory. But as we find out, you

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Speaker 1: wait long enough, guess who was right? Apparently it was

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Speaker 1: a John Bursh Society. Gary Benoy, thank you for sticking

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Speaker 1: it out for all those years and being on the

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Speaker 1: front lines of the regular attacks. I'm sure you've got

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Speaker 1: a lot of callous to show for it, but you're

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Speaker 1: a great example to hold out for others to e

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Speaker 1: to the challenge themselves.

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Speaker 13: Five heavy us through lock On, Northbound, out of Arrowlinger

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Speaker 13: into the cut. Everything is new in twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 13: including our next guest coming up is the brand new

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Speaker 13: draft consultant for the New York Giants, Judge Napolitano. You're

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Speaker 13: on the clock, Chuck ingramont fifty five KR the Talk station,

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Speaker 13: fifty five.

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Speaker 1: Car Ceed Talk Station. Well, you may not think big

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Speaker 1: plans for the Bengals this year, but if Chuck Ingram

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Speaker 1: is right, got big plans for the Giants this year,

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Speaker 1: I guess they're gonna do really well with Judge of

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Speaker 1: Politano helping them out. Judge of Polaitano, Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: the fifty five KRC Morning Show. Every Wednesday, at this

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Speaker 1: time we get the Judge's stage, wisdom and insight, constitutional

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Speaker 1: purest he may be, and maybe suffering some slings and

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Speaker 1: arrows as a consequence of it, but we're running out.

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Speaker 1: We're we're running out of people who are on our

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Speaker 1: side of the ledger anymore, Judge of you are happy

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Speaker 1: New Year.

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Speaker 3: And also suffering slings and arrows of it, being a

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Speaker 3: long suffering giant fan. If I had my druthers, I

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Speaker 3: went to hire Bill Belichick as general manager. And as said.

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Speaker 1: Coach, I like that. It's nice to have a little

2380
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Speaker 1: misery loves company going on when you're a Bengals fan.

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Speaker 1: So probably, well, you know, we understand where you're coming from,

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Speaker 1: Judge of Politano, and finding ourselves in a bit of

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Speaker 1: a minority with the most recent unilateral military action by

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Speaker 1: a president. And this happens with presidents of all political stripes.

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Speaker 1: With this one, of course, we're dealing with Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: goes in middle night grabs Manuel Noriega and arey we

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Speaker 1: did that before. The predicate may have been Manuel Noriega,

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Speaker 1: among others, Nicholas Madur and his wife for criminal violations.

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Speaker 1: And it seems to me, Judge of Politano, if you're using,

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Speaker 1: for example, Noriega as the predicate or the legal authority.

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Speaker 1: And I know you'll have a word or two to

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Speaker 1: say about that. To grab this guy, the idea that

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Speaker 1: he was indicted by a federal grand jury and facing

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Speaker 1: criminal charges for work that was unrelated to his position

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Speaker 1: as the president of a nation, in other words, making

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Speaker 1: money on the side, engaging in criminal activity. That's not

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Speaker 1: a presidential thing that we can grab him. But I

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Speaker 1: think that is sort of the precondition of the predicate,

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Speaker 1: the sort of the thing that they're hanging their hat

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Speaker 1: on in order to engage in what they're calling this

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Speaker 1: don Roe doctrine, to try to keep the Chinese out

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Speaker 1: of the hemisphere, to try to keep the Russians out

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Speaker 1: of the hemisphere, of course, to get rid of drugs

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Speaker 1: generally speaking, but to bring about some greater pro Western

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Speaker 1: stability here, I think was the goal. But you can't

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Speaker 1: go in and grab somebody just because they disagree with

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Speaker 1: you politically. Oh look, we've got a federal indictment for

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Speaker 1: criminal charges. We can use the Norriega example and go

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Speaker 1: grab him. And I know you disagree with all of that,

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Speaker 1: but here we are.

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Speaker 3: Well, I do disagree with all of it because we

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Speaker 3: have this thing called the Constitution, then we have a

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Speaker 3: treaty that the United States drafted and the Senate ratified

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Speaker 3: and called the un Charter, and both prohibit this. The

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Speaker 3: President doesn't seem to care about the Constitution, which he

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Speaker 3: took an oath to preserve, protect, and defend. As we

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Speaker 3: all know, he doesn't seem to care about a treaty

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Speaker 3: with which he may disagree, even though under the lows

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Speaker 3: in the same category as the Constitution, this Constitution and

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Speaker 3: all treaties made pursuant to it shall be the supreme

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Speaker 3: law of the land. I'm quoting from the Constitution itself.

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Speaker 3: But the President doesn't care and probably will get away

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Speaker 3: with this. The Noriega example was just as unlawful as this,

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Speaker 3: but the courts did not interfere with it. Interesting thing,

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Speaker 3: Noriega argued that all he did was look the other

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Speaker 3: way while the CIA engaged in drug trafficking, because the

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Speaker 3: CIA asked him to look the other way. Well, question

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Speaker 3: who was the director of the CIA when Noriega was

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Speaker 3: engaged in what he says was cooperation with them? George Bush,

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Speaker 3: the same president who invaded Panama to arrest him. George HW. Bush.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing how that list stars ALIGNE on that. But

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Speaker 1: under legal theories, him looking away is a criminal act.

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Speaker 1: He is part of the broader conspiracy to involve the

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Speaker 1: involved in the drug trade. Whether it's the CIA doing

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Speaker 1: the drugs or not. If it was a Rico claim

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Speaker 1: against him, he'd still be indictable and subject to prosecution

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Speaker 1: by because he helped facilitate it by looking the other

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Speaker 1: way and not doing anything.

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Speaker 3: What about the CIA agent? No, no, I'm what are

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Speaker 3: they going to be defended?

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Speaker 1: Which leads me to the ultimate point here. Let's assume

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Speaker 1: everyone agrees with you that right, this is extra constitutional.

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Speaker 1: What is the response supposed to be in this insanely

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Speaker 1: politically divided environment. You can't get Congress to pass even

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Speaker 1: a bill. If Trump wants it, they hated. If Trump

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Speaker 1: doesn't want it, then they want it.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what the response is. I think Trump

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Speaker 3: was correct yesterday when he told the Republican caucus that

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Speaker 3: if the Democrats take the House, he'll be impeached. They

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Speaker 3: won't be convicted, it'll be impeached, and we'll be going

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02:08:16,160 --> 02:08:21,560
Speaker 3: through that nonsense of tying up the government and knots again.

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Speaker 3: He's already been impeached twice. There just aren't the votes

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Speaker 3: to convict unless some more comes out. But that's really

2454
02:08:29,560 --> 02:08:32,440
Speaker 3: the only remedy there is at this point. That Congress

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Speaker 3: doesn't have an LBJ. There is no person there who

2456
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Speaker 3: can cobble together agreements that appeal to a majority of

2457
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Speaker 3: Republicans and a majority of Democrats. It's whoever's in charge

2458
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Speaker 3: gets their way. They don't want to go shape with

2459
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Speaker 3: or talk to the minority party. The Democrats will probably

2460
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Speaker 3: take the House in a November. Anything could happen. That's

2461
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Speaker 3: nine months away, ten months away. They hope to take

2462
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Speaker 3: the Senate. That's a bit of a stretch. But again,

2463
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Speaker 3: anything could happen, but the government will be steinmied. It

2464
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Speaker 3: will accomplish nothing. Maybe that's a good thing if Trump's

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Speaker 3: in the White House and one or both of the

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Speaker 3: Houses of Congress are controlled by the Democrats.

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Speaker 1: So we are left with this sort of I don't

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Speaker 1: want to call it an incentive to ignore the declaration

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Speaker 1: of war responsibility in the Constitution. They control the Congress

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Speaker 1: is supposed to have over these matters. Because we run

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Speaker 1: into this brick wall that there won't be any consequences

2472
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Speaker 1: if there is a questionable constitutional action here, So doesn't

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Speaker 1: that sort of facilitate presidents down the road doing the

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Speaker 1: same thing. And a suggestion I met to you in

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Speaker 1: that email, it's like throwing in the concepts of legal

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Speaker 1: concepts of waiver and a stop or whatever. Everybody's done

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Speaker 1: it since World War Two. We kind of like political expedients.

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Speaker 1: We don't have to put ourselves down as voting in

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Speaker 1: favor of something like this, and it gives us an

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02:10:07,320 --> 02:10:10,280
Speaker 1: opportunity to scream and yell about what the opposition president

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Speaker 1: is doing. And yet since they don't follow through and

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Speaker 1: do anything, something suggests in the back of my mind

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Speaker 1: that I think they all kind of like this cozy

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Speaker 1: arrangements as well. It's by the fact that the Constitution

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Speaker 1: seems prohibited.

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Speaker 3: I was literally interviewing the late great Congressman Charlie Wrangle

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Speaker 3: of Harlem when President Obama came a national television from

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Speaker 3: Brazil and announced that we were bombing Libya. And I

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Speaker 3: looked at the Congressman Wrangle and I said, did I

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Speaker 3: miss something? Did you guys declare war on Libya. I

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Speaker 3: won't try and imitate his voice, yet I remember him

2492
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Speaker 3: a famous way of speaking with a very scratchy sounding voice,

2493
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Speaker 3: but he said, well, no, we didn't. We just hope

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Speaker 3: it's a success full outcome, and then it's a win

2495
02:11:01,680 --> 02:11:05,440
Speaker 3: win for us. We didn't declare war, but we'll reap

2496
02:11:05,520 --> 02:11:09,600
Speaker 3: the benefits for more. So we privately hope it's successful,

2497
02:11:09,920 --> 02:11:12,640
Speaker 3: but publicly we'll say the hell are you to do this?

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Speaker 3: Follow the constitution. The attitude is the same amongst the

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Speaker 3: Republicans today.

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Speaker 1: It is. That's why I think it's going to continue.

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Speaker 1: If there isn't a political ramification or some illegal ramifies, then.

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Speaker 3: We don't have a constitution and we don't really have

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02:11:28,600 --> 02:11:33,320
Speaker 3: a democracy. We just have a term limited monarch in

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Speaker 3: the White House. He may not even be term limited

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Speaker 3: in his own mind.

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Speaker 1: Well, and you know, you could move over to different

2507
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Speaker 1: areas of topics. I just had a conversation with a

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Speaker 1: gentleman who wrote a book, Ary Benoy. He's been with

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Speaker 1: a johnsh Burt Society since basically it's founding. But he

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02:11:47,520 --> 02:11:49,840
Speaker 1: put it out a COVID nineteen and I brought up

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Speaker 1: the fact that free exercise of religion was eradicated, like

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02:11:54,080 --> 02:11:57,000
Speaker 1: to free assembly was eradicated, all in the name of

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02:11:57,080 --> 02:12:01,160
Speaker 1: all COVID. So our Constitution gets traded. You and I

2514
02:12:01,200 --> 02:12:05,120
Speaker 1: have talked many times about they're trampling all over the

2515
02:12:05,120 --> 02:12:07,520
Speaker 1: Fourth Amendment. There are right to be free of unreasonable

2516
02:12:07,520 --> 02:12:10,400
Speaker 1: searches and seizures. And what's going on with FISA courts?

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02:12:10,840 --> 02:12:12,960
Speaker 1: I mean here and there in everywhere.

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Speaker 3: The drug war in the sixties, seventies and eighties, and

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02:12:18,640 --> 02:12:23,600
Speaker 3: then the overreaction to nine to eleven have obliterated the

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02:12:23,640 --> 02:12:26,800
Speaker 3: Fourth Amendment, and the courts have gone along with it.

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02:12:26,840 --> 02:12:30,960
Speaker 3: There are very few of my former colleagues in black

2522
02:12:31,040 --> 02:12:33,680
Speaker 3: robes who believe that the Constitution means what it says,

2523
02:12:33,960 --> 02:12:37,560
Speaker 3: very very few. It's hard for me to find one

2524
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Speaker 3: on the Supreme Court of the United States. I might

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Speaker 3: have said that about Justice gor s such a year

2526
02:12:42,760 --> 02:12:45,520
Speaker 3: or so ago, but he seems to have fallen in

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Speaker 3: line with his right wing colleagues, including my college debate

2528
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Speaker 3: partner Sam Alito.

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Speaker 6: What of?

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Speaker 1: And I just I have to bring this up because

2531
02:12:55,040 --> 02:12:56,840
Speaker 1: been the subject of a lot of discussion going back

2532
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Speaker 1: to Venezuela. The Democrats, Joe Biden's want to put up

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Speaker 1: twenty five or fifty million dollars bounty on him. Is

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Speaker 1: there something to a bounty? Is that extra constitutional? I mean,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know what that means. If you put

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Speaker 1: a bounty out and someone's being offered millions and millions

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02:13:11,720 --> 02:13:15,520
Speaker 1: of dollars to bring me the head of nor Diega

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Speaker 1: or Maduro or whoever. It seems to me that that's

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Speaker 1: a suggestion that the American military is going to do it,

2540
02:13:20,360 --> 02:13:22,680
Speaker 1: because who among us can go into a foreign land

2541
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Speaker 1: and actually successfully capture somebody who's under guard. But is

2542
02:13:27,200 --> 02:13:29,960
Speaker 1: there something wrong with that concept? And how can you

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02:13:30,000 --> 02:13:31,880
Speaker 1: advocate for putting a bounty on a man's head and

2544
02:13:31,880 --> 02:13:33,960
Speaker 1: then run back the next day and screaming yell about

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Speaker 1: someone actually extra or taking action on that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I never looked at the constitutionality of bounties. The

2547
02:13:42,440 --> 02:13:48,960
Speaker 3: American government'smen using bounties since right after the Revolutionary War.

2548
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Speaker 3: But sometimes we put bounties on the heads of people

2549
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Speaker 3: like the president of the current president of Syria, and

2550
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Speaker 3: then we just take the bounty away and embrace him

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Speaker 3: in the in the oval office. So it's more it's

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Speaker 3: more political than it is legal or financial. Who's going

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Speaker 3: to get the fifty million that the State Department put up?

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Speaker 3: Is it going to be shared amongst the guys that

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Speaker 3: actually grabbed him in his bedroom.

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Speaker 1: Or maybe the intel that came from within the administration

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Speaker 1: that no longer exists. There probably that person or persons

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Speaker 1: that gave the intel to our American military.

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Speaker 3: Well, the likely culprit is still a general and still

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Speaker 3: subject to the new president, Maduro's chosen vice president. It's

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Speaker 3: very interesting that unlike the Bush Cheney administration, which when

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Speaker 3: they took over Iraq through the whole government out, the

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Speaker 3: Trump people have decided, let's work with the people that

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Speaker 3: are in place. We can't fill the potholes, we can't

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Speaker 3: deliver the mail, we can't collect the garbage. Oh, we

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Speaker 3: can't even do that in our own country. How are

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Speaker 3: we going to do it in Venezuela?

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Speaker 1: And I think the threat of the same thing happening

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Speaker 1: to those current leaders may force them or cause them

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Speaker 1: to be more inclined to work with Trump to achieve

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Speaker 1: the goals that Trump's looking for, like bringing out fifty

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Speaker 1: million barrels of oil.

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Speaker 3: So that's just theft, that's.

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Speaker 6: Just a.

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Speaker 3: Schoolyard bully saying give me your lunch money or I'll

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Speaker 3: beat your face in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they can say no, though, it's complicated, isn't it. Hey,

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Speaker 1: should we.

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Speaker 3: Need more bullies in the world to oh, a neutralized

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Speaker 3: one in the White House.

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Speaker 1: Should I mention even the word greenland? Oh God, let's

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Speaker 1: not go there anyway, you know, going back to Seward's folly,

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Speaker 1: the idea of buying greenland, that's been done before. So

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Speaker 1: if you write them at check and they accept that,

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Speaker 1: and that can be an arms length negotiation, that's one thing.

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Speaker 1: But this talk of military intervention to take it over,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what planet that comes from, Judge of Poltone,

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Speaker 1: I kind of feel you feel the same way on

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Speaker 1: that one.

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Speaker 3: I do feel the same way it comes from the

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Speaker 3: President's brain. I mean, the sale of it requires a

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Speaker 3: willing seller as well as a willing fire. In this

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Speaker 3: case of the willing buyer would have to be the

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Speaker 3: Congress of the United States, right, can't be Trump and

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Speaker 3: his billionaire friends. So I don't I don't know how

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Speaker 3: this could possibly happen. I can't imagine the Senate going

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Speaker 3: along with this exactly.

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Speaker 1: So conceptually it's possible, but reality has to step in

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Speaker 1: and say no, it's not possible. Judge Ennetapolitano, always an

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Speaker 1: outstanding discussion with you. I appreciate you willingness to come

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Speaker 1: on the morning show, and I hope we continue to

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Speaker 1: do this throughout this calendar year.

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Speaker 3: Sir, I hope the same, and I'm deeply grateful for

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Speaker 3: all our time together, my dear friend.

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Speaker 1: Thanks been a wonderful bunch of years.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 1: Happy to hell you Ingram, tell Ingram and Streker that

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Speaker 1: I love them you already did. Thank you, Judge. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk next Wednesday, safe week and help you fit eight

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Speaker 1: forty two. Right now, if you five care see the

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Speaker 1: talk stations, got a little time to talk to The

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Speaker 1: phone lines are open. Feel free to respond. I'd love

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Speaker 1: to hear from you. Five one, three, seven, four nine

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Speaker 1: fifty five hundred eight two three talk, don play fifty

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Speaker 3: Fifty five KRC dot com.

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Speaker 1: The new year means new resolutions, not just foration. Last one.

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Speaker 1: I promise Matt Treebrewery today for listener lunch. If you

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Speaker 1: want to make it will be at the Blue Ash

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Speaker 1: location that's at the Summit Park. Let's go to the phones.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people calling in. I'll just acknowledge up front.

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Speaker 1: We I think we can all generally conclude Nepalitan a

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Speaker 1: no fan of Trump, but as I mentioned, many times

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Speaker 1: over the years. We try as hard as possible. Joe

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Speaker 1: Strekker works his butt off to try to get people

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Speaker 1: with different opinions on the program. We ask Democrat politicians

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Speaker 1: to come on the show. Am I going to agree

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Speaker 1: with him? No, but I love having the discussion with them.

2629
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Speaker 1: Things that make you go hmm, that pesky constitution getting

2630
02:17:42,040 --> 02:17:44,039
Speaker 1: in the way, and quite often it does. But you

2631
02:17:44,080 --> 02:17:47,000
Speaker 1: know what, the erosion is gradual, and it's happening over

2632
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Speaker 1: and over again, and you got to stand up for it.

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Speaker 1: At some point, I mentioned the First Amendment in my conversation.

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Speaker 1: We've talked many times about the Fourth Amendment. This one

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Speaker 1: involves matters of war. I know he's very strong in

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Speaker 1: his opinions about this, and that's the judge you don't have.

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Speaker 1: I have to agree with him, but at least I

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Speaker 1: think it gives you that fuel for discussion and for

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Speaker 1: intellectual process. Tim, thanks for calling this morning, Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the show.

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Speaker 14: Thanks for taking my call.

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Speaker 7: Brian.

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Speaker 14: Hey, I'm a retired veteran and I do fully take

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Speaker 14: the pay that my employer gives me for not having

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Speaker 14: his insurance. I do have try care and I use

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Speaker 14: that I do.

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Speaker 8: Not utilize the VA.

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Speaker 14: Going through my initial processing into the VA. They charged

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Speaker 14: me for it. I didn't have to pay, but you know,

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Speaker 14: but still they billed me for the services of doing

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Speaker 14: my initial screening, and I just don't trust them to

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Speaker 14: save my life.

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Speaker 1: Well, I guess you're entitled, certainly entitled to your opinion,

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Speaker 1: and that's fine. But see now that I would can

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Speaker 1: perceive that to be a complaint, and I, taking Steve

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Speaker 1: Belzo's advice, recommend you know, delivering that complaint to them

2657
02:19:06,480 --> 02:19:09,080
Speaker 1: and having answer and account for it. They may change

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Speaker 1: things based upon your experience, because obviously it left you

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Speaker 1: with a negative impression. So things have gotten much better

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Speaker 1: over the years. I mean, I don't have to go

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Speaker 1: back to Bob McDonald how bad things were when that

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Speaker 1: clown was running the show. We've gotten a lot better.

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Speaker 1: And they continue to strive to serve the American veteran,

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Speaker 1: which is why I continue to support them. And I

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Speaker 1: know guys like Steve really have your back and the

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Speaker 1: folks of the VA really have your back as well.

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Speaker 1: So maybe next experience will be better. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: but please do not hesitate to register or complain with them,

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Speaker 1: because they will they will take them seriously, Hey, Zach,

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Speaker 1: final word this morning, thanks for calling it. A Happy

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Speaker 1: Wednesday to you, Sir Brian.

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Speaker 7: Good to hear from me. I was listening to the

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Speaker 7: radio and Donovan with AFP came on. I'm very honored

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Speaker 7: to have the endorsement of Americans for a Prosperity and

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Speaker 7: my State Center race for District seven. And I've always said,

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Speaker 7: if you want change, you got to stop electing career politicians.

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02:19:59,200 --> 02:20:03,160
Speaker 7: When need privates, business people, problem solvers, people that are

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Speaker 7: motivated by a paycheck and a pension that can't be

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Speaker 7: bully bought or bribed. They're going to get to the

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Speaker 7: bottom of things, get to these NGOs, all the waste,

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02:20:11,760 --> 02:20:14,600
Speaker 7: all the corruption, roll up their sleeves and start fixing problems.

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Speaker 7: So I look part it coming on your show in

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Speaker 7: the future.

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Speaker 1: You are obviously welcome, Zach. I sure appreciate you calling

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Speaker 1: in and listening to the segment. Of course, Americans for

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Speaker 1: Prosperity certainly has your back and you will well the

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Speaker 1: fifty five Carsy Morning Show as well. I like what

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Speaker 1: you have