WEBVTT - 11-6-25 Sloan with Ed Tamowski

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<v Speaker 1>Do you want to be an Amfican slowly back on seven

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<v Speaker 1>hundred WLW. Something we do in Ohio is going into

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<v Speaker 1>a heated nationwide showdown, if you want to call it that,

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<v Speaker 1>over whether taxpayer dollars should follow students right, portable funding,

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<v Speaker 1>backpack funding, you want to call this. So we called

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<v Speaker 1>it here in Ohio. The concerns are about budgets, accountability, curriculum,

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<v Speaker 1>and it seems like school choice is becoming universal. So

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<v Speaker 1>so far now six new states have added that choice,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen overall, including the Buckeye State, and only two of

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<v Speaker 1>the new programs have full funding guarantees. That's a rub

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<v Speaker 1>so here in Ohio to bring up to speed. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're aware of this, or maybe you're Kentucky and Thean

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<v Speaker 1>or somewhere else, we did universal school choice for K

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<v Speaker 1>through twelve. It's sort of with near universal access. The

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<v Speaker 1>problem is we don't have universal funding and that is

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<v Speaker 1>the issue. We spend over a billion dollars on private

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<v Speaker 1>school vouchers this year. And joining the show, he broke

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<v Speaker 1>this down with the future where it's going is Ed Tarnowski.

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<v Speaker 1>He is with ED Choice, where he's a policy and

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<v Speaker 1>advocacy director. Ed welcome Ario, Thanks.

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<v Speaker 2>For having me on. I'm doing very well. How about you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing fine. This has been a battle in Ohio

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<v Speaker 1>for a long long time, I mean decades that the

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<v Speaker 1>state Supreme Court found it unconstitutional and legislature pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>ignored this whole thing. We moved to the school funding

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<v Speaker 1>choice where it's it's universal, it's backpack. You know, you

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<v Speaker 1>can take your money, it's out, you're eligible, you can

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<v Speaker 1>go where you want to go. But we still have

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<v Speaker 1>the funding question, which looms it's head during elections like

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<v Speaker 1>we're having and where you know, some areas are are

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<v Speaker 1>taking millage off their levees and saying, well, we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to replace that with a one percent income tax. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>say a lot of areas are doing that now because

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<v Speaker 1>the funding model is broken. Is that true elsewhere or

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<v Speaker 1>is that because we're kind of a trendsit are here

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<v Speaker 1>in Ohio on this. We're one of the first states

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<v Speaker 1>to do it, or one of a panful of full

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<v Speaker 1>states to do it. But the funding question is the

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<v Speaker 1>big outlier here.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think one of the things that that's part

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<v Speaker 2>Ohio's bachelor program from a lot of the other school

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<v Speaker 2>choice partlets in the country is well one. It still

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<v Speaker 2>is about your and most states are moving toward education

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<v Speaker 2>bigness accounts, giving families flexibility and how funds can be

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<v Speaker 2>funds can be spent. But since Ohio has had had

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<v Speaker 2>such a long history of school choice, the legislature opted

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<v Speaker 2>for just expanding existing programs instead of creating a new one.

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<v Speaker 2>But we were hoping to see Ohio move toward a

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<v Speaker 2>more flexible system in the future, where you know, families

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<v Speaker 2>can centered on things that typical tuition like tutoring, therapies, curriculum,

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<v Speaker 2>things of that nature. When it comes to the fund,

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<v Speaker 2>Ohio's the program that has universal ability where all families

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<v Speaker 2>can apply, still still fall short on funding and it's

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<v Speaker 2>actually tiered by my income. You will get more, you

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<v Speaker 2>will get less money for vouchers the more the more income,

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<v Speaker 2>the higher family's income is. And one of the reasons

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<v Speaker 2>is so problematic is because it really falls short of

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<v Speaker 2>creating maximizing a robust martiplace of education. We want to see,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we're not means testing for your local district

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<v Speaker 2>school for example, now on whatever extra in common say

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<v Speaker 2>you've been if your kids can attend your local district school,

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<v Speaker 2>So why are we doing this a school choice, it

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<v Speaker 2>should really be on the same putting. It's just a

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<v Speaker 2>way of rethinking public education.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and overall the argument has been, well, this is

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<v Speaker 1>public money and you're destroying public schools and you're given

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<v Speaker 1>the private enterprise who can do what? And there's no

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<v Speaker 1>accountability here whatsoever. But where's the accountability that's led to

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<v Speaker 1>the state of public schools right now? Where we're celebrating, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we're now we have a D average. Now we've got

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<v Speaker 1>a D on our state report card for example, and wow,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the first time we've been out of f in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty years. And we're now celebrating this and we've got momentum.

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<v Speaker 1>And then they change the standards for measuring how the

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<v Speaker 1>schools are with report cards, and we do this all

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<v Speaker 1>over again. I think people are wise to it. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't understand how that destroyed. How does competition destroy anything?

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<v Speaker 1>Competition makes us better. That's a problem with anything where

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<v Speaker 1>there's no cop healthcare is a great example of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh absolutely. And what we're seeing is school choice is

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<v Speaker 2>introducing a whole new type of accountability into American's education

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<v Speaker 2>system that for so long we haven't had because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the parents or kids are unsatisfied that they're not being

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<v Speaker 2>served properly by their school. When it comes to private

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<v Speaker 2>school choice, parents can just walk away and if enough

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<v Speaker 2>parents walk away, school will close. And the public school

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<v Speaker 2>system is enough parents walk away or or they're struggling,

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<v Speaker 2>or if they're you know, the students are struggling, the

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<v Speaker 2>school just gets more funding. We're not really seeing that

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<v Speaker 2>type of accountability. We're just seeing more money thrown up

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<v Speaker 2>the problem. And clearly what we're seeing the district school

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<v Speaker 2>system that's not working. To look at Baltimore, for example,

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<v Speaker 2>one of the highest funded school districts in the country,

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<v Speaker 2>and we've had years are not one student with proficient

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<v Speaker 2>in after readings, right, and that's just unacceptable.

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<v Speaker 1>Although it's a different problem, right because if you look

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<v Speaker 1>at the traditional typically the urban schools are the ones

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<v Speaker 1>that do poorly. At Tarnowski suburban schools or my kids

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<v Speaker 1>went to school. Now there's taxes are higher obviously because

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<v Speaker 1>property taxes. With the bill, we have plenty of suburban

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<v Speaker 1>districts that people will flock to to send their kids to.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I don't think that's going to change based

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<v Speaker 1>on these models, right, it seems like this is going

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<v Speaker 1>to hurt the urban areas and maybe rural areas more well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you know, I'm a prod to the public

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<v Speaker 2>school myself. I was lucky enough to go to a

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<v Speaker 2>good district school. But and the thing to take away

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<v Speaker 2>here is, you know, families, right under the current system,

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<v Speaker 2>we do have school choice for people who can afford it.

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<v Speaker 2>You can go ahead and take your buy a house

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<v Speaker 2>in a higher performing school district. But if you can't

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<v Speaker 2>afford to do that, then you're stuck in you know,

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<v Speaker 2>those lower performing schools. So right now we have school

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<v Speaker 2>choice in places about and places that are just relying

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<v Speaker 2>on the district school system. Still we have school choice

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<v Speaker 2>for the rich that people can afford to get up

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<v Speaker 2>and move and buy a Mark Smith the house and

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<v Speaker 2>a Marks the neighborhood. But if you can't, you can

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<v Speaker 2>only go to your local district school. It is you

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<v Speaker 2>will really be arrested if you're trying to send your

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<v Speaker 2>kids to school in a different district. Yeah, outside of

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<v Speaker 2>these arbitrarily drawn lines. So where now we have school

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<v Speaker 2>shoes to the bridge and true school choices, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>open competition allowing anyone to take the funding sati side

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<v Speaker 2>for their kids and take it to the school that

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<v Speaker 2>steps for them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's to show you all full circle. We come

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<v Speaker 1>back in when I was fifty four, when we had

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<v Speaker 1>the fight over segregating schools, Brown versus Board of Education,

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<v Speaker 1>where all you want to do is send his daughter

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<v Speaker 1>to the school that was literally across the street or

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<v Speaker 1>down the block from whether they've instead of busing or

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<v Speaker 1>acrosstown because of the color of her skin. And now

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<v Speaker 1>here's twenty you know, in the everwhere we live right now,

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<v Speaker 1>we have kind of the inverse of that. It's like, well, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>the school that's down the street for me is terrible,

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<v Speaker 1>it's underperforming. There's a better performing school, you know, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it's a private school across I should be able to

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<v Speaker 1>send my kid there if I care about their education.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, of course, and we talk about systemic racism. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean some of these just for school lines are often

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<v Speaker 2>I mean arbitrary, drun decades ago and often now the

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<v Speaker 2>intentions in mind, and yet we're seeing them defended so

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<v Speaker 2>staunchly and often blindly with that thought for with the

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<v Speaker 2>reason being, you know, this is how things have been done,

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<v Speaker 2>which I think are some of the most dangerous. We

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<v Speaker 2>then English language. It's just it's time to rethink public education.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that pandemically opens to a lot of minds,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think what we're seeing with school choice sweep

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<v Speaker 2>huvenation is that, uh I think it's the most significant

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<v Speaker 2>education reform that we've seen that the civil rights movement.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's why getting these details very so important because

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<v Speaker 2>that school choice continues to increase and we're seeing more

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<v Speaker 2>and more states and race. As we've talked about universal eligibility,

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<v Speaker 2>we want to get that funding right too, because if

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's every state can make all kids eligible

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<v Speaker 2>to applying for a program, but if they're not all funded,

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<v Speaker 2>then is a truly universal we really will be really

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<v Speaker 2>maximizing the education reform that we can see. The change

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<v Speaker 2>that we can see.

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<v Speaker 1>Ed Tranowski is with the ed choice and we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the growing number of states that are moving towards

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<v Speaker 1>school choice programs. We have it here in Ohio. The

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<v Speaker 1>problem though, of course, is we yeah, universally eligible to

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<v Speaker 1>do it, but there's no universal funding and that has

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<v Speaker 1>been a problem in Ohio for a long time. Regardless

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<v Speaker 1>of what we're doing, we spend over a billion dollars

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<v Speaker 1>on vouchers last year this year, and that gets less

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<v Speaker 1>than ten percent of residents. I think there's like a

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<v Speaker 1>well over a million and a half students in the

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<v Speaker 1>Buckeye State. What would that cost to fund that?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't have the numbers on the top of

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<v Speaker 2>my head. However, what I will say is and Ohio's

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<v Speaker 2>funding mechanism isn't necessarily one of the worst. The problem

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<v Speaker 2>as that I see Ohio is that how it's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the funding is cured based and income. We want to

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<v Speaker 2>see three university want to see all families able to

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<v Speaker 2>access because you know, the more competition, the more competition

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<v Speaker 2>is seeing, the more we see improvement on the education

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<v Speaker 2>system as a whole.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we have in Ohio it's like eight different private

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<v Speaker 1>school choice programs. That's it's pretty fragmented. Does that hurt

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<v Speaker 1>the goal of universal access?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes? Well Ohio, Yeah, yes, we talk a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>us did a choice because one of our big projects

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<v Speaker 2>every year is BBC's School Choice where we break down

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<v Speaker 2>the details of every single school choice program in the country,

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<v Speaker 2>and Ohio is always a long one. But yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean Ohio. I think the reason they have so many

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<v Speaker 2>programs one of the reasons at least is you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Ohia has one of the longest histories of having school choice,

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<v Speaker 2>private school choice in the country. Ohio and Wisconsin were

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<v Speaker 2>kind of where the modern school choices and was born.

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<v Speaker 2>Where we saw you know, regional in Wisconsin's Milwaukee, we

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<v Speaker 2>saw it in Hios Cleveland. We saw regionally based small

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<v Speaker 2>vetcher programs designed to serve love forming students, love pharma schools,

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<v Speaker 2>and low came areas. So a lot of these programs

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<v Speaker 2>have just been around for so long. You know, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think it necessarily hurts, you know, if as long

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<v Speaker 2>as we do continue to have those programs in the

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<v Speaker 2>universal ability, I think it's necessarily a bad thing to

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<v Speaker 2>have programs on top of that. However, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>think it consolidated and just have you know, universal puneying

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<v Speaker 2>across the board, get rid of that the incomes here,

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<v Speaker 2>then it may not be necessary. And what we are seeing,

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<v Speaker 2>as I kind of touched upon earlier, is Ohio is

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<v Speaker 2>a big boucher state, not an education safety's account state yet,

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<v Speaker 2>so one thing where it does fall short quite having

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<v Speaker 2>so many different toucher programs, Ohio doesn't have a robust

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<v Speaker 2>education Savit's account program or funds can be spent on

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<v Speaker 2>things other than private school tuition, which we are seeing

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<v Speaker 2>in those states last year or this year, rather we

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<v Speaker 2>saw a balance seventy five percent involved private school choice

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<v Speaker 2>related legislation, much related to education safeties accounts. So truly

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<v Speaker 2>we're moving towards more flexibility for parents.

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<v Speaker 1>And we have eighty eight counties in Ohio, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a couple dozen are more than a couple doesn't are

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<v Speaker 1>highly populated. But typically you know, Ohio, we have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of rural communities. Does this supply to them and

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<v Speaker 1>do they get squeezed out or result of that?

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<v Speaker 2>It absolutely applies to royal communities. And there's there's a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of big reasons for that. I mean number one is,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, one thing that we're putting together and we've

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<v Speaker 2>done for some seats in the paths the dead choices.

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<v Speaker 2>We call it the road map, and you'll see that

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<v Speaker 2>generally speaking, people are much more closer to a private

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<v Speaker 2>school options than they realize. I think in Georgia, for example,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's like which has a lot of rural areas.

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<v Speaker 2>I think over like ninety percent of people are within

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen twenty minute drive of a private school and two

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<v Speaker 2>even in those royal communities where they do have maybe

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<v Speaker 2>fewer options in some other areas. The glory of choice

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<v Speaker 2>and a martiplies to education is you're going to see

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<v Speaker 2>new education providers come up. In Arizona and Florida, for example,

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<v Speaker 2>which which have now both had true universal educational choice

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<v Speaker 2>for some time now, and then they have a history

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<v Speaker 2>of having school choice prior to going full universal. We've

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<v Speaker 2>seen massive increases in the number of education providers, in

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<v Speaker 2>number of schools. You know, different entrepreneurial, entrepreneurial ideas for education,

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<v Speaker 2>but we're seeing a record number of new education providers

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<v Speaker 2>popping up as a result of this marketplace of education

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<v Speaker 2>that's been formed with a system where the money's calm

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<v Speaker 2>and the child and it's truly universal everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>He's at Taranowski with the edge Joys talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>school vouchers in the whole program. Ohio is one of

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<v Speaker 1>the newer states and one of the first states to

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<v Speaker 1>do this, or maybe not the first, but we're kind

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<v Speaker 1>of the mix. But now nineteen states total are offering this,

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<v Speaker 1>and many more look like they're head in this direction.

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<v Speaker 1>The other aspect outside of rural communities that this is

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<v Speaker 1>going to affect is the fact that a judge in

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<v Speaker 1>Franklin County recently ruled that the voucher program's unconstitutional. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the other part of the problem, and that's part of

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<v Speaker 1>the process or constitutional challenges in lawsuits. But it seems

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<v Speaker 1>like it's difficult to get a measure on or even

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<v Speaker 1>move with the universal of eligibility question as the funding

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<v Speaker 1>mechanisms get fought and played out in court.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm, yeah, well as we as we often jokes

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<v Speaker 2>any dead taxes and teacher unions or others boniest groups

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<v Speaker 2>doing once private school programs are extended to pass. It's

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<v Speaker 2>certainly not the first time that we've seen losses. Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>We continue to be be calm confident that school choice

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<v Speaker 2>is legal, particularly especially at the federal level. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>the state court is going to play out in state courts,

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<v Speaker 2>so it is. We will see how it goes, but

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<v Speaker 2>we certainly hope that families will continue to being able

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<v Speaker 2>to access abroad this broad choice program.

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<v Speaker 1>Should you know, what should and what should we do

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<v Speaker 1>relative to funding? I mean, what give me an example

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<v Speaker 1>of where it works and how they do it, because

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<v Speaker 1>here it's it's property taxes and we have levees, and

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<v Speaker 1>then we have some areas are pulling the levees back

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<v Speaker 1>and we're doing income taxes and it's just a it's

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<v Speaker 1>an uncna mitigated disasters. It's been going on since almost

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<v Speaker 1>as long as I've been voting.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hm No, it's a great question. And I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about New Hampshire as an example because this

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<v Speaker 2>year we're considering them the star of this year's legislation

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<v Speaker 2>school choice legislation and when the Hampshires program does so.

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<v Speaker 2>They had had their program since twenty twenty one and

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<v Speaker 2>it started with an income limit, similar to what many

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<v Speaker 2>of OHIOT programs started with, and this year they went

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<v Speaker 2>forward and looked at an income liment, so now it

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<v Speaker 2>has universal algibility. What said the Hampshire part is I

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<v Speaker 2>was even talking about. It has one lucile of uses.

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<v Speaker 2>You can use the funds on the varying educational expenses.

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<v Speaker 2>But the main part here is that funding mechanism. The

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<v Speaker 2>Hampshire's Education's Treatment com program ties its funding mechanism to

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<v Speaker 2>the Stage education funding formula, so that money that's already

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<v Speaker 2>set aside to educate each kid follows each kid. So

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<v Speaker 2>instead of creating a new appropriation or revenue stream here.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just it said that tapping into the funding already

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<v Speaker 2>said that the state already sets aside for people on

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<v Speaker 2>average to educate them. So we're seeing it choice to

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<v Speaker 2>putting on the be put on the same footing as

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<v Speaker 2>dig your schools. It's just rethinking public education as I mentioned,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is really and based. There's no teering on

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<v Speaker 2>income based on how much you get. You know, each

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<v Speaker 2>student participating that gets the average for people funding. After all,

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<v Speaker 2>it is the money set is tied to educate them.

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<v Speaker 2>They would not get less if they were in a

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<v Speaker 2>dishous school. So it's truly putting it on the same

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<v Speaker 2>footing as dis schools. I think that's in create or

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<v Speaker 2>like I said, for a bus marketplace of education, you

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<v Speaker 2>get more competition and more competition because more entrepreneurship, more

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<v Speaker 2>people coming up in new schooling models, and we send

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<v Speaker 2>more improvement on the system across the board. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because right now, I mean I think it's less

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<v Speaker 1>than ten minus. I said eight to nine percent of

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<v Speaker 1>Ohio students are participating even though they're all eligible, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's going to take a while for that

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<v Speaker 1>to catch up. It's going to take a generation for

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<v Speaker 1>this to be common. But the funding thing is what's

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<v Speaker 1>got to be addressed initially at Tanowski with ed Choice,

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks again for jumping on this morning, appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for having me on.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting how this is, you know, spreading to other states

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<v Speaker 1>right now, the idea that hey, if public schools are failing,

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<v Speaker 1>we have an alternative. Now, yesterday I had the superintendent

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<v Speaker 1>of CPS and Studio Sean Murphy. They're making some great improvements,

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<v Speaker 1>and certainly not all schools and CPS such a big

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<v Speaker 1>urban districts, it's got problems. There's failing schools. The report

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<v Speaker 1>card is still a problem, Attendance is still a big problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Right but voters overwhelmingly supported a renewal levey for CPS

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<v Speaker 1>as a result of that, so they're obviously, you live

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<v Speaker 1>in Cincinnati, you're satisfied with the progress. But you know

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm not, I'm near a school where my kid

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<v Speaker 1>would go and it's terrible, and I want to do

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<v Speaker 1>better by them. I should be allowed to send them

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<v Speaker 1>where I want to in a better performing school. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think the school choice models actually affected public schools

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<v Speaker 1>that way, because you have monosories and all these different

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<v Speaker 1>types of schools or ways to teach kids that you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have before. So competition is good. That is the

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