1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: It's Night Side on WBZ, Boston's news radio. 2 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 2: All right, welcome back everyone. We are into our talk 3 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 2: hour now. And the big story that I think all 4 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 2: of us were waiting on today was the SNAP story 5 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 2: the future of the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance program. And I 6 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 2: know there's lots of takes on this story. I get it, 7 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 2: I get it, But the bottom line is, in my opinion, 8 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 2: a real I think, a series of mistakes. First, First 9 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 2: of all, why can't our politicians not have anticipated this? 10 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 2: And if it was apparent that the Trump administration either 11 00:00:55,600 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 2: claimed not to have the money or in fact didn't 12 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 2: have the money, why did people still have to go 13 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 2: through this uncertainty during this this entire week and it 14 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 2: still continues tonight when you when you think about it, Uh. 15 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 2: They the there was some resolution this afternoon when a 16 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 2: couple of federal judges, one in Massachusetts and one in 17 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 2: Rhode Island, UH, told the federal government, No, you have 18 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 2: to make funds available. Okay, However, there's still questions. Uh 19 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 2: it's three hours left in the month of October. So 20 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 2: we had two two judges, one in Rhode Island, one 21 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 2: in Massachusetts making decisions which are not identical they're similar 22 00:01:56,320 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 2: but not identical. And as a consequence, everything is really 23 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 2: still very much up in the air. You have the 24 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 2: Trump administration saying they don't have the money. Now you 25 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 2: have the judges saying, oh, yes, you do have the money. Okay. 26 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 2: One of the reports I saw today indicated that the 27 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 2: Trump lawyers, the lawyers for the administration, had told at 28 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 2: least the federal judge here in Boston that if the 29 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 2: ruling went against them, they would probably want to appeal it. 30 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 2: Now time is truly of the essence here. I mean 31 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 2: today's it's Friday night people. As of tomorrow, apparently money 32 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 2: will not be loaded onto their snap cards, the cards 33 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 2: that they rely upon, which to me should never happen 34 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 2: in America, and my focus is it should never have 35 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:58,839 Speaker 2: happened in Massachusetts. This is what used to be called 36 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 2: food stamps and is now called the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program. 37 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 2: And I want to keep coming back to why I 38 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 2: don't understand the politics of this stinks. It's as simple 39 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 2: as that, the politics of this stinks. And both the 40 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 2: Republicans and the Democrats, I think the Democrats more, but 41 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 2: they both have some some questions to respond to. Bottom 42 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 2: line is I never realized that one out of eight 43 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 2: Americans or one out of seven I've seen these statistic 44 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 2: quoted at different times, that forty two million Americans rely 45 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 2: on SNAP benefits. That's an incredible number of people. They 46 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 2: are people who are living below, you know, the poverty level, 47 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 2: some percentage of the poverty level. This is done, and 48 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 2: it's left to the politicians, and and of course the 49 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 2: bureaucrats apply what the politicians tell them to do. But 50 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 2: what we do know is this, and I'm reading here 51 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 2: from a piece out of the Boston Globe, which which 52 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 2: cleared just a couple of hours ago. Yeah, and so 53 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 2: officials have said repeatedly the SNAP benefits are said to 54 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 2: be halted on Saturday. We've known that for a long time. Okay, 55 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 2: abstin a deal by Congress and the shutdown. I don't know. 56 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 2: The shutdown is going to go on for a while. 57 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 2: I mean the Senate, the Senate isn't even in session. 58 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 2: This shutdown is going to go on well into November. 59 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 2: In my opinion. Uh, the benefits are on the cusp 60 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 2: of being halted due to the government shutdown, with the 61 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 2: Trump administration arguing the federal government confund SNAP amid the stalemate, 62 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 2: Democrats say the US Department of Agriculture should use available 63 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 2: contingency funds to cover November Snap bend. There's a lawyer 64 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 2: out of Rhode Island who's with a group called the 65 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,359 Speaker 2: Lawyer's Committee for Rhode Island said the providence in Boston 66 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 2: cases are distinct but complementary. And again, we don't have 67 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 2: to get into the weeds here, but you have two 68 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 2: judges coming to the same conclusion. Now again, in terms 69 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 2: of what we can talk about now, no one knows. 70 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 2: This doesn't mean the shutdown's over. There's no question about that. 71 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 2: The shutdown could go on for weeks. But as of 72 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 2: this afternoon, there's no suggestion that the shutdown is close 73 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 2: to being finished. Earlier this week, senators has said that 74 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:57,239 Speaker 2: the atmosphere had shifted in a good direction. However, however, 75 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 2: the talks have yet to reach level of party leadership 76 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 2: or engage the House of the Trump administration. Let's get 77 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 2: into some of the specifics. According to the Global Product, 78 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 2: when SNAP benefits, when will the SNAP benefits be cut off? 79 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 2: Well be cut off? At midnight During a Friday afternoon 80 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 2: hearing in the U. S District Court of Rhode Island 81 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 2: Chief Judge John J. McConnell, junior Or to the government, 82 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 2: it tapped six billion in contingency funds to make the 83 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 2: snap payments. Well, no question yet as to whether no 84 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 2: decision yet or as far as I know, whether the 85 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 2: Trump administration is going to appeal the rulings. Since they 86 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 2: are in the same district, obviously the cases could be 87 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 2: combined and you can go up in front of the 88 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 2: First Circuit Court of Appeals here here in Boston. Excuse me, 89 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 2: but uh. According to the writing of the Judge McConnell, 90 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 2: it's the court having put the issue through a very 91 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 2: high standard that the October twenty fourth lettering ordering the 92 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 2: stop of staff payment violates the Administrative Procedure Act, both 93 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 2: in terms of being contrary to laws as well as 94 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 2: being arbitrary and capricious. You've heard me mention that that 95 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 2: phrase arbitrary and capricious is often used. It's unclear when 96 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 2: food stands will eventually reach the millions of people who 97 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 2: rely on them for groceries and in what amounts this 98 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 2: is this is still this is still not foreclosed. I 99 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 2: want to now, of course, this afternoon, Governor more heally said, 100 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 2: she urges Trump to immediately restore full benefits as soon 101 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 2: as possible. Well, that's a surprise, huh, isn't that a 102 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 2: stunner that mor Healey? We try to lay this at 103 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 2: the feet of the Trump administration. She goes on to say, 104 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 2: this ruling confirms what we've known all along. Donald Trump 105 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 2: has the funds to continue paying SNAP benefits, but he's 106 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 2: been choosing to force millions of Americans to go hungry. 107 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 2: At the moment, it is unclear. This is the Globe story, 108 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 2: not what Healey said. When November benefits will begin to 109 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 2: be paid and in what quantity? Even if they have 110 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 2: all six billion dollars, you're talking about a million people 111 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 2: in Massachusetts, and you're talking about forty two million people nationwide. 112 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 2: That's six billion dollars. When you're talking about forty one 113 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 2: to forty two million, people can disappear very quickly. So, 114 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:37,959 Speaker 2: by the way, just to give you this is an 115 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 2: interesting to qualify for SNAP in twenty twenty five, a 116 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 2: family of forced net income after certain expenses cannot exceed 117 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 2: the federal poverty line, which is about thirty one thousand 118 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,439 Speaker 2: dollars a year. Here's the bottom line. What has been 119 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 2: proven here, I'll tell you what has been proven. Governor 120 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 2: Healy has decided not. And this is the in my opinion, 121 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 2: and the big mistake that Governor Heally has made. Governor 122 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 2: Heally could have basically showed herself to be a bigger 123 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 2: person than Donald Trump. She missed the boat. Now could 124 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 2: she still get the boat? I don't know. I suspect 125 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 2: that once she makes her decision, she's not going to 126 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 2: back off from it. We have eight and I want 127 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 2: you to listen to the number here. We have an 128 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 2: eight point eight billion rainy day fund. It's called a 129 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 2: stabilization fund formally. To put it in some perspective, when 130 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 2: Charlie Baker was governor, and when he came into office, 131 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 2: we had a rainy day fund of about a billion dollars. 132 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 2: That's where it kind of hovered for many, many, many years. 133 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 2: It was there just in case there was an economic downturn. Well, 134 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 2: we grow. It's grown. It's grown through the Baker administration 135 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 2: and also to the Healey administration. It's not up to 136 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 2: eight point eight billion dollars. It has not been used 137 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 2: for anything in recent years, and it certainly wasn't used 138 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:10,959 Speaker 2: to help poor people have some certainty I'm able to 139 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 2: go to the grocery store tonight if I wanted to. 140 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 2: I went yesterday, I can go tomorrow. I don't have 141 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 2: to worry about Snap benefits. On the SNAP program. I'm blessed. 142 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 2: Most of you are blessed, but not everyone is blessed. 143 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 2: That program is what is paid for by taxpayers at 144 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 2: a federal level. But we also have this Rainy Day 145 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 2: Fund in Massachusetts, and governors, not only Heally, but any 146 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 2: governor loves to talk about the integrity in their home state. 147 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 2: The integrity in this state would have been, in my opinion, 148 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 2: to basically put everyone's mind at ease and have them 149 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 2: be told that, hey, even if your Snap benefits do 150 00:10:56,360 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 2: not fill your Snap card on November first, you will 151 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 2: be taken care of here in Massachusetts by the Rainy 152 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 2: Day Fund. I'm ashamed. I'm ashamed that this governor chose 153 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 2: not to use, or at least be prepared to use, 154 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 2: so that children wouldn't go hungry, elderly people wouldn't go hungry, 155 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 2: people with disabilities wouldn't go hungry hungry, and single women 156 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 2: with families wouldn't go hungry. If you grie with me, 157 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 2: I'd love to hear from you if you want to 158 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 2: defend Governor Healey's decision not to basically calm the apprehensions 159 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 2: of Massachusetts residence, which she had the capacity to do. 160 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 2: I'd love to have someone defend that decision and explain 161 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 2: it to me. Six one seven, two four ten thirty 162 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:49,559 Speaker 2: six one seven nine to three one ten thirty. This 163 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 2: is this is a mistake that Governor Heally will pay 164 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 2: a price for politically, in my opinion, because this runs 165 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 2: against everything that she has always part considered herself to be. 166 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 2: Joining the conversation. 167 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's news radio. 168 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 2: By the way, the estimate in Massachusetts is that in 169 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 2: order to provide the SNAP benefits for everyone at the 170 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 2: one million or so people it's one point one million 171 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 2: that availed themselves that need SNAP benefits, would be about 172 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 2: two hundred and forty million dollars. That is a minuscule 173 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 2: percentage of eight point eight billion dollars. It's about two 174 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:40,319 Speaker 2: and a half percent. And I guarantee you that this 175 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 2: crisis as it exists will be over certainly by Thanksgiving. 176 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 2: I don't think I don't think either party is going 177 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 2: to allow this to linger much beyond. I think that 178 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 2: a part of the I'm sad to say to you 179 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 2: that part of what is in play here, uh, the 180 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 2: gubernatorial elections in New Jersey and Virginia next Tuesday, as 181 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 2: well as the mayoral election which which has less it 182 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 2: has less impact on that, but I will have impact 183 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 2: in Virginia in New Jersey. Let me go to the phones, 184 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 2: Let me go to Bill and Danvers. First, Bill, thanks 185 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 2: for calling in your first this hour and night side. Uh. Yeah, 186 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:26,959 Speaker 2: don't understand. I do not understand why mar Healy has 187 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 2: taken this this road. 188 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 3: Wow, I'm gonna throw a few logs on the fire. 189 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:31,559 Speaker 2: Dan. 190 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 3: You know, I'm sort of just looking at this, you know, 191 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 3: observing and and everything. And you had the auditor on 192 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 3: I believe what a week or two ago. 193 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 2: Yes, maybe it was long. 194 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, yeah, Well, I mean, do we know for 195 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 3: certain the way to put our hand on a bible, 196 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 3: that there's eight eight billion plus there in the Rainy 197 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 3: Day funds? 198 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 2: No question, no question in my mind about that that 199 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 2: that figure is confirmed by the Office of the Controller, 200 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 2: which is a non election it. 201 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 3: Official, Okay, because I mean I just find it a 202 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 3: little as a specialist that I mean, you look at 203 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 3: the last few years. I mean, and there was a 204 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 3: lot of money spent in these hotels and everything went on. 205 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 3: And I know we've covered you've covered some of that, 206 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 3: you know with these contracts. 207 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 2: Me, but do you know what the budget is right 208 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 2: now in Massachusetts? You have any idea? 209 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 3: I don't know, be honest with you. 210 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 2: I mean, let me tell you what it is. Let 211 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 2: me tell you it's sixty two billion dollars. Okay. It 212 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 2: has grown exponentially in the last few years. I mean, 213 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 2: I can remember if you go back around the time 214 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 2: that Deval Patrick, it has just grown by leaps and bounds. 215 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 2: We are collecting a lot of money. We have the 216 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 2: millionaire stacks. But yeah, there's no question that eight point 217 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 2: eight billion dollars is there. There's no question in my 218 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 2: mind that somehow someone has has has juggled the books 219 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 2: or something. No, absolutely not done me. The way what 220 00:14:56,760 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 2: Disauglia wants to do is audit the legislature and and 221 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 2: there's a number of practices in the legislature that they 222 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 2: are fighting against. And what a lot of it involves, 223 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 2: uh civil judgments or civil agreements that have been made 224 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 2: by legislators UH and non disclosure agreements where somebody would 225 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 2: accuse a legislator of doing something improper and the legislator 226 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 2: wants the uh it to go away, and if they 227 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 2: come can somehow say well, it was in the scope 228 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 2: of my employment. Uh and then there's a there's a 229 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 2: non disclosure agreement. That's what that's what this uglia wants 230 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:38,119 Speaker 2: to get at, okay, and that is what the legislature 231 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 2: is resisting. 232 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 3: You know, I was just thinking to myself, I says, 233 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 3: you know, it's kind of just because if you had 234 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 3: I mean, even if you had to release a billion 235 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 3: of it, I mean, you know, the cover or whatever. 236 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 2: Million, no, a billion. If if let us say that 237 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 2: the governors chose to to set aside a billion dollars, 238 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 2: that would be four months, that would cover November December 239 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 2: January February. And I guarantee you that this shutdown, I 240 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 2: mean the longest shutdown before it was I think thirty 241 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 2: five days, and we're going to sometime next week past 242 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 2: thirty five days, and I think the pressure will continue 243 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 2: to build. I predict the shutdown will be done. You know, 244 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 2: sometime after the November fourth elections. Shortly after the November 245 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 2: fourth election, there will be a break. 246 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 3: You know, it may get closer to Thanksgiving. I think 247 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 3: they want to they can hold your hostage for the 248 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 3: air traffic controllers. 249 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 2: Well, you know, I think let me tell you you 250 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 2: have you have one bad plane accident, even if it's 251 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 2: got nothing to do with the air traffic controllers. They're 252 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 2: playing with fire hair built, They're playing with fire. 253 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 3: Oh I know that. Yeah, but if the elections, they 254 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 3: already got the goun of workers the Northern Virginia and 255 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 3: fallout in the county. So I don't know how it 256 00:16:56,240 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 3: really helps them as far as the fourth and I 257 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 3: don't know if it may not help him at all. 258 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 3: It's it's going to be close there, you know. 259 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know either, but we'll watch 260 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 2: it play out. I'm still trying to figure what do 261 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 2: you think Governor Healy's game plan is here? Why would 262 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 2: she have not said, hey, look, I want to assure 263 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 2: everyone in Massachusetts that if the the benefits, the snap 264 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 2: benefits are not available on November first, we will make 265 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 2: sure no one in Massachusetts goes hungry. Why would she 266 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 2: not say that? 267 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 3: Maybe it's that that affunction that people get. It's called 268 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:39,360 Speaker 3: Trump derangement and syndrome. Dan, unfortunately, you know what I mean. 269 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 2: I don't know. It's it's too bad that people who 270 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 2: need help were the ones who were being played here. 271 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 3: I do know what older gentleman, you know, a little 272 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 3: later in life, he was a small business guy and 273 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 3: the divorce and stuff did a lot of damage to him. 274 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 3: And Joey means, you're getting the senior housing and stuff, 275 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:58,919 Speaker 3: but it is tight for the guy. And I know 276 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 3: he gets a little bit on the on the stamps, 277 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 3: you know. And I called them the other day. I says, hey, listen, 278 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 3: I says, you know, I want to go out and 279 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 3: you know, I'll buy then a lunch, comds and ends, 280 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 3: and you know, because I mean there's a guy, you know, 281 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 3: he probably gets like two hundred bucks a month, but 282 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 3: two hundred a month of this guy is you know, 283 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 3: and you know and that that makes a difference. 284 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 2: Dan, you know, you bet you Bill appreciate. I appreciate that. 285 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 2: That's the kind that is the individual gesture that we 286 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 2: all should be doing in Massachusetts. And the governor could 287 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 2: be doing a big gesture with our money. By the way, 288 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 2: it's not her money, it's our money that that we 289 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 2: have contributed that the state has set aside as the 290 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 2: Rainy Day Fund, and there will be people tomorrow in 291 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 2: Massachusetts who will not be able to go to the 292 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 2: grocery store because they snap card. The benefits on their 293 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 2: snap card have not been restored. We know that because 294 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 2: the judge who ruled here in Boston said, we'll talk 295 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 2: Monday about the timing of it. 296 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, and that'll that'll go on for a week 297 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,120 Speaker 3: to be in an appeal and every and that could be. 298 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 2: You bet you, thanks Bill, Talk to you soon. Have 299 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 2: a great night. Good night. Six one seven, two, five, 300 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 2: four ten thirty six one seven nine three one ten thirty. Uh. 301 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 2: This this really does bother me. And we've talked about 302 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 2: it a couple of nights, and I feel I want 303 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 2: to talk about it one more time. 304 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 4: Uh. 305 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 2: And I'd love to think that this is going to 306 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 2: get resolved even more quickly, but I'm not optimistic about that. 307 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 2: And I just think there's still now too much uncertainty. Uh. 308 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 2: If you disagree and feel the Governor's handled this perfectly, 309 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 2: please give us a call if you feel like me 310 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 2: that the governor has fumbled an opportunity here to really 311 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 2: let Massachusetts stand out. UH. Some other states. I believe 312 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 2: that there are other states that have been more generous. 313 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 2: So we're supposedly a caring state. Remember we were a 314 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 2: sanctuary state. How about some sanctuary for our own citizens? 315 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 2: At the end, does anyone see the eye here? Six one, seven, two, five, four, 316 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 2: ten thirty, there's only a line or two. They're feel 317 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 2: free to fill them up. Back on Nightside, we will 318 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 2: change topics at ten o'clock. What has happened recently is 319 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 2: that all of you decide to call it ten minutes 320 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,120 Speaker 2: of the hour. I will tell you right now. We're 321 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 2: changing topics at ten o'clock. So dial now or forever 322 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 2: hold your piece back on Nightside after. 323 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: This, you're on Nightside one Boston's news radio. 324 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 2: Let's go up to Salem speaking about Salem, and Susan 325 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 2: is in Salem. Hi, Susan, you're next on Nightside. 326 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 5: Welcome, Hi Dan, Thank you. The person who closed the 327 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 5: shutdown should be the one to cancel it. I think 328 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 5: he was off that question today and I think he 329 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 5: said I think it's illegal. Well, if it's illegal to 330 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 5: bring it back, how did he get it shut down? 331 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 5: I think really it's a political retribution situation here. But 332 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 5: I do think if Haley stepped forward and helped the situation, 333 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 5: that she would look like a hero. 334 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 2: But that's what I don't that's what I don't understand. 335 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 2: By the way, the you know, I don't want to 336 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 2: argue with you on it, but you do know that 337 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 2: the Republican senators have been voting to open the government 338 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:34,360 Speaker 2: to end the shutdown, and the Democratic senators have been 339 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 2: voting opposed to reopening the government. Now, there is politics 340 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 2: at play, so it's a little bit more complicated than that. 341 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't know that. 342 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:47,439 Speaker 2: Yes, that's the truth. That's the truth. Okay. The Republicans 343 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 2: in order to open the government, they have fifty three 344 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 2: votes in the US Senate, but they need sixty because 345 00:21:56,080 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 2: they have this rule in the Senate that in order 346 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 2: to on a vote like this, if someone says they 347 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 2: need this to be a vote of sixty, it's just 348 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 2: not a majority vote because obviously the Republicans have fifty 349 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 2: three senators. They have this concept called filibuster, where people 350 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 2: can fight against something in the Senate. Even though the 351 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 2: Senate right now, the one hundred members is fifty three 352 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 2: Republicans and forty seven Democrats, the Republicans have a majority, 353 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 2: but they need sixty votes to stop the filibuster and 354 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 2: to vote what's called culture. But they don't have sixty votes. 355 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 2: They have fifty three and two or three Democratic senators 356 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 2: have voted with the Republicans and that they've gut I 357 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 2: think as high as fifty six, but they need sixty. 358 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 2: And the Democrats have said, we will only vote to 359 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 2: open the government if you agree to certain terms, and 360 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 2: the Republicans had said, look, we disagree, let's open the government. 361 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 2: Let's keep the government running on what they call a 362 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 2: continuing resolution, which doesn't solve any of the differences of opinion. 363 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 2: But the Democrats are saying, we're not going to vote 364 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:37,239 Speaker 2: to open the government until you agree to concede two 365 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,959 Speaker 2: or three points. And there are important points to the Democrats. 366 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was a health insurance issue, raising of health 367 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 5: insurance for people that I think that's the thing that's 368 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 5: in the way for them. 369 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 2: Right, and they have every right to take that position. 370 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 2: But I think that the damage is being done to 371 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 2: people who rely upon snap benefits, also to members of 372 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 2: the military, also to air traffic controllers. And I think 373 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 2: that if everybody came to the table and said, Okay, 374 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,360 Speaker 2: we need to uh you know, do this, or that 375 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 2: they could come to an agreement on this. The point 376 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:20,439 Speaker 2: is that they get paid money to sit and you know, 377 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 2: hash things out to to to to compromise. They say 378 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:28,439 Speaker 2: politics as they are to compromise, and it's not happening 379 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 2: right now. And and and Trump is very much on 380 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 2: the side he is. He has asked the Republicans, which 381 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,360 Speaker 2: they can buy by a majority vote, to say, get 382 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 2: rid of the filibuster. They call that the nuclear option. 383 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 2: And it's I know, I'm in the weeds here a 384 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 2: little bit with you, Susan, but I wanted to be 385 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 2: thorough with him, make sure that you understood what I 386 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 2: was saying. 387 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 5: Well, thank you for that. 388 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 2: How crazy is it up in Salem tonight? If your 389 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 2: doors locked, you're close to the downtown. 390 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 5: They were saying, million people, it's quieted down. I don't. 391 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 5: I think it's more like three million. 392 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 2: Wow. Now, is it because this Halloween's on a Friday night? 393 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 2: It's not always on the thirty first, obviously, it is 394 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 2: on different nights during the year. Is it particular? Is 395 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 2: it extra crazy this year because it's going to be 396 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 2: a whole weekend. 397 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 5: Well, I think it's extra okay because they're coming earlier 398 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 5: and they're not leaving. It's very frustrating for the residents. 399 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 5: I'll tell you. I mean, I'm glad people are having 400 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 5: a good time, and I'm sure glad that the weather 401 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 5: was was fine for them. They deserve to have fun. 402 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, well, you're a good sport power. 403 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 5: It's empowering though for us. 404 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 2: Susan, thanks so much for calling and and thank you 405 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 2: for allowing me to. I think I tried to explain 406 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 2: it as fairly as I could. It's it's it's almost 407 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 2: like a sporting event. You've got to know the rules 408 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 2: in which they're playing with. Okay, thanks as well. 409 00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 5: Thanks for the time, your time, you. 410 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 2: Bet, you talk to you soon. Let's keep rolling. Here're 411 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 2: going to go to Geane and every gene you were 412 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:04,479 Speaker 2: next time. 413 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:09,439 Speaker 6: Nights go ahead, Hi, Jane, good evening you. So listen, 414 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 6: what makes anyone think that these politicians care about any 415 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 6: of us? Please don't. Okay, look around at how they 416 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,640 Speaker 6: make us live and what they do to us. They 417 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 6: build apartments over every bit of open space forcefully, and 418 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 6: they're continuing to do it. They let us get run 419 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 6: over by bikes everywhere. They they let and invite others 420 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 6: into our country and let us pay for their every need, 421 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,679 Speaker 6: and on and on and on, while there are people 422 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 6: here suffering all the time for every reason. They can't 423 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,880 Speaker 6: find a place to live, they can't eat, they have 424 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 6: no help for medical everything else, and yet we're paying 425 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 6: for everyone else. These politicians do not care about any 426 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:59,199 Speaker 6: of us. It's all about them, it really is, Jim. 427 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 2: The problem is these politicians get re elected all the time. 428 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 6: I mean, well, you know it's because. 429 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 2: We people re elect them. 430 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, but there they are, These people who are electing 431 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 6: these politicians, are on their email, their links, they're all 432 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 6: together on the web all the time, and none of 433 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 6: us are invited to that. So we don't have a choice. 434 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 6: And how long do you have to live in Massachusetts 435 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 6: to vote? 436 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 4: No? 437 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 2: US citizen? If you're a US citizen and you move here, 438 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 2: you should be able to establish that you were a 439 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 2: resident here and you should be eligible to vote right away. 440 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 7: Right. 441 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,199 Speaker 2: And I don't think you if you're if you're a 442 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 2: US citizen. 443 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 6: Right, But I don't think you have to live in 444 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,199 Speaker 6: Massachusetts too long to be able to vote. You just 445 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 6: have to have an address, you have to. 446 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 2: Know, you should have to prove your citizenship. 447 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 6: Yes, with that right. 448 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 2: If someone moves here and they're not citizens, they shouldn't 449 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 2: vote until their citizens. But that's a whole another story. Geane, 450 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 2: I appreciate. I appreciate your frustration. I hear it in 451 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 2: your voice, and I and I understand. 452 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 6: It's not right. Nothing's right anymore, and they need to 453 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 6: start caring about us and doing things for us. 454 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 2: Maybe we need to change the politicians, Gane. 455 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 6: Is what I'm saying, Yeah, well, let's try to get 456 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 6: some good people to run. That's another problem. 457 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,199 Speaker 2: I know it's a problem, a problem, But what I'm saying, Gane, 458 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 2: is that it's it's one thing to criticize the people 459 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 2: who are in office if you're not happy with them, 460 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 2: and enough people aren't happy with them, it's still a majority. 461 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 2: You know, people get elected if they win by one 462 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 2: vote or a thousand votes or ten million votes. 463 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 6: I didn't invote for half of these people. I'll tell 464 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 6: you the truth. People said, we're just leverage absolutely how 465 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 6: I feel about us. 466 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 2: Probably you're you're congress person since you live in Everett. 467 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 2: I suspect I'm certain of that. 468 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 6: I never will. 469 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 2: All right, thank you to appreciate you call. Have a 470 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:11,719 Speaker 2: great weekend happen. I have a good night you two 471 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 2: good night. Would take a very quick break. I got 472 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 2: Ann Marie coming up in New Mexico, Jeff and Abington, 473 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 2: Michael and Den, and we'll get to those. The only 474 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 2: line open right now is six one, seven, nine three. 475 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 2: We do have a guest coming up at ten o'clock, 476 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 2: but I will get to at least those three callers 477 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 2: who have called early enough. Thank you very much. We'll 478 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 2: be back on night Side right after this. 479 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: It's Night with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio. 480 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 2: All right, back to the phones, you go, let me try. 481 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,959 Speaker 2: It's gonna be tough to get. We got full lines. 482 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 2: Let's go to Anne Marie in New Mexico. Anne Marie, 483 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 2: welcome back. 484 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 8: Hi there, how are you? Thank you for taking my call. 485 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 2: You're welcome checking in. 486 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 8: So I just you know, the snap benefits thing is 487 00:29:56,160 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 8: really bothering me, and especially Maury Healy's Craven just guard 488 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 8: for her constituents. It's absolutely appalling. There are states that 489 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 8: have pledged money to fund the snap benefits so that 490 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 8: people won't go without. For instance, my state, already the 491 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 8: governor has promised thirty thousand dollars. People are getting it 492 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 8: right into their EBT cards beginning tomorrow because nobody is 493 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 8: going to be hurting in New Mexico and Connecticut and 494 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 8: Louisiana and Vermont and Rhode Island and New York and 495 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 8: Nevada and Hawaii has pledged one hundred million dollars for 496 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 8: their citizens, and I think even Virginia and Florida. So 497 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 8: I don't understand why Mara Heely is taking the stance. 498 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 8: You know, maybe she should get off her high horse 499 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 8: and call the people that are her senators in her 500 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 8: state and say, hey, vote for the continuing resolution. 501 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 2: Right No, Well, continuing resolution would simply open up reopen 502 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 2: up debate. But the Democrats are saying, no, before we're 503 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 2: going to vote for that, we want you to conceive 504 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 2: point one point two one point three. And why would 505 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 2: the Republicans concede point one and two and three before 506 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 2: there's the agent conversation? 507 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,719 Speaker 8: Regardless, there is no excuse for that woman to have 508 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 8: that much money and not take care of her constituents. 509 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 8: And I hope the citizens of Massachusetts remember that in 510 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 8: the next cubatorial election. 511 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 2: A Marie, thank you very much. It's eight point eight 512 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 2: billion with a b dollars, So if you're talking any 513 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 2: friends in New Mexico. And by the way, we have 514 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 2: a budget in the state of sixty two billion dollars, 515 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 2: so that's a pretty healthy stabilization fund and rainy day fund. 516 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 8: It is. 517 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 2: You got it, Hey and Bury, Thank you so much 518 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 2: for checking in for New Mexico. 519 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 8: Always great, Thank you. 520 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 2: Thanks you, Amory. We talk to you soon. I got 521 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 2: to keep rolling here. We're going to roll from New Mexico. 522 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 2: Get a little closer to home. Jefferson Abbingdon, jeff you're 523 00:31:58,360 --> 00:31:59,719 Speaker 2: next on nightside, Go right a head stir. 524 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 4: The reason she get away with this because the mainstream 525 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 4: media never challenges her on anything. When she says something, 526 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 4: Nobody ever counter after argument with a question, well what 527 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 4: about this? And what about that? They just nod their heads. 528 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, I don't disagree with you on that, 529 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 2: because I think that a pointed question. I don't know 530 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 2: how many news programs on four, five, seven, or ten 531 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 2: have pointed out that we do have a stabilization fund 532 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 2: a rainy day eight point eight bill. 533 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 4: Do you watch the local news? 534 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 7: Do you ever watch it? 535 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 2: I used to be part of it a long time ago, 536 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 2: you know. 537 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:50,719 Speaker 4: Do you ever watch it now, that's why I have 538 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 4: to It is fluff and we don't get Trump so 539 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 4: anything that they twisted around like we have a people 540 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 4: who listen to a talk shows a much more well 541 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 4: informed than people who watch a Channel four, five or 542 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 4: seven or ten. They give you nothing nothing. 543 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 2: I'm not going to disagree with you, Phil Jeff you 544 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 2: get my drift. Uh yeah, And well let me just 545 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 2: leave it there, okay, because I don't want to be 546 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 2: seen as criticizing people who are friends of mine in 547 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 2: the media. 548 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 4: Well that's the problem. You will criticize them them. 549 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 2: Well, it's not a problem because I have responsibility for 550 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 2: what I put on my show, and I will stand 551 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 2: by the integrity of my show, and I'll stand by 552 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 2: the integrity of my career in television if you if 553 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 2: you remember my career in television, but. 554 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,479 Speaker 4: I you know, it's it's it's. 555 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 2: You know, if I play, if I play for the 556 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 2: Red Sox and I'm a good player and I produce 557 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 2: for the Red Sox, I don't have to spend my 558 00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 2: time criticizing Aaron Judd or you know, or or Jazz 559 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 2: Chisholm on the Yankees. That should be that's up to 560 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 2: the sports writers. 561 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:11,319 Speaker 4: Well, Dan, I'm disappointed, because what do you want me 562 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 4: to do just trash everybody? 563 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 2: In four five and seven? 564 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:16,319 Speaker 4: The truth, tell the truth. 565 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 2: I do tell the truth on this program. That's why 566 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,439 Speaker 2: I want people to listen to this program. Period. I'm 567 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 2: not here to trash other people. I'm here to tell 568 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 2: you what the truth is, and that's the truth. And 569 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 2: I know that you don't like me to say that 570 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 2: to you, but I'm telling you I don't disagree with you. 571 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 2: But that's not my job. My job is to spend 572 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 2: focus on issues here and explain to them the people, 573 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 2: and and be honest and have some integrity. That's what 574 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:41,800 Speaker 2: I want you to judgement. 575 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 4: Why don't you have a so called news reporter on 576 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,319 Speaker 4: your showed and ask them questions? Why don't you ask 577 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:49,839 Speaker 4: Waal and Haley this or that? 578 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 2: If we had Governor Heally on, if she wants to 579 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 2: come on you come on any night, Jeff, what do 580 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 2: you think I'm afraid of mar Heey as a guest. 581 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 4: Come on, No, I'm having those cast is on to 582 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 4: say why are you in the why w What's not 583 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 4: my job? 584 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 2: That is not my job, Jeff. I got to get 585 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 2: to some other callers. I'm just telling you the truth. 586 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 2: I know you don't want to hear it, but I'm 587 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 2: telling you the truth. I consider you, Jeff. That's a 588 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 2: great idea. Let me get to that. I'm not gonna 589 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,399 Speaker 2: b s U. Why would a reporter four or five 590 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 2: or seven want to come on the show and know 591 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:21,839 Speaker 2: that I'm going to ask them questions like that. They 592 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 2: wouldn't do it, Jeff, I got to run. Thank you, Runch, 593 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 2: appreciate the call. Please keep calling. Let me go next 594 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 2: to Michael and Data. Michael, want to get you in 595 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:29,399 Speaker 2: one more in Please go right ahead. 596 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 7: Michael, Hey, Dan, how are you. 597 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 2: I'm doing fine. What's your take on all of this? 598 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 7: I'm thinking a lot about the eight hundred billion dollars 599 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:40,840 Speaker 7: that they're hoarding in the state House. 600 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,800 Speaker 2: No, it's not eight hundred it's eight point eight billion dollars. 601 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,839 Speaker 2: It's almost nine billion dollars. 602 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,280 Speaker 7: I don't know how they can get away with hoarding 603 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 7: now in the state House. 604 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 2: Well, because they have the discretion, okay, and you know 605 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,799 Speaker 2: you don't. For example, you know no one can force 606 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 2: you to give to charity, but you do what you want. 607 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 2: You probably are a good guy and and help some 608 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:09,360 Speaker 2: charities out. But you you put the same people in 609 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 2: office time after time, you know, year after year, and 610 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 2: you get you get the same results. 611 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 7: I don't vote. I never voted any one of them, Dan, 612 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 7: I never did. 613 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 2: Well. Find some people to vote for. You kind of 614 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 2: vote for some people. Hey, Michael, I want to get 615 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 2: one more in here real quick. I wish you called early. 616 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 2: We have more time. Okay. 617 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,959 Speaker 7: I think you got a great show, Dan, Michael. 618 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,439 Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Thank you much. It's only a great 619 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 2: show because people like you will call, and I wish 620 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 2: you'd call more often. Thank you much. My friend had 621 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 2: a great nightletk go to Paula Paula and Whitman Paula 622 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 2: and give you about thirty seconds. You're late, but what 623 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 2: can you do with you? Go right ahead? 624 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 8: Well, I just know I'm gonna agree with mister Abington. 625 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 8: I think you should call Cheeley's office and uh after 626 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 8: to explain her situation. 627 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 2: We have not had a great deal of luck. I've 628 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 2: had more helium before. I'm not probably a favorite of 629 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,399 Speaker 2: the governor's office. But I will have my producer call 630 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 2: next week specifically. Okay, great sounds good, and I will 631 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 2: report back the results of that call. Fair enough, all. 632 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:16,799 Speaker 8: Right, Thank you Dan, I appreciate it. 633 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:20,239 Speaker 2: Thank you Paula for calling. Here comes the ten o'clock news. 634 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:21,480 Speaker 2: We got to get out of the way and we 635 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 2: get back. We're going to talk about a professional pickleball league. 636 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:29,760 Speaker 2: Some of you, I'm sure have participated in this, and 637 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 2: you could turn pro if you're fifty or over. Believe 638 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,799 Speaker 2: it or not, we'll explain, and then we have a 639 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 2: twentieth hour. It is Halloween themed tonight. Stay with us.