1 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: You know a lot of people are aware, but the 2 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: paid family leave they go kicks in in January. I 3 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: was informed by our HR department that they can people 4 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: can actually claim that retroactively. They can claim it for 5 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 1: this year even though it doesn't go into effect until 6 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 1: January of next year. Talk about it, talk about a scam. 7 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 2: Actually found the funniest thing about the paid Family article 8 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 2: leave in that COVID isn't one of. 9 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 3: The qualifying conditions, even. 10 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 4: Long form and doesn't know. 11 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 5: Kind of funny how. 12 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 2: Considering the super country now for four years. 13 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 6: My husband and I I own a small business, a 14 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 6: small restaurant, an esst or. Even the paid sick time 15 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 6: that gives you twelve weeks, there's no exemption for us. 16 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 6: We normally employ teenagers. We still have to pay that 17 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 6: extra tax. It's enough to drive somebody out of a business. 18 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 7: It's going to drive people out of business. You're absolutely right. 19 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 7: Welcome to our three Twin Cities news Talk Am eleven 20 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 7: thirty one oh three five FM from the six' five 21 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 7: to one Carpet Next Day Install. 22 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 8: Studios thank you for the. 23 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 7: Talkbacks remember if you haven't updated The iHeartRadio app, recently 24 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 7: be sure you do that they're adding new features to 25 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 7: enhance your listening experience on The iHeartRadio, app and be 26 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 7: sure to take advantage of the preset function and Make 27 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 7: Twin Cities News talk number one on your. Presets minnesota 28 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 7: officials say they're prepared for paid leave Rollout january, first 29 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 7: even though it's going to be a. Disaster and, AGAIN 30 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 7: i will continue my in depth average of this only 31 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 7: SO i can tragically, say along with the OTHER gop 32 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 7: members of the, legislature told you. So the checks and, 33 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 7: balances they, say include multiple identity checks on people applying for, 34 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 7: leave verification requirements from medical providers attesting to someone's need for, 35 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 7: care and random. Auditing to apply for, leave though through 36 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 7: the state online, portal someone will need to upload a 37 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 7: photo of their driver's license and even take a selfie 38 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 7: to verify the. Identity, wow almost sounds like. Fun if 39 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 7: you use the paid leave, application you will see that 40 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 7: it is very structured information, gathering Said Evan, row deputy 41 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:54,119 Speaker 7: commissioner WITH. Deed The Paid family program will run through 42 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 7: the existing unemployment insurance. System in many, ways it's similar 43 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 7: to the unemployment insurance application that is by. Design republicans 44 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 7: are still raising questions about the verification. Process concerns included 45 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 7: how the state will handle requests for intermittent, leave meaning 46 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:15,519 Speaker 7: leave taken at different, times not. Consecutively hadn't even thought about, 47 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:19,959 Speaker 7: that but they're absolutely. Right plus situations where multiple caregivers 48 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:24,119 Speaker 7: are approved to provide care for some person or. Relative 49 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 7: is just the fact that my employer is forced to 50 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 7: take money from me to pay me less so THAT 51 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 7: i can fund someone else's time. 52 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 8: Off it's. 53 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 7: Infuriating jonathan Eichin MINNESOTA It services during The Fraud committee 54 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 7: hearing this week about the upcoming Paid Family Medical leave, 55 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 7: program says The walls administration said they couldn't possibly prevent 56 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 7: fraud unless they terminated the program or they paid staff 57 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 7: and amount equal to the benefits. 58 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 9: Distributed want to SURE i understand the scenario describing and 59 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 9: also just sort of play out for a moment If 60 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 9: i'm understanding correctly what that might look. LIKE i Think 61 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 9: i'm envisioning a group of people who coordinate with each 62 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 9: other to set up That florida. Vacation that would require 63 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 9: that all of them who are going to list themselves 64 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 9: as caregivers would come to the paid leave. Site they 65 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 9: would take a picture of the they will be forced 66 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 9: to take a picture of their face with their. Phone 67 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 9: they'll be forced to take a picture of their driver's. 68 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 9: License they'll know that they will be essentially a testing 69 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 9: to a condition that isn't. True they will be engaged 70 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 9: in a conspiracy in order to get half of their 71 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 9: usual salary for a short period of. Time they will 72 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:58,919 Speaker 9: be putting themselves in a great deal of risk for 73 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 9: prosecution for quite a meager. Benefit AND i just want 74 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 9: to encourage us that in any state program to eliminate 75 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 9: the potential for fraud one we would either need to 76 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 9: not operate the program or we would need to staff 77 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 9: the program to such a degree that the cost of 78 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 9: running it would start to get close to the cost 79 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 9: of the benefits being. Provided and so as we think about, 80 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,239 Speaker 9: fraud as we think about the technology and the people 81 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 9: involved in combating, fraud we need to look at this 82 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 9: from a bit of AN roi type. Perspective look at 83 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 9: the risk, level have layers of, security fraud, detection fraud 84 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 9: mitigation in. Place but if the goal is, IMPOSSIBILITY i 85 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 9: don't think that that is a realistic idea to. Have 86 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 9: it is our north, star but the cost of achieving 87 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 9: it would be incredibly significant given a risk THAT i 88 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 9: think we need to put in context. Here this is 89 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 9: just a word set there at least no place for so. 90 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 7: This Jonathan, EICHTIN i don't know who this person Is 91 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 7: minnesota it. 92 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 8: Services he's a. 93 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 7: Fool the scenario they laid out was that a group 94 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 7: of like a, family could coordinate via multiple jobs to 95 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 7: all be able to take a vacation by all of 96 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 7: them going and taking this paid family medical leave at 97 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 7: the same. Time and his thought here was, like, well you, 98 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 7: KNOW i would be a conspiracy and, boy they'd be 99 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 7: putting themselves an awful financial. Risk AND i just don't 100 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 7: see that. Happening did you just crawl out from under a? 101 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 7: ROCK i don't want to get too, sarcastic even THOUGH 102 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 7: i could absolutely over his, Comments but did anybody anticipate 103 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 7: that people would be using apartments stating that they were 104 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 7: feeding five thousand kids a day from that apartment while 105 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 7: they COLLECT covid relief funds and feeding our? Future you, 106 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 7: know they were putting themselves at risk as. Well AND 107 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 7: i wonder if perhaps people were questioning whether or not 108 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 7: that money should be doled out underfeeding our, future and 109 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 7: the excuse would have been according to an individual like 110 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 7: this when you compare the scenarios of, well for somebody 111 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 7: to go and say that their apartment was a location 112 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 7: where they were creating all these meals to feed all 113 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 7: of these, kids just to collect THIS covid benefit money 114 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 7: and to take, it pocket it and go and buy 115 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 7: homes or send it To, somalia or to go and purchase, 116 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 7: lavis vacations and. CARS i, mean, boy they would be 117 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 7: putting themselves at an, awful big risk to do. THAT 118 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 7: i just can't imagine that that would. Happen you, know 119 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 7: THERE i went And god All star casting, anyways DIDN'T 120 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 7: i let's go to the iHeartRadio. 121 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 8: App, wait what you have to SHOW id and verify YOUR? 122 00:07:56,240 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 8: Id why are they discriminating against minorities like? 123 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 7: That, yeah welcome to your height of. Hypocrisy, oh don't 124 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 7: need AN id for. Vote you're suppressing people's ability to 125 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 7: go and. 126 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 8: Vote if you want to go and request AN. Id 127 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 8: but don't. 128 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 7: Worry everybody will make sure that we stay on top 129 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 7: of anybody who takes a picture of, themselves does a, selfie. 130 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 8: Goes online to the website with THEIR. 131 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 7: Id we'll make sure to comprehensively look at every single 132 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:32,959 Speaker 7: one of those circumstances to make sure that there are 133 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 7: No shenanigans. Involved they think you're, Stupid they think you're so. 134 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 7: Dumb all, RIGHT i have more audio to share coming 135 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 7: up in just a. Moment we will get to your 136 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 7: talkbacks as. Well here On Twin Cities News. 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Rollout it can't expect there to be no. 152 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 8: Fraud but don't, worry. 153 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 7: Everybody you got to post a selfie show YOUR id 154 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 7: in order to take the time, off it'll all be 155 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 7: on the up and. 156 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 8: Up, Hey, john you're being harsh on that. 157 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 11: Guy he probably believes That denial is a river In. 158 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 8: Egypt heart of that. 159 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 4: Comment it sounds like there was born a whole program. 160 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 12: Checked. 161 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 4: ABROAD i don't quite know what to do about. 162 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 2: That tell, me. 163 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 13: Good, Morning. John the individual who was discussing how stringent 164 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 13: the standards will be for identifying whether you qualify for 165 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 13: family medical leave and the punishments being so harsh. 166 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 8: And severe is absolutely. 167 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 13: DELUSIONAL i worked in a warehouse and there were individuals 168 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 13: that conveniently always had their backs go out at the 169 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 13: end Of, may and they got better about the end Of, 170 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 13: august and they had the whole summer. Off now tell 171 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 13: me this isn't gonna happen with this family medical, Leaves. 172 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 3: John i'm just not quite sure if they think that 173 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 3: we're so, dumb or if they think they're so smart 174 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 3: they don't realize how dumb they. 175 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:55,079 Speaker 8: Are that's a really good. 176 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 7: Point let me share with you some more audio from 177 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:02,559 Speaker 7: the hearing that took place. Yesterday Representative rarik asked A 178 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 7: Walls administration official how many caregivers can take paid leave 179 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 7: for the same qualifying individual. Here listen to how the 180 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:13,839 Speaker 7: answer played. 181 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 12: Out so you were talking about the upper limit of 182 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 12: caregivers that can take leave and go take care of, 183 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 12: someone and on the application there's. Three and you had, said, 184 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 12: well if they had fifty people that, apply that would be. 185 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,839 Speaker 12: Rejected AND i appreciate that because you And i've had 186 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 12: that conversation previously in committee WHERE i, said, well what 187 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 12: if fifty people wanted to go take a vacation In 188 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 12: florida and they just filled out all those paperwork and. 189 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 12: Left SO i don't recall that there was an upper 190 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 12: limit in, statute but have you established some sort of 191 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 12: upper limit of how many caregivers can take care of? 192 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:49,719 Speaker 12: SOMEONE i know it's more than, three and it's less than, 193 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 12: fifty as you just. Said so where did we land 194 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 12: in all of, that Mister, rowe? 195 00:11:56,400 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 4: Madam, sure thank, YOU i, APPRECIATE i appreciate cate the, 196 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 4: question and maybe just to go back to the just 197 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 4: to go back briefly to the point around you, know 198 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 4: kind of the process checks. RIGHT i think there's a. 199 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 4: Balance there's a balance of program design in terms of making. 200 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 11: Sure that you, know. 201 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 4: Ensuring, program combining program into combining program integrity while also 202 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:25,239 Speaker 4: making sure that you've got a realistic approach to program, administration, 203 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 4: right you, know to, again AS i, mentioned, RIGHT i 204 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 4: think we've got over you, know we have a variety 205 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 4: of overlapping. Controls and AGAIN i would NOT i would 206 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 4: not understate the value of the employer role or the 207 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 4: value of of of integrity reports that we get from 208 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 4: from people or you, know from employers or just concerned 209 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 4: citizens around the, country around the state kind of providing 210 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 4: us with that. Information it. Is it is information that 211 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 4: we absolutely act. Upon is information that is tremendously valuable 212 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 4: in terms of providing, uh you, know in terms of 213 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 4: ensuring that the program is going to operate in the 214 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 4: way that that we expected. TO i need to DOUBLE 215 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 4: i just need, TO i need to confirmt just the 216 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 4: exact way of making our administrative, site just to just 217 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 4: to make that answer back to. You BUT i, guess 218 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 4: just from a blog, perspective you know we have program you, 219 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 4: know our program integrity unit is you, know exists to 220 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 4: ensure that we have traps in place when there are 221 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:29,719 Speaker 4: multiple candiggers in. 222 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 8: PLAYERS i don't know about, you but all THAT i 223 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 8: heard was. 224 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 3: Wah, wah, wah wah, wah wah wah wah wah wah 225 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 3: wah wah. 226 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 7: Wah there's no real, Oversight BUT i would not understate 227 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 7: the value of reports we get from employers or concerned. 228 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 7: Citizens does anybody is anybody full, enough foolish enough to, 229 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 7: think just for a second that any individual who is 230 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:04,959 Speaker 7: requesting the amount of time available through paid family medical 231 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 7: leave is not going to be allowed to take that time? 232 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 7: Off does anybody foolishly believe that they are not going 233 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 7: to allow that to. Happen it was designed to make 234 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 7: sure that that doesn't, happen because the moment an employer 235 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 7: goes and does that and SAYS i don't think disqualifies 236 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 7: because the qualifications are. 237 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 8: So, broad that's never going to happen. 238 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 7: Because they're going to be too afraid of the lawsuits 239 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 7: and the. Controversy it's going to. Rrupt, oh my big 240 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 7: bad employer isn't allowing me to take time. Off doesn't 241 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 7: say that this, Qualifies BUT i followed all of the. 242 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 8: Rules, hey good morning, Guys. 243 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 2: JOHN i literally just got out of a meeting with 244 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 2: my employer above this paid family sickly the guy you 245 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 2: played says that you're going to get fifty percent of 246 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 2: your weekly. Pay we were told to get ninety percent 247 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 2: pay and at the end of the, day my, opinion 248 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 2: this is all about getting people comfortable not working and receiving. Money, 249 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 2: Anyways universal basic, income get ready FOR. AI i do 250 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 2: believe this is the. 251 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 7: Plan we're actually going to be TALKING ai in just 252 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 7: a moment here On Twin City's News. 253 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 14: Talk anyone who has studied psychology or, communication you can't 254 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 14: just hear this. 255 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: Guy lying from his team di stuttering doesn't answer my. 256 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: Question it's any Basic Unfortunately bat's. 257 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 7: Government, YEAH i don't know if he's lying or if 258 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 7: he just doesn't understand or doesn't get the gravity of 259 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 7: what it is that they've. Passed here's just one more 260 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 7: And i'm running along. Here we've got a guest coming. 261 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 7: Up in just a moment here On Twin City's News, 262 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 7: Talk Representative Don, Bacon republican out Of, nebraska warning That 263 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 7: china is stepping up at cyber threat, game saying that we're. 264 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 7: Rudderless we're going to be talking to an expert on 265 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 7: how you can actually go and protect yourself from these 266 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 7: UPCOMING ai cyber. Threats but let me share with you 267 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 7: one more clip from this year that took place. Yesterday 268 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 7: Representative anderson asks A Walls administration official if someone who 269 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 7: takes taxpayer funded paid leave can continue working a second, job. 270 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 15: Uh guidance to healthcare providers TO i guess that's not, 271 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 15: technical but are you providing. That i'm really concerned about 272 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 15: the intermittent. Leave the pregnancy leave is you, know there's 273 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 15: either a baby or, not, Right so it's it's the 274 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 15: medical leaf part and the intermittent and then how do 275 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 15: you how are you going to deal with someone that 276 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 15: has two? 277 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 4: Employers that's, True Madam, Chair let me try to answer 278 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 4: each question in. Sequence so so medical, LEAVE i GUESS 279 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 4: i would just you, know WHAT i would say is 280 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 4: kind of go back to the, presentation, Right, so you, 281 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 4: know we have That we've been working really closely with healthcare. 282 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 4: Providers just had a just last, week had a really 283 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 4: good session with The Missota Hospital association about just kind 284 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 4: of how this is going to. WORK i, think just 285 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 4: a very very positive and constructive. Discussion we've had really 286 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,919 Speaker 4: deep engagement from some of the healthcare, providers you, know 287 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 4: no Fair View Mayo clinic in terms of working to 288 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 4: get the you, know THE, ehr you, know The Electronic 289 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 4: health records, integration which is going to REALLY i think 290 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 4: transform how doctors and other providers are able to provide 291 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 4: some of that information to us and provide and, again 292 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 4: uh simplify administration in that, regard you. Know and that's 293 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 4: ALSO i think where some of THE i C d 294 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 4: ten codes will come. In, well that will be yet 295 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:33,360 Speaker 4: another tool that medical providers are able to. Use as 296 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 4: far as intermittent leave, goes you, know the, rules the rules. 297 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 4: Are you, know the rules are clear that an employee 298 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 4: needs to stick to the intermittent leave, schedule you, know 299 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 4: as they. Are you, know if they take intermittent leave 300 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 4: when they are not you, know when they on a 301 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 4: schedule that they have not kind of submitted and gotten 302 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 4: approved by the, department they are not you, know they 303 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 4: are not eligible to collect intermittent leave benefits during during 304 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 4: for the for those periods and all the GUIDANCE i 305 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 4: would say that we have as a division really tries 306 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 4: to emphasize the need for, constructive collaborative conversations between the 307 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 4: employer and the employee for intermittent leave because that's going 308 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 4: to be the best chance of six that's going to 309 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 4: be the lead to the best outcomes for SUCCESS i 310 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,679 Speaker 4: think you asked about multiple employers as, well, right so 311 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 4: we do have you, know we have wage detail records 312 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 4: for you, know for all employees across you, know all you, 313 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 4: know for all employees in the. State you, know we 314 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 4: calculate the benefits based on total. Earnings, Right it's not 315 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 4: you're not you. Know now you choose as an as an, 316 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 4: applicant you're choosing whether you, go whether you take leave 317 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 4: from an individual employer or. Not you can imagine why 318 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 4: you might need to do. That, Right if let's, say 319 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 4: if you have two if you have two part time, 320 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 4: jobs one that you're working On mondays And tuesdays and 321 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 4: one that you're working On, Wednesdays thursdays And, fridays and 322 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,439 Speaker 4: you have a chemo appointment Every, monday you might not 323 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 4: need to take leave from The, Wednesday Thursday friday, job 324 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 4: but you might need to take, leave you, know on That, 325 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 4: monday from The monday. Tooesday SO i think the, law you, 326 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 4: know the law and the benefit administration is designed to 327 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 4: reflect those different pieces. 328 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 7: Together listen the keynote there was again if someone takes 329 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 7: taxpayer funded pay, leave can they continue working a second? 330 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 8: Job and the answer, was as an. 331 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 7: Applicant you choose whether you take leave from an individual 332 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 7: employer or. 333 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 12: Not i'm self, employed But i'm thinking maybe i should 334 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 12: just get a job SO i can unget that job 335 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 12: and have a. 336 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 8: Cop for amost three. Months you're not. 337 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 7: Wrong oh my, gosh this is gonna be such a. 338 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 7: Disaster all, right coming, up we do have your talk 339 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 7: back of the. Day how Do americans protect themselves from 340 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 7: an ai world war Between china and THE. Us, yeah 341 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 7: it's coming to. Fruition we actually had a recent a 342 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 7: recent cyber attack From. China so we're gonna be talking 343 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 7: With Chris. Hohorrer he's a disaster response In telcom national 344 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 7: security spokesperson about how you can go and protect. Yourself 345 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 7: we even talked back of the day coming up as well 346 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 7: here On Twin Cities News TALK am eleven thirty one 347 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 7: to three FIVE fm and live on The iHeart radio. 348 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 7: App all, right before we talk to our guest On 349 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 7: Twin Cities News, talk you got to do a couple 350 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 7: of housekeeping things. Here first, off two quick comments talkbacks 351 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 7: brought to you By Lyndahl realty that have rolled into 352 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,400 Speaker 7: The iHeart radio app here On Twin Cities News talk 353 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 7: from the sixty's five to One carpet Plus Next day Install, 354 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 7: studios specifically about the last clip that we just played 355 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 7: from The Paid Family Medical leave. Hearing this was the 356 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 7: clip where In Representative anderson had asked A Walls administration 357 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:44,239 Speaker 7: official if someone who takes taxpayer funded paid leave they 358 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,919 Speaker 7: can continue working a second. Job their answer, was as an, 359 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 7: applicant you choose whether you take leave. 360 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 8: From an individual employer or. 361 00:20:51,440 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 16: Not oh my, god listening to give, homework it's driving me. 362 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,400 Speaker 11: Crazy he says. 363 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 16: The, word and then he says the word, again and 364 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 16: then he's making the news sentence with the same. Words 365 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 16: oh my, god a big word selling going on. 366 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 2: Morning. 367 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 8: Guys this guy sounds like he's just making it up 368 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 8: as he goes. Along and he sounds like that kid 369 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 8: that says you ever have a dream and he just keeps. 370 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 8: Stuttering you got to play that. 371 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: One have you ever had a dreams that that you you? 372 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 6: Had you you you, could you? Do you want you 373 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 6: you could do so you you do you? 374 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 16: Could you? 375 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 8: Want you want him to do you so? Much you 376 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 8: could do. Anything thank you for the. 377 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 7: Talkbacks we will get to your talk back of the, 378 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 7: day brought to you By minny leaves coming up in 379 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 7: just a. Moment let's, uh let's set things up for 380 00:21:55,680 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 7: our next. Guests Representative Don, Bacon republican IN a warned 381 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 7: over the weekend that The United states was quickly losing 382 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 7: ground when it came to cyber, security and that Communist 383 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,919 Speaker 7: china was stepping up its game equally as, quickly and 384 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 7: it already Replaced russia as the most formidable cyber. Threat 385 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 7: he was ON. Cbs here's what he had to. 386 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 17: Say you, Also Congresson, bacon run The Cyber. SUBCOMMITTEE i 387 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 17: want to ask you about something significant this past week 388 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 17: THAT ai Firm anthropic said That chinese state sponsored hackers 389 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,360 Speaker 17: use their technology to automate break ins and carry out 390 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 17: the first cyber espionage operation largely USING. 391 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 8: Ai it hit. 392 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 17: Like thirty different. Companies what can you tell us about 393 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,239 Speaker 17: the scope and the targets of this. 394 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 8: ATTACK i can't say much more than what was just. 395 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,919 Speaker 14: Released other THAN i could say This china has Replaced 396 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,719 Speaker 14: russia as the most formidable cyber. 397 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 8: Threat they have much higher. 398 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 14: Technology they are USING, ai which gives you a lot 399 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 14: more capability and finding weaknesses in your adversaries cyber. Defenses 400 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 14: what concerns me more than. Anything While china is attacking 401 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 14: us every single day And. Russia we've had no commander 402 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,679 Speaker 14: in charge of Cyber command for over eight, months you, 403 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 14: know The White house or The president fired the Cyber 404 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 14: command commander over eight months ago and has not replaced. Him, 405 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 14: also the top two positions at The National Security, agency 406 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,719 Speaker 14: the top two are vacant for over eight. Months and 407 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 14: we've been CUTTING, sisa which is the agency that protects 408 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 14: our private, sector our, businesses our, infrastructure and we've cut 409 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 14: by about a, third and so our cyber capabilities are going. 410 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 14: Backwards we don't wear rudderless in a time Where china 411 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 14: is attacking us every, day and that's something that really concerns. 412 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 14: Me And i've been pushing The White house to deal 413 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 14: with this and to confront the cyber. 414 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 7: Threat you, KNOW i go all the way back With 415 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 7: Don bacon back when he was serving his time in THE. 416 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 7: Rack we used to talk to him on a weekly 417 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 7: basis when we were doing A Rock war updates going 418 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 7: back to two thousand and two thousand and. Eight so 419 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 7: joining us on the show right, Now i'm very pleased 420 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 7: to welcome from the Website sat the numbers one two 421 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 7: THREE sat one two three dot. Com he is a 422 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 7: spokesperson FOR sat one two Three Disaster response And telcom 423 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 7: national security. Expert Chris, hohor thank you so much for 424 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 7: coming on the show this. 425 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 8: MORNING i greatly appreciate. 426 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 11: It, yeah great to be. Here many thanks having me. 427 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 7: On this is the first QUESTION i have for you 428 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 7: is in response to These chinese hackers unleashing this first 429 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 7: AUTONOMOUS ai cyber attack against THESE us. Companies i'm a 430 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 7: little bit surprised that it didn't gain more. ATTENTION i, 431 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 7: mean this has all the makings and markings of an international. 432 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 7: Incident what are your thoughts on what The chinese did 433 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 7: in this particular? 434 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:46,439 Speaker 8: Attack anything stick out to? 435 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 11: You, WELL i would say it's a stretch to say 436 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:53,199 Speaker 11: that this was the FIRST ai cyber attack on THE. 437 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 11: Us we are on the constant attack from The, chinese 438 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,400 Speaker 11: The North, koreans The, russians The, iranians and many other 439 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 11: interested parties on a basis that is literally minute by. 440 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 11: Minute you, know this has been going on for some, 441 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 11: time AND i would say this is not the beginning 442 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 11: Of World war. Three this Is World war. Three you. 443 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 11: Know it is an awful lot cheaper to attack the 444 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 11: US's infrastructure and data networks than it is to send, 445 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 11: troops BOMs and. Missiles so this is not only the 446 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,360 Speaker 11: low hanging, fruit but this is the way of the. Future, 447 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 11: look all of our information is transmitted through data, pipelines 448 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 11: it's stored in data, centers and the compute is done 449 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:36,360 Speaker 11: in the. Cloud so everyone knows where we're doing all 450 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 11: of this and where all this information. Is so attacking 451 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,239 Speaker 11: it or stealing, it of course is their number one 452 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:43,360 Speaker 11: number one? 453 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 8: Goal is the? 454 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 7: Concern OR i guess maybe perhaps you can tell me 455 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 7: the levels of concern, here BECAUSE i think it's twofold 456 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:55,159 Speaker 7: If i'm not. Mistaken you have the potential of THESE 457 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 7: ai cyber attacks coming from foreign adversaries on the institute 458 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 7: that we use on a daily, basis our, employers for, 459 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 7: Example but there's also a concern on a personal, level, 460 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,479 Speaker 7: Correct and sort of where is the level of concern 461 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 7: in your mind between the institutions that we use that 462 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 7: could be under threat and also just the personal threats 463 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,199 Speaker 7: that we face on an everyday basis or are they 464 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 7: just are they two intertwined? 465 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 11: TOGETHER i, MEAN i think it really is. Intertwined. This, 466 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 11: look these guys who seek to destroy. Us they have two, 467 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,400 Speaker 11: goals one again to disrupt our operations to the stealer, 468 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 11: information and three to shape the. Narrative and that's just 469 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 11: as concerning to me, because especially with the use OF, 470 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 11: ai the spread of, disinformation narrative, shaping and social media 471 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 11: manipulation in general is the lowest hanging fruit and it 472 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:49,959 Speaker 11: has been going on to some. Time we saw it 473 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 11: back in the twenty twenty election and, before we saw 474 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 11: it in the last, election and we're seeing it every single. 475 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 11: Day you. Know the concern is that the algorithms that 476 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 11: are running platforms it can be manipulated and are manipulated 477 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 11: to try and manipulate us and what we think and 478 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 11: what we will. Accept at the same, time stealing this 479 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 11: information tells these adversaries what we are doing. 480 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:14,360 Speaker 12: And what we are. 481 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 11: Thinking are literally on an out do our. 482 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,199 Speaker 7: Basis, again talking With Chris, horror he is a disaster 483 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 7: response And telcom national security spokesperson FOR sat one two. 484 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,679 Speaker 7: THREE sat one two three dot com is the. Website 485 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,360 Speaker 7: how has we've had cyber attacks for you, know as 486 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 7: long As i've been doing the show for crying Out, 487 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 7: Loud how HAS ai changed the way in which these attacks. 488 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 7: Occur has it sped up the way that the cyber 489 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:46,199 Speaker 7: attacks typically? Occur are they occurring in in different? Ways 490 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 7: AND i guess we'll kind of get to the reason 491 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 7: why we had you on this. Morning what are some 492 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 7: of the first steps that people can do those listening 493 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,120 Speaker 7: to go and protect themselves from these? 494 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 8: Attacks, WELL i mean the. 495 00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 11: Way that it is changing cyber war affair is that 496 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 11: it makes it easier and. Faster you, know software programs 497 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 11: can generate a lot more, inquiries can do a lot more, 498 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,679 Speaker 11: scanning can be on the lookout a lot more for 499 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 11: holes in, systems gateways in or problems with the way 500 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 11: networks are set up and exploit. Them, also WHAT ai 501 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 11: can do is create programs that can one get into 502 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 11: a system and to evolve once they're inside the system 503 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,640 Speaker 11: depending on what they. Find so it really is quite 504 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 11: entidious and it should be a great concern to. US 505 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 11: i think where this you, know one of the places 506 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 11: this ends up is with the power grade thing, affected because, 507 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 11: look once if you attack the pavrid or the power 508 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 11: grid goes, down everything else is below, that, Right so 509 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 11: that is the ultimate. Domino and we've already seen a 510 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 11: tax on not just the, powrid but water, systems rail, 511 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 11: networks telecom, networks oil and gas. Platforms we've seen the 512 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 11: tax on all of. These they are, often you, know 513 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 11: mitigated fairly. Quickly but we shouldn't presume that that's always 514 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 11: going to be the. Case if we look at what 515 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 11: happened In spain And portugal earlier this, year we saw 516 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 11: the entire Country spain being taken offline without power for 517 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 11: over twenty four, hours you, know and that was devastating 518 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 11: because that means no transactions and no financial, markets no retail, 519 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 11: transactions like. Nothing you can't do anything when there's no power. 520 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 11: Grip and so if that does, happen for whether it's a, 521 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 11: day a, week a month or, longer you need to 522 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 11: be able to have your own. Power it's that one 523 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 11: through three Dot. Com one of the things we do 524 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:34,479 Speaker 11: is offer portable solar power generators so that you can 525 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 11: you could always have access to renewable power on a daily. 526 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 11: Basis and then alongside that we offer FREE sat phones 527 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 11: and free starting units with activation so that you can 528 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 11: keep in. Communication because, look if you leave the house 529 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 11: in the morning without your cell, phone the first thing 530 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 11: you do is turn around and go back and get it. 531 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 11: Right but imagine if you didn't have access to that 532 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 11: for days or, weeks you, know you're going to be 533 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 11: literally dead in the. Water you won't know what's going. 534 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 11: On so sound phones and Satellite internet units like The 535 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 11: starlink units allow you to reconnect to the world no 536 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 11: matter what is. Happening they don't rely on any kind 537 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 11: of ground based. 538 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 8: INFRASTRUCTURE i, imagine, WELL i. 539 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 7: WANT i won't put words in your. Mouth i'll ask 540 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 7: you the question. Again talking With Chris, horror he's WITH 541 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 7: U sat one two, THREE uh Dot COM's disaster response 542 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 7: And Telcom National securities folksperson forsat one two. 543 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 8: Three is it a matter of when not? 544 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 7: If at this point in your, mind we end up 545 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 7: getting hit with an attack that has a, major you, 546 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 7: know major impact on you, know Everyday americans here in THE. 547 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 11: US i mean, yes, Absolutely like we we see just 548 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 11: yesterday there was an issue with Cloud, flare and Cloud 549 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 11: flare serves around twenty percent of the total Global, internet 550 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 11: and so percent of the Global internet was kind of, 551 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 11: offline including many of the big lms and as many 552 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 11: other essential. SERVICES a couple of weeks, ago we saw 553 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 11: aws of an outage THE Us east one data center 554 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 11: that took. Out LOOK us supports thirty seven percent or 555 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 11: thirty eight percent of the world's global compute and storage, 556 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 11: market so that we're devastating effects. There and these things 557 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 11: lasted for between hours and the day or just, over 558 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 11: so they're already. Happening you. Know the question is really 559 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 11: when will the first attack come that takes us offline 560 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 11: for multiple days or, Weeks and, unfortunately you, know given 561 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 11: the state of our, preparedness which is pretty, POOR i think, 562 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 11: overall as you were just talking, about it's it's going 563 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 11: to be in the near, future not the far. Few you, 564 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 11: LOOK i hope and pray that this never, happens BUT 565 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 11: i think that's kind of ahead and the sand attitude 566 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 11: right now, well and. 567 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 7: It sounds LIKE withsat one two three as, well with 568 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 7: the services that you guys. OFFER i mean this even 569 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 7: beyond you, know cyber threats AND. AI i know there's 570 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 7: been a lot of, talk especially with the northern lights 571 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 7: that everybody could see all the way down to to 572 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 7: parts of the country they never. Expected but there's a 573 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 7: lot of concerns with the shifting of the polls here 574 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 7: and what that can end up. Happening if we have 575 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 7: an event like we had just just recently with our 576 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 7: systems going. 577 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 8: DOWN i imagine was that, one two. 578 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 7: Three these are also things that people can, do can 579 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 7: go and do to prepare, for you, know sort of 580 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 7: more natural, occurrences natural disasters that may go and bring 581 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 7: our systems. 582 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 8: Down. 583 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 11: Correct, Yeah, LOOK i mean we got back to eighteen 584 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 11: fifty nine and The carrington, event which was the most 585 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 11: intense geomagnetic storm ever, recorded that took out things like 586 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 11: the telegraph, network but we didn't have a lot of 587 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 11: other electronics around at the. Time but if we saw 588 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 11: that again, today we could see absolutely devastating. Effects these 589 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:41,479 Speaker 11: solar events can take out all electronic, components you, know 590 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 11: wherever they. Hit and if you think about the consequences of, 591 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 11: that that's, everything, right that's, phones, computers, television's, cars, planes 592 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 11: and on and on and. On and we are not 593 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 11: well prepared for. That our power grid is not well 594 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 11: prepared for. That and, again the domino effects that come 595 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 11: from you, know to be absolutely. Devastating, yeah it's not 596 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 11: just cyber, attacks it's natural disasters that we have to worry, 597 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 11: about you, know even on a local. Level when we 598 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 11: see these devastating hurricanes that come through they take those 599 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 11: hurricanes take out you, know fiber optic networks and cell 600 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 11: towers that we rely on for. Communications SO stat phone 601 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 11: Satellite internet units enable you to stay connected no matter 602 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 11: what's happened to the power, grid the cell, towers or 603 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 11: any other kind of communication. 604 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 7: NETWORKS sat one two, three that's the, numbers one two, 605 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 7: THREE sat one two. 606 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 8: Three dot com is the. 607 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 7: Website one more thing BEFORE i let you go this, 608 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 7: MORNING i just wanted to mention you are also committed 609 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 7: to animal, welfare various rescue initiatives over the. Years i'm 610 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 7: an animal lover. MYSELF i love my, dog And i've 611 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 7: always loved the dogs that we've had in our family. 612 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 7: Deeply BUT i wanted to do to just bring that 613 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 7: up and give you just a moment to talk thirty 614 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 7: seconds about your your animal. ADVOCACY i believe you have 615 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 7: some rescue dogs In colorado with your family as. 616 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 8: Well, Correct, yeah that's. 617 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 11: CORRECT i appreciate you. Asking. Yeah, LOOK i think when 618 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 11: it comes to, pets we will our, pets but one 619 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 11: of the best ways you can help pets is to rescue. 620 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 11: One i'll buy. 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Meeting 656 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 7: they're also proposing a ban on the salt rifles and 657 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 7: high capacity. Magazines gotta Thank Minnesota Gun Owner's. Caucus they're 658 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:50,400 Speaker 7: preparing a lawsuit if He dina does go and approve this. 659 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 7: Ordinance i'll give you the details of what is entailed in, 660 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 7: this but let's go ahead and go to some audio 661 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:56,319 Speaker 7: before we close out the show. 662 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 8: Today this is. 663 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,359 Speaker 7: The Adyna City council as The Minnesota Gun owners cock 664 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 7: is posted ON X dumb And dumber Three Gun control. 665 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 7: Edition in under twenty, seconds they managed to confuse automatic, 666 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,839 Speaker 7: rifles automatic, weapons and military style, rifles all while trying to. 667 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 8: Ban and commonly owned a semi automatic. 668 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,799 Speaker 7: Rifle these are people writing local gun, laws and they 669 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:20,759 Speaker 7: really should. 670 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 5: Not what are considered automatic, rifles but not necessarily all automatic. 671 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 5: Revels because it blows through the wall if it's too, 672 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 5: strong automatic, weapons an automatic. 673 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 16: Rifle, somebody these automatic weapons ought to be a. 674 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 5: Banned automatic, rifles the military style automatic, weapon an automatic, 675 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:42,239 Speaker 5: weapon automatic, rifles automatic, revels because it blows through the 676 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 5: wall if it's too. 677 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 8: Strong the, Council i'm. 678 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,800 Speaker 7: Sorry council read a proposed ordinance for the first time 679 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 7: earlier this week wherein it states there is a public 680 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,400 Speaker 7: safety and welfare crisis resulting from gun violence in the. 681 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 7: CITY i, know just the guns just autonomously going around 682 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 7: and shooting everything up in. Sight the city finds a 683 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:09,280 Speaker 7: semi automatic military style assault, weapons ghost, guns large capacity, 684 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 7: magazines binary triggers have not commonly been used for self defense, 685 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 7: purposes but you're saying there's a chance. Yet these firearms 686 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 7: and firearm modifications inherently have a significantly higher capacity for causing, damage, 687 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 7: injury and death compared to ordinary firearms used for lawful self. Defense, 688 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,359 Speaker 7: purposes similar to the one that was passed In Saint 689 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,760 Speaker 7: paul last. Week both councils say they know it's largely 690 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,799 Speaker 7: symbolic because it is since The minnesota state law doesn't 691 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,479 Speaker 7: allow cities to enforce their own gun. Laws and, again 692 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 7: The Minnesota Gun Owner's caucus is preparing to SUE hedna 693 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 7: if the ordinance is. Approved democrats have an incredibly twisted 694 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,759 Speaker 7: view of what local elected leadership priorities should. 695 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 8: BE i shouldn't really make. 696 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 7: That exclusive to local elected leadership and the city councils 697 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 7: coluncils up. Either i'm wondering if they have like a 698 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,799 Speaker 7: problem when it comes to like big, trucks because you 699 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 7: know they can cause significant more damage if they get 700 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:05,879 Speaker 7: into an accident as. 701 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,319 Speaker 8: Well thank you so. 702 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,319 Speaker 7: Much for hanging out on the show this. MORNING i 703 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,319 Speaker 7: hope you had as much fun AS i. Did thank 704 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,279 Speaker 7: you To devin and The Master Control. Booth he will 705 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,400 Speaker 7: be leaving, shortly but not before he puts the podcast 706 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 7: up for you to. Enjoy in case you missed to 707 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 7: any portion of today's, Show, tomorrow it is A Freedom, 708 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 7: friday on and off topic comments all morning. Long the 709 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:32,400 Speaker 7: return Of Representative Max rymer also the return OF Rnc 710 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,759 Speaker 7: committee Man Ak, Kamara Grace keating From American experiment in 711 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 7: The American experiment Podcast all In studio And It all 712 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 7: starts at six oh. 713 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 8: Six have a Great. Thursday, bye