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Speaker 1: It is showtime. A very pleasant, good evening, everybody. Greetings

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Speaker 1: from the original Montgomery In home of the world's greatest rips.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Scott Saderfield Radio Show. Now, as you know,

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Speaker 1: this show is normally on a Tuesday night. Because the

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Speaker 1: basketball team played last night, the football show moves to

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Speaker 1: Wednesday night, which, as it turns out, is a very

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Speaker 1: important night for the coaching staff. So Coach Saderfield is

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Speaker 1: not here this evening, but we've got a couple of

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Speaker 1: great guests that are going to carry us through the

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Speaker 1: next hour. Up first, the athletic director at the University

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Speaker 1: of Cincinnati, please welcome John Cunningham.

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Speaker 2: And a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Later in the show we will hear from UC's football

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Speaker 1: general manager, Zach Grant. Great conversations coming up with John

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Speaker 1: and Zach. Let's start with the season tonight for this

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Speaker 1: football program. Seven and two, with three games left in

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Speaker 1: the regular season. If the Bearcats win, and these last

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Speaker 1: three games are all against very good opponents Arizona, BYU

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Speaker 1: and on the road at TCU. But if Cincinnati wins

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Speaker 1: these three games, the Bearcats will play for the Big

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Speaker 1: Twelve championship in Dallas. It's year three in this league.

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Speaker 1: That would be an extraordinary accomplishment if they can pull

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very exciting. Obviously, there's only a couple schools

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Speaker 3: in the country that can say that everything's still in

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Speaker 3: if you think about it, you could just say that

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Speaker 3: the playoffs starts this Saturday, and you just sort of

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Speaker 3: win in advance, win in advance, and you get to

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Speaker 3: the goal, which was at the beginning of the year

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Speaker 3: and really all spring, all summer, everybody all they talked

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Speaker 3: about was let's get to Dallas. Let's play for a

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Speaker 3: championship in Dallas, a Big twelve championship, because we know

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Speaker 3: when we get there, you're one game away from the

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Speaker 3: playoff and you just kind of take it from there.

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Speaker 3: So exciting to be in this position, really proud of

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Speaker 1: Coach Sadderfield took over a couple of years ago under

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Speaker 1: challenging circumstances. Whenever you have a coaching change nowadays in

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Speaker 1: college football, everybody's free to leave. A lot of players do.

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Speaker 1: In his case, he was also moving into a much

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Speaker 3: It's been his steadiness. It's just who he is, you know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he had a system that he wanted to

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Speaker 3: And so I think his steadiness throughout this process. Somebody

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Speaker 3: leading into this year was a team that was really gelling,

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Speaker 3: coming together. Our best players are our leaders, are captains,

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Speaker 3: I just felt like that's what we were experiencing in

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about Zach's department, because one of the things

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Speaker 1: Beginning on July first, colleges could begin paying players directly.

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Speaker 1: Has it stabilized college sports at all?

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Speaker 3: Boy loading question I don't know if it has yet, Okay,

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Speaker 1: The next two football games are at Nippert Stadium this

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Speaker 3: You know, I certainly think so. You know, we have

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Speaker 3: And that week specifically, there's not a lot of games

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Speaker 1: A big twelve championship game is obviously a major goal

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Speaker 1: amazing to be back in the college football playoff just

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Speaker 1: regardless of all of that, you're going back to a

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Speaker 3: Always exciting. Feel so happy for our seniors. You know

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Speaker 3: I actually haven't dove in do it too much. I

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Speaker 1: But well, the Pop Tarts Bowl is in Orlando, so

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Speaker 1: these are great markets, good stadiums, big time opponents. It's

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Speaker 1: But before we turn it over to the audience, want

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Speaker 1: That was a nice win last night.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a lot of fun. I mean, it

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Speaker 3: We we certainly had the things that are gonna drive

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Speaker 1: This is the Scott Sadderfield Radio Show, Live from the

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Speaker 1: original Montgomery In Home of the World's Greatest Ribs. Our

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Speaker 3: Oh, that's fun to hear this.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Scott Saderfield Radio Show, live from

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Speaker 1: the original Montgomery in the home of the world's greatest ribs.

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Speaker 1: Our special guest tonight pinch hitting for Coach Saderfield, Athletic

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Speaker 4: Mister Cunningham, Cincinnati has not had a lot of years

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Speaker 5: I have both an observation kind of slash duvetail on

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Speaker 1: the basketball program has hired. Corey Evans has come aboard

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Speaker 1: from the Oklahoma City Thunder, the NBA champion last year.

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Speaker 1: So now you've gone to this model in football and

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Speaker 1: men's basketball with GMS helping the head coach and the

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Speaker 1: entire coaching staff build a roster.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been fun to be around Zach Grant obviously,

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Speaker 3: but but Corey Evans is special as well, and Corey's

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Speaker 3: been around basketball. I've actually known Corey for several years.

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Speaker 3: He's there was a guy that they used to call

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Speaker 3: worldwide West and Basketball because he knew everybody. I feel

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Speaker 3: like Corey's worldwide Corey because he knows he goes everywhere

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Speaker 3: in the basketball world. People know who he is, and

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Speaker 3: it's just been such a key to to building this

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Speaker 3: this roster. Ian. I'm so excited about what he's going

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Speaker 3: to do in the future because he's already talking about,

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Speaker 3: you know, players that he's seen out and about in

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Speaker 3: the future, and he's got ties to Europe, and he's

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Speaker 3: got ties to the NBA, and he's got ties to

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Speaker 3: the G League and all those good things. So it's

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Speaker 3: gonna be fun to watch him and Wes and that

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Speaker 3: whole crew work together to build the roster. But Cory's

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Speaker 3: a unique individual, very very smart nose basketball top to bottom,

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Speaker 3: and again he knows everybody in the industry.

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Speaker 1: All right, we'll take a time out. We'll be joined

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Speaker 1: by general manager of the Football Program, Zach Grant, when

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Speaker 1: we con continue. This is the Scott Sadderfield Radio Show.

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Speaker 1: We're live at the original Montgomery In home of the

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Speaker 1: world's greatest ribs, on seven hundred WLW. We are back

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Speaker 1: on the Scott Satderfield Radio Show a Wednesday night this

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Speaker 1: week instead of the normal Tuesday night. As a result,

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Speaker 1: we've got a couple of special guests taking us through

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Speaker 1: the show this evening. We had Athletic director John Cunningham

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Speaker 1: join us in the first half hour, and now we

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Speaker 1: are joined by the Football Program's general manager, Zach Grant.

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Speaker 1: Here in the second half hour. We'll take questions from

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Speaker 1: the audience and just a bit we also have stuff

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Speaker 1: to give away at the end of the show. Here

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Speaker 1: at the original Montgomery d Zach. I want to start

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Speaker 1: with your quarterback, Brendan Soresby. He had good, not great

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Speaker 1: statistics at Indiana. He wasn't that highly recruited coming out

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Speaker 1: of his high school in Texas. What did you and

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Speaker 1: your staff see on the tape from the limited playing

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Speaker 1: time he had at Indiana that made you say, this

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Speaker 1: guy can be a great quarterback for us.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: The first thing when we were looking at what we

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Speaker 7: need to do at the quarterback position after the twenty

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Speaker 7: three season, we knew we needed to go get a starter,

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Speaker 7: and it was my job to kind of evaluate the

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Speaker 7: whole country, all the quarterbacks in different situations who may

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Speaker 7: or may not leave.

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Speaker 3: So I'm just.

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Speaker 7: Initially grading all of them. When I hit on Soresby,

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Speaker 7: the number one thing that stood out was his toughness.

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Speaker 7: I think that's an underrated thing the quarterback position that

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Speaker 7: not a lot of people look at it.

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Speaker 3: You know, you're looking.

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Speaker 7: At his arm strength and this and that. But if

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Speaker 7: you are the leader of the football program and you

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Speaker 7: want your players to play hard for you, you need

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Speaker 7: to be really tough. And his toughness showed out at Indiana.

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Speaker 7: We'd watch his postgame press conferences. He was playing through

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Speaker 7: an ac joint spraint on his throwing shoulder, and he

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Speaker 7: never complained. He never missed a beat. But beyond that,

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Speaker 7: you know, he had good feet in the pocket. He

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Speaker 7: was calm operating from within the pocket. He was able

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Speaker 7: to elude and avoid sacks playing with you know, an

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Speaker 7: average offensive line, and you know Indiana was making a

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Speaker 7: run through the season with that. Eventually they were getting

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Speaker 7: fired as a staff, you know, that's how it ended.

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Speaker 7: But when Brendan took over the job, I saw a

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Speaker 7: noticeable difference in the way the players around him played.

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Speaker 7: And I simply thought that when when wideouts were open,

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Speaker 7: he was hitting them, So I thought he saw the

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Speaker 7: field well. Truthfully, I think getting him here and it's

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Speaker 7: probably due to the injury, his arm talent is better

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Speaker 7: than I thought, But everything else has been a dream

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Speaker 7: come true. And it's a testament to coach Siderfield and

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Speaker 7: coach Thomas developing him from year one to year two.

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Speaker 7: I mean, everyone can see the jump he's made, and

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Speaker 7: a lot of it's the pieces around him, but you

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Speaker 7: know he'd fit our offense perfectly, and they've done an

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Speaker 7: incredible job.

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Speaker 1: Similar question about Jake Gold Day. Dame Brugler from The

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Speaker 1: Athletic came out with his top fifty NFL draft board

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Speaker 1: this week. He's got Jake going number forty two. I think,

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Speaker 1: so that would be a high second round pick in

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Speaker 1: next year's draft. He played at Central Arkansas. He was

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Speaker 1: not heavily recruited out of high school, kind of a

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Speaker 1: rush end type player as opposed to an off the

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Speaker 1: ball linebacker. What did you guys see in Jake gold

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Speaker 1: Day that made you think this guy can play that

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Speaker 1: position and play it well for us?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, honestly, that one was pretty simple. When we showed

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Speaker 7: him to our defense of staff, it was like three

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Speaker 7: clips and it was like, this is the biggest freak

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Speaker 7: there is the portal. He never got tweeted about, there

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Speaker 7: was no publicity around him, and he never got ranked,

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Speaker 7: and all those situations are perfect, Like we were convicted

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Speaker 7: about what we saw in the person he was. His

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Speaker 7: path to get to where he was playing the linebacker

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Speaker 7: position probably helped us, and that it was a little

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Speaker 7: unique out of high school. He was a COVID recruit,

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Speaker 7: so that's how he got lost. When we go back

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Speaker 7: and evaluate why we like these portal players, now, what

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Speaker 7: did they look like in high school and how can

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Speaker 7: it inform our decisions? Then he showed everything on high

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Speaker 7: school tabe you would want. I think he just got

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Speaker 7: lost in the shuffle, and he played two years as

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Speaker 7: an edge rusher at Central Arkansas on one year off

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Speaker 7: the ball. The instincts playing off the ball have improved

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Speaker 7: now in year two in the system, but the athletic

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Speaker 7: gifts have always been there. And I would predict that

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Speaker 7: his draft stock increases once he runs.

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Speaker 1: The forty, because it's going to be very fast for

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Speaker 1: guy who's two hundred and forty pounds. I happened to

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Speaker 1: talk to Jake for a podcast earlier this week, and

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Speaker 1: on the flip side of this, when he enters the

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Speaker 1: portal and you guys try to recruit him to Cincinnati,

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Speaker 1: he mentioned that a member the coaching staff flew down

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Speaker 1: to where he was three times in the first week

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Speaker 1: to take him out to dinner.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think Jake was embellishing that a little bit.

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Speaker 7: I remember it being too. Due to the specific NCAA

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Speaker 7: rules surrounding you're allowed to do it once a week,

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Speaker 7: so coach brads went on either like a Thursday, Friday,

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Speaker 7: or Saturday, and then the following Monday, which was the

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Speaker 7: New week. But the rules always changed in college football.

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Speaker 7: Currently we're not able to see the portal players like

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Speaker 7: that was in the spring, I guess, but you know

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Speaker 7: it was an open period when he was able to

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Speaker 7: go and anybody was like, you're able to do it.

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Speaker 7: So this past cycle you weren't, okay, But as the

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Speaker 7: rules change, we're going to take advantage of every possible

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Speaker 7: thing we can. And you know, when you go to

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Speaker 7: see a kid in person one day after they go

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Speaker 7: in the portal, I think that's pretty impressive and shows.

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Speaker 3: The commitment to him.

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Speaker 7: And you know, the moment he went in the portal,

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Speaker 7: we knew we wanted him, and coach Breswell shot down

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Speaker 7: and did a great.

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Speaker 1: Job strictly by the rules. Just to be clear. So

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Speaker 1: when you identify somebody who is quote unquote on under

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Speaker 1: the radar type recruit. Maybe he's at a smaller school,

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Speaker 1: maybe he's had injury problems, but you've seen stuff on

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Speaker 1: tape that you like and you want to bring him

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Speaker 1: to Cincinnati. How do you keep it secretive? How worried

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Speaker 1: do you get about you know, the word getting out

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Speaker 1: on a guy?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it starts with our just the way

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Speaker 7: I came up being at Western Kentucky for five years,

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Speaker 7: Like we're never I.

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Speaker 3: Was never in the limelight in any way. Nobody was ranked.

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Speaker 3: There was none of that.

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Speaker 7: It was just purely the conviction you had about the player,

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Speaker 7: their skill set, and what you wanted as a team.

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Speaker 7: How we try to manufacture less publicity in the recruiting process,

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Speaker 7: you know, we're just not advertising what we do. Some

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Speaker 7: people try to artificially do that to gain like Hooplin

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Speaker 7: publicity and.

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Speaker 3: Buzz.

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Speaker 7: You know, there's two ways to do it. That's a

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Speaker 7: positive decision in some ways. Certainly for us, we just

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Speaker 7: want to acquire the player and it doesn't have to

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Speaker 7: come with four stars. As a matter of factly some

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Speaker 7: schools will lobby the two four seven reporters to make

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Speaker 7: the rankings higher for them. We would rather do it

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Speaker 7: the opposite way, both to have a chip on the

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Speaker 7: shoulder on our guys and just to keep them away

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Speaker 7: from other teams that might just look at that stuff

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Speaker 7: and want to recruit them. So we'll let the ranking

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Speaker 7: fall how they are. For us, it's about the person

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Speaker 7: and about the player and the fit.

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Speaker 3: At Cincinnati, one of.

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Speaker 1: The real success stories on the team this year is

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Speaker 1: the wide receiver position. You brought all these guys basically

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Speaker 1: in five guys in the transfer portal, and it's not like,

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Speaker 1: all right, you hit on one and the other guys

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Speaker 1: are okay. They've all made major contributions. How did you

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Speaker 1: pull that off with this group? What were you looking for?

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Speaker 1: And why have this? Why have all five of these

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Speaker 1: guys been successful.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, when you're trying to build a receiver room, it's

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Speaker 7: it's like a basketball team. Everybody has their own specific

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Speaker 7: skill set and what you need. We have one of

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Speaker 7: the fastest players in the country in Caleb Goodie. You know,

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Speaker 7: we have a point guard so to speak, in Cyrus Allen.

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Speaker 7: You know, there's a do it all type player, and

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Speaker 7: Noah Jennings. There's a scorer at you know, power forward

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Speaker 7: or shooting guard or whatever you want to call it,

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Speaker 7: and Jeff Caldwell and I don't know if there's a

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Speaker 7: basketball term for it, but the best one with the

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Speaker 7: ball in his hands is Isaiah Johnson. So it all

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Speaker 7: worked out in that way. You're trying to fit different

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Speaker 7: pieces together so that you have different answers to things.

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Speaker 7: Defenses new but the key to it all truly. Number

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Speaker 7: one obviously was VJ. Stingley. He did an incredible job

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Speaker 7: recruiting those guys. But Brendan Soresby I saw him grow

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Speaker 7: as a leader as he helped recruit those players. He

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Speaker 7: took ownership of it. He knew if he was going

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Speaker 7: to be really good, he needed guys to throw the

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Speaker 7: ball to that not only were good, but we're there

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Speaker 7: because he talked to them. It like talked him into

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Speaker 7: it and could lead them once he's there or once

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Speaker 7: they're there. And you know, they all watched the tape

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Speaker 7: and they saw the arm talent Brendan had and he

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Speaker 7: was a big reason for it.

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Speaker 1: Is Cincinnati unusual in the way that you have veteran

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Speaker 1: leaders more or less vet the transfer players that you're considering.

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Speaker 7: I'd be shocked if more teams don't do that. I

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Speaker 7: just think it's so obvious. But we make an intentional

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Speaker 7: focus to make that happen. You know, we talk about

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Speaker 7: coach Sadderfield's philosophy in terms of team building and leadership,

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Speaker 7: and it's a player driven program.

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Speaker 3: You know, John.

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Speaker 7: Cunningham made mention to this. But you know, we're good

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Speaker 7: because we have incredible leaders on this team. Starting with

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Speaker 7: Gavin Gearhart and the the number of the players that

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Speaker 7: were here you know, even before coach that got here

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Speaker 7: and since jac mentioned it, I want to give name

654
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Speaker 7: to those guys. There's ten players on the team that

655
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Speaker 7: we're here when Coach sat arrived that have stayed. And

656
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Speaker 7: when you talk about the culture and the fibric of

657
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 7: the team and guys being through the fire, it doesn't

658
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 7: like it doesn't get more than that after surviving a

659
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Speaker 7: coaching change, going three and nine, staying here throughout all

660
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Speaker 7: of it, for us, it's really special. And that's Brady Lichtenberg,

661
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Speaker 7: Gavin Gearheart, Ethan Green, Dante Corleone, Rob Jackson, Drew Logan,

662
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Speaker 7: Jonathan Thompson, Jack Dingle, Sincere Lewis, Ben Blevins, and you know,

663
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Speaker 7: those ten guys truly like some of more like high

664
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Speaker 7: profile leadership roles than others.

665
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Speaker 3: But you know they control and.

666
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Speaker 7: Monitor the locker room at a high level, along with

667
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Speaker 7: some other transfers we brought in. And if it's going

668
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Speaker 7: to be a player driven program, we need to make

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Speaker 7: sure those guys are around them or the transfers when

670
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Speaker 7: we bring them in just to self select the right

671
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Speaker 7: types of players.

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Speaker 1: It's good stuff. We're going to take a time out.

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Speaker 1: Questions from the audience when we continue. Our guest is

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Speaker 1: the general manager of the seven and two U SEE

675
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Speaker 1: football team, ranked twenty second in the country, Zach Grant.

676
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Speaker 1: Big game coming up for the Bearcats this Saturday at

677
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Speaker 1: noon against six and three Arizona Wildcats will continue from

678
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Speaker 1: the original Montgomery In, home of the world's greatest rips.

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Speaker 1: In just a moment on seven hundred WLW, we are

680
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Speaker 1: back at the original Montgomery In, home of the world's

681
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Speaker 1: greatest dribs and the Scott Saderfield Radio Show. Here in

682
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Speaker 1: seven under WLW. We will be back here tomorrow night

683
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Speaker 1: for the Wes Miller Radio Show eight to nine tomorrow

684
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Speaker 1: again on the Big One. Time for questions from the

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Speaker 1: audience for the general manager at football program, Zach Grant.

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Speaker 3: Bob is up first, Hi, Zach.

687
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Speaker 2: If you're like me, I want a team full of

688
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,800
Speaker 2: players that really want to be here and want to

689
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Speaker 2: be Cincinnati Bearcats. But they don't all start out that way.

690
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 2: You got to sort of sell them on the idea.

691
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Speaker 2: So what point in the process to you to you

692
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Speaker 2: sort of switch from selling to evaluating how badly they

693
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Speaker 2: want to be Bearcats.

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Speaker 3: It's a great question.

695
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Speaker 7: We're always evaluating them throughout the process. We get very

696
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 7: limited exposure to like seeing them in person, just because

697
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 7: we either have to go to them or they come

698
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 7: to campus, so seeing how they are as people during

699
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 7: that time were constantly evaluating them. But within the ever

700
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 7: and never ending cycle of recruiting and the different touch

701
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 7: points that they have with people on our staff, Cass

702
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 7: Simmons and tyg Leach, along with the gas QC's interns

703
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 7: and the position coaches are typically selling the players so

704
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,399
Speaker 7: that they want to come up here and visit right

705
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 7: But once they sit down with coach Sadderfield. This is

706
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 7: frustrating for me at times because I'm like, go close

707
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 7: this guy, But his philosophy is I want to make

708
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Speaker 7: sure they want to come here and want to play here,

709
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Speaker 7: so he's never going to beg anybody to come. I

710
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 7: think now that we have started to have the success

711
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 7: that we knew was coming, it's easier to operate that

712
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 7: way out of a position of power, certainly, but that's

713
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Speaker 7: one way to self select the right types of players.

714
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 7: We're just going to be as authentic and real as possible,

715
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 7: make sure they know what they're getting into when they

716
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 7: sign up for it. It's a hard program. The offseason

717
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 7: is going to make them better, but it's brutal with

718
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Speaker 7: coach Nico, So they need to know that coming up.

719
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Speaker 7: And if a guy, if you see the look in

720
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 7: their eye that they want that fire, then then let's go.

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Speaker 7: And that's one good way to know Fellas.

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Speaker 5: Zach, everybody has been so amazed and impressed and everything

723
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Speaker 5: else you can think of with Jake Golday, is there

724
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Speaker 5: another player that also has been an absolute gem that

725
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Speaker 5: not just met your expectations but exceeded it even.

726
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Speaker 7: When you're comparing him to Jake Golda, that's tough. One

727
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Speaker 7: guy that doesn't get a lot of, you know, publicity,

728
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Speaker 7: I'd say, is Trey Gola Collard. He's a safety in

729
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 7: his second year. Came from Southern Utah. He was at

730
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Speaker 7: University of Mary before then. But he is an extremely

731
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Speaker 7: consistent player playing the boundary safety position. He's put in

732
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Speaker 7: a lot of conflict situations but always plays fast and physical.

733
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Speaker 7: But he's an incredible teammate and an incredible human being.

734
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Speaker 7: Similar to what makes Jake great beyond the physical gifts

735
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,439
Speaker 7: is his his intentionality and want to become the best

736
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 7: version of himself. And you see the same thing in

737
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 7: Trey and a number of our other players. But to

738
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Speaker 7: single one out especially that doesn't get a lot of love.

739
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Speaker 1: I'd say Trey, all right, I see where John Daniel

740
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 1: is so that I know the mic is in.

741
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Speaker 3: The back of the room, and we're got to Elijah.

742
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Speaker 1: Okay, sorry, what was your name?

743
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Speaker 8: I didn't get it?

744
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 1: You're Zach grant Is.

745
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Speaker 8: Two questions. First off, other than because Xavier is not

746
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 8: a football school, the Xavier doesn't have football, but I

747
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 8: say that's our biggest rival, like in basketball, but in football,

748
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Speaker 8: who would you say when I consider like, who do

749
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,720
Speaker 8: you really get pumped up to play against? Because obviously

750
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Speaker 8: we don't play Louisville as much as we used to

751
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,839
Speaker 8: or Pitt. I mean I consider UCF, like when we

752
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 8: play UCF, I get pretty pumped up, or maybe Houston.

753
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Speaker 8: What other schools do you get pumped up to play against?

754
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Speaker 8: In the players? And then secondly, do you think uc

755
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 8: could ever be on the level of competitiveness is like

756
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Speaker 8: a Big ten school like Ohio State or Michigan, Because

757
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Speaker 8: I mean you look at now compared to ten years ago.

758
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 8: I mean we're in the Big twelve or you know,

759
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 8: our facilities are much nicer. So do you think that

760
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Speaker 8: could ever be a possibility in the future.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, First question number one for us, it's still Miami.

762
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,720
Speaker 7: You know, we don't play them this year, but when

763
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 7: we play them, I thought you guys probably saw it

764
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 7: last year. Our team was incredibly enthused both before the game,

765
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Speaker 7: going into it, during the game, and after the game

766
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Speaker 7: with the celebration within conference. I'd say UCF or Iowa State,

767
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:49,919
Speaker 7: Iowa State, there's a lot of similarities in the way

768
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 7: we do things. We're gonna play them again next year.

769
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Speaker 7: It'll be four straight years. I don't think we play

770
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Speaker 7: UCF next year, but that rivalry, despite not being me

771
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 7: being here when we're in the in the AAC, I've

772
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Speaker 7: still felt that since I since I got here, and

773
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Speaker 7: I think that will continue. So i'd say those three

774
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 7: in my book, And then question number two, I absolutely

775
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 7: think we can get there.

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00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 3: That's not gonna happen overnight.

777
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 7: To me. We need to continually climb the ladder and

778
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 7: you know, meet every ring of that ladder in terms

779
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 7: of like meeting the next goal in front of us,

780
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 7: then the next goal and the next goal, and uh,

781
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 7: you know, I think we have everything available here to

782
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 7: do it.

783
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 3: We're gonna have to, you know, harness the.

784
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 7: Power of the city and you know, leverage those relationships

785
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 7: with big businesses as we you know, increase our just

786
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 7: financial capacity to meet, uh, the competition level at that

787
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 7: level in terms of you know, nil and revenue share.

788
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 7: But I think we have everything in front of us

789
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 7: and every resource possible to eventually reach that goal. We

790
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 7: just gotta it doesn't happen overnight. We got to hit

791
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Speaker 7: every ring of that ladder.

792
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Speaker 4: First, Brian, how many hours a week do you think

793
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Speaker 4: you spend watching video and what do you do in

794
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Speaker 4: the other hours that you're not watching video?

795
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Speaker 7: Yeah, well those four hours, you know, in my role,

796
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Speaker 7: especially depending on the time of year, I don't get

797
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 7: to watch as much as I want to, like when

798
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Speaker 7: you when I say that, I would like to do

799
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 7: it like twenty four hours a day. But I'm blessed

800
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,879
Speaker 7: with an incredible staff that I'm able to work with,

801
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 7: and Carter Wilson doing scouting for high school, Jack Griffith

802
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 7: doing scouting for the portal, Cassimmitson and Taiji Leitch and

803
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 7: Peter Abrams doing a lot of communicating and recruiting and

804
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:55,359
Speaker 7: then Caroline Tart doing our like visit setup. A lot

805
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 7: of people in my role that I talk to across

806
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,040
Speaker 7: the country aren't as fortunate as I am where I

807
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 7: truly trust those people to do what they do and

808
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 7: they do it at as high of a level as

809
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 7: anybody out there. That frees me up to not worry

810
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:14,399
Speaker 7: that I'm not uncovering the unheralded player from an hour

811
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 7: up the road. I know Carter is already doing that,

812
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 7: you know what I mean. So in terms of hours,

813
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 7: I probably try to make sure I'm watching film for

814
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 7: three or four hours a day and the rest of

815
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 7: the time, there's different conversations with our coaches. The communication

816
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 7: with them has to be on point for every specific

817
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 7: recruiting situation. You know, agents are becoming a big thing

818
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 7: in college football now. We talk to them a lot

819
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 7: to gather information more than anything that the name of

820
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 7: the game and knowing how the market's trending and all

821
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 7: that for what it will cost for positions and different

822
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 7: things like just being on the phone and letting them

823
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 7: talk and then you know, different meetings according to you know,

824
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 7: what our strategy is in terms of revenue share stuff,

825
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 7: and like different stuff like that. That's how I kind

826
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 7: of wrap it up. And then part of it's just

827
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,280
Speaker 7: sitting down and making sure I'm prepared for different meetings

828
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 7: and trying to lead my team in the best way

829
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 7: I can. Like, I feel like I have six people

830
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 7: that operate at such a high level. As long as

831
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 7: I can give them the correct direction and way to go,

832
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 7: good things will happen. So I try to be as

833
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 7: intentional as I can about that. And then in my

834
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 7: free time, I want to spend as much time as

835
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Speaker 7: I can with my wife and my six month old

836
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 7: and my dog.

837
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Speaker 3: Winning.

838
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: So don't neglect winning what recruiting has done this time

839
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: of year where the coaches are involved, Are you meeting

840
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 1: with them and showing them people during this time of

841
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:46,240
Speaker 1: the season.

842
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:47,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

843
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 7: Right now in season, every Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday morning,

844
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 7: we spend thirty minutes with the offense and the defense

845
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 7: presenting recruits. It might be guys we've watched before, it

846
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 7: might be our current commits. We see their role being

847
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,760
Speaker 7: information and knowledge is power, so we want them to

848
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 7: be exposed to everything we're seeing and every critical player that.

849
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 3: Needs to get in front of them.

850
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 7: That's the time to do it, and then I have

851
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 7: a little bit more time with coach sat during position meetings.

852
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 7: When the coaches are in position meetings, we can sit

853
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 7: down together and you know, strategize on our roster and

854
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:23,800
Speaker 7: and different recruits that he needs to see.

855
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 1: What impact is the shake Lee indoor practice facility having.

856
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:32,919
Speaker 7: Oh, it's been tremendous from a recruiting standpoint. I think

857
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 7: it just ties everything together for the recruits. We became

858
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 7: a big twelve team, we've started winning, and now they

859
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 7: see the facility, and some that have come before and

860
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 7: didn't now they're like, Okay, this legitimizes everything. It checks

861
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 7: every box that Cincinnati's legitimately in the in the ballgame.

862
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 7: Being a real power for team. From the team perspective,

863
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 7: I think it's even more critical as much of a

864
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 7: recruiting advantage it is our players rehab, I call it prehab,

865
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 7: that's probably not the right word, but like training their

866
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 7: bodies to not get hurt ahead of time, like what

867
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 7: Aaron Himmler does and what Nico palace EDDI do down

868
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 7: there in our training room, in our weight room. Like

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Speaker 7: you talk about the elite of the elite, they're as

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Speaker 7: good as it gets. So we have so many resources.

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Speaker 7: I think I read an article this came out like

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Speaker 7: six years ago, so the numbers might be a little

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Speaker 7: different now. But James Harrison, the Steelers ed rusher, he

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Speaker 7: used to spend I think it was like five hundred

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Speaker 7: thousand dollars every off season doing different modalities to.

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Speaker 3: Get his body right.

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Speaker 7: We have every single thing he used and more in

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Speaker 7: our facility. And when you tell that to recruits, it's like,

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Speaker 7: we're going to invest in you in your personal development,

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Speaker 7: your football development. We're going to invest in you in

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Speaker 7: rev share and nil. But you're gonna have every resource

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Speaker 7: right at the tips of your fingers in an extremely

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Speaker 7: functionalit building. It's a compelling deal for them and it

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Speaker 7: really really helps.

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Speaker 1: That's a great nugget because I remember James Harrison spent

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Speaker 1: one year with the Bengals, okay, and I remember all

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Speaker 1: the stuff he was doing for that freakish physique that

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Speaker 1: he had back then. Zach, this has been a lot

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Speaker 1: of fun. Always appreciate your time. Congratulations on the job

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Speaker 1: you and your staff along with the coaching staff, have

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Speaker 1: done and putting together the roster of the twenty second

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Speaker 1: ranked team in the country with a chance to play

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Speaker 1: for a big twelve championship in a few weeks.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. It's a lot of work still to be done.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's hear it for Zach Graft that is

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Speaker 1: just about going to do it for our show tonight.

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Speaker 1: Thanks to Joe Strecker, our on site engineer. Thanks to

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Speaker 1: Joe Waddell back in the studio, we've got stuff to

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Speaker 1: give away for the folks who are here at the

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Speaker 1: original Montgomery in you've been listening to the Scott Centerfield

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Speaker 1: Radio Show on seven hundred WLW