1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: It's time for the latest on the madness of March. 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: Here's Hall of Fame college basketball writer for The Sporting 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: News and Fox Sports lead bracketologist Mike Decorsi, brought to 4 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: you by Northwest Handling Systems. From forklifts to pellet racks, 5 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 1: conveyors to loading duck equipment, we sell, rent and service 6 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 1: all your warehousing needs. Request a quote today at NWHS 7 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: dot com or give us a call at four two 8 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: five two five five zero five hundred. Now with Mike 9 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: de Corsi, here's SAFTI and. 10 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 2: Dick Hey, Welcome back Sports Radio ninety three point three 11 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 2: KJRFM Softian Dick without the soft one Today. Hubrey love 12 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 2: Millin is in in time to talk a little college 13 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 2: basketball with our yearly guest, our hall of famer from 14 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 2: The Sporting News, Lead Sports Fox Sports Bracketologists, brought to 15 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 2: you by Northwest Handling Systems. 16 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 3: Our friend Mike Decorsi is back. Mike, How are you? 17 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 4: I am great? Dick? How are you? 18 00:00:57,920 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 2: I'm great? It is great to talk to you. This 19 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 2: is episode one of eights. We'll talk to you each 20 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 2: week throughout the conference tournaments and the NCAA Tournament, and 21 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 2: we'll wrap it up with the with the Final four, Mike, 22 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 2: and you know, we got to see something fun this 23 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 2: weekend that I don't know was unprecedented or not, but 24 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 2: it's certainly nothing I can remember. You talk about a 25 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 2: final four in late February. That's what we got with 26 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 2: Houston and Arizona and Michigan and Duke. So what did 27 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 2: you take away from those two big blockbuster games we 28 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 2: had this weekend. 29 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 4: Well, it's interesting that you that you pose it that way, 30 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 4: because one of the fascinating things about the Michigan Duke 31 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 4: game for me was trying to figure out what it 32 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 4: meant because both of those teams will would have to 33 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 4: do basically the opposite of who they are. They're not 34 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 4: gonna lose a bunch of games, so they're gonna be 35 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 4: one seeds. They're both tremendous and so but neither does 36 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 4: number one overall seed mean anything. When one team wants 37 00:01:58,160 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 4: to be in the East the other team wants to 38 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 4: be in the with it really doesn't mean much, right, 39 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 4: And so it didn't mean that number one in the polls. 40 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 4: I have told people for decades I cover college basketball 41 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 4: for a living and never look at the polls. I 42 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 4: don't care what happens in those So I'm trying to 43 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 4: figure out what it means, and what it meant in 44 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 4: the end was I had actually had a conversation with 45 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 4: the Duke staffer last week for a show that I 46 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 4: do on FS one called Big Time Hoops, and they 47 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 4: were talking about encouraging their perimeter players to be more 48 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 4: aggressive while still maintaining high quality of shot, but me 49 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 4: more aggressive as perimeter shooters because they player like Caleb 50 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 4: Foster wasn't doing that enough, even though he shoots a 51 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 4: very high percentage. And then he came out and busted 52 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 4: a couple right in the first half. So they're listening. 53 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 4: So you saw that on the one side, and on 54 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 4: the other side, Michigan realized this is exactly not what 55 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,079 Speaker 4: to do if we play in another big game or 56 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 4: when we play in another big game, because their front 57 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 4: performance was so stagnant and so antithetical to who they've 58 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 4: been most of this year, and I think they learned 59 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 4: that that the game had gotten a little easy for 60 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 4: them even against high level Big ten opponents. They were 61 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 4: just toying with them, and it showed when they played 62 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 4: that do came okay, like this is going to be 63 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 4: hard this is not go. If we win this thing, 64 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 4: it's going to be hard. 65 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 5: Mike. 66 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 6: When you talk about how there's some question to how 67 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 6: much it means, I guess you know, we've recently had 68 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 6: this discussion about college football and how many teams should 69 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 6: be in the college football playoff, and for the top teams, 70 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 6: you kind of lessen the impact of these games. I mean, 71 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 6: when I was in college, the NCAA tournament had thirty 72 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 6: two teams, and of course there were sixteen before that 73 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 6: and all. But I mean, do you have a thought 74 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 6: about that about the right number. Certainly you haven't thought 75 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 6: about college basketball, but as college football tries to find 76 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 6: the you know, thread the needle, find the optimum number, 77 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 6: do you have any thoughts in those regards? 78 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 4: Well, I, in the in the basketball tournament, I have 79 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 4: been very staunch about not further expanding. I was kind 80 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 4: of the way I ultimately went with the with the 81 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 4: sixty eight which happened in twenty ten, was I, I 82 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,799 Speaker 4: know what the horror was on the other side, which 83 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 4: was in order at that point in order to make 84 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 4: the money they had been making from CBS, which at 85 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,119 Speaker 4: that point didn't have a bunch of money in the bank. 86 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 4: I guess in the piggy bank. And so they didn't 87 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 4: think they could write the seven hundred million dollars a 88 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 4: year check. And ESPN said, Okay, we'll do that if 89 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 4: you give us ninety six. And I'm like, no, nobody 90 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 4: wanted that. And so Turner comes along and says, okay, 91 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 4: we'll go halfers or whatever the actual arrangement is, and 92 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 4: ultimately they decided to go to sixty eight in that 93 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 4: in that negotiation, and I'm like, okay, so four more 94 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 4: teams doesn't bother me, and but let's not go beyond that. 95 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 4: And esaa's now Charlie Baker is pushing for more, and 96 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 4: I invite Charlie, and I'm serious about this, come sit 97 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 4: with me while I do my brackets and see what 98 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 4: is on the other side of the sixty eighth line 99 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 4: and try to justify to me it's bad. The expansion 100 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 4: it's bad. And so that's my feeling about that. And Hugh, 101 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 4: I think that the I like the twelve, I could 102 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 4: probably live with sixteen. I don't see any reason at 103 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 4: all for twenty four. There aren't twenty four teams that 104 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 4: could win it. There aren't twenty four teams that could 105 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 4: even reach the final four. So why bother did? 106 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 2: Do you think we're gonna get more of these big 107 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 2: non conference matchups like we did with Michigan and Duke 108 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 2: in late February. I remember I used to back in 109 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 2: the day, we'd get like Gonzaga playing Memphis or playing 110 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 2: Louisville in February, but we weren't. We weren't getting the 111 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 2: power We weren't getting the Power four schools against the 112 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 2: Power four schools like we did in Michigan and Duke. 113 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 2: Is this gonna be something that the conference can missioners 114 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 2: are going to try to schedule for eyeball purposes and 115 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 2: maybe even in a neutral site like we had in 116 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 2: DC this weekend. 117 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 4: What's interesting about is I think Duke did this in 118 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 4: reaction to the fact that their conference, once once the 119 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 4: gold standard of college basketball, the ACC has really declined 120 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 4: and now it's bounced back a fair amount that last 121 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 4: year it was a disaster, right, I mean, they should 122 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 4: have had they should have I don't know how many 123 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 4: ultimately got four bids they think, and they should have 124 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 4: only had three. And this year they're probably going to 125 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 4: get eight, maybe at the outside nine and so it's better, 126 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,919 Speaker 4: but it's they're still not getting the level of competition 127 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 4: that they need to get sharp, and that's why Michigan 128 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 4: was perfectly timed for them, and it was the perfect 129 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 4: choice of opponent because Michigan had been so good. But 130 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 4: I think I know ESPN has come out and say 131 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 4: they want more of these. It had always been television driven, 132 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 4: and as CBS got more removed from regular season college basketball, 133 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 4: even though there's still the home of the tournament, they're 134 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 4: not as involved in regular season college basketball as they 135 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 4: once were. They much rather show golf, and so as 136 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 4: a result, these games started waned and it just was 137 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 4: basically play your conference. Gonzaga did it for the same 138 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 4: reason the Duke had changed to this. Yeah, they get 139 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 4: really good tests when they play Saint Mary's and this 140 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 4: year with Santa Clara and when they had BYU, they 141 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 4: would get them from that, but it just weren't common enough. 142 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 4: So playing when Memphis was really good, playing them in 143 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 4: February was good for the zag just to remind them 144 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 4: what's out there in March. And so I think that 145 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 4: it's a little bit different. In the major conferences, there 146 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 4: really would just be an eyeball thing, because like if 147 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 4: you're in the Big twelve or the Big ten. You 148 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 4: don't need to be reminded what's out there. It might 149 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 4: help you to freshen yourself a little bit, to maybe 150 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 4: see things through against an opponent that hasn't seen a 151 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 4: lot of you, but it's not like you need to test. 152 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 6: Right, Mike DECURSI with us and Mike, Well, we're talking 153 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 6: about those those two big games we discussed. I think 154 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 6: UCLA coming from twenty three points down against number ten 155 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 6: Illinois quite a week in Brentwood with Mick Cronan and 156 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 6: everything that transpired there at the very least surly possibly unprofessional. 157 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 6: What was your take on that whole incident and then 158 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 6: how it may have impacted the Bruins this weekend and 159 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 6: moving forward. 160 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 4: Well, let me preface this by saying that I have 161 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 4: known Mick for thirty years and like him a lot. 162 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 4: And I mean he was on the staff at Cincinnati 163 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 4: when I came in from Memphis to cover the Bearcats 164 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 4: for four years, and so I know him as well 165 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 4: as I know just about any coach in college basketball. 166 00:08:56,679 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 4: And I didn't like what he did with the ejecting 167 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 4: his own player. I thought it would have been sufficient 168 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 4: to just say you know he misinterpreted the play, and 169 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 4: what had happened four or five days earlier was that 170 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 4: there had been a really seriously untoward play in Providence 171 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 4: versus Saint John's, which led to a three game suspension 172 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 4: for the player who inflicted that foul on a drive 173 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 4: on a breakaway, and it happened to Saint John's, a 174 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 4: player from Saint John's who happened to be coached by 175 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 4: Rick Patino, who happens to be a mentor of Mix, 176 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 4: and I think that probably impacted how he viewed the situation. 177 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 4: But even in that, if he was mad and he 178 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 4: thought it was flagrant beyond or dirty or whatever, he 179 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 4: should have just pointed to the end of the bench 180 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 4: and said, you know, you're done and we'll see at 181 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 4: the end of the night. He didn't need to have 182 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 4: him taken out of the game. I think I think 183 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 4: he was frustrated by the performance, and rightfully so. The 184 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 4: performance was abysmal at Michigan State, way below even This 185 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 4: is not a great team. By It's a much better 186 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 4: team than they showed in that game, and I think 187 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,199 Speaker 4: he was frustrated by that and that that played into it. 188 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 4: I didn't have a huge problem with the reporter exchange, 189 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 4: because I've been on the other end of those, and 190 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 4: I mean some of the people that did it to me. 191 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 4: One of the persons that did it to me, Chuck 192 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:21,319 Speaker 4: Tanner a long time ago, a manager for the Pirates, 193 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 4: is considered to be like the nicest person who's ever 194 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 4: worn a baseball uniform, and and it's right he is. 195 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 4: It was, and so I didn't necessarily have a problem 196 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 4: with mixed exchange there, but I didn't think he handled 197 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 4: the player right. I was glad he apologized, and I 198 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 4: think that that probably helped them get invigorated when they 199 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 4: got behind, and I think they were they were willing 200 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 4: to play for each other and play for him, and 201 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:50,319 Speaker 4: that that victory might be the difference in them getting 202 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 4: into the NC. 203 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 2: Double As our friends in Northwest Handling System brings you, 204 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 2: Mike the COURSEI this is episode one of eight throughout 205 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 2: the college basketball March Madness NWHS dot com Crown fok lists, 206 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 2: palette racking, loading doc equipment request a quote at NWHS 207 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 2: dot com. Mike, we talked about the Michigan duke side 208 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 2: of that big doubleheader. 209 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 3: How about Arizona. 210 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 2: Here's an unreal Wildcat stat You may or may not 211 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 2: have seen this. Arizona now has three wins this season 212 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 2: against top five teams when they hit three or fewer 213 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 2: three pointers. The rest of college basketball in the last 214 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 2: five years has two. So Arizona has done it three 215 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 2: times in one year. College basketball has done it twice 216 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:42,439 Speaker 2: in the last five years. So can Arizona win a 217 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 2: title in this day and age without hitting three pointers? 218 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 4: It's pretty rare they are there. I didn't even know 219 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 4: I was out. I'll confess this to you. I just 220 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 4: looked this up. They are three hundred and sixty third 221 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 4: in terms of the number of their field goal attempts 222 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:00,959 Speaker 4: that are three pointers. They just don't even know there 223 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 4: were three hundred and sixty three teams. 224 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 5: I thought it was sixty one. 225 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:10,119 Speaker 4: That tells you a lot, right, It is pretty uncommon 226 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 4: for you to win it while being that inactive from 227 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 4: three point range. At UCLA, I remember in ninety five 228 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 4: and so like we're going thirty thirty one years back, 229 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 4: hit four total three pointers at the Final Four with 230 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 4: the O'Bannon brothers and one. They had two on Saturday 231 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 4: and two on Monday night. And that's the last time 232 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 4: I can remember anything like that happening. So it is 233 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 4: a challenge, and I think their best version of this 234 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 4: team has Braden Burry's making more than that, making more, 235 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 4: you know, making more than the number that you just 236 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 4: cited just himself, he should be able to do that, 237 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 4: and then adding in Jayden Bradley, who's a thirty seven 238 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 4: per cent shooter, should be able to get more. Anthony 239 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 4: del Orso was just an absolutely fabulous shooter in the past, 240 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 4: a guy that teams feared when he would get the 241 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 4: ball deep. A year ago shot forty one percent. He's 242 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 4: off this year, only shooting thirty two. And that's a 243 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 4: problem because it limits the like, why is he on 244 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 4: the floor kind of deal, Like we put him out 245 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 4: there because he makes shots, and he's pretty dynamic and 246 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 4: can guard a little bit, but he's really out there 247 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 4: to make shots and those aren't dropping this year and 248 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 4: it is having an impact. But he ever gets it 249 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 4: back and all of a sudden they become even more 250 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 4: dangerous as a team, and they. 251 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 6: Are well, I'm sure that there's many basketball purists that are, 252 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 6: you know, relishing the idea of trying to get the 253 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 6: ball into the paint close to the rim and also 254 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 6: knock down the jumper from the elbow, right, So I 255 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 6: guess that's a throwback in some circum in some sense, right, 256 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 6: But you know which leads me to my question for you, Mike. 257 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:58,559 Speaker 6: This is episode one of your twenty twenty six series. 258 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 6: Here kind of, let's say, yell of the helicopter rather 259 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 6: up up a few thousand feet and just kind of 260 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 6: look down on college basketball. Well, with all the changes 261 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 6: in college sports, with the nil with the transferring, what 262 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 6: have you give us your view, your vision of the 263 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 6: state of the union that's kind of been up as well, 264 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 6: the state of human union of college basketball. 265 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 4: It seems like this has been true for a while now. 266 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 4: The relative attractiveness or the relative competitive level of the 267 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 4: sport is dependent on the freshmen, because if they're terrific, 268 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 4: then it makes it invigorates the competition to another level. 269 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 4: But I think we might be a little less dependent 270 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 4: on that than we used to be because the flood 271 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 4: of players who were leaving because they couldn't make any 272 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 4: money in college or not enough, they would go and 273 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 4: play in the GLI for thirty eight grand People talk 274 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 4: about all this cheating that was happening in college hoops 275 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 4: in the past, right, why were literally scores of players 276 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 4: leaving to go make thirty grand in the G League 277 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 4: if so much money was flowing under the table the players, 278 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 4: because they were leaving every school in America to go 279 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 4: to take their shot at the NBA when a lot 280 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 4: or most of them weren't ready for the NBA. But 281 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 4: it was just like, I got to go make some 282 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 4: money play in this game, so let's go. And now 283 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 4: that there's a significant amount of money to be paid 284 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 4: to the players to stay, you got guys suing to 285 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 4: get back. There are multiple players now trying to sue 286 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 4: or successfully suing to get more eligibility. And you know, 287 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 4: is the five year to five years to play four? 288 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 4: Is that going to hold up? And all this stuff 289 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 4: and that, so that has invigorated the competition as well. 290 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 4: This is the deepest freshman class, I believe since nineteen 291 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 4: seventy nine. I wrote about this a week ago when 292 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 4: seventy nine had Ralph Sampson, Isaiah Thomas, James Worthy, and 293 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 4: Dominique Wilkins, all Hall of famers, and then a huge 294 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 4: army of terrific players behind that. And and we've had 295 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 4: some really good groups since the ninety five with KG 296 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 4: and Paul Pierce and uh and uh and as well 297 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 4: as the two Carolina guys Vince Carter Anton Jamison Uh 298 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 4: and then eight we had Kevin Love and Derek Derreck 299 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 4: Rose and some others OJ Mayo. But this is so, 300 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 4: this is such a deep freshman class. You've got just 301 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 4: I believe this. On the Sporting News All America Team, 302 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 4: we will have the highest percentage of freshmen in our 303 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 4: history on on the All America Team. And we have. 304 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 4: We were we were ahead of the curve in terms 305 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 4: of naming freshmen to our All America Team. It was 306 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 4: pretty rare before Carmelo Anthony came along and we put 307 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 4: him on our first team and no one else did. 308 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 4: It's fairly common now, but we've never had this number. 309 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 4: I suspect we could have a third of our fifteen 310 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 4: players be freshmen. 311 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 5: Wow. 312 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 2: Do you think all of them become NBA players next year? 313 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 2: I mean the NBA certainly hope. So that's why we 314 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 2: have all this tanking problem in the NBA right now, 315 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,640 Speaker 2: because there's all these players that they want, But are 316 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,880 Speaker 2: they going to get burned? I mean, are maybe three 317 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,360 Speaker 2: four five of the top ten freshmen going to stay 318 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 2: in school next year because of the money they can make. 319 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 4: So I think when you get to that level, a 320 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 4: top ten in the NBA, in the NBA, even the lottery, 321 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 4: I think the question is more players that are because 322 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 4: of the abundance of talent in this class in terms 323 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 4: of how much of the of the top ten to 324 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 4: top fifteen, top twenty they will consume. I think that 325 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 4: that more upper classmen that have the option might stick around. 326 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 4: I think a guy like Trey McKinney at Michigan, who's 327 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 4: until Saturday. If you watch only Sat, believe me he's great, 328 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 4: but he was. He really struggled on Saturday against Duke. 329 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:08,199 Speaker 4: But he's a kind of guy that would probably be 330 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 4: the thirteenth or fourteenth freshman to go this year. Why 331 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 4: not stick around? Next year's class not as good, right, 332 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 4: and you can be top ten. I think there will 333 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 4: be a few of those, but for the most part, 334 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 4: all these great freshmen that we're seeing, they'll take up. 335 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 4: I've seen projections of thirteen of the top sixteen players 336 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 4: in the draft being college freshman, and that wouldn't surprise 337 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 4: me at all. 338 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 2: Before I let you go, Mike, I remember having a 339 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 2: conversation with Softy about three months ago, and we were 340 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 2: talking about, you know, scheduling, you know for the college 341 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 2: basketball season. 342 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 3: Where like, hey, we got to it's gonna be really cool. 343 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 2: We hope we get Mike de Corsi back because we're 344 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 2: going to be able to talk about a college basketball 345 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 2: team that is right, if not on the bubble, already 346 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:57,199 Speaker 2: in the NCAA tournament in the University of Washington. That 347 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:00,880 Speaker 2: was our conversation we had off maybe on the air 348 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 2: in like November. And here we are, and the University 349 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 2: of Washington is basically exactly where they've. 350 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 3: Been most of the last ten years. 351 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 2: What do you make of what's happened here on Mottlake 352 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 2: with a pretty talented yet very very injured basketball team 353 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 2: this year with Danny sprinkling year two. 354 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,679 Speaker 4: The injuries have obviously had a huge impact on what 355 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 4: they've been able to accomplish. And it's really a shame 356 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 4: when you have a great player like Hanna Steinbach there 357 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 4: and he's been very productive and very energized, and you'd 358 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 4: think that that would have done it more, that they 359 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 4: would be a better team than they've been. But unfortunately, 360 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 4: with all the injuries, it's been hard to be have 361 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 4: great continuity. I mean you've got out of your first 362 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 4: eight scorers, I think there's three that have played twenty 363 00:19:56,680 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 4: seven games. It's just impossible to nownavigate that. You can try, 364 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 4: but I mean and and I don't know what it 365 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:08,120 Speaker 4: would be. I mean, like they're like the Maryland game 366 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:11,479 Speaker 4: on Saturday, they should have won the game with what 367 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 4: they had out. 368 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 3: There, and they've had a few of those. 369 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:14,640 Speaker 4: You're disappointed they've. 370 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 2: Got three Their last three losses are four to three 371 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 2: and four. 372 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, that those there's some of those games you'd think, 373 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 4: especially a team like Maryland not a great team. And 374 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 4: I know I believe that one was on the road. Uh, 375 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 4: that's one you'd feel like, boy, you had a chance 376 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 4: there and you let it get away. I don't think 377 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 4: it would change the the the nature of this season 378 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 4: if you get it, but you'd feel better if you had. 379 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 4: But it's there's just very few teams that have sustained 380 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 4: the degree of injury that this team has had. And 381 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 4: you know, I think the future, I think the future 382 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 4: would say again, I mean, he's been hurt too, JJ Mandiquett, 383 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 4: But a couple more JJ Mandiquitts would be a good 384 00:20:56,560 --> 00:21:00,640 Speaker 4: thing to have a few more friends like I mean 385 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 4: bringing Hanness because he's a great talent and he's obviously 386 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 4: almost certain to go after this year to the NBA. 387 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 4: Of course you bring him in. But a few more 388 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 4: Zooms and a few more JJ's guys like that that 389 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 4: you're going to have around for a little while. I 390 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 4: think that that would be a helpful thing because it 391 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 4: obviously depends on the patience level of your fan base 392 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 4: and your administration. But I still believe that to build 393 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 4: a successful program, you need to have guys that are 394 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 4: going to be there for a while. 395 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 2: Well, Mike, it is so great to have you back, 396 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 2: and by the fact, we won't be talking about the 397 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 2: Huskies much and down the stretch, but you know what, 398 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 2: we're used to that because every year we've had you, 399 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 2: we really haven't talked about the Huskies. 400 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 3: Stress. So Mike will talk to you next week. Thanks 401 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 3: so much, Thanks guys, Becky, thanks Mike, Mike. 402 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 2: The course you brought to you by our friends at 403 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 2: Northwest Handling Systems. More of you coming up next on 404 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:58,360 Speaker 2: ninety three point three KJRFM. 405 00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 7: From the R and R Foundation Specialists Broadcast Studio. Now 406 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 7: back to SOFTI and Dick on your Home for the Huskies. 407 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 7: Kracking and the twelfth Man Sports Radio ninety three point 408 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 7: three kJ R FM. 409 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 2: Great stuff from Mike Decorsi. He's gonna be fun to 410 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 2: talk to on a weekly basis. Yes, it's unfortunate that 411 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 2: we won't. 412 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 3: Be talking Husky basketball in March the way we thought 413 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 3: we would or hope we would. 414 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 2: But still a lot of great college basketball to talk 415 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 2: about with Mike de Corsi each and every week. Chrisy 416 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 2: Can joined us earlier today, John Wilner at five o'clock today, 417 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 2: and Everett Fits Hugh, where did the voice of the Kraken. 418 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 3: Watch the Big Game yesterday? And his thoughts on that 419 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 3: that's coming up at six o'clock. But Hugh, you know, 420 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 3: we've gone an hour and a half. We haven't talked about. 421 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 2: There are are Super Bowl champion Seahawks, so we should probably. 422 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 3: I mean, there is a quota right on the radio station. 423 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:01,959 Speaker 2: We do have to reach our Seahawks quota. I mean, nobody, 424 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 2: it's just just kind of, you know, brought up in 425 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 2: my mind. Nobody said I have to talk about the Seahawks. 426 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,199 Speaker 2: But I think that's probably fair. And I mean the 427 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 2: two big stories and we'll touch on them both in 428 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 2: this show. Ken Walker and Jackson Smith and Jigmin. It 429 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 2: all starts with money, right and and that is the 430 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 2: I heard Colin Coward talking about it this morning that 431 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 2: it is the yearly refrain. It is the yearly refrain 432 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 2: of the Super Bowl winner that when you win a 433 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 2: Super Bowl, you eventually and sometimes in short order, have 434 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 2: to reward the guys financially for winning the Super Bowl. 435 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 2: And we've got one guy that's up now, We've got 436 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 2: one guy that's going to be up in a year. 437 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 2: And let's start with the guy that's that's up right now, 438 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:51,199 Speaker 2: Ken Walker and Javonte Williams from the Cowboys, who I 439 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,679 Speaker 2: never believed was as. 440 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 3: Good a running back as Ken Walker is. 441 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 2: But if you just look at what have you done 442 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:03,439 Speaker 2: for me lately, there's no question Javonte Williams had a 443 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 2: better season this year for the Cowboys than Ken Walker 444 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 2: had for the Seahawks. I mean, just across the board, statistically, 445 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 2: it's not even close. But I think Ken's representatives would say, well, yeah, 446 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:20,640 Speaker 2: Javonte got the workload all year that you only gave 447 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 2: my client in the last. 448 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 3: Month of the season. So maybe let's just start there. 449 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 2: How would you compare those those running backs and those 450 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 2: running backs situations. 451 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 3: In those cities. 452 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, well what ages, Javonte Williams. 453 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 2: I'm reading age twenty five years of age, So I 454 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 2: mean I think it is a cop the three years, 455 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 2: twenty four million dollars. 456 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, and you know, I think one thing K nine. 457 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 6: You know, it had been mentioned the Shawn Alexander contract 458 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,919 Speaker 6: after his two thousand and five season. Well, in that 459 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 6: particular year, he was going to be twenty nine going 460 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 6: into August thirt of two thousand and six, so basically 461 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 6: training camp of the year he signed, he turned twenty nine, 462 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:10,679 Speaker 6: whereas as Canine is gonna turn twenty six on October 463 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 6: twentieth of this year. Moreover, the attempts Shawn Alexander going 464 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 6: into that contract, he had eighteen hundred and twelve attempts, 465 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 6: whereas Canine only has nine oh one, obviously less than half. 466 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 6: And for what it's worth, Canine in college had four 467 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 6: hundred and eighty carries and Shawn Alexander at Alabama had 468 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 6: seven und twenty seven. So there's a lot less load 469 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,640 Speaker 6: and rigor and hits in mileage and age on that body. 470 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 6: So I you know, I said to Softie on Friday, 471 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 6: I think he'll he'll get resigned. And then the next day, Saturday, 472 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 6: two days ago, I was like, why did I say that? Like, 473 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 6: he's probably gonna go somewhere else, you know, somebody's gonna 474 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 6: dangle some money. 475 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 5: So color meat completely in. 476 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 6: The dark and you know, totally unaware of what's going 477 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 6: to happen in this I could, I could make very 478 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 6: strong arguments either way, and Dick real quick just looking 479 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,919 Speaker 6: at some other guys at the same age. So, so 480 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 6: what we're really interested in is Canine. We know that 481 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 6: he's likely to get to sign a deal that the 482 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 6: Seattle can get out of after a couple of years, right, 483 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 6: two years, think. 484 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:26,239 Speaker 5: Two years, you know. 485 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 6: And so Christian McCaffrey aged twenty six, remember now K 486 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 6: nine will be twenty six. Christan McCaffrey had eighteen hundred 487 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 6: and eighty yards from scrimmage. Then the next year, age 488 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 6: twenty seven, he had two thy and twenty three age 489 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 6: twenty eight, he was eighteen fifty Saquon Barkley. That drew 490 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 6: a lot of news in the NFL. His contract year, 491 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 6: he was twenty seven going into the Eagles, right, so 492 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 6: essentially a year older. He had the two turing fifteen 493 00:26:55,840 --> 00:27:00,040 Speaker 6: scrimmage yard year in twenty twenty four and then and 494 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,880 Speaker 6: last year followed it up with nineteen eighty, of which 495 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 6: over fifteen hundred were rushed, so I think that was 496 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,159 Speaker 6: a good move. Derrick Henry at age twenty six he 497 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 6: had two thousand yards rushing and a little over that 498 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 6: in scrimmage. Then at twenty seven he fell to nine 499 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 6: thirty seven yards rushing. He cranked it back up to 500 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 6: age twenty eight, he was at nineteen hundred. Aged twenty nine, 501 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 6: he was at fourteen hundred, so that was a good 502 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 6: Aaron Jones aged twenty six, fourteen and fifty nine yards 503 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 6: from scrimmage, but then he really dropped off, had eight 504 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,439 Speaker 6: hundred and injuries are part of this. He popped it 505 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,679 Speaker 6: back up to eleven twenty one, so that would be 506 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 6: a cautionary tale. Jonathan Taylor at age twenty six was 507 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,679 Speaker 6: just last year he had eighteen hundred and twenty yards. 508 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:57,199 Speaker 6: Alvin Kamara, you know he he had He kind of 509 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 6: maintained stable, as did Nick check Job. I'm not to 510 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 6: go all through these. Ezekiel Elliott, I'll just finish with him. 511 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 6: Ezekiel Elliott at age twenty six had twelve hundred and 512 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 6: eighty nine yards from scrimmage. Then it dropped to nine 513 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 6: sixty eight, then nine to fifty five, and then five eighty. 514 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 6: You know, so the end of that contract was, you know, 515 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:18,400 Speaker 6: like he fell off. 516 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 5: So I think that. 517 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 6: Most of these guys, when you look at him, you say, 518 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 6: age twenty six and twenty seven, K nine should be fine. 519 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,439 Speaker 6: There's like really strong evidence that he'll be fine for 520 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 6: the first two years. There's middling evidence about the the 521 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,400 Speaker 6: third year, which would be K nine at age twenty eight, 522 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 6: and then you know that fourth year, you could it's 523 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 6: more likely than not that he will have a significant 524 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 6: decline if you haven't already parted ways with them. So 525 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 6: I really kind of feel like this is absolutely a 526 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 6: two year deal. You know, most likely a three year deal, 527 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 6: which you're probably okay, and then fourth year is anybody's 528 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 6: gets get You got to be able to get out 529 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 6: of your four so they can do that. 530 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 5: I think they're gonna be on solid ground. 531 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 2: Now there is a word that we haven't heard in 532 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 2: Seattle since Steve Hutchinson, and that's transition. The transition tag. 533 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 2: This to me seems if you don't want to commit 534 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 2: to Ken Walker longer than a year, but you want 535 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 2: an insurance policy for one season because you have no 536 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 2: other option at running back. You have an injured Zach 537 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 2: Charpanay who you don't know when he's coming back, and 538 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 2: you've gotten nothing else. It seems to me like eleven 539 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 2: and a half million dollars is a reasonable insurance policy 540 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 2: to pay for ken Walker. And then if a team 541 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 2: comes in and blows you away and you have the opportunity, 542 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 2: you then at least have the opportunity to match it. 543 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 3: He doesn't just run out the door. 544 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 2: And if you don't want to match the long term offer, 545 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 2: you don't have to match the long term offer. That 546 00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 2: seems to me like the time and place to you, 547 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 2: who's a transition tag is on a guy? 548 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 6: Like that transition number for this year eleven and a 549 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 6: half and then and what's the franchise fourteen fourteen? Yeah, 550 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 6: like you said, they haven't done that. You know, how 551 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 6: how likely our teams uh to be involved in the 552 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 6: bidding if they they're convinced Seattle's is going to match. 553 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 5: I mean people have people have you know. 554 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 6: We've done the transition obviously, I think it sounds logical. 555 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 6: It just hasn't been something they've done right. 556 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 2: Ninety three point three KJRFM textimonials coming up. 557 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 3: John Wilner at five o'clock. 558 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 2: Everard fits Hugh at six Dick and Hughes soft he's 559 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 2: out for the week. 560 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 3: We'll be back right after this. Ninety three point three 561 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 3: KJRFM