1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: A twenty nine. If you have kroc de talk station, 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:08,399 Speaker 1: it's Friday, which means the return oh Jack Windsor from 3 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: the High Press Network. I see you there, Jack, the 4 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 1: little zoom thing working now and you're in screen. Fortunately 5 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: you weren't for a moment ago. I didn't think you 6 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: were there, and that always worries the hell out of you. 7 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 2: Joe, Joe, Is he there? 8 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: Anyway? 9 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 2: Jack? 10 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: You find Jack online and you bookmark the website because 11 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 1: you're gonna love at the Ohio Pressnetwork dot com reporting 12 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: on lots of matters going on in Ohio, including topic 13 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: number one. And I've been cracking up. What in the 14 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: hell's with you in Bigfoot? Man? I mean, you know 15 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: I am not a Bigfoot believer, good cause you would 16 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 1: have been duped like so many other people. Jack read 17 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: the Wall Street Journal article from John Jurgensen outlining the 18 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: new movie that came out, letting everybody know that it 19 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: was all a hoax, going back to what his dad 20 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: did and faking that video back in nineteen sixty seven. 21 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 2: Thank you for pointing that out. 22 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 3: So part of why we published the story is that 23 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 3: there were six and I used it in I see 24 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 3: marks credible Bigfoot sighting incredible. When I talked about it 25 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 3: on air, I said, well, whoever deems them credible? Apparently 26 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:07,119 Speaker 3: it's the Bigfoot Society and the Bigfoot Mapping Project, probably 27 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 3: two entities that want these things to be true, or 28 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 3: at least want people to think they're true so that 29 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 3: their membership and support goes up. But I digress sales. Yeah, 30 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 3: that's right. Here's what's interesting about this to me? Are 31 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 3: there people who truly believe it? And what did these 32 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 3: people see or are they lying? Okay, so it happens 33 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 3: on six different occasions in one area, and maybe it 34 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,839 Speaker 3: is some conspiracy that ties them all together. But here's 35 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 3: where my head went, and it's probably wrong, but if 36 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 3: you remember, there was a drug trafficking case involving an 37 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 3: incarcerated prisoner and a big network of people, and what 38 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 3: we learned as we dug through the facts is that 39 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 3: one lady talked about using a drone that actually looked 40 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 3: like a bird in order to ship these drugs. And 41 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 3: I thought, Okay, wouldn't it be interesting if these people 42 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 3: dressed as Bigfoot? We're out doing the various things. Now 43 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 3: I shouldn't say that on air because now people will 44 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 3: probably try to capture them and see what they hell 45 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 3: they're up to. But nonetheless, six credible bigfoot sightings is 46 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 3: something that hasn't happened since the nineteen seventies. 47 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 2: I thought, well, we ought to probably take a look 48 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 2: at that. Okay. 49 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: I take issue with the word credible, because let me 50 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 1: ask us a simple question, Jack Winsor, in all the 51 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 1: years that people who believed in Sasquatch and Bigfoot and 52 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 1: whatever the hell you want to call this fictisous being 53 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: question for those who really believe in them, where do 54 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,959 Speaker 1: the big feet go to die? How come we haven't 55 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: run across the big Foot carcass? Do they bury themselves 56 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: ahead of time? Are they immortal? Just asking for a friend, Jack. 57 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well I'll tell you the answer that I get. 58 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 3: They find these portals that are interdimensional travel tunnels, maybe 59 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 3: they go there to die. 60 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: Credible sources confirming what Jack Winsor just said. And also 61 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: the other correlator or corollary to this is are they 62 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: some sort of a subset of the broader category of 63 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: lizard people which some people think are real? 64 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 2: Oh, lizard people, moth men? I don't know. 65 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 3: There may be this entire genre of human like beings 66 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 3: that we just don't understand yet. 67 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 2: I don't know. 68 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 1: Perhaps, Also, where did chop a cobbra go to die? 69 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:12,679 Speaker 1: Apparently they're all over the place too, except we can't 70 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 1: find any dead ones laying around. 71 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 3: Okay, I will tell you this. Here's the best part 72 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 3: of this for me. Do you know how Bigfoot tells time? 73 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 3: Brian no sas squatch? 74 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 1: Okay, that's a Joe doesn't have a rim shot on 75 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: SoundBite ready, ready, readily hand handy Jack. 76 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 3: The kids didn't even laugh at that when I know 77 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 3: it's not good. But that's all I could muster after 78 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 3: this Bigfoot story. 79 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 2: Fair enough? 80 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: All right, Well, we'll keep We'll be keeping in touch 81 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: with your hogh press network dot com. Make sure we're 82 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: all up to speed on Bigfoot in the sightings anyhow. 83 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: Pivoting over Donald Trump visited the other day. Your reaction 84 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: to the visit, generally speaking, Jack windsor. 85 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 3: Well, I think the reaction is it's good for him 86 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 3: to be out and about touting his economic plan. Thermo 87 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 3: Fisher is one of the Ohio places that he stopped by, 88 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 3: and they were able to grab a quote from a 89 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 3: woman there who says that their business is doubling because 90 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 3: of some of the things that are going on. I 91 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 3: think that's important, But don't lose sight of the fact 92 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 3: that he stopped in Kentucky and in the same district 93 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 3: where he has supported a primary candidate that is opposing 94 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 3: Congressman Thomas. 95 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 1: Massive yah ed Gowran. 96 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,359 Speaker 2: You know that's right, that's right now. I think it's important. 97 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 3: It's all about messaging, Brian, and so as Trump gets 98 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 3: out and spreads the message more about Trump, RX, about 99 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 3: drug price, is about the economy, and explains what's going 100 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 3: on in Iran. I think that's better for Republicans that 101 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 3: are that are aligned with. 102 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: Him well and being aligned with Congressman Mai Massey on 103 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: things constitutional. He is a very strict interpretation is to 104 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: the Constitution. He fights to uphold it in the face 105 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 1: of many and most politicians wanting to play fast and 106 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: loose with the with what's in the Constitution, the rights 107 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 1: that are protected by the Constitution. He didn't vow and 108 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: swear an oath to the Republican Party, which is a 109 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 1: statement from Donald Trump that rubbed me the wrong way. 110 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 1: While he was there in Kentucky, he attacked him for 111 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: like abandoning the Republican Party, and yet Congress from Massie 112 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: can stand on principle and say I swore an oath 113 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 1: to the Constitution, and he has done probably a better 114 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: job than any of the politician at least reminding people 115 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: about what the Constitution says. 116 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Yeah. 117 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 3: If there is something I will say about Thomas Massey, 118 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 3: I've had the honor of interviewing him twice. It's that 119 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 3: you know what you're gonna get, Amen. Thomas Massey comes 120 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 3: from the same position every single time. Is is it constitutional? 121 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 3: And if I strictly interpret that and try to spread 122 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 3: that out over this policy, over this position, you know 123 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 3: where you are now. 124 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 2: There are some Congressmen that. 125 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 3: Are in some hot water about recent positions with respect 126 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 3: to Iran that you kind of look at and go, oh, 127 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 3: maybe you don't want to go there, But you know 128 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:48,799 Speaker 3: where Massi's coming from all the time. 129 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 2: You do. 130 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: And in spite of how great the outcome may end 131 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: up for the entire globe with Iran, you still have 132 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: to deal with the legal realities. There are different interpretations 133 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: of what it means to declare war and who has 134 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 1: that power. We have the war Powers resolution to contend with, too, 135 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: which also may be in constitutional never tested in court, 136 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: but different perceptions, different realities. You may not like what 137 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 1: he says, but I think he is consistent as he 138 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: always has been with his interpretation of the Constitution. So 139 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: there we have it. We'll continue with Jack Winsor and 140 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: find out what he thinks about Dwine's latest State of 141 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 1: the State address eight fifty five Caroseed Talk Station. Always 142 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 1: enjoy these conversations with Jack Winsor from the Ohio Press 143 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: Network editor in chief. He is and he also writes 144 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: many articles at the ohiopressnetwork dot com. Jack wins Or, 145 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: I saw your piece on the state. Last State of 146 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: the State we get from Governor Mike Dwine, your thoughts 147 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: and comments, reactions, and some of the things he had 148 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 1: to say. I know we talked a lot about artificial 149 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 1: intelligence and tech issues, and I appreciate this sentiment behind 150 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: that he wants new law forcing cell phone tech manufacturers 151 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: to make an automatic parental controls in there to let 152 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: parents track and limit content. There are applications out there 153 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: you can do on your own if you're not informed 154 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: along those lines. We have Tech Friday Dave Hatter every 155 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 1: Friday in the morning show reminding us yes, you can do 156 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: that already. 157 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 2: Do we need a law for this, Jack, No, we 158 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 2: do not. 159 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 3: This is again Governor Mike DeWine playing benevolent grandpa, where 160 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 3: he wants people to perceive him as the guy that 161 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 3: cares about kids and takes care of everything. Now, this 162 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 3: to me is no different than Shared Brown touting a 163 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 3: shrinkflation bill telling businesses how they're going to package their products. 164 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 3: Governor Mike Dwine might be well intended, but telling tech 165 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 3: companies that they have to do X, Y and Z 166 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 3: is him stepping over the line from the public sector 167 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 3: into the private sector, where he has no business being 168 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 3: and where lawmakers I don't think in this instance have 169 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 3: any place. 170 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 2: To go what was popular. 171 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 3: I actually agree we have to get our minds and 172 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 3: laws around. This is tackling some of the AI dangers. 173 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 3: You've seen headlines in the past couple of weeks about 174 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 3: people who are using AI and they're making those AI 175 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 3: caricatures or whatever you want to call them, look like 176 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 3: miners for pornographic reads. Since I think that is disgusting 177 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 3: as it is something that we do need to come against, 178 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 3: and so I think there is support for that. But 179 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 3: then you know he also talked about reviving Ohio's seat 180 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 3: belt law. That's something that I think is going to 181 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 3: die with that speech. 182 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:14,559 Speaker 1: Good. 183 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 2: Absolutely, Look if I. 184 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 3: Want, if you want to wear a seat belt, Brian, 185 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 3: and I think great bay telling me to do it 186 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 3: is none of the guideliness. 187 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: I ride a motorcycle, not as much as I used to, 188 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: but always wear a helmet. You got a ten dollars head, 189 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: at least put it in a ten dollars bucket. But 190 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: I'm not here to tell you have to do it. 191 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,559 Speaker 1: It just seems to make common sense. My head sliding 192 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: along a pavement at fifty miles an hour without a 193 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: helmet is enough of a threat to get me to 194 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: do the right thing. Same thing with a seat belt. 195 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: Put it on, You're going to end up in an 196 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: airbag at minimum. 197 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 3: Well, and if I'm wrong here, please prove me wrong 198 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 3: and I will accept responsibility. But where this is asinine 199 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 3: to me is that I think he actually commissioned to 200 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 3: study about putting seat belts in school buses, because my 201 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 3: argument is, if you're going to force somebody in a car, 202 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 3: why aren't our kids seat belt you know, protected? 203 00:08:59,520 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 2: Then? 204 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 3: And somehow I think that study came out that it 205 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 3: was just not a good idea. Okay, if we have 206 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 3: jumped the shark konzi. If it's not a good idea 207 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 3: for kids in the school bus, then we cannot require 208 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 3: adults in cars to wear them as well. But one 209 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 3: thing that I do appreciate is that he continues to 210 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 3: tout Ohio's science of reading, which I think has a 211 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,319 Speaker 3: mountain of evidence behind it. I think Ohio, like many states, 212 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 3: suffered just dangerous levels of academic and education and loss 213 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 3: during COVID, and we need to make sure that kids 214 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 3: maintain a level of literacy, and the science of reading 215 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 3: is the way to do that. There are laws on 216 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 3: the books, and he's saying, look, we're going to put 217 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 3: together some groups to help make sure that our resources 218 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 3: to help make sure that that is actually what is taught. 219 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 3: The people who are teaching reading that they understand how 220 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 3: to teach it. So that's a good thing. But then 221 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 3: he kind of went down the path again and oh, look, 222 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 3: we're going to use another tool to track student attendance. 223 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 3: We're going to create a dashboard, and he lost me again. 224 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 3: There there are a lot of people, Brian in my 225 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 3: world who are celebrating probably popped some Champagne on Tuesday, 226 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 3: realizing that that is the last time they need to 227 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 3: watch or hear Governor Dwine deliver. 228 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 2: A state of the state. 229 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, Amy Acton was appeared by his side 230 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:15,959 Speaker 1: many times, rubbing many of my listeners the wrong way 231 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: over during the COVID period, Amy lockdown acting, you do 232 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,199 Speaker 1: have choices when it comes to the next governor. I 233 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: wouldn't want to get down that road. So we've learned 234 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: a lot from the Dwine administration, have we not? 235 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 3: He created that monster? Brian, thank you for going to that. 236 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 3: And by the way, maybe I shouldn't ask you a question. 237 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 3: Do you put any stock in the poll that we 238 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 3: saw yesterday that has Amy acted ten points onto a 239 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 3: bak Ramaswami? 240 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: Okay, good, No, although you know I'm glad you brought 241 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: up Eva Ramaswami clearly obviously a segue for that. But 242 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: I have met people I have had it explained to 243 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 1: me that the opposition of Viva Ramasami springs almost purely 244 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 1: not because he's a wildly successful businessman, ornything because he's Hindu. 245 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 2: We live in a theocracy. No, we don't live in 246 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 2: a theoto. Can they promise on me make. 247 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: Me worship the Hindu religion or otherwise change religious affiliation. 248 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: Does he have a power to even suggest that. 249 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 3: No, he doesn't, and I think that's why he's stayed 250 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 3: in tight in the lane about the policy positions. But 251 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 3: that will become an issue for people who want it 252 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 3: to become an issue. But what will be interesting is 253 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 3: to talk about Amy act and what's her belief system, 254 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 3: because we can talk about abortion all day long. I 255 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 3: don't think she's a Christian, but now we're going to punish. 256 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 3: So we're going to go down that road and I'm 257 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 3: going to get fired up. But I will say this, 258 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 3: I think one of the things that Republicans are going 259 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 3: to have to come to a reckoning on is I 260 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 3: don't think it's just him being Hindu. I'm going to 261 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 3: say this, and it's probably going to perturb some people. 262 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:43,719 Speaker 3: I think it's that he has brown skin in a 263 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 3: funny last name. I think that's one of the things 264 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 3: that some Republicans in certain circles still struggle with. 265 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:50,479 Speaker 2: And so we're going to see. 266 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 3: It is racist one hundred percent, and that is that 267 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:57,079 Speaker 3: is exactly what some of the feedback we get is that, oh, 268 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 3: I don't want him to support these visas. 269 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 2: I don't want him bringing people from India over. I 270 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 2: don't want X, Y and Z. 271 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 3: He's an Indian and I'm thinking, man, I thought the party, 272 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 3: you know, had a better look about it than that. 273 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 3: But that is still an issue for some Republicans unfortunately. 274 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 1: Well, not to maybe mistake her nationality, but I do 275 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: believe my cancer doctor who I will be seeing today 276 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: for my treatment is from India and she's a hell 277 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: of a great doctor. How about that, Listen, I don't 278 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: get it, man. 279 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 3: You know, my family came from England, and my mom 280 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 3: and her family are Native American. And by the way, 281 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 3: America is the great melting pot. The only problem that 282 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 3: I think I have with immigration is that when it's 283 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 3: not done lawfully, and am to jump each other in 284 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 3: the line, and we're not strategic about it, and we 285 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 3: allow criminals in. Otherwise, America is the great melting pot, 286 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 3: and so we should welcome people like vivik Ramaswami to 287 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 3: lead our state. 288 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 1: And I agree, and I just go back to my 289 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 1: immigrant history. The difference between then and now. You can 290 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: be libertarian in a perception about open borders, but when 291 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 1: open borders means automatic access and rights to the public 292 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 1: city and all the social welfare programs. And you can't 293 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: keep a hold on the numbers, you end up bleeding 294 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 1: heart yourself into death right. I mean, that's what's going 295 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 1: on right now. Look at our deficit. 296 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 3: Well, not only are we seeing resources stretched thin I 297 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 3: was boots on the ground covering it up close in Springfield, 298 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:19,319 Speaker 3: Ohio with the Haitian population. 299 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 2: I know for a fact that exists. 300 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 3: But let's just look as far back as yesterday, Brian, 301 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 3: two tragic shootings here in the United States of America, 302 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:32,719 Speaker 3: both perpetrated by people who were somehow ideologically infiltrated by 303 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 3: ISIS terrorists. That is a significant issue. When you have 304 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,079 Speaker 3: a welcome matt instead of a border wall for four 305 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 3: years and you allow whatever the number is, ten million, 306 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 3: fifteen million, twenty million people in, you start to see 307 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 3: how tragic that can be. That's my biggest heartburn, Brian, 308 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 3: is that there are people here who hate this country 309 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 3: and they came in under the Biden administration. Not only 310 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 3: are they stretching our resources, but they have they have 311 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 3: the ability to make our communities extremely unsafe. 312 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: They do. And that's one thing you say about legal 313 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: immigration may be a challenge to get through the whole process, 314 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: and some say it's too difficult. At least you have 315 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: to take the time and the effort and learn and 316 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 1: understand the founding principles of our country, which is a 317 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: great opportunity for us to ensure that they are coming 318 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 1: here to assimilate. They demonstrated a desire to assimilate by 319 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: going through the legal process, and that ensures a more 320 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: stable and well valuable workforce if they're willing to do 321 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: the time recognizing that they have to actually work for 322 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: a living problem. Solve more with Jack Winsortheohio Pressnetwork dot com. 323 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: We're gonna ask I'm asking him about Marcel Sturbage and 324 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: Roberts Bregg since Robert Sprague preceded you on the morning show. 325 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 2: This KOC the talk station eighty nine. 326 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: Little Dead Kennedy's going there, Thank you, Jostrekker closing out 327 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: to Dy by Gary Karrose Morning. 328 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 2: Show Jello Biofera. 329 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: As we finish up one more segment here with Jack 330 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: Winsor from the High Press Network. Thankfully we get him 331 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: every Friday for about a half hour and real quick 332 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: before we leave the State of the Year Union. The 333 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: last or State of the State address from Dwaine. Did 334 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: he have anything to say about energy policy? I mean, 335 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: you mentioned artificial intelligence. We have a huge demand that's 336 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: coming our way. I know again shout out to Vivi Ramaswami. 337 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: Is all about maybe embracing these small modular reactors. I 338 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: am a huge fan of them. It seems to be 339 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: the salvation of the world. But here we are with 340 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: the opportunity that exists in these various facilities. Whether you 341 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: want one in your backyard or not, this is obviously 342 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: the future. So either we get them or somebody else 343 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: gets them. What about the energy. 344 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think sorry about that. He mentioned that Ohio 345 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 3: is site ready. That is the primary focal point of 346 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 3: what he talked about with respect to economic policy and advancement. 347 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 3: Now I will have to tell you about the final 348 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 3: ten minutes. I actually kind of tuned out. I listened, 349 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 3: but I wasn't listening. 350 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 2: Oh, I know that terrible. 351 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 3: Probably there's a point beyond which his voice it just 352 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 3: kind of goes in one there and out the other. 353 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 3: For me. But no, I think the way that he 354 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 3: positioned it is that Ohio is site ready. We've made 355 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 3: significant changes with respect to our energy marketplace with respect 356 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 3: to permitting, and so the way that he teed it up, 357 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 3: he talked about places like joeb Aviation Anderill and how 358 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 3: those companies are here because Ohio is site ready, and 359 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 3: so I think he believes that we're kind of on 360 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 3: the bleeding edge there. 361 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: All right, fair enough, and he's it's out of his hands, 362 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: I guess by now anyway, because this is year. This 363 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: will be years in the making to get to that point, 364 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: and we're at the front end of it. So at 365 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: least if we're site ready, that's one step that's knocked 366 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: down and we can move forward with hopefully under the 367 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: under the control of Ramaswamy and anyway, pivoting over, we 368 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: have choices when it comes to Secretary of State. I 369 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: had treasure Robert Sprague on earlier, and you know, honestly, 370 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: I really really like Marcel Sturvage I've had I've talked 371 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: to him a couple of times. His energy, his enthusiasm, 372 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: his command of the issues and what I mean. He 373 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: is a strong, strong candidate and he's got some great ideas. 374 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: I kind of flip a coin. If we get Sprague, 375 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: if we at Marcel Sturbadge, I think neither one of 376 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: them is advancing any policies that I completely disagree with. 377 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: But I did ask mister Sprague about the endorsement from 378 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: the party ahead of the primary and if he thought 379 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: that was an appropriate thing to do. Of course, he said, well, listen, 380 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: the voters ultimately get the choice anyway. He's representative democracy 381 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 1: we live in. I appreciate the endorsement from the Republican Party. 382 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: It is what it is. They do what they do, 383 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 1: so I understand his point on that. But going back 384 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: to the issues, and I know you're a fan of 385 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: Sturbridge as well. What's your take on all of this 386 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 1: as we and he didn't. He kind of well of 387 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 1: fuled a little bit about a debate. 388 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 2: Yes he did. 389 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:38,120 Speaker 3: I've seen the rejection email where he states that they're 390 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 3: not going to debate it this time. So when he 391 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 3: says that we will see if we can find a 392 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 3: time in some kind of platform, he did, that's breaking news. 393 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 3: So let's follow up on that and let's keep his 394 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 3: feet to the fire on it. And then he points 395 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 3: out that Trump didn't enter. 396 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 2: The debate stage. 397 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 3: By the way, I want to say this very firmly, 398 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 3: I really like Robert Sprague, I would he probably wouldn't 399 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 3: have a bourbon. I would have a bourbon. He'd probably 400 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 3: have a coffee, but I'd sit down and have drink 401 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 3: with the guy. And by the way, no, I don't 402 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 3: over consume bourbon. Just trying to be funny, Okay, But 403 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 3: he's no Trump. He's no Donald Trump, and I think 404 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 3: trying to compare himself to Donald Trump is quite a 405 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:12,880 Speaker 3: bold move on his part. And the reason I say 406 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:14,679 Speaker 3: that is if you go back and you listen to 407 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 3: Donald Trump in the eighties and nineties, he was saying 408 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 3: the same things then as he is today about China, 409 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 3: about America's position in the world. And then you look 410 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 3: at Robert Sprague and you go, Okay, Robert Sprague, if 411 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 3: you are so passionate about these election law and election 412 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 3: integrity changes, why didn't you pass or propose election integrity 413 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 3: legislation when you were in the legislature for eight years? 414 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 3: Because I'm not seeing it. If somebody else is seeing it, 415 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 3: I would love to report on it. And here's my 416 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:39,919 Speaker 3: big issue. 417 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 2: Again. 418 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 3: I like Robert Sprague, but if he refuses to debate 419 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 3: and just wants to defer to President Trump on that again, 420 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 3: he's comparing the East to the West. He is not 421 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 3: Donald Trump. But if he wants to take on some 422 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 3: of the significant changes in Ohio, making sure only citizens 423 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 3: get on the voter rolls ensuring that mismatched voter forms 424 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 3: go to provisional status until proven offuthentic, outlawing third party 425 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 3: groups that register people. Now we'll talk about that maybe 426 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 3: a later time, because he's kind of bastardized that idea, 427 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 3: and requiring photo ID for all voting that means getting 428 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 3: mail in ballots and then eliminating drought boxes. If he 429 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 3: wants to do all those, I'm going to tell you 430 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 3: he's not only going to get pressure from Democrats in lawsuits. 431 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 3: He's going to get Republicans who go, oh, goy, you know, 432 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 3: gotcha really hard. If you can't debate your opponent who's 433 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 3: a Republican, how the hell are you going to stand 434 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 3: in the breach and do those hard things? 435 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 1: Well, and he did sort of kind of bring that 436 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: up in the context of these election reforms, that the 437 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: counties will bear the way to responsibility for implementation, and 438 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: they're always complaining, like Republicans would be complaining against these reforms. 439 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: We don't have the money or the ability to do that. 440 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 1: I would like to think that somewhere in the vast 441 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: resources of the Higle budget they can come up with 442 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 1: enough money to deal with election integrity, the foundation of 443 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:50,880 Speaker 1: our entire system of government. 444 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 445 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 3: Absolutely, actually do an audit on the Somali daycare issue. 446 00:19:58,000 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 3: Pay attention to the reporting that we're going to have 447 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 3: come out in the next week or so that deals 448 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 3: with the billions of dollars in fraud in Ohio's medicaid system. 449 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 3: So look, the money is there, Brian. 450 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 2: You know this. 451 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 3: I come from the business world, and we used to say, 452 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 3: if you want to get something done, give it to 453 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 3: a busy person, because a busy person knows how to prioritize. 454 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 3: It's no different in politics. If you want to get 455 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 3: something done, make it a priority. 456 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 2: That's an excuse. 457 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: Well stated Jack wendsorhiwpressnetwork dot com where you find him. 458 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: Check it out a bookmarket and tune in next Friday. 459 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 1: We'll talk with Jack again at eight thirty on next Friday. Jack, 460 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: have a great week and a great weekend, my friend, 461 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: you too, Brian, God bless you, bless you appreciate your time.