1 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:09,159 Speaker 1: Fifty five KRC, the talk station. Dan Carroll in for 2 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: Brian Thomas, little intro music for our buddy Ken Kober 3 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,799 Speaker 1: right there, the main man at the Cincinnati Fop. And 4 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 1: I was I was doing something yesterday and I got 5 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: a text message from Joe Strecker and he says, hey, 6 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: you got Ken Cobra at six point thirty. So I said, 7 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: that's fine with me. I haven't talked to Kennon a 8 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: little bit and Ken Cober, great to have you on 9 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 1: this morning. How you doing. 10 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 2: I'm doing great, Dan, Thanks for having me. 11 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: How are you never a dull moment? Never a dull 12 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 1: moment in your world? 13 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 2: Is it? No? No, They're Nora? 14 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: Is unbelievable. According to our friend Signal ninety nine, over 15 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 1: fifty arrests, more than seventy vehicles towed. That has got 16 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: account for a pretty busy night for our friends in 17 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Police Force. 18 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there were there were a lot of 19 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 2: resources expended to make sure that these people couldn't do 20 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 2: some of the things that they wanted to do and 21 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 2: endanger the community, which I certainly applaud the cops for doing. 22 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought this business of the attempted street takeovers 23 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 1: had sort of run its course. It seems like it's 24 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: been a little while since we had an event like this. 25 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 2: Well, we have had some success stopping this nonsense, you know, 26 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 2: or at least identifying some of the people evolved been 27 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 2: going back and charging them. But this group, primarily, I 28 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 2: think it was like eighty five percent of this group 29 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 2: weren't from Cincinnati, so they may not have understood that 30 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 2: we've been taking this seriously and we are going to 31 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 2: find a way to stop this nonsense. 32 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: So when they do these street takeovers, what do they do. 33 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: A bunch of people with souped up cars, They get 34 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: together and just block off an area and then just 35 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: do crazy stuff. How do these things work? 36 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they basically just go out and try 37 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 2: to try to be a menace. They'll stop. I mean, 38 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 2: I've seen it back when I was of the Beat. 39 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 2: They shut down Second Street at midnight on a Saturday night, 40 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 2: where cars couldn't go anywhere, and they would block the 41 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 2: intersection and then just do doughnuts, you know, revel engines, 42 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 2: you know, do burnouts, all this nonsense just to create chaos. 43 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 2: And I imagine you it's midnight on a Saturday night, 44 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 2: you're asleep and one of these nice apartments downtown, and 45 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:24,959 Speaker 2: all of a sudden you hear a bunch of motors 46 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,959 Speaker 2: reven and tires squealing, and it just becomes a quality 47 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 2: of life issue, not to mention how dangerous it could 48 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 2: be for some of these onlookers. One of these cars 49 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 2: loses control. But what ultimately ends up happening is the 50 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 2: police get there. They go to break it up. And 51 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 2: what do these fools do. They take off in every 52 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 2: direction as fast as they can, with absolutely zero regard 53 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 2: for safety, running red lights. I watched a cargo about 54 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 2: eighty five miles an hour down Second Street on a 55 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 2: busy Saturday night. Just these people have no regard for 56 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 2: any safety whatsoever. 57 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember, I want to say it was a 58 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: couple of years ago. There was an incident similar to 59 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: this one when we had over the weekend and it 60 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: was down on Fort Washington Way, and it was the 61 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 1: guy who would and I forget his name, his name 62 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: escapes me at the time, but he was a meteorologist 63 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: for Channel nine and he was on his way was 64 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: on a weekend, and so he was working a weekend shift. 65 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: He's on his way out of the station, he's coming 66 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: through the litle tunnel and he gets to the other 67 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: end of the tunnel and they've got Fort Washington Way 68 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: blocked off and they're and they're doing the street takeover 69 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: down there on Fort Washington Way. And he and he 70 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,399 Speaker 1: just drove up right on this right after this had 71 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: had gotten started, and he said he was approached by 72 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: people in this group and he felt threatened for his 73 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: safety because and all he was the one was sitting 74 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: in their mind in his own business. So is this 75 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: another component of these street takeovers where if anyone threatens 76 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: to to get in their way or tries to get 77 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: through that they that they threaten these people with violence. 78 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, not to mention, I believe there were three 79 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 2: guns that were recovered as a result of this chaos 80 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 2: that went on Saturday. And I understand this. This didn't 81 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 2: just start like, Hey, we're going to meet here and 82 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 2: we're gonna do this. While these folks are all gathering together, 83 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 2: you know, they're driving recklessly through the city east side 84 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 2: of the city to west side downtown. There were multiple 85 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 2: officers stop people at different locations. There were cars that 86 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 2: fled from the police before they even get started with 87 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 2: this nonsense. So these aren't like these are law abiding 88 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 2: citizens and said, hey, why don't you come take a 89 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 2: look at my really fancy sports car. These are people 90 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 2: that are there that have ill intent, that don't have 91 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 2: any regard for safety of anybody. And it's only an 92 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 2: out of a time before somebody gets killed in one 93 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 2: of these incidents. 94 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: So seventy cars towed in all that to me sounds 95 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: like that had to take a little while. And I 96 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: would imagine while this is going on, these people can't 97 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 1: be very happy that their expensive cars are getting towed away. 98 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 2: What was that like, Yeah, yeah, and there's almost almost 99 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 2: forty people went to jail. And understand there are more 100 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 2: people that are going to be arrested because of this. 101 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 2: You know, the law is very very clear in Ohio 102 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 2: for the street racing that you don't have to be 103 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 2: the driver of the vehicle if you are a participant 104 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,679 Speaker 2: and one of these things, and that could be taking 105 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 2: video of it, that could be you know, handing out 106 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 2: popcorn to spectators, you know, cheering them on. You know, 107 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 2: they're going to go through all this video evidence and 108 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 2: if they can identify more people, they're going to charge 109 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 2: more people. But to your point, yeah, there are a 110 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 2: lot of people that weren't really happy about having their 111 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 2: cars towed. But you know, the fortunate part of this is, 112 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 2: you know, they have been monitoring this group of people 113 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 2: for a while and they finally got them to the 114 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 2: point where they're in a parking lot where we can 115 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 2: keep them contained. This is all I do is put 116 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 2: out stop sticks, and if you run over the stopsticks, 117 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 2: well you're going to have four flat tires. So it 118 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 2: ended about as safely as it possibly could have. 119 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 1: Well, it just it just goes to show that more 120 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: excellent work by our men and women in uniform in 121 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Police Department. Ken, can you can you hang 122 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 1: on for a quick break? I got a couple more 123 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: questions on the other side. 124 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, things all right. 125 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: Stay right there with Ken Kobra and we'll get back 126 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: to him in a fifty five KRC the talk station. 127 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 1: This is fifty five KRC and iHeartRadio Steam the talk station. 128 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: Fifty five KRC the Talk station, and Carroll and for 129 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 1: Brian Thomas, continuing our conversation with Ken Cober. Now and 130 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: Ken Cober, we talked about the event, the street takeover, 131 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: and that happened in District four. Then went down towards downtown. 132 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: So that was a crazy event overnight. So we see this, 133 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 1: and we see this in the wake of the review 134 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: of the city manager. And I'm looking at this review 135 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: and the first point on the city manager's review in 136 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 1: which the city council gave her a great review, which 137 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 1: I believe, if I'm not mistaken, she wrote the review herself, 138 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: was public safety. That point number one, public safety and health. 139 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: And apparently we don't just find in that category. How 140 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: would you size up the area, especially when it comes 141 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 1: to public safety in Cincinnati these. 142 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 2: Days, it's certainly a rough first ten or eleven weeks 143 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 2: of the year. Shootings are up drastically. I know, homicides 144 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 2: are up drastically, So I think i'd argue right now, 145 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 2: especially in some of the coldest months of this year, 146 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 2: probably not succeeding with the safety plan. 147 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: Well, the number that was reported was in Cincinnati so 148 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: far this year, sixty shootings are up. The number of 149 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: people shot in Cincinnati sixty two point five percent this 150 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: period of time over last year's period of time. That 151 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: to me sounds like a pretty big number. 152 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it certainly is a very big number, especially 153 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 2: when you're talking about really the months of January and February, 154 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 2: which historically have been you know, lower crime months just 155 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 2: because it's cold, people don't want to go out things 156 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 2: like that. But yeah, I mean it, it is certainly alarming. 157 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 2: But you know, we're starting to see the ripple effect 158 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:07,679 Speaker 2: of you know, zero accountability in the court system, zero accountability, 159 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 2: and just in the social networks. I mean, you see 160 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 2: what's accepted when people you see what people put on 161 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 2: social media about different shootings, and they just it's it's 162 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 2: become so commonplax, people become so numb to it. They 163 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 2: just expected it to happen. And you know, of course, 164 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 2: you know there's no accountability. You've got that many more gunmen, 165 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:32,079 Speaker 2: You've got that many known shooters that are running around Cincinnati. 166 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 2: It's no surprise that shootings are up. 167 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 1: Do you have any sense of anything that is happening 168 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 1: in the situation with the Chief Theresa Thigi obviously suspended, 169 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 1: The investigation has been going on, it's been extended a 170 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: couple of times. Now, do you have any sense, Ken Kober, 171 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 1: that we're going to see any movement in that area, 172 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 1: any significant movement as it relates to Chief eg Now. 173 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 2: I kind of hard to believe. I mean, they just 174 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 2: keep on punning every month, and I don't know if 175 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,079 Speaker 2: I hope so this just goes away that people forget 176 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 2: about it. I don't know. I mean it's I don't 177 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 2: see a scenario where the chief comes back. But I 178 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 2: also don't see a scenario where the city gets man, 179 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:18,959 Speaker 2: we messed up. This isn't how we should be treating 180 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 2: somebody that's done, you know, three and a half decades 181 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 2: of service to the city, and we're going to make 182 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 2: this right to you. I just don't see the city 183 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 2: doing the right thing. 184 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: But in a real sense, though, how does this filter down? 185 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: How does it when when you deal with the men 186 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 1: and women that you deal with every day, who are 187 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: on the streets, who are going to roll call every day, 188 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: when they look at this situation and they see this 189 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:43,719 Speaker 1: is happening to the chief, does that translate to them 190 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 1: and all looking at look at I mean, here's my 191 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 1: own personal situation, and if they can do something like 192 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: this to the chief, what about me? 193 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely, it is absolutely a reality. That's the first 194 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 2: thing that cops have said is if they'll do this 195 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 2: to the police chief, what will they do me. I'm 196 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 2: just a police officer. Now I go out and I 197 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 2: do you know, I do the right thing, and somehow 198 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 2: politicians don't like it. Is this? How is this how 199 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 2: I'm going to be treated? And then you have this 200 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 2: This has been going on now for months and it's like, Okay, well, 201 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 2: who's ultimately going to be in charge of this police department? 202 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 2: The men and women in this police department deserves to 203 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 2: know who the leadership is going to be moving forward. 204 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 2: And I guess we assume right now just because interim 205 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 2: Chief Henny's been here. And believe me, I mean he's 206 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 2: done a good job. I think a lot of people 207 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 2: like him. But you know, still it's like, what are 208 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 2: we doing? We need to have some finality here, and 209 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 2: I think it's something that either City Hall doesn't recognize 210 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 2: or they just don't care well well. 211 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: And I get the sense that Chief Henny is is 212 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: really not in the loop either when it comes to information, 213 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: and so that's got to affect the way he does 214 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: his job. 215 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 2: Well. Sure, anytime you have an interim chief, and I've 216 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,839 Speaker 2: seen this throughout my career several times, you know where 217 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 2: it makes it difficult for an interim chief to come 218 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 2: in and make some of the changes that they believe 219 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 2: that should be fit chief. And he's made some changes. 220 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 2: I do believe that there's more things that he would 221 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:16,959 Speaker 2: like to do. But it's hard when it's hard when 222 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:21,599 Speaker 2: you're just the aium to make some really really drastic 223 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 2: changes just because you don't know if you're going to 224 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:24,839 Speaker 2: be there or no. 225 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: And that's just it. I mean, you've got to be 226 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 1: You've got to be gun shy when it comes to 227 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 1: pulling that trigger or getting irons in the fire. And 228 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: then you know, a couple of weeks or a couple 229 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,319 Speaker 1: of months later, well, the the you know, the old 230 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: chief is coming back. So all this stuff that I 231 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: had going, well, we've got to put that on hold 232 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: or wipe all that out because you know, look, I mean, 233 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: the chief is the chief. The Chief's got to have 234 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: their own policies. 235 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 2: Certainly makes you wonder if this is done by design? 236 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,719 Speaker 2: What was this done by design? I don't know. 237 00:11:55,960 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I mean, look I look at it from 238 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: from the position I'm in, I'm frustrated by it. But you, 239 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: I mean you you live it every day, and the 240 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: men and women who where there were uniform, they live 241 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: it every day. And I can only imagine the level 242 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: of frustration on top of everything else that goes on 243 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 1: with the revolving door that we have at the Justice 244 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: center and everything else. 245 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, it's it just ripped the band aid off. 246 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 2: Make a decision. We'll live with it, just like we've 247 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 2: done every other time that some discuss has happened. So 248 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 2: just I wish they would just be transparent making decision 249 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 2: so we can all move on. Yeah, regardless of what 250 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 2: that looks like, we should be able to move on. 251 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: Uh, you know, we we appreciate the transparency from the 252 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 1: police department as far as the neighborhood crime reports, the 253 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: numbers of shootings, the breakdown of the crimes. Uh, the 254 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: the you know, the the burglaries, the thefts, the all 255 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 1: the rest of it. The shootings, it's the numbers are 256 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: not good and so that needs to be addressed in 257 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:56,839 Speaker 1: a serious way. Are there going to be a bunch 258 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: of these cars up for auction sometime soon or these 259 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 1: people going to get their cars back? 260 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 2: Well, it certainly depends. You know, it depends on if 261 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:06,839 Speaker 2: they're going to come down and pay the fees that 262 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 2: are going to be associated with this. I suspect the 263 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 2: cars are going to be at least held up for 264 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 2: evidence for a while, so I don't know. We'll see. Hopefully, 265 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:17,559 Speaker 2: hopefully that's how it all turns out. They'll stop this 266 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 2: nonsense in Cincinnati. 267 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 1: All right, Ken Cober, We appreciate the time. Always great 268 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: to have you on, great talking to you. Keep up 269 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 1: the great work and all the best to you and 270 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: everyone in the Cincinnati Police Force. We appreciate what you 271 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 1: do and stay safe out there. Brother. We're talking to 272 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: you again soon. 273 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 2: Great Dan, thanks for having me. Thank you. 274 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: There you go. Ken Cober the head of the FOP 275 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: here in Cincinnati. He always appreciate his time.