1 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: An hour two. 2 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,799 Speaker 2: It's when the city's news talk. Hey I'm eleven thirty 3 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 2: one oh three five FM. 4 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: You know I have a start. 5 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 2: Let me see if I can find it really quick. 6 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 2: I do this every single year when I get to 7 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 2: the last week continuing the broadcast from the sixty five 8 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 2: to one carpet next day install studios. When I get 9 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 2: to the last week before I go on vacation, I usually, 10 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 2: and this happens every single year, I usually have a 11 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 2: larger stack of what I call evergreen stories I than 12 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 2: I typically do. These are stories that they're not gonna 13 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 2: age right, and I can basically, you know, if I 14 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 2: don't cover them one day, I can cover them a 15 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 2: different day. 16 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. They're not timely, That's what I'm trying 17 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: to say. 18 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 2: So typically I'm like, you know what, I'm just gonna 19 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 2: cover all the stuff I haven't covered yet. 20 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go through that stack. 21 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 2: Inevitably, something happens that there's too much news and that 22 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 2: doesn't end up occurring. So I do have some items 23 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 2: that I may get you. I'll throw this one in 24 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 2: here though real quick. 25 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 1: Three eye atlas. Remember that are you familiar? 26 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 2: Do you have any idea what I'm talking about, Brett, 27 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 2: Hopefully not asteroids again. Well it is okay, ease out. 28 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 2: The mysterious interstellar object flying through our Solar System is 29 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 2: apparently changing colors as it hurdles towards its closest pointed 30 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 2: to Earth. Some are certain that it could in fact. 31 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 1: Be an alien spaceship heading our way. 32 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 2: Three Eye Atlas has already come quite close to Earth 33 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 2: once before, and it's been snapped by some of our 34 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 2: most up to date space satellites. However, one scientist continues 35 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 2: to say that the object is nothing natural and could 36 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 2: instead be a potential spaceship from another galaxy. I was 37 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 2: following this a lot more closely a couple of weeks 38 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 2: back when it was making its way around the Sun. 39 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 2: I kind of lost interest in it. The theoretical physicist 40 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 2: to Avi Lobe has been convinced that three I at 41 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 2: List is not a simple comment hurtling through space through 42 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 2: our Solar System, and stead he believes it could in 43 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 2: fact be a form of transportation from an alien species 44 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 2: scoping out planets. It's all really fascinating to watch. It's 45 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 2: a comment, it's not a spaceship. This guy's grab quite 46 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 2: a bit of attention, and. 47 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: It has made for really interesting commentary. 48 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 2: But apparently, though it's finally getting close to Earth, this 49 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 2: is what we've all been waiting for. Looking at a 50 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 2: new slew of images from satellites observing the object, AVI 51 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 2: said that the halo that surrounds the flying item is 52 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 2: turning different colors. This only adds to confusion about the 53 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:51,839 Speaker 2: nature of the article as it spins along in its 54 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 2: journey through our Solar system. Apparently, though, this is also 55 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 2: something that could end up taking place. Has the object 56 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 2: dispensed his heat as it travels through space and all 57 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 2: of that. So anyway, if we get I'll tell you, 58 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 2: I'll tell you this much. If it's confirmed that this 59 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 2: ends up being an alien spacecraft, while I'm on vacation, 60 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 2: I'll do a bonus podcast from home to talk about it. 61 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 2: Just just want to let you know, just want to 62 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 2: I want to go and do want to go and 63 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:25,679 Speaker 2: do my part, all right, got a lot of immigration 64 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 2: items that I want to get into. 65 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: Going to date. 66 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 2: A detainee ends up leaving in an ambulance after an 67 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 2: ice rate in Chan has to We wouldn't have these 68 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 2: problems if it wasn't for the activist postal workers are 69 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 2: rallying against the ICE raids. 70 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: We have a principle an. 71 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 2: He died in public schools who has decided they're going 72 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 2: to suspend students who engage in First Amendment free speech 73 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 2: about ICE in order to protect the feelings of illegal aliens. 74 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 2: That's according to a post from Crime Watch Minneapolis. So 75 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 2: I want to get to these stories, but there's a 76 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 2: few items to sort of start off this conversation that 77 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 2: go back to last week. First off, this has disappeared 78 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 2: from the news, and justifiably so. 79 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: Augsburg University is offering a. 80 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 2: Dramatically different account than the US Department of Homeland Security 81 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:23,919 Speaker 2: about what transpired during the weekend arrest last weekend, not 82 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 2: this past weekend, but the weekend before of a criminal 83 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 2: illegal alien, registered sex offender by ICE agents in a 84 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 2: campus parking lot. So Alpha News ended up talking exclusively 85 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 2: with the Augsburg Department of Public Safety officer who was 86 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,679 Speaker 2: on the scene and witness firsthand what took place, saying 87 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 2: it was Augsburg's staff, not ICE agents, who escalated the situation. 88 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 2: And this is the problem is that you get this 89 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 2: upfront reporting mostly covering the activists that are causing all 90 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 2: of the problems that are making these already tense situations 91 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 2: of ICE agents lawfully carrying out and executing warrants of 92 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 2: arrest over individuals who have broken the law. You have 93 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 2: bogus information that's put out about the background of the 94 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 2: individuals being arrested, and then when the truth comes forward, 95 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 2: it just gets ignored. In a statement posted on his website, 96 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 2: Augsburg said the campus was deeply shaken by what it 97 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 2: described as aggressive tactics by ICE agents. Department of Homeland 98 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 2: Security confirmed the arrested individual, Heyesius Saucido Portio, calling him 99 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 2: a criminal, illegal alien, a registered sex offender, and someone 100 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 2: with a prior DWI arrest. You know, just the kind 101 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 2: of person that democrats love to go out and defend 102 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 2: by protesting in below zero temperatures. According to the Augsburg 103 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 2: Department of Public Safety officer who was present and spoke 104 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 2: to Alphinus on the condition of anonymity, ICE apprehended Sacido 105 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 2: Portillo in an outdoor campus parking lot. He said security 106 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 2: responded immediately because this fact had been watching ICE vehicles 107 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 2: entered on surveillance cameras, and that two ICE officials already 108 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 2: had the suspect in handcuffs. 109 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 3: Whin. 110 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 2: The school administrator, identified by the officer as the director 111 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 2: of Resident Wife, Lee Hoover, arrived with campus security. She 112 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 2: wasn't going to let them put the person into the car. 113 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 2: To the security officer of Hoover, there was a refusal 114 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 2: to do that. She said, We're not getting out of 115 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 2: the way. We're not going to cooperate. No, I'm gonna 116 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 2: venture against the Director of Resident Wife, Leah Hoover was 117 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 2: unaware of the background of this criminal, illegal alien, registered 118 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 2: sex offender, someone that had a prior DWI. 119 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: Does it matter though, I mean, would it have mattered? 120 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 2: Or is the message in the narrative more important than 121 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:59,919 Speaker 2: holding criminals accountable for their actions. The officer said a 122 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 2: showed identification badges that showed they were federal officers, but 123 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 2: Hoover immediately began demanding a warrant and insisting that they 124 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 2: could not take the student. He said, Hoover instructed campus 125 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 2: security to block ICE, something he said directly violates policy. 126 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 2: Our job is never to fight law enforcement. Ever, he said, 127 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 2: they were being directed by somebody who didn't have the 128 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 2: right to direct them. 129 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 4: To do that. 130 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 2: He says that's when a second ICE vehicle arrived and 131 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 2: a supervisor approached Hoover with documents. He had a folder 132 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 2: with some paperwork he brought over. It was an ICE warrant. However, 133 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 2: Hoover still refused to allow the agents to leave with 134 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 2: the suspect. The officer said the situation was also escalating 135 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 2: because a masked man who arrived with Hoover was shouting 136 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 2: profanities at ICE officers throughout the encounter. Again, this is 137 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 2: the perfect example of the activists that are causing the problems, 138 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 2: not ICE agents. At the time, the security officer said 139 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 2: he didn't know who the man was, but immediately sensed 140 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 2: that he would escalate the situation. 141 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: Who is this guy? He's going to be a problem. 142 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,239 Speaker 2: Do I have to get rid of him, he said, 143 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 2: He asked Hoover, who reportedly replied, Oh, it's fine, that's 144 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 2: my husband. 145 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: The story takes a turn. 146 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 2: He's not staff, he's not a student, the officer said, 147 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 2: but for some reason he came with and was just 148 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 2: a complete agitator. The security officer said ICE repeatedly ordered 149 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 2: everyone to back up so agents could leave, but Hoover 150 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 2: and her husband refused, and he said that the resistance 151 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 2: is what triggered the arrival of a third ICE team. 152 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 2: And again, none of these other teams would be necessary 153 00:08:55,880 --> 00:09:00,319 Speaker 2: if it wasn't for the activists, for the school, of. 154 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: For the husband. 155 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 2: And yet this was the one of the people, This 156 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 2: was one of the individuals apprehended by ICE that your 157 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:17,079 Speaker 2: Democrat representatives, your Democrat elected officials were talking about the 158 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 2: governor Tim Walls talking about citizens. 159 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: Are being snapped up by ICE. 160 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 2: And then a third round of people came in and 161 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 2: that's when they came out with their guns and were 162 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 2: pushed out of the way. They weren't asking any more. 163 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 2: The officers said, so do you see the do you 164 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 2: see the progression here? You basically had one group of 165 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 2: ICE officials showing up in one vehicle. They face opposition 166 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 2: from the director of Resident Life and her husband. 167 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 1: More people show up, requiring more. 168 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 2: I sations to go and back up the existing ICE 169 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 2: agents as they refuse to allow ICE to go and 170 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 2: take this person away. 171 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: Never would have been a problem. 172 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 2: You just stayed out of harm's way, the officer said. 173 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 2: ICE was left with no choice but to push through 174 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 2: with weapons drawn to complete the arrest. 175 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: They should have been allowed to leave. 176 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 2: They had a right to leave, he said, adding that 177 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 2: he was ashamed of how Augsburg's staff handled the situation 178 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 2: as not professional. Part of me was embarrassed to be 179 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 2: there to see stuff like that, he stated. The campus 180 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 2: atmosphere afterward. Treating the confrontation as heroic made it worse. 181 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 2: Once everybody left, there was this feeling around campus that 182 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 2: administration and security were heroes. 183 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: We stood up to the feds. We protected this student. 184 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 2: But in my mind, to the anonymous official from Augsburg, 185 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 2: we didn't protect anybody. We endangered people by allowing this 186 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 2: to escalate. Alf News reached out to Augsburg a University 187 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 2: and to Hoover for comment. The university informed Alphin News 188 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 2: that Hoover is on vacation to not be reached. Augsburg 189 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 2: director of public relations and internal Communication did not respond 190 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 2: to the request from Alpha News. And they're repeated inquiries. 191 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 5: We're to all ice protests yourself there, Hey, instead of 192 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 5: protest nice next time you get pulled over for the 193 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 5: cops or something, why do you press protest. 194 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: In their face through get a speed t cart taken? 195 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:26,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, why'd you go protest? 196 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: You know, your own cribs instead of somebody else. 197 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 4: Have a nice day. 198 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 6: These the school administration person these people are mentally damage. 199 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 1: You're not wrong here and think that we're not. 200 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 3: Going to cooperate. 201 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. 202 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 6: You can't interfere, you can't get in the way, you 203 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 6: can't pull people out of vehicles, you can't physically engage 204 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 6: with ICE officers. 205 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: You can't do any of that. It's against the law. 206 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 3: So much for law and order. 207 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 2: These it and again, ICE could easily go and hold 208 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 2: these other individuals accountable, and they don't, and probably for 209 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 2: good reason. 210 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: They are obstructing justice. 211 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 2: And I know there's an argument to be made where 212 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 2: everybody should be held accountable in these circumstances. 213 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: I get that, but ICE also has a job to do. 214 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 2: They're trying to keep people safe and are probably concerned 215 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 2: that if they go and start arresting individuals like this 216 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 2: director of Resident Life, if she is indeed obstructing, it's 217 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 2: going to end up adding fuel to the fire in 218 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 2: the moment, and charges that will most likely be dropped 219 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 2: by whoever the attorney is handling the case. 220 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 4: Now. 221 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 2: They have gone so far as to detain individuals who 222 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 2: have really been egregious by their standards and obstructed what 223 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 2: they are doing, but they've been letting those people go 224 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 2: to probably for the same reason why waste to tax 225 00:12:56,440 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 2: payer dollars in paperwork over these individuals when their core 226 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 2: mission right now is to arrest those here illegally that 227 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 2: have committed other crimes. We'll get into more of this 228 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 2: coming up, including as reported by bringing Me the News, 229 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 2: I Dinah High School will discipline students making light of 230 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:19,479 Speaker 2: ice threats. In a recent email, the principal, Paul Petzel, 231 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 2: said the school will enforce discipline up to an including 232 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 2: suspension for students making comments. We'll get to this coming 233 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 2: up on Twin City's News Talk Am eleven thirty and 234 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 2: one oh three five FM. Twin City's News Talk Am 235 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 2: eleven thirty one oh three five FM. You know, when 236 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 2: I figure out that I've officially landed in the sweet 237 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 2: spot relating to the Christmas spirit, that's when I actually 238 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 2: feel like I have to give myself a break from 239 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:08,959 Speaker 2: Christmas music. 240 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,439 Speaker 1: It happened this morning, like I had enough. 241 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 2: No, I mean, I'll go back to it, you know, 242 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 2: I mean, I'll go I'll go back to Christmas music. 243 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 2: But there was a moment where I was like, you know, 244 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 2: I just don't want to I don't want to hear 245 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 2: Christmas music, right at this moment, and that hadn't been 246 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 2: like that the past few weeks. 247 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: I know you know you're fascinating to talk to. Are 248 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: you big on the Christmas music, Bret? Sometimes I got 249 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: to be in the right zone for it. Though I 250 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: love Christmas, No, I love I love Christmas time, It's fantastic, 251 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: I don't love this. 252 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 2: The principal of you Dinah High School says that it 253 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 2: will pursue disciplinary action against students making lights of actions 254 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 2: by US Immigrations and Customs Enforcement. I'm working off the 255 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 2: version here from Bring Me the News and an email 256 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 2: to students in their family. 257 00:14:57,800 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: The Dinah High School principal. 258 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 2: Paul Petzel said the school will enforce discipline up to 259 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 2: and including suspension for students who make comments making light 260 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 2: of immigration threats or referencing ICE in ways that cause 261 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 2: fear or humiliation. Let me just go ahead and read 262 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 2: you the letter I do want to share with you 263 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 2: from Caro Levin. Postal workers are rallying against ICE. I'll 264 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 2: tell you why here in a moment, but I want 265 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 2: to give you an opportunity to respond to this before 266 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 2: we get to other Immigrations and Customs Enforcement news. A 267 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 2: letter from Dyna Public Schools. A principal says this High 268 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 2: School families, I want to speak directly and proactively about 269 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 2: the culture we are committed to creating at Dyna High School. 270 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 2: As we continue to grow as a community, it is 271 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 2: essential that we are clear about the expectations we hold 272 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 2: for language and behavior that honor the dignity of every student. 273 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 2: That is a bold statement right now. There honor the 274 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 2: dignity of every student. What if a student acts in 275 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 2: an undignified way? Who determines that? That's the bigger question 276 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 2: in this making lights. The letter goes on to say 277 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 2: of immigration threats or referencing ice in ways that can 278 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 2: cause fear or humiliation is a serious offense and not 279 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 2: representative of our core values. Enough with the core values nonsense, 280 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 2: There is no core value. There is no collective core 281 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 2: value to the very reason why, in my opinion, this 282 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 2: Paul Psil, principally DYNA Public Schools is writing this, he's, 283 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 2: you know, referencing the diversity. The core values are incredibly different. 284 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 2: Behavior of this nature fundamentally violates our commitment to providing 285 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 2: a safe and equitable other buzzword learning environment. Free from harassment, Wow, 286 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 2: free from harassment. 287 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 1: So is that all harassment? 288 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 2: By the way, does that apply to criticism of any kind? 289 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 2: What if students are engaged in a conversation outside of 290 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 2: you know, when school was in session in the wake 291 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 2: of Avatar fire and ash, and they have a difference 292 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 2: of opinion over the quality of James Cameron's latest blockbusting, 293 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 2: well potential blockbuster film. 294 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: Does that apply to you know, I'm criticism. 295 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:42,640 Speaker 2: If somebody were to call a student another name because 296 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 2: they don't agree with their assessment of a film, I'm 297 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 2: using a ridiculous example. 298 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:50,199 Speaker 1: But that's what this is. Ridiculous. 299 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 2: Such language and behaviors directly contradict He died in a 300 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:57,120 Speaker 2: public school's vision and mission of what we expect from 301 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 2: our students. If this type of behavior occurs, we will 302 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 2: honor the discipline policy and move forward with the consequences 303 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 2: up to and including suspension. Our responsibility is to protect 304 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 2: every student's right to feel safe, respected, and valued at school. 305 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: Wow. 306 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 2: So if anybody says anything and another student chooses, because 307 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 2: these are all choices, you're getting offended. You're not feeling safe, 308 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 2: you're not feeling respected, not feeling valued. That is a 309 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 2: choice that you are making to feel that way. Somebody 310 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 2: may do something to bring about you making that choice, 311 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:43,919 Speaker 2: but it is indeed still a choice. So does that 312 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 2: include all students who don't feel safe, respected, or valued 313 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 2: at school? Because if that's the case, you could potentially 314 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 2: have a lot of students that could be complaining about 315 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 2: a host of different issues and something that somebody else's says. 316 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 2: And based off of the infinite wisdom of Paul Patesel 317 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 2: the principle dine in public school, apparently there's going to 318 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 2: be a lot of students getting suspended. 319 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: And again who decides that? Is he the cizar of 320 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: speech for all. 321 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 2: The schools, and he will determine who does or doesn't 322 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,679 Speaker 2: get suspended based off of their language that may or 323 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:25,919 Speaker 2: may not be inappropriate or may not a line with 324 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 2: his belief of what the core values are free from harassment, 325 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 2: What about free speech. 326 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 1: And all of this? 327 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:34,719 Speaker 2: Is that not relevant orre we just tossing that right 328 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 2: out the window. We'll get to your talkbacks on this 329 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 2: in just a moment. Also, we'll share with you despite 330 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 2: bitter cold temperatures on Sunday, postal workers are protesting the 331 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 2: ice raids. They're upset because ice is staging its operations 332 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 2: on postal property. Last time I checked, the post office 333 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 2: is run by the federal government, in which case it's 334 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 2: another federal government entity using. 335 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: Parking lots that are run by the federal government. 336 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll get to that. Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison 337 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,880 Speaker 2: says ICE can make agreement with county commissioners, not sheriffs. 338 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 2: Some sheriffs are none too happy about that. This is 339 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 2: all coming up in the next segment of the show 340 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 2: here on Twin Cities News Talk AM eleven thirty and. 341 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: One three five FM. Do not go Anywhere. 342 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 2: The principal lovy Dinah High School says it will pursue 343 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 2: disciplinary action against students making light of actions by US 344 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 2: Immigrations and Customs Enforcement. I don't know about you here 345 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 2: on Twin Cities News Talk as we continue the show 346 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 2: for a Monday from the six five to one carpet 347 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 2: plus next day install studios. But that certainly does not 348 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 2: seem to be a statement made from an individual who 349 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 2: is a champion of the free speech in this Paul Putzel, 350 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 2: the principal ofviyd Dinah High schools, let's get to some 351 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,479 Speaker 2: of your thoughts and we'll well also turn our attention 352 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:06,959 Speaker 2: over to the postal workers rallying in Minneapolis against ice raids. 353 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 4: I'm not sure how most people feel about it, but 354 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 4: I'm I'm of the belief that these kids, that these students, 355 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 4: they're miners. They don't have rights the same as like 356 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 4: majors do people over eighteen. So you start talking about 357 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 4: free speech and public school and all that clap, and 358 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 4: I'm not sure I want to make that argument because 359 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 4: kids are kids and they need to be told what 360 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 4: to do, and more of I'm more of do it 361 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 4: could I sted soul kind of guy. 362 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 2: Free speech does absolutely also cover miners as well. Now 363 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 2: there are varying degrees wherein it's balanced when it comes 364 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 2: to things like government interest or schools and education. But 365 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 2: this sort of mentality that the principle is perpetuating here 366 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 2: regardless of that fact, I mean, this really does call 367 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 2: into question what is even free speech if the whole 368 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 2: point that he is making here an environment free from harassment, 369 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 2: safe and equitable learning. Let me give you another example 370 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 2: here of how you could frame this a different way. 371 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 2: You've had students that have been walking out of class, 372 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 2: walking away from school in protest of what's been taking 373 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 2: place with ICE. Well, what if you're another student and 374 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 2: you know full well that these arrests that are taking 375 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 2: place are taking criminals off the street, even beyond them 376 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 2: being illegal. And so you have a handful of your 377 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 2: fellow students that are decrying and chanting against ICE, a 378 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 2: group which use supports and you feel is making the 379 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 2: community safe, and that gives you a chilling effect that 380 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 2: makes you not feel valued. Are you then allowed to 381 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 2: go and complain and are those students going to be 382 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 2: disciplined for making you feel that way? There in lines 383 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 2: the problem with rediculous band aids like this, Let's go here. 384 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:11,640 Speaker 6: Respecting every student's right to feel safe and respected. Let 385 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 6: me see, does he support men in girls boys and 386 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 6: girls sports? Does he let people choose their bathrooms based 387 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 6: on their gender identity, not on their physical gender, not 388 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 6: on their biological gender? Somehow I suspect that in those instances. 389 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 3: He makes exceptions. 390 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 6: This superintendent, if he. 391 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 3: Act, that's mark from your brighton honor. 392 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 7: The discipline policy, call the thing what it is. You're 393 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 7: going to break out the jack boots. You're going to 394 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 7: take away free speech. You are only allowed to have 395 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:57,959 Speaker 7: certain opinions in Adanah High School, apparently call these things 396 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 7: what they are. Thank you. 397 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:06,479 Speaker 3: I don't know. The principal's letter offended me. So what 398 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 3: are we going to do about that? 399 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 2: Well, you're going to leave a talk back here on 400 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 2: Twin Cities News Talk and these are brought to you 401 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,360 Speaker 2: from the iHeartRadio app by Lindahl Realty. But you're right, 402 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 2: if you're choosing to be offended, that's a choice that 403 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 2: you're making. And the president that this principle is putting forward, 404 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 2: it is so ignorant, lacking common sense and critical thinking, 405 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 2: opening yourself up for lawsuits over who is going to 406 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 2: decide which type of language is appropriate and which type 407 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 2: of language is int appropriate. Consider a scenario, two students 408 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 2: are talking. They have different viewpoints on the issue of immigration, 409 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 2: and because of that, one student goes and says, listen, 410 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 2: I absolutely support what ICE is doing. They're coming in, 411 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 2: I support their going and arresting individuals. And another student 412 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 2: just goes, I completely disagree with that. You're making me 413 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 2: uncomfortable that you feel that way based off of what 414 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 2: this principle said the supporter of ICE in this circumstance, 415 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 2: because of how they made the other student feel. In 416 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:23,239 Speaker 2: just eight but nine conversation sharing opinion, because neither of 417 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 2: these students have any power whatsoever to change the dynamics 418 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 2: of what is taking place via the lawful warrants that 419 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 2: are being executed by federal law enforcement officials. It is 420 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 2: just a conversation, but based off of what this principle 421 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 2: put forward, the. 422 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: Student who supports ICE could face suspension. 423 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 2: I don't want to see this happen to any student, 424 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 2: but my gosh, there's a part of me that wants 425 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 2: to see this happen, just to watch the chaos that 426 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 2: would ensue if he actually made good on this threat. 427 00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 2: Speaking of threats. Postal workers very upset and despite the 428 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 2: bitter cold temperatures from Caroleven on Sunday, not from Carolevin, 429 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 2: just saying I'm the storage from Caroleven. 430 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: Despite the bitter cold. 431 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 2: Temperatures on Sunday, postal workers and other community members in Minneapolis, 432 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 2: they rallied against ICE because they've been using their facilities 433 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 2: as staging operations. Here's a bit of the coverage from 434 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 2: Caralevin here on Twin Cities News Talk. 435 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 8: Postal workers who work at this powder Horn post office 436 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 8: and elsewhere in the Twin Cities are marching through South 437 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 8: Minneapolis and demanding that ICE no longer use these grounds 438 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 8: to stage any operations. 439 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 9: Another ice cold day in Minnesota isn't stopping these Minnesotans 440 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 9: from stepping outside to say ice agents are not welcome peted. 441 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: Most are postal workers who shared. 442 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 9: These photos and videos with us of what they say 443 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 9: are ICE agents using the Lake Street and powder Horn 444 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 9: Post Office parking lots to stage operations over the past 445 00:26:56,080 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 9: two weeks. This test was led by Branch nine of 446 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 9: the National Association of Letter Carriers in Minneapolis. 447 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 10: Powder Horn Post Office. They arrested somebody right in the 448 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 10: middle of where when we're bringing back our mail vans 449 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 10: with tended windows and body armor and guns. And it's 450 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 10: not you know, we shouldn't have to work in that 451 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 10: kind of environment. We want people to know that we 452 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 10: are not working with ice. 453 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: We are in support of our. 454 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 2: What kind of environment. There's vehicles in your parking lot? 455 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 2: You're not being targeted? Is that enough just to have 456 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 2: vehicles around? And the vehicles aren't even I mean maybe 457 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 2: some of them are, but the vehicles that I've seen, 458 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 2: they've just been like black SUVs. I mean, there's not 459 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 2: like a tank sitting there in the Post Office parking lot. 460 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: Is that enough though, to cause you concerned? 461 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 2: You know what, all those ICE agents should be suspended, 462 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 2: I think now, because they've made all of these United 463 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 2: States Postal Service workers feel uncomfortable. 464 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 10: Immigrant coworkers and neighbors, and you know, we want to 465 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 10: see a society free of secret police. 466 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 9: The Department of Online Security tells NBC that ICE agents 467 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 9: have arrested more than four hundred people in Minnesota since 468 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 9: December first, when they began Operation Metro Surge in the 469 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 9: Twin Cities in Minneapolis right Cotaine. 470 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: It's not a secret police. Everybody knows who they are. 471 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 2: And again, that was a story from Caro Levin the 472 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 2: United States, Polstal Service is operated by the federal government, So. 473 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 1: Too bad, so sad. 474 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 2: Besides, Trump is actually doing those being arrested a favor. 475 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 2: I don't know why people don't view it this way. 476 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 2: Think about it for a moment. Those that are being 477 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 2: arrested by ICE, they're getting a free ride home for 478 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 2: the holidays. And because they're getting a free ride home 479 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 2: for the holidays, they're going to save a lot of 480 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 2: money on shipping presents. 481 00:28:55,920 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: It's a Christmas miracle. Any reason for these idiots to 482 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: go and protest. I just. 483 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 2: Speaking of which last week this story. As immigration enforcement 484 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 2: activity continues to surge in the Twin Cities, so has 485 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 2: the number of people mobilizing to observe and document those operations. 486 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 2: Groups that help ice observers say interest in their training 487 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 2: programs has grown as enforcement actions increase in frequency and speed. 488 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, people like to make money too. 489 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 2: Ryan Perez, he's with the Immigrant Defense Network and. 490 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: COPAL, I don't know what COPAL is, says. 491 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 2: The reality is most enforcements are over within a couple 492 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 2: of minutes, and so when you have people on every 493 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 2: single block in these Twin Cities and across Minnesota who 494 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 2: are trained to observe, they're able to respond in time 495 00:29:55,760 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 2: and do what exactly? Watch do you need training to observe? 496 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 2: I mean, I didn't teach my kids how to look 497 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 2: at stuff. It just kind of happened. They didn't need 498 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 2: me sort of formal training on that front. They're agitators. 499 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 2: They're making the issue worse. Perez said the organization has 500 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 2: trained three thousand people so far. He said the goal 501 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 2: of those observers is to document what they see and 502 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 2: serve as a visible presence during enforcement activity. And not 503 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 2: to impede on federal activity. Yeah, well, you know you 504 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 2: haven't done a very good job of that so far. 505 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 2: Our goal is to document, to pay attention, to document, 506 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 2: to serve as a presence there. 507 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 3: Okay. 508 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 2: Observers aren't only affiliated with organized groups. Neighbors are also 509 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 2: coordinating among themselves, sharing information and responding when enforcement activity 510 00:30:56,280 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 2: is reported nearby. Andrea Morris set Grizzini, a Burnsville residence, says, 511 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 2: if we hear about something that is you know, we 512 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 2: hear that there's activity in our neighborhoods, that we share 513 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 2: that information. Grizzini is part of a group of citizens 514 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 2: who communicate through group chats to alert one another to 515 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 2: enforcement activity, including an operation in Burnsville that happened earlier 516 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 2: in the week. It's a way of bearing witness in 517 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 2: these times. She said, I seem to be creating the 518 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 2: most fear and intimidation among our neighbors. I thought cops 519 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 2: were the biggest bad guys, and why aren't they out 520 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 2: there doing the same thing when it comes to cops 521 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 2: going and arresting criminal sense just questions. Flannery Clark says 522 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 2: she's been organizing parents and neighborhoods in South Minneapolis after 523 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 2: hearing concerns from families about sending their children to school. 524 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 2: My son attends a very diverse as South Minneapolis school. 525 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 2: It has a high immigrant to population, and probably about 526 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 2: a month ago, we started hearing rumblings that some families 527 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 2: were pretty scared to send their kids to school. Well, 528 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 2: are they here illegally? Because if they are, then they 529 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 2: really have only themselves to blame. If you made a 530 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 2: bad decision as a parent to be here illegally and 531 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 2: have children here while you're illegal, then that's on you. 532 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 2: Clark organizes volunteers to take shifts during school drop off 533 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 2: and pick up a community events. Participants stand on nearby 534 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 2: corners with visible whistles, which she said are meant to 535 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 2: reassure reassure families. It's all again, it's all just theatrics. 536 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 2: It's all just make believe, don't worry, You'll feel better. 537 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 2: Why because I got this whistle and I'm more than 538 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 2: happy to blow it for you. If there's parents or 539 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 2: community members standing in the school, we have visible whistles 540 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 2: to reassure them that that's why we're here. Well, sir, 541 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 2: you know, I'm sure that helps I'm sure that brings 542 00:32:55,120 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 2: about just a lot of ease within the community. Whistles. 543 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 2: You know who's really benefiting from all of this. It's 544 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 2: a big whistle. I said in a statement the end 545 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 2: of last week. There's a growing trend of what they 546 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 2: call of what they call quote agitators and rioters that 547 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 2: are obstructing and assaulting law enforcement. Yeah, it's these individuals. 548 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 7: It's hilarious on the news watching these observers. 549 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 3: Interact with ICE. 550 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 7: They all have their cell phone out, believing that. 551 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 11: Their video is going to change the course of history. 552 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's a good point that you're making, because 553 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 2: that's what a lot of this is. There is a 554 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:46,719 Speaker 2: desperation out there by these activists to end up with 555 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 2: another George Floyd moment. And I believe that that the 556 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 2: people that have been putting themselves in harm's way are 557 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 2: attempting to do that for that very reason. They are 558 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:05,719 Speaker 2: hoping that ICE officials overstep their bounds. And it speaks 559 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 2: to the danger that they're creating beyond what ICE is 560 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 2: doing within these communities. I'll keep saying that they are 561 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 2: making the situation worse. 562 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:21,399 Speaker 12: Curious as to whether these ICE arrest observers have other 563 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 12: jobs or are they getting paid to observe. 564 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:27,720 Speaker 3: I'm wondering why. 565 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 12: They're available at all hours to just show up when 566 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:31,879 Speaker 12: they get the call. 567 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 13: You're right, John, there is no talking to these people. 568 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 13: There's no getting anything into their thick skulls. It will 569 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 13: never be understood by them or accepted until one of 570 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 13: their children gets molested or murdered or taken or dies 571 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 13: a fentanyl or something like that because they can't grasp. 572 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 13: But they're not that bright, and it's just pathetic and 573 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 13: what a whoosy hey, mister post office man man opu 574 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 13: little women wow. 575 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 14: Jar Bill from Florida say, the only secret thing that's 576 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 14: out there is how the postal service can be so 577 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 14: inefficient and not get their work done in a timely manner. 578 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,479 Speaker 3: That's the secret I'm trying to figure out. 579 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 15: Great day to you, John, I just realized that I 580 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 15: drive a black vehicle with mostly tinted out windows. 581 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: Is that why my postal carrier. 582 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 15: Can't get it right when they see it sitting in 583 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:33,799 Speaker 15: my driveway? Is because they're uncomfortable marsnowflake behavior on a 584 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:34,840 Speaker 15: twenty below. 585 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 3: Day docu lator. 586 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,840 Speaker 2: Just want to mention too, that I would venture I 587 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 2: guess that not all postal employees feel the way that 588 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 2: this group of individuals did. I just had the laugh 589 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 2: of them complaining that Ice was staging in their parking lot. 590 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 2: Do you want to go and blame anybody, Go and 591 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 2: blame Minnieappos Man Baby may or Mom, Jeans, Jacob Fry, 592 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 2: go and blame the Minnie Apples, Police. 593 00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 1: Jeeve, Brian O'Hara. 594 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,839 Speaker 2: They're the individuals who's said that Ice couldn't go and 595 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 2: use any of the parking that's already available. And just 596 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 2: like I said on the show, Ice is going to 597 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 2: find another place to go on stage, and so hey, 598 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,760 Speaker 2: why not? This is government property, We'll use government property. 599 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 2: And now, of course you have individuals that are upset 600 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 2: about that. People are also upset about this. We have 601 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 2: one more item, but before we turn our attention over 602 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 2: to fraud, and there's much to say coming up in 603 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 2: the eight o'clock hour over Walls creating his new cya 604 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,479 Speaker 2: bogus not going to do anything joke of a fraud 605 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:36,839 Speaker 2: prevention program. Yes, that's how I really feel, saying I 606 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 2: can just fix these things, don't I don't think you can. 607 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 2: Here's one more item of a note, though, on the 608 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 2: immigration front, Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison shared a legal 609 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 2: opinion that clarified which local authorities can enter into what 610 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 2: is called the two eighty seven g Agreements with ICE 611 00:36:56,080 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 2: and two eighty seven g agreements allows ICE to deputize 612 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 2: deputize local authorities to enforce immigration laws, but does not 613 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:10,720 Speaker 2: allow detentions based solely on ICE detainers. The Attorney General's 614 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:14,840 Speaker 2: office stated that only county boards of Commissioners, not sheriffs, 615 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 2: can enter into these two eighty seven g agreements. Listen 616 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,919 Speaker 2: all this does, though it makes the community less safe, 617 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 2: it continues to undermine faith in our government institutions as well. 618 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,400 Speaker 2: The opinion clarifies that two to eighty seven g agreements 619 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,920 Speaker 2: do not authorize Minnesota law enforcement to detain individuals solely 620 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 2: based on ICE detainers, that they must comply with a 621 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 2: state arrest laws. So the Malax County Sheriff, Kyle Burton 622 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 2: spoke to this very issue last week with Liz Collin 623 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 2: and her Weekly Alpha News of podcasts pushing back on 624 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,320 Speaker 2: this opinion. Here's a bit of that interview. 625 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:02,359 Speaker 3: You know, I think failing to prepare is preparing to fail. 626 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 5: I've always said that and so for for us, it 627 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 5: is more just preparation and anything we can do to 628 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,400 Speaker 5: partner with our federal partners to make the county safer, 629 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:12,879 Speaker 5: I think is a good thing. 630 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,359 Speaker 16: So there are three types of two eight seven g 631 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,839 Speaker 16: agreements that you can enter into. You're in what's called 632 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 16: the task force model. Explain how that works. 633 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, so you have three agreements you can enter into. 634 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,360 Speaker 5: You've got it like a jail model, which mostly involves 635 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,799 Speaker 5: detaining of folks that are here illegally. 636 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,359 Speaker 3: You've got to warrant, a warrant officer. 637 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,359 Speaker 5: Model, and then you have the task force model, which 638 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,880 Speaker 5: is what we're in, and that's more of a collaboration 639 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 5: between US and ICE agents. It allows us to go 640 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:49,360 Speaker 5: out in the field and assist them in apprehending certain 641 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 5: individuals who they deemed to be kind of the most dangerous. 642 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:56,799 Speaker 5: And you've heard, I'm sure representatives from DHS talk about 643 00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 5: our priority. 644 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,040 Speaker 3: Right now is the worst first as far as. 645 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,360 Speaker 5: Is how to tackle this problem we have in this 646 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 5: country of the amount of people that are here I 647 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 5: legally and certainly the worst source would be those who 648 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 5: are here not only illegally, but have also committed you know, 649 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,440 Speaker 5: violent or atous crimes while they're in the country illegally. 650 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:16,280 Speaker 16: You know, sure if we were able to a company 651 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,479 Speaker 16: ICE on a recent ride along, you could clearly see 652 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,600 Speaker 16: how these partnerships are so valuable. In many states there 653 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 16: is that cooperation, not the case in Minnesota, but you 654 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 16: could see how these agents are basically then forced out 655 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 16: into the field, whether it's homes or businesses, rather than 656 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 16: just doing a pickup from the local jail. You have 657 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 16: to kind of wonder that this is our attorney general 658 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,799 Speaker 16: in Minnesota, our top law enforcement officer. I mean, that's 659 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 16: what the attorney general of any state is. So why 660 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:48,360 Speaker 16: would they be against something like this that really centers 661 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:49,240 Speaker 16: around safety. 662 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,399 Speaker 5: That's a great question, And you know, I think it's 663 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,439 Speaker 5: the attorney general and the governor of Minnesota have both 664 00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 5: been very much opposed to the president stats on legal immigration, 665 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,920 Speaker 5: cracking down on border security. I mean, our governor has 666 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 5: been quoted publicly referring to you know. 667 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:10,440 Speaker 3: ICE agents as the Gestapo. 668 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:14,799 Speaker 11: Donald Trump's modern dayga Escapo is scooping folks up off 669 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:18,360 Speaker 11: the streets. They're in unmarked bands, wearing masks, being shipped 670 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 11: off to foreign torture dungeons. No chance to mount of defense, 671 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 11: not even a chance to kiss the love one in Dubai, 672 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,400 Speaker 11: just wrapped up by massed agents, shoved into those bands 673 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:28,319 Speaker 11: and disappeared. 674 00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:32,279 Speaker 3: So, you know, when you have that kind of rhetoric being. 675 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:36,239 Speaker 5: Sent by top level officials such as the governor and 676 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 5: now the Attorney General, who is clearly not in support 677 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:42,440 Speaker 5: of this program, it's troubling. I mean their political party, 678 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 5: they're both Democrats. It's no secret has very much not 679 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,719 Speaker 5: been in support of, you know, the current administration's efforts 680 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 5: to secure the country. And the reality is the vast 681 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,319 Speaker 5: majority of America voted for this. 682 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,400 Speaker 2: And again that was from Liz Colin and Alpha News 683 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:04,440 Speaker 2: her weekly podcast, talking with Melax County Sheriff Kyle Burton 684 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 2: talking about Attorney General Keith Ellison's ordering of him not 685 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 2: to cooperate with Ice. Burton did refuse, by the way, 686 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,480 Speaker 2: as the post on X had said, and I completely agree, 687 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 2: this is what a real sheriff looks like, looks like, 688 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 2: this is what putting America first looks like. Probably my 689 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 2: biggest frustration with so many of the topics that we 690 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,400 Speaker 2: talk about on a daily basis is the fact that 691 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 2: doesn't have to be this way when it comes to 692 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:36,560 Speaker 2: illegal immigration. If we didn't have four years of Joe 693 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:41,080 Speaker 2: Biden allowing millions upon millions of individuals to come into 694 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 2: the country illegally, we wouldn't be in this position right now. 695 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:49,000 Speaker 2: We have laws on the books for a reason. For example, 696 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 2: you know, across the country federally, if you're here illegally, 697 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:57,600 Speaker 2: you're not supposed to be allowed to work. And yet 698 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 2: it happens people don't get held accountable. And then when 699 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,200 Speaker 2: you have law enforcement officials trying to hold people accountable, 700 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:05,800 Speaker 2: the opposition. 701 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:06,240 Speaker 1: That they face. 702 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:11,280 Speaker 2: You know, it used to be from the activist organizations, 703 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:17,719 Speaker 2: those that had their own motivations, power, influence, money to 704 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:22,360 Speaker 2: go and be champions of lawbreakers. Well now that's what 705 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,799 Speaker 2: the Democrat Party has turned into. If you allowed this 706 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 2: cross cooperation between our federal authorities and our local authorities, 707 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:35,320 Speaker 2: sheriff's office, local law enforcement, the community would be safer. 708 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:41,319 Speaker 2: These executions of lawful warrants and the arrest of criminals 709 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:46,680 Speaker 2: would happen faster. You would see less of a desire 710 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,760 Speaker 2: for people to come in here illegally or commit criminal 711 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:53,920 Speaker 2: behavior because they would be under the mindset appropriately so 712 00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,840 Speaker 2: that here in the United States we enforce our laws. 713 00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,000 Speaker 2: And yet what the Democrats do in sowing this division, 714 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:05,880 Speaker 2: this division, in disconnecting local law enforcement from federal law enforcement, 715 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,600 Speaker 2: it perpetuates the very idea of what I just mentioned. 716 00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 2: It tells the criminal, Hey, I got a whole party 717 00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,680 Speaker 2: that represents about half the country that is on my side, 718 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:25,880 Speaker 2: on the side of drug traffickers, child sex offenders, domestic abusers. 719 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,719 Speaker 2: So you tell me what motivates an individual more when 720 00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:31,879 Speaker 2: they're at that point where they're going to commit an 721 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,160 Speaker 2: active crime, the fact that they're going to get away 722 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:38,600 Speaker 2: with it, or that they know that law enforcement's going 723 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:42,080 Speaker 2: to hold them accountable makes it a heck of a 724 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:43,759 Speaker 2: lot easier to commit that crime. And you know, you 725 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,799 Speaker 2: have almost an entire political party that's going to go 726 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:52,080 Speaker 2: and defend you, or just turn the other way and 727 00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:56,439 Speaker 2: ignore what you're doing, which is exactly what happened here 728 00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,879 Speaker 2: with fraud in Minnesota. We will get to Governor Tim 729 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,920 Speaker 2: Wallason his press conference last week, his new fraud prevention program, 730 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:03,640 Speaker 2: and we have a. 731 00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:07,520 Speaker 1: Tzar, We have a Tzara fraud. We'll get to the details. 732 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,799 Speaker 2: Got a lot of audio from Tim Walls and we'll 733 00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,160 Speaker 2: hear from you in the iHeartRadio app. The talkback's brought 734 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,520 Speaker 2: to you by Lyndahl Realty. Next on Twinesday's News Talk