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Speaker 5: Hey, Happy Tuesday morning to you, and welcome to the

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Speaker 5: nine to noon radio show from the vast and ever

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Speaker 5: expanding and plush TCO Radio Studio as part of the

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Speaker 5: second to none Vikings Entertainment Network at Twin Cities Orthopedics

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Speaker 5: Performance Center. It's a Tco Tuesday for nine to noon,

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Speaker 5: and I'm Paul Allen Nordo produces Brett Blake Moore Guide's

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Speaker 5: The Great Ship Love Covenant from FM one hundred point

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Speaker 5: three KFAM And we begin with a question, how are

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Speaker 5: the Chicago Bears plus fourteen and the take give the

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Speaker 5: turnover differential? Well that's number one in the NFL, so

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Speaker 5: you know each week. Each game can can be defined

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Speaker 5: as snowflakes, where they're all the same but they're different,

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Speaker 5: Kevin O'Connell, head coach of the Minnesota Vikings, joining at

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Speaker 5: eleven am today, and he hits me with the Bears

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Speaker 5: have twenty takeaways. I'm like, what the Bears have twenty

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Speaker 5: takes which would include thirteen interceptions? All right, well, they

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Speaker 5: probably have given it away a lot, right, Well, no,

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Speaker 5: that's not the case either. Well what's their take give

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Speaker 5: It's plus fourteen. It's tops in the NFL. So then

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Speaker 5: they're leading sack guy Montes sweat as five and a

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Speaker 5: the NFL. He has four sacks. Those are their top

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Speaker 5: which means that you think rush to cover, rush and cover.

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Speaker 5: Holy cow, look at all the picks the Vikings had

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Speaker 5: last year to match all of the sacks they had. Well,

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Speaker 5: that's not the case either with the Chicago Bears. How

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Speaker 5: and turnover differential and good morning, good.

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Speaker 3: Morning, it's insane.

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Speaker 2: And you mentioned the sacks and Gervon Dexter Senior and

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Speaker 2: Gardner Johnson being on the team for like two games,

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Speaker 2: he has three sacks. So just kind of just how

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Speaker 2: doing it. So, for instance, in their three losses, the Bears,

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Speaker 2: shocking to some and head scratching to most, are six

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Speaker 2: They're averaging more than three for their defense every single

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Speaker 2: But right now, not historic, but certainly the most opportunistic

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Speaker 2: Chicago is four and one, and there's been that there

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Speaker 5: time to move on from us certain facets of that

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Speaker 5: still a work in progress with their quarterback Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 5: But a major step has been taken by the Chicago Bears,

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Speaker 5: and that's establishing the ability to run for nearly two.

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Speaker 5: Right well, and and and the one to eighty five

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Speaker 5: It needs to be part of the conversation against whom

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Speaker 3: They're gaining it now.

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Speaker 5: The trust and ability in each other to recognize, if

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Speaker 5: maybe there shouldn't be eighty some odd combined points scored

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Speaker 5: all we can do is win it, and they're winning them.

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Speaker 5: So there are two steps that have been taken with

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Speaker 5: we saw week number one where the Vikings ran more

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Speaker 3: No, no, it's not.

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Speaker 2: And the biggest part that has been built is the belief,

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Speaker 2: So the teams they've beat their six victories, Bengals, Raiders, Cowboy, Saints, Giants, Commanders,

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Speaker 2: those teams are a combined fifteen forty one to one. Okay, Well,

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Speaker 2: Caleb Williams isn't looking at that, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Where there's an element of this where yes, they have played,

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Speaker 2: Otherwise the Bears probably aren't in that one without a

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Speaker 2: Now the players believe the respect has been built, the

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Speaker 2: The belief makes them dangerous.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, and if for anything else, And still

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Speaker 3: They should be favored to win the North for sure.

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Speaker 5: Tough beat, They're a tough beat. They're a tricky beat.

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Speaker 3: That has to stop.

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Speaker 5: I don't know how it stops, because we're not compensated

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Speaker 3: Why you got to hit me with that so early?

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Speaker 3: Ko is going to be in here in ninety minutes.

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Speaker 3: Like God, that one fast, didn't you.

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Speaker 2: It's well, it's I mean to say at this stage

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Speaker 2: go beat the Bears. I think we will. How much

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Speaker 5: There are six words that you've heard me say a lot,

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Speaker 5: are situations that that are not conducive to positive consistency

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Speaker 5: and winning a lot of games. The human nature gets

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Speaker 5: to win too is when they leave what they say

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Speaker 5: to their family members, their friends, teammates outside of here. Yeah, A,

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Speaker 5: I don't care, but B it's yeah. I mean when

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Speaker 5: people talk about things, things like that probably are going

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Speaker 5: to come up. If I happen to be the proverbial

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Speaker 5: fly on the wall outside of the facility hearing that,

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Speaker 5: my first response would be look in the mirror, man,

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Speaker 5: I mean, before you start pointing fingers at those with

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Speaker 5: the eight fall starts, how about the fact that this

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Speaker 5: hasn't happened with you in a month and a half

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Speaker 5: and you were paid this to do this, and now

445
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Speaker 5: we ain't getting this. Oh yeah, So it's divisive. It

446
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Speaker 5: generally leaks in to the worst covenants in the NFL.

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Speaker 5: That's not the case here. They when they preach culture

448
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Speaker 5: in this building, and I've said this before, that's such

449
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Speaker 5: an overused trite term in sports and in life. Quite honestly,

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Speaker 5: it's not here because I've I've seen them work through

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Speaker 5: problems behind the scenes. I've seen them handle prosperity without

452
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Speaker 5: being arrogant. That's established culture. So what Nordo just said

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Speaker 5: is a very very fair assessment. But as it goes

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Speaker 5: in this building, it's been a complete non player, at

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Speaker 5: least in my experience, for three and a half years

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Speaker 5: with these guys, that's a good thing. And you know,

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Speaker 5: like like take for instance, Philadelphia and Green Bay last night.

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Speaker 5: All right, green Bay loses to Philadelphia, Elton Jenkins hurt

459
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Speaker 5: his ankle, didn't return to the game. Very physical game. Now, Now,

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Speaker 5: when it comes to culture and when it comes to

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Speaker 5: how to handle things that there's there's a writer named

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Speaker 5: Matt Schneidman who covers the Packers for The Athletic and

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Speaker 5: he posted after the game. Matt Lafleur, head coach of

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Speaker 5: the asked Matt Lafleur if he thinks he's coaching for

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Speaker 5: his job now? Really really difficult question to hear after

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Speaker 5: an emotional loss. But whatever, I mean, people can ask

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Speaker 5: whatever they want, Matt said, quote. I'll leave that for

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Speaker 5: everybody else to decide. I'll just focus on the day

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Speaker 5: to day and try to do I feel like you're

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Speaker 5: always coaching for everything in this league. You know, that's

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Speaker 5: my mindset. It's always been that way. You can't ever exhale.

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Speaker 5: You got to always be pushing. That's just my mindset,

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Speaker 5: and that will be my mindset till they tell me

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Speaker 5: not to coach anymore.

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Speaker 3: End quote.

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Speaker 5: That's a stark culture related difference from the individual a

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Speaker 5: week and change ago who addressed a question from a

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Speaker 5: member of the media by saying, I don't I don't

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Speaker 5: give a ass about Halloween.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to win a football game. So he was

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Speaker 3: very tense there.

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Speaker 5: He went at a member of the media for asking

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Speaker 5: a silly question about Halloween costumes. So now we fast

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Speaker 5: forward to last night. There's contrition, there's vault, rebility, it's up,

485
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Speaker 5: it's down, it's it's it's culture related, and and things

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Speaker 5: will reveal themselves and open up as we move forward.

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Speaker 5: If they continue to go good time, bad time, awful, great, Hey.

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Speaker 3: Eh, you know what I mean. I do know what

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Speaker 3: you mean.

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Speaker 2: So from from a Kevin O'Connell standpoint, we'll get to hear,

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Speaker 2: you know, more on this from him himself during the

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Speaker 2: eleven am hour. But I just think about, as we

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Speaker 2: were talking about the bears, the belief they have is

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Speaker 2: what makes them dangerous. The adversity that the Kevin O'Connell

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Speaker 2: world is going through right now is raising the kid

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Speaker 2: qb A and maintaining belief within that building, which through

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Speaker 2: his tenure here he's been very successful at.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's from an overarching standpoint, those if I were

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Speaker 5: to shape what I believe is the reality here, that

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Speaker 5: would be one in June. The a topic would be

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Speaker 5: improving JJ McCarthy, the second year quarterback, and making sure

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Speaker 5: things stay cohesive and tightly knit during the moderate chop.

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Speaker 5: This is not severe chop. This is moderate chop. There

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Speaker 5: are winnable games on the horizon. I can't remember the

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Speaker 5: last time Green Bay beat Minnesota. I love how the

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Speaker 5: Vikings match up against the Packers until proven otherwise. It

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Speaker 5: takes Jordan Love two and a half hours to figure

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Speaker 5: out what Brian Flores is doing. So until that changes,

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Speaker 5: then I feel good about that game. Yeah, I feel

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Speaker 5: good about the response coming up this weekend. And those

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Speaker 5: are division games. Those matter, so they matter. They all matter.

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Speaker 5: But these matter more than the run of the mill

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Speaker 5: game simply because of NFC placing and divisional rankings and

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Speaker 5: stuff like that at the end of the equation. So,

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Speaker 5: for instance, the Bears, well they're winless in the division,

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Speaker 5: so they're six and three. We're going for one to

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Speaker 5: eighty five on the ground a game. If I'm one

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Speaker 5: of their fans, I'm like, cool, that's great. Ben's doing

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Speaker 5: a great job, Caleb's handling the play action decently. How

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Speaker 5: about we wanted to vision game. How about we beat Detroit,

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Speaker 5: Green Bay or Minnesota, because we've lost to two of them.

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Speaker 5: We've given up seventy nine points to the Vikings and

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Speaker 5: the Lions. Then we did that to start the season,

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Speaker 5: by the way, fifty two against the Lions. Then we

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Speaker 5: beat Dallas by seventeen Okay, cool, that counts. Then we

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Speaker 5: beat Vegas by a point, then we beat New Orleans.

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Speaker 5: They beat Vegas, New Orleans, Sincy and the Giants, all

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Speaker 5: non playoff teams by a combined twenty two points. So

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Speaker 5: this still is a work in progress. But they just

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Speaker 5: won two right at the wire and in two different

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Speaker 5: ways that I believe is galvanizing. This team should be

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Speaker 3: Share the entire toll.

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Speaker 2: Soy, maybe this is part of the conversation later this

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Speaker 2: morning as well is he was asked a question I

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Speaker 2: think it was kind of framed up, is like what

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Speaker 2: happened to the easy Ones coach in particular to get

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Speaker 2: TJ Hawkinson involved? And even Kevin O'Connell says, hey, I

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Speaker 2: got we got.

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Speaker 3: To get TJ involved more?

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Speaker 2: And so just how easy is it to say that

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Speaker 2: versus actually executing on it, because I was looking at

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Speaker 2: some numbers yesterday. Now, JJ McCarthy good times, bad times

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Speaker 2: is a story in itself with the young QB he has.

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Speaker 3: Among all qbs.

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Speaker 2: Forget about Anthony Richardson or Josh Dobbs or Joe Milton,

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Speaker 2: forget them. The reason I say that JJ McCarthy the

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Speaker 2: highest average depth of target in the NFL, well that

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Speaker 2: means that he's trying to make deeper, deeper connections than

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Speaker 2: every other quarterback in the NFL. Second, by the way,

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Speaker 2: in this scenario again, forget about the Milton's, Dobbs, Richardson's

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Speaker 2: oh my gotcha second in the NFL is actually Sam Darnold,

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Speaker 2: but JJ kind of getting it back to So the idea,

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Speaker 2: if there is some validity to it, would be, you know,

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Speaker 2: if we shorten things up bo Nicks, for instance, two

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Speaker 2: yards shorter average depth of target. Now, if you look

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Speaker 2: at how Sean Payton has deployed bo nix, a lot

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Speaker 2: of short stuff, a lot of the easiest possible completions.

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Speaker 2: Let's get athletes in space and let them run around

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Speaker 2: a little bit. How easy is it to say I

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Speaker 2: need to get TJ more involved versus actually executing it

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Speaker 2: on the field because you feel like number eight seven

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Speaker 2: should be a factor, whether it's in the red zone. Again,

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Speaker 2: the easy ones quote unquote, very very quiet season for

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Speaker 2: mister Hawkinson, who I thought would be pretty good buddies

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Speaker 2: with JJ McCarthy by this stage of the season.

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Speaker 5: In Wlkinson's last twenty one regular season games, he has

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Speaker 5: two touchdowns. Okay, So whose fault is it Sam Darnold's,

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Speaker 5: JJ McCarthy's, or Carson Wentz's or Kevin O'Connell's.

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Speaker 3: Or or is it the tight ends? I don't know.

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Speaker 5: When I'm watching these things back, you know, and generally

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Speaker 5: on Tuesday mornings, I'll come in and I'll show you something,

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Speaker 5: or I'll say to you, Hey, do you like Addison

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Speaker 5: on this play?

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Speaker 3: Hey, what happened here? You know? And we'll see and

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Speaker 3: again this is with all due respect.

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Speaker 5: And then the Tom Brady, fran Tarkenton, and Joe Montana

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Speaker 5: missed the receivers every single game. Every single game they played,

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Speaker 5: there were guys running open for good things, and they

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Speaker 5: probably missed them. That's the nature of the real lifetime

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Speaker 5: of the most difficult job in all of pro sports,

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Speaker 5: playing quarterback in the National Football League.

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Speaker 3: So when I.

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Speaker 5: Watch these things back, I just, you know, maybe I

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Speaker 5: need to look more closely, But I don't look at

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Speaker 5: like a post stroke streaking down the field, center of

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Speaker 5: the field. Somebody's wide open. Somebody just fails to look

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Speaker 5: at him. Like last night with the replays, you know

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Speaker 5: that they were showing on Monday Night football, Well there

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Speaker 5: were no fewer than three or four times love for

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Speaker 5: whatever the reason, seemed to be looking right at a

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Speaker 5: wide open Romeo Dobbs. I mean, Dobbs's route running has

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Speaker 5: gotten so good. He had one that's a touchdown if

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Speaker 5: he hits him. Yeah, the one to the right, yes, yeah,

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Speaker 5: by the sideline right. But he didn't. He either didn't

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Speaker 5: get it there after looking or just didn't see it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he went off him real quick.

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Speaker 5: Whatever whatever happened, it happened. So like with Hockinson, I

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Speaker 5: just maybe there's a lot of that there. I just

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Speaker 5: don't see a lot of it. To your point, when

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Speaker 5: the coach is like, yes, we need to activate this, right,

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Speaker 5: I mean it's it's worth three weeks removed from x's

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Speaker 5: and o's with Kevin O'Connell, where I'm like, you know,

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Speaker 5: let's just say for circumstances out of his control. I

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Speaker 5: think Jalen Naylor is having an unbelievably good season, and

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Speaker 5: he agreed and pointed out some things well without implicating,

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Speaker 5: you know, exact situations for time purposes. I think Naylor

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Speaker 5: has been missed on at least four touchdowns this year.

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Speaker 5: I know Jefferson's been missed on some very very that

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Speaker 5: they all get missed everywhere. But Hawkinson, if he's part

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Speaker 5: of that bit, he's compensated to be a field stretching

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Speaker 5: tight end, to move the chains and to score touchdowns,

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Speaker 5: and none of that is really happening. So the question

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Speaker 5: would be why, I can't exactly answer it.

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Speaker 2: Mike's Mike's part of that presser yesterday, some positive news.

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Speaker 3: PA.

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Speaker 2: So first and foremost, when when he hit the turf,

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Grenard writhing in pain at US Bank Stadium on Sunday,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm thinking, are we looking at you know,

647
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 2: what was it AC joint terrorism?

648
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 3: Are we looking at clavicle? What are we looking at

649
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 3: with Jade? Well?

650
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,800
Speaker 2: Yesterday the head coach really started off his press conference

651
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 2: early talking about he thinks we escaped serious injury with

652
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 2: Jonathan Grenard and we want to see if he can

653
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 2: get on the field and how much practice work that

654
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 2: he could be to potentially even be available this weekend.

655
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 3: But maybe worst case scenario.

656
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 2: Maybe just has to chill a week and we'll have

657
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 2: him back at Lambeau.

658
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 3: But from him, I don't really want that. No, we

659
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 3: don't want that.

660
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 5: But I mean, according to everybody, the head coach is

661
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 5: a barbarian for the way he treated Carson Wentz. So

662
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 5: just be a barbarian and cut off the shoulder.

663
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, just tell him to play. Yeah, just tell him

664
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 3: to play. Drag him, drag.

665
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 2: Him onto the field against his will like you did

666
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 2: with Carson Wentz.

667
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure, that's what barbarians do so drag him

668
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 5: on the field, don't care about his countenance, which is

669
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,760
Speaker 5: that of pain. If he dies, he dies, and force

670
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 5: him to do something he doesn't want to do.

671
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 2: Ryan Kelly, Ryan Kelly doing a little more work this

672
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 2: week as well.

673
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 3: It sounds with Grenard.

674
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 5: Yes, when it happened in front of the Baltimore bench

675
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 5: when and I have my binoculars on him. So I'm

676
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 5: not going to pretend to be like a fake doctor

677
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 5: David whatever and be like I can analyze it from

678
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 5: a mile away. What I can analyze is eight and

679
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 5: a half to nine out of ten times when players

680
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 5: go down and you see them banging on the turf,

681
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 5: it's bad. Okay, they know this ain't this is bad.

682
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 5: And Grenard did that, I'm like, damn man, so it

683
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 5: you know, he obviously thought it was worse than it

684
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,320
Speaker 5: was when he got to the Blue ten. Jonathan Grenard

685
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 5: is one of the tougher players that I've no matter

686
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 5: the circumstances of who's in and who's out, how much

687
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 5: pain he's in, how much attention he's getting, because he

688
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 5: gets a lot, he never complains about it, never ever ever.

689
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 5: He's a stalwart. He's Salt of the Earth. He's one

690
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 5: of the toughest players I've seen here in a long time.

691
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 5: So for him to leave a game that was some

692
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 5: significant pain. If if he, if the medical staff and

693
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 5: he can feel without you know, making it worse, can

694
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:08,760
Speaker 5: play through it, then he'll play this weekend.

695
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 2: How do you think we've gotten by without Josh Oliver

696
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 2: and what do you think Mike's bike style. The prospect

697
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 2: of him returning this weekend may improve things because we

698
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 2: saw even you know in the Kiddies game in particular,

699
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 2: you saw the backups, the EUROSSEC types. I think we

700
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 2: saw some Nick Vignette sightings at times. Getting getting cj

701
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 2: hamback healthy, by the way, that kind of helps stem

702
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 2: the tide on some bits as well. But in particular

703
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 2: surviving without the physicality of a Josh Oliver. He's going

704
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 2: to be doing more work and ramping up, and I

705
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 2: think the way Ko put it is kind of looking

706
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,240
Speaker 2: forward to seeing him or having him for some snaps

707
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 2: this weekend.

708
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Speaker 3: I think we might get Oliver back.

709
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 5: I like that, but see that just plays into what why,

710
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 5: for whatever the reason, I decided to write this Sunday night,

711
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 5: and I'm not I'm not laying off of it into

712
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 5: the season. If you got your dogs, okay, to who

713
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 5: much is given, much is expected, find ways to win games,

714
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 5: find ways to find positive consistency because this is a

715
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 5: roster full of illuminaries, and that includes the quarterback who's

716
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 5: only played four games experience required, but with where you

717
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 5: drafted him, there are facets of JJ McCarthy's game that

718
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,800
Speaker 5: you know you can win with right now.

719
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 3: And that's fact.

720
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 5: Why is it the reality because we've seen it twice

721
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 5: and we've seen how it's happened, so we know it's there.

722
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 5: Oliver's part of that. Josh Oliver is part of that

723
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 5: from a physicality standpoint, a pass rushing protection standpoint, like Oliver,

724
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 5: say it plays this weekend, keep him right in that

725
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 5: game at lambeau Field with Rashan Gary and Michael Parsons

726
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 5: and Edger and Cooper. I think you're going to need

727
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 5: Oliver more that game. Then you're going to need him

728
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 5: against Montes Sweat and some of these sure that the

729
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 5: Bears have and you're at home. So I hope Oliver

730
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:08,280
Speaker 5: plays because it just takes what you thought and felt

731
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 5: would be good to very good and amplifies it with

732
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 5: having all your guys, and I think it will help them.

733
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 3: It'll help them find a way to win Vikes bites.

734
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 3: Thank you thousand Hills. How much?

735
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 2: And maybe maybe this was somewhat answered when we started

736
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 2: talking about this run game of the Bears.

737
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 3: How much can you really take from week one?

738
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 2: It Soldier Field, This is a Vikings team with the

739
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 2: good times bad times, finally seeing most of the right

740
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:37,240
Speaker 2: names on the field. Meanwhile, I feel like the evolution

741
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 2: of the Bears has taken a course in which the

742
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 2: team we see Sunday may be very much unlike what

743
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 2: we saw opening night, creating some unknowns and maybe some

744
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 2: unscouted looks into Sunday's game and what they're able to

745
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 2: do on the ground. Is there a lot you can

746
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 2: take from week one within the frame of a singular season,

747
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 2: given how much things change.

748
00:40:58,640 --> 00:40:59,720
Speaker 3: That's a wonderful question.

749
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 5: Caleb the quarterback has to be better than he was

750
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,839
Speaker 5: week one, and he wasn't bad week one, but I'm

751
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 5: excited with the rest of the week developing to get

752
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 5: into what is better with him in unison with his

753
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 5: coach right the running piece at won eighty five per

754
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 5: the last five, there's definitely something to that. I don't

755
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 5: exactly know what it is, but there's something to that,

756
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 5: and that was not the case when they played the

757
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:27,959
Speaker 5: Vikings week number one.

758
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 2: See this is where it gets annoying though, whether it's

759
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 2: you mentioned the teams that they played the fifteen forty

760
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 2: one and one record that the teams they've beaten this

761
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 2: year have so they beat bad teams. On paper, it

762
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 2: appears Caleb was sacked sixty eight times last year. Only

763
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,879
Speaker 2: sixty eight Yeah, only fourteen times in twenty twenty five.

764
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 2: So then but then you play the game, Yeah, is

765
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 2: it because you're playing the complete ls of the NFC

766
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 2: and teams like the Bengals who saved for Trey Hendrickson aren't.

767
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 3: Giving you a lot of push. I don't think that's it.

768
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,040
Speaker 2: Is that part of the growth in concert with the

769
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 2: run games, so the play action and maybe the kid

770
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 2: has a right to get better.

771
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 3: YEA, like a lot of this stuff.

772
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 2: You can throw these stats out there and try to

773
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 2: deep dive, but there can be you can kind of

774
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 2: just just like a lot of data, most data, you

775
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 2: can make it say whatever you want without necessarily knowing

776
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 2: accuracy along the way. I don't know how to look

777
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 2: at Caleb right now is completion percentage has gone down

778
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 2: a tick, but.

779
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,280
Speaker 3: Over a yard more per attempt.

780
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 2: He's more efficient, and in the end, he is on

781
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 2: track to exceed four thousand yards this season.

782
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 3: He may even throw a few more picks than he

783
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 3: did a year ago.

784
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:37,720
Speaker 2: But it's kind he's kind of getting down the field

785
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 2: a little bit better than he did.

786
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:39,760
Speaker 3: His rookie season.

787
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 2: So how putting all of that together, I'm just I'm

788
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 2: kind of confused by all of it.

789
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 5: Courtney Cronan, the Great Courtney Cronan, who covers the team

790
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 5: for ESPNESPN dot com. She'll be on nine to noon

791
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 5: tomorrow or Thursday. Wonderful question for her because she would

792
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 5: know more about it than me. My assumption or ascertation

793
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:03,320
Speaker 5: from the outside would be thinking about what I saw

794
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:07,800
Speaker 5: with their quarterback, Caleb Williams up to week one, during

795
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,760
Speaker 5: week one and right after week one and then hitting

796
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 5: nine to noon with Nordo and saying, this battle between

797
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 5: what Ben wants and Caleb Williams will this is going

798
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 5: to be fascinating because Caleb wants to do it a

799
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 5: certain way and Ben, he legitimately can be like, Okay,

800
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 5: well your way sucks. Your way got you sack sixty

801
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 5: eight times. Your way didn't pull people out of problems.

802
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 5: Here's what's proven. Whether you have Jamiir, David Laporta, williams

803
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,720
Speaker 5: Amen Ross Saint Brown golf or not, this is tried

804
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 5: and true. It's abundantly apparent to me the unison and

805
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 5: cohesion between the quarterback and the head coach is taking place.

806
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 5: And I'm going to respectfully roll the dice that it

807
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 5: was will William's will to do it his way that

808
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 5: had to be broken. So I just think that that

809
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 5: Caleb has submitted to what is best for the team

810
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 5: and not best for him necessarily on paper, right, But

811
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 5: it's tried and true and proven, and now we've won

812
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 5: six and only lost three. So I just think I

813
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 5: think Ben has gotten through to that quarterback who is gifted.

814
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 5: And that's probably one of the if not the most

815
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Speaker 5: different things from week number one.

816
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Speaker 3: What's going on over there? We got about four minutes.

830
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Speaker 2: Well, we were just talking about not just the Bears

831
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 2: and what are the warts that they have. Well, they

832
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 2: might be putting a little makeup on some of those

833
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 2: warts with that schedule, and just kind of how things

834
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 2: are laying out, but you know, feeling having all the

835
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 2: right names and the kid QB raising them on the

836
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 2: fly and having the right answers and not having a

837
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 2: false starts, et cetera. The idea that this team is

838
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 2: still very much a team that can find their way

839
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 2: into the playoffs. Now it's an eight game sprint, right,

840
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 2: Let's win divisional games. Let's do those things. But just

841
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 2: kind of looking around the NFC and just trying to

842
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:00,320
Speaker 2: figure out, you know, who's got warts and if you

843
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 2: look at if we're just looking, you know, just cursory

844
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 2: fashion at the standings. Cowboys, Cards, Falcons, Commanders, Saints, Giants.

845
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 2: Those are all teams that currently sit below the Minnesota

846
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 2: Vikings from a standing's perspective. Now we have to go

847
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 2: to Dallas at some point and get that w But

848
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 2: for the most I don't see the Cowboys jumping up

849
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 2: and finding their way into a playoff spot. And so

850
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 2: you got to play the numbers game. Seven playoff teams,

851
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 2: division winners, three wild cards. It still feels like, still

852
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 2: very confidently that there will either be three teams from

853
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 2: the West or there will be three teams from the North.

854
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 2: And who are the teams above us? Well, the Panthers,

855
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 2: I mean they just have a quarterback problem. We saw

856
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 2: the Saints. Saints gave up like tow and change on

857
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 2: the ground to man young guy and mister Swift a

858
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 2: few weeks ago Rico Dowdell as that thing hits midnight

859
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:52,399
Speaker 2: and turns back into a pumpkin. They couldn't run. They

860
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 2: lost after the thrilling victory, thrilling, it's doing a lot

861
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 2: of heavy lifting there in terms of the winning Lambeau.

862
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,439
Speaker 3: They lose at home to the Saints. The QB's bad.

863
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Speaker 3: The whole thing sucks. They're gonna fade out.

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00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 2: But then we start getting to these teams in the

865
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 2: West and specifically in the North, and I know they

866
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 2: got run up on by the Rams. The Rams, by

867
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Speaker 2: the way, if we're talking about who has warts, I'm

868
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 2: having a hard time finding warts with the Rams, by

869
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 2: the way, as they're doing typical McVeigh ramp up. Having

870
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:23,720
Speaker 2: turned the boat ball over in three games. The defense

871
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 2: is super stout and getting better. Stafford hasn't looked better.

872
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 2: It seems like in a Rams uniform. Then he's flying

873
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 2: around right now. They just ran it up on the Niners,

874
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 2: who are six and three. Everybody's hurt. But the advantage

875
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 2: for the Niners here as we look ahead, is a

876
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 2: schedule that features the Brissette led Cards, It features the Panthers,

877
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 2: it features the Browns, it features the Titans, it does

878
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 2: have the Colts on there gonna be a toughie, but

879
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:57,720
Speaker 2: they're in a situation right now where Shanahan's group doesn't

880
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 2: require building belief. That is a strong group that should

881
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 2: believe at all times. But there are also beneficiaries of

882
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 2: a schedule that really back half light and works in

883
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 2: their favor. So a team that has Wartz, but a

884
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 2: team that seems very poised to secure a playoff spot.

885
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,240
Speaker 2: And that just lends me now to what we watched

886
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 2: last night. Because Jordan Love, Jordan Love in these Packers,

887
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 2: we get to see him in a couple of weeks.

888
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 3: When the run game, I mean not that.

889
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:34,720
Speaker 2: It's ever necessarily truly explosive, but when you're not getting

890
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 2: five yards of carry, when you're not moving man, and

891
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 2: Jordan Love doesn't have that obvious answer, that obvious and

892
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 2: Tucker Kraft I feel like has had become that obvious answer,

893
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 2: that obvious solver done in the past game when you

894
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 2: don't have that, the kid felt un looked felt and

895
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 2: looked uncomfortable last night. And it was a lot of

896
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 2: getting off of a read quickly finding the next one,

897
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 2: looking for the most obvious and safe option, and I

898
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:04,320
Speaker 2: think that put him in a ton of bad spots.

899
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Speaker 3: I'm not, you know, with the with the Elton Jenkins.

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Speaker 2: Injury, interesting to see how severe or how long lasting

901
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,919
Speaker 2: that is. Elton's damn good and and this O line

902
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:14,919
Speaker 2: has done a really good job in front of Jordan

903
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 2: this year, So I'm not even putting that fumble on

904
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 2: him per se. I mean, how about Edger and Cooper

905
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 2: punching that thing out of out of Jalen hurts his

906
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 2: hands early on as well. But they're when you're talking

907
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 2: about warts and a defense that you know the secondary.

908
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:32,320
Speaker 2: If the defensive front isn't doing its thing, the secondary

909
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 2: can be had. And when you have a quarterback that

910
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 2: doesn't have an obvious answer and there's a lack of

911
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 2: comfort there if you take away any sort of uber

912
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 2: efficient running, I think the Packers are in trouble and

913
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 2: potentially a target at whitch to shoot. Vikings got to

914
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 2: have their say in this with a couple of games

915
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 2: ahead with the with the Green and Gold. But that's

916
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 2: a team that has warts and is in a playoff spot.

917
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 2: And if you're a Vikings fan looking ahead, that's a

918
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Speaker 2: team to pay attention to our border.

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Speaker 5: Rivals when it comes two potential calamities within the conference

920
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:06,839
Speaker 5: or Wartz as you wait it out. I don't care

921
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Speaker 5: how the Eagles won. The Eagles won, yeah, and Jalen Phillips,

922
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 5: the former Dolphin, played with his hair on fire. I

923
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,360
Speaker 5: mean you talk about a new lease on life. I

924
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,479
Speaker 5: think you had both their fumble recoveries. You talk about

925
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 5: a new lease on life. You leave that awful situation

926
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Speaker 5: in Miami and you go to that team off a

927
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Speaker 5: super Bowl victory, and you get to play a lot.

928
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 5: I mean, holy cow, and I wonder he will looked

929
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:34,800
Speaker 5: all pro last night. So they will grind away and

930
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 5: they will win more than they don't. Nor to mention

931
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Speaker 5: the Rams did. Just remember the have and the have

932
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Speaker 5: nots begin to separate themselves the Sunday or that week

933
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Speaker 5: after Thanksgiving, and what you do in front of it matters,

934
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 5: But the Sunday after Thanksgiving through December in early January,

935
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Speaker 5: that's where the calamities end for a lot of them,

936
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Speaker 5: and the goals and Rams the lines to a certain extent,

937
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 5: they're beginning to separate themselves a little bit. Seahawks might

938
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,359
Speaker 5: be in that conversation. I just don't know enough about them.

939
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Speaker 5: Right now, it's ten o'clock. You're listening to nine to

940
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Speaker 5: noon