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Speaker 1: Hey, welcome to home where. Every week we.

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Speaker 2: am Dean Sharp, the house whisper, custom home builder, custom

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Speaker 2: How about we go to it. We're going to take

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Speaker 1: Hey, Kathy, Welcome home.

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Speaker 3: Hi Dean, thanks so much for taking my call and

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Speaker 3: I appreciate your show. I have a question about some

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Speaker 3: LED gimmable clear light bulbs that I put in a

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Speaker 3: because LED isn't supposed to get hot, and within about

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Speaker 3: five minutes the metal shade was super hot.

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Speaker 4: I'm just during why that might be okay.

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Speaker 2: So it's in a floor lamp, and the floor lamp

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Speaker 2: has its own dimmer switch, like a rolling dimmer switch

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Speaker 3: Uh not yet, I was going to plug it into

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Speaker 3: a dimmer switch. It's for a Airbnb and the original lamp, the.

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Speaker 4: Base fell apart the I guess it's.

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Speaker 3: Called a loader, the weighted part. So until I repair that,

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Speaker 3: I put this other lamp in there, and I wanted

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Speaker 3: to eventually attach it to a dimmer but right now

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Speaker 3: it's just three individual bulbs and they just turn on turnoff.

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Speaker 2: Really just individual bulbs that are turning on turning off,

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Speaker 2: and there's no dimmer switch attached to them right now

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Speaker 2: at all.

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Speaker 3: No, So it's a pole lamp with one shade and

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Speaker 3: then a little further up another shade, and then a

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Speaker 3: little further up another shade. Yeah, they're just either on

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Speaker 3: or off individually. So I thought, well, because airbnb people

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, okay, so I can tell you this, Kathy.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure it's a problem because a clear led bulbs,

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Speaker 2: they tend to even though they're led based clear bulbs,

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Speaker 2: vintage look to them. They don't have the same kind

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Speaker 2: of cooling mechanisms that other bulbs, frosted bulbs that are

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Speaker 2: in fact, well always a clear decorator bulb will in

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Speaker 2: fact always give off a little bit more heat even

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Speaker 2: an LED bulb. I was thinking at first that maybe

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Speaker 2: So if they're in a relatively height little metal shade,

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Speaker 2: then yeah, so you might want to consider instead of

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Speaker 2: real purpose is to be seen, and you know, like

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Speaker 2: the whole thing exposed. If it's in a metal shade

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Speaker 2: those out to just a standard kind of frosted LED.

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Speaker 2: They will definitely be cooler than the clear wins that

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Speaker 2: you are going to be using an LED compatible dimmer switch,

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Speaker 2: Otherwise the lights will start to strobe out on you,

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Speaker 2: the clear, because I'm not sure you really need the

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Speaker 3: Okay, I appreciate that. Yeah, it had a bigger frosted

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Speaker 3: me ask you this. I always use one of those

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Speaker 3: I needed a dimmer that was compatible.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, they make every imaginable kind. Well, you

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Speaker 2: know what, I take that back, because I'm not sure

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Speaker 2: I've seen the big knob dimmers that are LED compatible.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure they are, but yes, slider dimmers totally common.

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Speaker 2: They make just about every kind of dimmer that you're

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Speaker 2: with dimmable LED bulbs. That's the other thing too. Some

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Speaker 2: LED bulbs. The bulbs have to say dimmable and the

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Speaker 2: dimmer has to say LED compatible. Then they'll made up

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Speaker 2: just fine and you'll get everything you.

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Speaker 1: Want out of it.

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Speaker 2: Otherwise you're gonna get like a disco strobe effect happening

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Speaker 2: So uh yeah, just make sure they're made it up

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Speaker 3: Kathy, if I've never if I have a dimmer that

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Speaker 3: I think probably is not LED compatible, and I've used

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Speaker 3: it for years and never had the strobing, is that okay?

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Speaker 2: It probably is LED compatible. Then if you've used it

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Speaker 2: then it is compatible.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 3: Well I bought it way before they even had LED bulbs,

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Speaker 3: so I better switch out because I'm pretty sure it's

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Speaker 3: not okay. Thanks so much, Dean. I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: You're so welcome, Kathy. Thanks for the call and for

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Speaker 2: your chipper attitude. I appreciate that too. How about some

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Speaker 2: to Home with Dean Sharp the House Whisper. Welcome to home,

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Speaker 2: and welcome home. We are doing an all calls weekend, Dan,

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Speaker 2: welcome home.

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Speaker 5: Good morning, Dean.

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Speaker 3: How are you.

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Speaker 1: I'm well, sir. How you doing very good?

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Speaker 6: Very good.

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Speaker 5: I'm curious about sodium borate as a wood preservative on

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Speaker 5: new construction or remodels. I'm going through a little bit

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Speaker 5: of a remodel and my contractor recommended a borate preservative,

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Speaker 5: and I'm just curious on if you've heard of it,

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Speaker 5: if you've got any thoughts.

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Speaker 2: Well, bor rates are actually a common preservative for wood,

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Speaker 2: and they also bear the advantage of being an anti

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Speaker 1: Oh, you got a.

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Speaker 2: Little bit of background noise there, Dan, You must be

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Speaker 2: in the car traveling there. I'm just gonna I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: pop you on hold real quick so we get that

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Speaker 2: background noise out of there. Uh. Borates are They're they're

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Speaker 2: just everybody knows sodium borate is a natural mineral and

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Speaker 2: there's nothing weird about it. But it's got a lot

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Speaker 2: of pretty magical properties. As I said, we use it

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Speaker 2: in cellulose insulation all the time and it is a

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Speaker 2: great expeller of moisture. As a result, it works well

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Speaker 2: on wood. It's friendly to wood long term. And also

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Speaker 2: did I just say I did that it has a

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Speaker 2: lot of anti insect anti termite properties as well. Termites

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Speaker 2: do not enjoy ingesting borates. It's toxic to them. It's

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Speaker 2: not toxic to I mean, I don't want you to

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Speaker 2: eating borates, but the point is you can come into

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Speaker 2: contact with it no problem for for termites, it is

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Speaker 2: so it has a lot of just generally good properties.

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Speaker 6: Dan.

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Speaker 2: Now, some people don't want to invest in treating their

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Speaker 2: framing with borates before they cover it up. That's, of course,

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Speaker 2: a totally independent decision for you to make. But we've

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Speaker 2: had you know, I don't want to say a lot

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Speaker 2: certain wood framing members on houses treated with borates, and

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Speaker 2: officially nothing has happened. I mean, that's the thing. It's

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Speaker 2: the herd. It's hard to prove a negative where it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you put this stuff on your wood and well, nothing happens,

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Speaker 2: nothing bad happens, And that's the good news.

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Speaker 5: I really appreciate the input. I've been doing a little

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Speaker 2: And you know why, I don't know why it has

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Speaker 2: you know why it has fire properties. This is weird,

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Speaker 2: this weird bit. But sodium borate has a has Like

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Speaker 2: I said, it has a moisture issue. It has moisture.

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Speaker 2: How do I put it. I'll just I'll explain it

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Speaker 2: this way. In cellulose insulation, sodium borate, once it gets

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Speaker 2: heat eated up and exposed a high heat, it actually

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Speaker 2: expels moisture. It'll draw moisture out of the wood and

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Speaker 2: actually bring it to the surface. And so yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: the same way it works in cellulose insulation. Whatever moisture

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Speaker 2: is in the material, as the sodium borate heats up,

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Speaker 2: it actually brings that moisture to the surface, which actually

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Speaker 2: gives it some fire retardant capability.

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Speaker 1: So it is. It is pre the outstanding stuff.

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Speaker 5: I really appreciate. Yeah, it seems like a no brainer

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Speaker 5: to me, with the costs not being very expensive at all,

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Speaker 5: and trying to be proactive, it just seems like a

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Speaker 5: good idea. But I want to just get your view

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Speaker 5: on it. I appreciate your time, all right.

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Speaker 1: My friend, I appreciate the call and the question. Let's

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Speaker 1: talk to Robbie. Hey, Robbie, welcome home.

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Speaker 7: My problem there are two large trees I'm taking over

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Speaker 7: my grandmother's property. They are two large trees in the

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Speaker 7: front yard. The roots are exposed. I believe they're causing

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Speaker 7: the sidewalk in front to crack. I want to know,

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Speaker 7: can it be corrected or must I remove the trees?

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Speaker 2: Well, I hope you don't remove the trees, especially if

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Speaker 2: they're big, beautiful trees and they are contributing to the

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Speaker 2: overall aesthetic and look of the home, and most southern

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Speaker 2: California homes, in my opinion, need more trees. So surface roots.

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Speaker 2: This is the question. Surface roots. If these are really old,

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Speaker 2: well established trees, Robbie, then they get a lot of

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Speaker 2: But number two, it will still keep giving us surface

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Speaker 2: KFI Dean Sharp, the House Whisper. Welcome home. All calls.

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Speaker 2: Weekends are great because we can kind of catch up

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Speaker 2: on with your home. If you didn't get through today

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Speaker 2: Give me a call next Saturday, next Sunday. You'll get through.

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Speaker 2: Persistence matters, you will make it through. Hey Scott, welcome home.

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Speaker 6: Hi Dean, I've got it. Nineteen eighty six house and

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Speaker 6: Two story downfair stays pindigrees cooler than the upstairs. My

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Speaker 2: Okay, so your concern is that the vents are too

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Speaker 6: Airflow I feel would be better in the middle of

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Vents over entry doors are

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Speaker 2: really a hilarious thing. Well, it's not hilarious when you're

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Speaker 2: and you've got to understand that they weren't put there scientifically.

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Speaker 2: big deal. Right, It isn't. When you take a look

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Speaker 2: because it's back behind me and everything looks pristine. Well,

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Speaker 2: it anywhere. However, if somebody likes Scott, my house is

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Speaker 2: not staying cool the way it needs to. Especially if

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Speaker 1: Reason not to have the vent over the entry door.

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Speaker 2: And maybe your house is working for you in your situation,

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Speaker 2: HVAC systems, there are ways to resolve that issue. Scott's

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Speaker 2: fact that in a typical tract home built in the eighties,

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Speaker 2: to have the vent there. It's a very very simple idea. Guys,

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Speaker 2: You've got to realize that it's a recirculating system for

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Speaker 2: all of those small vents that are blowing into rooms, bedrooms,

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Speaker 2: what is creating the current of air flowing in your house.

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Speaker 2: all the other vents in their little system are putting out.

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Speaker 2: all right. The point being this, all central HVAC systems

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Speaker 2: and people will notice this, Scott, You will notice this.

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Speaker 2: People who have doortop vents for their HVAC system have

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Speaker 2: So yeah, you're absolutely one hundred percent correct. If you've

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Speaker 2: It was expensive for the developer to pay for a

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Speaker 1: It's damn job. Does that make sense, Scott?

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Speaker 6: Thank you, Dean, That's what I was thinking. But you're

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Speaker 6: the best. You and Tin are both the best. How's that?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Well, she will very much appreciate hearing that she actually

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Speaker 2: thank you very much, Scott. Good luck on that. Usually,

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Speaker 4: Hi Deane. I'm looking to replace my cabinet on door

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Speaker 4: to paint them use Benjamin More cabinet paint based on

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Speaker 4: how to paint that because I don't know of standing

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Speaker 4: every place I'm looking, and I know, you know, everyone

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Speaker 4: has their own opinions of places, so take them how

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Speaker 4: you want them. But do you have any recommendations of

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Speaker 4: where to purchase door fronts and drawer fronts? And then

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Speaker 4: that's catching around the count of time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, So first of all, where to purchase.

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Speaker 2: You know, if you don't find exactly what you're looking

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Speaker 2: for online, then get some advice from the people at

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Speaker 2: the kitchen store. Honestly, you should call them up and say, okay,

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Speaker 2: here's my situation. Especially if you've got any odd sized doors,

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Speaker 2: they can definitely help you out with that because they've

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Speaker 2: got the they got the line on multiple different brands

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Speaker 2: and multiple different and lines of cabinet doors. Uh, the

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Speaker 2: cab the cabinet door that you're looking to replace your

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Speaker 2: existing ones with. Is it a raised panel door? Is

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Speaker 2: it like a flat shaker door? What do you what

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Speaker 2: are you thinking? What's the planet?

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Speaker 4: It's the house is built in ninety three, so it

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Speaker 4: and it used to be like a honey oak, and

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Speaker 4: I stand in a little bit darker so it's not

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Speaker 4: so yucky looking. So it's kind of raised ish has

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Speaker 4: some detail on it that we don't like anymore. But

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Speaker 4: we are looking at going war playing as a Shaker

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Speaker 4: style cabinet doorfront and doorfronts.

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Speaker 1: So well.

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Speaker 2: The reason I yeah, the reason I asked is because

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Speaker 2: one of the big things about cabinet doors that a

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Speaker 2: lot of people aren't really aware of. If you're using

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Speaker 2: now you if you're going for a shaker, which is

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Speaker 2: a framed exterior and a flat panel in the center,

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Speaker 2: then you're good. You're good with you know, you don't

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Speaker 2: have to follow this particular piece of advice because that

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Speaker 2: center shaker panel is some in almost every shaker door

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Speaker 2: you would buy. It's some form of a piece of

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Speaker 2: vineyard plywood, which is a good thing. That's a good thing,

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Speaker 2: not a bad thing. Some cabinet doors these days that

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Speaker 2: have raised panels, some people think, oh, well, I got

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Speaker 2: to go with the stain grade door because that's the

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Speaker 2: solid wood panel, and that must be the best, because

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Speaker 2: all these other doors that are paint grade have an

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Speaker 2: MDF panel, like a medium density fiberboard panel, even with

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Speaker 2: a wood frame around them, and that doesn't seem right.

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Speaker 2: And yet that's exactly right. For those of you who

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Speaker 2: are thinking about doing this because when it comes to

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Speaker 2: a paint grade cabinet, we always use an MDF fiberboard

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Speaker 2: center panel because it won't split and they're notorious of

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Speaker 2: solid wood interior raised panels are notorious for sometimes cracking

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Speaker 2: and splitting along the grain line.

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Speaker 1: But that doesn't apply to you, Laura.

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Speaker 2: I'm just laying that out there for everybody else who's

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Speaker 2: thinking about replacing their cabinet doors. There are so many

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Speaker 2: good suppliers of Shaker style cabinet doors that I'm sure

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Speaker 2: you're gonna be able to find one, But you know,

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Speaker 2: give the kitchen store ring too and get some advice

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Speaker 2: along those lines, because there are multiple sources to find them.

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Speaker 2: Some of them are put together better than others, and

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Speaker 2: so that's what yeah, yeah, And that's that's what you

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Speaker 2: want to be looking for for sure. And if you

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Speaker 2: if there's anywhere where you can get either a sample

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Speaker 2: or get hands on or eyes on, I would always

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Speaker 2: recommend that first before committing to it, because even though

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Speaker 2: you're not replacing all your cabinets, it's still it's still

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Speaker 2: a big pull to replace all of the doors and

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Speaker 2: drawerfronts in the kitchen. Now, let's talk about the the

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Speaker 2: stuff that you've got left over. If you're replacing doors

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Speaker 2: and drawerfronts, Okay, then you don't have to worry about

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Speaker 2: much prep on the new ones because they're coming in

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Speaker 2: raw and ready to rock and roll for your paint.

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Speaker 2: Just I assume that, And the best thing to do

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Speaker 2: is to order them either raw and or pre primed,

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Speaker 2: and that's always.

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Speaker 1: A great primed Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, pre primed from the factory is just a fantastic

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Speaker 2: way to go because they're basically paint ready for you. Okay,

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Speaker 2: you just make sure they're clean and dust free and

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Speaker 2: they're paint ready and ready to go. Now, as far

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Speaker 2: as the existing face frame of your cabinet, when we

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Speaker 2: say sanding, okay, I just want to make it really

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Speaker 2: clear you're not restaining these cabinets, you're painting them.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: So when we say sand, we do not need to

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Speaker 2: sand these cabinets all the way down to bear wood.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: What we're looking to do is number one, we want

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Speaker 2: to make sure those frames are cleaned up, nice and clean,

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Speaker 2: and we want to basically sand them just enough to

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Speaker 2: open up the porosity of the finish the it's on there. Okay,

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Speaker 2: So we want to dull the finish, and if you've

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Speaker 2: successfully dulled the finish and then wipe them down super

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Speaker 2: clean and ready, then chances are they are ready for

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Speaker 2: paint at that point, because you know, the cabinets have

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Speaker 2: got paint or stain on them, and then they've got

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Speaker 2: a polyurethane finish on them that may or may not

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Speaker 2: be in great shape after the years have gone by.

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Speaker 2: You want to get to the point where you've opened

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Speaker 2: up the porosity simply so that the paint is going

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Speaker 2: to grab onto that surface and not peel and ship away.

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Speaker 2: And the same is true with that little strip around

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Speaker 2: the edge of the countertop. I hope it's not plastic,

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Speaker 2: because that would be weird. First of all, chances are

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Speaker 2: it's probably a highly because it's an edge piece. It's

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Speaker 2: probably a piece of wood with a lot of polyurethane

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Speaker 2: on it.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: So again we're talking about a very a very fine,

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Speaker 2: a relatively fine grit of sand paper. And again, because

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Speaker 2: you're painting it, you're not really worried about messing up.

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Speaker 2: You know, even if it is plastic, I'm messing up

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Speaker 2: you know some veneer that's printed on it. Okay, So

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Speaker 2: we're talking about very, very light, very very small grit

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Speaker 2: sand paper to again take off sort of burnish, take

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Speaker 2: off the shine of that edge piece without changing its

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Speaker 2: form or digging into it. And I think chances are

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Speaker 2: very very likely, maybe ninety eight percent chance. You just

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Speaker 2: take off any kind of shine that it's got, clean

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Speaker 2: it up real good, it'll be ready for paint.

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Speaker 4: And can I use the same cabinet paint for that

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Speaker 4: edging of the countertop?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say so.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you've got a cabin quality paint, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: then that's where you should go with that edging piece,

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Speaker 2: because if that's part of the color scheme, then then

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Speaker 2: use that there as well.

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Speaker 1: Does that make sense?

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Speaker 4: Great? Thank you so much for your hop. I really

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Speaker 4: appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: You're so welcome, Lauren. Thank you for the call, really

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Speaker 2: really great question. More of your calls to come. You're

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