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Speaker 1: Welcome to the second week of The Dragon Redbeard Show

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Speaker 1: with the talent Michael D.

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Speaker 2: Brown. You got it. Yeah, second week. Here we go,

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Speaker 2: second week.

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Speaker 3: And I walked into the studio this morning, and I

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Speaker 3: realize that, gosh, I'm just a dumb white guy. I'm

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Speaker 3: a dumb white guy. And apparently some people don't like

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Speaker 3: dumb white guys. They just don't like white guys at all.

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Speaker 3: In fact, if you happen to be an oppressed lawyer

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Speaker 3: whose race is black, and you might have gone to

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Speaker 3: a very prestigious school, you work for a large healthcare company,

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Speaker 3: you did a you were just amazing. And then you

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Speaker 3: married a state senator. Yeah, you married the state senator.

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Speaker 3: And of all the places, the wonderful state of Illinois,

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Speaker 3: or some people say Illinois because it is just a

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Speaker 3: bunch of noise out of that state. And then when

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Speaker 3: you suddenly find yourself as the wife of US senator,

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Speaker 3: and then you find yourself as floatus, floatus, that's that's

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Speaker 3: not what you get when you got a stuffy No,

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Speaker 3: that's that's flam. I'm not talking about phlam. I'm talking

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Speaker 3: about floatus. Michelle Obama has decided that she stridently wants

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Speaker 3: us to know that she dislikes white people for oppressing

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Speaker 3: her hair. Now what I find really fascinated about how

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Speaker 3: about her upset about her hair is she goes on well,

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Speaker 3: and by the way, Caucasians are not the only people

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Speaker 3: that she holds in disdain. You know, we have three

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Speaker 3: races we have We have Caucasian, Negroid, and Mongoloid. Those

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Speaker 3: are the three categories of races. Everything else is an

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Speaker 3: ethnicity or a subset of those three categories. But it's

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Speaker 3: not only Caucasians that she holds in disdain. The whole

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Speaker 3: country apparently has a whole lot of growing up to

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Speaker 3: do because we didn't elect Kamala Harris based on her

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Speaker 3: DEI crudentials. I don't know where she's at, Michelle my Belle,

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Speaker 3: I don't know who she's speaking to.

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Speaker 2: I frankly don't care.

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Speaker 3: But over an X, I discover that well, as she

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Speaker 3: sits in a designer outfit with some sort of Kate

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Speaker 3: lecture us.

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Speaker 4: Do you think that that impacts the room that we've

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Speaker 4: made for a woman to be president? Well, as we

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Speaker 4: saw in this past election, sadly, we ain't ready. That's

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Speaker 4: why I'm like, don't even look at me about running,

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Speaker 4: because you all are lying you're not ready.

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Speaker 2: For a woman.

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Speaker 4: You are not, So don't waste my time. You know,

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Speaker 4: we got a lot of growing up to do, and

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Speaker 4: there's still, I'm sadly a lot of men who do

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Speaker 4: not feel like they can be led by a woman.

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Speaker 2: And we saw it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let me just pause for a moment. I think

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Speaker 3: I speak for both Dragon and myself. We are both

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Speaker 3: led by women. I also have to chime in here too.

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Speaker 5: It's like my mother is was a franchisey owner of

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Speaker 5: Subway sandwiches for almost thirty years, and she got her

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Speaker 2: In the eighties.

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Speaker 5: So you can't tell me that women can't lead or

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Speaker 5: women are oppressed by men. No, it's been going on,

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Speaker 5: and it's been happening.

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Speaker 2: For forty years. Did you get did you get your

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Speaker 2: red head from your mother or your father father's side,

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Speaker 2: father's side?

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Speaker 3: Okay, so your mother was obviously Caucasian. Yeah, so she

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Speaker 3: had white privilege. So that's that. And I suppose the

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Speaker 3: last time I was in Subway now, I think you

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Speaker 3: can get whole wheat bread buns, but I bet at

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Speaker 3: the time, it was just white buns.

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Speaker 2: I bet all your mother sould was just white buns.

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Speaker 2: What was it? Just white buns? And if you went

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Speaker 2: in there and you wanted.

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Speaker 3: Brown bread, no no, no, no, no no, you can't

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Speaker 3: have that, just white buns. So don't give me this

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Speaker 3: crap about how your mother was all. You know, she

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Speaker 3: was in the eight and she was a leader and

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Speaker 3: everything else, because I mean, look at you, Look at

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Speaker 3: what the loser you are.

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Speaker 2: So you know, it's Monday morning and I'm on a

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Speaker 2: roll already, here we go. What was a question? So

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Speaker 2: we don't need to ask it again? Yeah, we don't

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Speaker 2: need to ask you again. Now.

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Speaker 3: In response to a question that was framing the presidential

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Speaker 3: election strictly in terms of gender, she calls out this, well,

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Speaker 3: as we saw in this past election, sadly, we ain't ready.

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Speaker 3: That's why I'm like, I don't even look at me

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Speaker 3: about running because you all are lying. You're not ready

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Speaker 3: You know, we got a lot of growing up to do.

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Speaker 3: They're never going to be satisfied. I don't care what

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Speaker 3: I don't care what you think your gender is. Apparently

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Speaker 3: unless you fit some particular ideology or something on the

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Speaker 3: spectrum of what ever, then we're just not ready. Remember

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Speaker 3: she infamously proclaimed during the Obama campaign, gots that, doesn't

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Speaker 3: that seem on there? You know?

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Speaker 2: I remember the night.

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Speaker 3: That I was watching the election when Obama won, and

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Speaker 3: I knew he's gonna win.

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Speaker 2: But it's one of.

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Speaker 3: Those things where you're watching a horse race and your

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Speaker 3: horse is like four links behind, and you know your

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Speaker 3: horse isn't gonna win, but you just keep thinking that

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Speaker 3: maybe the maybe the first place horse is going to stumble,

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Speaker 3: something's going to happen, And so I just keep watching

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Speaker 3: the returns, knowing that mathematically it's not gonna change.

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Speaker 2: Sean McCain is not gonna win, but I.

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Speaker 3: Just keep you know, I just falsely keep convincing myself

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Speaker 3: that it is. But you and that seems like decades ago,

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Speaker 3: doesn't it.

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Speaker 2: It seems like so long ago.

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Speaker 3: Well remember when she claimed the quote for the first

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Speaker 3: time in my adult life, I'm proud of my country.

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Speaker 5: Well, well, there was a there was also this quote

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Speaker 5: by his then vice president, he got.

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Speaker 6: The first start a stream America here he was articulate

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Speaker 6: and bright and clean vice looking guy.

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Speaker 2: He's clean.

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Speaker 3: I mean, let's start with the fact that he was

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Speaker 3: half white and half black. Although everybody likes to refer

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Speaker 3: to miss black, let's start without that he is black.

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Speaker 3: And there is Joe Biden soon to be his vice

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Speaker 3: president and then soon to be the corpse in Weekend

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Speaker 3: with Bernie's that occupied the White House for a while

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Speaker 3: and is saying that he was clean. Now, remember, he's black,

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Speaker 3: he's clean, and he's articulate. He's one of the first

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Speaker 3: and only clean, black, articulate blacks I've ever met. And

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Speaker 3: nobody calls out Joe Biden for the racism for the

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Speaker 3: first time in my life, in my adult life, I

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Speaker 3: am proud of my country. Now that she's no longer

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Speaker 3: I think, well, I think the feeling out of being mutual.

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Speaker 3: The former first ingrat, I mean, I'm sorry, the former

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Speaker 3: to elect a profoundly terrible presidential candidate tympically on the

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Speaker 3: basis of her not being a male but being a female.

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Speaker 3: In addition to that being a mixed female of what

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Speaker 3: was she was black in West Indian or something. I

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Speaker 3: forget what Kamala Harris was. You know what, I forget

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Speaker 3: because it doesn't make any difference.

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Speaker 2: It didn't make any difference to me.

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Speaker 3: What Kamala Harris was in terms of her skin color,

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Speaker 3: or her gender, or what was between her legs or

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Speaker 3: to vote for her because she was incompetent, absolutely incompetent.

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Speaker 3: But it amazes me that she still says these crazy,

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Speaker 3: crazy things about oppression and people just continue to fall

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Speaker 3: for it. Now the same in the same presentation, the

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Speaker 3: wife of the historic first black president will never forgive

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Speaker 3: Caucasians for handing her fame and fortune, probably on an

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Speaker 3: affirmative action basis. She still festers with hostility's She even

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Speaker 3: went on in that same presentation to accuse Caucasians of

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Speaker 3: oppressing her hair. Yes, no, not pressing her hair, oppressing

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Speaker 3: oppressing her hair. Now, what's interesting is when you when

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Speaker 3: you look at these which I assume that mister Redbeard

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Speaker 3: at some point might put these up on Michael says

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Speaker 3: go here dot com, which, by the way, Dragon I

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Speaker 3: discovered over the weekend that at least on the computers downstairs.

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Speaker 3: When you go to uh six thirty khow do station

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Speaker 3: And that sometimes that some computers. When you say Michael says,

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Speaker 3: go here dot com, it'll go to here. Other places

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Speaker 3: down there, it goes over there. I figure that one out,

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Speaker 3: think of that one out. I don't get it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, we're oppressing her hair, yes, she said she felt obligated.

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Speaker 3: Obligated now under what you're the former first lady of

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Speaker 3: the United States of America, the wife of the first

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Speaker 3: essensibly black president of the United States of America. Your

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Speaker 3: husband is building this monstrasity. He looks like some sort

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Speaker 2: You can go in.

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Speaker 3: So I'm not really sure what's going on with Chicago

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Speaker 3: and that monolith that he's building. But anyway, she appears

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Speaker 3: in this forum whatever she's at, and her hair is

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Speaker 3: but there were certainly women in there, and she felt

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Speaker 3: like she still has to straighten her hair. I have

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Speaker 3: news for her. I don't care what her hair looks like.

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Speaker 3: So prepare to be educated.

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Speaker 2: She says.

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Speaker 3: Let me explain something to white people. Our hair comes

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Speaker 3: out of our head naturally in a curly pattern. So

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Speaker 3: when we're straightening it to follow your beauty standards, we

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Speaker 3: are trapped by the straightness. So because of whites, blacks

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Speaker 3: can't swim or go to the gym either. Did you

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Speaker 3: know that?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 3: I learned so much over the weekend. It was fascinating,

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Speaker 3: she says, And we run away from the water. People

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Speaker 3: won't go to the gym because we're trying to keep

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Speaker 3: our hair straight. For y'all, it's exhausting, and it's so expensive,

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Speaker 3: and it takes up so much time, she whined, and

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Speaker 3: then she went on to suggest that was in the

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Speaker 3: best interest of white people to allow black women to

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Speaker 3: abandon these alleged beauty expects.

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Speaker 2: AISHO.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Michelle, I hereby, if you're going to grant me

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Speaker 3: that much power as his gendered white male, then I'll

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Speaker 3: exercise that power, and I hereby bestow upon you the

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Speaker 3: permission to let your hair go curly.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 3: Oh wait, wait, wait a minute, no wait, she's a Democrat,

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Speaker 3: so we need to do it coercively. She went on

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Speaker 3: to say, braves are for you all so we can

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Speaker 3: work harder and focus on the work. So why do

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Speaker 3: we need to Why do we need an act, an

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Speaker 3: act of law, to tell white folks to get out

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Speaker 3: of our hair. She's apparently referring to the Insane Crown Act,

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Speaker 3: which would establish special legal privileges for blacks on the

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Speaker 3: basis of their hairstyles. It actually passed in the House,

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Speaker 3: but it was stopped in the Senate by, of all things,

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Speaker 3: the filibuster. Yes, some people stood up and said, why

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Speaker 3: why why are we establishing that you have to have

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Speaker 3: special privileges for blocks based upon their hairstyles. I don't

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Speaker 8: is like homework for me. Anyway, at the end of

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Speaker 8: your eleven AM hour, there's this really shrill, shrieky voice

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Speaker 8: that comes through, and I don't get to listen to

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Speaker 8: the end of the podcast. I was wondering if y'all

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Speaker 8: could just find that and squash it. Anyway, if it

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Speaker 8: saved one goober, wouldn't it be worth it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it would be worth it. It'd be very much

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Speaker 3: worth it. Margaret Brennan over on Face the Nation this weekend,

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Speaker 3: talks to a Democrat lawmaker about the Epstein files and posits.

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Speaker 9: This, well, but private healthcare costs are also going up,

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Speaker 9: but on this topic of toxic environments here Congress and

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Speaker 9: Swase Democrats who won elections just a few days ago,

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Speaker 9: credited their wins to this affordability issue and the message

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Speaker 9: focused on that. Can you explain the focus this past

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Speaker 9: week in the House by Democrats on the Jeffrey Epstein files.

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Speaker 9: Is this a tactic to distract from the failure to

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Speaker 9: attract healthcare changes or is there something else going on here?

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Speaker 9: I mean, does this speaker putting it to a vote

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Speaker 9: end this issue?

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Speaker 2: Wow?

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Speaker 3: Real journalism for a moment, real journalism. Are you just

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Speaker 3: focused on Epstein to distract because so far there's been

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Speaker 3: nothing there? And you know, the a real issue is

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Speaker 3: healthcare and the Obamacare subsidies.

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Speaker 2: So why are you so focused on Epstein? What's there?

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Speaker 10: I think it's a combination of factors of people shining

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Speaker 10: their lights on the most the hot topic at the time.

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Speaker 10: You know, Jeffrey Epstein, of course, is an important topic.

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Speaker 10: I'm sure I'll vote to release his files, but that's

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Speaker 10: not my priority. My priority is to focus on the

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Speaker 10: things that the American people care about, affordability, immigration, taxes, crime,

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Speaker 10: and healthcare.

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Speaker 2: Hm.

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Speaker 3: So Trump decides that he's going to join with the

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Speaker 3: Republicans and call for transparency, release the files, open the files,

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Speaker 3: and then Democrats start appearing on the Sunday news shows

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Speaker 3: and they're like, well, well, you know.

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Speaker 2: This is not me.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's just one of those hot topics people

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Speaker 3: like to talk about. I'm really focused on this, this, this,

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Speaker 3: and this. Well, why does sudden change, why the sudden change.

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Speaker 3: I thought this was going to I thought this was

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Speaker 3: going to show that Donald Trump was a pedophile, and

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Speaker 3: then we were going to, you know, have another impeachment

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Speaker 3: and we're going to kick him out office again.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: So now a journalist ask.

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Speaker 3: You about why, and you avoid the question and say, oh, instead,

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Speaker 3: I almost like about something else here.

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Speaker 10: That's what people are fighting about, That's what they're concerned about.

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Speaker 2: That's what we should be focused on. In Congress.

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Speaker 9: Well, Congressman Bacon is the speaker putting this to a

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Speaker 9: vote and the Epstein issue and get you back onto healthcare.

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Speaker 9: I mean, the speaker said this is all a political exercise.

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Speaker 9: Certainly the families the victims don't think it is.

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Speaker 1: I think the speaker realizes the train has left the

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Speaker 1: station on us. Let's rip the band aid off and

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Speaker 1: get it done now. I wish the President realized that

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Speaker 1: the more the White House pushes back on us, it's

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Speaker 1: you know, it just looks bad.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: So it was the Attorney General counsel on all these

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Speaker 1: white binders.

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Speaker 2: And it does look bad.

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Speaker 3: And it looks bad because the White House messed it

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Speaker 3: up from the very beginning when Pam Bondi came out

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Speaker 3: with cash battel and they had those big white binders.

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Speaker 3: There was nothing new in that that was stuff that

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Speaker 3: was already publicly available, had already been released, but they

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Speaker 3: made it appear as if it was some big up

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Speaker 3: and deal, and it was not, was not at all.

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Speaker 3: So they've watched this from the very beginning, and I

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Speaker 3: don't know why Trump has taken this position. Is he

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Speaker 3: trying to protect the victims, He very well may be.

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Speaker 3: Is he trying to protect a friend, He may well be.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: You're not going to get the grand jury testimony. Just

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Speaker 3: get that out of your head. You're not going to

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Speaker 3: get the grand jury testimony unless we break the ironclad

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Speaker 3: rule that that remains secret so that people are willing

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Speaker 3: and able to testify about things they know about when

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Speaker 3: it comes to criminal investigations, and then releasing the files.

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Speaker 3: Just do it, because if we really believe in transparency,

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Speaker 3: if we really believe in okay, this is a distraction

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Speaker 3: from everything that's going on. If even Margaret Brennan is

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Speaker 3: beginning to believe that it's a distraction from the issues

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Speaker 3: that she would like to talk about, and quite frankly,

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Speaker 3: the issues that I wish we could debate about Obamacare

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Speaker 3: and is it really effective or not effective? And what

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Speaker 3: do the substies get us besides just debt. Then no,

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Speaker 3: let's release the files and get on to the other stuff.

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Speaker 1: You'll release all this information and then a month later,

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Speaker 1: so no, we're not. So it's been a pr blunder

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Speaker 1: from the beginning, and I think the Speaker's right, this.

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Speaker 2: Is going to happen. So let's get it done and

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Speaker 2: vote on it.

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Speaker 1: And we've got to realize this still has to go

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Speaker 1: to the Senate, that has to go to the President

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Speaker 1: for signature. Meanwhile, our Oversight Committee is releasing thousands of

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Speaker 1: thousands of pages of evidence concerning of Stein.

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Speaker 3: So that's going to continue to come out anyway, all

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Speaker 3: the stuff House Oversight Committee continues to investigate, they'll continue

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Speaker 3: to release it. And if this bill does pass, I

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Speaker 3: guarante mn to you, it'll be just fifteen minutes afterwards

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Speaker 3: people will start releasing that information too, So hold on

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Speaker 3: to your hat. And then one final reminder before we

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Speaker 3: go to break, and that is if you want to

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Speaker 3: send me a text message, you have to send it

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Speaker 3: to three three one zero three keyword Mike or Michael

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Speaker 3: three three one zero three I don't read the others