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Speaker 1: Ahead, common man, common man, Now show people solid plan

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Speaker 1: sar cancale secarit approach will fail to in pits.

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Speaker 2: Time a common man, common man, common man, charge the

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Speaker 2: houseless like going can.

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Speaker 1: What is shout? Where we Play's nonsense?

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Speaker 3: I'm deck to day to day and pits time for

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Speaker 2: Why should anybody aspire to be a common man? An

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Speaker 2: average man? Do you realize what it means to be average?

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Speaker 2: That means you're the best of the lousiest and the

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Speaker 2: lousiest of the best. Now, if we demand more and

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Speaker 2: more for producing less and less while they have not

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Speaker 2: nations and courage and inspire and indeed require hard work

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Speaker 2: and maximum effort. If we deify the common man while

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Speaker 2: they encourage and reward the uncommon ones on the end

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Speaker 2: result of such a lupsided race, as that is too

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Speaker 1: I mean it's like hello, I'm a fraud. Yes, you

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Speaker 4: There's somebody when you practice, you'll set up chairs there

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Speaker 4: in your run through chairs with the show zone.

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Speaker 1: The king defense looks.

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Speaker 5: Like a chair.

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Speaker 3: We don't go.

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Speaker 6: All the defensive backs covering are just approaches today for Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: Baker some joker was going to write about what kind

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Speaker 1: of game we said it was going to be. Okay,

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Speaker 3: Now, for those of you from out of town, you

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Speaker 3: know that was a joke, a joke, a joke.

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Speaker 4: Whatever.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about something else, just for me to know,

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Speaker 1: you to find out.

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Speaker 3: Was picking on me.

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Speaker 1: That's stuff for k fan to talk about. And the

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Speaker 1: second guess was and everything like that.

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Speaker 2: Right, I didn't say that common don't put words in

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Speaker 1: You have to dry your own conclusion. People, idiot, moron amba,

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Speaker 1: So what a Morris. Ladies and gentlemen, We got him.

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Speaker 3: Thank you Amsterdam, thank you, Muzzard Law, thank you Moscow,

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Speaker 3: thank you tele Aviv, thank you Warsaw, Thank you tim

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Speaker 3: Buck too.

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Speaker 1: Thank you Walla Walla. That may be colduggery ahead, that

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Speaker 7: He's the clown from Bristown. He's the fourth in the North.

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Speaker 7: This is the common man, Dan Cole. How good could

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Speaker 7: this show be? How successful could it be?

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Speaker 5: If I put as much time and preparation into the

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Speaker 5: I'm adding cucumbers and peppers. I had my wife made

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Speaker 5: of course you do, because they're they're worse for you.

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Speaker 5: Or be midnight, nine thirty, ten thirty, eleven, thirty, twelve

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Speaker 5: Try watching World Series Game three, eighteen innings.

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Speaker 5: And so the first thing I do is I wanted

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Speaker 1: They decided they don't want to shock. Isn't that funny?

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Speaker 1: But how would I have known that the game was

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Speaker 5: Playing Royal Club, I make two wonderful pars to start today.

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Speaker 5: sixty six and I was at forty six. Number three

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Speaker 1: So it's like I can't pretend that well. No, I

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Speaker 5: And I you and I've discussed this. You were the

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Speaker 5: I was totally against it.

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Speaker 5: If you've got King Felix Hernandez on the round, you

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Speaker 5: It makes the game flow better, not as much adjusting

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Speaker 5: But and what I really like now, see, I explained

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Speaker 5: I was tell him this morning there's no ghost runner

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Speaker 5: Says JJ McCarthy in line to start his Vikings quarterback

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Speaker 5: we'll have season ending shoulder surgery. Vikings QB Carson Wentz

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Speaker 5: A source of knowledge of the situation confirmed once played

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Speaker 1: I'm I only am the first person to to mull

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Speaker 5: Why would the medical staff and the coach allows some

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Speaker 5: Rosemer is completely healthy as far as we know. It

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Speaker 1: And again, he wants to play.

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Speaker 5: He wants to be the tough guy, because it's that

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Speaker 5: How bad is his ankle really? And I mean he's like,

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Speaker 5: Nobody knew the severity of Wentz's injury until this final game. Yes,

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Speaker 5: you're fooling yourself. The reason he's not playing is because

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Speaker 5: they're terrified to put him back up there. They're terrified

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Speaker 5: to play him on Sunday against the Lions because they

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Speaker 5: don't think he's ready. When you're when you're in your

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Speaker 5: second year and nine, he didn't play last year because

444
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Speaker 5: he had the knee surgery. But when you're still working

445
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Speaker 5: at what was that thing he did as a kid's

446
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Speaker 5: eyes toast and you're still working with the guys saying,

447
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Speaker 5: now we got to align your eyes with your feet.

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Speaker 5: Let's make sure we have that straight. What does that

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Speaker 5: say about the the the the readiness of JJ McCarthy

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Speaker 5: to play big time National Football League football?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I want him to play.

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Speaker 5: WINZ did did did you see how bad McCarthy was

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Speaker 5: in the first two games he was He had one

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Speaker 5: brilliant quarter. He was simple, I've never seen a quarterback

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Speaker 5: look is lost on a football field, as JJ McCarthy

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Speaker 5: did for those seven quarters.

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Speaker 1: Not saying a lot because we've seen a lot of

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks that are lost.

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Speaker 5: Doesn't mean that he can't continue to learn and get

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Speaker 5: better and maybe become that franchise quarterback. But man, that's

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Speaker 5: I just.

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Speaker 1: Know it's not a good look.

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Speaker 5: I don't think it's a good look at any way,

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Speaker 5: shape or form. Now let's let's take a break and

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Speaker 5: we'll come back. We'll ask Rosan about when he joins

466
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Speaker 5: us at two o'clock. Talk some talk, some more bikings

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Speaker 5: and some wolves after this year.

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Speaker 3: Never shake a baby.

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Speaker 4: often face permanent brain damage. Learn more and give the

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Speaker 1: A couple of thir G fourteen passed I'm coming most ten.

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Speaker 6: Text messages except that at the Bradshaw Brian camp and

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Speaker 6: test text line at six four six eight six one

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Speaker 6: our telephone number.

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Speaker 5: We also booth that CA dot com is an email address,

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Speaker 5: and then the cafe and talkback. If you have the

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Speaker 5: iHeartRadio app, download the fan, make it a preset, look

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Speaker 5: for a search stations, find caffe and make it a preset.

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Speaker 1: And then when you.

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Speaker 5: When you pull us up, you'll see a microphone icon

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Speaker 5: in the corner of the screen. You tap it, you

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Speaker 5: have thirty seconds or Lester delivers message a Leicester who

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Speaker 5: doesn't I'm not sure if he's a doctor or not.

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Speaker 5: He says, an ankle sprain will get worse if it

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Speaker 5: is used, or fracture will not.

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Speaker 1: That's the difference.

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Speaker 5: See he's that's the difference. So I say, well, I

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Speaker 5: wonder if that's true. I wonder if Lester's a doctor.

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Speaker 5: He doesn't identify him as that. So I decided to

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Speaker 5: ask uh Grock Ai and I asked, if you have

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Speaker 5: a fractured shoulder socket, can it get worse with physical activity?

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Speaker 5: And Ai says yes, a fractured shoulder socket can get

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Speaker 5: worse with continued and improper physical activity, leading to more.

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Speaker 1: Pain, delayed healing, or even permanent damage.

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Speaker 5: It is crucial to follow your doctor's guidance and avoid

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Speaker 5: activities that put stress on the fracture until it is

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Speaker 5: healed enough to support those movements. Rushing back to activity

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Speaker 5: too soon can cause further injury to the bone and

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Speaker 5: surrounding soft tissues like the rotator cuff. Also says malunion

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Speaker 5: or nonunion in severe cases, or if the fracture is

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Speaker 5: not healing correctly. Continued stress could lead to the bone

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Speaker 5: healing in the wrong position or.

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Speaker 1: Not healing at all.

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Speaker 5: But you can just go ahead and play with a fracture.

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Speaker 5: According to Lester, there's no problem with doing it. Just

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Speaker 5: keep playing with the fact always. I hope Lester is

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Speaker 5: not a doctor.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he is.

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Speaker 5: He it just and there's the problem. You get people

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Speaker 5: spewing nonsense. Oh no, you can play the fractor. Here's

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Speaker 5: the difference. A sprained ankle is going to get worse

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Speaker 5: if you play on it, So don't play the kid though,

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Speaker 5: didn't I see last year didn't didn't Mahomes severely sprain

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Speaker 5: his ankle and he kept playing. They just taped it up,

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Speaker 5: had him meet some dirt and rubbed a little robotesting

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Speaker 5: on it. There was a game he was playing last night,

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Speaker 5: watched it happen.

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Speaker 4: He played like a whole postseason once with the high

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Speaker 4: ankle spring.

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Speaker 1: You are correct, so stop with that.

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Speaker 4: He might not have been as mobile, right, just like

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Speaker 4: when's he toughened it out exactly to McCarthy was a

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Speaker 4: hockey player.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Doctor Mike writes lost a little bit of respect for

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Speaker 5: Koc on this one. Essentially explained that it was not

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Speaker 5: fair to a young, healthy QB to go in this

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Speaker 5: game situation, which means it was more fair to keep

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Speaker 5: the old, severely injured player in the game instead. Embarrassingly

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Speaker 5: flawed logic from a football standpoint. The fundamental problem here

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Speaker 5: is not the QB. It's the offensive line without effective blocking.

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Speaker 5: The specific QB does not matter much. Have a bad

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Speaker 5: taste in my mouth on this one. I do too.

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Speaker 4: I know.

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Speaker 5: Maybe there's some further explanation that's needed. Someone texted me

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Speaker 5: and said, listen to PA's interview with KOC.

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Speaker 1: Was there something so I heard you did.

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Speaker 4: Talk about it a lot today, and I think try

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Speaker 4: to defend the decision, but I did not hear the conversation.

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Speaker 5: I wonder maybe we should reracket PA does it. Maybe

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Speaker 5: we should find that at two o'clock today. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 5: mean we can still played during with Rosen. I mean,

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Speaker 5: Rosen just has nothing to say anyway, says you know,

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Speaker 5: it's just he's he's going to defend the head coach.

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Speaker 5: He's going to defend the wolves lack of defensive accountability.

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Speaker 5: Speaking of that, they lost again last night. Tennabe, I'm

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Speaker 5: not sure if you saw that.

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Speaker 1: And again I.

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Speaker 5: Shorthanded Timberwolves can't help keep up with Nuggets in one

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Speaker 5: twenty seven one fourteen lost. Jamal Murray scored forty three

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Speaker 5: points for Denver on not having to deal with Anthony

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Speaker 5: Edwards defending. So apparently because Anthony Edwards was out, we

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Speaker 5: can't expect a professional defensive performance. Timberwls knocked Denver out

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Speaker 5: of the playoffs two seasons ago. Denver finally got one

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Speaker 5: back against Monday night. Anthony Edwards missed the game because

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Speaker 5: of a right hamstring strain. Jamal Murray had forty three points,

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Speaker 5: including twenty three in the third quarter, where he was

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Speaker 5: sixteen for twenty nine from the field. Joker at a

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Speaker 5: triple double with twenty five points, nineteen boards, and ten assists.

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Speaker 5: Jade McDaniels had twenty five for the Wolves. Julius Randall

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Speaker 5: added twenty four. Nasried added eighteen off the bench. The

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Speaker 5: third quarter was all Nuggets, specifically all Murray. He torched

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Speaker 5: the Wolves, and when he wasn't shooting, Tim Hardaway Junior was.

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Speaker 5: He added fifteen as Denver score forty five points. The

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Speaker 5: Wolves were going were going under screens on Murray and

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Speaker 5: leaving him to double Joker. At other times he made

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Speaker 5: them pay. Denver extended to lead to one less been

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Speaker 5: one oh one, forcing a Wolf's time out was seven

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Speaker 5: thirty one to play, and the Nuggets coasted from there.

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Speaker 1: With Edwards out commonly made the first. Mike Commley made

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Speaker 1: his first start of the season.

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Speaker 5: Finish City made the decision to start calmly in part

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Speaker 5: because it's comfortable for us to have Commley on the floor.

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Speaker 5: Rob Dillingham saw his first rotation shift of the season.

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Speaker 5: He sat out Sunday's game because of a fractured nose

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Speaker 5: he suffered in Friday's game against the Lakers. His fractured

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Speaker 5: nose couldn't get any worse, There's no I mean, even

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Speaker 5: if he got hit on the nose again, it wouldn't

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Speaker 5: hurt at all anymore. Because the thing with the fracture

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Speaker 5: is Tennaby. It doesn't get any worse.

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Speaker 1: I always love that one. Jalen Clark was.

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Speaker 5: A late scratch because of left calf tightness, Edwards Absentceman,

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Speaker 5: the Wolves relied more on McDaniels to carry the offense.

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Speaker 1: Blah blah blah, defensive issues here it is to four games.

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Speaker 5: The Wolves defense has hardly looked like the unit of

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Speaker 5: the past few seasons, even with Edwards out. The Wolves

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Speaker 5: should have, should have, should have, have, shouldn't have had

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Speaker 5: what I think they meant to say here this much

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Speaker 5: lipitche on that end of the floor. For the second

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Speaker 5: time in four games, they allowed an opponent to score

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Speaker 5: one hundred points by the end of the third quarter,

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Speaker 5: one hundred points by the end of the third quarter.

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Speaker 5: The forty five points they gave from the third was

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Speaker 5: the most they have allowed in one quarter, and second

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Speaker 5: time this season they allowed a forty point quarter. It

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Speaker 5: is defense is optional for the Wolves, apparently because the

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Speaker 5: coach can do nothing about it. The coach complained about

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Speaker 5: it after that embarrassing performance against.

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Speaker 1: The Lakers.

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Speaker 5: He said, well, no movement, none of the you know

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Speaker 5: whatever he went through the you know, the coach speak

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Speaker 5: about what they weren't doing, and yet apparently the team

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Speaker 5: doesn't listen to him, because I would think, I, you're

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Speaker 5: the coach, would.

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Speaker 1: Say, guys, we got to play a little.

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Speaker 5: Let's let's let's try it up our defensive effort a

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Speaker 5: little bit. And if you remember, Devincenzo said, he goes, well,

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Speaker 5: we just didn't put.

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Speaker 1: Forth the effort.

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Speaker 5: And that just seems to be a that just seems

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Speaker 5: to be a problem with this team more than any

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Speaker 5: other team that I think I've ever followed in all sports,

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Speaker 5: regardless of the sport, regardless of the level of it.

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Speaker 1: This team refuses to play defense. They don't want and.

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Speaker 5: Apparently they were really there was a time they were

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Speaker 5: a really good defensive team.

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Speaker 4: Why don't they Well, this should be They got Rudy Gobert,

622
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Speaker 4: who has been what four time defensive Player of the year.

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Speaker 4: Jade McDaniels just thought of to be a really good

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Speaker 4: defensive player. They have like two cornerstones on defense. Didn't

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Speaker 4: they have like a Kumbai a dinner meeting before the

626
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Speaker 4: season to talk about stuff like this? Do you remember that?

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Speaker 4: And Conley talked about what they they sat down and

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Speaker 4: they said, committing themselves.

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Speaker 5: They said, do we want to commit to winning a

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Speaker 5: championship or do we just want to have showtime. I

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Speaker 5: don't think you should even have to have that conversation,

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Speaker 5: particularly when you're a team that's been in the Western

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Speaker 5: Conference Finals two years in a row. You would think

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Speaker 5: you're you know, you got to the door, you knocked

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Speaker 5: on the door, you want to kick it in, But

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Speaker 5: you actually have to discuss so we want to keep

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Speaker 5: trying to win a championship, or so we just go

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Speaker 5: out and just have fun and do hord globe trotters

639
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 5: kind of stuff. Not play defense, because that just apparently

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Speaker 5: what they're apparently they're trying to do right now. It's

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Speaker 5: I don't know how anybody enjoys following this team until

642
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 5: they put a concerted effort on the defensive end of

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Speaker 5: the floor for more than a game or two. I

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Speaker 5: just don't think it's I have zero interest in in

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Speaker 5: in in watching this club play. This one says, I

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Speaker 5: love what you guys are cooking up this afternoon. I

647
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 5: was furious listening in to Love Covenant this morning. Maybe

648
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 5: I should have listened instead of playing, yeah, playing golf.

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00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 5: This one says, can I nominate both of you for

650
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 5: preposterous statement for comparing mahomes playing on a spring ankle

651
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Speaker 5: means JJ should be able to play ah Yes, because

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Speaker 5: they're the same skill level as quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: Nobody said they were the same level of quarterbacks.

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Speaker 5: It doesn't matter what level of quarterback you are, if

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Speaker 5: you if one guy can play in a spring ankle

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Speaker 5: in another can't.

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Speaker 4: It's also proving my point that it was never all

658
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Speaker 4: about health. Yeah, they tried to act like it was. No,

659
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 4: we're going to wait till he's a hundercent healthy. No,

660
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 4: it's he's not one hundred percent of healthy. Plus, we

661
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 4: don't really like the way you played the first two games.

662
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 4: We think Carson Wentz has a better chance of help

663
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 4: is win and that's the difference. Even though you're making

664
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 4: our point, even with a torn labram and a fractured

665
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 4: shoulder socks. Yes, I still think he's all in a

666
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 4: separated shoulder. Who knows what other maladies he had because

667
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,280
Speaker 4: of the injury discrepancy. If they thought J. J. McCarthy

668
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,479
Speaker 4: gave them the best chance to win, he's playing yep

669
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 4: against the Chargers.

670
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 1: You're absolutely correct.

671
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 4: Give him that one guy needs season ending surgery and

672
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 4: the other one has an ankle sprace and he's five

673
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 4: weeks into his ankle spring, and.

674
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 5: As it said in the story, he knew what was

675
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 5: going to require season ending service decided to play anyways

676
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 5: because the team needed a for one we need you

677
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 5: one more game.

678
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 1: You got to give us one more. Can you give

679
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: us one more? Can you? Can you play through the

680
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 1: pain one more game?

681
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 5: Because they didn't because they and it goes to show

682
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 5: you and there were a number of listeners who said

683
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 5: when you and I were talking about, well, you can't

684
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 5: give up on the season. And part of that logic

685
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 5: I think for me and I think for you as

686
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 5: well as because the team isn't going to give up

687
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:26,760
Speaker 5: on the season.

688
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 1: Teams don't give up when they're when they're three numbers.

689
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 5: They just don't know when you're a game, a game

690
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 5: and a half out of first place, and they shouldn't know,

691
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 5: and they shouldn't.

692
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: You've got to play it out a little bit, and

693
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:46,919
Speaker 1: so I so that's why for the way, the way

694
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: I think we both.

695
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 5: Looked at it was Okay, he's got a high ankle

696
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 5: spring and he hasn't played very well once he was

697
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 5: two and one in his first three games, so he

698
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 5: helped him win two games. One is a fourth quarter,

699
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 5: so l's not bad. Yeah, So at that point, I'm like,

700
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,280
Speaker 5: may as well put him back out there again, especially

701
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 5: if McCarthy's not healthy. Plus, I don't really like what

702
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 5: I saw with McCarthy in those first two games. And

703
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,280
Speaker 5: as you and I said at the time, there's plenty

704
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 5: of time to see McCarthy. Everybody wants to see him. Guys,

705
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 5: what we got in him, Well, now we're going to

706
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 5: get plenty of time to see him. Had Wentz not

707
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 5: been that shoulder injury was way worse than we.

708
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: Were led to believe. And so I thought, Okay, he's

709
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: got a bad left shoulder, big deal.

710
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 5: He can still drop back, throw hand off, do all that,

711
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 5: and he as well keep playing him because he was

712
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 5: two and one.

713
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 1: Well, then he lost the two games, and you saw

714
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: how bad.

715
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 5: I mean, the first time he hit the ground against

716
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 5: San Diego, he was writhing in paint, that's how bad

717
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 5: it was. And the coach said, I kept going up

718
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 5: to him in the medicals, can you make any play?

719
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,280
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I can play? Well, what do you expect

720
00:36:55,360 --> 00:37:01,359
Speaker 5: him to say? That's why football players are they're they're

721
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 5: they're they're they're they're gonna.

722
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: Say they can go.

723
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 5: So anyway, we'll see what It'll be interesting to see

724
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 5: what the mobility is like for JJ McCarthy. Oh, he

725
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 5: should be healthy. We should be It'll be like six

726
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 5: weeks at that point. But if but they said he

727
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 5: wasn't ready to go, like because I remember they they Yeah,

728
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 5: I don't believe them, I know, but I'm saying they

729
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 5: said they had him practice, he went through drills, and

730
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 5: they didn't like what they saw. I didn't think he

731
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 5: was healthy enough to play. So now magically, I guess

732
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 5: he's going to be ready. That one more week is

733
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 5: going to be enough.

734
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,919
Speaker 4: And I'm just telling you, we'll see those offensive linmen

735
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:44,280
Speaker 4: are magically healthy as well.

736
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: And this Detroit defense gets after it, it'll.

737
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 5: McCarthy better be mobile because, like you say, with the

738
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 5: offensive line the way it is, if if O'Neill can't play, and.

739
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 4: Darius says on a pitch count, on a pitch count, I.

740
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 5: Think, I think I think the makings are in big

741
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,839
Speaker 5: trouble come so, but maybe not. You know, strange things

742
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 5: have happened. Maybe all of a sudden, McCarthy would be

743
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 5: brilliant line of propriety the season Yeah, it could be.

744
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 1: Could be the game where all of a sudden we

745
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: go for.

746
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 4: I think we're a contender after this week.

747
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 1: I don't know what we're playing for.

748
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 5: For the montage on Friday, but we might be playing

749
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 5: nothing's going to stop us now on Monday. It's it's

750
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 5: distinctly possible. I I I think it's unlikely, but it's possible.

751
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 1: Anything can happen. But yeah, I am, and I really

752
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 1: don't you know they asked about broser right yep, and

753
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 1: the coach. I don't have the exact quotes for me.

754
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 5: I could dig them up, but it's it's it would

755
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 5: take me a few minutes here and then we'd have

756
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 5: to play the intermission music.

757
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah.

758
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 5: But he said something to the fact that it just

759
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 5: wouldn't be fair to Bros with the with with his

760
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 5: lack of experience, to put him in a situation like that.

761
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: But at least he wasn't he didn't ever fractured.

762
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's fair to put Carson out there.

763
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:20,879
Speaker 1: I guess it's it's I. I the thing when bros

764
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 1: were at least he was healthy.

765
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 5: He didn't have a fractured shoulder socket and a torn

766
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 5: labor him and a dislocated shoulder. Matt Wentz, I don't

767
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,280
Speaker 5: know what he was wearing, if that was just created.

768
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:35,800
Speaker 5: I don't know if that's if that was real apparass

769
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 5: because he had said I've never worn anything like that

770
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 5: in my life, So I think maybe they just put

771
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,240
Speaker 5: that together in a back room over at Winter Parts

772
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 5: said well, we got to figure something to protect. Well,

773
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 5: let's get these straps here, let's put some padding here,

774
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 5: and let's just stitch something together and see if we

775
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 5: can protect his shoulder, like I said.

776
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 4: Even the show injuries, there was also a report that

777
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 4: even before the shoulder injuries, might have been the first

778
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 4: game he played in that he hurt his ribs and

779
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 4: I remember that, I remember him taking a hit. I

780
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,320
Speaker 4: think it was the Bengals game where he was wincing

781
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 4: with the he was wincing. Wentz was wincing again at

782
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 4: some ribs stuff. That alone would be painful as a

783
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 4: quarterback to be playing through a rib injury.

784
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 5: Not defending the decision to keep wins in. Is that

785
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 5: possible the differences, JJ wouldn't be able to run for

786
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,479
Speaker 5: his life behind this line with an ankle and wins

787
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 5: at least could.

788
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 4: I'll say it again, I have no problem with Carson

789
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 4: Wentz starting the game. There were kind of in a

790
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 4: situation where if you want to be a playoff team,

791
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 4: you got to win games. I have no problems with

792
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 4: players playing injured, playing hurt if you think he gives

793
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 4: you the best chance to win. Now, that doesn't say

794
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,280
Speaker 4: a whole lot about JJ McCarthy if that's the case.

795
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 4: But if you think he gives you the best chance

796
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 4: to win, even if he's half injured to do it.

797
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 4: There does come a point in the game though, where

798
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 4: he's getting absolutely killed. He's writhing in pain after every series,

799
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 4: after taking hits, and the game is over. You need

800
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 4: to pull him at that point, and you put in

801
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 4: the healthy quarterback. If you're afraid of Max brozer In

802
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 4: not being able to handle that moment, then run the

803
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 4: ball every time, yeah, or do quick passes where he's

804
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:23,959
Speaker 4: not going to get touched. But there was no rhyme

805
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 4: or reason why Winston get pulled until the two minute

806
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,919
Speaker 4: warning in the fourth quarter. That should have happened earlier. Yeah,

807
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 4: And it's not even a who gives you the best

808
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 4: chance to win at that point playing to win. It's

809
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 4: he like it wasn't going to get better keeping him

810
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 4: out there.

811
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 5: Alec Lewis reported that there's been tension in the locker

812
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 5: room all season. Has there really, I'm supposed to I've

813
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 5: heard a little of it. Really, Yeah, do I know

814
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 5: what the tensions about? Just because the team's.

815
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: Matter being the coaching staff are m interesting.

816
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 5: We'll see what Rosen thinks about all this. He's he's

817
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 5: extended family. He's he's plugged in over Winter Park. We'll

818
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 5: talk to him.

819
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,280
Speaker 1: He joins the snacks here in the common en portament

820
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: family