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Speaker 1: The National Hockey League season is upon us. I think

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Speaker 1: there was. Was it yesterday? Three games? Wild open tonight?

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Speaker 1: Right here on the flagship FM one hundred point three,

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Speaker 1: the fan on the road against the Saint Louis Blues.

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Speaker 1: At I said earlier the Checker Dome. That was just

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Speaker 1: a joke. I missed the Checker Dome. I love that place. Checkerdome,

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Speaker 1: Russo Radio, I assume has been imploded. It's not up

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 1: I got to hear. I'm sorry. I thought he was

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Speaker 1: on the special system. My bad, Sorry about that, Russo.

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Speaker 1: The Checkerdome does it still exist?

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Speaker 2: The Ram Stadium? Uh?

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Speaker 1: No, the old hockey arena that the Blues used to

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Speaker 1: play in back in the Dome.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was. I was thinking because I'm looking out

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Speaker 2: was like, I'm like, no ite exists. And last time

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Speaker 2: I thought you were making a joke, because one of

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Speaker 2: the last times I was here, i'd put out a

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Speaker 2: picture and I said nice football stadium, and Blues fans

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Speaker 2: wanted to string me up from the arch. I know

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Speaker 2: the checker is long gone, and this is uh, it's funny.

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Speaker 2: I've never I was never at that, you know, there

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Speaker 2: at all, and this arena has had about twenty five

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Speaker 2: games since I started coming here. It was a Keel

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Speaker 2: But yeah, it's long gone.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I figured it was all right, let's get the

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Speaker 1: injury stuff out of the way early. Who's available tonight,

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Speaker 1: who isn't, and who's going to be out for how long?

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Speaker 2: U Niko Sturm. It sounds like he's gonna go U

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Speaker 2: under the night for for a back injury. You know,

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Speaker 2: most they basically are saying six to eight weeks. So

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Speaker 2: that's that's really disappointing. You know, he was there, their

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Speaker 2: guy that was supposed to really help cure a lot

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Speaker 2: and you know, brought up a couple of Stanley Cup

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Speaker 2: know he was super excited to get going here and

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Speaker 2: he got hurt first day of camp, so they really

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Speaker 2: haven't had him all up training camp and Zukerella is out.

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Speaker 2: He's going to see the doctor tonight to try to

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Speaker 2: get an update. I know that he was quoted in

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Speaker 2: Norway saying that he thinks he'll be back sooner than

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Speaker 2: the two months that the Wild say he's going to

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Speaker 2: be back. He's thinking, you know, early to mid November.

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Speaker 2: So we'll see what the doc says tonight. And Brodein

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Speaker 2: is not going to play tonight, but it sounds like

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Speaker 2: he's very, very close. I'm probably going to play on

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Speaker 2: the home stand against Columbus on Saturday or LA on Monday.

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Speaker 1: All right, fair enough. I don't have we talked since

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Speaker 1: the the Gushers contract extension. I don't think we have.

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Speaker 2: I don't think so. Yeah, I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: So did we assume this was coming? Is this something

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Speaker 1: the Wild kind of had to do? Are they doing

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Speaker 1: it sooner than they really need to? And what are

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Speaker 1: the larger ramifications regarding how we feel about the kid goaltender? Well?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean no, this was definitely a well well

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Speaker 2: uh telegraphed route camp even before camp or I did

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Speaker 2: a story in August where I sat down with gus

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Speaker 2: and I put in there that you know, sources told

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Speaker 2: in camp, and then you know, Bill Garon usually works

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Speaker 2: It took a couple of days to get it done.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I know it's a sticker shot to

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Speaker 2: some fans to give him six point eight million and

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Speaker 2: that is actually under market value for what goalies are

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Speaker 2: wild needed to get on the goalie market next summer

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Speaker 2: is absolutely barren. Obviously, Bebrosky's going to stay, figure out

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Speaker 2: a way to stay in Florida. Jacob Markstrom is gonna

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Speaker 2: then you know it's pretty much Skinner or Pickard and

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Speaker 2: Skinner's obviously you've taken the Edvents into a couple Stanley

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Speaker 2: So there really was it was. It was kind of

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Speaker 2: fans could say, well, jessper Valstadt and Jess, we're still here.

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Speaker 2: As I just said, goaltending. There's a dearth of it

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Speaker 2: And so if you can you know, let's just say

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Speaker 2: another really good trade asset. So and even on his

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Speaker 2: his first two or three years North American pro hockey

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Speaker 2: they don't know what they have in him, but they

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Speaker 1: The wild as you know, you well know better than

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Speaker 1: most got off to a terrific start last year and

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Speaker 1: impossible to match that start? How concerned are you about

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Speaker 2: I'm concerned. I don't love their depth right now. Plus

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Speaker 2: they have, you know, on their at least their opening

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Speaker 2: So he sometimes just scares you with his turnovers, you know,

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Speaker 2: And so with Nico out now you have Hunter Hate

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Speaker 2: reported in the last two days in the Athletic a

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Speaker 2: to two and a half, wouldn't come here. He's since

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Speaker 2: the fact that Bill Garren tried to do that tells

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Speaker 2: And so you know that big starts are very very

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Speaker 2: do think that Bill right now is already scouring the

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Speaker 2: to see if he can maybe get some center help.

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Speaker 2: But for now, you know, Ogen's gonna get a chance,

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Speaker 2: that would lower the you know, you know, the urgency

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Speaker 1: I've heard you talk about this, but maybe even earlier

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Speaker 1: we certainly know that. But is it a kind of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that's definitely not what his cup of

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Speaker 2: because Liam Ogrean and Denal e're Off in camp didn't

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Speaker 2: seven shots, no points in his five preseason games. Eure

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Speaker 2: And so they now are starting in the fourth line.

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Speaker 2: fact that these two at twenty one years old, I

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Speaker 2: don't think this is anything that anybody needs to panic about.

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Speaker 2: You know, there are a lot of people that labeled

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Speaker 2: Marco Rossi at bus too, but look, these guys are young.

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Speaker 2: In Eurof's case, he hasn't been you know, he's not

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Speaker 2: if you can always afford to have Boldy and Caprice

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Speaker 2: doesn't exactly love that, even though I'm sure he's very

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Speaker 2: very happy with his with his contract and and but

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Speaker 2: you know, even in the inside the locker room, I'm

433
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Speaker 2: sure there are players that talk about this. There's no

434
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Speaker 2: doubt about it. You know, he's making ten million dollars

435
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Speaker 2: more than Matt Bowldie. That's that's pretty crazy.

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Speaker 1: I assume you're just delighted that there's an actual game

437
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Speaker 1: to cover tonight, right regular season?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, the only bad part about today

439
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Speaker 2: is that there's there's twenty eight teams going fourteen games,

440
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Speaker 2: and I wish I could watch them all. Yeah, so

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Speaker 2: I'm only going to get to watch one. But yeah, no,

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm super excited. I love the opening night every

443
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Speaker 2: single time. I love I love loss of the privilege

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Speaker 2: of being in any building, whether it's home or away,

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Speaker 2: for their opening night ceremonies. It's just it's just a cool,

446
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Speaker 2: cool thing.

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Speaker 1: Thirty one years is this year? Thirty one?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? My thirty first season. Yeah, yeah, that's increased.

449
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Speaker 1: And you're like, you're like thirty five years old. It's unbelievable.

450
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Speaker 2: I know, I story when I was in the womb.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty much. You haven't aged a bit. It's remarkable, No, I.

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Speaker 2: Know, uh, you know, except for the entire baulding of

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Speaker 2: the top.

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Speaker 1: Of the Yeah, yeah, way at everything that'll happen. Have

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Speaker 1: fun tonight. I appreciate you all. Talk next week. Thanks

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Speaker 1: Russo Russo Radio from Saint Louis, Missouri, where the Wild

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Speaker 1: will open the twenty twenty five twenty six season. All

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Speaker 1: of the action including I'm sure, I'm sure, just wonderful fallness, pregame,

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Speaker 1: in game, between periods, postgame commentary, analysis, yeah, interviews, or

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Speaker 1: is he taking opening night off because a lot of

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Speaker 1: times we find out he's not even there.

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Speaker 3: Not only did he not take the night off, he

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Speaker 3: filled in for the Paul Allen Project Today.

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Speaker 1: I understand there was absolutely zero basketball basketball talk. According

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Speaker 1: to his world nine to noon basketball doesn't even exist.

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Speaker 3: Basketball, football, baseball, tennis, golf, real world, nothing existed. I

467
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Speaker 3: heard more about the New York Islanders today than I

468
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Speaker 3: think I've heard in the last ten years.

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Speaker 1: Combined with compliment, I don't doubt it.

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Speaker 3: You can join the Meat Sauce Fleet Farm in Hastings,

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Speaker 3: Craig Kilbourne's hometown, this Saturday for their Octoberfest celebration. He'll

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Speaker 3: be there noon to two for the opening of toy

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Speaker 3: Land Yard Games and more. Full details at KFA dot

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Speaker 3: com keyword Calendar.

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Speaker 1: A lot of really good, juicy quarterback discussion early in

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Speaker 1: the broadcast, including a good visit with Sean Salisbury that

477
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Speaker 1: centered on that very issue as well. The beauty of

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Speaker 1: it is we got nothing of the time. Vikings do

479
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Speaker 1: not play this week. Their next game is a week

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Speaker 1: from this coming Sunday against the Eagles. Is that a

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Speaker 1: primetime game? No, No, I believe that's our first noon

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Speaker 1: game out Yep, that's disrespectful, although the Eagles are a

483
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Speaker 1: little bit weird right now too. The team your hand, well,

484
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Speaker 1: the coach you hate, uh had a coach I'm finally No, No,

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Speaker 1: I mean the team beat them last week. Denver had

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Speaker 1: a terrific fourth quarter. They didn't they score like twenty one,

487
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Speaker 1: twenty four they scored. They took over that game and

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Speaker 1: that was a mess. In Philly, ar Peyton was at

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Speaker 1: his worst at the end. Who was Peyton? My guy?

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Speaker 1: Your guy? Well, they played great and they they they

491
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Speaker 1: got some help. You're never going to give him anything,

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Speaker 1: are you. Well, I'll leave that to you. I will

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Speaker 1: just say that was a terrific was this way? If

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Speaker 1: if the Vikings win a road game like that in Philly,

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Speaker 1: you k culture basically for sure? Culture? But where was I?

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Speaker 2: So? Uh?

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Speaker 1: They they're playing tonight, yes, against the Giants, against the Giants,

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Speaker 1: I think in New York that that game is so

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Speaker 1: then they'll have a decent amount of time off as well,

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Speaker 1: right they will. But that is a noon start, you

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Speaker 1: tell me. Yeah, we have a bunch of nooners now,

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Speaker 1: don't we.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, to know, because it's then Chargers and then a

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Speaker 3: string of noon games.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a couple of a section items. We don't have

506
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Speaker 1: a lot of time to do that these days, but

507
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Speaker 1: there's stuff worth getting into. Are you familiar with Kevin Stitt?

508
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Speaker 1: Do you know who Kevin Stitt is? I don't think

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Speaker 1: I do. He is the Republican governor of the state

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Speaker 1: of Oklahoma. He's also chairman of something called the National

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Speaker 1: Governors Association. He is Some of his comments are causing

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Speaker 1: some ripples. One could say inside the Republican Party, especially

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Speaker 1: in MAGA world. Here's what he had to say. This

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Speaker 1: is an interview, I guess with the much hated New

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Speaker 1: York Times, but he granted the interview, and here's what

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Speaker 1: he had to say regarding the objections of Illinois Governor J. B.

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Speaker 1: Pritzker of Illinois and actually that big forum Tim Waltz

518
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Speaker 1: in Minnesota Wallsey as well, anticipating the possibility of the

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Speaker 1: guard ending up here, they've both criticized that decision by

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Speaker 1: the president. Here's what the governor of Oklahoma had to say.

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Speaker 1: We believe in the federalist system, that's states rights. Oklahoma's

522
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Speaker 1: would lose their mind if Pritzker in Illinois sent troops

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Speaker 1: down to Oklahoma during the Biden administration. There's no arguing

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Speaker 1: with it. There's no comeback to it. Quite frankly, but

525
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Speaker 1: is it going to even make a ripple in MAGA world.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what we talked about this with Kessler yesterday.

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Speaker 1: That was yesterday because that that somebody had written a

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Speaker 1: story indicating that there is privately growing unease among summer

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Speaker 1: Republican leadership on you know, just Alice, let's send the guard.

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Speaker 1: Don't mess with it. Just send a guard. Let's let's

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Speaker 1: just go after and so we'll see if this starts

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Speaker 1: that he's gone on the record. Is it possible that

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Speaker 1: others would get braver as well? I doubt it, but

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Speaker 1: he's one hundred percent right. There's there's the howling, the screaming,

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Speaker 1: how dare you? That would be going on, would be

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Speaker 1: never ending and probably righteous. That's the irony of this

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Speaker 1: particular situation. Totally unrelated, but also from the a section,

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Speaker 1: a story that I put into the classification of not

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Speaker 1: a huge story, but a story that to me raises

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Speaker 1: lots of questions in my mind about concessions that we

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Speaker 1: are making culturally. And I'll least start on it now

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Speaker 1: we went along on Russo, and then we'll be able

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Speaker 1: to get into it more depth after the pause. And

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Speaker 1: it's a story about libraries, and in this case it's

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Speaker 1: a start tribute story. And I don't know how many

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Speaker 1: of you read it. It's about the Rondo Community Library.

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Speaker 1: I'll read you a couple sentences from it. Saint Paul's

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Speaker 1: most visited library will close for at least six months

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Speaker 1: to move its bathrooms and front desk because of security concerns.

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Speaker 1: Community members have complained about drug use and people experiencing

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Speaker 1: homelessness in the Rondo Community Library and its surrounding area

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Speaker 1: in recent years, and library officials say they're confident that

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Speaker 1: the seven hundred and ninety three thousand dollars renovation and

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Speaker 1: solve those problems. Some Rondo neighborhood residents and library employees

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Speaker 1: aren't so certain. It all had had all the pluses,

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Speaker 1: said Arctica Teyner, who grew up in the neighborhood about

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Speaker 1: the library, but you now have issues that have been

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Speaker 1: exacerbated over the years and nothing is functioning properly. Isaac Milke,

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Speaker 1: president of AFSCME Local eighteen forty two, which apparently represents

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Speaker 1: some Saint Paul Library workers, says that Rondo employees were

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Speaker 1: not consulted in the renovation plans and think other solutions

562
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Speaker 1: should have been examined instead. Here's the direct quote. We

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Speaker 1: don't think moving the bathrooms will do anything. The staff

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Speaker 1: who work in the building are the experts and they

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Speaker 1: are not being listened to. And then there's some details

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Speaker 1: about the renovation process. It's still early. What changes the

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Speaker 1: moving the reception desk closer to the door, allowing patrons

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Speaker 1: to use the space more effectively. How so, I'm not

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Speaker 1: exactly sure. There's a quote from By the Way. Dates

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Speaker 1: have not been set for the renovation, which could take

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Speaker 1: up to a year. Frank White, a Rondo described in

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Speaker 1: this piece as a Rondo neighborhood elder and a Saint

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Speaker 1: Paul historian whose curated exhibits have been displayed at the library,

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Speaker 1: says he doesn't visit anymore because of the drug use

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Speaker 1: he witnessed in the past. He said he doubts the

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Speaker 1: renovation will change the behavior at the library, which is

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Speaker 1: located at Dale Street and University Avenue. Quote. The solution

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Speaker 1: is really taking care of the negative activity that surrounds

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Speaker 1: the area. Is disappointing that nothing has been done. August

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Speaker 1: so that was a couple of months ago. Rondo reduced

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Speaker 1: its hours on Fridays and Saturdays and closed on Sundays

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Speaker 1: because of ongoing challenges and resulting negative behavior in the

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Speaker 1: area that made it difficult to adequately deliver safe and

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Speaker 1: welcoming services. I repeat that again, forced to reduce hours

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Speaker 1: Fridays and Saturdays, not even open on Sundays because obviously

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Speaker 1: there was too much difficulty, too many challenges going on

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Speaker 1: in terms of the behavior, making it making one would

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Speaker 1: assume patrons feel relatively unsafe. Then there's a quote from

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Speaker 1: the mayor of Saint Paul, Melvin Carter. We are transitioning

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Speaker 1: out of an era where we build libraries for books.

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Speaker 1: Carter said, additional social services are key to the library's mission.

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Speaker 1: In the twenty first century, after COVID, some libraries across

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Speaker 1: the US hired social workers to help librarians provide more

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Speaker 1: services to patrons. As libraries roles shifted, Saint Paul and

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Speaker 1: Hennepin County libraries employee social workers. Now we've I think

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Speaker 1: talked about that before, about how libraries have changed. I

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Speaker 1: think we've been talked about some other places where there's

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Speaker 1: been some security issues in libraries, and they're not all

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Speaker 1: on that same boat. But what is just sort of

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Speaker 1: accepted is what I don't accept. I think it's part

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Speaker 1: of the problem. And I think that's part of what

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Speaker 1: a couple of the individuals who seem to have good

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00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 1: knowledge about that particular location are attempting to say, we

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Speaker 1: concede too much. And I'm not sure in the concession

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Speaker 1: of well, it's not a library anymore. It's basically come

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Speaker 1: on in you want to hang out a little bit,

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Speaker 1: that's fine too. Whatever your intent is, it's come on,

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Speaker 1: come all this. It's supposed to be a where we

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Speaker 1: try to be a welcome in community. You're not going

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Speaker 1: to convince me that you're creating an environment that is

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Speaker 1: conducive to anyone enjoying whatever is supposed to go on

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Speaker 1: inside that library, which is still presumably supposed to revolve

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Speaker 1: around books or electronic items, whatever compute, whatever the case

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Speaker 1: may be, using the internet, using the internet, et cetera.

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Speaker 1: But we get these stories all the time. Well, no

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00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: library is not a library anymore. You gotta understand you're

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Speaker 1: gonna have people coming in off the streets. That's the concession.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't serve the patrons, and I dare say it

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Speaker 1: doesn't serve the individuals who, whatever however they are compromised,

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Speaker 1: are using and turning libraries into places in which there

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Speaker 1: is not the customary level of safety that one can expect.

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Speaker 1: And what this comes off as is, well, we got

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Speaker 1: to do something. We got some money, So maybe if

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Speaker 1: we move an entrance around to a different place where

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00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: maybe it's it's it's we can control the environment a

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00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: little bit better. That's not the answer. And again, the

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Speaker 1: folks who have the most to lose, obviously, the folks

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Speaker 1: who use this place and have been around this place.

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Speaker 1: They know it. They're already calling it. But they're going

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00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 1: to be ignored because people have decided no, we're changing.

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Speaker 1: Are like libraries are now a halfway house. I doubt

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Speaker 1: they're even really qualified to do that kind of work.

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Speaker 1: And is it even practical to do it? And that

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Speaker 1: is that not the issue? You make so many concessions

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Speaker 1: that you defeat the purpose of the library in the

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Speaker 1: first place, and you lie to yourself out of what

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Speaker 1: you think is the goodness of your heart. You do

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Speaker 1: not want to turn anybody away, But it depends on

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Speaker 1: what the individuals who may all be troubled for legitimate

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Speaker 1: reasons are doing in and around that location, and if

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00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 1: they're doing things they should not be doing and they

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00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: are creating unrest, or they are creating a lack of safety.

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Speaker 4: We're big on safe places. Library is supposed to be

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Speaker 4: a safe space to do whatever work.

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Speaker 1: You're looking for, to read or to get out of

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Speaker 1: the madness. But if you make it part of the

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Speaker 1: mad and say, well, no, that's just the way it

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Speaker 1: is now, why it comes off as in the name

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Speaker 1: of well, no, we want to be more progressive, we

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Speaker 1: want to be more open minded about this, and I

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Speaker 1: don't think anybody's interests are served. And again, the great

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Speaker 1: irony is when you get past the bureaucrats and the

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Speaker 1: elected officials and you get to the average roub who

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Speaker 1: clearly have spent time there, they're already saying, you may

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Speaker 1: feel better about yourselves. You got this money, and you

656
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Speaker 1: can have a when when there's groundbreaking and the remodeling

657
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Speaker 1: is done, you can have this press conference about you

658
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Speaker 1: can do whatever you want to it. But if you

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Speaker 1: don't change the the activity that's going on in that

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Speaker 1: location or around that location, then really, realistically, not a thing

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Speaker 1: is going to change. And I've never I guess I'm

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Speaker 1: put me in the group that's never quite understood why

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Speaker 1: this concession is so easily just sort of grandfathered in

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Speaker 1: and accepted as well, this is the most effective way

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Speaker 1: to go forward. No, what you have to do? What's

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Speaker 1: the what's the key quote here? This is from Who's

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Speaker 1: this into the Frank White the described, as I said,

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Speaker 1: as a Rondo neighborhood elder and a Saint Paul historian.

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Speaker 1: The solution is really taking care of the negative activity

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Speaker 1: that surrounds the areas. Disappointing that nothing really has been done.

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Speaker 1: That's it. Move bathrooms around if you like. That's what

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Speaker 1: the president of the local of the union there regard

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Speaker 1: who represents some workers, the staff who work in the

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Speaker 1: building of the experts. They're not being listened to. Now again,

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Speaker 1: I understand you can't listen. You can't have individual workers

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Speaker 1: I guess in charge of whatever programs you have in mind,

677
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Speaker 1: but you might listen to them. And this has been

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Speaker 1: going on quite frankly for a while. And I'm sure

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Speaker 1: some libraries have adjusted better than others in terms of security,

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Speaker 1: moving people around, moving people along, whatever the case may be.

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Speaker 1: But doesn't this come up. I mean, it just comes

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Speaker 1: off to me as we're going to feel better about ourselves,

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Speaker 1: but we're not. If we're being honest really in our

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Speaker 1: all of our concessions here, we're really not doing anything

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Speaker 1: that makes it likely that a library can be a library,

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Speaker 1: which is frankly to me what it should still be.

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Speaker 1: The notion it has to be something different. No, it

688
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Speaker 1: only has to be something different if you do not

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Speaker 1: confront the problems apparently going on near these places or

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Speaker 1: inside the building. No, it's not another wild injury, at

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Speaker 1: least not one that we know about yet.

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Speaker 3: Joe Ingle's update, No, not that either. Oh can I

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Speaker 3: give away the bonus bucks? By the way, I forgot

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Speaker 3: to do that?

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Speaker 1: Thank you. This is Dayline Duluth. This is via starcimmune

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Speaker 1: dot com as well, Duluth. That's one of the great

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Speaker 1: callback Glenn Mason stories. It's funny. I mean, how now

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Speaker 1: in the wake of his adopting Fargo. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: couldn't I just as only say Fargo, right, because he

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Speaker 1: said Duluth in a sneering, contemptuous yes, condescending like why

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Speaker 1: would you go to Duluth for anything?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 3: When asking me where I then fiance at the time,

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Speaker 3: and I like to go hang out. Yeah, he said,

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Speaker 3: go to Florida. Then he offered up his Florida place

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Speaker 3: and that didn't last. We've never been there, Yeah, but anyway.

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Speaker 1: Dozens of alcohol breath tests conducted by law enforcement in

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Speaker 1: at least three Minnesota counties may have been compromised because

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Speaker 1: of operator errors. This state officials reveal more than seventy

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Speaker 1: tests in Aiken, forty five in Winona, and thirteen in

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Speaker 1: Chippewa counties incorrectly used a data master instrument to test

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Speaker 1: blood alcohol content over varying over varying periods of time.

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Speaker 1: This is according to the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension.

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Speaker 1: A control piece of equipment was installed incorrectly. In at

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Speaker 1: least one case, fourth degree drunk driving charges against a

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Speaker 1: man were recently dismissed by the county attorney's office because

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Speaker 1: of the mistake. In court documents, County attorney James Ratz

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Speaker 1: said the error compromised the validity and accuracy of the

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Speaker 1: test's results. Twin Cities based defense attorney Chuck Ramsey said

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Speaker 1: he noticed the inconsistency for two of his clients who

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Speaker 1: were given breath tests in charge in Aiken County. Somewhere

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Speaker 1: in here this story, I thought the headline indicated that

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Speaker 1: ultimately and might be affected too, as Wenona County. They

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Speaker 1: can where's the did they just draw me into the story?

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Speaker 1: But where's the Hennepen County part? Yeah, because the subhead

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Speaker 1: says this attorney says Hennepen and Olmsted counties may have

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Speaker 1: issues too. I don't see the trying to see the

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Speaker 1: details on that where they the closer to home might

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Speaker 1: be involved as well. That's never good, right, Joe had

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Speaker 1: a field day with that one, that's for sure. You

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Speaker 1: want to take you know, you want to hold individuals

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Speaker 1: driving while you know, drinking accountable, obviously, but this is

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Speaker 1: the worst case scenario because in some cases they may

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Speaker 1: well have been guilty of those infractions and they are

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Speaker 1: now and so they may in those cases be likely

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Speaker 1: to not be held accountable. And in other cases they

743
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Speaker 1: may not have been doing anything wrong at all, or

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Speaker 1: they may not have been over the line. I guess

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Speaker 1: I could. I should say, see if there's any I can't. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I can't find any detail regarding the attorney saying that

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Speaker 1: Hannepin might also be ultimately affected by this as well.

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Speaker 1: So stay tuned for more. By the way, one other

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Speaker 1: breaking a section item here before we break for the

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Speaker 1: top of the hour. This is via Wall Street Journal.

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Speaker 1: Just what we're just talking about. Regarding the Oklahoma governor

752
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Speaker 1: his comments. A federal judge on Thursday blocked President Trump

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Speaker 1: from federalizing or deploying National Guard members to Illinois for

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Speaker 1: at least two weeks, saying continuing to militarize the response

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Speaker 1: to local protests was likely to cause civil unrest. That's

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Speaker 1: just the headline on it. My inclination is it will

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Speaker 1: change nothing. I just don't think they have any interests

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Speaker 1: that they'll pay attention to the rulings that they like

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Speaker 1: and they'll ignore the ones they don't, right, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't think this is going to stop anything. You know,

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Speaker 1: A couple of people have said, well, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: you try to be you're tough on crime guy, and

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Speaker 1: yet you seem bothered by these shows of force. The

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Speaker 1: chief laid this down pretty effectively. He's in law enforcement.

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Speaker 1: He's not exactly anti law and order. Law enforcement and

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Speaker 1: I have the same problem. There's a reason historically conservatives

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Speaker 1: have had have gotten squeamish about using federal troops or

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Speaker 1: you know, National Guard members in situations involving local crime.

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Speaker 1: Can Democrats we've certainly talked about this, are democrats in

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Speaker 1: some cases vulnerable on the issue of crime in local

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Speaker 1: communities one hundred percent. So there are things that need

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Speaker 1: to be done. The question is at what cost if

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Speaker 1: you start going down the road that Trump clearly wants

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Speaker 1: to keep going down and probably include more cities because

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Speaker 1: he enjoys it so much. There were supposed to be

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Speaker 1: lines of demarcation in this regard, and they have. That

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Speaker 1: line has been obviously just shattered. There is no line

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Speaker 1: at this point, especially as it pertains to the immigration

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Speaker 1: issue as well, So stay tuned. More on that to come.

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Speaker 1: There's your a section reprieve from the toy Department. I

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Speaker 1: think we are going to kind of return to the

782
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Speaker 1: toy Department our final thirty minutes of the show or nearly.

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Speaker 1: We're out at six during the football season, but because

784
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Speaker 1: the Vikings are in a bye week, we are going

785
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Speaker 1: to go the distance. I will get to a story

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Speaker 1: I've been embargoing for several days involving ongoing controversy about

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Speaker 1: the bad blood that exists between the w NBA players,

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Speaker 1: certainly the union and the the Lame Duck. I'm assuming

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Speaker 1: she is at this point commissioner of the WNBA as well.

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Speaker 1: Stay tuned for all of that and more. In our

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Speaker 1: final thought ongoing conversation guards y about the bad blood

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Speaker 1: that exists between the WNBA players Union and the commissioner.

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Speaker 1: By the way, does it bother anybody else that throughout

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Speaker 1: really the entire WNBA Finals round matching two really good teams,

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Speaker 1: even though one of them doesn't have to be the

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Speaker 1: Minnesota Links. In fact, Vegas is now on the verge. Yep,

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Speaker 1: they've won the first three games of the series, including

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Speaker 1: last night in Phoenix. That almost, honestly, almost nobody but

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Speaker 1: that the number one subject is the crowning moment for

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Speaker 1: the WNBA this season, the postseason. A year ago, it

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Speaker 1: was the series between for all the controversy, it was

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Speaker 1: the series itself between New York and the Links. Now,

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Speaker 1: officiating was part of it, but it was about the series.

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Speaker 1: It was about the back and forth. It's not this year,

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Speaker 1: it's about the bad blood. Timing is supposed to be everything.

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Speaker 1: The timing has not been particularly good in that regard.

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Speaker 1: Just as easily could have had all these conversations a

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Speaker 1: week after, not like the issues would have been forgotten

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Speaker 1: at that point. But I digress. ESPN dot Com, Ramona

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Speaker 1: Shelbourne and Shelburne, I should say in Kendra Andrews, they relead.

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Speaker 1: They dropped a piece this was three days ago that

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Speaker 1: I've been embargoing that I finally want to get to

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Speaker 1: because they ask a lot. They lay out the sides,

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Speaker 1: the lack of trust, the vulnerability of the commissioner for sure.

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Speaker 1: But here another question I wish I actually they'd have

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Speaker 1: raised it a little earlier in the piece. Is Nafisa

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Speaker 1: Collier also vulnerable? Does she also have Is it possible

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Speaker 1: she's in a position, in a compromising position as it

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Speaker 1: pertains this to this entire story. Well, let me give

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Speaker 1: you an example of what they lay out in this piece,

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Speaker 1: which again is an attempted overview about the state of

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Speaker 1: the state when it comes to the bad blood, and

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Speaker 1: they believe me they are. They offer plenty of indictment

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Speaker 1: on this leadership, although they also give it from the

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Speaker 1: Commissioner's office, although they do give that some nuance as well.

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Speaker 1: Stay tuned for that in a minute. Back in February,

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Speaker 1: sources say Engelbert called a meeting with Collier and her husband,

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Speaker 1: Alex Bazell, the president of Unrivaled, a startup three on

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Speaker 1: three league founded alongside coll Or that some in the

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Speaker 1: w NBA increasingly believe is becoming competition to the league itself.

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Speaker 1: On that point, which I talked about a little bit

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Speaker 1: last time we had this subject to discussed, to explore

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Speaker 1: this subject, especially as it pertains to the comments that

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Speaker 1: col You're made regarding how poor the leadership is a

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Speaker 1: WNBA and how wonderful the leadership is by my husband, right,

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Speaker 1: which might be true, but on three league, well that

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Speaker 1: that's another point travel or anything that no nowhere near

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Speaker 1: the complications. But it's it's it's it's your husband for

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Speaker 1: God's sake, which I think means that the fawning media

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Speaker 1: responding to this story at least needs to have some

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Speaker 1: understanding of and ordinarily would say, well, you know, it's

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Speaker 1: may be true, but let's let's remember that relationship there.

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Speaker 1: There may be that this individual is not going to

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Speaker 1: be particularly objective, not to mention what you say that

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Speaker 1: it is apples and oranges because of the size of

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Speaker 1: the operation, the size of the league as well. Regarding Engelbert,

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Speaker 1: the commissioner, she's already unpopular, said one source with knowledge

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Speaker 1: of the CBA talks. So let her be the bad

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Speaker 1: guy in CBA negotiations and then replace her multiple league

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Speaker 1: sources wondered what could happen or what would happen if

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Speaker 1: the players who have loudly supported Colliery this week simply

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Speaker 1: refused to negotiate with the league on a new CB

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Speaker 1: until Engelbert resigned or was replaced the most important people

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Speaker 1: in this entire ecosystem of the players, one executive said,

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Speaker 1: lock them out if you want to, But all you're

856
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 1: going to do is ensure that Unrivaled becomes the big

857
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,800
Speaker 1: person on campus as opposed to the w I'm not

858
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 1: even sure I believe that. But interesting quote. They go

859
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 1: on to write. It's fair to wonder, of course, whether

860
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 1: Collier's comments also serve a larger aim to promote Unrivaled,

861
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 1: the league she co founded with their husband in New York,

862
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: Liberty forward Brianna Stewart interesting and push the WNBA publicly

863
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:11,280
Speaker 1: in CBA talks. Quote it's a total conflict of interest,

864
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 1: set a source with knowledge of the situation. Her husband

865
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 1: runs the league that's in competition with the w and

866
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:20,760
Speaker 1: she has equity in it. Kyllier and Stewart, for the record,

867
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:23,280
Speaker 1: are also both on the executive committee of the Women's

868
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,879
Speaker 1: National Basketball Players Association, which is negotiating with the league

869
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 1: on the new CBA. Now, I'll quickly add, the players

870
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,720
Speaker 1: themselves don't seem to be asking these questions. They seem

871
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 1: comfortable with what not only with what Kylier said, but

872
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,399
Speaker 1: with her representation. That's up to them. Ultimately, it's their

873
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 1: decision who they have represent them. But this stuff, again,

874
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 1: if we're going to have a serious conversation, an honest

875
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 1: conversation about leadership in the league, this should be part

876
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:54,320
Speaker 1: of the conversation. It's too easy to champion Collier, largely

877
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 1: because why nobody likes this commissioner, and probably she has

878
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 1: merited most of the criticism she's received. But we can't

879
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 1: become so blinded by that that we don't factor in

880
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,799
Speaker 1: some goofy circumstances. Here we go, wait a minute, now,

881
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:16,359
Speaker 1: Ordinarily we would call that in any other circumstance, we'd say, well,

882
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 1: that is those they're not direct competing interests, but they

883
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 1: are in some ways competing. And you have to wonder

884
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:31,959
Speaker 1: whose interests that Kylier then is representing when push comes

885
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 1: to shove, given her money is in this other her

886
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 1: stake as apparently a very good business woman is in

887
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:44,879
Speaker 1: this league. One other item regarding Engelberton, we talked about this.

888
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 1: I think last week betside manner seems to be awful.

889
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 1: Although I am bored with the criticism of she didn't

890
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 1: call me after my injury. I think that's silly. I

891
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: think that's completely overcooked and overblown. And I still think

892
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 1: that's more about the fact that the links, including Collier

893
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 1: and the head coach, are bitter about the way it finished,

894
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 1: that they collapsed in the series and opened the door

895
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 1: to another team reaching the WNBA finals. But here's what

896
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 1: they lay out about the state of the league under Engelbert.

897
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,320
Speaker 1: There's very little dispute how much the WNBA has grown

898
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:24,399
Speaker 1: during Engelbert's tenure. According to a report earlier this year,

899
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 1: revenues are projected to top one billion dollars this year.

900
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 1: ESPN ABC WNBA ratings at an all time high this season,

901
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 1: averaging one point three million viewers across twenty five games.

902
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: Merchandising sales up five hundred percent. This year. The league

903
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:43,280
Speaker 1: invested fifty million dollars in charter flights, a key initiative

904
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 1: for players, but owners also just got two hundred and

905
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 1: fifty million dollars in expansion fees from three cities, with

906
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 1: half a dozen more lined up to pay even more

907
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 1: if there are future expansions. They ask how much of

908
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 1: the credit does Engelbert deserve for these gains versus the

909
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 1: emergence of young stars such as Clark, Reese, Becker's, rising

910
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 1: star power of players such as Wilson, Collier and Stuart

911
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: and heightened level of competitive competitiveness across the league that

912
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 1: remains a topic of great debate in league circles. This

913
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 1: week's sports economist and professor David Berry wrote in The

914
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: New York Times that if WNBA players received a similar

915
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 1: percentage of basketball related income as NBA players, the top

916
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 1: stars should be making more than three million dollars a year. Instead,

917
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:33,360
Speaker 1: they earn less than ten percent of that coin, to

918
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 1: sources on both sides of the CBA negotiations. Under the

919
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 1: current CBA, players don't get additional revenue sharing nine percent

920
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:41,959
Speaker 1: as opposed to their forty nine to fifty one percent

921
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 1: in the NBA, until the league has generated a certain

922
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 1: level of income, which it says it has yet to

923
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 1: do after decades of multimillion dollar losses at the franchise

924
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 1: and league level. Players want the league to give them

925
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 1: the data proving those revenue benchmarks have not even been met.

926
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:00,919
Speaker 1: So some of this stuff is as old as time.

927
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 1: When it comes to sports play, you know, uh uh,

928
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 1: the players and management ownership debate the next collective bargaining agreement,

929
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 1: that's all part of the deal. That's all fair, and

930
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 1: what we like to say is love and war. However,

931
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 1: I'm not going to put the commissioner at the top

932
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 1: of the list for the new TV deal, which is excellent,

933
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:29,280
Speaker 1: the the all of those revenues being up the decision

934
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 1: to finally charter, I'm going to say a lot, absolutely,

935
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 1: a lot of that is the Clark phenomenon to a

936
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 1: year ago. Many of these same players who are now

937
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 1: championing her are we We're doubting, and we're we're not

938
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:45,319
Speaker 1: interested in hearing about. But I don't think you can

939
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 1: say that she has been if if on her watch

940
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 1: she seems to maximize to the degree that the league

941
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 1: has been maximized, I certainly would indicate that would suggest,

942
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 1: as some people have said, the bit her business acumen

943
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 1: is pretty legit, and the idea that she's thumbing her

944
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 1: nose at the players and doesn't want to do well

945
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 1: by the players. The players have done in some areas

946
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 1: have done well by her. Starting with I'm assuming she

947
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:21,879
Speaker 1: had to be involved in the most significant change, which

948
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 1: was the charter deals, which is something absolutely was needed

949
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:28,840
Speaker 1: to be done. So all this, I think reminds me

950
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 1: is that there's a lot more gray area here than

951
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:36,800
Speaker 1: we'd like to think. She does not have the trust

952
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 1: of the players. That seems undeniable, and that eventually will

953
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:43,479
Speaker 1: probably I think, make it likely that she loses her job,

954
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:48,839
Speaker 1: because the best commissioners find a way, even though they

955
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 1: tend to be working for owners, to gain the trust

956
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 1: of the players as well. Now, sometimes the battles are

957
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 1: going to be so great because of the money involved,

958
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera. But I thought this was a

959
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 1: really good overview that attempted, i think, to be fair

960
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 1: and if nothing else, just to raise lots of questions.

961
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 1: They didn't draw conclusions, but they raise a lot of questions.

962
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 1: And they follow up on the question I had a

963
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:14,879
Speaker 1: week ago, which was, well, wait a minute, now, who

964
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 1: is COLLI you're serving here? How self serving are some

965
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 1: of these comments? They might be true, but she's in

966
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 1: a compromised role as far as I'm concerned, given her

967
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 1: stakes in this other league. And by the way, the

968
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 1: notion that that was the other thing. There are even

969
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:33,360
Speaker 1: some people said, guess what, all the players could go

970
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 1: to this other league. Stop it. Whatever you're smoking, stop it.

971
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 1: The other league's acute enterprise. But people don't pay attention

972
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:44,840
Speaker 1: to that the way they've now come to pay attention

973
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 1: to WNBA. It's not even close. We'll come back wrap

974
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 1: up the show.

975
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 3: Next show represented by American Pressure commercial grade Pressure Washers

976
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Speaker 3: since nineteen seventy five.

977
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Speaker 1: It's the Bumper to Bumper show rap controversial today, lots

978
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 1: of good stuff, though very eclectic guest lineup that included

979
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 1: the Inbox Doctor Dan's Inbox outstanding contributions as always great

980
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 1: stuff between three point thirty and four from Sean Salisbury.

981
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 1: If you missed it, go back and you can podcast

982
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 1: it after today's broadcast, and of course Russo from Saint

983
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 1: Louis inside the newly refurbished Checker Dome to talk a

984
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 1: minute a little wild hockey the while to be in

985
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 1: action tonight in their opener that is coming up after

986
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 1: a short fan of the man and then it will

987
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 1: be then the wild pregame and then a Wild versus

988
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 1: the Saint Louis Blues game one of eighty two. Think

989
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 1: about it, Yeah, eighty two still too many games in

990
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 1: the NBA and NHL regular season. Isn't it eighty four

991
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 1: now in the NHL. You know, you're right. I forgot

992
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 1: about that. You're right, it is, isn't it four? Yeah?

993
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 1: Added to that fallness. I'm paying attention. Oh my god,

994
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 1: they added to that's fine.

995
00:57:58,160 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 3: I got to get it in like five months and

996
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 3: stuff because of the Olympic break.

997
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 1: Man, this just goes what a grind? How many of

998
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 1: a Carill Caprice off playing eighty four games now total?

999
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 1: I think so I'm gonna say forty six.

1000
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 3: You know it's so sad. I was gonna say forty seven.

1001
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 3: We need to maybe take a case.

1002
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 1: You might be right, may a weird choice rights mark

1003
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 1: to defend Engelberti's a big girl. I'm not sure why

1004
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 1: she needs defending. We do this all the time. We

1005
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 1: rip adults and defend them all the time. It's not

1006
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 1: even defending, it's saying there's maybe a little bit more

1007
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 1: to the story here. That's there should be some questions

1008
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:40,919
Speaker 1: regarding some other individuals as well. That might be too

1009
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 1: tough for eighty four next year eighty two. This year,

1010
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 1: my forty seven still stands. I'll say with forty six,

1011
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 1: I'll talk to you tomorrow. Three