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Speaker 3: Twenty five after five.

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Speaker 4: We are a few minutes late for our guys, Sean

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Speaker 4: sayat Stats and Scheme Newsletter sumersports dot com. And Sean

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Speaker 4: has pretty much allowed me to lay on his therapist

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Speaker 4: couch all year long because with the Bengals lost eight

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Speaker 4: out of nine.

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Speaker 3: But now they're good, They're resurgent.

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Speaker 4: The door is open, and so Shawn's with us to

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Speaker 4: hear my optimistic vibes. And it's good to have you.

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Speaker 3: Sean. How are you?

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Speaker 5: Oh, I'm doing great. Look, no one's doing better than me.

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Speaker 6: I'm already thinking of all right, how many wins does

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Speaker 6: it take to get to the playoffs? How many loss

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Speaker 6: from the Ravens are steel? Is a take for you

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Speaker 6: to steal the division? I was so juiced on Thanksgiving night.

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Speaker 6: It was really really fun. You know, my family knows

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Speaker 6: you're going to talk about the Bengals. You gotta watch

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Speaker 6: the game. I was optimistic going into that game, but

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Speaker 6: to come out with that result I think is a

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Speaker 6: really awesome, awesome place to be right now for the.

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Speaker 4: Bengals was Thursday night From a Bengals defensive perspective, was

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Speaker 4: it Bengals defense really good? Or did Baltimore just make

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Speaker 4: too many mistakes?

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Speaker 6: So, I mean, anytime you get that many turnovers, it's

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Speaker 6: going to be a little bit wonky.

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Speaker 5: Where how perdistive is that on a week two week.

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Speaker 6: Basis, I would say, you know, I'm not going to

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Speaker 6: be expecting them to get five turnovers again.

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Speaker 5: But the BENGALSNA did do some good things.

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Speaker 6: Where they're going to try and heat up Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 6: a bunch. You're going to sign a bunch of blitzers

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Speaker 6: where we have talked earlier this year like what the

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Speaker 6: heck Canal Golden naturally do, and one thing is increase variance.

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Speaker 6: Though a bunch of blitzers, you're able to get a

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Speaker 6: bunch of positive plays against the Raymondoffins, who has been

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Speaker 6: struggling a little bit so far this season. I think

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Speaker 6: when they blitz through Lamar Jackson was three or four eleven

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Speaker 6: for only nine yards, an interception and a sack, his

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Speaker 6: second worst performance against the Blitz in his entire career.

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Speaker 6: So I would hope that the Bengals continue to do that,

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Speaker 6: and you're gonna get burned right sometimes, But when you

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Speaker 6: have been clicking on offense, let's go n roll the

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Speaker 6: dice and see what happens.

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Speaker 3: This might be kind of a stupid question.

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Speaker 4: They're playing linebackers who call it what it is, they're

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Speaker 4: not great in coverage, Carter and Demetrius Knight. This is

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Speaker 4: maybe a really dumb question. But if you have linebackers

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Speaker 4: on the field who are not good in coverage, why

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Speaker 4: don't you send them toward the quarterback every play.

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Speaker 6: I don't think it's a stupid question at all, though,

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Speaker 6: It think it makes sense to think about it like that.

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Speaker 5: And you know, when the Bengals were in zone coverage,

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Speaker 6: Have everyone kind of spaced out and you're able to maybe.

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Speaker 5: Attack just a little bit.

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Speaker 6: Lamar Jackson was able to cause a bunch of problems

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Speaker 5: Even without them scoring points.

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Speaker 6: So you do increase your risk a lot because you're

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Speaker 6: now asking a lot of your safeties in coverage of

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Speaker 6: think the Bengals maybe they'll love every single piece oft

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Speaker 6: so you can I think at this point where you

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Speaker 6: you have to watch this historically bad defense. It's the

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Speaker 6: worst defense since X year or Y year. So you're

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Speaker 6: gonna say, hey, am I going to increase variant with

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Speaker 6: blitzes with a ton of pressure. Let me try and

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Speaker 6: get one. They've bangled it a nice job where you're

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Speaker 6: making it look like you're blissing. Well, I'm actually gonna

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Speaker 5: So there's that approach, or you can say, well, I'm

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Speaker 6: To drop out. All these guys make you kind of

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Speaker 6: So I like the idea of let's go let's go

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Speaker 6: you were talking about the Ravens, is all man of

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: No, And I think that's that's kind of why. You know, Look,

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Speaker 4: it's it's obvious right there, four and eight. The only

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Speaker 4: the teams in front of you are you know, five

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Speaker 4: with the Bengals defense with me though, really quick when

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Speaker 4: you watch everybody else and then you watch DJ Turner

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Speaker 4: that's that's the guy you can move forward with. That's

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Speaker 4: a guy who's maybe playing at a Pro Bowl caliber

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Speaker 4: level ton of passes defense? Is is that just you know,

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Speaker 4: us looking at this through orange and black colored glasses,

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Speaker 4: and when you compare him to other guys at the

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Speaker 6: I do think he is playing at a high level

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Speaker 6: where you know, I is he a first team All Pro?

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Speaker 6: and he consistently ranked high in our grades. He is

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Speaker 6: constantly showing up. He's constantly showing up on screen. You

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Speaker 5: And now you're able to ask other guys a little

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Speaker 6: I consider him the same, like this is a durelle

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Speaker 5: Maybe not, but you don't have to be that. In

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Speaker 6: You can have a really real positive piece there where

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Speaker 5: Now you're able to see.

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Speaker 6: Some of those pass rushers k off a little bit.

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Speaker 6: So I really enjoyed DJ Turner. I feel like we

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Speaker 5: It's the same for DJ Turner this year.

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Speaker 4: UH assess the performance of the Bengals offensive line for me,

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Speaker 6: Well, if you're able to keep Gobra a plan like,

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Speaker 6: that's where all that matters. I do think Burrow helped

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Speaker 5: I'm sure he is not one hundred percent and he's

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Speaker 6: Something weird in issue, and I'm sure it's probably hurting

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Speaker 6: a little bit the morning after the game. But no, Indeed,

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Speaker 6: I could say all the Ravens defensive line is actually

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Speaker 6: Brow really avoid some of those hyper negative plays, you're

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Speaker 6: can think it's harder sometimes for Joe Burrow, right, because

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Speaker 5: That ball is out in two point twenty five seconds,

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Speaker 6: So it is a little bit of a tougher job,

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Speaker 6: But I think you should be happy with Okay.

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Speaker 5: Like we're moving in the right direction here. After that

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Speaker 4: So they go to Buffalo this week they played the Bills,

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Speaker 4: and the last three games they've played, we've had three

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Speaker 4: like different offensive performances. They Josh Allen was unstoppable against

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Speaker 4: on that Thursday night I think was very eye opening

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Speaker 4: for a lot of people. I thought against Pittsburgh they

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Speaker 6: I mean, if they can borrow Will Anderson at defensive end,

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Speaker 5: If that'd be a nice little a nice little move

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Speaker 6: I will say though, I think that the Bills.

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Speaker 6: Their receivers are not particularly threatening at this time, like

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Speaker 6: Hey, we're gonna run it straight at you as often

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Speaker 5: I don't think they're gonna be.

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Speaker 6: Able to just like I totally shred you and out

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Speaker 6: you know, the Bills receivers shouldn't be able to totally.

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Speaker 5: Dominate on the outside. Now, what can you get over

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Speaker 6: So I'm curious because I think something about Josh Allen

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Speaker 6: that's been a little bit different this year is his

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Speaker 6: play under pressure has just dropped back just a little bit.

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Speaker 6: Now you're taking a bunch of sacks in situations where

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Speaker 6: during those Superman seasons.

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Speaker 5: He's just unsackable.

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Speaker 6: So if you're able to kind of generate that, you're

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Speaker 6: took it against Lamar.

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Speaker 5: You know I'm gonna do left that game with great interests,

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Speaker 5: is what I'll say.

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Speaker 4: All Right, there you go, Sean sayaed Sumer Sports. By

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Speaker 4: the way, could you go to Sumer Brain and ask

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Speaker 4: why the Ravens only gave the ball to Derrick Henry

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Speaker 6: Bro I was looking at it and like all their

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Speaker 5: It's it's tough, you know, It's it's about that. But hey,

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Speaker 5: I'm not complaining. I'm so happy that we can talk

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Speaker 4: You and me both the Stats and Scheme newsletter. If

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Speaker 6: Une information for every single game all season long? But

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Speaker 6: it's the siving information that I would hand to a

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Speaker 5: Win the game on this given day?

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Speaker 4: You get it twice a week the Stats and Scheme

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Speaker 4: Newsletter at sumer sports dot com, and you should check

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Speaker 3: M e er is how you spell Sumer. Sean, you're

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Speaker 3: the best man. Thanks so much, Thanks so much, Brot.

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Speaker 5: Looking forward to talking next week.

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Speaker 4: I can't wait. That's our guy, Sean sayed. Get his

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