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Speaker 1: Tredio seven hundred WLW Mike Gallon and Saturday midday on

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Speaker 1: a oh Man. I don't even know how to describe it,

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Speaker 1: just nasty always around Saturday morning. This one, folks, might

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Speaker 1: be one for the record. I'm one of these.

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Speaker 2: Guys that I'm always skeptical about this stuff, but this

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Speaker 2: one really does look like the real deal, and people

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Speaker 2: ought to be taking it seriously.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you look at it, and we'll be updating

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Speaker 1: and what we get here, so we'll make sure that

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Speaker 1: we keep you informed. But just kind of the highlights

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Speaker 1: or low lights, if you will. Eight inches to twelve

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Speaker 1: inches of snow, perhaps more ten am. That's supposed to

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Speaker 1: start an hour from now, but I've heard others say

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Speaker 1: that it's more likely that it'll be later in the afternoon,

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Speaker 1: maybe about three or four or four degrees now. But

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Speaker 1: we're lucky because it feels like twelve below with the

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Speaker 1: windshield factor. But you know, like I said, in the past,

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Speaker 1: I've been skeptical of this. There was one I think

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Speaker 1: last year, not anywhere near the scale of this one,

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Speaker 1: that I kind of blew off, and it was the

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Speaker 1: real deal. I think what it is is that the meteorologist,

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Speaker 1: just like everything, their technology is improving and they're doing

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Speaker 1: a pretty good job on predicting this stuff. But you know,

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Speaker 1: when I was thinking about what to talk about today,

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Speaker 1: and we will be doing some political stuff, we got

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Speaker 1: Janie Heisel of the Epoch Times got her calling in

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Speaker 1: at ten o'clock. She's spent a part of the week

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Speaker 1: in Minneapolis. Today. Of course she's covering four of the

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Speaker 1: Epoch Times. The fraud scandal out there. I guess we're

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Speaker 1: now up to ten billion dollars in counting. There were

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Speaker 1: some important things that happened this week. We're going to

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Speaker 1: check in with Channis to see what the deal there is,

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Speaker 1: and at eleven we're gonna check in with our friend

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Speaker 1: Christopher Smithman just to kind of see what's on his mind.

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Speaker 1: Always interesting to talk to Christopher. But in the meantime,

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Speaker 1: sure would like to have your calls on any subject

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Speaker 1: that you want to talk about. I kind of think

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Speaker 1: it'll probably revolve around the weather today. Seven four, nine,

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Speaker 1: seven thousand and one, eight hundred, the big one are

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Speaker 1: the numbers. So really would like to have you as

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Speaker 1: a part of this thing. Okay, again thinking about what

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Speaker 1: to talk about today, it kind of took me back

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Speaker 1: to the years of nineteen seventy seven and nineteen seventy

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Speaker 1: that was some serious weather stuff. Seventy seven. Uh, it

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Speaker 1: was a situation. I don't know which one was worse,

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Speaker 1: seventy seven or seventy eight, and I kind of get

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Speaker 1: them because they were both bad, but just kind of

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Speaker 1: in an nutshell. Seventy seven record breaking cold. This is

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Speaker 1: the year too that the Ohio River froze over solid,

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Speaker 1: froze over solid from January the eighteenth to January the

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Speaker 1: twenty third, then it froze over again from January the

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Speaker 1: thirtieth to February the seventh. And thanks to local nit

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Speaker 1: Tite historian John Crummen for finding this stuff for me.

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Speaker 1: Coldest month on record in the history of Ohio. Are

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Speaker 1: you ready for this? On January eighteen, nineteen seventy seven,

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Speaker 1: the temperature dropped to twenty five below and then on

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Speaker 1: nineteen it was nineteen below the next day, then twenty

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Speaker 1: four below again, and of course the river froze over

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you from my own personal thing. We just

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Speaker 1: couldn't help, but my buddies and I, as a lot

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Speaker 1: of people did. We drove down there to the public

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Speaker 1: walking across the river. I mean it was just like

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Speaker 1: We walked across the river. There was a place called,

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Speaker 1: Dewey Paluso's Newport Yacht Club. Walked over there, got in

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Speaker 1: and went up to the bar, got a couple double

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Speaker 1: shots of jack, and walked back over. And I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you what I am not. I never have been a

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Speaker 1: whiskey drinker, but on that day it was the thing

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Speaker 1: to do. Walk back over. And there are pictures of

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Speaker 1: Like I said, I've been working with a story in

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Speaker 1: John Crumen on this, and we were able to find

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Speaker 1: a news report. I believe this is Channel five from

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Speaker 1: that bitter winter of nineteen seventy seven. Liam, Can you

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Speaker 1: play that please?

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Speaker 3: It is January sixteenth, nineteen seventy seven, and already a

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Speaker 4: City councilnated evidence today they're sick of this stuff, the

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Speaker 4: snow that we.

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Speaker 5: Have had way too much of so far this year,

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Speaker 3: Our little disco just over two weeks gone in the

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Speaker 3: new year. We are short on fuel and some are

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Speaker 6: There are people really in need. As soon as we

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Speaker 7: Most oil reaches the tri State by barge.

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Speaker 8: The frozen Ohio River has virtually cut off this supply route.

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Speaker 3: On January seventeenth, the temperature drops to twenty four below.

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Speaker 9: Unfortunately, I think the worst is still to come.

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Speaker 5: The gasoline dealers may start running out of gasoline about March, and.

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Speaker 10: We've already exhausted half of our budget for the year

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Speaker 10: nineteen seventy seven.

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Speaker 3: And on January eighteenth, the temperature in Cincinnati drops to

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Speaker 3: twenty five below zero, with the chance of even more

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Speaker 3: snow and no chance of school closing. Schools nowt for

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Speaker 3: thirty days were to require us to have.

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Speaker 7: Some days in July.

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Speaker 3: When it was all said and done, January of nineteen

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Speaker 3: seventy seven would be the coldest on record, with the

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Speaker 3: average daily temperature of fifty degrees.

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Speaker 1: But by then everybody knew about the river.

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Speaker 11: We body it off the immediately, play all the way

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Speaker 11: up to the shore badly.

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Speaker 12: Want to take your.

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Speaker 3: Pictures on a show plan Michael Common, Cincinnati's News five tonight.

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Speaker 1: There you go. They talked about people being on the river.

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Speaker 1: I don't remember any kind of police officer or anyone

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Speaker 1: thankfully nobody fell in, nobody got hurt, nobody died. But

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Speaker 1: it was something to remember. I mean, it really was.

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Speaker 1: And you know, being young, we just we made it fun.

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Speaker 1: It was like a party at extended party had a

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Speaker 1: big one of those in nineteen seventy eight, had some

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Speaker 1: and I guess it's kind of debatable. I think probably

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Speaker 1: both pretty bad. The Great Blizzard of nineteen seventy eight,

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Speaker 1: you had hurricane force winds fifty to seventy miles per hour,

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Speaker 1: for fourteen Already Governor Rhodes declared the state of emergency,

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Speaker 1: and he called it the greatest disaster in Ohio history.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that it was that bad, but it

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Speaker 1: was bad. And if James A. Rhades said it, well,

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Speaker 1: who am I to argue? Yeah, and get into this. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you do see the seriousness. Fifty one deaths in Ohio

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Speaker 1: and seventy to ninety in the Midwest. Altogether total snow

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Speaker 1: in January thirty one and a half inches. So it

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Speaker 1: was bad. And again making sure that you guys know

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Speaker 1: your history, I've got a brief news report from nineteen

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Speaker 1: seventy eight, lim can you play that please?

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Speaker 7: The streets from terrible condition.

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Speaker 6: It's fifty degrees below windshill factor in s lice. So

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Speaker 6: what I'm asking is that all private vehicles to stay

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Speaker 6: off the streets. The reason is they're blocking the way

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Speaker 7: I'll know for the veterans out here to customer this

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Speaker 1: But the last account out of anything of this nature

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Speaker 1: was nineteen fifty and it wasn't their church as we

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Speaker 9: This is a classic example of why the city mayor,

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Speaker 9: the city manager and other city officials wants people to

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Speaker 9: stay off of the roads. Today, nine metro buses stopped

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Speaker 9: on the hill a Queen City Avenue, along with literally

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Speaker 9: one hundreds of cars. Again, if you don't have to drive,

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Speaker 9: don't drive.

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Speaker 8: What the Kenton County Police are doing is just one

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Speaker 13: And there's people on both sides of the river struggle

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Speaker 13: to survive the blizzard of seventy eight.

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Speaker 14: Officer, Can you tell me why you have these passengers

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Speaker 13: Well, the metro bus it was about eighty I'm stuck

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Speaker 13: going up the nil and we're gonna try to get

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Speaker 13: can get home or something like that.

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Speaker 1: What out you wonderful?

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Speaker 5: Can I talk to you just a minute?

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Speaker 14: How do you feel?

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Speaker 12: Big friends?

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Speaker 2: Order for this?

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Speaker 1: It's about a police vehicle right We're waiting at all

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Speaker 1: you know. The killer situation, which still exists.

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Speaker 15: On many Greater Cincinnati highways, is a strange combination of glare,

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Speaker 15: hard ice and very soft, drifting snow. Let me show

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Speaker 15: you what it looks like, because you shouldn't come out

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Speaker 15: here and find out for yourself a hammer. This is

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Speaker 1: It's extremely slippery.

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Speaker 15: It's inches deep here and off the road about a

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Speaker 16: And we're in the Cincinnati city limits.

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Speaker 15: We should try to negotiate a road out in the country.

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Speaker 15: This snow here could be higher than your car.

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Speaker 1: There you go. The Great Blizzard of nineteen seventy eight,

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Speaker 1: and as I said, it was something pretty cool to

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Speaker 1: but it was unbelievable, it really was. And you heard

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Speaker 1: was going to be a part of it. But Queen

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Speaker 1: tell you a story about that. I was living at

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Speaker 1: was the big place to be when your first move

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Speaker 1: out of the home was a place called Charleston Square.

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Speaker 1: Now it's still there. I don't know what they're calling

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Speaker 1: it now though, but you know, a lot of young professionals,

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Speaker 1: young people were there, and honestly, we kind of made

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Speaker 1: a party of it for three or four days. There's

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Speaker 1: really nothing else to do. I was a UC police

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Speaker 1: a couple of years back from Cincinnati, and I remember

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Speaker 1: walking to work, walking from Charleston Square, which is on

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Speaker 1: Queen City, up to UC because there ain't no way

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Speaker 1: I was going to drive it. It really wasn't that

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Speaker 1: bad of a walk at all, but the Queen City

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Speaker 1: Avenue thing, I just think, please remember literally watching that

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Speaker 1: go up Queen City, stalled out, couldn't not stalled out,

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Speaker 1: I recall it. Okay, it had rained, wasn't real cold

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Speaker 18: Hey, good morning, Jane, Good morning, Good morning, nineteen seventy seven. Yes,

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Speaker 20: Well fun maybe. But Dad had his tractor, you know,

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Speaker 19: Hey Mike, good morning.

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Speaker 21: I also survived through seventy seven seventy eight. We were

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Speaker 21: But my favorite winter is the February fourth.

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Speaker 19: Of ninety eight.

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Speaker 21: Okay, my wife went to labor about two o'clock in

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Speaker 17: Much all that was left.

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Speaker 1: What year was that, Steve, did you say ninety eight?

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Speaker 22: Ninety eight?

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Speaker 21: It's a matter, Well, we were I was going to

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Speaker 17: Is more like it.

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Speaker 1: That's a great story. I really appreciate.

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Speaker 7: You're welcome.

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Speaker 21: Hey, thanks a lot, and be safe, have fun.

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Speaker 1: Enjoy it you too, Steve, thank you. Yeah, you know

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Speaker 1: ninety eight. I don't remember that. I was still here.

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Speaker 19: So, yeah, the February ninety eight, it shut the highways

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Speaker 1: You got the job?

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Speaker 19: You go, man, you guys, I'll call you when your

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Speaker 1: I was hoping you would say you got the job.

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Speaker 1: That's great.

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Speaker 19: It was me and one other guy that showed up

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Speaker 19: I'm sure I'll get a couple. But yeah, that was

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Speaker 19: Fifteen years until they closed?

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Speaker 12: Whoa?

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Speaker 1: You know what?

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Speaker 1: You know what? And I hope there's a bunch of

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Speaker 1: great story, mall I.

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Speaker 12: Uh.

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Speaker 19: We headed up seventy five and wow was on And

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Speaker 10: Yeah, Mike, Yeah, we're gonna get it here like nine

442
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Speaker 10: to twelve inches. You know when we were I'm about

443
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Speaker 10: your age, we didn't have the cell phones, we didn't

444
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Speaker 10: pay four hour television, remember that. Yeah, you were glued

445
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Speaker 10: to the TV watching you know what, when's it coming?

446
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Speaker 17: All this?

447
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Speaker 10: And I think that's the way these everybody heads to

448
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Speaker 10: the stores. They get all you know, excited, of course

449
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Speaker 10: through all the media and everything, especially Roger. Yeah, well

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Speaker 10: I would I came from Kroger this morning. I got

451
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Speaker 10: there early, and I would just like to say thanks

452
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Speaker 10: to all their employees. You know that they're working so

453
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Speaker 10: hard to stock your shelves and everything, and we take

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Speaker 10: it for granted. You know, all the the truck drivers

455
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Speaker 10: that have to drive and you know to the store.

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Speaker 1: You're absolutely right, You're absolutely right. I'm glad you said that.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, they're the real real heroes. You know, we talked

458
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Speaker 10: about all the sports figures and everything, but this is

459
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Speaker 10: you know, survival for some people.

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Speaker 7: Sure, and you.

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Speaker 10: Know we take it for granted, and and back then too.

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Speaker 10: Am radio. AM radio is still important. I know some

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Speaker 10: of the car manufacturers would think about taking that out

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Speaker 10: of those cars. But you know, AM radio was big

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Speaker 10: then and it's still big. You know, people depend on

466
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Speaker 10: AM radio for the news, the weather, and that's so important.

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Speaker 10: Who remember who the governor was during the blizzard.

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Speaker 7: Governor Rhoads, a roads man. He did a good job.

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Speaker 10: He did a real good job handling everything. I guess

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Speaker 10: a dress. I remember the dress were like. I lived

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Speaker 10: out in the country at that time, and I bet

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Speaker 10: you there were fifteen twenty feet high next to the road.

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Speaker 7: She was crazy.

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Speaker 10: But all the Freezer Bowl, remember the players, Ken Anderson,

475
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Speaker 10: Chris Collinsworth, I'm looking. I got on the internet while

476
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Speaker 10: I was waiting, Anthony Knus and Dave Lapham and I

477
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Speaker 10: think Trump he was on that team too, a wide receiver.

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Speaker 10: But and the temperature was minus fifty nine degrees to windshill.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know what, George, I can't say that I

480
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Speaker 1: was there because I wasn't.

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Speaker 7: I wasn't there.

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Speaker 1: My mother, who was probably in her sixties, early sixties,

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Speaker 1: late fifties at the time, she was there. I couldn't

484
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Speaker 1: believe she went, and she said, there was actually a

485
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Speaker 1: couple of clowns there. Took their shirts off, took their

486
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Speaker 1: coats off. I don't know how in the hell they

487
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Speaker 1: didn't die, because that was like frostbite weather.

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Speaker 10: Oh yeah, and uh uh see what was they going

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Speaker 10: to say? You so say something?

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Speaker 12: Oh?

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Speaker 10: I was just thinking, if the Bengals had the perfect

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Speaker 10: season this past season, they would be playing them orrow

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Speaker 10: and they probably if they had the perfect season, they

494
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Speaker 10: would be playing in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: Oh you know what, Now that's interesting. Wouldn't that be something?

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Speaker 10: Well, that would be something for the Ages too. Absolutely

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Speaker 10: next year, maybe next year, and maybe the you know,

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Speaker 10: the Reds. I'm rooting for the Reds. It's time for

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Speaker 10: the Reds to do something big time.

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Speaker 1: We're getting real close to pitchers and catchers reporting. I

501
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Speaker 1: think it's only a couple of weeks, so we're getting there.

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Speaker 10: I think spring spring training. I think the first games

503
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Speaker 10: like February twenty first. I already looked at the schedule,

504
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Speaker 10: so I'm getting ready for it.

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Speaker 1: Not that far away. Hey, George, I appreciate the call.

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Speaker 10: Okay, we'll see Mike, Thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, my mother she said she was going with you

508
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Speaker 1: know my uncle and his family was Yeah, sure, Mom.

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Speaker 1: She actually went to the thing, and I don't remember

510
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Speaker 1: her complaining much about any of that, and she was

511
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Speaker 1: not one to hold her feelings back, trust me. But

512
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Speaker 1: she went down there and just got pictures that was

513
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Speaker 1: pretty cool. Who's up next? I'm doing this by the way,

514
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Speaker 1: the Democrats, Small d Way, whoever's been hanging on the longest. Hey,

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Speaker 1: let's talk to doctor Dennis in Annapolis. Hey, Doc, how

516
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 1: you doing all right?

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Speaker 7: Mike? Oh you good?

518
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Speaker 1: Good? What you got good?

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Speaker 7: Okay?

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Speaker 17: You were talking about.

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Speaker 23: The the Ohio River freezing and over.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and the guy was out.

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Speaker 24: There driving his Volkswagen Yeah, which I would assume, which

524
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Speaker 24: I would assume would be a Volkswagen bug.

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Speaker 1: Right, it was was that you, Doc?

526
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Speaker 23: No, But but what I was going to say is

527
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Speaker 23: he probably bought well I don't know if it's true

528
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Speaker 23: or not, but he probably bought into You know, Volkswagen

529
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Speaker 23: had a TV ad going where they show that the Volkswagen.

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Speaker 24: Bug could float on water real. They showed him in

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Speaker 24: a swimming pool. Yeah yeah, yeah, and the National Lampoon

532
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Speaker 24: you remember that magazine? Yeah, yeah, they had a thing

533
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Speaker 24: going where and said if only Ted Ted Kennedy, the

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Speaker 24: only driven of Volkswagen bug at chap Equidding.

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Speaker 1: That's good. That's good.

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Speaker 19: That's all I got, Mike.

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Speaker 1: Theyre okay, you too, buddy, thank you. That's funny. I

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Speaker 1: mean yeah, I guess it would have floated, but he

539
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Speaker 1: still would have frozen's butt off out there. Whoever it was.

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Speaker 1: I don't remember the collar or anything like that. I

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Speaker 1: just remember the dude. He got about a third the

542
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Speaker 1: way out from the shore down at the public landing

543
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Speaker 1: and was doing donuts out there, And as far as

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Speaker 1: I know, he made it with no problem. We would

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Speaker 1: have heard if he wasn't. I think we got time

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Speaker 1: to squeeze one more in here before the news. Hey,

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Speaker 1: let's talk to Don in Hyde Park. Hey, Don, how

548
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 1: are you?

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00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 7: They're all in here?

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Speaker 21: Okay, there Don, he Don.

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Speaker 1: Hey, let's go back to Don a little bit. How

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Speaker 1: about Steve in Northern Entucky? Hey, Steve, how you doing?

553
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Speaker 14: I'm doing great?

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Speaker 12: How about you?

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Speaker 25: I'm good about seventy nine?

556
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Speaker 17: So I do remember that I did want to bring out.

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Speaker 14: Did you see Sarah Gonzalas's.

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Speaker 17: Expo on the H one.

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Speaker 1: D Visus in Texas? No? No, no, tell us about it?

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Speaker 17: Well, that is. It's pretty much.

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Speaker 14: Similar to the Nick Shirley exposition.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, yeah, tell us about it.

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Speaker 17: So what I'm gonna do is, I'm gonna give you

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Speaker 17: if you go to.

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Speaker 14: Sarah Gonzealees t X okay, he's got videos on there,

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Speaker 14: and she'll do a much better job than I did.

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Speaker 14: She is definitely a firecracker.

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Speaker 26: X yeah okay, s A r A no h you

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Speaker 26: z a l e x t X okay.

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Speaker 17: Dot com and that'll get you to the videos. She's

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Speaker 17: got some videos there.

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Speaker 21: They're pretty pretty cool.

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Speaker 14: She's very spicy, she's she's she's a blaze.

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Speaker 26: Star.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, yeah, you know what, I will check it

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Speaker 1: out during the break. I appreciate you. Let right, okay, right,

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Speaker 1: we'll lead.

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Speaker 19: Off with that and then seventy seven.

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Speaker 17: I learned to drive in seventy seven.

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Speaker 7: Okay, there you could not.

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Speaker 17: I mean they plowed it, and.

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Speaker 14: Of course there's like or six foot high they're not drifts,

583
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Speaker 14: but whatever snow banks on the side of the road.

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Speaker 14: And the guy, the instructor picked me up and said, hey,

585
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Speaker 14: the last guy, you need to drive real carefully because

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Speaker 14: we spent forty minutes digging my vehicle out of the

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Speaker 14: out of the snow.

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Speaker 19: So so we ended up doing that.

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Speaker 1: We went over to mount.

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Speaker 14: Airy Forest and I learned how to drive in the

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Speaker 14: snow in mount Airy Forest. Pretty amazing.

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Speaker 17: Of course.

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Speaker 14: Then we had that freezer bowl where the Bengals were

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Speaker 14: wearing pantyhose and things.

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Speaker 19: Like that, Yeah, which was very interesting.

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Speaker 27: It was wide, but they made a big deal about that.

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Speaker 1: Oh sure, but that was so cool. Well, anyway, shake

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Speaker 1: the call. I'm bumping up against it now.

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Speaker 17: Maybe maybe maybe by next weekend, you could comment on

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Speaker 17: on those videos.

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Speaker 14: I'm gonna sto content in general, but I will.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna check it out during the break. Hey, thanks

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00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: again for tipping me off on that. Hey, we do

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Speaker 1: have to take a break for the news, but when

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Speaker 1: we come back, we are going to do a little

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Speaker 1: bit of work here. We are going to talk to

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Speaker 1: Janis Heisel of the Epoch Times. She spent a good

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Speaker 1: part of the week in Minnesota, and we're going to

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Speaker 1: get the update with her what's happening out there with

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Speaker 1: with respect to the now as I understand it, ten

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Speaker 1: billion dollar scandal. We'll do that when we get back

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Speaker 1: an hour two of Saturday midday, taking a break here

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Speaker 1: from the weather talk. However, when we are finished with

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Speaker 1: this segment, we're going back to it. So seven four nine,

615
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Speaker 1: seven thousand, one, eight hundred, the big one are the numbers.

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Speaker 1: Until then, we're going to talk serious stuff and that's

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Speaker 1: what's going on in Minnesota. Janis Heisel has been covering

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Speaker 1: this story for the Epoch Times, getting a lot of

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Speaker 1: attention for it too, for her great work on it,

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Speaker 1: and she was in Minneapolis this week, and we're going

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Speaker 1: to talk to her about it. Janis, how are you

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Speaker 1: doing this morning?

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Speaker 28: Well, Mike, I am actually trying to stay warm. I

624
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Speaker 28: think that's a challenge.

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Speaker 1: I heard. Are you back home?

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Speaker 28: Thankfully? Yes, I am, because I did check the weather

627
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Speaker 28: for Minneapolis.

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00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 28: And I have to say it was kind of interesting

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Speaker 28: that I just covered a Vice President JD Vance's remarks

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Speaker 28: and he was saying that he wanted the protesters and

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Speaker 28: to turn everybody to turn the temperature down. Wall He

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Speaker 28: got his wish because it's fifteen below there in Minneapolis today.

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Speaker 1: Hey, you know what, that's pretty impressive trick for him.

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Speaker 18: Man.

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Speaker 1: You know that's really something. Hey, you filed no less

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Speaker 1: than three kind of three stories this week. Give us

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Speaker 1: the update janis what's going on there, and then specifically

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Speaker 1: we can talk about what the vice president had to say.

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Speaker 28: Yeah, So the first story that I did, I talked

641
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Speaker 28: about how at times it's it's kind of cool we

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Speaker 28: do these surveys of our readers on you know, the

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Speaker 28: important issues of the day, to find out what is

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Speaker 28: the pulse of the readers, and you know, it really

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00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 28: does help us to shape our coverage, you know, because

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00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 28: we understand what people are looking for, what their attitudes are,

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Speaker 28: things like that.

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Speaker 25: And it was about ice and.

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Speaker 28: The questions surrounded you know, the shooting. You know, it's

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Speaker 28: a terrible situation all around. You know, from what I

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00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 28: know police officers I've spoken to, they don't want to

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Speaker 28: discharge their weapons and they know their lives will change forever,

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Speaker 28: you know, if somebody is killed, even if they're not killed,

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Speaker 28: just wouldn't I mean to go into all these investigations,

655
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Speaker 28: sometimes their docs, which is the case here, you know,

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Speaker 28: death threats against them and their families.

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Speaker 25: It's it's a really really it's.

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Speaker 28: Not something that you know, there's an image that police

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Speaker 28: are cowboys out there shooting guns, and you know, maybe

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Speaker 28: there are a few that have that attitude, and in

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Speaker 28: my experience, most officers just want.

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Speaker 1: To get home to their families.

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Speaker 28: This survey that we did basically showed that our readers

664
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Speaker 28: do in fact support ice in this instance. They're saying

665
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Speaker 28: that they felt overwhelmingly that the actions taken here were

666
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Speaker 28: probably appropriate. That the officer, you know, most likely was

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Speaker 28: feeling that his life was engagered when that vehicle was

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Speaker 28: moving in his direction, and you know, the lady had

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Speaker 28: not stopped the vehicle as ordered and gotten out of

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Speaker 28: the vehicle. So that was one of the findings. It

671
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Speaker 28: was like ninety three percent readers said they agree very

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Speaker 28: much or somewhat that the use of force against renee

673
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Speaker 28: Good was justified, which you contrast that with the reaction

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Speaker 28: we're seeing in Minneapolis.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's striking, it really is. And you know, I

676
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Speaker 1: read the poll earlier in the week and come to

677
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Speaker 1: the conclusion that I think President Trump ought to do

678
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Speaker 1: an executive order ordering everyone in this country to read

679
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Speaker 1: yet back times specifically you're writing, I think we'd be

680
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Speaker 1: in great shape.

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Speaker 28: Janis Well, I tell you we have kind of a

682
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Speaker 28: new slogan that it's journalism for thinking, you know, thinking leaders,

683
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Speaker 28: and it really is because you know, we try not

684
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Speaker 28: to go for the sensationalism, but we try to go

685
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Speaker 28: for the angle that is meaningful. What is the meaning

686
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Speaker 28: of this, What is the importance of this, What is

687
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Speaker 28: the impact on regular people? Yes, so that is what

688
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Speaker 28: I really try to focus on with my reporting. And

689
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Speaker 28: so the next story that Oh, interestingly, speaking of media coverage,

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Speaker 28: I don't know if you noticed this, MC, but on

691
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Speaker 28: the reader survey, like no percent of readers said they

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Speaker 28: thought that the coverage of that event with the shooting

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Speaker 28: was balanced. And I can't write I know, I.

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Speaker 1: Know, I know. I was surprised at that too. I

695
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Speaker 1: don't know what they're watching, but it's not been balanced

696
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Speaker 1: two percent.

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Speaker 28: So yeah, I would you know, I'm not surprised one bit.

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Speaker 28: And you know, I've uh. I usually don't give my

699
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Speaker 28: opinion on much of anything because that's not my role.

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Speaker 28: But I will say my opinion of you know, journalism

701
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Speaker 28: in general. Uh, it's it's just it's so sad to

702
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Speaker 28: see the degradation to the standards that I was taught.

703
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Speaker 25: To uphold as a journalism student.

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Speaker 28: They literally I feel like an endangered species.

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Speaker 12: Mic.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, I really.

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Speaker 1: Try to go down the middle. Well, you're doing it right,

708
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Speaker 1: and I mean, you're right. In the survey, readers also

709
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Speaker 1: frowned upon media coverage of the shooting, with like you said,

710
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Speaker 1: Janis two percent, saying they very much agreed that the

711
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Speaker 1: coverage was balanced. If doesn't that speak volumes? I mean, again,

712
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Speaker 1: obviously these are some right leaning people, but it speaks

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Speaker 1: volumes that I know are a little bit off topic.

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Speaker 1: But where do you rectify that? I guess in the

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Speaker 1: journalism schools, but good luck with that who they've got

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Speaker 1: teaching journalism.

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Speaker 27: Yeah.

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Speaker 28: I was kind of mulling this over the other day

719
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Speaker 28: in the airport with a gentleman, and I was saying

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Speaker 28: that I wonder if maybe there should be some type

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Speaker 28: of an accreditation so at least people would see that.

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Speaker 28: You know, maybe you should take a test and look

723
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Speaker 28: at a passage of coffee and say what words in

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Speaker 28: here are biased that you should remove things like that.

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Speaker 28: I don't know, I've just kind of been thinking this over,

726
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Speaker 28: but yeah, it's really really sad what has happened. And

727
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Speaker 28: the actually dovetails into some remarks that were made by

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Speaker 28: the vice process. So there were some questions that media

729
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Speaker 28: people asked. I raised my hand over and over again

730
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Speaker 28: and I didn't get recognized to ask a question this time,

731
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Speaker 28: but you could hear their voices were trumpling. They seemed

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Speaker 28: to be, in my opinion, they seemed to be kind

733
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Speaker 28: of angry, and they were going, what about this five

734
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Speaker 28: year old child? Are you proud of the way that

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Speaker 28: Ice is behating? They said, there was a five year

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Speaker 28: old child who that Ice attained. Well, Jadvance responded in

737
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Speaker 28: a very call manner and said, well, you know, I

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Speaker 28: was shocked to hear that too.

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Speaker 25: That's horrible.

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Speaker 1: I have a five year old.

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Speaker 25: He said.

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Speaker 28: And so but this is this is the part that

743
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Speaker 28: this is a process that he followed that journalists need

744
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Speaker 28: to follow, and that is to use your noggin. If

745
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Speaker 28: something sounds kind of outrageous, you need to then ask, well, wow,

746
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Speaker 28: what really happened here?

747
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Speaker 10: And that is.

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Speaker 25: Exactly what he did.

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Speaker 28: And upon further looking into it, guess what the rest

750
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Speaker 28: of the story is. The child was left alone after

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Speaker 28: his father, an a legal immigrant, fled and just left

752
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Speaker 28: the kid there in the cold. Belab that's why the

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Speaker 28: kid was quote unquote in custody or detained however you

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Speaker 28: want to put it. And that part of the story

755
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Speaker 28: was not told at least it wasn't in the headline

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Speaker 28: right it was five year old detained. And so the

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Speaker 28: way I see it is that if reporters go into

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Speaker 28: a story with filters in place.

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Speaker 1: By is bad, that's what.

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Speaker 28: They are going to see. In any situation, you need

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Speaker 28: to remove the filter.

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Speaker 25: As much as possible. It's hard to do, I admit that,

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Speaker 25: but you have to do.

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Speaker 28: You have to try your very best, and I don't

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Speaker 28: see that effort.

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Speaker 25: A lot of times unfortunately, No, not at all.

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Speaker 1: And I don't think with the majority of the mainstream media.

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Speaker 1: It's not about accuracy. It's about narrative, you know, and

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Speaker 1: that's sad.

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Speaker 28: Yeah, sometimes it maybe even like a subconscious thing because

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Speaker 28: they haven't, you know, taken a step back.

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Speaker 25: We're all under time pressure.

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Speaker 28: But still you have to that's your professional obligation.

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Speaker 25: I feel that very strongly.

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Speaker 28: Onney off of that topic, you know, it was very

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Speaker 28: interesting to hear the Vice President speak and say that,

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Speaker 28: you know, quote unquote turned down the temperature, as I

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Speaker 28: mentioned earlier, but he feels the temperature keeps getting turned

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Speaker 28: up because people like the Governor Tim Walls of Minnesota

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Speaker 28: and Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Fry continually come out and criticize

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Speaker 28: ICE and say I shouldn't be doing this, I shouldn't

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Speaker 28: be doing that, and we forget one of the main

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Speaker 28: reasons ICE is there is because immigration fraud.

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Speaker 25: Fraud in general.

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Speaker 28: Defrauding government programs and including immigration benefits are one of

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Speaker 28: the biggest drivers of why ICE started to really focus

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Speaker 28: on that state. And they consider themselves a sanctuary state,

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Speaker 28: which protects illegal immigrants.

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Speaker 25: So there's this clash.

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Speaker 28: So I don't know if you saw Mike, but yesterday

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Speaker 28: at the Minneapolis airport, there were droves of protesters and

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Speaker 28: most people do not realize this, but I'm going to.

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Speaker 25: Try to check in this and find out.

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Speaker 28: Minnesota now has a state law where people can have

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Speaker 28: up to I think like twenty.

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Speaker 25: Weeks of paid sick time, and.

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Speaker 28: The activists were guess what encouraging people to take sick

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Speaker 28: time to participate, And then everybody goes look at the

799
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Speaker 28: huge crowd of protesters, see how dedicated they are. Well,

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Speaker 28: maybe they are dedicated, or maybe they are some people

801
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Speaker 28: said brainwash, I'm seeing.

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Speaker 29: That, but.

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Speaker 28: Or maybe it's a combination of factors including hey, I

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Speaker 28: can get a pay day off from work.

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Speaker 25: I'm just going to say I'm sick today, you know.

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Speaker 1: What, and somebody needs to do a deep dive. Maybe

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Speaker 1: you will someday janis into that particular issue because I'm

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Speaker 1: convinced that they're being paid and it's organized. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it just has to be based upon what I'm seeing.

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Speaker 1: What do you think?

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Speaker 28: Well, you know, I really really wanted to ask that

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Speaker 28: question of the Vice president whether he believes that and

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Speaker 28: whether they are investigating.

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Speaker 25: I do believe that that.

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Speaker 28: Is part of what they are missigating. Maybe he wouldn't

816
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Speaker 28: have answered it, so I kind of was play around

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Speaker 28: with exactly how to worded that.

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Speaker 25: Question that I never got to ask.

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Speaker 28: But you know, I really think that, you know, there

820
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Speaker 28: are some what we call keyboard warriors out there.

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Speaker 25: Some of them do very good work.

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Speaker 28: I don't want to be the disparaging of anybody, but

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Speaker 28: in some cases they aren't really doing due diligence to

824
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Speaker 28: make sure that the data they have is correct. Some

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Speaker 28: of them are get really really good at it, though,

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Speaker 28: and it does seem I've seen signs that maybe some

827
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Speaker 28: of these people are being paid, and there do seem

828
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Speaker 28: to be quite a few groups that are possibly paying protesters.

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Speaker 28: I really don't know what's the truth there. I'm suspicious

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Speaker 28: of it, but I don't know yet. And frankly, I've

831
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Speaker 28: been cap dancing so fast in so many different directions

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Speaker 28: that I haven't really had an opportunity to try to

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Speaker 28: dig into that too much. There's one of my colleagues

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Speaker 28: who is kind of working on that, and she and

835
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Speaker 28: I may be collaborating on something in the future.

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Speaker 1: Well, you're doing great work, not just to you, but

837
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Speaker 1: the paper as well, and that needs to happen. You

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Speaker 1: just referenced this a little bit. There was a big

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Speaker 1: powow at the state capitol this week. You were there

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Speaker 1: for that or were you not? Or did you?

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Speaker 28: Yeah, I had a very very busy week, just a

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Speaker 28: few days in Minnesota, and I was there for several events, including,

843
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Speaker 28: like I said, the remarks by the Vice president, and

844
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Speaker 28: also the fraud committee meeting that was in the state

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Speaker 28: capital of Saint Paul. And there it was there it

846
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Speaker 28: was kind of the oxygen kind of went out of

847
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Speaker 28: the room when the lady who's the chief financial officer

848
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Speaker 28: was being questioned about why is no one being held

849
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Speaker 28: accountable for the fraud and she explained, Hey, it's our

850
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Speaker 28: role as the top agency to set financial procedures and

851
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Speaker 28: then it's up to the individual departments to follow those.

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Speaker 28: And so then the question was asked, what happens when

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Speaker 28: the procedures, policies, our financial controls are not followed, when

854
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Speaker 28: those things are violated, and the answer was basically, we

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Speaker 28: do our best to support them, and and they kept

856
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Speaker 28: pressing and saying, what about accountability. Yeah, I'm sick and

857
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Speaker 28: tired of no accountability taxpayers. There's a sentiment out there,

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Speaker 28: even from many people I know, who feel like, why

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Speaker 28: am I paying my taxes? Why am I paying my

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Speaker 28: taxes when these people are getting away with fraud, and

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Speaker 28: that the people that are supposed to be policing the

862
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Speaker 28: money aren't held accountable when the money goes out the

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Speaker 28: door inappropriately.

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Speaker 1: You know, at the end of the day, they have

865
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Speaker 1: to be because if they're not held accountable, this is

866
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Speaker 1: just going to continue. And I don't know if you heard,

867
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Speaker 1: and I don't have any specifics. There's some big deal

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Speaker 1: that happened in California along the same route as what

869
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Speaker 1: you're investigating with respect to money for homeless, that they

870
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Speaker 1: were given these different agencies so much money to help

871
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Speaker 1: the homeless get them a place to stay and homelessness

872
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Speaker 1: has gotten ten times worse in California. So at some

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Speaker 1: point some of these people are going to have to

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Speaker 1: be held accountable. I would imagine the tax page at

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Speaker 1: some point are going to.

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Speaker 28: Say enough, Yeah, we have staff in California, and Franklin

877
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Speaker 28: been so busy in Minnesota.

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Speaker 25: I'd rather go because.

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00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 28: It's warmer California, although it's a longer flight. But no,

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Speaker 28: in all joking aside, I mean that is a very

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Speaker 28: very serious issue. I mentioned in previous interviews with you,

882
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Speaker 28: Mike that you know, I do think that the fraud

883
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 28: in California is also really, really bad. But I also

884
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:34,280
Speaker 28: think that per capita that Minnesota still may be worse

885
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 28: because Minnesota doesn't have that many people.

886
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 25: It's about half as populous as Ohio.

887
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 28: It's about six million people versus our twelve million or

888
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:43,760
Speaker 28: so here in Ohio.

889
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:45,879
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, No, that's I get that.

890
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 28: I know you've been many more in California. I don't

891
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 28: know the population up hand there.

892
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: Sure, I know you may keep it an eye on

893
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 1: Ohio too. Have you heard anything since we've talked to

894
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: you last about what might be going on in Columbus.

895
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 28: I turned in a story that addresses that and I

896
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 28: don't want to steal my own thunder and so it

897
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 28: hasn't been published yet. It's kind of making its way

898
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 28: through our system as a special report, so we can

899
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 28: we can talk about that maybe on a future time

900
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:13,760
Speaker 28: we have together.

901
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Well where do you go from here? Janis

902
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:21,760
Speaker 1: what's next and on your list to investigate this stuff?

903
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 28: Well, as I mentioned, colleague and I are going to

904
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 28: be discussing what to do about the funding aspect and

905
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 28: see what we can possibly find out and maybe divide

906
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:35,280
Speaker 28: up some work there and do some biggie in that direction.

907
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 28: There are so many different angles to follow on this,

908
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 28: it's almost hard to say we're to begin, you know,

909
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 28: there's just a lot of I've actually asked the state

910
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 28: of Ohio for some additional information public records, so we

911
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 28: do have some public records request outstanding in both Minnesota

912
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 28: and Ohio.

913
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 25: So who knows that.

914
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,839
Speaker 28: Unfortunately a lot of times those records take weeks, if

915
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 28: not months, sometimes years, not necessarily some state agencies, but

916
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 28: I've had federal agencies get back to me like a

917
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 28: year or two later.

918
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 1: A year or two later. Boy, that helps, Yeah.

919
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 28: It's well, you know, in their defense, I mean, they

920
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 28: do get a lot of these requests, I guess, but

921
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 28: it's it's to the point of ridiculous. I hope that

922
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 28: somehow these processes can be streamlined and maybe more thing

923
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 28: is made available online, whether they're not top secret or

924
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 28: something so, like searchable databases for example.

925
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 25: I think some governments are.

926
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 28: Getting better about that to help citizens find things.

927
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,839
Speaker 1: Well, we shall see. Janis. We really appreciate your work,

928
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:36,720
Speaker 1: and I know a lot of others do as well.

929
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 25: Absolutely, and I wouldn't say stay warm, but I think

930
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 25: it's impossible, so maybe we should all stay inside.

931
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: I think you're right. I'm going to all right, thank you,

932
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: all right, thanks, thank you? All right. Janis Heiseel doing

933
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:56,959
Speaker 1: incredible work in Minnesota and elsewhere, you know, just looking

934
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:58,959
Speaker 1: at it here, I asked her. And I just heard

935
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: this this morning the situation in California. Headline from KTLA

936
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 1: out there. Here's the headline from Ramen to Resorts LA.

937
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 1: Charity boss accused in twenty three million dollar homeless scam,

938
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 1: and it goes on to say that federal prosecutors announced

939
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 1: that the head of a Los Angeles charity arrested on

940
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 1: wirefraud charge is accused of stealing more than twenty three

941
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 1: million bucks to help people supposed to be used to

942
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 1: help people experiencing homelessness. That's going to be a big story.

943
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 1: And as Janus said, a hell of a lot more

944
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:43,240
Speaker 1: people in California as opposed to Minnesota, so per capita

945
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 1: of Minnesota might be worse, but you know, they got

946
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:49,359
Speaker 1: to look under some rocks in California as well. Hey,

947
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:51,320
Speaker 1: we got to take a break. Button we get back,

948
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 1: going back to the phones, talking about your experiences with

949
00:49:56,440 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 1: the great blizzards of seventy seven and seventy eight, seven nine,

950
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: seven thousand and one, eight hundred. The big one are

951
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:08,919
Speaker 1: the numbers to call Mike Allen seven hundred WLW. It's cool.

952
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 7: I loved this.

953
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:14,720
Speaker 1: Let's play this out of it's cold outside, this evening

954
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 1: has been horn. You drop.

955
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:20,359
Speaker 17: Your hand?

956
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 30: That just like.

957
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 1: Beautiful? What's you all right? I'll tell you the reason

958
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,479
Speaker 1: why I like that song so much some years ago

959
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 1: was that long ago, uh, during Christmas, a group of

960
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 1: feminists got all wound up about that song because in

961
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 1: their twisted mind, it had something to do with sexual

962
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 1: harassment and you know, not treating women properly. And I

963
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 1: think just about everybody said, now the hell of that,

964
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:55,359
Speaker 1: you're wrong, We're not paying any attention to you. So

965
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,359
Speaker 1: during Christmas I play that thing all the time, So

966
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 1: thank you for that. Liam. Hey, before we get back

967
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:04,399
Speaker 1: to the calls again, seven four nine, seven thousand, one,

968
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 1: eight hundred, the big one are the numbers, I've got

969
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 1: another just very short news clip of the blizzard of

970
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy seven. This one is a retrospective, I believe

971
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:23,280
Speaker 1: from Local twelve. Liam, if you could play that police.

972
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,720
Speaker 31: I've lived in the tri State. You were probably trying

973
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 31: to stay warm, but perhaps you were one of the

974
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 31: ones that dared to cross the frozen Ohio River on

975
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 31: this state in nineteen seventy seven.

976
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 16: Well, what do you say about twenty five degrees below

977
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 16: zero unless you've been to Minnesota.

978
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,240
Speaker 1: It was just it was cold. It was brutal.

979
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 16: It was very bad win and we still had wind

980
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 16: at that point, so the windshiel.

981
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 1: Was just as bad. I mean, it was just terrible.

982
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:49,879
Speaker 1: It was just unbelievable.

983
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 32: There were so many people out on the ice, and

984
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 32: it was not like flat ice. It was big chunks,

985
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 32: so you really had to walk carefully.

986
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 16: Weather records show too, of the top ten all time

987
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:06,720
Speaker 16: coldest high temperatures zero and one below zero, and three

988
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 16: of the all time coldest low temperatures twenty five, twenty

989
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:14,800
Speaker 16: four and twenty one below zero were set between January

990
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 16: sixteenth and eighteenth of nineteen seventy seven. Records also show

991
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,720
Speaker 16: the river was frozen over eight days that month.

992
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 32: The hill coming down from Riverfront Stadium was all frozen,

993
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 32: so when people were sliding down the hill and onto

994
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 32: the ice, it was just really different, like being in

995
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:34,800
Speaker 32: a ice amusement park or something.

996
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 16: Some were on the riverfront to have fun in the

997
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:40,359
Speaker 16: snow and ice, but others were more timid to walk

998
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 16: on something they had never seen before.

999
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 32: It's just creepy. It just didn't feel right. It's like

1000
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 32: I shouldn't be out here. This isn't you know, this

1001
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:49,879
Speaker 32: isn't right.

1002
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 31: If you have photos of the frozen Ohio river back

1003
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 31: from the late nineteen seventies, we invite you to share

1004
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 31: those with us by going to Local Twelves Facebook page

1005
00:52:58,400 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 31: or sharing them with us.

1006
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 1: That's about it for that one. I'll tell you again,

1007
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 1: it's just kind of a look back. This one on

1008
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 1: seventy seven. I've got one. I'm going to play a

1009
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 1: little bit later, last one from nineteen seventy eight, But

1010
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. For those of you that did not

1011
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: experience that, it kind of gives you an idea. It

1012
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: was a huge deal. But like I said before, you know,

1013
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 1: I was kind of young, and yeah, it was dangerous

1014
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: and everything else, but it was not without having a

1015
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 1: little bit of fun. Anyway, let's get back to the

1016
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:34,359
Speaker 1: phones here. Don in Hyde Park has been waiting forever. Hey, Don,

1017
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 1: thanks for hanging in there with us.

1018
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:39,760
Speaker 17: Hey, Mike, enjoy your show.

1019
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 1: Thank you.

1020
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 12: I can say that I have one person that have

1021
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:44,919
Speaker 12: walked on the.

1022
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 7: Moon and my buddies tell me about it.

1023
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:51,760
Speaker 12: And this was during the story the Storm of seventy

1024
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 12: seven seventy eight junior in high school and.

1025
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,320
Speaker 7: You went to Ohio Northern Yes, sir.

1026
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 12: I'll try to condense this, but it's kind of a.

1027
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 7: Long, good story.

1028
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 21: Go ahead.

1029
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 12: We you know it was so you couldn't travel, you

1030
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 12: couldn't do anything, you know, for like a week. Well,

1031
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 12: I lived in Saint Mary's and you know Walpa, Connectic,

1032
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 12: you know that around.

1033
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 7: You know the Neil Armstrong Museum Big Moon.

1034
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:24,800
Speaker 12: Right, Well, so about five days into the being cramped

1035
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 12: in me and my buddies. We we get a couple

1036
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 12: of cars. I take my big brother's car and we

1037
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 12: got we just go on the road.

1038
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 7: We go to a local carry out, one.

1039
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:37,320
Speaker 12: That's only you know, a few that's open. And of course,

1040
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 12: being seventeen eighteen, you know, we're throwing the old Boone's

1041
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:45,800
Speaker 12: farm and screwdriver and you know, the old yeah stuff,

1042
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,879
Speaker 12: you know, and and off the wallpark would go, and

1043
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 12: you know, so you can imagine by the time we

1044
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 12: get to really we get to the we get to

1045
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 12: the museum, so the parking lots have been cleared out.

1046
00:54:58,040 --> 00:54:58,800
Speaker 7: But nothing else.

1047
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 12: So we just unloaded out there and we start climbing

1048
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 12: up on that big f whatever, a fighter jet, and

1049
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:09,720
Speaker 12: we're able to climb up literally.

1050
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:10,799
Speaker 7: Up on top of the moon.

1051
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 17: Yeah, because the snow is so good.

1052
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 7: And we could.

1053
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 12: We literally climbed on top of it.

1054
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 7: We got up there, we.

1055
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 1: Got Did you get some pictures done? I hope you did.

1056
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 12: Oh no, we did, because back then we didn't have cameras,

1057
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 12: it was, you know. But anyway, so we we do

1058
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 12: all that. We some of the guys broke some the

1059
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:36,840
Speaker 12: parking lot signs to keep my guests for souvenirs. And anyway,

1060
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 12: so we after being on top of the moon, right,

1061
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:43,840
Speaker 12: we we leave a walk of Canetta and we're headed

1062
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 12: just outside the town.

1063
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:46,439
Speaker 7: And we get pulled over.

1064
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 12: Oh no, and we get lit up. Yeah, and so

1065
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 12: they they tell us the drive back to it. You know, hey,

1066
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:54,839
Speaker 12: do you have anything in your car? And I'm like, no,

1067
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:55,839
Speaker 12: this is my brother's car.

1068
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 7: I don't have anything in my car.

1069
00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:59,760
Speaker 12: And of course they opened the trunk. We got parks

1070
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:03,319
Speaker 12: onned eng beer, you know, the bottles, and and so

1071
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 12: they they ain't take us back to the wafflecon out

1072
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:06,240
Speaker 12: of jail.

1073
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 7: Oh yeah.

1074
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 12: And and you got to remember this seventy seven, seventy

1075
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,359
Speaker 12: eight r and uh they allowed me to drive back

1076
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:17,359
Speaker 12: to the jail by the way, yeh know.

1077
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:21,840
Speaker 1: What that was back in the day, they h and uh.

1078
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 12: So you know, they talked to we told them what

1079
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 12: we did, and they called my dad and my buddy's

1080
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:33,839
Speaker 12: uh dad who was driving the other car, and nobody else.

1081
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 12: And my friends never told their dads. Most of their

1082
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:38,280
Speaker 12: parents never knew that the whole thing happened.

1083
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 7: But my parents came.

1084
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 12: Of course, my dad wasn't happy at three in the morning, right,

1085
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 12: and uh so he comes over.

1086
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 17: They pick us up and they just release us out

1087
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:51,959
Speaker 17: and we go and everything was good.

1088
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 7: I tell you what, that was my moment of walking

1089
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 7: on the moon.

1090
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:57,840
Speaker 1: That is a great story and that might be the

1091
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 1: best one so far this morning. I appreciate you sharing

1092
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:06,439
Speaker 1: that with us. Don alrighty, okay, thanks walking on the moon.

1093
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:08,919
Speaker 1: I know right where he's talking about too. It's right

1094
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:12,319
Speaker 1: off of seventy five. You're going north up there. It's

1095
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 1: really pretty cool museum too. It's Neil Armstrong who apparently, Yeah,

1096
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 1: that's his birthplace, Wapa Canetta. He taught at UC for

1097
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 1: a while. Of course, that was after he left Masson

1098
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 1: after the moonwalk. All right, let's see who's up on

1099
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 1: the hit parade here. Oh gosh, I hope I'm pronouncing

1100
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 1: this right. Mayon. Did I get your name right? Oh?

1101
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 1: I'm sorry? Marian. Okay, okay, Marian, you're not coming through

1102
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 1: real good. Can you hang up and then call back.

1103
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 1: I promise we'll get you maybe if you move your

1104
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 1: location a little bit. Please do that because I do

1105
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 1: want to hear from you. Hey, let's talk to Fred.

1106
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 1: He is in Saint Peter. I'm jealous. How you doing, Fred?

1107
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:05,439
Speaker 13: I'm doing fine? And the weather's fine down here. Don't

1108
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 13: ask me. I don't want to talk about it. I'll

1109
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 13: just make everybody mad. But anyway, in seventy seven, I

1110
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 13: was driving a semi truck and I had a delivery

1111
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 13: in Indianapolis at J and L. Steele and.

1112
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 29: Overnight I slept there overnight, and.

1113
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 13: In the morning, you know, the storm would come in

1114
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 13: and messed everything up. And the guy had a four

1115
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 13: wheel drive pickup truck he took me to. I couldn't

1116
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 13: get up the ramp, so I walked back to the factory.

1117
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 13: This guy, he was taking all employees home, you know,

1118
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 13: in the snow, and he too, He took me to

1119
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 13: a greyhound bus station. They were bringing everybody in there

1120
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 13: that you know, was like a you know, well anyway,

1121
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 13: and then the greyhound.

1122
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 29: Bus took us to a high school. So I spent

1123
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 29: a couple of days in his high school. And one

1124
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 29: day somebody want to go get milk. So I rode

1125
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 29: with him to see how my truck was doing. Because

1126
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 29: I parked it under the overpass and it was still running,

1127
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 29: so I was able to get up and get going. Yeah,

1128
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 29: but that's something, you know, stuff like that you never forget.

1129
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 1: You don't you.

1130
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 13: You'll never forgive it.

1131
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 7: You don't it.

1132
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 1: And you know, young people that didn't go through it,

1133
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 1: they can't, they can't really get a feel for it.

1134
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 1: So I'm glad you had the story and you enjoy

1135
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 1: Saint Petersburg.

1136
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 13: Yeah, thanks, thank Carl.

1137
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 1: Okay, no problem, man, I tell you what, I know

1138
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 1: a lot of people that would like to be in

1139
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 1: Saint Petersburg about now. Hey, looks like Marion called back.

1140
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 1: Let's see if we have a little better luck here. Marian,

1141
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 1: are you there? Are you there? There? She goes, Marian, Yes, oh, okay, yeah,

1142
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 1: a little better. Let's give it a try at least

1143
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 1: what you got.

1144
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 17: Okay.

1145
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 33: I just wanted to mention in nineteen seventy seven and

1146
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:50,919
Speaker 33: a last they had on the front page of one

1147
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 33: of their newspapers. They had a picture of the Ohio

1148
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 33: River with the walking on it.

1149
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 1: Yep, you know what, I might have been one of those, Marian.

1150
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 1: A lot of people people did that. I don't have

1151
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 1: a note, and thank you for the call. I appreciate

1152
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 1: that you're kind of cutting out a little bit there,

1153
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 1: but it was a big deal back here. It really was.

1154
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:12,919
Speaker 1: It was fun to do something to tell your kids

1155
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 1: and your grandkids about. Hey, let's try let's see. How

1156
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 1: about Elizabeth. Let's try Elizabeth, Elizabeth. How you doing, hello, Elizabeth?

1157
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 26: Oh?

1158
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 34: Yes, I used to work in nursing and I worked

1159
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 34: it be says the Oak okay, which is closed now.

1160
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 34: And the night of the blizzard, I was working from

1161
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 34: three to eleven thirty, and somewhere around ten o'clock in

1162
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 34: the evening, the evening supervisor came to the floor.

1163
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:45,600
Speaker 19: I worked in the flat pool.

1164
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 34: So I was a different place every day. But anyway,

1165
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 34: the evening supervisor brought one of the doctors to the

1166
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 34: floor and said, we're putting doctor such and such up

1167
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 34: for the night because he has an early morning surgery.

1168
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:04,440
Speaker 34: And I thought, since when there's a doctor's sleep here

1169
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 34: if they have an early morning surgery. But anyway, they

1170
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 34: wanted me to find blankets for this doctor. And so

1171
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 34: I'm running around to all the linen carts trying to

1172
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 34: find some blankets. And while I'm doing that, I hear

1173
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 34: somebody mentioned the word blizzard. Well, I said, The light

1174
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 34: bulb went off. I said, what are you talking about? Oh,

1175
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:27,920
Speaker 34: didn't you know we're having a blizzard. Well, I've been

1176
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 34: there since two thirty o'clalk in the afternoon. So I

1177
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 34: didn't know, and so I thought, oh my gosh, and

1178
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 34: so I usually left. I was supposed to be off

1179
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 34: at eleven thirty, while I usually was there later, but

1180
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 34: I hurried up to finish to get out on time.

1181
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 34: And by the time I walked out of the hospital,

1182
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 34: it was a wet snow that was coming down, just

1183
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 34: really bad, and I had to walk across the street.

1184
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 34: My car was worked on the top deck of the

1185
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 34: parking garage across the street. Of course it was covered

1186
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 34: with snow, and I couldn't even get it closed off.

1187
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 34: And how I got home that night, I don't ever know.

1188
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 34: And when I had to drive, I think my house.

1189
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 34: I lived in Anderson Township. So I had to drive

1190
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 34: nineteen miles to get home, and I went through Hyde

1191
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:25,440
Speaker 34: Park and now look Out. I called that the scenic

1192
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 34: group when the roads were right to avoid the truckers

1193
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 34: and you know, all the speedsters. So anyway, when I

1194
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 34: drove into the subdivision, you could see somebody had gone

1195
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:39,920
Speaker 34: in before me, and you could see tarts.

1196
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 19: You know, where the tires.

1197
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 34: That was deep enough. And so the next morning I

1198
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 34: was the next day I was supposed to be back

1199
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:51,440
Speaker 34: at work at three o'clock, and I was determined I

1200
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 34: was going to go. And my husband worked for the government,

1201
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 34: and he said not even I could get to work today.

1202
01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:00,680
Speaker 34: And I've never missed the day of work in my life. Well,

1203
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 34: I called the hospital and they were sending security out

1204
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 34: to pick up people that lived within a certain range

1205
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 34: of the hospital, and I was too far out for

1206
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 34: them to come and pick me up. Eventually, I guess

1207
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 34: maybe the next day, I I think I rode in.

1208
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:22,720
Speaker 34: One of my kids worked over in the in that

1209
01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 34: area of town of the blueprint outfit, and my daughter

1210
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 34: went to UC so somehow I got a ride to

1211
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 34: the hospital. I ended up spending the weekend and started

1212
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 34: out and Dreyer Hall on a mattress on the floor

1213
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 34: and worked the next day and and spent the night there.

1214
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 34: So I could, you know, I can be there to work.

1215
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 34: So that was the experience of the blizzard year. But

1216
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 34: another year.

1217
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 1: I got gotta make it quick though, if you make

1218
01:03:57,600 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 1: if you can make.

1219
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:00,080
Speaker 17: It quick, Okay.

1220
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 14: I drove.

1221
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:03,440
Speaker 34: I used to drive in Columbia Parkway. I did not

1222
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 34: only have an a plan to get in to the hospital,

1223
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 34: so I drove in Columbia Parkway and the road was terrible.

1224
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 34: When I get to William Hird, tap the snowplow, it's

1225
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 34: cross park crossways across the hill, and I thought, well,

1226
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 34: why did this fool e this snowplow park like this?

1227
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 34: So I go around the snow snowplow and start up

1228
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:29,440
Speaker 34: the hill. Well I realized that he hadn't they hadn't

1229
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:32,840
Speaker 34: cleaned the hill, and uh so I had an old

1230
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:36,320
Speaker 34: monarch I think it was, and my car was fish

1231
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 34: tailing all the way up. And my husband had told

1232
01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:41,760
Speaker 34: me was when I first learned to drive, never quit

1233
01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:45,120
Speaker 34: accelerating on a hill or ice through your bed. So I, uh,

1234
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 34: I fish tailed all the way up the hill. Got

1235
01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 34: up to the red light with the steepest part of

1236
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:53,920
Speaker 34: the light, and there was somebody stop there and I thought,

1237
01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 34: I'm not stopping for anything. I'm going to go right

1238
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:59,600
Speaker 34: around him. Well, when I got close to him, here

1239
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:02,919
Speaker 34: comes a bus down the hill. I couldn't go around.

1240
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:04,440
Speaker 25: It, so then I was stuck.

1241
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 34: Well, I finally got going and I thought, I'm not

1242
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:11,640
Speaker 34: stopping for anything. So I had many experiences out on

1243
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:15,440
Speaker 34: the road and had weather. Like I said, I was

1244
01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 34: a trailblazer.

1245
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 25: You know, I get it in health.

1246
01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 1: Care, I get it. Elizabeth, thank you so much. I

1247
01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 1: want to thank you too for working in your profession

1248
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:27,120
Speaker 1: extremely important and it just shows I mean, you take

1249
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 1: it seriously and got you got into work. Thank you

1250
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 1: for that.

1251
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:34,080
Speaker 34: Okay, Well you for listening to me.

1252
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you. Yeah, I mean you know, I don't know,

1253
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:41,520
Speaker 1: I don't mean to to I don't know. Jump on.

1254
01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 1: I was going to use another word for the younger generations.

1255
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 1: But that's an example of the dedication to work and

1256
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 1: the work ethic.

1257
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 21: Uh.

1258
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 1: I don't know how old she was. I assume she's

1259
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 1: probably close to me, but I took it seriously. It's

1260
01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 1: like I said, when I was a UC cop I

1261
01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 1: lived Charles Square off of Queen City, and this was

1262
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:06,600
Speaker 1: seventy eight. I believe I walked to work. I couldn't drive,

1263
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:10,480
Speaker 1: so it wasn't really that bad though. Anyway, the point

1264
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:14,960
Speaker 1: is very dedicated person, dedicated to her craft, and we

1265
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:17,280
Speaker 1: need more people like that. Hey, we do have to

1266
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 1: take a break, and when we get back, we are

1267
01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:22,439
Speaker 1: going to talk to our friend Christopher Smithman. Then from

1268
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:25,919
Speaker 1: eleven thirty to noon, the close of the show, we're

1269
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:28,439
Speaker 1: going to keep talking weather. These stories are pretty good,

1270
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 1: I think, and we will begin with Christopher when we

1271
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:34,320
Speaker 1: get back Mike Gallen, seven hundred WLW.

1272
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:38,200
Speaker 30: Don't look now, but the sky is determined to dump

1273
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 30: snow on our streets and driveways.

1274
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:42,480
Speaker 7: When will it arrive?

1275
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:46,520
Speaker 30: Keep it here for the latest from your severe weather

1276
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 30: station seven hundred wl Jeouji.

1277
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:59,320
Speaker 1: There's radio seven hundred WLW Mike Allen, and Saturday midday

1278
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:04,080
Speaker 1: that's the hour of say hey, we are going to

1279
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:06,160
Speaker 1: get back to the phones in just a minute here

1280
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 1: to talk about your memories of the lizards of seventy

1281
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 1: eight and seventy seven. So if you're on hold, keep holding.

1282
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:17,800
Speaker 1: We will get to you. But before we do that,

1283
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:20,840
Speaker 1: want to talk to our good friend Christopher Smithman. Haven't

1284
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:23,120
Speaker 1: talked to him in a while. Christopher, how are you.

1285
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:27,439
Speaker 17: I'm doing okay man, I'm all ready for.

1286
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:29,919
Speaker 1: The snow and yeah, I'm hunking down.

1287
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:32,720
Speaker 17: I have to tell you I pray for people who

1288
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 17: you know, follow really you know, all the emergency levels

1289
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:40,680
Speaker 17: like stay off the roads tomorrow, you know, stay bunker down,

1290
01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:45,120
Speaker 17: Mike Allen, be safe, be smart, talking Sunday Monday, you know.

1291
01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:48,480
Speaker 17: So you know, emergency crews can get in and do

1292
01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:51,440
Speaker 17: what they need to do. You know, I think about

1293
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:54,919
Speaker 17: and I'm being serious, middle aged men like myself got

1294
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:56,800
Speaker 17: to be real careful out there shoveling snow.

1295
01:07:57,040 --> 01:07:57,240
Speaker 1: Yep.

1296
01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:00,919
Speaker 17: Have somebody young out there and your family, somebody. You'll

1297
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:05,840
Speaker 17: pay somebody fifty twenty whatever to shovel your driveway. Just

1298
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:10,040
Speaker 17: be careful because you know, our emergency service personnel they

1299
01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:12,200
Speaker 17: need to be able to get to you. Yeah, And

1300
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:15,600
Speaker 17: so anyway, I'm praying for those who don't have shelter.

1301
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:18,639
Speaker 17: You know, it's gonna be tough to them. I'm glad

1302
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:21,240
Speaker 17: to hear the city opening up those shelters for people.

1303
01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:24,439
Speaker 17: But we have to take what's about to happen starting today,

1304
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:28,360
Speaker 17: because it's not tomorrow. It starts today and it will

1305
01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:29,839
Speaker 17: go all the way through to Monday.

1306
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:32,840
Speaker 1: You're absolutely right about that. And I thought about this too.

1307
01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 1: I mean, this will be a good test too of

1308
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:38,920
Speaker 1: the city's crews getting out there. They've been taking some

1309
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:42,639
Speaker 1: heat the last couple of years for their response, and boy,

1310
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 1: this is a big one. So good luck to all

1311
01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:47,880
Speaker 1: of them, and thanks in advance to them.

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Speaker 17: I agree, I agree with you. Well, you know, Mike Allen,

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01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:58,160
Speaker 17: this has been a tough week for me watching what

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Speaker 17: happened in the church this, you know, a week ago Sunday,

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Speaker 17: and uh, you know, I'm a I'm a big believer,

1316
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:11,759
Speaker 17: strong faith. You know, church is a safe zone, always

1317
01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:17,680
Speaker 17: has been, you know, uh, for wife, kids, grandparents. You know,

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01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:23,479
Speaker 17: I can't imagine someone bursting into my church, uh, screaming

1319
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:31,479
Speaker 17: at my pastor screaming at parishioners, streaming at children. It

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Speaker 17: was really a new low, Mike Allen, to watch that

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01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 17: and then to watch somebody, you know who used to

1322
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:45,840
Speaker 17: be on CNN, Don Lemon, really really underscoring that this

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01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:49,639
Speaker 17: was okay, and the risk was that that that people

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01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:52,680
Speaker 17: would do this in other cities and other churches. And

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01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 17: when you have people and you were in law enforcement

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01:09:56,360 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 17: as an officer, as as a prosecutor, like people are

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01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:05,120
Speaker 17: shooting up churches or shooting through windows, they're shooting, they're

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01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:07,439
Speaker 17: going in and shooting people while they're praying. Whether it's

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01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:12,400
Speaker 17: a moth a synagogue, whether it's a Catholic service, I'm Catholic,

1330
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:16,720
Speaker 17: whether it's a Baptist service. We all know now the

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01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:21,599
Speaker 17: virginity of our safe zones, all of that is no more, yep.

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01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:25,240
Speaker 17: And so that was a very serious moment where somebody

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01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:28,479
Speaker 17: in that church could have said, Hey, I don't know

1334
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:30,760
Speaker 17: quite what's going on here. I just know that there

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01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:33,960
Speaker 17: was another church in my community where people came in

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01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 17: and they opened fire. I'm going to open fire back

1337
01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:40,479
Speaker 17: on them before they opened fire on me. I'm just

1338
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:43,320
Speaker 17: sharing with you. Very dangerous and I'm really happy that

1339
01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:46,600
Speaker 17: the federal government started arresting people yesterday.

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01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 1: You know what. And boy, they were on it like

1341
01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:51,439
Speaker 1: white on rice. One thing I'm not happy about, I

1342
01:10:51,479 --> 01:10:55,320
Speaker 1: agree with everything you said, is mister Lemon, don Lemon

1343
01:10:56,400 --> 01:10:58,760
Speaker 1: getting away with it. I guess what happened was the

1344
01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:04,560
Speaker 1: FB or DJ whatever went to file a criminal complaint,

1345
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:07,639
Speaker 1: which is kind of a precursor for an indictment, and

1346
01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 1: the judge, actually it was a magister judge said no,

1347
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:14,440
Speaker 1: I'm not going to permit you to do that. That's BS.

1348
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 1: And what he's hanging his hat on, Christopher, is that, well,

1349
01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:20,360
Speaker 1: I'm a journalist. I was there. I think his exact

1350
01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:23,600
Speaker 1: words were to do some journalism, which I think is

1351
01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 1: just poppycock. But overall, you're right. I mean they were

1352
01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:30,120
Speaker 1: on that thing quickly, and you know, I thought I

1353
01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:32,960
Speaker 1: read somewhere there were like, I don't know, at least

1354
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:36,439
Speaker 1: five or six of them, thirty six parishioners in the church.

1355
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:40,200
Speaker 1: I hope they get them all because I watched that thing,

1356
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:42,719
Speaker 1: and and you and I have seen just about everything

1357
01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:46,719
Speaker 1: in our public lives. But I couldn't believe that these people.

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01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:49,240
Speaker 1: And did you see there was a little boy, I

1359
01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:51,599
Speaker 1: don't know, you look like he's five or six years old.

1360
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:55,640
Speaker 1: He was kind of cowering in his mother's arms. You

1361
01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:58,280
Speaker 1: can't do that. You can't do it. And they're all

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01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:00,439
Speaker 1: going to hang their hat on first to mem Well,

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01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:04,360
Speaker 1: that's fine. I mean First Amendment protects speech, and what

1364
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:06,719
Speaker 1: saw in that church was a lot more than speech.

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Speaker 17: It's absolutely right. You and I know that churches are

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01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:16,879
Speaker 17: special places and protected by law, and you know churches.

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01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:21,439
Speaker 17: You know, I'm African American. My grandfather was a Baptist

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01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:25,320
Speaker 17: minister in Birmingham, Alabama. My father was an only child

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01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:29,000
Speaker 17: and his father was a Baptist minister and his church

1370
01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:33,920
Speaker 17: was burned in Birmingham, Alabama during the Civil Rights movement.

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Speaker 17: My point to view is that churches are that place

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Speaker 17: that we've got to protect.

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Speaker 7: And I'm really.

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01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:42,759
Speaker 17: Glad to see the federal government coming in and taking

1375
01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:46,280
Speaker 17: these terms of things serious. We've got to have faith zones.

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01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:49,720
Speaker 17: I think churches, we all unilaterally should be able to agree.

1377
01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:53,320
Speaker 17: Whether you're a Democrat or Republican or an independent, you

1378
01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:56,160
Speaker 17: know that this is a safe place and we should

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01:12:56,200 --> 01:13:00,320
Speaker 17: not have people going into those church services protesting during

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01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:01,040
Speaker 17: those services.

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01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:03,080
Speaker 7: Mike Allen, you can't have by it.

1382
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:05,880
Speaker 17: I'm glad to see that people are being arrested, and

1383
01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:08,640
Speaker 17: I think Don Lemon should be put in handcuffs, and

1384
01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:10,960
Speaker 17: I think his day is coming. I don't think it's ober.

1385
01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:13,920
Speaker 17: I know the magistrate made that decision, but I think

1386
01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:15,720
Speaker 17: the federal government is going to pursue him.

1387
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:16,160
Speaker 12: Yeah.

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01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 1: I just the nerve of that guy to say that

1389
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:21,479
Speaker 1: he has a quote. I've got it somewhere here. I

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01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:23,800
Speaker 1: don't know where it is. But this was like the

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01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:27,240
Speaker 1: next day, and it was something along the lines of, well,

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01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:30,760
Speaker 1: if these people want to call themselves Christians, maybe they

1393
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:34,800
Speaker 1: ought to start acting like that. You know, you should

1394
01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:37,080
Speaker 1: have been looking in the mirror when he said that.

1395
01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:41,080
Speaker 1: It's just you ask yourself, and I do this all

1396
01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:45,120
Speaker 1: the time, what is next? And you know, you shudder

1397
01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:47,840
Speaker 1: to think what is next after this. If a group

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01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:50,519
Speaker 1: of people can bust into a church on a Sunday

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01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:55,000
Speaker 1: and get the services stopped, we're in bad shape. And

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01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:58,000
Speaker 1: you're right. The DOJ is on it, and I hope

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01:13:58,040 --> 01:14:00,200
Speaker 1: there's some more arrests come out. Oh I found it here.

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01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:03,800
Speaker 1: It is Christopher. This is Don Lemon's quote the day

1403
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:10,760
Speaker 1: after this happened Monday. Okay, what my writing is not

1404
01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:12,519
Speaker 1: that good? Would have done?

1405
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:12,760
Speaker 17: Oh?

1406
01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:16,960
Speaker 1: Okay? What would they have done? If? Oh? Here it is.

1407
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:21,240
Speaker 1: If you are going to be a representation of God,

1408
01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:23,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna read that again. If you're going to be

1409
01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:29,799
Speaker 1: a representation of God, perhaps you should conduct yourselves as such.

1410
01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:34,480
Speaker 1: The nerve of that man to say that, it's incredible.

1411
01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 1: He's chastising the church.

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01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:43,799
Speaker 17: Members, chastising them, and they are going into their safe place.

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01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:44,160
Speaker 7: Yea.

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01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:48,360
Speaker 17: And he knew that they were staging, as we've seen

1415
01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:51,000
Speaker 17: prior to him entering the church.

1416
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:53,280
Speaker 7: Oh he knew, he knew.

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01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:56,720
Speaker 17: And again to all of your listening audience, all of

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01:14:56,800 --> 01:15:01,160
Speaker 17: us should be on social media denouncing that we should

1419
01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:05,320
Speaker 17: be demanding that everybody be involved be arrested. And I

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01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:10,120
Speaker 17: was disappointed because I am a supporter of the LGBTQ

1421
01:15:10,240 --> 01:15:14,160
Speaker 17: plus community. And I didn't understand him saying I'm African

1422
01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:16,960
Speaker 17: American and I'm gay, and this is why they're coming

1423
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:19,439
Speaker 17: after me. And so I'm going to say that again.

1424
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:23,320
Speaker 17: Don Lemon has said that he's African American and gay,

1425
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:26,960
Speaker 17: and that is what is making him the target. We've

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01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:29,800
Speaker 17: got to move away from the you know, he's deflecting.

1427
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:33,599
Speaker 17: He's now trying to use whatever in his mind is

1428
01:15:34,120 --> 01:15:37,760
Speaker 17: to try to have the federal government not come and

1429
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:41,320
Speaker 17: hold him accountable as they're holding other people accountable. And

1430
01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:44,760
Speaker 17: it's incredibly dangerous. It has nothing to do with Don

1431
01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:47,960
Speaker 17: Lemon's sexuality, and it has nothing to do with his

1432
01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:50,200
Speaker 17: ethnicity period, yep.

1433
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:52,720
Speaker 1: And he just wants to jump on the narrative that

1434
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:56,080
Speaker 1: is the opposite of that that many people believe. And

1435
01:15:56,120 --> 01:15:59,800
Speaker 1: it's sad, I hope, And you know, if I have

1436
01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:05,439
Speaker 1: a good understanding of the DOJ and Pam BONDI, I

1437
01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:08,799
Speaker 1: don't think he's out of jeopardy yet. They can always

1438
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:11,720
Speaker 1: try to file it again. And just galls me that

1439
01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:15,439
Speaker 1: that guy thinks he's above the law and above everything

1440
01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:19,200
Speaker 1: else too. But let me switch gears here. You unless you.

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01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:22,320
Speaker 7: Do anything more on that no, no, sir.

1442
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:26,200
Speaker 1: Okay, wanted to ask you to the city of Cincinnati.

1443
01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:31,640
Speaker 1: The mayor has proposed in income tax increase, and supposedly

1444
01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:35,920
Speaker 1: it's going to be dedicated to law enforcement, obviously meaning

1445
01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:40,040
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Police Department. Your thoughts on that, Christopher.

1446
01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:43,839
Speaker 17: Well, I don't think the mayor is being honest about

1447
01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:48,240
Speaker 17: the purpose of the increase, because if he was, he

1448
01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:51,400
Speaker 17: could put that Charter amendment on the ballot and say

1449
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:57,160
Speaker 17: this increment is one hundred for police. So he's verbally

1450
01:16:57,200 --> 01:16:59,639
Speaker 17: saying something, but as the money comes into the car

1451
01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:03,800
Speaker 17: for he's not suggesting by law that these dollars are segregated.

1452
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:07,600
Speaker 17: So this is personality driven, which is always dangerous. My

1453
01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:11,519
Speaker 17: point is there are some municipalities that have said I'd

1454
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 17: like to increase our taxes and this portion must be

1455
01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:18,840
Speaker 17: used for police, or this portion of your tax must

1456
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:21,719
Speaker 17: be used for fire. That is not what he's saying.

1457
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:26,040
Speaker 17: Here's what's really happening. You know, COVID dollars came in

1458
01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:29,920
Speaker 17: Mike Allen, and cities have been using that to balance

1459
01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:34,760
Speaker 17: the budget. Pad the budget and those dollars are now gone.

1460
01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:38,400
Speaker 17: A city is facing a thirty two million dollar deficit.

1461
01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:41,600
Speaker 17: And our city council and our mayor. They have a

1462
01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:46,200
Speaker 17: spending problem. So they're spending more money than they are collecting,

1463
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:50,559
Speaker 17: just like a basic household not making enough money, but

1464
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:53,360
Speaker 17: still on their way taking a trip to let's say

1465
01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:56,800
Speaker 17: Brazil or going someplace like you know, I'm going to

1466
01:17:56,840 --> 01:17:59,240
Speaker 17: take a trip to Europe. You don't have the money

1467
01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:01,200
Speaker 17: to do it, but you're going to charge it on

1468
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:04,720
Speaker 17: your credit card. And right now the city has been

1469
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:08,840
Speaker 17: maxing out its credit card, its debts. They've been trying

1470
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:12,479
Speaker 17: to operate the streetcar by telling us that it's free.

1471
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:16,200
Speaker 17: It's never free. There's nothing free in America. It just

1472
01:18:16,280 --> 01:18:19,360
Speaker 17: means that we're paying for it. So I estimate that

1473
01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:22,760
Speaker 17: that's at five or six million dollars a year that

1474
01:18:22,840 --> 01:18:26,040
Speaker 17: we are paying right out of our operating budget to

1475
01:18:26,120 --> 01:18:29,200
Speaker 17: support the streetcar. Here's what I want to say to it.

1476
01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:34,080
Speaker 17: If I saw the city make big decisions that showed

1477
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:37,880
Speaker 17: that they were willing to pull back on things that

1478
01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:40,679
Speaker 17: are important to them, like operating the streetcar, like we're

1479
01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:43,479
Speaker 17: going to shut it down, We're gonna we're gonna take

1480
01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:45,639
Speaker 17: the five or six million dollars. We know the federal

1481
01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:48,160
Speaker 17: government might try to come and do a callback after

1482
01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:51,160
Speaker 17: ten years. Bottom line though, is we need to do

1483
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:54,519
Speaker 17: this so that we show we're willing to sacrifice prior

1484
01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:57,559
Speaker 17: to us going to the taxpayer. Why are we giving

1485
01:18:57,640 --> 01:19:01,360
Speaker 17: Irish roly six hundred and fifty thousand dollars? Why are

1486
01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:04,920
Speaker 17: we doing settlements at a point one million? Twelve in

1487
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:07,240
Speaker 17: the box. I want a jury trial. I want you

1488
01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:10,080
Speaker 17: to find twelve jurors that would say I'm going to

1489
01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:13,920
Speaker 17: give these people eight point one million dollars? Are we're

1490
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:16,439
Speaker 17: going to give the other citizen one point four million?

1491
01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:19,720
Speaker 17: I want twelve in the box. They're down in those

1492
01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:23,000
Speaker 17: rooms and they're negotiating these things, and that is what

1493
01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:27,599
Speaker 17: infuriates me, meaning they don't have their act together and

1494
01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:29,479
Speaker 17: now they're coming to us to bail them out.

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01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:33,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's typically the case. It seems like, no,

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01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:36,519
Speaker 1: you got to help me on this now. If council

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01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:40,840
Speaker 1: votes it in, that doesn't mean it automatically goes to

1498
01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:44,000
Speaker 1: the voters, does it. Doesn't Council have to say, hey,

1499
01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:47,400
Speaker 1: we're going to let the voters decide this. What's the

1500
01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:50,400
Speaker 1: situation with that one hundred percent?

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01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:55,840
Speaker 17: They can raise those taxes without the public having a

1502
01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:59,320
Speaker 17: public vote on it, and they can pass it to

1503
01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:04,360
Speaker 17: and pass it with what's called an emergency, which makes

1504
01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:09,640
Speaker 17: it impossible for the issue to be petitioned. So is

1505
01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:14,320
Speaker 17: to answer your question directly in the most transparent way.

1506
01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:16,640
Speaker 17: If the nine members of council said, we're going to

1507
01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:19,599
Speaker 17: raise taxes, but we're placing this issue on the ballot

1508
01:20:20,160 --> 01:20:22,599
Speaker 17: to give the public the ability to say yes and no.

1509
01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:25,800
Speaker 17: And what greater time would be midterm elections where you're

1510
01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:29,599
Speaker 17: going to have high voter turnout, great interests. You know,

1511
01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:32,280
Speaker 17: it's not going to be this twenty percent eighty percent

1512
01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:34,519
Speaker 17: staying home, you know, so you're gonna get a lot

1513
01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:37,120
Speaker 17: of people showing up to vote. Allow the public to

1514
01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:40,240
Speaker 17: say whether we believe we should our taxes should be

1515
01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:42,479
Speaker 17: going higher. You know the other side of this is

1516
01:20:42,520 --> 01:20:45,200
Speaker 17: our property taxes are going up thirty percent, you know,

1517
01:20:45,360 --> 01:20:48,880
Speaker 17: being rolled back. You know, you got our income tax

1518
01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:54,040
Speaker 17: going up. You know, the widow, the widower, the retirees,

1519
01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:57,880
Speaker 17: you know who are living on Social Security. The Americans

1520
01:20:57,880 --> 01:21:01,160
Speaker 17: who bought their home, they were respond they paid it off,

1521
01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:04,760
Speaker 17: they paid their American made car off, fitting out there.

1522
01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:07,640
Speaker 17: They're being priced out of their homes now where you

1523
01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:10,679
Speaker 17: know their property taxes. Let's say with five thousand a year,

1524
01:21:11,240 --> 01:21:14,679
Speaker 17: six thousand a year are now a ten thousand a year, right,

1525
01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:17,920
Speaker 17: and they're making decisions between their fixed income of their

1526
01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:22,760
Speaker 17: of their medication of their hospitals, or or their copaids

1527
01:21:22,760 --> 01:21:26,400
Speaker 17: on their visit or food or travel or all those things.

1528
01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:29,960
Speaker 17: That's what's getting so frustrating. People, whether they live in

1529
01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:32,800
Speaker 17: bond Hill or whether they live over on the North Side,

1530
01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:34,599
Speaker 17: are being priced out of their houses.

1531
01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:37,880
Speaker 1: That's what it seems like. And it'll be interesting to see.

1532
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:40,719
Speaker 1: I mean, what do you think it makes the ballot?

1533
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:43,799
Speaker 1: Do you think it'll pass. I know that's a tough question.

1534
01:21:44,479 --> 01:21:46,640
Speaker 17: No, I think it would be rejected. I think it

1535
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:50,320
Speaker 17: would be unanimously No. You know, I think it would

1536
01:21:50,360 --> 01:21:54,400
Speaker 17: go down something like sixty forty because people are having

1537
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:58,280
Speaker 17: a tough time up boarding the basics right now, right

1538
01:21:58,400 --> 01:22:00,400
Speaker 17: and so with the message back to say the hall

1539
01:22:00,439 --> 01:22:04,200
Speaker 17: would be operate within your budget, that would be I

1540
01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:07,000
Speaker 17: think they would reject it. Not saying hey, I don't

1541
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:10,200
Speaker 17: think we necessarily need it. They would say, listen, you

1542
01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:13,960
Speaker 17: all have some expenses down there. Show us that you're

1543
01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:16,600
Speaker 17: willing to pull in the rain financially.

1544
01:22:17,320 --> 01:22:18,160
Speaker 7: In a household.

1545
01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:20,360
Speaker 17: Somebody listening to me right now, you say, man, I'm

1546
01:22:20,360 --> 01:22:23,880
Speaker 17: having financial problems, but you still have Spectrum. You're still

1547
01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:26,120
Speaker 17: paying two hundred dollars a month or cable, and on

1548
01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:30,160
Speaker 17: top of that, you've got Netflix, You've got Disney, right,

1549
01:22:30,280 --> 01:22:33,639
Speaker 17: you've got Paramount. You know, you're not making the serious

1550
01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:36,519
Speaker 17: decisions in your own house. You're still charging things on

1551
01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:39,040
Speaker 17: your credit card. You're not going to your kids and

1552
01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:42,200
Speaker 17: saying listen, we can't have that big Christmas right, You're

1553
01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:45,640
Speaker 17: still doing the same stuff. It's hard for us to

1554
01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:48,320
Speaker 17: watch the city spend the kind of money they're spending,

1555
01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:51,040
Speaker 17: Mike Allen and then still come to us and say

1556
01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:53,760
Speaker 17: they need more money, and then try to trick us

1557
01:22:54,120 --> 01:22:57,200
Speaker 17: into a conversation that it's about police, when at the

1558
01:22:57,280 --> 01:23:00,000
Speaker 17: same time you can see their real policy is defunt

1559
01:23:00,200 --> 01:23:03,960
Speaker 17: the police, reimagine the police hire you know people like

1560
01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:07,280
Speaker 17: Irish Rowlie who clearly don't like the police. And so

1561
01:23:07,479 --> 01:23:10,240
Speaker 17: that's the reality of it. And now you're saying, hey, man,

1562
01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:12,479
Speaker 17: I need to I need to raise taxes so we

1563
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:16,000
Speaker 17: can we can provide more support for police. Those two

1564
01:23:16,120 --> 01:23:18,439
Speaker 17: things don't add up. They're really trying to get more

1565
01:23:18,520 --> 01:23:21,400
Speaker 17: money here's the scary part. So they can build the

1566
01:23:21,439 --> 01:23:25,679
Speaker 17: second leg of that streetcar, not for capital dollars, because

1567
01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:29,519
Speaker 17: they can use the railroad money for infrastructure around the

1568
01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:32,880
Speaker 17: street car, but they need the money to operate the

1569
01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:35,640
Speaker 17: street car once they build it. And so that's what

1570
01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:39,240
Speaker 17: scares me about this crew, the nine, and the mayor

1571
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:41,640
Speaker 17: is and the city manager. And then when you have

1572
01:23:41,760 --> 01:23:46,240
Speaker 17: a mayor whose car was reposed once or twice, it says, man,

1573
01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:49,519
Speaker 17: you're not even able to manage your own household, let

1574
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:51,639
Speaker 17: alone the billion dollar budget for the city.

1575
01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:54,640
Speaker 1: No, I hear you. Hey, I appreciate your input, and

1576
01:23:54,920 --> 01:23:57,719
Speaker 1: we'll have to see what happens on that. But stay

1577
01:23:57,760 --> 01:24:01,240
Speaker 1: safe and just hunker down.

1578
01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:03,400
Speaker 17: Mike Twease, stay safe out here. Thank you for allowing

1579
01:24:03,400 --> 01:24:05,400
Speaker 17: me to weigh in on that once one more time,

1580
01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:08,520
Speaker 17: and just say, snow, what's going to start coming this afternoon?

1581
01:24:08,640 --> 01:24:11,280
Speaker 17: Slightly from what I'm reading. I want to thank all

1582
01:24:11,320 --> 01:24:13,880
Speaker 17: our weather people. They doing a great job in our

1583
01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:17,160
Speaker 17: region keeping us, you know, informed, And I would say,

1584
01:24:17,479 --> 01:24:20,479
Speaker 17: make sure you're staying home, keep your cars, you know,

1585
01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:22,919
Speaker 17: in your driveway. If you don't have to go anywhere,

1586
01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:24,639
Speaker 17: don't go anywhere.

1587
01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:27,280
Speaker 1: There you go Mike Allan, good advice. Thank you, Christopher,

1588
01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:31,000
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Take care brother, Okay, you too, Yeah, you

1589
01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:34,599
Speaker 1: know what I mean. The city they'll say, like Christopher said,

1590
01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:38,960
Speaker 1: this will be dedicated to fire and police. But I've

1591
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:42,000
Speaker 1: seen that before. That's a shell game too, So I'm

1592
01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:44,240
Speaker 1: glad he's on top of it, and we'll stay on

1593
01:24:44,280 --> 01:24:46,080
Speaker 1: top of it too. Hey, we got to take a

1594
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:48,160
Speaker 1: break for the news, but when we get back, we're

1595
01:24:48,160 --> 01:24:50,840
Speaker 1: going to finish up with the calls. Mike Allen, seven

1596
01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:54,080
Speaker 1: hundred WLW. We're finally back after the convention Center.

1597
01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:57,559
Speaker 22: It's massive renovation, the sixty seventh Anuel Cincinnati Travels, Sports

1598
01:24:57,600 --> 01:24:57,920
Speaker 22: and Boats.

1599
01:24:57,960 --> 01:25:12,200
Speaker 1: You'll right too. It's kind of ominous music there. Maybe

1600
01:25:12,200 --> 01:25:15,400
Speaker 1: they're thinking about what's coming here. I don't know. Hey,

1601
01:25:15,400 --> 01:25:19,080
Speaker 1: we're back, Mike Allen, Saturday, midday, closing half hour. We

1602
01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:21,640
Speaker 1: are going to get to the phones here. I have

1603
01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:22,920
Speaker 1: one more short clip.

1604
01:25:23,240 --> 01:25:23,320
Speaker 12: Uh.

1605
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:38,879
Speaker 1: This this one is I'm sorry, Uh, I'm oh thirty okay, okay, okay.

1606
01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:42,439
Speaker 1: We are going to talk to Big Al, We're going

1607
01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:44,639
Speaker 1: to talk to Tim, We're going to talk to Kurt

1608
01:25:45,160 --> 01:25:48,960
Speaker 1: uh and anyone else that wants to call. Five one, three, seven,

1609
01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:52,679
Speaker 1: four nine, seven thousand, eight hundred the big one again.

1610
01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:55,160
Speaker 1: Like I said, we've been all morning talking about seventy

1611
01:25:55,240 --> 01:25:58,840
Speaker 1: seven and seventy eight. Uh, kind of a big year.

1612
01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:03,120
Speaker 1: So it is a big deal, and I guess we

1613
01:26:03,240 --> 01:26:07,080
Speaker 1: shall see what happens. Liam. If you could play that

1614
01:26:07,240 --> 01:26:08,080
Speaker 1: last clip that.

1615
01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:08,360
Speaker 7: We have.

1616
01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:14,400
Speaker 35: Drice State thirty five years ago, you no doubt remember

1617
01:26:14,520 --> 01:26:18,799
Speaker 35: where you were because you likely couldn't go anywhere starting

1618
01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:21,280
Speaker 35: on this night and running into tomorrow.

1619
01:26:21,560 --> 01:26:23,160
Speaker 1: It was the Blizzard of seventy eight.

1620
01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:27,120
Speaker 35: The storm itself down seven inches of snow, but sixty

1621
01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:28,120
Speaker 35: mile an hour winds.

1622
01:26:28,439 --> 01:26:30,759
Speaker 1: The drifts were afoot or more.

1623
01:26:31,400 --> 01:26:33,800
Speaker 35: Some roads had been plowed so many times because of

1624
01:26:33,840 --> 01:26:36,720
Speaker 35: the drifting that the build up on either side made

1625
01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:40,320
Speaker 35: them look more like tunnels. In some areas that digging

1626
01:26:40,360 --> 01:26:45,040
Speaker 35: out could take nearly a week. I recall speaking to

1627
01:26:45,080 --> 01:26:49,040
Speaker 35: some people who remember walking across the frozen Ohio River.

1628
01:26:49,280 --> 01:26:50,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, between the two bad.

1629
01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:53,040
Speaker 4: That's kind of the amazing part of all of that

1630
01:26:53,080 --> 01:26:54,120
Speaker 4: in seventy eight, isn't it.

1631
01:26:54,320 --> 01:26:54,519
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1632
01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:56,719
Speaker 35: And there was also a guy told me he remembers

1633
01:26:56,840 --> 01:26:59,639
Speaker 35: the quote unquote green men. They were the National Guard

1634
01:26:59,720 --> 01:27:02,040
Speaker 35: troop who brought groceries brought everybody.

1635
01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:02,960
Speaker 7: Everybody was stuck in.

1636
01:27:03,120 --> 01:27:04,880
Speaker 4: You know, we were talking a little bit earlier, Doug

1637
01:27:04,920 --> 01:27:06,599
Speaker 4: and myself, the producer of the show. We were talking

1638
01:27:06,600 --> 01:27:09,599
Speaker 4: about throwing open the garage door and because of the drifts,

1639
01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:12,040
Speaker 4: you couldn't get out of your garage. You know, that

1640
01:27:12,120 --> 01:27:13,599
Speaker 4: was the amazing thing of that story.

1641
01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:16,960
Speaker 35: Well, those were sometimes sometimes we're talking about a little

1642
01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:17,479
Speaker 35: warm up.

1643
01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:21,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, finally we're back there you go. That was nineteen

1644
01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:24,679
Speaker 1: seventy nine. Sorry about the confusion there at the beginning.

1645
01:27:24,720 --> 01:27:28,240
Speaker 1: We had to get that clip ready. So again, it

1646
01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:31,000
Speaker 1: was a big deal back then today I think, and

1647
01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:33,360
Speaker 1: this week is going to be a big deal as well. Hey,

1648
01:27:33,439 --> 01:27:36,400
Speaker 1: let's go back to the phones with your memories of

1649
01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:40,639
Speaker 1: the blizzards of seventy eight and seventy seven. Let's start

1650
01:27:40,640 --> 01:27:44,600
Speaker 1: with big Al, Hey, big Al, how you doing. Wonderful?

1651
01:27:44,640 --> 01:27:48,320
Speaker 11: Wonderful, Michael, appreciate you, love your show listen every Saturday morning.

1652
01:27:48,439 --> 01:27:50,000
Speaker 1: Thank you very much, thank you.

1653
01:27:50,160 --> 01:27:54,320
Speaker 11: Hey, yeah, elder sixty five, go elder.

1654
01:27:54,120 --> 01:27:57,160
Speaker 1: Right there you go, buddy, that would have been a

1655
01:27:57,160 --> 01:27:58,599
Speaker 1: great time to be going to elder.

1656
01:28:00,320 --> 01:28:05,280
Speaker 11: Yes, sir, it was blizzard of seventy seven. I was

1657
01:28:05,320 --> 01:28:09,439
Speaker 11: working for Klossman bakery driving a bread truck, and we

1658
01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:12,839
Speaker 11: had about thirty thirty five routes going out of Saint Bernard.

1659
01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:17,360
Speaker 1: Only five or six of us went out. Guys doing hospitals. Well,

1660
01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:19,400
Speaker 1: I had the airport on Okay.

1661
01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:23,880
Speaker 11: Spoon County Airport, and I pulled out. Now, one thing

1662
01:28:24,240 --> 01:28:26,400
Speaker 11: we never talked too much about when you're talking about

1663
01:28:26,439 --> 01:28:30,160
Speaker 11: this was the ice. When I picked that thing out,

1664
01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:33,360
Speaker 11: I had a full load of it. Is on a Friday, Okay,

1665
01:28:33,680 --> 01:28:35,479
Speaker 11: so you can imagine I had a full load. We

1666
01:28:35,479 --> 01:28:39,360
Speaker 11: did all the McDonald's, all the Burger Kings, and US

1667
01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:41,240
Speaker 11: and Ruble were the only two that did most of

1668
01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:46,439
Speaker 11: the restaurants back then. And I got out on seventy five. Well,

1669
01:28:46,520 --> 01:28:49,560
Speaker 11: I had in southbound seventy five out of Saint Bernard.

1670
01:28:50,080 --> 01:28:51,120
Speaker 7: Was one lane.

1671
01:28:53,080 --> 01:28:56,680
Speaker 11: With four inches of ice under you, snow on the

1672
01:28:56,680 --> 01:29:00,160
Speaker 11: other side, and there was hardly no traffic at all.

1673
01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:04,760
Speaker 1: Not nobody was out. And this was about, uh it

1674
01:29:04,840 --> 01:29:05,400
Speaker 1: was daylight.

1675
01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:08,600
Speaker 11: It was about six o'clock in the morning. And I

1676
01:29:08,640 --> 01:29:12,639
Speaker 11: got down into Kentucky ran earl Anger, and I don't

1677
01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:14,719
Speaker 11: know if you're familiar with earl Anger, but on Dixie

1678
01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:17,519
Speaker 11: Highway there there's a railroad trestle. It goes over Dixie

1679
01:29:17,600 --> 01:29:25,040
Speaker 11: Highway just just north of Commonwealth Avenue there and yeah,

1680
01:29:25,080 --> 01:29:27,679
Speaker 11: and you know how that's it's a strange trestle because

1681
01:29:27,720 --> 01:29:29,880
Speaker 11: you dip down, you go down way down in and

1682
01:29:29,880 --> 01:29:32,640
Speaker 11: then you come back up to the other side. And

1683
01:29:33,479 --> 01:29:36,800
Speaker 11: I went past McDonald and nobody's there and everything, and

1684
01:29:36,840 --> 01:29:39,599
Speaker 11: I got all these buns on this truck. I get

1685
01:29:39,600 --> 01:29:43,519
Speaker 11: to the top of that Hiller's a mailman sitting there.

1686
01:29:44,120 --> 01:29:46,280
Speaker 11: I pulled up next to him and he says, why

1687
01:29:46,280 --> 01:29:48,160
Speaker 11: am I window down? He says, you're going to try

1688
01:29:48,200 --> 01:29:50,000
Speaker 11: to go down there and get up that other side.

1689
01:29:50,400 --> 01:29:52,240
Speaker 25: I said, I said, I'll.

1690
01:29:52,080 --> 01:29:55,800
Speaker 11: Tell you what, pal the rain and snow the bread

1691
01:29:55,880 --> 01:29:56,360
Speaker 11: must go.

1692
01:29:56,920 --> 01:29:58,000
Speaker 1: And at.

1693
01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:03,120
Speaker 11: Came up the other side and I went down common

1694
01:30:03,160 --> 01:30:06,080
Speaker 11: Wealth the Avenue, hit one hotel, that's all it was open.

1695
01:30:06,200 --> 01:30:09,120
Speaker 11: I got out of the airport and there were three

1696
01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:11,760
Speaker 11: terminals back then in seventy seven at the airport, A

1697
01:30:11,880 --> 01:30:14,400
Speaker 11: B and C right, so I hit each terminal. You

1698
01:30:14,479 --> 01:30:16,679
Speaker 11: drove on the tarmac by the way with the truck,

1699
01:30:16,760 --> 01:30:20,559
Speaker 11: I believe it or not. Back then pulled the truck

1700
01:30:20,600 --> 01:30:23,080
Speaker 11: down and I went up and did a B and

1701
01:30:23,160 --> 01:30:26,000
Speaker 11: C and I get down to Terminal A had a

1702
01:30:26,080 --> 01:30:30,360
Speaker 11: Terminal A they made all the sandwiches for Delta called

1703
01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:34,400
Speaker 11: sky Chef. Sky Chef was right, I remember, yeah, the

1704
01:30:34,479 --> 01:30:36,559
Speaker 11: then sky chef was And I pulled my truck up,

1705
01:30:36,600 --> 01:30:38,439
Speaker 11: and I backed the truck up, and I walked in.

1706
01:30:39,120 --> 01:30:41,080
Speaker 11: Here the guy that runs the airport, and I can't

1707
01:30:41,080 --> 01:30:43,840
Speaker 11: remember his name, but back then I knew him pretty well.

1708
01:30:44,479 --> 01:30:46,479
Speaker 11: He said, how much you got on that truck? I said, well,

1709
01:30:46,479 --> 01:30:48,040
Speaker 11: I got a full truck. I said, a lot of

1710
01:30:48,080 --> 01:30:50,120
Speaker 11: the stuff's cloth. He said, just empty the whole damn

1711
01:30:50,120 --> 01:30:50,880
Speaker 11: truck right here.

1712
01:30:52,000 --> 01:30:54,599
Speaker 1: There you go. Man, You did what you needed to do.

1713
01:30:55,760 --> 01:30:58,080
Speaker 11: Yeah, he said, I got I got something like twelve

1714
01:30:58,160 --> 01:31:02,240
Speaker 11: hundred people stranded here. He says, just just empty it out.

1715
01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:04,439
Speaker 1: Were your boss was happy with that. They should have

1716
01:31:04,520 --> 01:31:05,600
Speaker 1: been the.

1717
01:31:07,080 --> 01:31:09,320
Speaker 11: Im The only guy came back with nothing on the truck,

1718
01:31:09,320 --> 01:31:10,439
Speaker 11: and I said, what the hell did you do?

1719
01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:10,760
Speaker 12: It? All?

1720
01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:16,360
Speaker 1: There you go? There you go, But noo.

1721
01:31:15,800 --> 01:31:17,080
Speaker 11: I'll never forget it, but.

1722
01:31:19,160 --> 01:31:19,760
Speaker 17: Appreciate you.

1723
01:31:20,240 --> 01:31:22,439
Speaker 1: Let me tell the story. It was funny, all right,

1724
01:31:22,680 --> 01:31:23,759
Speaker 1: thanks big al.

1725
01:31:24,360 --> 01:31:25,479
Speaker 7: Yes, sir, I have a good one.

1726
01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:28,280
Speaker 1: You too, you too, thank you? Yeah, his bosses got

1727
01:31:28,280 --> 01:31:30,759
Speaker 1: to take care. Nelly came back with an empty truck,

1728
01:31:30,960 --> 01:31:34,240
Speaker 1: which means that they made money. Okay, who's been on

1729
01:31:34,439 --> 01:31:36,760
Speaker 1: the longest year? Oh my goodness, Mike. We got to

1730
01:31:36,840 --> 01:31:39,599
Speaker 1: talk to him. He's been waiting forever. How you doing, Mike,

1731
01:31:41,160 --> 01:31:43,519
Speaker 1: I'm good. How you I'm good? I'm good. What you

1732
01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:44,000
Speaker 1: got man?

1733
01:31:45,520 --> 01:31:49,680
Speaker 27: I remember I was in Chevy and it was nighttime

1734
01:31:50,400 --> 01:31:50,760
Speaker 27: and it.

1735
01:31:50,880 --> 01:31:54,520
Speaker 21: Started snowing, and it was a thunderstorm.

1736
01:31:53,800 --> 01:31:58,479
Speaker 27: With snow, and when it would it looks wait.

1737
01:31:58,439 --> 01:31:59,080
Speaker 19: Were so big.

1738
01:31:59,160 --> 01:32:01,840
Speaker 21: They looked like the potato chips floating down.

1739
01:32:02,400 --> 01:32:05,200
Speaker 27: And then when the lightning would go, it would wide

1740
01:32:05,280 --> 01:32:08,240
Speaker 27: up the whole sky with the snow. I never heard

1741
01:32:08,280 --> 01:32:11,000
Speaker 27: anybody talk about that, but that was incredible.

1742
01:32:11,000 --> 01:32:12,519
Speaker 17: I wish i'd ha had that on video.

1743
01:32:13,000 --> 01:32:15,960
Speaker 1: Was that seventy seven or seventy eight, because I seem

1744
01:32:16,040 --> 01:32:19,559
Speaker 1: to remember that. It got real eerie there for a while,

1745
01:32:19,920 --> 01:32:23,360
Speaker 1: and it went from rain which froze over to snow,

1746
01:32:23,479 --> 01:32:26,360
Speaker 1: heavy snow, and I do remember some lightning. It was

1747
01:32:26,439 --> 01:32:28,720
Speaker 1: really crazy. Do you remember which year it was?

1748
01:32:29,680 --> 01:32:33,559
Speaker 27: I don't, that's okay, but I know it was one

1749
01:32:33,600 --> 01:32:38,080
Speaker 27: of the bad storms because it's kept going after that. Yeah,

1750
01:32:38,360 --> 01:32:39,400
Speaker 27: I've never seen that.

1751
01:32:39,439 --> 01:32:40,320
Speaker 7: Again in my life.

1752
01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:41,560
Speaker 1: Crazy stuff.

1753
01:32:41,840 --> 01:32:43,960
Speaker 17: It was beautiful. It was really neat.

1754
01:32:44,160 --> 01:32:47,599
Speaker 1: Yep, there's probably pictures somewhere. Hey, I appreciate the call. Mike.

1755
01:32:49,000 --> 01:32:49,720
Speaker 17: Good talking to you.

1756
01:32:49,840 --> 01:32:53,519
Speaker 1: Okay, you too, thank you? Oh lot, bye bye. Let's

1757
01:32:53,520 --> 01:32:55,040
Speaker 1: see who we got. I want to try to be

1758
01:32:55,080 --> 01:32:59,360
Speaker 1: fair here. Let's talk to Kurt in Madisonville. Hey, Kurt,

1759
01:32:59,400 --> 01:33:01,360
Speaker 1: how you doing at.

1760
01:33:01,200 --> 01:33:02,200
Speaker 7: Mike Cowry today?

1761
01:33:02,240 --> 01:33:04,040
Speaker 1: I'm good, I'm good what you got for me?

1762
01:33:05,160 --> 01:33:08,519
Speaker 36: So in nineteen seventy seven, I was a fourth grader

1763
01:33:09,240 --> 01:33:15,439
Speaker 36: at Greener Elementary in Mount Healthy and our teachers, they

1764
01:33:15,479 --> 01:33:19,280
Speaker 36: were everybody knew we had a blizzard coming. So our

1765
01:33:19,360 --> 01:33:22,160
Speaker 36: teachers they set us home. Nobody knew how long the

1766
01:33:22,160 --> 01:33:24,280
Speaker 36: schools were going to be closed, with about a month's

1767
01:33:24,280 --> 01:33:25,160
Speaker 36: for the homework.

1768
01:33:27,120 --> 01:33:28,320
Speaker 1: That was fun, I'm sure.

1769
01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:31,920
Speaker 36: Well, here's the bad part about it. So my mother

1770
01:33:32,240 --> 01:33:34,799
Speaker 36: was also a teacher done in Cincinnati Public.

1771
01:33:34,880 --> 01:33:36,719
Speaker 17: Well, she was home with us too.

1772
01:33:37,280 --> 01:33:37,519
Speaker 26: You know.

1773
01:33:38,360 --> 01:33:42,320
Speaker 36: She made us do a month's worth of homework in

1774
01:33:42,479 --> 01:33:45,880
Speaker 36: five days and the schools were only closed for a week.

1775
01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:47,160
Speaker 17: I was so mad.

1776
01:33:49,120 --> 01:33:51,439
Speaker 1: Did you get homework in addition to that? When you

1777
01:33:51,520 --> 01:33:52,000
Speaker 1: got back?

1778
01:33:52,920 --> 01:33:53,400
Speaker 27: I did?

1779
01:33:53,680 --> 01:33:54,599
Speaker 17: It was not fair?

1780
01:33:55,640 --> 01:33:59,519
Speaker 36: Really, Hey to this, I'm sitting there looking out the window,

1781
01:33:59,560 --> 01:34:02,519
Speaker 36: at all. My my friends and little buddies out there,

1782
01:34:02,560 --> 01:34:06,920
Speaker 36: they're building snowman and having no snowball fights and building

1783
01:34:06,960 --> 01:34:09,880
Speaker 36: snow forks, and I'm in here doing homework.

1784
01:34:10,200 --> 01:34:12,839
Speaker 1: Not fair that you guys should have went on strike.

1785
01:34:12,920 --> 01:34:13,759
Speaker 1: That's not fair.

1786
01:34:15,120 --> 01:34:15,920
Speaker 17: We weren't allow.

1787
01:34:16,160 --> 01:34:18,360
Speaker 1: I know, Hey, I appreciate the call.

1788
01:34:18,439 --> 01:34:20,000
Speaker 7: No, thank you, have a good one.

1789
01:34:20,080 --> 01:34:23,200
Speaker 1: Okay, that's first of I've heard of a story like that,

1790
01:34:23,479 --> 01:34:26,040
Speaker 1: But sounds like that's the way it was back then.

1791
01:34:26,320 --> 01:34:30,000
Speaker 1: Let's talk to Tim. He wants to talk about seventy

1792
01:34:30,040 --> 01:34:33,839
Speaker 1: seven and seventy eight. How you doing, Tim, Yeah, I'm.

1793
01:34:33,680 --> 01:34:37,760
Speaker 8: My Thanks for taking my call real quick. I was

1794
01:34:37,800 --> 01:34:42,320
Speaker 8: thirteen and seventy seven delivering the inquiry from about two

1795
01:34:42,520 --> 01:34:45,439
Speaker 8: to about six thirty in the morning every other morning.

1796
01:34:46,479 --> 01:34:49,200
Speaker 8: So I didn't deliver the night of the blizzard, and

1797
01:34:49,360 --> 01:34:51,720
Speaker 8: neither did my boss Tony. By the way, I grew

1798
01:34:51,760 --> 01:34:55,080
Speaker 8: up on rapid run. Okay, you know where I'm talking about, absolutely,

1799
01:34:56,160 --> 01:34:59,080
Speaker 8: so that was our area. Drove fifty miles every night,

1800
01:34:59,640 --> 01:35:04,519
Speaker 8: you know, to deliver the inquire And so the next

1801
01:35:04,600 --> 01:35:08,400
Speaker 8: night we were out delivering freezing cold I'm on the

1802
01:35:08,439 --> 01:35:12,120
Speaker 8: back of his LTD station wagon, riding in Horsey style

1803
01:35:12,800 --> 01:35:16,320
Speaker 8: and uh delivering the inquire so half my chest is

1804
01:35:16,360 --> 01:35:21,800
Speaker 8: above the roof of the car. Man ducking down every

1805
01:35:21,920 --> 01:35:28,000
Speaker 8: chance I got. But anyway, thunder snow yes from that,

1806
01:35:28,800 --> 01:35:33,360
Speaker 8: And it was awesome. It was I didn't understand it,

1807
01:35:33,920 --> 01:35:35,160
Speaker 8: but it was awesome.

1808
01:35:35,760 --> 01:35:36,400
Speaker 4: And then.

1809
01:35:38,240 --> 01:35:41,240
Speaker 8: UH, talking on the phone, the phone lines were getting

1810
01:35:41,280 --> 01:35:44,320
Speaker 8: crossed up, so you were getting into other people's conversations.

1811
01:35:44,479 --> 01:35:47,559
Speaker 1: Oh, I not. I didn't hear that. That's interesting. I

1812
01:35:47,600 --> 01:35:48,320
Speaker 1: did not know that.

1813
01:35:49,640 --> 01:35:54,559
Speaker 8: Also, it did rain the day before and the day

1814
01:35:54,640 --> 01:35:56,960
Speaker 8: of the blizzard. You know, the blizzard head at night,

1815
01:35:57,080 --> 01:36:00,280
Speaker 8: so the day of it was raining all day and

1816
01:36:00,320 --> 01:36:03,800
Speaker 8: the ground was already frozen. So all that rain just

1817
01:36:03,880 --> 01:36:07,760
Speaker 8: ran off into the streets. And my boss drove most

1818
01:36:07,760 --> 01:36:10,800
Speaker 8: of the night without his hands on the wheels, which

1819
01:36:10,800 --> 01:36:14,240
Speaker 8: he didn't do anyway. But he didn't use his knees either,

1820
01:36:14,280 --> 01:36:16,720
Speaker 8: because he was just in the trail, you know, the

1821
01:36:16,800 --> 01:36:18,639
Speaker 8: tire tracks of everybody else that.

1822
01:36:18,720 --> 01:36:20,120
Speaker 7: Had been driving on the road.

1823
01:36:20,160 --> 01:36:26,439
Speaker 8: Then schools school uh in Del High O Kills. I

1824
01:36:26,479 --> 01:36:29,080
Speaker 8: went to the High Junior High at the time, UH

1825
01:36:29,160 --> 01:36:34,320
Speaker 8: they closed High Junior, or they closed Dallas and CEO

1826
01:36:34,439 --> 01:36:37,280
Speaker 8: Harrison put him in in UH Del.

1827
01:36:37,200 --> 01:36:38,080
Speaker 1: High Junior High.

1828
01:36:38,280 --> 01:36:41,160
Speaker 8: Oh Okay High Junior High students were off for a

1829
01:36:41,240 --> 01:36:44,640
Speaker 8: couple of three weeks because of the gas shortage, the

1830
01:36:44,920 --> 01:36:49,880
Speaker 8: natural gas shortage for the heat, so they had Dallas

1831
01:36:49,960 --> 01:36:52,760
Speaker 8: in the morning and Ceo Harrison in the in the

1832
01:36:52,800 --> 01:36:54,400
Speaker 8: afternoon going to school.

1833
01:36:54,720 --> 01:36:57,639
Speaker 1: Well at least it wasn't as bad as COVID though.

1834
01:36:57,720 --> 01:37:01,040
Speaker 1: But yeah, I appreciate the call. And I'll tell you what,

1835
01:37:01,080 --> 01:37:03,120
Speaker 1: that must have been a hard job that you had

1836
01:37:03,160 --> 01:37:08,400
Speaker 1: back then, man, I mean, yeah, well, shows your dedication.

1837
01:37:08,560 --> 01:37:10,479
Speaker 1: I appreciate the call to him.

1838
01:37:10,520 --> 01:37:13,280
Speaker 8: Thank you, yes, sir, right, good day, Mike.

1839
01:37:13,240 --> 01:37:15,559
Speaker 1: You too. Thanks. You know what I mean. That is

1840
01:37:15,680 --> 01:37:18,439
Speaker 1: dedication in that awful weather to get out there and

1841
01:37:18,479 --> 01:37:21,559
Speaker 1: deliver the paper. You know, I get the Wall Street

1842
01:37:21,640 --> 01:37:25,559
Speaker 1: Journal delivered every day except for Saturday, and they miss

1843
01:37:25,640 --> 01:37:27,280
Speaker 1: every once in a while, and you get used to

1844
01:37:27,320 --> 01:37:30,800
Speaker 1: wanting it in the morning when it comes there. But no,

1845
01:37:30,920 --> 01:37:34,560
Speaker 1: that would be a tough job. Let's talk to Tim.

1846
01:37:35,320 --> 01:37:37,800
Speaker 1: He wants to talk about seventy seven and seventy eight

1847
01:37:37,840 --> 01:37:38,240
Speaker 1: as well.

1848
01:37:38,360 --> 01:37:41,599
Speaker 17: What you got Tim, Hey, how you doing.

1849
01:37:41,720 --> 01:37:43,400
Speaker 1: I'm good, I'm good. How about you?

1850
01:37:43,720 --> 01:37:44,080
Speaker 12: Yeah?

1851
01:37:44,200 --> 01:37:46,120
Speaker 17: Well back in good? Thank you for acton.

1852
01:37:46,439 --> 01:37:47,760
Speaker 19: Yeah, back in nineteen seventy eight.

1853
01:37:47,800 --> 01:37:50,200
Speaker 22: I was just walking from a friend's house to that

1854
01:37:50,280 --> 01:37:52,280
Speaker 22: that it was paralyzed waist down from an accident. But

1855
01:37:52,320 --> 01:37:55,759
Speaker 22: we scuff he bobby off. We scuff there and smoke

1856
01:37:55,800 --> 01:37:58,240
Speaker 22: weed with him and stuff, and I'll I will actually

1857
01:37:58,320 --> 01:38:02,160
Speaker 22: walked up there and then walked up there and walked

1858
01:38:02,160 --> 01:38:04,320
Speaker 22: back in. The winds were at least forty miles an hour. Yeah,

1859
01:38:04,320 --> 01:38:06,320
Speaker 22: he was, Yeah, he was parao like west down. He

1860
01:38:06,760 --> 01:38:09,840
Speaker 22: didn't look. We had a bunch of us just hanging

1861
01:38:09,880 --> 01:38:12,080
Speaker 22: out out there for him, and I walked back in

1862
01:38:12,200 --> 01:38:14,040
Speaker 22: the winds were just blowing east side to side.

1863
01:38:14,040 --> 01:38:14,720
Speaker 24: But I made it through.

1864
01:38:14,760 --> 01:38:17,479
Speaker 22: It made it from there for about four blocks there.

1865
01:38:17,520 --> 01:38:21,160
Speaker 1: You go, Well, you know what you made it and

1866
01:38:21,200 --> 01:38:22,240
Speaker 1: that's the main thing.

1867
01:38:23,040 --> 01:38:25,120
Speaker 22: Yes, sir, that's that's that's what's all about.

1868
01:38:25,160 --> 01:38:26,640
Speaker 19: All right, thank you for your time, and you have

1869
01:38:26,680 --> 01:38:27,360
Speaker 19: a great one.

1870
01:38:27,240 --> 01:38:30,599
Speaker 1: You too, Tim. Stay safe. That's a good one. Hey,

1871
01:38:30,720 --> 01:38:33,639
Speaker 1: let's talk to Dennis. You want to talk about seventy seven?

1872
01:38:33,800 --> 01:38:35,280
Speaker 1: Hey Dennis, what's up? Man?

1873
01:38:37,000 --> 01:38:37,200
Speaker 12: Hey?

1874
01:38:37,240 --> 01:38:37,800
Speaker 19: How you going?

1875
01:38:38,040 --> 01:38:39,920
Speaker 1: I'm good? I'm good. What you got.

1876
01:38:41,960 --> 01:38:43,000
Speaker 19: The heios the area?

1877
01:38:43,160 --> 01:38:43,360
Speaker 17: Yeah?

1878
01:38:43,439 --> 01:38:46,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, can you hear me? I can hear you? Oh?

1879
01:38:46,360 --> 01:38:51,400
Speaker 19: Perfect, Okay, Sorry, Okay. In seventy seven seventy eight, my

1880
01:38:51,520 --> 01:38:54,320
Speaker 19: next door neighbor, we were about fifteen sixteen years old.

1881
01:38:54,840 --> 01:38:57,799
Speaker 19: We went down to see the frozen river. We started

1882
01:38:57,800 --> 01:39:00,479
Speaker 19: walking on it to get our confidence, and it has

1883
01:39:00,520 --> 01:39:04,320
Speaker 19: been broken and refrozen. We get to the center of

1884
01:39:04,320 --> 01:39:07,400
Speaker 19: the river and there's about a three or four foot

1885
01:39:08,160 --> 01:39:11,120
Speaker 19: break where it's just water, and we're like, what are

1886
01:39:11,160 --> 01:39:11,600
Speaker 19: we going to do?

1887
01:39:11,680 --> 01:39:11,920
Speaker 14: Now?

1888
01:39:12,200 --> 01:39:17,120
Speaker 19: Is the bellevue The Bellevue fire department is on the

1889
01:39:17,160 --> 01:39:20,759
Speaker 19: Bellevue side with bullhorns, and if we go back there,

1890
01:39:20,960 --> 01:39:24,000
Speaker 19: we're going to be dumb asses and humiliated. So we

1891
01:39:24,040 --> 01:39:26,760
Speaker 19: don't do that. So we had this gym teacher named

1892
01:39:26,760 --> 01:39:30,160
Speaker 19: mister Wilson who was in the Olympics, and he taught

1893
01:39:30,200 --> 01:39:35,559
Speaker 19: us tumbling. So we decided to not break the ice.

1894
01:39:35,920 --> 01:39:39,760
Speaker 19: On the other side, we were going to dive and

1895
01:39:39,880 --> 01:39:43,719
Speaker 19: do forward rolls over this water wall. The first guy

1896
01:39:43,800 --> 01:39:48,080
Speaker 19: goes in the water, the ice compresses down about or

1897
01:39:48,160 --> 01:39:51,639
Speaker 19: bends down about two inches. The second guy sees that

1898
01:39:52,000 --> 01:39:55,080
Speaker 19: and now has to do a forward roll over that

1899
01:39:57,000 --> 01:39:59,720
Speaker 19: over the ice. And then we're really happy about not

1900
01:39:59,800 --> 01:40:01,280
Speaker 19: being dead or in the water.

1901
01:40:01,439 --> 01:40:02,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1902
01:40:02,160 --> 01:40:06,240
Speaker 19: And then now that Cincinnati police they have born and

1903
01:40:06,280 --> 01:40:10,440
Speaker 19: they're calling for us. So we go across to Cincinnati.

1904
01:40:10,640 --> 01:40:13,360
Speaker 19: We make our way up the hill. I don't remember

1905
01:40:13,400 --> 01:40:16,640
Speaker 19: what they said, but they were found out we were

1906
01:40:16,640 --> 01:40:19,639
Speaker 19: from Kentucky and they were scolding us. And we went

1907
01:40:19,760 --> 01:40:23,040
Speaker 19: up on whatever that road is sitting here fifty two

1908
01:40:23,680 --> 01:40:27,519
Speaker 19: and we flagged down a potato chip truck. He took

1909
01:40:27,640 --> 01:40:32,080
Speaker 19: us to Newport. We walked back to Bellevue. One of

1910
01:40:32,080 --> 01:40:34,600
Speaker 19: our moms sticks their head out the door and says,

1911
01:40:34,920 --> 01:40:36,080
Speaker 19: we were worried sick.

1912
01:40:35,920 --> 01:40:36,719
Speaker 7: About you guys.

1913
01:40:36,920 --> 01:40:40,320
Speaker 19: Yeah, we heard on the radio there were two dumb

1914
01:40:40,400 --> 01:40:44,800
Speaker 19: kids in the middle of the river. And we just said, no, no, no,

1915
01:40:45,160 --> 01:40:46,400
Speaker 19: it wasn't.

1916
01:40:45,640 --> 01:40:49,720
Speaker 1: I did you in later years admit that it was you.

1917
01:40:50,880 --> 01:40:53,040
Speaker 19: Well, I was just going to say my mom and

1918
01:40:53,120 --> 01:40:56,240
Speaker 19: dad died three years ago, aged ninety five and ninety.

1919
01:40:56,840 --> 01:40:58,719
Speaker 19: I never told them.

1920
01:41:00,040 --> 01:41:04,639
Speaker 1: Probably a good idea. That's a great story, Dennis. There

1921
01:41:04,720 --> 01:41:06,200
Speaker 1: you go. Thank you for that.

1922
01:41:07,360 --> 01:41:09,880
Speaker 19: A good day you too, Man.

1923
01:41:09,920 --> 01:41:12,680
Speaker 1: I tell you what, that would be kind of a

1924
01:41:12,680 --> 01:41:16,320
Speaker 1: frightening thing. When we went across the thing, it had

1925
01:41:16,320 --> 01:41:18,360
Speaker 1: been frozen, I don't know, just for a couple of days,

1926
01:41:18,400 --> 01:41:21,519
Speaker 1: and I think it stayed frozen pretty long after that.

1927
01:41:21,600 --> 01:41:24,120
Speaker 1: But man, that would not be something that you would

1928
01:41:24,160 --> 01:41:26,439
Speaker 1: want to have happened. Walk out in the middle, and

1929
01:41:27,439 --> 01:41:29,320
Speaker 1: I don't even want to think about it. Hey, listen,

1930
01:41:29,439 --> 01:41:32,200
Speaker 1: we are out of time here. Ken Brew follows me.

1931
01:41:32,880 --> 01:41:36,679
Speaker 1: I'd like to thank my producer Lean Tomlinson and everyone.

1932
01:41:36,920 --> 01:41:42,320
Speaker 1: Stay safe. Mike Allen seven hundred WLW You're attention.

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1934
01:41:46,720 --> 01:41:51,000
Speaker 30: you can protect your family. Listen to WASSAMMI iHeartRadio app

1935
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Speaker 28: Oh, we're gonna be so late for the concert.

1939
01:42:03,479 --> 01:42:06,000
Speaker 1: We should be there by now. Just need to make

1940
01:42:06,040 --> 01:42:06,679
Speaker 1: a little detour.