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Speaker 1: From the fish filled Midwest lakes to the deep woods

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Speaker 1: of the North upland prairies filled with pheasants, to the

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Speaker 1: whistling wings of duck ponds. This is Saturday Morning Fan Outdoors,

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Speaker 1: your show for hunting and fishing tips, topics and conversations.

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Speaker 1: You can also send us a question or opinion by

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Speaker 1: emailing us booth at kfean dot com. Here's your host,

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Speaker 1: the Fans, Captain Billy Hildebrand.

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Speaker 2: Good morning Fan Outdoors. Faithful, Yes, good morning to you.

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Speaker 2: Breton knows the intro so good he can mouth every

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Speaker 2: single word of that too. I've been doing it long enough,

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Speaker 2: Yes you have, and I appreciate that. Also. It's really

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Speaker 2: nice to have somebody that's been with us for a

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Speaker 2: period of time. I value that more than you know.

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Speaker 2: But it is the twentieth of December, my goodness, gracious,

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Speaker 2: and tomorrow, oh tomorrow is the shortest day of the year.

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Speaker 2: And you know what that means, everybody. It means we

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Speaker 2: are on a steady climb to longer days and eventually

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Speaker 2: we'll be doing cabin casts again. Springs right around the corner,

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Speaker 2: is what can I say? And that means that the

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Speaker 2: State Fair is also right, eyja, if we can get

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Speaker 2: the spring, I'll put up with the state fair whining

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Speaker 2: about that again for a while anyway. But it is

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Speaker 2: the twentieth of December and the holiday season is upon us.

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Speaker 2: Lots of lots of gift giving, lots of kids really

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Speaker 2: excited about Santa's arrival, and I think that's pretty cool.

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Speaker 2: My grandkids they have the elf that is at their house,

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Speaker 2: and you know, they can't the elf will show up

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Speaker 2: in the mornings. Each morning they get to look for

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Speaker 2: the elf and when they can find him, they can't

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Speaker 2: touch him or he'll not come back. So it's been

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Speaker 2: really fun for him. Yesterday the elf was sitting on

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Speaker 2: the sink in the bathroom and add wrapped toilet paper

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Speaker 2: all around things, and they were pretty excited about it.

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Speaker 2: One morning they found him in a jar and he

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Speaker 2: fell when they one of them tried to move him

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Speaker 2: with a paper under the jar. Well, he fell on

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Speaker 2: jar and the kids went crazy, you can't do that.

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Speaker 2: He's going to be gone, He's not going to come back.

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Speaker 2: It was it was, yeah, but they're having all of

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Speaker 2: them are having a great time with it, and it

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Speaker 2: is a really neat thing, I think, and I'm enjoying

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Speaker 2: it too, but it is special. It's nothing like we had.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, the the deer season is winding down, there

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Speaker 2: is a CWD hunt and if you're interested in participating

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Speaker 2: in that, I think the licenses are two fifty and

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Speaker 2: you can. If you have unused tags, they can be

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Speaker 2: the rules and how you go about doing it too,

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Speaker 2: if you are so inclined, which I'm not. But Eric

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Speaker 2: will be down there partially, partially hunting, partially working, and

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Speaker 2: that's kind of what he does and that's okay. But

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Speaker 2: if you're still in the bird hunting the state of mind,

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Speaker 2: and I know that Brie is just absolutely driving me berserk,

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Speaker 2: I need to get her out and that warm day

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Speaker 2: this week would have been a dynamite time. I'm just

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Speaker 2: hoping for one more really good day before the end

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Speaker 2: of the season and we need to go tramp around.

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Speaker 2: But late season pheasants, late season pheasants are it's a

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Speaker 2: total different bird than earlier in the year if you're

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Speaker 2: used to that, and that's when you last went late season.

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Speaker 2: Birds are survivors. They are they have gotten through most

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Speaker 2: of a season, and that being said, they have been

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Speaker 2: hunted probably pretty intensely. And that means for you, the hunter,

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Speaker 2: for your four legged buddy, you need to employ a

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Speaker 2: couple of other strategies. One this is my opinion, but

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Speaker 2: it comes after a lot of years of experience too,

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Speaker 2: and a lot of people, including Bob Saint Pierre agree

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Speaker 2: in mind when you pull into a public hunting area

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Speaker 2: a kiss of death. Boy, don't do that, and from Alec,

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Speaker 2: don't do that because again, the noise is going to

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Speaker 2: send them scurrying. If you're going in one side of

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Speaker 2: don't want to do that. So if you're yelling at

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Speaker 2: Be quiet, Be as quiet as you can, all right.

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Speaker 2: And a lot of these birds, at least in Minnesota,

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Speaker 2: really good chance there could be seven or eight or

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Speaker 2: they are truly truly trophy birds. Now, one other thing

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Speaker 2: I saw it. I can't remember where I saw it now.

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Speaker 2: years ago, when I was interested in prolonging hunting season,

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Speaker 2: for myself because it would allow me to put some

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Speaker 2: really really nice looking birds or usually birds. There's a

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Speaker 2: nothing about it, so I'd look in comic books and

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Speaker 2: American School of Taxidermy, all right, send a buck and

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Speaker 2: a half or whatever. Well, I bet I ordered that

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Speaker 2: bird like a blackbird, a small bird. That's so hard.

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Speaker 2: And now with the taxidermy there are kits out there

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Speaker 2: and there will be some instructions too. But I can

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Speaker 2: tell you from my experience, if you have a friend,

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Speaker 2: to help you learn. And that's what I had with

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Speaker 2: But the kit aspect of it, I think is crucial

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Speaker 2: and it's well worthwhile if you could learn how to

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Speaker 2: long and people will be coming to you asking you

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Speaker 2: So if you just do it for yourself and friends

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Speaker 2: and family, then there's no license involved. But if you're

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Speaker 2: little bit. But taxidermy is fun occupy. If you've got

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Speaker 2: some spare time, some free time in the winter, you

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Speaker 2: can freeze the birds. Put them in plastic bags, sealed bags,

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Speaker 2: put artificial bodies in it, the eyes, and pose them

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Speaker 2: and just let them dry and in about a week

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Speaker 2: you will have a finished specimen. So that's it. There's

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Speaker 2: more to it than just that. But it's really really fun.

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Speaker 2: And now they have kits available rather than trying to

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Speaker 2: figure out what you need for everything you need and

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Speaker 2: you don't need to buy a whole bunch of this

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Speaker 2: to take a pause because right after this we'll take

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Speaker 2: a pause and Tommy George will be along and we're

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Speaker 2: gonna find out if Tommy has been on the ice

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Speaker 2: or if he's still searching for mermaids. I don't know,

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Speaker 2: but if he does, he has strict instructions to call me.

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Speaker 2: Uh huh, I would like to go meet the person,

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Speaker 2: the lady, the mermaid. Yes, anyway, we'll take a pause

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Speaker 2: and we'll be back with Tammy Tommy George next on

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Speaker 2: Fan Outdoors. We're back Fan Outdoors coming away, Billy Hilde

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Speaker 2: around here, Brett Blaken, We're there and our next guest. Oh,

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Speaker 2: by the way, the taxidermy placed that I was talking

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Speaker 2: about is called Mackenzie Taxidermy and they have a website.

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Speaker 2: You can go right to it. But Mackenzie Taxi me

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Speaker 2: and they have brand new kits that are just coming

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Speaker 2: out for various animals, So keep that in mind if

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Speaker 2: you're interested. Our next guest is a he's a pretty

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Speaker 2: much a regular Fan Outdoors and we value him too,

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Speaker 2: and we appreciate his time for always because this man

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Speaker 2: we've been on the ice together. We have we have,

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Speaker 2: when it comes to mermaids in Minnesota and Wisconsin. So

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Speaker 2: he joins us right now, mister Tommy George pro angler,

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Speaker 2: Tommy George, Tommy good good morning, sir, Good.

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Speaker 3: Morning, Billy, and for Brett. Also, it's going to be

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Speaker 3: a fairly nice day today again, Billy. So the fish

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Speaker 3: are biting, just to let you know. And and right

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Speaker 3: now the ice is pretty safe. So that's just on

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Speaker 2: You know, well, is our mermaid? Are you gonna go

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Speaker 3: You know, some of the guys over there drill holes

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Speaker 3: she'd show up one of these days and jump in

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Speaker 3: it's still early and right after ice out.

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Speaker 4: She might be her off.

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Speaker 2: All right now, you promised if if she shows up,

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Speaker 2: you're gonna call me.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm not only gonna call him in a bad heart.

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Speaker 2: Okay. So the ice is setting up pretty well. I

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Speaker 2: hear you say, yes it is, Billy.

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Speaker 3: You know I went out last Tuesday and when it

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Speaker 3: blowing snow for a few days. But uh, Anyways, Tuesday

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Speaker 3: was a beautiful day. I went over to one of

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Speaker 3: over by burn Park, Wisconsin. It's called Bass Lake, and

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Speaker 3: I ended up going there and fishing the north end

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Speaker 3: but I didn't. I wasn't sure how fifty ice r was.

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Speaker 3: it was ten inches of good ice.

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Speaker 5: Ten inches, yes.

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Speaker 3: I would have been happy with four or five, but

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Speaker 3: it was ten. So I kept and it was nice

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Speaker 3: clean ice. So I was walking around drilling holes looking

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Speaker 3: the north end, there's a lots of weeds out there.

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Speaker 3: So I drilled I don't know, a dozen holes, and finally, Billy,

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Speaker 4: Suck it in.

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Speaker 2: Well tell me with that little tiny fly that you

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Speaker 3: Yes, it is, Billy, You know, I I was planning

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Speaker 3: it's it's just it doesn't get me better. These fish

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Speaker 5: A bit bigger than the twelve.

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Speaker 3: But the crappies, the crappies were so well. I had

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Speaker 5: They like it's small.

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Speaker 2: Well, Telly, I think that a lot of people, myself included,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, Billy, I've learned that over the years myself.

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Speaker 3: just it's just like a bug. You know, there's in

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Speaker 3: And I was watching these fish come in and they

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Speaker 2: Do you stay away from other people, Tommy, because there's

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Speaker 3: And absolutely, Billy, all.

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Speaker 2: The noise has got to make a difference.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, there is guys on the lake. Uh Tuesday when

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Speaker 3: there's some four wheelers out there, and I stick. I

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Speaker 3: totally stay away from them, Billy. All I wanted to

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Speaker 2: Will you Will you actually move if somebody comes and

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Speaker 5: You, billy.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm using my little fish traps so I

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Speaker 3: Put it in there. It doesn't make any noise, So

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Speaker 3: if that person. Sometimes people will spook the fish away

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Speaker 3: I'll stay right there. They don't even if people don't

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Speaker 2: The truck got out. We're jacking bab bye Bay, Bye bye.

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Speaker 2: And this is about where we were. Yeah, over and

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Speaker 2: would you like some hell? And I'll drill your holes

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Speaker 2: for you? And oh, yeah, that would be pretty nice,

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Speaker 3: The billy that's what I used Tuesday, and I was

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Speaker 4: Quite a bit wash. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, when you're catching all the sunnis and stuff. That

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Speaker 2: And one of the other things, Tommy, as far as

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Speaker 3: If the use sitefish. You can see you can see

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, you're just it's amazing, Tommy.

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00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 2: We're gonna let you go.

433
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 5: Buddy.

434
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 2: We're out of time, but I thank you. And you

435
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 2: said you're going to be out again. Are you going

436
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 2: this weekend?

437
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 3: Yes, I definitely am, Billiant. I just want to mention.

438
00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 3: I want to say you and your family have the

439
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:06,439
Speaker 3: merriest Christmas and Brett to I hope your families are

440
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 3: always happy and healthy. And I'd like to mention just

441
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 3: all the guys that I've worked with for over fifty

442
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 3: years in Local four seventeen, a bunch of good guys.

443
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 3: They're all fishermen and the ladies too. They're just they're

444
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 3: good people and I wish them all merry Christmas and

445
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 3: a wonderful New Year.

446
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:27,360
Speaker 2: Thanks Tommy again the same back to you and your family,

447
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 2: My friend and I. We will will be talking again

448
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 2: really quick, but give me a heads up if you're

449
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 2: still catching them too. I might maybe I'll join you.

450
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 2: I'm not sure, we'll see.

451
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 4: I would like that.

452
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 5: Thanks, Billy, you bet you.

453
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 2: Tommy George pro angler, Tommy George, and he loves the

454
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 2: fish and he is successful. Also, we will take a

455
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 2: pause and we'll be back with another angler, but he's

456
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 2: way up north and he too has been a regular

457
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 2: on Fan Outdoors. Not a regular, but no stranger. We'll

458
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 2: just leave it at that, okay, and mister Jeff Anderson

459
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 2: joins us from Bodette. Next We're back Fan Outdoors, coming

460
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 2: your way and delighted, delighted to be with you too

461
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 2: each and every Saturday. Really really enjoy being able to

462
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 2: spend time with you. And I know our guests are

463
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 2: exactly the same way, because everybody we talked to our

464
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 2: avid and really really enjoy the outdoors as yours truly does.

465
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 2: Also but you know, Brett is an Avid endorsement too,

466
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 2: so we're working on him. Unless that there's a golf

467
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 2: club in my hand, I'll go outside. You can see

468
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 2: if we can get a tea someplace nearby and color

469
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 2: your your golf wall and get it bright yellow and

470
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 2: whack away, buddy, No everywhere anyway. Hey, our next guest

471
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 2: is coming to us way up north, all the way

472
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 2: up into the Lake of the Woods area from Buddette, Minnesota.

473
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 2: The mister Jeff Anderson joins us right now. Jeff, good morning, sir.

474
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 4: Hey, good morning to you guys.

475
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 2: How are you not bad? Not bad? That's tomorrow is

476
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 2: the shortest day of the year, buddy, it is.

477
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 4: Yes, I know. We we don't have much sunlight. We

478
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 4: get up in the dark and we go to bed

479
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 4: in the darker.

480
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 2: The truth.

481
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just like, yeah, it's it's the middle of

482
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 4: well we're not quite in the winter doldrums quite yet,

483
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 4: but I think everybody the excitement is high for winter

484
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 4: and and all the fun stuff. Even with the lack

485
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 4: of sunlight that we that were we we lack. I

486
00:30:58,200 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 4: guess it.

487
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 2: It really takes kind of the well, the darkness. You

488
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 2: go to work in the dark and you come home

489
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 2: in the dark, that that gets old in a very

490
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 2: short time. But if you're if you're enjoying yourself and

491
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 2: you're get you get a little bit more sleep, and

492
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 2: then you can get up and still be dark. But

493
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 2: it uh, it makes for a longer night that you

494
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 2: can get some rest too.

495
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 5: Well.

496
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,959
Speaker 4: That's what keeps us on our toes here in Minnesota,

497
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 4: the change change of seasons. And you know, with every

498
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 4: change of season there's something to look forward to, which

499
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 4: is which is which I love? You know, I love

500
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 4: you know, the fall time and then of course leading

501
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 4: in the winter and then the spring, you know, all

502
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 4: the fresh rolls and you know, and of course all

503
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 4: the different quarry to chase. You know, like each season

504
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 4: brings brings something new, and I just think that goes

505
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 4: well with maybe my personality, maybe not for everybody else,

506
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 4: but it's something that I'm always I always just love

507
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 4: what what's next? What's next on the list?

508
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 2: Somebody asked me not long ago, why don't you go

509
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 2: south for the winter, And I thought to myself, No, no,

510
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 2: I don't want to do that. I like the change

511
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 2: of seasons. Yeah, you could move south, but no, I

512
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 2: ain't doing that. And I mean, if if you if

513
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 2: you like to fish, fish ice, and if you like

514
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 2: open water, fish open water, but when it comes to

515
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 2: a close, you bring closer to it, and then when

516
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 2: it comes back around again, it's brand new. And I

517
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 2: love that new feeling each time and the change of seasons.

518
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,239
Speaker 2: There's a lot of people that don't experience that, and

519
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 2: they really don't know how pleasing and how wonderful that

520
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 2: change is.

521
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 4: It is. It is something really really special, especially for

522
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 4: you know, people who enjoy the outdoors and whether whether

523
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 4: it's fishing or hunting, you know, all of course there's

524
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 4: snowmobiling and you know skiing and and you know, snowshoe

525
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 4: and all the all the different things. And yeah, if

526
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 4: you're that active person that likes to uh likes something different,

527
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 4: we we have that here in Minnesota. And you're right,

528
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 4: it is some especially when we moved up north. You know,

529
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 4: I got as a funny little correlation is we moved

530
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 4: up north, and of course we moved from the center,

531
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 4: you know, brainer Baxter area, which has a lot of

532
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 4: stores and shops and a lot of things. Well, my

533
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 4: two beautiful girls that my wife and my daughter, you know,

534
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 4: that was a little bit of adjustment to them. But

535
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 4: now when we go on the road and we we

536
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 4: go whether it's out out for skating or hockey or fishing,

537
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 4: over wherever we're off to go as a family, I

538
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 4: tell them, boy, now when you get to go to

539
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 4: you know, one of these special stores, it's a special

540
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 4: deal now. So it's kind of kind of the same

541
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 4: thing with with our seasons, you know. I guess that's

542
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 4: how my mind works is is it's not mundane, and

543
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 4: it's always a change, and it's always something to prepare for.

544
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 5: You know.

545
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 4: That's one of my favorite things. And I try to

546
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 4: teach my kids that, you know, success in the outdoors

547
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 4: happens so much more before you you get on your

548
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 4: trip where you go out. It's it's the preparation that

549
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 4: comes with it and thinking of all the things and

550
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 4: the lures and the rods, and I need a heavyweight rod,

551
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,439
Speaker 4: I need a you know, I need a lightweight rod.

552
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 4: I need a bobber rod. I need you know, a

553
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 4: small jig I need well, I need an extra battery

554
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 4: for this. I need it, you know, another headlamp just

555
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 4: in case this one goes out. I love that preparation

556
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 4: part of going on trips, and you know that's what

557
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 4: the change of seasons brings us. Well, you pull your

558
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 4: ice fishing gear down, you know, you get your auger

559
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 4: blades out, you get you know, you get all the

560
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,800
Speaker 4: things out, and I just love to tinker in the garage.

561
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 4: And yeah, that's that. I just live for that. I

562
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,359
Speaker 4: think it's it's such a special deal.

563
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,879
Speaker 2: Well, and for a lot of people from the Twin

564
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 2: City area going up north as the Brainerd Lakes area, yeah, sure,

565
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 2: but when you get people from the South. I'll never

566
00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 2: forget when I had a principle in school when time

567
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 2: that came to us from Texas and he was just

568
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 2: an amazing man, and I be my favorite person for

569
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 2: as long as I was in education, and I wanted

570
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 2: to take kids ice fishing, and he said, well, he

571
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 2: drove a Porsche, an older Porsche, so anyway, so he was.

572
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:27,439
Speaker 2: He wore a long black leather coat and he said, well,

573
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 2: mister Hildebrand, I'm not so sure about that. Maybe we

574
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 2: better go out and check this ice and see how

575
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 2: safe it is before we even think about this, okay,

576
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 2: And I said, of course, I said, Willy, let's go.

577
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 2: So it was after school one day, we got in

578
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 2: the car and drove out to Eagle Lake, which isn't

579
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 2: very far away, and we stopped on the access the

580
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 2: road let out into the ice and he says, well,

581
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 2: now where do we go? And I said, well, just

582
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 2: follow the road. It's okay. So he did. We got

583
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 2: out there and we stopped the car and I said,

584
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 2: I've got I've got my auger in the back. We'll

585
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 2: get that out and I can we can test the ice.

586
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 2: And he said are you sure? And I said, you know, yeah,

587
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 2: that's okay. So he opened the door and I saw

588
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 2: him stick his foot out. We're sitting on the ice

589
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 2: in his car by the way. Put his foot out

590
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 2: and he's tapping on the ice, and I said, it's okay,

591
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 2: it's not going to break. Are you sure. So the

592
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 2: whole concept of frozen ice, frozen water for a lot

593
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 2: of people is a concept that they just have difficulty

594
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 2: grasping too.

595
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's like anything when when it's new

596
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 4: and it's you know, you're on top of water and

597
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 4: and it's fun to see see those reactions for people,

598
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 4: especially up here in Lake the Wood, Yes, where you see.

599
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 4: I mean, it's a it's a highway in the mornings,

600
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 4: and it's a highway in the evenings. And you get out,

601
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 4: it's a big city. You know, there's fish houses everywhere,

602
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,919
Speaker 4: and it's it's so great to see those reactions from

603
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 4: from uh, from you know, from people that have never

604
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:07,399
Speaker 4: experienced it. And yeah, again, that's what it's all about, right,

605
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 4: is is to get out and experience new things and

606
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 4: and and of course catch a bunch of fish and

607
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 4: make memories and all the good things that come along

608
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 4: with it.

609
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:17,919
Speaker 2: Is your ice up there? Is it setting up well?

610
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 5: It is?

611
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, we uh, you know, it changed fast. We we

612
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 4: had a nice warm, warm, I guess windy, uh November,

613
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 4: first part of November, and then you know, right a

614
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 4: deer season. You know that first Saturday we had the

615
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 4: perfect conditions. You know, it's calm, and it got really

616
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 4: cold and it locked things up pretty nice, and uh,

617
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 4: we we just made a good sheet of ice that

618
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,720
Speaker 4: didn't move around much. And we've had cold weather since.

619
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 4: We got a little bit of snowfall. It actually just

620
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 4: melted this week and then uh, you know, and then

621
00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 4: we got some more snow here. So so we're we're

622
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 4: set up pretty good. You know, the the the ice moves,

623
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,280
Speaker 4: especially this time of year when you have eight twelve

624
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 4: inches of ice, you know, with with extreme weather changes,

625
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 4: it's it's like a big science project out there where

626
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 4: you know, it's it's expanding and then it's moving, and

627
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 4: then there's ice heaves and then there's cracks that open up,

628
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 4: and you know, this time of year, it's it's anytime

629
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 4: you're on the ice, you know, if you're new to

630
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 4: ice fishing, we always say ice is never one hundred

631
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 4: percent safe. It's it's smart to go out with somebody

632
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 4: that's experience. And usually usually when you're able to understand

633
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 4: how the ice moves and the cracks and how to

634
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 4: cross those, and it's it's much more safe, you know.

635
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 4: And so you just got to use that caution and

636
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 4: view with an experienced person like anything, and uh, you're

637
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 4: you'd be just fine. But no, our ice is it's

638
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,919
Speaker 4: in great shape. And you know, I think I said

639
00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 4: this the last few shows, like the fall fish was

640
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 4: so good here and and I just knew that our

641
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 4: fishing was going to be good right away. And we

642
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,439
Speaker 4: had we had a group of five the other day

643
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 4: and they had a clicker and they had caught four

644
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 4: hundred and nine. Yeah, in one day. I mean a

645
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 4: lot of you know, of course a lot of those

646
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 4: are the small sagers, but that ends like mixed in

647
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 4: with mixed in with some really nice walleyes, and so

648
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 4: our fishing has been it's just been off the charts,

649
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 4: and you know that'll last for a little while here,

650
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 4: and then as the ice continues to grow, you know,

651
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 4: it's the same every year, we start going out farther

652
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 4: and farther out into the mud and you know, searching

653
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 4: for fresh schools of fish and everything else. But yeah,

654
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 4: it's good, it's really good right now.

655
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 2: Well, when you go out and the roads are there,

656
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 2: I've always wondered, sometimes you'll get an ice heave, and

657
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 2: some of those heaves are pretty gigantic. But how do

658
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:02,280
Speaker 2: how do you or the other guys on the team,

659
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:07,760
Speaker 2: how do they navigate that? And do they cut those

660
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 2: they rerouted? Can you heal ice?

661
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 4: Yeah? You know our ice team, you know, both Board

662
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 4: Review and Sportsmans and all the ice teams up here.

663
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 4: They are so amazing and we've shown some of that

664
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 4: on our social media. The back end work that most

665
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,439
Speaker 4: people don't see, you know, the first part of the year,

666
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 4: what happens is you have that five six inches of ice,

667
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 4: and then you get a big wind blow and the

668
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 4: ice piles up right right across from Pine Island where

669
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 4: we cross, and so it starts with chainsaws jackhammers, because

670
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 4: you can't you can't bring a big machine out across

671
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 4: four Mile Bay. You know, we see that on social

672
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,839
Speaker 4: media where people say, well, why don't you just bring

673
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 4: a skid steer out there with a multure or with it.

674
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 4: You can't do that. You can't bring You got to

675
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 4: do it with hand labor. So they're chiseling. They're using

676
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 4: chain saws, and we have these drags that we make

677
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 4: in our shop and they pull these dregs up and

678
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 4: down the ice to smooth it out. And then, you know,

679
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 4: like you said, as the ice continues to form and

680
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 4: we go through our seasons, there are seas that happen

681
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 4: and those are the most most of the time. Those

682
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 4: are the danger spots. And what we do is we

683
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 4: go in and we smooth them out. Sometimes we flood them.

684
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 4: And then we also have bridges, and we have multiple

685
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 4: different types of bridges. We have mats and then we

686
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 4: have steel bridges and they are they are so good

687
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 4: at it and they just again that they make it

688
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 4: safe for our traveling.

689
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 2: And the safety I think is a really really big deal.

690
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 2: But for a lot of people wheelhouses or something like that.

691
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 2: One of the advantages I found one I was up there,

692
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 2: am up there, is that the houses move frequently. And

693
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 2: when you get into a house from say Border Viewer Sportsman's,

694
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 2: everything's set up and do you know that you're going

695
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 2: to be in a spot that had fish or has

696
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 2: fish on it or nearby that, Jeff, is it's worth

697
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 2: its weight in gold for somebody who doesn't fish on

698
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 2: a daily basis.

699
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 4: It is. And you know, I'm all for you know,

700
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 4: to do yourselfers. Yeah, my, my, my entire life. But

701
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 4: there's a lot more work involved, in a lot more

702
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 4: variables and and what you get with a with an

703
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 4: experienced crew like Sportsman's and Board Ofview. Our houses don't

704
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 4: sit in the spot unless it's really catching fish every day.

705
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 4: They don't sit in the spot more than one or

706
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 4: two days, and they're they're moving them and that's you know,

707
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 4: that takes a full systematic approach. And and our team, well,

708
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 4: I mean we keep track of every house and the

709
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 4: number of fish that are caught out of each house

710
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 4: and they they can tell you the history of oh

711
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 4: well this this house only kept you know, eight fish

712
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 4: for the day, so we're gonna move it, you know,

713
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 4: And they that's how important it is to us. And

714
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 4: you know, like you said, the great thing is, you

715
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 4: just show up and you hop in our transportation. We

716
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 4: bring you out there. The house is pre drilled. You

717
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 4: don't have to deal with that when the wind is

718
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 4: blowing out of the Northwest and you know it's a

719
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 4: blizzard out there. You hop in a warm house. The

720
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 4: holes are open, you got bait, you got your rods,

721
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 4: and you're fishing, you know. And a lot of times

722
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 4: I even see with some of my buddies, they show

723
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 4: up and we want to go out in a snowmobile.

724
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 4: Well we pull up to the to the reef, and

725
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,720
Speaker 4: of course you're we're always a little bit late because

726
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 4: of whatever might happen. Maybe maybe Bob forgot to put

727
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 4: in gas and the snowmobile he's got to do that

728
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 4: in the morning, and then all the things right. But

729
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 4: you show up and they pull their rods out, and

730
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 4: then they got to drill their hole. Their augurs not

731
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 4: working perfect, and I mean, I'm I'm usually fishing before

732
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 4: they even get the rod out of there there rod locker.

733
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:02,240
Speaker 4: But no, it's simple, and it's and it's it's great

734
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 4: and and and that's what that's what makes you know,

735
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 4: coming up to a place like we have here, is

736
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 4: it just it's it's simple and you get enjoy the

737
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 4: actually you get to enjoy the fishing aspect of it

738
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 4: a lot more, you know, because like we said, the

739
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,439
Speaker 4: days are short and you only get so much time

740
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 4: in that fish house.

741
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 2: So Jeff, we have to we have to take a pause.

742
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 2: I've got I got a couple other comments that I

743
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 2: wanted to make, but then I want to get to

744
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 2: to fishing currently and what's going to happen in your

745
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 2: opinion or from your experiences too on the Big Lake?

746
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,399
Speaker 2: So can you can we can you stay with us?

747
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 4: Absolutely? I have a warm cup of coffee, So I'm

748
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 4: in a good movie.

749
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:46,359
Speaker 2: Oh I man after my own heart. We will take

750
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 2: that pause and we will be back with more with

751
00:44:50,560 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 2: Jeff Anderson right after this. We're back, fan outors come

752
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:08,800
Speaker 2: in your way. Uh huh. We are delighted to be here.

753
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 2: We would be my friend and guest mister Jeff Anderson

754
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:20,800
Speaker 2: from Buddet, Minnesota with uh he works with both Sportsman's

755
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 2: and border View Lodges up on Lake of the Woods,

756
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 2: and we were talking about that too, Jeff, as we

757
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 2: went to break. One of the things I wanted to

758
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 2: mention was how neat it is to be able to

759
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 2: come in with fish and off on a limit. But

760
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 2: the things that you're the guys that are taking care

761
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 2: of you take into account. One is you could have

762
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 2: fish that night and your guys will tell you how many,

763
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 2: because you have to be all set for your fishing

764
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 2: experience the next day, and then you couldn't have it

765
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 2: prepared for you at very same fish that evening and

766
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 2: have just a feast. It's so nice.

767
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 4: Well does it get any better? You caught two hours ago?

768
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 4: You come in, you know from the you know the

769
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 4: cold and the transportation. You come in, you shower that. Meanwhile,

770
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:28,760
Speaker 4: the guides are sitting there cleaning your fish, you know, professionally,

771
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 4: and they bring your fish in. You tell them that

772
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 4: I we want to keep ten fish to eat. We

773
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 4: bring it down to the kitchen. The kitchen does a

774
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 4: fabulous job getting it all breaded up. They fried up

775
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 4: in it. You walk into the bar and restaurant, have

776
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 4: a nice cold beverage and have this beautiful gold and

777
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 4: walleye that you just caught hours ago, and you can

778
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 4: sit there and like you said, feast away on. I

779
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 4: mean it as much as has many walleye flays that

780
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 4: I eat. I it's something that doesn't get too old

781
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 4: at that is for sure. Is just something special about it. Yeah,

782
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 4: we do that all and it's uh and a lot

783
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 4: of people take advantage of it because it is a

784
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 4: it's a I mean I had considered a delicacy, right,

785
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 4: and especially when it's that fresh, you know, it doesn't

786
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 4: get any better.

787
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 2: Well, also with the with people going out and and

788
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 2: doing and catching fish and things like that. But they're

789
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 2: going to go out, they're going to catch fish, but

790
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 2: they also keep an account into account what you can

791
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 2: catch the next day and what you can keep. And

792
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 2: in order to be legal, they pack your fish because

793
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 2: the license packers take care of that. All you got

794
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 2: to do is go home. But the the other thing

795
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:52,240
Speaker 2: too is they know what's going on on the lake. Now,

796
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 2: if people were going to be interested in giving a

797
00:47:56,280 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 2: gift for Christmas holiday, can they change that ahead of

798
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 2: time and uh and just give the gift to family

799
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 2: or friends or whatever.

800
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:13,959
Speaker 4: Oh, absolutely, We we do that all the time where

801
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 4: where we have you know, uh, people call and they

802
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 4: want to they want to give their relatives or you know,

803
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 4: do a family trip and they can come up and

804
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 4: or they can give us a call and and we

805
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 4: we put together a package for them that fits their

806
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 4: exact needs. And uh, they they get the package and

807
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 4: they can give it for a gift. Yeah, and if

808
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 4: they just go to Sportsmen's Lodges or boarder view Lodge

809
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 4: dot com. Both both operations offer that and we uh,

810
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 4: we would love we would love for that to be

811
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 4: a Christmas gift for for somebody that that uh, that

812
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 4: wants to come up and experience all the things that

813
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,879
Speaker 4: we just talked about. And it's a special place up here,

814
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 4: that is for sure. And you know, we we don't

815
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 4: take lately. The travel comes with it, you know, that's

816
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 4: it's a little bit of a journey, but it's a

817
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 4: beautiful drive and once you get up here, it's it's

818
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 4: it makes the trip worth it.

819
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:15,240
Speaker 2: The other thing, Jeff, I'll never forget this. I'm dressed

820
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 2: in ice armor and we get in the actually a

821
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 2: little little trader and I didn't know what was going on,

822
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 2: but I'm getting out and we're gonna get in the trainer,

823
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 2: and I looked over. There's a guy in shorts and

824
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 2: short sleeve crawls into the trader and I have got

825
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 2: all this clothes on, and he didn't just yeah, okay,

826
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 2: smiles at me and smile him back, and before long

827
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:46,760
Speaker 2: we're talking, and it turns out he was no stranger

828
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 2: going up, but he had come from the South and

829
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 2: used to that. But he's used to coming up too.

830
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 2: And it turns out I didn't need to have ice

831
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 2: armor on, Jeff, I didn't need that. I could have

832
00:49:58,239 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 2: wore blue jeans and a t shir.

833
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 4: Sure, that is true. I always it is always my

834
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:09,359
Speaker 4: because I'm an over preparer. I always recommend to having

835
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 4: you know, at least long underwear and jeans on, just

836
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 4: in case something happens it's a big lake, and whether

837
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 4: you have a flat tire on a trailer and you

838
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 4: got to switch trailers, you might have to go outside

839
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 4: in the colds for a little bit, or you know,

840
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 4: we have a bottomer that breaks down and you know

841
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 4: we're twenty miles north. You know, I always say I

842
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 4: always be prepared. But yeah, that's the great part about it. You.

843
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 4: You don't have to have all the things you know

844
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 4: that come along with it. If you just want to

845
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 4: see what ice fishing is all about and want to

846
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 4: get and experience it, you you can just show up.

847
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 4: You just need a fishing license and a big smile

848
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 4: on your face. Ye. And well it's that simple. And no,

849
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 4: you don't need you don't have to have you know,

850
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 4: ice arm or bibs or anything else. You can show

851
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 4: up in shorts it as long as you make it

852
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 4: a little cold. If you got to switch trainl that

853
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 4: that doesn't happen, you're not outside for very long.

854
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 2: All right, fishing yesterday and today an end of the

855
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,359
Speaker 2: future on the lake? What's going on?

856
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean we we had a pile of fish

857
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 4: that that we're up tight, you know, close to the

858
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:22,359
Speaker 4: shoreline by Pine Island. We had a great uh river

859
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 4: fishing this fall. And there's a direct correlation with with

860
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 4: you know, the conditions of the lake with how good

861
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 4: our fishing is. And what I mean by that is,

862
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 4: you know, water clarity we had, Like I said, we

863
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 4: had really good water clarity. Low. We didn't have a

864
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,760
Speaker 4: bunch of current because the water was down in this fall,

865
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 4: and so that set up our river fishing to be

866
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:46,439
Speaker 4: really good in the fall, and then it just leads

867
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 4: into leads into our first ice fishing, our early ice fishing,

868
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 4: and then you know, like I said, as as the

869
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 4: you know, we like to stay as close as we can,

870
00:51:57,239 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 4: right because it's less travel and it's just easier on everybody, customers,

871
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 4: guides and equipment. But as as you know, those fish,

872
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:10,280
Speaker 4: uh you know, get caught and beat up those schools

873
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,439
Speaker 4: of fish, then we didn't we go out on the hunt.

874
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 4: And that's one of the things our guides love doing.

875
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 4: You know, they lay like going out on the hunt.

876
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 4: It's a big basin and those fish will spread out.

877
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 4: You either chase those schools down or you find new

878
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 4: schools the fish and this lake is it is, it

879
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,319
Speaker 4: is just unbelievable to me. I mean the amount of

880
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 4: pressure that that it gets, you know, all summer and

881
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 4: all winter, but it continues to produce great fishing. And

882
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 4: that that's the Lake of the Woods is a little

883
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 4: bit unique in the sense that you know, the ice fishing.

884
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 4: You know, if you're going to fish walleyes on most lakes,

885
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 4: you know in Minnesota that that walleye bite is the

886
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:54,760
Speaker 4: first hour morning, in the last hour, uh in the evening.

887
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 4: And that's just that's just what it is, because those

888
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,839
Speaker 4: walleys like to bite that at those times, that's when

889
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,760
Speaker 4: they're they're feeding. We have you know, the Sager bite,

890
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 4: and and it keeps you busy. You get a look

891
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,839
Speaker 4: at them on the graph and and quite frankly, if

892
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:12,280
Speaker 4: you're just looking to eat fish, that fifteen inch sager

893
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:14,319
Speaker 4: is the one that I'm choosing to eat, you know.

894
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 4: And and then of course you get those those straggler

895
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 4: big walleys that that swims through and a lot of

896
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 4: times as the season progresses, they're they're the suspended ones.

897
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 4: So that's where electronics play play a key role. And

898
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 4: but yeah, that's that. It's it's pretty much the same

899
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,839
Speaker 4: every year, how the fish move and and how they

900
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:38,399
Speaker 4: go on. And then of course presentations, you know, it's

901
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 4: always we call it the one two punch, right. You

902
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:42,839
Speaker 4: have your set line or your bobber line, and then

903
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,760
Speaker 4: you have your jigging line. And sometimes that set line

904
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 4: is the one that's catching the fish. And then sometimes

905
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 4: they they want it aggressive. And and you've heard me

906
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 4: talk about you know, jigging cadence and and and the

907
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 4: art of triggering strikes and bites and everything else. But

908
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 4: for the most part, these fish on in the woods.

909
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 4: If they show up on the graph and you have

910
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:06,359
Speaker 4: a you have a you know, a drop pg jig

911
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 4: which is one of my favorites down there for my

912
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 4: set line and a and a middle swimming around down there,

913
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 4: they're going to bite it.

914
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,320
Speaker 2: If you've got your own equipment or if you don't

915
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 2: have equipment, can if your own stuff is that is

916
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 2: that as suggested? Or if you need equipment, can you

917
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 2: get it up there?

918
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 4: Yeah? Absolutely, yep. If you have your own bring it along.

919
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 4: If you don't, we will. We got you covered. So

920
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 4: we always encourage either or.

921
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 2: Okay, And as the as the winter goes on, what

922
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 2: do you do as far as the houses, do they

923
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 2: go further out? Do they split up? How are you

924
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 2: how do you handle that?

925
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:49,479
Speaker 5: Yeah?

926
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:52,359
Speaker 4: So, typically, like I said, we're close and then we'll

927
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 4: get out as far as we have to go. And

928
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 4: there's times where it's twenty miles out and then you know,

929
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 4: through January and February and quite frank you know, we

930
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:03,799
Speaker 4: get a lot of people that are waiting by the

931
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:06,760
Speaker 4: phone and wait watching our social media for ice conditions,

932
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 4: and then of course they book right now and they

933
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:10,919
Speaker 4: want to get up here on this early ice bite,

934
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:13,840
Speaker 4: which for good reason. It's it's it's off the charts,

935
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 4: you know. And then as we get into January, we

936
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 4: continue to go out farther and farther. But over the

937
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 4: last several years, are some of our most consistent and

938
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 4: best fishing have come in February and so and I

939
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 4: just think it's because we get out in that middle

940
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 4: of the mud and we find these schools, because we're

941
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 4: all off by our own then because everybody's kind of

942
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:37,919
Speaker 4: condensed now you know, we're all pretty close to each

943
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 4: other because just because of the ice and how it's

944
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:44,280
Speaker 4: set up, and as the ice forms it just opens

945
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 4: up more acres of ice for us to explore. And

946
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 4: so yeah, I would if you call and you want

947
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 4: a week in January, it's going to be pretty tough

948
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:57,360
Speaker 4: right now to find the spot. But if you can't

949
00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:00,720
Speaker 4: find a spot in January, February and even in the March,

950
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:04,239
Speaker 4: like I said, are our most consistent, some of our

951
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 4: most consistent action has come in those months the last

952
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 4: few years.

953
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 2: Excellent. That's that's way cool. So when you're going further

954
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 2: and further out is obviously twenty miles. That's a long haul, Jeff.

955
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 2: How far do you have to go to get to uh,

956
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 2: what's the the island out there that's a destination for

957
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:28,320
Speaker 2: a lot of people.

958
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I mean it is a it is a

959
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 4: long it is a long drive, right, but you know,

960
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 4: you get up, you get up by stair and shoals

961
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 4: and and you know, the big island and you know

962
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 4: some of our some of our places head over to

963
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 4: Stony you know that area, and you know, so there's there,

964
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:54,360
Speaker 4: there's again, it just opens up, opens up so so

965
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 4: many opportunities. Once you get that a little bit thicker ice,

966
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 4: you can explore more. And you know, and there's a

967
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 4: lot of resorts up here, which is great. And we

968
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 4: just we just kind of all respect each other. We

969
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,879
Speaker 4: all have our areas early and then as the as

970
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,239
Speaker 4: the season progresses, you know, we just kind of all

971
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 4: go out on our own and we keep our pods

972
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 4: of fish houses together and and and go explore and

973
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 4: and then of course it's this whole systematic approach to

974
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:23,479
Speaker 4: you know, our ice teams are I just I'm I'm

975
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 4: so impressed every year just watching how systematic they are,

976
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 4: and how they move the houses. This role gets moved

977
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 4: and it's like a a leap frog effect, you know.

978
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 4: They they have a roll of houses here and then

979
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 4: that's the closest one, and then they move the closest

980
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 4: one beyond the farthest one, and it's just this uh,

981
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 4: this big giant leap frog. And then sometimes we got

982
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 4: to move three miles, you know, to find more fish.

983
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 4: So we we have scouts that go out and they

984
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 4: look and you know, it's a tough job. You got

985
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 4: to go out and fish a little bit, but you know,

986
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 4: but they they enjoy doing it and and it's a

987
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 4: it's an a important thing, you know, to go out

988
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 4: and scout. You can't just move your house and I

989
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 4: expect to catch fish.

990
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jeff, we're out of time, my friend. But I

991
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 2: would like to take just a moment to wish you,

992
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 2: your family and and all the guys up there are

993
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 2: very merry Merry Christmas and happy New Year or two.

994
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 4: Okay, always an honor. Merry Christmas to everybody. Enjoy your families,

995
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 4: give them a big hug and come up here and

996
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 4: set the hook with that.

997
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 2: There you go, Thanks Jeff, take care of buddy. Thanks guys,

998
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 2: that's Jeff Anderson up at Border View and Sportsman's Lodge.

999
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:37,840
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1000
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 2: a bucket list trip. It is a bucket list and

1001
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 2: you will enjoy it. We'll take a pause and we'll

1002
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 2: be back well right after this with more Fan Outdoors

1003
00:58:48,840 --> 00:59:05,760
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1004
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:11,160
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1005
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:14,360
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1006
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1007
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:24,439
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1008
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:29,520
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1009
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1010
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1011
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:43,240
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1012
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:48,800
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1013
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 2: staff of Shields and a pro staff member of Clam Outdoors. Tony,

1014
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 2: Good morning.

1015
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 5: Sir, Good morning. How are you today?

1016
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 2: Not too bad, buddy, not bad at all? Is it

1017
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 2: still winter up at your house?

1018
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 4: Oh?

1019
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 5: You know, I thought we were gonna sneak away with

1020
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 5: a few warm days and then they throw the cold

1021
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 5: right back at us. You do got cold and snow

1022
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 5: and lots of ice is being made.

1023
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 2: Well, how much ice have you got so far?

1024
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 5: You know, honestly it does vary some, but I'm pretty

1025
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 5: confidence saying, I mean, seven inches is about as little

1026
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 5: as I found on a couple of the lakes. You know,

1027
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 5: some of these lakes even ten to twelve inches. And

1028
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 5: people are starting to use four wheelers, snowmobiles. Even seen

1029
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 5: a few pickups out, which I think is a little.

1030
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no.

1031
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 5: We are making ice.

1032
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm all for making ice, but I ain't for

1033
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 2: driving out it yet. That's you know, no, when turning

1034
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 2: your truck into an anchor is not a good plan,

1035
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 2: that one I'm subscribe to.

1036
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 5: So yeah, we are making ice, but it still varies

1037
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 5: quite a bit, but you don't give it. A couple

1038
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 5: more weeks and I think we'll be safe and we'll

1039
01:00:57,400 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 5: be good to go.

1040
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 2: All right, you're the deer season for us has wound down.

1041
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 2: There's not much left for you up there either, unless

1042
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 2: it's archery.

1043
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 5: Nope, everything's kind of wound down here. You know. We

1044
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 5: hunted out Southamba Midge. We saw a few deer, but

1045
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 5: definitely heard the wolves and had a lot of impact

1046
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 5: from the wolves in the area. So deer were certainly

1047
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 5: not as plentiful. But you know, as we've said before,

1048
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 5: it's about being out there and spending time with family

1049
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 5: and friends, and we had a great time, even though

1050
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 5: we are going to be eating tag soup this ward.

1051
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 2: Did you notice any grouse when you're out there, because

1052
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 2: I know you will hunt grouse too.

1053
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 5: Yep, lots of grouse.

1054
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 2: You know.

1055
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:45,439
Speaker 5: I didn't see as many this year during the dura

1056
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 5: grouse season. I was actually targeting them as I have

1057
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 5: the last two I think. I mean, I think two

1058
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 5: years ago I shot seventeen on our property and last

1059
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 5: year was like eleven. This year I only had four

1060
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:59,439
Speaker 5: or five. But during deer season, especially after the snow flu,

1061
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 5: we had growl us all over. I saw, you know, five,

1062
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 5: six of them at a time in places, and so

1063
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 5: there's definitely a few birds still around.

1064
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:11,480
Speaker 2: Well that's that's good because the cyclical nature. I don't

1065
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 2: know if that's true or not, but everybody talks about it.

1066
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 2: They were expecting kind of a more down season for grouse,

1067
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 2: and it's it's not about numbers it's about, like you

1068
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:25,919
Speaker 2: said earlier, it's about the experience. And there's something about

1069
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 2: a grouse flush that's pretty cool.

1070
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 5: Oh when they jump out in front of you right

1071
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 5: in the morning as you walk into your deer stand.

1072
01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:34,000
Speaker 5: I don't care how many times you experience it. Your

1073
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:37,440
Speaker 5: heart stops and stuff a little squeal.

1074
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 2: Oh it does. It just kind of steals your breath, buddy.

1075
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 2: Just yeah. So house Fish and Ben.

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01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 5: You know, it's been really good. We've been basically targeting

1077
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 5: or mainly targeting pantherish, the crappies and the bluegills, which

1078
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:57,439
Speaker 5: is is what I typically do. I've only spent one

1079
01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 5: night out here for walleyes, but I'm gonna be heading

1080
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 5: the north of the border very soon to check out

1081
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 5: a little bit of walleye fishing. But for here, the

1082
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 5: pan fisher king and they are being cooperative. They're just

1083
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 5: a little bit trickier to track down right now than

1084
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 5: they are typically this time of year.

1085
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 2: What why is that? Is it the time of year, Tony,

1086
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 2: or is it something else?

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01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 5: You know, I think it had to do it has

1088
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:26,440
Speaker 5: to do something with how the water tempts were and

1089
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 5: you know, we kind of we kind of held off

1090
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:30,920
Speaker 5: a long time before freezing, and then we had that

1091
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 5: snow that kind of cooled things down, and then it

1092
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 5: started freezing, and I think the water was a lot

1093
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 5: warmer this year than than typical when we were when

1094
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 5: we started freezing up. And what I'm finding is a

1095
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:45,880
Speaker 5: lot of these fish that typically I can catch up

1096
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:48,440
Speaker 5: in the weeds, you know, right away, they're not quite

1097
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 5: in the weeds yet they're still out on the deeper waters,

1098
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 5: whether it's a basin, you know. I think we've talked

1099
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:57,520
Speaker 5: a lot about basin bikees and based fish, the fisher

1100
01:03:57,560 --> 01:04:00,360
Speaker 5: in those deep holes, but they're also on some of

1101
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 5: the weed bites where I typically find them in the weeds.

1102
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 5: They're kind of adjacent to the weeds, still out in

1103
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:07,960
Speaker 5: deeper water I'm talking. I mean even up to thirty

1104
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 5: five thirty seven feet where a lot of these crappies

1105
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:11,120
Speaker 5: are hanging out.

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01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:18,440
Speaker 2: Wow. I've listened to people talk in the past about

1107
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:21,720
Speaker 2: how the early in the season the fish will be

1108
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:26,200
Speaker 2: more shallow into the weeds, but then as the season

1109
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 2: goes on, they're moving out to the basin. But then

1110
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:32,440
Speaker 2: there's another school of thought that I'm hearing more recently

1111
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:36,480
Speaker 2: about fishing the weeds, because there are people that believe

1112
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 2: those fish are going to stay once they get there,

1113
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 2: they're going to stay in the weeds all winter long.

1114
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:45,840
Speaker 2: I guess which one do you subscribe to? If either one,

1115
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 2: maybe neither.

1116
01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 5: You know, a kind of a combination. I think a

1117
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 5: lot of times, once the fish are in the weeds,

1118
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:55,680
Speaker 5: both sunfish and crappies, I think they use them a lot,

1119
01:04:55,800 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 5: especially if those weeds are healthy and they're alive. And

1120
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:03,960
Speaker 5: I do think crappies are more apt to slide out

1121
01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 5: over a basin and kind of hang out there. I

1122
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 5: think that's a lot of times where the minnows go

1123
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 5: and they're foraging, those where the safety of the weeds

1124
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:14,600
Speaker 5: kind of allows them to stay there as long as

1125
01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 5: they's food present, they don't really have a reason to leave.

1126
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:19,640
Speaker 5: And those are beyond the lake field that I consider

1127
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:21,600
Speaker 5: more of a weed lake, in a basin lake where

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01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:23,800
Speaker 5: there's maybe just weeds around the edges and it turns

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01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 5: into a deep bowl. A lot of times I don't

1130
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:28,600
Speaker 5: think that those fish ever really get up to the

1131
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 5: weed line. They just kind of roam that basin and

1132
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 5: they're content for the winter to hang out there.

1133
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 2: Well, I know, if we go, and we just talked

1134
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 2: with Jeff Anderson a little bit ago. But I know

1135
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 2: on Lake of the Woods a lot of the times

1136
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 2: people will lean on and fish the frozen emerald shiners.

1137
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 2: Do you ever fish with anything like that around home

1138
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:54,000
Speaker 2: or do you ever fish with frozen bait around home?

1139
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:57,120
Speaker 2: Or is it primarily artificials.

1140
01:05:57,440 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 5: I'm a primarily artificial just soft plaif or waxworms. If

1141
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 5: it's going to be a tough fighter, I from taking

1142
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 5: people out. I have a lot of confidence in wax rooms.

1143
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 5: And you know, a lot of the fish I'm fishing for,

1144
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 5: you know, they're not gonna They're probably not going to

1145
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:13,440
Speaker 5: be real excited about a great, big emerald chiner. There

1146
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:16,000
Speaker 5: are times when I'll use a crappy minnow or even

1147
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:18,959
Speaker 5: a fat head for crappies during the winter, especially later

1148
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 5: on when when I know they're in those basins and

1149
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:24,160
Speaker 5: they're feeding heavily on minnows. Then then I will use

1150
01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 5: live minnows at times. But for the most part, we're

1151
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 5: fortunate we can get away with soft plastics or waxworms.

1152
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 2: Well, what's your thought about the weather? The fronts that

1153
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 2: come through, and they seems like they come through the

1154
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 2: different ones are coming through every day, even this last summer.

1155
01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 5: You know, there there are several trains of thought of that.

1156
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 5: When it's cold and miserable and a big cold turn's

1157
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 5: coming through, a lot of times I don't feel like

1158
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 5: going out there and sitting and being miserable, especially as

1159
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:56,320
Speaker 5: I'm getting older. But you know, there are guys you

1160
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:59,040
Speaker 5: have to remember, there are guys that do this every

1161
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:01,880
Speaker 5: single day. Yeah, I have to find fish, and so

1162
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 5: those fronts I think a lot of times they can

1163
01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:07,640
Speaker 5: affect the fish, and they certainly do, but a lot

1164
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:09,720
Speaker 5: of times I think they affect the fishermen and you're

1165
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:11,560
Speaker 5: just not wanting to go out there and put in

1166
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:14,200
Speaker 5: the work or the grind that it takes to be successful.

1167
01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:17,439
Speaker 5: If you're willing to do the work, I am very

1168
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:20,720
Speaker 5: confident that you can always catch fish somewhere on every

1169
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:21,320
Speaker 5: day of the week.

1170
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:26,040
Speaker 2: Well, I'm of the same ilk Tony, because if I

1171
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:29,680
Speaker 2: wake up and it's really nasty out, I'll just tell

1172
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:33,520
Speaker 2: myself self, you're just not that mad at him anymore.

1173
01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:39,320
Speaker 2: It's okay, And absolutely it's supposed to be fun.

1174
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 5: But my great story was it wasn't that long ago.

1175
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 5: I got up at four thirty and I headed out,

1176
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:50,080
Speaker 5: you know, and it was windy and the snow was

1177
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:52,000
Speaker 5: coming down, and I made it about a block from

1178
01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 5: home and turned around and I went right back to

1179
01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:57,560
Speaker 5: the garage and came in. I crawled into bed and said,

1180
01:07:57,560 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 5: it's freezing out there. And my wife said, I know,

1181
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:02,160
Speaker 5: can you believe my husband's a fishing in this stuff?

1182
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 5: I don't know who he was talking to, but.

1183
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:10,440
Speaker 2: It worked. Whatever it was.

1184
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:14,880
Speaker 5: It's I just I'm I'm becoming more and more of

1185
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:18,519
Speaker 5: a fair weather fan. Seasons long, and I have got

1186
01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:20,760
Speaker 5: plenty of time to get out there when the when

1187
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:21,639
Speaker 5: the weather's favorable.

1188
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:25,679
Speaker 2: What about color? Everybody asks about color, and I don't

1189
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:28,160
Speaker 2: know if there's a consensus at all about it.

1190
01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:32,679
Speaker 5: Again, I think so much of this objective. I fished

1191
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:34,599
Speaker 5: with the multimbers, you know that say you have to

1192
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:39,760
Speaker 5: use the the not it's the only way you're going

1193
01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:43,679
Speaker 5: to catch fish, you know, like the top throw any

1194
01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:47,280
Speaker 5: color wanted, as long as the and I find that

1195
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 5: for panfish, I tend to use white, probably more than

1196
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:55,040
Speaker 5: any other color. But there's no real scientific basis for this.

1197
01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 5: It's just what I have the most of in my

1198
01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:00,360
Speaker 5: taco box. And it seems to work. If if I

1199
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:03,320
Speaker 5: can find fish, I feel like I can usually get

1200
01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:06,960
Speaker 5: them to bite on something. I mean it's changed the profile,

1201
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 5: but I think more profile or you know, uh drop,

1202
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:14,559
Speaker 5: the way that the drop does things like that, or

1203
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 5: the fall rate, I think that depends more than color.

1204
01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 4: To me.

1205
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:20,920
Speaker 2: I'm I'm a firm believer, Tony. And our guest is

1206
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:26,360
Speaker 2: Tony Marriotti from the Detroit Lakes Areas, which where we're talking,

1207
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:31,559
Speaker 2: and I'm a firm believer Tony in confidence, confidence in

1208
01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:35,160
Speaker 2: a bait. If an angler has that, no matter open water,

1209
01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 2: on the ice or anything else. Confidence is crucial. Now

1210
01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 2: if you can have confidence a whole bunch of stuff.

1211
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:47,400
Speaker 2: But there's there's one bait that usually trips somebody's trigger.

1212
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:52,960
Speaker 5: Mentally, I wholeheartedly agree, and that's what you'll find is

1213
01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:56,519
Speaker 5: typically tied on my rods. It might might be a

1214
01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:59,559
Speaker 5: jig that you know very few people consider it their

1215
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:02,519
Speaker 5: go to. But I like that duck bill drop. I

1216
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:06,240
Speaker 5: like the horizontal presentation versus a vertical and I have

1217
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 5: a ton of confidence in that bait. So I do

1218
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:11,840
Speaker 5: fish it a lot, and I think, you know, other

1219
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:14,000
Speaker 5: people might not like it. The way I do, but

1220
01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:17,160
Speaker 5: I just have confidence that fish are going to eat it.

1221
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:20,519
Speaker 5: It has a beautiful profile, and when it's down there,

1222
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:23,479
Speaker 5: for whatever reason, I seem to catch larger fish on

1223
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:25,120
Speaker 5: that particular profile bait.

1224
01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 2: And that that should be a word to the wise

1225
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:34,000
Speaker 2: for listeners too, because if you're if you fish something

1226
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:38,080
Speaker 2: and with you put it on for a minute or

1227
01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:41,559
Speaker 2: maybe two minutes, and then at working go to something

1228
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:45,559
Speaker 2: else by you're retying and putting something else on, or

1229
01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:48,040
Speaker 2: just picking up a different rod and going to it.

1230
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 2: But the time often you're spending doing that to make

1231
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:59,559
Speaker 2: those switches and changes are times that you potentially could

1232
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:01,840
Speaker 2: be saying fish that are coming through.

1233
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:05,880
Speaker 5: Yep. And you know a lot of times we just

1234
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:08,720
Speaker 5: overthink it. You know, there is anybody in the business

1235
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:12,439
Speaker 5: better at just grinding it out than Jason Mitchell. I

1236
01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:14,920
Speaker 5: fished Jason quite a bit, and there are days where

1237
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:17,759
Speaker 5: I'm strapped or I'm trying to get him on some fish,

1238
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:20,120
Speaker 5: or we're doing this, and he is one to just

1239
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:22,680
Speaker 5: grind it out and says, you know what, they're just

1240
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 5: give them time. It's just they're going to go. Just

1241
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:28,840
Speaker 5: give it time, and he's patient. He grinds it he

1242
01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:32,000
Speaker 5: has confidence in the baits we're using, and somehow it

1243
01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:34,599
Speaker 5: always manages to come together. And I think it's because

1244
01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:37,840
Speaker 5: he just he puts in the effort when other people

1245
01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:41,280
Speaker 5: might have given up or like you said, keep switching lures,

1246
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 5: keep moving around, keep doing things, And there's a time

1247
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:46,000
Speaker 5: and place for that. But there's also a time and

1248
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:49,400
Speaker 5: place to just know that what I'm using works. It's

1249
01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:50,559
Speaker 5: just a matter of time.

1250
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:54,120
Speaker 2: Well, and Jason is the old guide in him comes

1251
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:54,639
Speaker 2: out too.

1252
01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:55,519
Speaker 5: Yep.

1253
01:11:57,120 --> 01:11:59,479
Speaker 2: That man has guided a lot of people with a

1254
01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:04,320
Speaker 2: lot of fish long before he was a media type

1255
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:08,599
Speaker 2: of person too, because he tells the story often about

1256
01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:11,519
Speaker 2: being from the Devil's Lake area and his youth and

1257
01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:15,519
Speaker 2: things that he has done. So it's yeah, you better

1258
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:19,439
Speaker 2: listen to listen to people that know him well or

1259
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:23,320
Speaker 2: have been with him extensively, or just listen to him.

1260
01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:28,080
Speaker 2: I think that's a really big deal. So we're we're

1261
01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:32,040
Speaker 2: gonna take a pause soon. But when we do, I

1262
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:35,720
Speaker 2: know you were telling me you have a trip coming up, too,

1263
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:39,639
Speaker 2: So let's take that pause and when we come back,

1264
01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:43,000
Speaker 2: love to talk to you about where you're going, what

1265
01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:45,840
Speaker 2: you're going to do, if you've been there, what do

1266
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:49,679
Speaker 2: you expect you? What do you bring? All those things? Okay,

1267
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:55,240
Speaker 2: perfectly wonderful. Tony Marriotti is our guest. Fan Outdoors is

1268
01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:59,639
Speaker 2: our show. You are our guests too, So we will

1269
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:23,680
Speaker 2: be right back with more after this. I know our

1270
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:26,840
Speaker 2: producer is going to look for me to begin this

1271
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:35,840
Speaker 2: segment with well but all right, Well, it is the

1272
01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:39,240
Speaker 2: last segment of Fan Outdoors. It's a lengthy one, but

1273
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:42,160
Speaker 2: that's always good because we enjoy being with you, and

1274
01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:46,880
Speaker 2: our guest is no stranger to Fan Outdoors and no

1275
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:50,760
Speaker 2: stranger to yours truly either, because Tony Marriotti is a

1276
01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:54,960
Speaker 2: veteran in the outdoors and many many pursuits, and he

1277
01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:57,960
Speaker 2: has been with us for a segment. If you missed it,

1278
01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:00,679
Speaker 2: you need to podcast it because it will be up

1279
01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:05,559
Speaker 2: on the OOH website and you can grab that shortly

1280
01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:09,600
Speaker 2: after we conclude. Tony, I know that you told me

1281
01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:12,400
Speaker 2: you were and you just mentioned it too. You are

1282
01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:18,200
Speaker 2: heading north of the border for Christmas? Now, what is

1283
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 2: the the the draw to go into the Canada area

1284
01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:25,560
Speaker 2: for Christmas?

1285
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:30,320
Speaker 5: Oh, It's one of my favorite places to be and

1286
01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:35,839
Speaker 5: I was fortunate to marry a Canadian woman who typically

1287
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:38,120
Speaker 5: we've gone. We kind of do Christmas here one year

1288
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:40,840
Speaker 5: and then up in Canada and with kids being in

1289
01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:44,040
Speaker 5: sports and getting busy and COVID, we haven't been back

1290
01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:48,680
Speaker 5: for Christmas since twenty nineteen. Oh my, this year is

1291
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:52,160
Speaker 5: Christmas in Saskatoon. You know, it was about six seven

1292
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:56,519
Speaker 5: years ago that I went up to Tobin Lake right

1293
01:14:56,600 --> 01:15:00,439
Speaker 5: before Christmas and was really fortunate to catch my four

1294
01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:03,640
Speaker 5: biggest wall I ever through the ice. We got it on,

1295
01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:07,680
Speaker 5: you know, on across the ice belt series and we

1296
01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:10,080
Speaker 5: caught those fish and my wife warned me, if you're

1297
01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:14,320
Speaker 5: not home by Christmas, I will beat you. And we

1298
01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:17,599
Speaker 5: were back. So this year, the whole family's going up

1299
01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:22,800
Speaker 5: and we are staying at my sister in law's boyfriend

1300
01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:27,320
Speaker 5: fiance's place on Last Mountain Lake. And Last Mountain Lake

1301
01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:29,479
Speaker 5: is a lot like Tobin in the fact that it's huge.

1302
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:33,160
Speaker 5: It's almost sixty I think it's sixty miles long. Oh,

1303
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:36,800
Speaker 5: and it is just a glacial lake in the middle

1304
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:40,719
Speaker 5: of Saskatchewan, where Tobin Lake's only forty five miles long,

1305
01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:43,519
Speaker 5: and we managed to find some good ones there. I'm

1306
01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:45,960
Speaker 5: going to be looking for the same kind of areas

1307
01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:49,400
Speaker 5: on this Last Mountain Lake and we're going to try

1308
01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:53,400
Speaker 5: to replicate my last big Canadian ice fishing trip.

1309
01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:56,360
Speaker 2: Does is that called fishing memories, Tony?

1310
01:15:57,479 --> 01:16:00,479
Speaker 5: I am all about fishing memories? Do? I am just

1311
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:04,320
Speaker 5: becoming more and more common my memory. My memory isn't

1312
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:07,240
Speaker 5: as good as it once was. But then the parts

1313
01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:09,000
Speaker 5: I don't remember, I just fill in with what I

1314
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:09,800
Speaker 5: think they should be.

1315
01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:17,280
Speaker 2: I subscribe to that quite often more than I admit to.

1316
01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:21,679
Speaker 2: When you're when you're talking about the structure you're looking for,

1317
01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:26,400
Speaker 2: does it change up in the Canadian areas versus Minnesota

1318
01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:28,519
Speaker 2: or versus around home?

1319
01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:33,200
Speaker 5: You know, not really, You're dealing usually with just much

1320
01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:36,479
Speaker 5: bigger water. So what I typically am looking for is

1321
01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:39,960
Speaker 5: kind of the reservoir or the main river channels where

1322
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:43,400
Speaker 5: it gets real deep water where maybe it's the it's

1323
01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:46,160
Speaker 5: the you'll see the actual shipping lines or whatever. You know,

1324
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:49,400
Speaker 5: if you look at your lake maps, where where the

1325
01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:51,519
Speaker 5: deepest water is. And what I do is I kind

1326
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:53,040
Speaker 5: of move off to the sides and I try to

1327
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:56,280
Speaker 5: find mud basins along the edges. And so if I

1328
01:16:56,280 --> 01:16:58,720
Speaker 5: can find mud along the edges, I know a lot

1329
01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:00,200
Speaker 5: of times the fish are going to be out there.

1330
01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:03,840
Speaker 5: The Walleye specifically, and then you know, morning and evening

1331
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:06,600
Speaker 5: they're going to move up onto the shelves up a

1332
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:09,240
Speaker 5: little bit shallower as they chase the bait fish up

1333
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:12,719
Speaker 5: and down. And so that's kind of the program I'm

1334
01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:14,720
Speaker 5: looking at right now. Is I've been just kind of

1335
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:17,880
Speaker 5: looking at lake maps. I do have some people in

1336
01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:19,760
Speaker 5: the area that have given me some advice, but it's

1337
01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:22,840
Speaker 5: kind of looked for the shallow water adjacent to the

1338
01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:26,080
Speaker 5: deeper water and just kind of, you know, you head

1339
01:17:26,120 --> 01:17:28,080
Speaker 5: your bets and get out there. I'm a big fan

1340
01:17:28,120 --> 01:17:32,120
Speaker 5: of using the salted shiners there. Or actually one of

1341
01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:35,160
Speaker 5: my favorite baits is that I stop at the big

1342
01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:38,600
Speaker 5: box store and I buy a jar of shiners in

1343
01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:45,280
Speaker 5: formelde hyde, and they stink, they aren't beautiful, but they

1344
01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:47,640
Speaker 5: stay on a hook much better than a lot of

1345
01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:50,320
Speaker 5: times the salties do. So I use those a lot,

1346
01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:52,720
Speaker 5: and I'll just put you know, I might tear it

1347
01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:54,800
Speaker 5: in half and put the body on one half, or

1348
01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 5: the tail and one half and the head on the other.

1349
01:17:56,880 --> 01:18:00,599
Speaker 5: I like big jigging spoons. If I'm if I'm hunting

1350
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:02,880
Speaker 5: for fish with someone else, you know, usually one of

1351
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:04,800
Speaker 5: us will be using a jigging spoon, and another one's

1352
01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:07,720
Speaker 5: using a big search lure, but like a you know,

1353
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:10,920
Speaker 5: big rip and wrap or something like that. Psycho shad

1354
01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:13,519
Speaker 5: is a great bait to use up there, like those

1355
01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:16,680
Speaker 5: Koi colors and just kind of rip that bait and

1356
01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:20,520
Speaker 5: watch your vex Lark because when when a big Canadian

1357
01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:24,400
Speaker 5: walleye comes in, it looks like nothing else does. On

1358
01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:28,519
Speaker 5: a vaxlark, you will have a four inch light pink

1359
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:32,680
Speaker 5: just blob screaming up at your bait. And when it

1360
01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:35,920
Speaker 5: turns pink and there's four inches wide, hang on because it's.

1361
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:36,200
Speaker 4: The good one.

1362
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:40,760
Speaker 2: Well, does it have any comparison to Winnipeg, which I

1363
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:44,000
Speaker 2: know you've been on a number of times.

1364
01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:48,080
Speaker 5: Yes, I think the potential for big waalleyes is just

1365
01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:50,719
Speaker 5: as good on a lot of these lakes I don't

1366
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:54,040
Speaker 5: know about. You know, Winnipeg seems to produce the numbers

1367
01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:56,280
Speaker 5: where you can go up there and you know it's

1368
01:18:56,280 --> 01:18:58,679
Speaker 5: not uncommon to get, you know, on a weekend trip

1369
01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:02,080
Speaker 5: eight ten fish in that master angler range where I

1370
01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:05,040
Speaker 5: think a lot of these other lakes you know you're

1371
01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:07,720
Speaker 5: gonna you're gonna struggle to get a few, but the

1372
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:11,000
Speaker 5: ones you do they're just built different. They are, you know,

1373
01:19:11,240 --> 01:19:15,200
Speaker 5: if you get a thirty one incher out of you know,

1374
01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:19,280
Speaker 5: Tobin Lake or Last Mountain. I think they're just a

1375
01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:22,800
Speaker 5: little bit thicker. They're a much darker, stained water kind

1376
01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:25,559
Speaker 5: of fish rather than that that gorgeous green back with

1377
01:19:25,600 --> 01:19:28,400
Speaker 5: the gold bellies. But it's all about just hunting for

1378
01:19:28,439 --> 01:19:30,560
Speaker 5: the biggest fish and getting to spend some time on

1379
01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:32,760
Speaker 5: the ice of family and friends, and just getting to

1380
01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:33,760
Speaker 5: have a new experience.

1381
01:19:34,280 --> 01:19:38,880
Speaker 2: You does your wife's family do they enjoy fishing? Two

1382
01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:39,240
Speaker 2: of them?

1383
01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:44,200
Speaker 5: No, they are not real active in the outdoors. But

1384
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:47,840
Speaker 5: I will say they tolerate me and will accompany me.

1385
01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:51,880
Speaker 5: For example, I said, you know, really, I this is

1386
01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:54,760
Speaker 5: her trip. I'm just along to be the chauffeur. She

1387
01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:58,160
Speaker 5: wants to see family, so I I don't know if

1388
01:19:58,200 --> 01:20:01,360
Speaker 5: I can fish well. Then brother in law calls my

1389
01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:03,120
Speaker 5: wife and says, hey, you know, I think it'd be

1390
01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:05,040
Speaker 5: a great time. As Tony took me out and showed

1391
01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:08,599
Speaker 5: me how to catch walleyes out here, And when brother

1392
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:10,360
Speaker 5: in law asked, all of a sudden, it opens up

1393
01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:13,920
Speaker 5: a whole new realm of you know, yeah, Tony should

1394
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:16,280
Speaker 5: probably go take him out and try. Little does she

1395
01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:18,439
Speaker 5: know that we've been in cahoots and this is a

1396
01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:21,439
Speaker 5: well thought out plan. So I get to bring my gear.

1397
01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:25,000
Speaker 2: You are a rascal. I'm telling you that right now.

1398
01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:29,360
Speaker 5: I do what. I gotta try to sneak in as

1399
01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:32,640
Speaker 5: much fishing time as I can between hockey practices and

1400
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:35,760
Speaker 5: hockey games and work and everything else. And so yeah,

1401
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:38,560
Speaker 5: when I get an opportunity like this, I'm going to

1402
01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:40,200
Speaker 5: hedge my bets and at least throw a couple of

1403
01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:43,000
Speaker 5: rods in a ves and and maybe an augur and

1404
01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:45,160
Speaker 5: some warm clothes just so I can, you know, make

1405
01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:48,439
Speaker 5: sure we're set up in case, just in case.

1406
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:50,160
Speaker 2: Yes, you never know when you're going to have to

1407
01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:54,320
Speaker 2: stop on a lake is Yeah, I agree, Igue, you

1408
01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:59,519
Speaker 2: gotta be prepared as always. As always, With with that

1409
01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:02,679
Speaker 2: being said, when you're packing packle and you're packing rods,

1410
01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:06,280
Speaker 2: what are you going to pack? What are you going

1411
01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:06,679
Speaker 2: to bring?

1412
01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:11,040
Speaker 5: You know, plain and simple. I've got it. It's the

1413
01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:13,479
Speaker 5: only rod case I've ever phone that I love and

1414
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:16,880
Speaker 5: I use. I've got a big lakewood green back rod

1415
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:20,479
Speaker 5: case and I keep that set up.

1416
01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:22,040
Speaker 4: Year round with all my Walleye gear.

1417
01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:25,920
Speaker 5: It's got my thirty sixth inch ross Robertson rods and

1418
01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:29,080
Speaker 5: predator rods and reels. That's what I use for big fish.

1419
01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:32,680
Speaker 5: I got, you know, heavier usually braided line. I've got

1420
01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:35,160
Speaker 5: a couple of monolines, but I put on you know,

1421
01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:39,640
Speaker 5: just the fire line ice and then I'll throw on

1422
01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:46,639
Speaker 5: a maybe three foot floral carbon leader and I'll connect

1423
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:49,400
Speaker 5: to the barrel swivel and then it's pretty much big baits.

1424
01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:51,360
Speaker 5: I've got. You know, the ribbon leech spoon is one

1425
01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:54,439
Speaker 5: of my favorites because it seems like it's got a

1426
01:21:54,479 --> 01:21:57,479
Speaker 5: really slow fall rate and on some days when the

1427
01:21:57,479 --> 01:22:00,720
Speaker 5: fish want that, that bait can be phenomenal. Then I'll

1428
01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:04,599
Speaker 5: throw in you know, like the leech spoon itself, which

1429
01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:07,559
Speaker 5: is a heavier. It just has more of a straight

1430
01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:10,760
Speaker 5: darting motion, you know. It's like they usually want one

1431
01:22:10,960 --> 01:22:12,640
Speaker 5: or the other. If it's a nice day and the

1432
01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:15,719
Speaker 5: fish are aggressive, I'll be ripping those psycho shabs as well,

1433
01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:18,479
Speaker 5: So it'll just be big baits. But a lot of

1434
01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:21,519
Speaker 5: up there is just you know, having the patients where

1435
01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:24,080
Speaker 5: you're gonna have to sip. It's very seldom that I

1436
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:26,960
Speaker 5: drill right on top of fish right away, so it's

1437
01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:30,280
Speaker 5: you know, drill eight ten holes, just kind of sit

1438
01:22:30,640 --> 01:22:32,760
Speaker 5: look for a bit fish for a bit, and you know,

1439
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:34,840
Speaker 5: maybe if an hour goes by and you haven't you

1440
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:38,000
Speaker 5: fished all those holes and haven't seen anything, then go

1441
01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:40,680
Speaker 5: look for another location. But when I'm starting out on

1442
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:42,880
Speaker 5: a body water like like this last mountain that I've

1443
01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:46,519
Speaker 5: never been to, You've got sixty miles to traverse, I'm

1444
01:22:46,520 --> 01:22:48,679
Speaker 5: gonna have to just be patient, put in some time,

1445
01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:55,439
Speaker 5: and you know, usually usually we manage to stumble into

1446
01:22:55,479 --> 01:22:58,640
Speaker 5: a few. So I'm hoping that that trend continues, and

1447
01:22:58,640 --> 01:23:01,479
Speaker 5: I would love to come back on and about how

1448
01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:03,920
Speaker 5: we did and how we actually did find fish. If

1449
01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:06,360
Speaker 5: we find fish at another time, you.

1450
01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:09,800
Speaker 2: Will count on that, my friend. And with with that,

1451
01:23:10,680 --> 01:23:13,800
Speaker 2: does the lakes up that you will be on? Do

1452
01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:17,400
Speaker 2: they beat equipment up like Winnipeg is said to do?

1453
01:23:19,160 --> 01:23:23,160
Speaker 5: You know, I don't see it nearly like Winnipeg. Winnipeg's

1454
01:23:23,200 --> 01:23:27,120
Speaker 5: a different beast, you know, big Windy call it for

1455
01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:31,839
Speaker 5: a reason. It's it's just so open and it seems

1456
01:23:31,880 --> 01:23:34,000
Speaker 5: like the weather is always I mean, it comes from

1457
01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:36,439
Speaker 5: the west and the northwest and there's nothing to slow

1458
01:23:36,439 --> 01:23:39,840
Speaker 5: it down. Where a lot of these lakes in more

1459
01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:43,000
Speaker 5: like Saskatchewan. Sure, he's got a lot of you know,

1460
01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:46,080
Speaker 5: open flat country in the south, but once you kind

1461
01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:49,880
Speaker 5: of get the central and northern Saskatchewan, you have you know,

1462
01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:52,880
Speaker 5: a lot more tree covered and a lot more of

1463
01:23:52,920 --> 01:23:56,040
Speaker 5: these these deeper lakes that seem to be down in

1464
01:23:56,080 --> 01:23:57,960
Speaker 5: little holes a little bit more so you're out of

1465
01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:01,960
Speaker 5: the wind. I have not sperience anything that beats up

1466
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:03,760
Speaker 5: anything like Lake Winnipeg again.

1467
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:07,559
Speaker 2: Okay, well, okay, can we come back to Minnesota and

1468
01:24:07,680 --> 01:24:10,000
Speaker 2: we'll just bring you back and bring our listeners back

1469
01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:12,880
Speaker 2: to because there's some things I wanted to talk about

1470
01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:17,240
Speaker 2: talk about for two, people that are going to perhaps

1471
01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:21,479
Speaker 2: be heading out over the holiday breaks and the Christmas

1472
01:24:21,479 --> 01:24:23,880
Speaker 2: time where they're going to see family and things like that,

1473
01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:27,799
Speaker 2: or just making a trip to go someplace. Considering DL

1474
01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:34,880
Speaker 2: when you're considering a lake around home, what do you

1475
01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:38,599
Speaker 2: consider to pick out a lake to go to an

1476
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:42,080
Speaker 2: a particular day or a particular weekend.

1477
01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:47,920
Speaker 5: I am looking at oh, you know, for me, I'm

1478
01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:50,840
Speaker 5: looking at a lot of the stocking data. I was

1479
01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:52,479
Speaker 5: on an I fish yesterday. I fished a brand new

1480
01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:55,120
Speaker 5: like never been on it in my life, went out

1481
01:24:55,320 --> 01:24:57,600
Speaker 5: and actually I didn't even bring a rod with me.

1482
01:24:57,720 --> 01:25:00,400
Speaker 5: I simply went out with the forward facing ston and

1483
01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:03,720
Speaker 5: an auger and I just started looking around, And I mean,

1484
01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:06,920
Speaker 5: I've found some great areas. I don't think that most

1485
01:25:06,920 --> 01:25:08,840
Speaker 5: people that are coming to this area in the winter

1486
01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:11,200
Speaker 5: have the option of maybe doing a lot of research.

1487
01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:13,839
Speaker 5: They're going to go to the lake that the family

1488
01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:17,599
Speaker 5: that they're visiting is on or near. So then I say,

1489
01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:20,120
Speaker 5: you look at the lake, you look at the lake map,

1490
01:25:20,320 --> 01:25:22,720
Speaker 5: go on whatever. You can go on Google Maps, you

1491
01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:26,400
Speaker 5: can go on lake finder on Minnesota DNR. But go ahead,

1492
01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:29,200
Speaker 5: look at the map, and you have one of two

1493
01:25:29,320 --> 01:25:31,559
Speaker 5: types of lakes. It's if the lake looks like a

1494
01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:34,840
Speaker 5: big bowl or it's kind of all flat with a

1495
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:37,439
Speaker 5: couple of big bowl circles where maybe it gets down

1496
01:25:37,439 --> 01:25:41,040
Speaker 5: to you know, twenty eight thirty feet thirty five feet,

1497
01:25:41,080 --> 01:25:44,120
Speaker 5: But if very pronounced bowls. I'm going and looking for

1498
01:25:44,200 --> 01:25:47,200
Speaker 5: crappies out there. If you don't have electronics or a

1499
01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:50,840
Speaker 5: vex laarer, then I would set my line or I

1500
01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:53,120
Speaker 5: drop it to the bottom, reel up to six feet

1501
01:25:53,160 --> 01:25:55,320
Speaker 5: with one and reel up twelve feet with the other,

1502
01:25:55,960 --> 01:25:57,640
Speaker 5: and just see where those fish are at because the

1503
01:25:57,680 --> 01:25:58,720
Speaker 5: crappy should be there.

1504
01:26:00,320 --> 01:26:00,439
Speaker 4: Lake.

1505
01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:02,360
Speaker 2: Go ahead, good, no, go ahead.

1506
01:26:03,240 --> 01:26:05,080
Speaker 5: Oh, if you're looking at a lake and now you've

1507
01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:09,200
Speaker 5: got you know, weeds, and there's areas where maybe you've

1508
01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:11,519
Speaker 5: got weeds poking out and you've got deep holes, and

1509
01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:14,439
Speaker 5: you've got brakes and points and all sorts of things.

1510
01:26:14,840 --> 01:26:17,519
Speaker 5: Those are the lakes I consider weed bites. And then

1511
01:26:17,560 --> 01:26:20,280
Speaker 5: I would be going out from the shore maybe you know,

1512
01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:24,280
Speaker 5: sixty to eighty yards and drilling holes and looking down

1513
01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:27,120
Speaker 5: that hole trying to see weeds. And then I would

1514
01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:28,840
Speaker 5: try to find a little pocket in the weeds and

1515
01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:32,800
Speaker 5: I would hunker down and fish those the weeds themselves.

1516
01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:37,759
Speaker 2: And that's that. That's good advice, It really is, because

1517
01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:42,760
Speaker 2: those pockets in the weeds, holes in the weeds are

1518
01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:46,640
Speaker 2: just a magnet for fish. Because I think, Tony, I

1519
01:26:46,680 --> 01:26:51,439
Speaker 2: think that people don't keep in mind enough that fish

1520
01:26:51,479 --> 01:26:54,640
Speaker 2: are eating, and they think they don't eat in the

1521
01:26:54,880 --> 01:26:57,439
Speaker 2: in the winter time. That's wrong. They've still got it.

1522
01:26:57,600 --> 01:27:02,160
Speaker 2: They might be eating less, but they have to consume food,

1523
01:27:02,840 --> 01:27:04,559
Speaker 2: and that's where the food is going to be. It's

1524
01:27:04,560 --> 01:27:06,200
Speaker 2: an easier place to hunt.

1525
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:09,800
Speaker 5: And it's a better place to hide from predators. That

1526
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:14,000
Speaker 5: are wanting to eat them. So, yeah, weeds are Weeds

1527
01:27:14,400 --> 01:27:18,400
Speaker 5: are are key in many many lakes unless it's just

1528
01:27:18,439 --> 01:27:20,960
Speaker 5: a deep bowl. Then, like I said, look at those

1529
01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:23,880
Speaker 5: suspended fish, but look at the lake that you're going to,

1530
01:27:24,120 --> 01:27:26,320
Speaker 5: or a lake very close to where you're at, because

1531
01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:29,680
Speaker 5: in this area, you know, really in all of Minnesota,

1532
01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:32,679
Speaker 5: there aren't a lot of lakes that don't hold fish

1533
01:27:32,800 --> 01:27:36,320
Speaker 5: and don't pull catchable and capable fish. So pick a

1534
01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:37,840
Speaker 5: lake and just get out there and do it, and

1535
01:27:38,240 --> 01:27:39,800
Speaker 5: you put in a little bit of time, you will

1536
01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:40,720
Speaker 5: have success.

1537
01:27:40,960 --> 01:27:45,360
Speaker 2: Okay, Now, if you're bringing tackle to Grandma's house and

1538
01:27:45,439 --> 01:27:47,200
Speaker 2: you want it, you're going to try to get some

1539
01:27:47,240 --> 01:27:51,120
Speaker 2: fishing in. What would you bring around home around the

1540
01:27:51,160 --> 01:27:55,240
Speaker 2: Detroit Lakes area or Minnesota lakes.

1541
01:27:56,160 --> 01:27:58,800
Speaker 5: Sure, I'm a big fan of the I use a

1542
01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:02,160
Speaker 5: Jason Mitchell meat stick. Just a rod's got It's basically

1543
01:28:02,200 --> 01:28:05,080
Speaker 5: a noodle tipped rod. So I would bring a light,

1544
01:28:05,520 --> 01:28:08,840
Speaker 5: light rod with two or three pound tests if and

1545
01:28:08,920 --> 01:28:12,599
Speaker 5: for that, I would be using a small jig, probably

1546
01:28:12,600 --> 01:28:15,200
Speaker 5: tipped with either a plastic or if you haven't fished

1547
01:28:15,240 --> 01:28:17,720
Speaker 5: a lot, tip it with a waxworm and don't use

1548
01:28:17,720 --> 01:28:20,280
Speaker 5: a bobber. Just drop it down and just feel your line.

1549
01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:22,680
Speaker 5: You'll feel when a fish comes on. If you have

1550
01:28:22,720 --> 01:28:25,880
Speaker 5: a vexler or you know, something to see the fish,

1551
01:28:25,920 --> 01:28:28,280
Speaker 5: it makes it a lot easier. But it certainly we

1552
01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:30,439
Speaker 5: didn't have it for many years, so that's what I

1553
01:28:30,439 --> 01:28:32,439
Speaker 5: would use. The other thing I'd use is maybe a

1554
01:28:32,439 --> 01:28:36,599
Speaker 5: little bit stiffer rod, you know, not not like whippy

1555
01:28:36,720 --> 01:28:38,760
Speaker 5: or anything, but and not like a broom handle, but

1556
01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:42,679
Speaker 5: just a nice panfish rod. I might put a bobber

1557
01:28:42,720 --> 01:28:46,320
Speaker 5: on that one, and you know, again three four pound tests.

1558
01:28:46,840 --> 01:28:49,200
Speaker 5: Just drop it down your hole, get it to the bottom,

1559
01:28:49,280 --> 01:28:53,040
Speaker 5: lift it up six heat. If you're looking for panfish,

1560
01:28:53,360 --> 01:28:55,599
Speaker 5: set your bobber and jig with one rod and watch

1561
01:28:55,600 --> 01:28:58,400
Speaker 5: that bobber with the other, and you know you you

1562
01:28:58,479 --> 01:29:01,080
Speaker 5: will catch some fish. Not be a coppy, it might

1563
01:29:01,080 --> 01:29:03,280
Speaker 5: not be a sunfish, but they're bath rooming up there

1564
01:29:03,280 --> 01:29:05,760
Speaker 5: there or pike. You know, even walleyes come up and

1565
01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:08,439
Speaker 5: hit those things sometimes. And so it's just getting out

1566
01:29:08,479 --> 01:29:11,760
Speaker 5: there using you know, good equipment. But you certainly don't

1567
01:29:11,920 --> 01:29:13,559
Speaker 5: break the bank. It's if you get out just a

1568
01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:16,240
Speaker 5: couple of times in your head into Gramma's or Whoever's

1569
01:29:16,560 --> 01:29:18,360
Speaker 5: just look at the information on their lake. They might

1570
01:29:18,400 --> 01:29:20,559
Speaker 5: even tell you where the fish houses usually are in

1571
01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:23,960
Speaker 5: the winter. And there's nothing wrong with seeing five fish

1572
01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:26,639
Speaker 5: houses an area and go out and fish the general area.

1573
01:29:26,720 --> 01:29:29,200
Speaker 5: Don't butt up right next to them, but you don't

1574
01:29:29,479 --> 01:29:32,240
Speaker 5: head out there. And what do the people say intention anything?

1575
01:29:32,320 --> 01:29:35,280
Speaker 5: And for the most part, people are very accommodating and

1576
01:29:35,320 --> 01:29:36,840
Speaker 5: willing to answer and help you out.

1577
01:29:37,200 --> 01:29:40,560
Speaker 2: Thank you, Tony, I appreciate your time. Buddy, safe travels,

1578
01:29:40,600 --> 01:29:44,280
Speaker 2: Happy Merry Christmas, and I want to hear all about it.

1579
01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:47,639
Speaker 5: Okay, perfect Mary, Christmas, Billy, we will be in touch.

1580
01:29:47,720 --> 01:29:48,200
Speaker 5: Thank you.

1581
01:29:48,880 --> 01:29:51,479
Speaker 2: That was Tony Mariotti. Hey, I want to say thank

1582
01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:55,640
Speaker 2: you to our guest Tommy George, Jeff Anderson and Tony Mariotti.

1583
01:29:55,720 --> 01:29:59,080
Speaker 2: Thank you for allowing us to travel for Bob Blake

1584
01:29:59,680 --> 01:30:03,520
Speaker 2: Blake more my producer. I'm Billy Hillebron saying tada.