1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports station. 2 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 2: That's US. 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 3: Yes, I don't know why I've gotten as into Olympic 4 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 3: hockey as i have, and frankly, it's typically the men's side. 5 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 3: I got into a women's Olympic hockey more so this 6 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 3: year than ever before. And the United States just well, 7 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 3: that was a fun game to watch. I missed most 8 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 3: of the first period we were on the air. They 9 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 3: scored the equalizer, the time goal with just over two 10 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 3: minutes to go in regulation, then they win the game 11 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 3: in overtime. That it was a really fun sporting event. 12 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 3: It all along has felt like it was going to 13 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 3: be a collision course between the United States and Canada. 14 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 3: I don't follow women's hockey all that closely, so my 15 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 3: apologies if I'm not going to do a deep dive into, 16 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 3: you know, the the the x's and o's, so to speak, 17 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 3: or the ins and outs of the game itself. But 18 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 3: it was it was as a fun sporting event, and 19 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 3: it's always fun when the United States wins. They win 20 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 3: two to one, winning the gold and standing by to 21 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:18,759 Speaker 3: watch the gold medal ceremony. 22 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 2: That was a cool sporting event. 23 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 3: The men play Slovakia at tomorrow in one semi final 24 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 3: Canada in Finland, and the other was just talking with 25 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 3: Chad Brandle about a couple of different topics. Wes Miller 26 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 3: was one of them, and look man like, I feel 27 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 3: like the entirety of the season was always going to 28 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 3: be considered when considering what to do with him, you know, And. 29 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 2: If you're gonna be fair, you have to consider the 30 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 2: entire season. 31 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 3: So it's a an NCAA tournament or bust season. The 32 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 3: Bearcats are probably not gonna make the NCAA tournaments. As 33 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 3: fun as it is to talk about what it would 34 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 3: be like if they won the next two game twelve losses, man, 35 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 3: I got a Q four a loss like, you know, 36 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 3: it's it's fun to dream about. It's fun to talk about. Like, 37 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 3: you gotta beat some good teams. They play a bunch 38 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 3: of them here soon, starting on on Saturday. But you know, 39 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 3: talking with folks like Chad and others who cover this stuff, 40 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 3: who are around the program have often made it not 41 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 3: quite as black and white. We do a preseason preview 42 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 3: every year right before college basketball starts, and Chad joins 43 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 3: us in studio, Rick Bring joins us in studio and 44 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,679 Speaker 3: we we talk about you see and Xavier and a 45 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 3: lot of other college basketball topics and other programs and stuff, 46 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 3: But with Chad, it was, you know, okay, make or 47 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 3: break here, NCAA tournament or bust. And Chad's go to 48 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 3: from the get go has been got to see how 49 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 3: it looks got to see what it looks like. And 50 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 3: so we're gonna take the entire season into account. I 51 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 3: believe Wes if he has brought back to be the 52 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 3: coach next year, that's gonna be a tough sell for 53 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 3: a lot of people. But I also do think it's 54 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 3: it's fair to say, like we're gonna judge you how 55 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 3: you do on this season, to at least consider how 56 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,519 Speaker 3: the team has played down the stretch. How the team 57 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 3: has played down the stretch is probably not gonna make 58 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 3: anybody feel any better about the decision to bring them back, 59 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 3: if that's what they do. But there's something about this 60 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 3: that matters. And I. 61 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 2: Hate to say it because I'm a. 62 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 3: Sports fan, and you hate to be told that your 63 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 3: opinion doesn't matter, But in college athletics, rank and file 64 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 3: sports fans, like most of us, our opinions really don't matter. 65 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 3: I mean, that's like it or not how this sport works. 66 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 3: If the big money people like you, you've got more 67 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 3: of a shot than if the big money people want 68 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 3: you gone. That goes for a coach who's struggling, it 69 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 3: goes for a coach who's winning. And so, like I 70 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 3: brought these things up the Chad because I listened to 71 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 3: his podcast last night. Chad and David Simone talk about 72 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 3: Mick Cronin talk about some football stuff, but I listened 73 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 3: to the conversation about Wes Miller, and I could tell 74 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 3: this was going over like a lead balloon when they 75 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 3: were talking about it. They do a show where you know, 76 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 3: you could see the YouTube comments and stuff like that, 77 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 3: and I could tell as they were talking they were 78 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 3: hearing from people who were pissed that Chad was even 79 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 3: bringing up the possibility that Wes comes back. 80 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 2: And by the way, like I think the coolest. 81 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 3: Thing on earth would be this team plays out of 82 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 3: its mind somehow finds its way in Wes is the 83 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 3: coach moving forward and it works moving forward like that 84 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 3: scenario does not feel likely, but it would be cool. 85 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 2: But like this, this matters. 86 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 3: And this is important and it's worth considering, and it's 87 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 3: gonna make people mad, and you can apply this to 88 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 3: every program in the country. There could be a lot 89 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 3: of noise about a coach's future, and you could have fans, 90 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 3: you can even have season ticket holders who are like, 91 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 3: I want this coach gone. And this could be about 92 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 3: other sports beyond men's basketball, I want the coach gone. 93 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 3: And you can call talk shows, and you could tweet 94 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 3: your favorite podcaster, and you could lose your mind online 95 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 3: and you can decide to not go to games. The 96 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 3: reality is there's only a handful of people beyond the 97 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 3: director of athletics, and in many cases even more important 98 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 3: than the director of athletics, whose opinion really counts. And 99 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 3: so like those those are the people right in the 100 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 3: checks Like you might not like that, and hearing that 101 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 3: may make you feel powerless as a fan and as 102 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 3: a rank and file fan of every team that I 103 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 3: care about, Like, yeah, you want to feel like you've 104 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 3: got as much influence as anybody. But in college athletics, 105 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 3: some people who have a rooting interest their opinion matters more. 106 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 3: Just it's how it is, So like, all right, you 107 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 3: know what's John Cunningham gonna do? What's UC gonna do? 108 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 3: How hard of a cell will Wes b Can they 109 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 3: bring him back? Should they bring him back? All fair topics, 110 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 3: but like if if you got the big money people 111 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 3: on your side, this kind of applies to life, be 112 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 3: honest with In life, if you have big money people 113 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 3: on your side, you can go a lot further than 114 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 3: someone who doesn't. I hate to say that, but it's like, 115 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 3: tell me I'm wrong. If you got the big money 116 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 3: people on your side in life, you got a damn 117 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 3: good chance. If you don't, you don't have as good 118 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 3: of a chance. That applies to basketball coaches, it applies 119 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 3: to radio hosts, applies to a lot of people. Got 120 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 3: the coin on your side, you're good, don't got a problem. 121 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 3: So if Wes has the coin on his side, he's 122 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 3: got a better chance of surviving that I think a 123 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 3: lot of people might have believed, certainly two weeks ago 124 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 3: and maybe even today. And so look, man, whatever criticisms 125 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 3: of Wes have been out there, we've discussed, we've been 126 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 3: on board with. I do think there's something to the 127 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 3: fact that his team hasn't totally disintegrated, because two weeks 128 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 3: ago it felt like that was on the verge of happening. 129 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 3: We will see he and they can make a larger 130 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 3: case for him and team in that program by winning 131 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 3: on Saturday. We'll see see if Darren Peterson plays thirteen 132 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 3: after four o'clock. 133 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 2: And by the way, that situation with. 134 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 3: Him coming out of the game last night, not playing 135 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 3: against Arizona, not playing against Kansas's most difficult opponents. I 136 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 3: talked about this with Hunter Green earlier, like, if an 137 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 3: athlete says they're hurt, I believe them, and I think 138 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 3: we should believe them. I think we should defer to 139 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 3: the athlete. Athlete knows his or her body. I'm sure 140 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 3: there are athletes who have milked injuries, who have faked injuries, 141 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 3: who haven't done everything they can to get back on 142 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 3: the field or the court or the rank or whatever 143 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 3: it is. But as a general rule, I believe we 144 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 3: should trust the athlete and trust that they know their 145 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 3: body better than anybody else. That said, the Darren Peterson 146 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 3: thing is just strange, and you know, you watch Bill's 147 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 3: self talk about this, and you see how it's being 148 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 3: talked about among people who covered the sport, like he 149 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,559 Speaker 3: is a terrific player and he's still maybe the number 150 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 3: one overall pick in the draft, but as he gets 151 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 3: evaluated by evaluators at the next level. Like, it does 152 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 3: feel like there's a baseline level of competitiveness that he's 153 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 3: just not meeting and that should matter, man, Like that 154 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 3: that that should matter. Like I remember when the Bengals 155 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 3: drafted Cedric obwayhe he had all sorts of issues, but 156 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 3: there were rumblings like this dude likes football. There's just 157 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 3: not that level of competitiveness that a team is looking for. 158 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 3: The Bengals still took him. You know, there's there's a 159 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 3: guy here who just it feels like that game against 160 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 3: Arizona the Kansas played in, like, how do you not 161 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 3: want to play in that game? And he begged out 162 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 3: of it with the flu and after going through warm 163 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 3: ups and like, all right, fine, maybe he's like really sick, 164 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 3: and okay, maybe he just simply can't give it a go. 165 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 3: But how do you know, how are you not just 166 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 3: dying to play in that game? How are you not 167 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 3: just like you've decided to be a part of that program. 168 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 3: It's one thing if you're like, you know what, I'm 169 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 3: just not going to college and I'm gonna go to 170 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,319 Speaker 3: the NBA one i'm eligible, it's fine. But if you're 171 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 3: going to be a part of a program like that. 172 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 3: Don't you go to Kansas to play fog Allen Fieldhouse 173 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 3: in high end, high leverage Big twelve games. That story, 174 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 3: to me is beyond fascinating. And double see if he 175 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 3: plays on Saturday against the Bearcats. One other thing, and 176 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 3: I know I'm a little bit late here. We played 177 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 3: the audio of Mick Cronin yesterday, tarn can you go 178 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 3: ahead and queue that up? So this some have taken 179 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 3: this two extremes. He's being written about in the La Times. 180 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 3: Is you know, maybe it's time to move on for 181 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 3: Mick and the team is having an underwhelming season, and 182 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 3: that's maybe putting it gently. My former partner Greg Doyle 183 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 3: has written about how mean Mick Cronin is. I don't 184 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 3: know that we need to go there, but whatever, to 185 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 3: each their own. But this performance after the game on 186 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 3: Michigan State has gotten a lot of attention, and understandably 187 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 3: so because it was pretty unbecoming. 188 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 2: Taran, go ahead and play the audio. 189 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 4: What was your thoughts in the student section, channing Hooker's name, 190 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 4: I could give a. 191 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 2: Rat's ass about the other team student section. I've got 192 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 2: the overall the way that I would like to give 193 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 2: you a kudos for the worst question I've been asked. 194 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 4: All Right, did you like you should take it? Do 195 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 4: you really think I care about the other I care 196 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 4: about the Yeah, you are here, you are come on, dude, 197 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 4: no reason, Yes you were. Everybody's standing here listening to you. 198 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 4: Everybody this is on camera, they can hear you. I 199 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 4: answered the question. I could give a rat's ass about 200 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 4: the other team student section. I coach UCLA. I don't 201 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 4: care about Michigan State students. 202 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 3: We played it yesterday. Mick has taken a beating, and look, 203 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 3: he put that in the public forum. He put that 204 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 3: in the public space. When you do that, you get 205 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 3: whatever's come in your way. Mick's been criticized. I thought 206 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 3: it was a bad look. I think mis a really 207 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:18,319 Speaker 3: fun interview subject that was none of that. I think 208 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 3: an apology would be cool. I don't know if we 209 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 3: should hold our breath before he issues one. It is interesting, though, 210 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 3: this has been a year where college basketball coaches and 211 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 3: college football coaches as well have continued to just seem 212 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 3: unendingly exasperated. We've talked more about Wes Miller's post game 213 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 3: shows than we have his team. 214 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 2: At times. This year. 215 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:51,079 Speaker 3: College basketball coaches are really interesting right now, because I'm 216 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 3: not sure there's a group of people anywhere in sports 217 00:11:55,400 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 3: are otherwise who have seen their control erode like college 218 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 3: basketball coaches. I mean, think about all the things that 219 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 3: historically they've been able to control, their roster, their players, recruiting. 220 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 3: Now they're at the mercy of nil, They're at the 221 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 3: mercy of revenue sharing, They're at the mercy of their players. 222 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 3: They're at the mercy of people who can pay the players. 223 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 3: They're at the mercy of people who can fund their programs. 224 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:26,439 Speaker 3: This is not just a Mike Cronin thing. You could 225 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 3: say this about the industry collectively, and like, I don't 226 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 3: say this disparagingly, but college basketball coaches have historically had 227 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 3: a lot of control, some much. 228 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 2: More than others. 229 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 3: Some have had control over entire academic institutions. Used to 230 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 3: be a guy in Bloomington, they would say that about 231 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 3: now like this profession, which when you've gotten to the 232 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 3: top of it, has typically given you a ton of control. 233 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 3: You can control historically whether or not a player was 234 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 3: going to be clear to transfer. You could block a 235 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 3: player from going to a certain school. You can control 236 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 3: playing time and the player had to pretty much suck 237 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 3: it up and if they didn't like it, well, they 238 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 3: could transfer, but they were going to have to sit 239 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 3: out a year and you could have some control over that. 240 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 3: And now you don't really control anything. And I think 241 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 3: what's happening? And maybe this is not so much Mick, 242 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 3: but like many have said, like he has seemed agitated 243 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 3: all year, and there's a lot about this current climate 244 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 3: that a lot of coaches don't love, and understandably so. 245 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 2: But I don't know, and I make this a little 246 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 2: bit more. 247 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 3: About college basketball coaches than football coaches, but I don't 248 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 3: know that there's a group of people who have. 249 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 2: Seen more control slip away than college basketball coaches. 250 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 3: And I just feel like the collective frustration that we 251 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 3: have heard so many of them express is a reflection 252 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 3: of that twenty minutes after four o'clock. By the way, 253 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 3: I did not mention the players who scored the goals 254 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 3: for the US. So Hillary Knight is the player who 255 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 3: tied the game with just over two minutes to go 256 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 3: in third period, and Megan Keller is the player who 257 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 3: scored the way game winning goal, gold medal winning goal 258 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 3: in overtime for the US. They're doing the metal ceremony 259 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 3: right now, twenty after four o'clock, the Trey Hendrickson thing. 260 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 3: At some point we're gonna be done talking about him, 261 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 3: but we're not now because there's a way we have 262 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 3: to look at this that I think is important. We'll 263 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 3: do that next on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports. 264 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 5: Station Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty Traffic. 265 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 6: From the UC Health Traffic Center. Around forty percent of 266 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 6: cancers are preventable. Lifestyle changes and screenings can make a difference. 267 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 6: Call five one three five eighty five UCCC. On eastbound 268 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 6: two seventy five, there is an accident on the entrance 269 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 6: ramp from leveland Madeira Road off on the right side 270 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 6: of that ramp. Police are there on scene as well. 271 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 6: Another crash on eastbound two seventy five after cole rain. 272 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 6: That one moved to the right shoulder and southbound seventy 273 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 6: one slow track DAYA the four seventy one. I'm that 274 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 6: ezelic with traffic. 275 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 2: This card collector. 276 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 3: We've got an event that we're going to talk about 277 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 3: next hour, just about an hour from now, that you 278 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 3: are gonna want to be a part of this weekend. 279 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 3: Stick around for that at mullagger on Twitter. I have 280 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 3: not come up with a poll question yet. I'm woefully 281 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 3: behind Twitter feed. It comes your way thanks to Delta Dental. 282 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:28,119 Speaker 3: Delta Dental is building healthy and smart and vibrant communities 283 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 3: for all. Go to Delta dentaloh dot com. Five point 284 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 3: three seven fifteen thirty is our phone number. By the way, 285 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 3: we were talking about this on Quick Hits, So Fangrass 286 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 3: doesn't have an overly optimistic view of the Reds this season. 287 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 3: Projection has them winning seventy eight games in their simulations. 288 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 3: They've got the Reds making the postseason basically one a 289 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 3: fifth of the time, twenty percent of the time. Like 290 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 3: there is a consensus with the Reds that has. 291 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 2: Them winning. 292 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 3: Somewhere in the neighborhood of the number of games they 293 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 3: did last year, maybe a little bit less, maybe a 294 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 3: little bit more. By the way, the specific it's fang Grafts, 295 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 3: and there's Baseball Prospectus and Pacoda and zips and a 296 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 3: lot of different projection models. Fangrass projects the Reds to 297 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 3: win seventy eight point eight games. They've got the Cubs 298 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 3: winning the division projecting with eighty six wins, which I 299 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 3: think is I think illustrates the fact that, like Milwaukee 300 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 3: won it with ninety seven last year, I'd be stunned. 301 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 3: I think we all would be stunned if the NL 302 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 3: Central winner finished with ninety seven victories Pittsburgh eighty three, 303 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 3: Milwaukee eighty two point one, Cincinnati seventy eight point eight, 304 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 3: Saint Louis seventy four point nine, making the postseason twenty 305 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 3: point three percent of the time, winning the division eight 306 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 3: point nine percent of the time, winning the World Series 307 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 3: by the way point six percent of the time. The 308 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 3: Rets are gonna have to defie people like, you know, 309 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 3: the baseline level of expectation here has been, Hey, they 310 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 3: won eighty three games and made the postseason. They bring 311 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 3: back the strength of their team, which is the starting pitching, 312 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 3: and they've added to it with one bat basically in 313 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 3: a Uhaneo Suarez, And so that's gonna lend itself to 314 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 3: more success. They're gonna have to They're gonna have to 315 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 3: fly in the face of the consensus. And you know, 316 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 3: we discussed this a little bit yesterday because of our 317 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 3: guest we had on Tuesday, Derek Cardi from ESPN, the 318 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 3: betting guy. Like there's being a fan and we're most 319 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 3: of us within the sound of my voice, we're all 320 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 3: Reds fans and emotionally we want this team to win 321 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 3: the division, get to the postseason, advance in the postseason. 322 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 3: But like, would you feel comfort betting on the Reds 323 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 3: to win the National. 324 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 2: League Central. 325 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 3: If with an amount of money that really matters to you, 326 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 3: you might do it because it's just something you do 327 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 3: every year. You might do it just because it's you're 328 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 3: thinking of the payoff and there's really good value there, 329 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 3: which I think there is, Like there's still they're still 330 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 3: going to have to exceed what they were last year, 331 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 3: and what they were last year exceeds what people expect 332 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 3: from them. Often this season, there are a lot of things, man, 333 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 3: And in every sport, with every good team, a lot 334 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 3: of really good things have happened. That will be the 335 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 3: case this year if the Reds end up being really, 336 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 3: really good. But like there's we were talking about this 337 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 3: on Quick Hits, like what do you make of these projections? 338 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 3: Like huh huh. The team is largely unchanged from last year. 339 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 3: It is now are u Haaneo Soarez. That's that's that's 340 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 3: not an insignificant change at all, but is he gonna 341 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 3: hit forty nine at GABP. No, I think we're thinking 342 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 3: thirty five and thirty five will be will be terrific. 343 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 3: But you know, beyond that, there's there's not a lot 344 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 3: of like high end proven entities, and so they're gonna 345 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 3: have to defy the consensus seventy eight point eight. The 346 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 3: over under most sports books is eighty two point five. Like, 347 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:29,360 Speaker 3: I don't know how you look at them right now, 348 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 3: and maybe this changes by mid April. I don't know 349 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 3: how you look at them right now and go, yeah, man, 350 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 3: dramatically better than they were last dramatically better. But I 351 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 3: do think the ceiling for this team is relatively low. 352 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 3: But the ceiling for the National League Central is also 353 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 3: relatively low. When I say ceiling is low, like I 354 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 3: have a hard time believing they can win ninety games, 355 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 3: but I think it's fair to wonder if it's going 356 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 3: to take ninety wins to win the NL Central. We 357 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 3: will see. By the way, I'm watching the uh the 358 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 3: metal ceremony after the the women's hockey gold medal match, 359 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 3: and Canada has just gotten their silver medals. The look 360 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 3: on the players faces as they're given those silver medals 361 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:24,439 Speaker 3: is frankly hilarious and I have no ill will toward Canada. 362 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 3: None of those players want to be there, and that 363 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 3: is usually the case when you just lost a heartbreaking 364 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 3: game like the one they lost to the United States. 365 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 3: Twenty nine away from four o'clock five one, three seven, 366 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 3: fifteen thirty, we'll grab some phone calls and a few 367 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 3: thoughts on a decision the Bengals have probably already made. 368 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 3: Next on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station Cincinnati's ESPN 369 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 3: fifteen thirty traffic. 370 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 6: From the UC Health Traffic Center. 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This is ESBN fifteen thirty Moeegger. 381 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,400 Speaker 3: Thanks for listening today. Thank you for listening every day. 382 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 3: Shannon miners on hold the NKU Hall of Famer. His 383 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,439 Speaker 3: team wins last night beat Purdue four. 384 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 2: Wayne. 385 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 3: This is the time of year where Shannon starts to 386 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 3: call us to talk about his beloved I assume that's 387 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 3: what he wants to talk about. 388 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 2: Hi, Shannon, I know now, I'm well, it has been 389 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 2: a while. What's going on? 390 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 5: Then? 391 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,360 Speaker 7: You had some great seats last night at the game? 392 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 2: I did. 393 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 3: I did, scored some some really good seeds. Friend of 394 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,120 Speaker 3: mine gave them to me. It was great, Saul, saw 395 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 3: your alma mater play really really well. 396 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm excited. 397 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 8: I mean, as you know, it's getting that time of year, 398 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 8: these last few games, and hopefully they can make a 399 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 8: run here, get a get a five seed. They need 400 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 8: that five seed in order to host the game in 401 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 8: the Horizon League. They got three games up to do it. 402 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 2: Can you explain to me the Horizon League format? 403 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:36,479 Speaker 9: Like I'm in the third grade, so that there are 404 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 9: eleven teams ten eleven play each other, and then after 405 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 9: that ten plays one, nine plays two, and so on, 406 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 9: and then if you're the higher. 407 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 7: Seed, you get the host and after that you go 408 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 7: to Indianapolis. 409 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 10: And they have the rest of the tournament there and 410 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,360 Speaker 10: then it'll be on ESPN, ESPN two the Final four 411 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 10: and then the championship game, Missimi and finals. 412 00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 2: What has to happen for the North to win that event? 413 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,120 Speaker 10: I mean, I was saying they're gonna have to play 414 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 10: a lot better than than the other teams. But here's 415 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 10: the thing with the Horizon, the parody is so good. 416 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 8: I just think that like they're they're top the top 417 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 8: teams in that league they've competed with and be you know, 418 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 8: right state for that team in the league called by Oakland. 419 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 7: Right now, Detroit Mercy's ahead of them. But Detroit Mercy 420 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 7: has to play three of the top. 421 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,479 Speaker 10: Four teams in the last four games, where Anku has 422 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 10: to play some of the bottom teams, And so if 423 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 10: they can go on the road and win against Johnstown 424 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 10: State and Cleveland State, hopefully they can't get that five seed. 425 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 10: But they're you know, they're playing better now. 426 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 7: They've got two guys that we were injured. 427 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 10: Back back playing Cal Robinson who is from New Zealand, 428 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,120 Speaker 10: who came from Montana State. And then also we talked 429 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 10: last night about Eaton Elliott from Australia. He's the point guard. 430 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 8: That kind of does everything for them and is the 431 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 8: catalyst for that team. Hopefully both those guys stay injured 432 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 8: free so they can be helping here these last three 433 00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:59,919 Speaker 8: games and into the Horizon Wing Tournament. 434 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 435 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 2: Uh, this team defensively, are they good enough? 436 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 7: You know, I think the long enough My question would 437 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 7: be their death. You know, hopefully they have. 438 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 8: I think they have the best you know up there, 439 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 8: the top six guys. Uh, as long as those six 440 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:20,479 Speaker 8: guys play. I know we had talked about Donovan Oday, Uh, 441 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 8: the transfer from I think Cayl State FOURDS and. 442 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 10: You know he was coming off the bench was because 443 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 10: of injuries he's been in there and maybe he might 444 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 10: be better coming off the bench and letting Cal Robinson 445 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 10: uh start. You know last night got of n Oday 446 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 10: struggled a little bit from three point range, only making 447 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 10: one out of six. But you know, the key, like 448 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 10: I always tell you, is Ethan Elliott, the point guard. 449 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 10: You know, he had he had four assists last night, 450 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 10: only one turn and I think he's three three to 451 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 10: one ratio on the year. 452 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:50,679 Speaker 5: And his distribution to. 453 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,360 Speaker 7: The ball to his his playmakers last night was pretty good. 454 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 7: And if he should keep doing that, I think that 455 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 7: will help them out. 456 00:24:58,160 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 2: All right, So your your bullets. 457 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 3: You believe in their chances to get back to the 458 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 3: NCAA tournament by by winning an Indy. 459 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 8: That I mean, yes, yes, I think if they're at 460 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:10,640 Speaker 8: full strength, I think they have a better shot. 461 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 7: Obviously. I think once you start getting to the bench, 462 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 7: and just like anybody else, I think if. 463 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 8: You have a strong event and the more teams they have, 464 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 8: stronger benches and more players they can play, it's going to. 465 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 7: Give you a better, you know, better chance. 466 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 10: Bodies start to break down towards the end of the year, 467 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 10: so I think your bitch becomes even more important at 468 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 10: that time. 469 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 3: All right, ma'am, you've convinced me. It was fun to 470 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 3: see them play last night. You know they're two and 471 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 3: oh when I had ten games, Yeah. 472 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,159 Speaker 7: And you see three and oh when I attend their games? 473 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 2: Wow? 474 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 3: Can you be in Lawrence, Kansas? Can you be in Lawrence, 475 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:44,360 Speaker 3: Kansas on Saturday? 476 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,880 Speaker 7: I told you a few pay for me to fly there. 477 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 10: I'll go so they can be four and out. 478 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 3: I understand, well, I'll I'll have to tap into a 479 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 3: stely Look what my, my, my, travel budget is all right. Well, 480 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 3: congratulations to the Norris for the win. It's almost March. 481 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 3: The Norse are judged by how they do in the 482 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 3: Horizon League tournament. I'm a big Darren Horn fan. Hopefully 483 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 3: they are are are able to have their name called 484 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 3: on selection Sunday. 485 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 2: It's nice to hear from you as always. 486 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 7: Well, it's good to hear from you. 487 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,120 Speaker 10: It's been a while, and hoping the Norris can win 488 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 10: an Indy and then I'm calling you again telling you 489 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 10: can't wait for that Sunday so we can find out 490 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 10: where they're going. Hopefully they make it and they don't 491 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 10: go to Birmingham like they did a couple of years 492 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 10: ago to the exciting city of Birmingham, Alabama, which was 493 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,199 Speaker 10: I was so excited to go and we end up 494 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 10: going to Birmingham. So would rather not go there. But 495 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 10: at this point, when you're in the tournament, you'll go 496 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 10: anywhere and play. 497 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 2: That's right. 498 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,120 Speaker 3: Beggars can't be choosers, no question about it. All right, Well, 499 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 3: nice to hear from you as always. 500 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 7: Yep, see you, thanks a lot. 501 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 5: There you go. 502 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,640 Speaker 3: It's the NKU Hall of Famer Shannon Mine are giving 503 00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 3: us a call surprising us, letting us know about the 504 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 3: Norris who win last night, uh and beat Purdue Fort Wayne. 505 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 3: How about that that on the heels of Rick Burning's 506 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 3: appearance yesterday. It is eighteen away from five o'clock while 507 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 3: we're taking phone calls. Are MIC's on hold? Take Mike's 508 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 3: Let's take Mike's call. Mike, go ahead, you're on ESPN 509 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 3: fifteen thirty. 510 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 2: Mike, what's up? 511 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 5: Thank you? I'm sorry, one of my glasses popped out 512 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:28,399 Speaker 5: of night popped out of Sorry. 513 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 2: That's all right, go ahead, your mind, okay, Well, there's 514 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 2: a lot. 515 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:33,880 Speaker 10: On my mind. 516 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 5: Number one, Well, not really, but I really like this 517 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 5: distance team. It seems to me like they might be 518 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 5: in the head of your U in the heads of 519 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 5: your Knicks. 520 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 7: What do you think? 521 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 3: Oh? I mean I we'll find out tonight because they 522 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,880 Speaker 3: played tonight. But when they played week and a half ago, 523 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 3: when they played a week and a half ago, Detroit. 524 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 2: Took them behind the woodshed. 525 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 3: So now they've got some guys who aren't available tonight, 526 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 3: so Detroit, so we'll see. But they when they played 527 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 3: the Knicks and both teams were without players, that was 528 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 3: a forty eight point game. The margin climb to over fifty. 529 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 3: The Pistons are terrific now. I think when you watch them, 530 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 3: you know, are they going to be able to defend 531 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 3: at a high enough level? And are they gonna be 532 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 3: able to space the floor as well as they're going 533 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 3: to have to against good defensive teams. I think the 534 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 3: team that's interesting is Cleveland because as much as I 535 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 3: don't love James Harden, there's gonna be an element of 536 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 3: offensive firepower that's going to be tough to contend with. 537 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 3: The Celtics could tate them back. You know, they're a 538 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 3: really fun story this year because they were sort of 539 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 3: left for dead the East. It's called wide open. It's 540 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 3: wide open with a lot of quality. I think New 541 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 3: York's best is still better than everybody else's best. But look, 542 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 3: could the Pistons be in the Knicks heads when the 543 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 3: Knicks beat him in the postseason last year? 544 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 5: I don't know? Different team? 545 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 2: I mean, that's that is that is a that is 546 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 2: a that. 547 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 3: Is a thing that happened, Mike, although you often told 548 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 3: me it wasn't going to is a thing that happened. 549 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 3: So who should be in whose head? A team that 550 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 3: won a regular season game or a team that eliminated 551 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 3: the other from the postseason. 552 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 5: Well, I think we could coincl that one because that 553 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 5: was in the past and this is current season. So anyway, 554 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 5: I'm just really looking forward to the game tonight, and 555 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 5: I wanted to bring it up to you because and 556 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 5: I I've asked you this before, but I think it 557 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 5: was just one time. Maybe. Well, where do your affinity 558 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 5: for the Knicks come from? 559 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 3: Uh? 560 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 2: The portion of my childhood when we had to live 561 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 2: on the East Coast. 562 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 5: That's what it was. 563 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 7: Thanks boy. 564 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 2: Anything else? Did you live in New Jersey or something 565 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 2: beautiful New Jersey? 566 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 5: Yes, that's what it was. Okay, Now, I like to 567 00:29:58,440 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 5: get to the red real quick. 568 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 2: Good. 569 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 5: And I did a little research today and the comparison 570 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 5: between the two editions, between the Pirates and the Reds, 571 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 5: And this is what I'm really bullish on the Pirates. 572 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:15,959 Speaker 5: Of course, I hope the Reds beat the hell out 573 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 5: of them, but I was looking at the comparison between 574 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 5: the two big additions, Marcelo's and mister Leflores, and the 575 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 5: incredibly close in their numbers. So when you get time, 576 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 5: check out their numbers, when you compare the two of 577 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 5: them for their career and it's really pretty close, and 578 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 5: I found it very interesting. 579 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 3: Well, I think both teams were similar from this perspective, 580 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 3: Like the Reds needed a power bat, but the Pirates 581 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 3: last year hit thirty one fewer home runs than any 582 00:30:55,280 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 3: other team, So the Reds needed a power bat. But 583 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 3: what you're hoping for is like that power bat helps 584 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 3: amplify a guy like Elie de la Cruz. And you know, 585 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 3: it's not like the Reds were last in the league 586 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 3: in home runs. The Pirates were. And so it's it's 587 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 3: Brandon Laue, it's Marcelo Zuna, it's Ryan O'Hearn, who I 588 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 3: really like. Like they they need their Their big priority 589 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 3: was pop and they've addressed it. They've had a good 590 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 3: They've they've had a really really good offseason. I'm not 591 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 3: sure how much of an upgrade Ozuna is a dh 592 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 3: from Andrew McCutcheon at this stage in his career, but 593 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 3: I do think he is an upgrade. I don't know 594 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 3: if the Pirates are capable from going from a team 595 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 3: that was nowhere near the postseason last year to a 596 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 3: team that's suddenly gonna leap frog a bunch, but what 597 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 3: they have on the mound with Mitch Keller and Paul 598 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 3: Skens obviously goes without saying they're to be taken seriously 599 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 3: more than they have been. Whether you're the Reds or 600 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 3: the Cubs or the Brewers, the Pittsburgh Pirates are to 601 00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 3: be taken more seriously now than at any point over all, 602 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 3: let's just say decade. And that is a large part 603 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 3: because of the arms they had and the off season 604 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 3: they've had in relation to adding power bats. 605 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 5: Do you put two really quick things? Have you been 606 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 5: to PNC Park? 607 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 2: Yes, it's my favorite non Wrigley Field park. 608 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 7: I love it. 609 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 5: I love that place now. 610 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 2: It's awesome. 611 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 5: I haven't been there for a long time, but somebody 612 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 5: told me they had done some renovations in that you 613 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,719 Speaker 5: can go into the men's room and use the urinal 614 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 5: and look over the wall and see the game. Is 615 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 5: that true or why? 616 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 2: I have no idea. 617 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 5: Well, it's a pretty cool idea though. 618 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 3: No. As long as as long as you can see 619 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 3: out and others can see in. Yeah, it's awesome. Last 620 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 3: time I was at P and C Park I think 621 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 3: was twenty eighteen. 622 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 2: It is awesome. I've actually never been to P and 623 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 2: C Park when it's been full. The Pirates. 624 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 3: For most of PNC Park's exist distance haven't been very good. 625 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 3: They were obviously really good in twenty thirteen and twenty 626 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 3: fourteen beat the Reds in that wildcard game. It is 627 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 3: an awesome place to watch a ball game. But as 628 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 3: for the urinal situation, whether you can take care of 629 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 3: business and still see the field, I don't know if 630 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 3: that's a thing. If it's a thing, it's been something 631 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 3: they've added since I last went. 632 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 5: Kind of a cool idea, though, when you think about it, 633 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 5: as long as you're sure anybody. 634 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 2: Has never missed a minute of the action, absolutely. 635 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 5: Especially in the eighth of the ninth anyone as close. 636 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 5: And one last thing, do you put any of any 637 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 5: NFL team valuations as far as you know what they're worth, 638 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 5: into how well they do? Because if the Worries meet, 639 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 5: because the Bengals are dead last, uh. 640 00:33:51,880 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 3: No, so so the Cowboys and the most team in 641 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 3: the NFL. Correct, And it's so it's like Dallas one, 642 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 3: So like it's Dallas one. How how far is the 643 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 3: gap between Dallas and the Rams? 644 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 5: Two billion? 645 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:20,360 Speaker 2: Over the over the last thirty years. 646 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 3: Over the last thirty years, the Cowboys and Bengals have 647 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:26,799 Speaker 3: played in the most numbers have played in the same 648 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:27,800 Speaker 3: number of Super Bowls. 649 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,240 Speaker 5: I love it because I hate Dallas and I always 650 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 5: will you appreciate the time. 651 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 3: Okay, of course, yeah, thanks very much. The Bengals are 652 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:42,479 Speaker 3: I think worth five five and a quarter billion dollars. Yeah, 653 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 3: all right, Mike, I appreciate the phone call. Bengals are 654 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,240 Speaker 3: Forbes had this I don't know it was before the season, 655 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 3: like five and a quarter billion dollars. Many many will 656 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 3: use that as ammunition to make the claim that the 657 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:01,320 Speaker 3: Bengals have a cash flow problem. Bengals don't have a 658 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 3: cash problem. No NFL team has a cash problem. 659 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 5: There. 660 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 3: It is that the Bengals revenue. This is prior to 661 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 3: the twenty twenty five season. The Bengals revenue was five 662 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 3: hundred and seventy three million dollars. Like it is, It's 663 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 3: really hard to lose money owning a pro sports team. 664 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 3: It's like these baseball owners cry poverty. None of them 665 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 3: ever sell their teams. If you lose money owning an 666 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 3: NFL team, I can't even begin to think how bad 667 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,840 Speaker 3: of a business person you are. Ten away from five o'clock. 668 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 3: Speaking of the Bengals, they haven't tagged and traded Trey Hendrickson. 669 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 3: There's internet chatter about them and Max Crosby, one area 670 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,840 Speaker 3: ice cream companies trying to get Max to come to Cincinnati. 671 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 3: There's also some who go like, why aren't they signing 672 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 3: the best free agent available? We will spend some time 673 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 3: on that coming up in the five o'clock hour on 674 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 3: ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports. 675 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 1: Station, Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. 676 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 6: Traffic from the UC Health Traffic Center. 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