1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,279 Speaker 1: Chance to win a thousand dollars. Enter this nationwide keyword 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: on our website. Credit that's credit. Enter it now. 3 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 2: Oh, No one covers the Bengals like ESPN fifteen thirty, 4 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 2: Cincinnati's sports station. 5 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 3: Here we go The Moeger Show, hosted by not Moegar. 6 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 3: I'm back Chad Brenda in from today. Thanks to everybody 7 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 3: for tuning in. I thank you for choosing me. Much 8 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 3: appreciated a lot to get to today. Busy show. Busy 9 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 3: show here from Les three point thirty to get a 10 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 3: look at some of the best plays this weekend bye 11 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 3: week for the Bearcats and Bengals. Kegan Nickolson steps in 12 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 3: for me. I thought that was only fitting, right, Tarren, like, 13 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 3: I'm usually at three forty five on Thursdays. So even 14 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 3: though Keegan was on with Tony uh In Austin, does 15 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:27,759 Speaker 3: Austin still work on that show at Tony Pike? Since 16 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 3: he three to sixty, I didn't know if Austin was 17 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 3: still there or not. Kegan joins us at three forty five, 18 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 3: Dan Klaskins at four forty five to get your fantasy 19 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 3: football fix, and then Jay Morrison at about five point 20 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 3: twenty to talk some Bengals got Bengals stuff to talk 21 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 3: about today. My question is for the Bengals, how do 22 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 3: you get out of this mess? Because I think one 23 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 3: of my biggest problems for the Bengals is I think 24 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 3: they're a franchised that, for whatever reason they have, they 25 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:18,959 Speaker 3: are enable to self scout, they don't know their own 26 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:25,519 Speaker 3: scouting report. And what I mean by that is sometimes 27 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 3: you have to sit down, look yourself in the mirror 28 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:37,119 Speaker 3: and say, this isn't working. Whatever we're doing has not translated. 29 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 3: Maybe we had a good plan. I think the Bengals 30 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:45,679 Speaker 3: had a good plan on paper. That plan was we 31 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 3: know three years ago, four years ago, we know we're 32 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 3: going into Joe Burrow being under contract. Taren. I can 33 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 3: hear ESPN Radio very faintly underneath me. It's really thrown 34 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 3: me off. 35 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 4: This studio does it from time to time. Okay, that 36 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 4: will go to I don't know why does it? 37 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 3: So I have to do this whole show with like 38 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:14,839 Speaker 3: Freddie Coleman in my ear. 39 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 4: No, no, like once we break and come back, it'll 40 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 4: be gone. 41 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, cool has distracted me a little bit. I 42 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 3: think the plan was proper. You take a look at 43 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 3: those upcoming drafts, you say, Okay, Joe's gonna get paid, 44 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 3: Jamar is gonna get paid. We have to figure out 45 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 3: the plan for the defense. We're gonna spend almost all 46 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 3: of our first, second, and third round picks, our premium 47 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 3: picks in the next three drafts on defense. Amarius mems 48 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 3: on the offensive line two years ago, but ultimately every 49 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 3: other pick in the first three rounds has been a defense. 50 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:07,839 Speaker 3: With that in mind, that they were going to load up, 51 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 3: have a young, fast, aggressive defense that was going to 52 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 3: be in a position to support Joe Burrow in the offense. Well, 53 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 3: none of that is hit. Not a single pick. Yeah. 54 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 3: Maybe you look and say DJ Taylor, he wasn't drafted 55 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 3: in the first three rounds. He was not a premium pick. 56 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 3: Go back and look at the draft history, Miles Murphy, 57 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 3: Shamar Stewart, Joseph Osai, Cam Taylor, Britt Dax Hill. The 58 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 3: list goes on and on of guys that haven't worked out, 59 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 3: or guys that ultimately are Jags. Just a guy, not 60 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 3: a single Pro Bowl in that group, obviously, not a 61 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 3: single All Pro. And you're looking out a defense for 62 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 3: the last two years that was bad and somehow this 63 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 3: year is worse and that is on the back of 64 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 3: you spending three years three drafts entirely on the defense 65 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:39,799 Speaker 3: for all intents and purposes, and getting nothing right. Who's 66 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 3: going to stand up in that room and say, no, 67 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 3: this ain't It didn't work. Whatever we tried, whatever our 68 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 3: scouting philosophy is, whatever the plan was, it didn't work, 69 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 3: and we have to change because you're not going to 70 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 3: be able to answer this and for agency simply not. 71 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 3: So you're gonna have to draft your way out of it. 72 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 3: And if you continue being bad at drafting, you're gonna 73 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 3: waste the entire Joe Burrow era. So we'll discuss that. 74 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 3: I also want to get to some Reds. Here's my 75 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 3: question on the Reds again. This goes to long term planning. 76 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 3: It goes to living inside a world where yes, you 77 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 3: have to win this year, but you're also required to 78 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 3: look into the future and plan for said future. Twenty 79 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 3: twenty three, twenty twenty two into twenty twenty two, the 80 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 3: Reds have a sale, they get rid of they're major pieces. 81 00:06:57,760 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 3: Like I say, twenty twenty one into twenty twenty two 82 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 3: two they bottom out. Twenty twenty three starts anew with 83 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 3: a young group that's going to be the Reds Corps 84 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 3: for the foreseeable future. They kept payroll low. They had 85 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 3: a surprising twenty twenty three at disappointing twenty twenty four, 86 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 3: essentially still pretty much exclusively in the bottom third to 87 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 3: bottom fourth of payroll in Major League Baseball last year, 88 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 3: right in that one hundred and twenty million range, which 89 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 3: is still right there, right at the cusp of the 90 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 3: bottom third. Yesterday, Nick krawl As they announced three players 91 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 3: they didn't pick up their option on, Barlow, Hayes and Suitor. 92 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 3: The three guys that we're a pretty big part of 93 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 3: the plan in twenty twenty five, they're not going to 94 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 3: be around in twenty twenty six, or at least if 95 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 3: they are around, it's going to be on a much 96 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 3: lower number. But what happens as you get to this 97 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 3: point of the youth movement, arbitration starts, and that means 98 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 3: you've got a long list of guys that are going 99 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 3: to be arbitration eligible that are going to get raises. 100 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 3: You've had. You know, you had the down year in 101 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 3: twenty twenty four, but pretty good in twenty twenty three, 102 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 3: pretty good in twenty twenty five. You weren't terrible in 103 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 3: twenty twenty four. You just didn't meet expectations. Guys are 104 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 3: gonna get raises, and guess what you have to give 105 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 3: them raises. That's how arbitration works in Major League Baseball. 106 00:08:54,120 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 3: If you go into arbitration, you get a raise. So 107 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 3: now what you're in this window where you're trying to succeed. 108 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 3: You're looking at Elie de la Cruz, Hunter Green, Nick 109 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 3: Ladolo even though he had a very disappointing year, Matt McLean, 110 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 3: Spencer's steer, Noel vi Marte. But you're not gonna change 111 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 3: the payroll even though and guess what, it's gonna get 112 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 3: worse next year when a bunch of the names I 113 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 3: just mentioned are going to enter into the arbitration portion 114 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 3: of their career, and the Reds have made it clear 115 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:53,959 Speaker 3: payroll's going to stay about the same. So you're gonna 116 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 3: have five free agents that impacted this club last year 117 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 3: that probably aren't going to be back, three guys that 118 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 3: you didn't pick up their options. So like eight significant 119 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 3: contributors to the twenty six man roster are going to 120 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 3: be gone. That money is going to be consumed in 121 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 3: large part in arbitration. About forty million exits the roster, 122 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 3: talking about twenty to twenty five million in arbitration. So 123 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 3: you're looking at around twenty million that the Reds are 124 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 3: going to have to spend to replace eight players. That 125 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 3: has been covered. Here's my question, how is this front 126 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 3: office not ready for this? How did they not know 127 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty three. How did they not have a 128 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 3: meeting sitting around the big Oak conference table and saying 129 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 3: to each other, by the time we get to twenty 130 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 3: twenty six, this payroll is gonna have to go up. 131 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 3: It's gonna have to go up. That's a that's a 132 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 3: that's a surprise to them. They didn't think that through. 133 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 3: They didn't look at By the way, Reds fifth one, two, three, 134 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:32,199 Speaker 3: four or five fifth in Major League Baseball in attendance 135 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:40,839 Speaker 3: growth in twenty twenty five over twenty twenty four. They 136 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 3: were up one hundred and forty six thousand tickets sold 137 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 3: year over year. The team did their part. Team did 138 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:08,079 Speaker 3: their part millions of dollars added in revenue. But instead 139 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 3: the front office is making it very clear to this 140 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 3: fan base what has long been said about this front office. 141 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 3: The interest is not winning, The interest is not we 142 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 3: are going to absolutely every year, but the best team 143 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 3: we can possibly field out there for our fans, We're 144 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 3: going to try to win championships. Instead they say things like, 145 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 3: well you know, where are you gonna go? But the 146 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 3: point being jokes aside they should have known, they had 147 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 3: all the information to be fully aware that the farther 148 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 3: and farther they got into this group in their window. 149 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 3: Because if you don't know how, I'm assuming you're listening 150 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,319 Speaker 3: to sports talk. I'm assuming most of you know how 151 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 3: this works. A team controls a player for their first 152 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 3: six years in the major leagues, essentially three years those 153 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 3: players are on a rookie contract. Years four through six, 154 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 3: those players go into arbitration and teams can either sign 155 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 3: them to a long term deal that avoids arbitration, or 156 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 3: every off season they can go into arbitration, and what 157 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 3: rays they get off of their previous deal is negotiated 158 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 3: is arbitrated, and then they reach a number or the 159 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 3: team says no, thank you and you non tender, and 160 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 3: then that player becomes a free agent. The Reds knew 161 00:13:56,040 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 3: this was coming. The front office knew this was coming. 162 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 3: And the answer is payroll's not changing, which means if 163 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 3: you thought the team had holes last year. There's going 164 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 3: to be a lot more this year. If you thought 165 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 3: they were going to go get Kyle Schwarber, come on, 166 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 3: come on, you know better than that. And they made 167 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 3: it very clear yesterday that's not happening. The Reds want 168 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 3: to be eighty two and eighty That's who their front 169 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 3: office aspires to be. And we are in the beginning 170 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 3: of November and they have already made that abundantly clear 171 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 3: for the twenty twenty sixth season. Let's take a break. 172 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 3: We'll get to it after this. Since that he's ESPN 173 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 3: fifteen thirty. 174 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 5: Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty traffic. 175 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 6: From the UC Traffic Center. The Lung Cancer Rapid Access 176 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 6: Program at the UC Cancer Center is built to give 177 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 6: you a care plan fast meet with a specialist in 178 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 6: two days. Call five one, three, five eight five UCCC 179 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 6: northbound seventy one seventy five after Kyle's lane they left. 180 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 6: The lane is blocked from an accident up to a 181 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 6: twenty minute delay right now from two to seventy five 182 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 6: in Erlanger northbound Springfield Pike. It's an accident at Wyoming Avenue. 183 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 6: Traffic directed around that spot. I'm at Ezelic with traffic. 184 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 2: Tank don't have the big we have the Big Bang. 185 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 3: What a week for master P? Taren no limit dominates 186 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 3: versus about ten days ago, whatever that was. And then 187 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 3: master P. I don't think anybody really knows this, Tarren, 188 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 3: I don't think people know this is happening. Master P 189 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 3: is the head coach of the college basketball team at 190 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 3: New Orleans and they beat TCU on Monday to open 191 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 3: the season. Well, the president the yeah, he's running the 192 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 3: basketball program and they get a victory over TCU to 193 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 3: open the season. Amazing, who's the coach? 194 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 7: Do you know. 195 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 3: It can't be like Sea Murder and Sook the Shocker 196 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 3: in prison, right No? 197 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, well we'll. 198 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 3: Still gets out, okay. S Murder still is mystical. Mescal's 199 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 3: in prison. Yes, oh I didn't know that. That's why 200 00:16:51,320 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 3: he was at the verses. That's sad, free mystical anyhow. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, okay. 201 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 3: I feel like we're all over the he was locked 202 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 3: up for. You wouldn't have said that. Okay, then no, 203 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 3: don't free mystical, keep him locked up. 204 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 8: Sorry. 205 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 3: Master P gets his first win as the president of 206 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 3: Operations or whatever. For the University of New Orleans. Let's 207 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 3: go out to the funds. I had something I was 208 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 3: gonna say. I'll say it and get to it later. 209 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 3: Mark and Florence. Mark, how are we. 210 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 8: Talking to Chad Brenda? Man? 211 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 3: So I'm all right, good, what's up? 212 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 7: Man? 213 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 9: I got a question. Okay, when when Zach Tailor, you 214 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 9: remember that after the game gets the Jets, he made 215 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 9: a comment like I need the defense to make a play. 216 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 9: And then the next week, you know, Chase Brown made 217 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 9: his comment and then he you know, corrected him about 218 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 9: the comment. 219 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 7: How do you think that sat in the locker room? 220 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 3: Like, probably not great? 221 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 9: The coach cantold the defense under the bus, but the player. 222 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 3: Can't do Probably not. I mean, I'm sure the defense 223 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 3: appreciated the coach having their back, but is that you know, 224 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 3: like those guys know they're not playing well. Yeah, you're professionals, 225 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 3: you're grown adults. You're not playing well. People are gonna 226 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:24,679 Speaker 3: talk about it like that. That's the nature of this, right, Like, 227 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 3: you know, I think Zach could have come out and said, look, 228 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 3: you know, we would like for Chase to have handled 229 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 3: that a little differently, but ultimately, like the defense does 230 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 3: need to make a play. 231 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 9: Yeah, do you think the coordinator might be in over 232 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 9: his head? 233 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 10: Because really. 234 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 9: There's got to be something like Japane Pratt wanted to 235 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 9: be traded, Logan Wilson wanted out, all these Okay mc 236 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 9: killie Jackson being the panel gap, all these guys wanted out. 237 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 9: What what is going on in that defensive room that 238 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 9: the defensive. 239 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 3: Player is going it out? Let me ask you a question, mark. 240 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,199 Speaker 3: Let's say you were at a job, right and you 241 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 3: were in a You're in a corporation, and your division 242 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:17,959 Speaker 3: of that corporation is like the worst division in the 243 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 3: entire corporation. 244 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 7: Yeah. 245 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, And you're not on the A team, You're on 246 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 3: the B team of the worst division in the entire corporation. 247 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 3: You're probably gonna want out, aren't you. Like if they 248 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,199 Speaker 3: told me to sit on the bench and watch that 249 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 3: slop that they call a defense, I'd be asking for 250 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 3: a trade too, Bro, Get me the hell out of here, just. 251 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 9: Saying yeah, yeah, yeah, And y'all touched on this point earlier. 252 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 9: I don't think they can win a super Bowl with 253 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:56,120 Speaker 9: Zach Taylor and his regime. I just I just. 254 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 8: Don't think it can happen. 255 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 3: I don't look, I don't think. Here's the ultimate conclusion 256 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,919 Speaker 3: that I have to come to. Mark the players on 257 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 3: defense are bad. Loure Ayna Rumo is a good defensive coach, 258 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 3: a good NFL defensive coordinator, and they were terrible under 259 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 3: lou Ayna Rumo the last two years. Now you bring 260 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 3: in Al Golden, Al Golden not good. So that leads 261 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 3: me to believe the problem is the players are bad. 262 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 3: That's the simple, the simple conclusion. Right, one plus one 263 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 3: equals two? 264 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 8: Yeah? 265 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 7: Yeah. 266 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 9: Could you take any player on that defense? Could they start. 267 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 8: For another team? 268 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 3: Probably DJ Turner, who I was wrong. DJ Turner was 269 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 3: the second round pick. In my brain, I was getting 270 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 3: him confused with DJ Ivy, who was taken in the 271 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 3: seventh round that year. But go back to two thousand 272 00:20:54,640 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 3: and twenty three, Okay, Jordan Battle, DJ Turner, Miles Murphy, McKinley, Jackson, 273 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 3: Chris Jenkins, uh, Demitrius Knight, Shamar Stewart. Those are the 274 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 3: premium picks that they have spent on defense in the 275 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 3: first three rounds over the last three years. One good player, 276 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 3: one one the rest of them. Think, what do you think. 277 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 9: The reason is that McKinley Jackson and Kane get in 278 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 9: the rotation of this bad defensive line going on. 279 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 3: I mean, the only thing that I can he's not good. 280 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 3: They've put him out there. He played fourteen games last year. 281 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 3: He's been on the field, he's gotten a chance, and 282 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 3: he hasn't flashed. He hasn't made plays. They're desperate for 283 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 3: somebody to be to go out there and make plays, desperate, 284 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 3: and he hasn't been able to do it. That tells 285 00:21:58,600 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 3: me he's not a good player. 286 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 9: Okay, Well that's all I had. I'll get off and 287 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 9: listen to the rest of the show and then we'll see. 288 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 9: We'll see how they do they when they come back 289 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 9: next week when they play Pittsburgh. 290 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 3: All right, appreciate the mark, thanks, Maam Saya Right. I 291 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 3: don't know of any reason to be positive right now 292 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 3: about this defense. They're tracking to be the worst defense 293 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 3: in the history of the NFL. They haven't even played 294 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 3: the good offenses on their schedule yet for the most part. 295 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 3: That's coming up in the back half of the schedule. 296 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 3: Just take a quick break. Lee Sterling from Paramounts Points 297 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 3: Sports joins us next The Mowagger Show. Since that's ESPN fifteen. 298 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 5: Thirty Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty traffic from. 299 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 6: The UC Health Traffic Center. The Lung Cancer Rapid Access 300 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 6: Program at the UC Cancer Center is built to give 301 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 6: you a care play and fast with a specialist in 302 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 6: two days. Call five one, three, five eight five UCCC 303 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 6: northbound on Springfield Pike. There's an accident at Yoming Avenue. 304 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 6: Cruise are directing traffic around that spot. Also an accident 305 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:18,360 Speaker 6: on Linwood Avenue over at Delta eastbound two seventy five. 306 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 6: Slow traffic from seventy five to Reed Hartman Highway. I'm 307 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 6: at Ezellic with traffic. This report is sponsored by Hell 308 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 6: Here we go, The Malwagger Show. I am not Mowger. 309 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 3: We'll be back, I guess on Monday, ken Brew and tomorrow. 310 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 3: I will be at UC basketball tomorrow night, as the 311 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 3: Bearcats gets sat to take on Georgia State, first time 312 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:57,360 Speaker 3: they played Georgia State since the tournament in since eighteen 313 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 3: twenty seventeen. Let's get to it. First guest of the day, 314 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 3: Lee Sterling from Paramount Sports. Lee, how the heck are 315 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 3: you this weekend? 316 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,360 Speaker 7: I think better than you, guys, barely so. 317 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 11: Now our teams down here have had a real rough 318 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 11: go of a Dolphins and the Canes last week losing 319 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 11: to SMU. We know one thing for sure, Moe will 320 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 11: not have a heart attack in the next forty years. 321 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 11: If you can withstand that game last Sunday, you're fine. 322 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 11: You're set to go for another forty years. So one 323 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 11: of the craziest games we've ever seen. 324 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 7: The ending. 325 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 3: Here's the crazy part. Lead Like when you talk about 326 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 3: like we're talking about this Bengals defense is the worst 327 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 3: defense in NFL history, right, you have to leap frog 328 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 3: like three other Bengals defenses to get there. 329 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 7: Boy, it was bad and. 330 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 11: Wow, then they traded away one of the better parts too, 331 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 11: Am I correct? 332 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 3: Well, I mean on paper, yeah, but they had already 333 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 3: kind of punted on him. They had demoted him. He 334 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 3: wasn't really getting any snaps. So I mean, you know, 335 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 3: Logan Wilson was. 336 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 11: A crazy you look at you look at like Pro 337 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 11: Football Focus. They got four of the top ten guys 338 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 11: in miss tackles. 339 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, in the top two. 340 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 7: Yeah. I'll never forget this. 341 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 11: One time my high school coach told one of the 342 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 11: linebackers he was having a rough day and we're looking 343 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 11: to film. He goes next time just lay down. 344 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 7: He got maybe a little. 345 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 3: Trip makhm trip over you. Uh maybe maybe maybe maybe, Yeah, 346 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 3: that's not a guarantee. 347 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 7: Uh. 348 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 3: Let's start with College Lee Big twelve, maybe the game 349 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 3: of the week in college football. Texas Tech minus ten 350 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 3: hosting by U. 351 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 11: Yeah, and and Texas Tech at home. People think they're unvincible, 352 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 11: pretty darn good. 353 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 3: They're very good. 354 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 7: And Baron Moore, Baron is good. They got they get. 355 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 7: On the other side, they. 356 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 11: Got a bunch of guys rated really high in the 357 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 11: top ten at every position, especially in the front seven. 358 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 7: On defense and pro football focus. 359 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 11: They make plays, but BYU can play any style of game. 360 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 11: They're plus ten in turnover ratio, even better than Texas 361 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 11: Tech plus eight, giving up just nineteen points per game. 362 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 11: Bear Bachmeier, this kid's playing like a junior or senior 363 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 11: or a cagey veteran here. So one of the rules 364 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 11: I look at when if I'm gonna consider taking points, 365 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 11: can that team play defense? And I think that BYU can. 366 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 11: I think this is a one score game either way. 367 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 11: I think Tech wins in the end twenty eight to 368 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 11: twenty four. But I'm gonna take the double digit points, 369 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 11: and this could be a way of a game on Saturday. 370 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 3: I'm exactly with you on that. Lee Byu is just 371 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 3: they find a way to hang around. They just play 372 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 3: good football. They don't hurt themselves, and they make you 373 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 3: beat them. So even if you do beat them, I 374 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 3: think it's going to be close. I agree with you there, 375 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 3: Chargers three get laying three against the Steelers. 376 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 11: And I think the Steelers, you know, every couple of weeks, 377 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,400 Speaker 11: every third or fourth week, that come out and they 378 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 11: show out and they played well. Give them credit last week, 379 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 11: but are they gonna keep getting four plus turnovers in 380 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 11: a game. 381 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 7: I don't see it. 382 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,120 Speaker 11: I think they've got a bunch of aging vets on defense. 383 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,880 Speaker 11: They decide every once in a while to play. And 384 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 11: the Chargers made a good trade at the deadline to 385 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 11: get a starting piece at offensive line and to replace 386 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 11: Joe Alt. So I'm impressed with this Chargers team. Even 387 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 11: through some injuries, they're able to overcome it. And they 388 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,919 Speaker 11: have by far the better quarterback than Justin Herbert, so 389 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,640 Speaker 11: better coaching staff I think too. I think Pittsburgh they're 390 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,439 Speaker 11: gonna be right there. Are gonna be right at the 391 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 11: cut line. Whether they make the playoffs, don't make the playoffs, 392 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 11: but one thing is certain, they're not gonna win a 393 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 11: playoff game. So I like the Chargers here, more big 394 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 11: strike capability from the receivers Pittsburgh that have made a 395 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 11: play for a receiver at the deadline. They've got a 396 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 11: bunch of fours, fives and sixes as their second receiver. 397 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 11: Chargers Superchargers here twenty seven to twenty lee. 398 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 3: I don't know if you've heard this before, but Mike 399 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 3: Tomlins never finished below five hundred. 400 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's probably nine and eight again too. 401 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,479 Speaker 3: Yep, Packers talking about Jacko and Hyde. Team Packers two 402 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 3: and a half point favorites over the Eagles. 403 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 11: And every year there's a couple teams zigzag win one week, 404 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 11: lose the next week. And that was green Bay last week. 405 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 11: For some reason, they just come out flat. Ski their 406 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 11: head coach, Matt Lafour. You go and look at some games. 407 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 11: His game plan, play calling is great, same with Jordan Love. 408 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 11: So they were down last week, probably will be better 409 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 11: this week. I think the receivers are starting to get 410 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 11: some separation. They're finally most of them healthy again. In Philadelphia, 411 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 11: they did get some help before the trade deadline, but 412 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 11: might take them a couple of weeks to get integrated. 413 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 11: Still don't think this defense is the same. Lost a 414 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,959 Speaker 11: lot of key pieces to free agency. I think finally 415 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 11: Green Bay gets it done. Green Bay twenty seven to 416 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 11: twenty one the Eagles. 417 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 3: Finally Game of the week. Ravens given four against the Vikings. 418 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 7: Go out. 419 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 11: What a game this is. Both teams are desperate for 420 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 11: a win. 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Kegan Nicholson Bearkat Journal up next 435 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 3: ready here on some that E's ESPN fifteen. 436 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 5: Thirty Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty traffic. 437 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 6: From the UC Health Traffic Center. The Lung Cancer Rapid 438 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 6: Access Program at the UC Cancer Center is built to 439 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 6: give you a care plan fast with a specialist in 440 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 6: two days. Call five one, three, five eight five UCCC 441 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 6: westbound Norwood Lateral. There's an accident on the off ramp 442 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 6: to southbound seventy five northbound Springfield Pike. Also an accident 443 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 6: at Yoming Avenue right now, traffic being directed around that 444 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 6: area on the Double A Highway. And accident at Poplar 445 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 6: Ridge Road on at Ezelic with traffic. 446 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 3: This report is there we go closing out hour number one. 447 00:30:55,280 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 3: This is normally my segment every Thursday with Moegger, but 448 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 3: uh mos out today as you can tell. So, uh 449 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 3: I figured I would fill my segment with Keegan Nikoson, 450 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 3: who joins us now from Bearcat Journal dot Com. Keegan, 451 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 3: you're you're a big master P guy, right. 452 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 12: H Yeah, it's huge, I think to have his album 453 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 12: posted in my room. 454 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 3: You probably got the whole No Limit catalog, don't you. 455 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 7: Yeah. 456 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 8: I actually slipped through it every morning when I woke up, 457 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 8: just to get the day started. 458 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 3: Taren, what what year did No Limit kind of phase out? 459 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 3: Was that? Like O four three O four Were you born? 460 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 3: When were you born? 461 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 8: Two thousand? 462 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 3: So yeah, you were a toddler. I could see definitely 463 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 3: that your parents had like the headphones on and and 464 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 3: you were you were bumping and make them say, huh, 465 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 3: that makes sense to me. I could see it. That's 466 00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 3: what they do with kids and ross. I'm pretty sure 467 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 3: game bye week for the football team. We always hear 468 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 3: bye week comes at a good time, Like everybody says that, right, 469 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 3: no matter when your bye week is, ah, bye week 470 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 3: comes at a good time. Did the bye week actually 471 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 3: come at a good time for this team? 472 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 10: I feel like both bye weeks have come at a. 473 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 12: Decent time, but not from a fan perspective, because both 474 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 12: bye weeks give you just two weeks of apathy basically, 475 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 12: because the first one comes after they beat Northwestern State, 476 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 12: and then that's coming off a lost in Nebraska. 477 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 13: A winter for Bowling Green, so you don't really have 478 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 13: any positive momentum going. And then the second bye week 479 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 13: comes after you get shellacked in Salt Lake City, So 480 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 13: that positive momentum that you had after however many. 481 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 8: Consecutive wins it was seven consecutive. 482 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 13: Wins, that's halted, and now you just have to wait, 483 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 13: So I think it comes at a good time to 484 00:32:58,480 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 13: got some people. 485 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 12: That are beating and bruised that need some recovery. But 486 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 12: in terms of kind of a momentum perspective, you would. 487 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 7: Love to just be able to. 488 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 13: Bounce back after that loss and get a big win. 489 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 13: But you know, I don't think they get to choose 490 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 13: when it happens, so you kind of get what you. 491 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 3: Get getting healthy. We know Evan Pryor was out. It 492 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 3: sounds like maybe Tywie Walker was a little banged up 493 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 3: in that Utah game as well, both coming in and 494 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 3: then at some point during the first half, which is 495 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 3: why we didn't see him much in the second half, 496 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 3: which explained a lot. Jake Goldey exited that game, You've 497 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 3: dealt with Dante Corleone kind of limited snaps. From that perspective, 498 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 3: it does feel like a chance for Cincinnati to get 499 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 3: back to as close to one hundred percent for the 500 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 3: stretch run. 501 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 8: Yeah, And I feel like this is where you need 502 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 8: everyone to be. 503 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 12: One hundred percent because it's a. 504 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 13: Three game season now, Like you're you're O and O 505 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 13: and you need to go three and zero because if 506 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 13: you lose a game, then your chances of getting into 507 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 13: Dallas and playing in the Big Teal Championship are greatly reduced, 508 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 13: especially if you're losing the BYU, So they need to. 509 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 12: Be one hundred percent, especially on the defensive line. Dante 510 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 12: Curleone has not really had the season that a lot 511 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:20,439 Speaker 12: of people thought he had. 512 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 8: He's still take a lot of people that he could have. 513 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 8: He's still taking a lot of attention. 514 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 13: Domaining double teams, but he's just not really he hasn't 515 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 13: really been that game. 516 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:35,319 Speaker 12: Rerecord that Cincinnati facers so used to. And then I'm 517 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 12: not really sure. Evan Pryor was a big reason they 518 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 12: lost forty five to fourteen, but he just offers a 519 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 12: little bit of something that. 520 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:47,360 Speaker 13: The other running backs behind him and Tybie Walker don't offer. 521 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,439 Speaker 13: So just adding that consistent part through your offense back 522 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:52,240 Speaker 13: would be big. 523 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 12: I think he's probably out of the group that are 524 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 12: injured right now. 525 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 8: The least likely to play against Arizona. 526 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 12: There's definitely a chance. 527 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 8: But you know, I'd expect Jake gold A to be back. 528 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 12: I'd expect Tabby to get two hundred percent, and then 529 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 12: you can see if you can pull one out. 530 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 3: This is coming up going to be the toughest three 531 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 3: game stretch of the season pretty much by far, isn't it. 532 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,840 Speaker 3: I mean, when you look at the metrics, Arizona and 533 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,799 Speaker 3: TCU are both right there with Cincinnati and like the 534 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 3: upper twenties, low thirties, depending on what you look at. 535 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 3: And then BYU is essentially going to be right, you know, 536 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 3: there with Utah as the best team they've faced. 537 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 12: Yeah, definitely, And I think. 538 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,359 Speaker 13: As easily as they can go three and oh, they 539 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,359 Speaker 13: could go one and two or maybe even zero three, 540 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 13: just depending on what kind of football they play. 541 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 12: Arizona is interesting. 542 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 13: They're kind of rallying the troops a little bit, pulled 543 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:56,239 Speaker 13: off some big wins. As a recent they just crushed Colorado, 544 00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 13: which isn't exactly a very impressive thing, but I believe 545 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 13: that game was at Colorado, so going in there and 546 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 13: getting a big win is huge. 547 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 8: And then obviously BYU is d YU. 548 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 12: They're not going to wow you with tons of talent 549 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,279 Speaker 12: and like show stopping players, but they're going to play 550 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 12: the game the right way. 551 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 8: They're not going to make. 552 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 12: Mental mistakes, and they're going to play the fundamentals. And 553 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 12: then they've got probably the best true freshman quarterback in 554 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,359 Speaker 12: the country who has a really bright future. And then 555 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 12: you finish the TCU and Josh Kruper is like a 556 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 12: four thousand pard passer and Eric mccallister's second in the 557 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,720 Speaker 12: Big twelve and touchdown perceptions right behind. Since Thenatie Cyrus 558 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,840 Speaker 12: Allen and he's had a long, long issue of sustaining 559 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 12: success with the horn Frogs. 560 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:43,360 Speaker 13: So it's it's gonna be tough. The thing about the 561 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,319 Speaker 13: TCU game that's most interesting. I'll be monitoring what they're 562 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:47,439 Speaker 13: doing to see, you. 563 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 12: Know, is that just going to be kind of a 564 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 12: let's just get the season over with game at the end, 565 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 12: or are they actually playing for something and trying to 566 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 12: take some momentum because that game's going to be at home. 567 00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 13: But at third with thinks gaming break, maybe there's not 568 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 13: as many students. Maybe can pull one out in kind 569 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,799 Speaker 13: of a lower tier environment in terms of attendance. 570 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,880 Speaker 12: But yeah, it's it's definitely the toughest part of the 571 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 12: schedule and these games can sneak up on you more 572 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 12: than any other kind of stretch that they've had. 573 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:20,240 Speaker 3: Basketball real quick. Georgia State shouldn't be much of a 574 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:24,320 Speaker 3: problem on Friday night, should they? 575 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 13: No, they are outside of the top three hundred in 576 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 13: kim Palm and offensive and defensive efficiency after getting walloped 577 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:36,719 Speaker 13: by Eastern Michigan and Nippsiany. So it should be an 578 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 13: easier game than Western Carolina in all honesty. So look 579 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 13: for since Eddie to be very efficient on both sides 580 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 13: of the ball. They should win the rebound in battle 581 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 13: and you know, the turnover numbers. 582 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:49,919 Speaker 8: Should be down. 583 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 13: I think that's the two biggest things I'm monitoring in 584 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,960 Speaker 13: terms of just progress from game one is you know, 585 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 13: just kill them on the boards and then take care 586 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 13: of the ball. See how guards play, and see if 587 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,239 Speaker 13: a three hundred monster can continue to kind of get 588 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 13: those eighteen points or however many points that all three 589 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 13: of them get. 590 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 3: You're all in on this bear Cat big three right 591 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 3: with a bay of Baba Miller and Lustafa Cham Like 592 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 3: you're not letting this go, are you? 593 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 12: I think like they're the three talented players in the team. 594 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,240 Speaker 12: All three of them can impact the game in different ways. 595 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 12: And if you're looking from an offensive perspective, I don't know. 596 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 13: Who else you can really count on to get you 597 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 13: those high volume numbers. 598 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,919 Speaker 12: Kerk Risa to possibly get up there. 599 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 8: I don't know about Dade. 600 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,280 Speaker 12: Thomas Keishan Tillery isn't. 601 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 8: Really at that spot. 602 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,400 Speaker 13: So Cincinnati's gonna be a team that's gonna score a 603 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,879 Speaker 13: lot of points. I think you're gonna look at those 604 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,919 Speaker 13: three to do it, whether it's Rusafa cham down low, 605 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,359 Speaker 13: whether it's Boba Miller all over or Seana Bayo all over, 606 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 13: and then you kind of get the supplemental stuff from 607 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:58,120 Speaker 13: guys Victory Rodriguez and Jann Celestine. But you know, griven 608 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 13: on conference, That's what I'm following, seeing how consistent those 609 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,839 Speaker 13: three guys can be offensively and how much they can 610 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 13: provide for the Bear Cups. 611 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 3: Are you getting some rest today or here you're a 612 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 3: little under the weather. 613 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,920 Speaker 12: I have been in the basically all day. I woke 614 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,840 Speaker 12: up early, got my what to watch for for the 615 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 12: Georgia State game out of the way, and then crawled 616 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 12: back in bed. So I'm trying to recover so I 617 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,319 Speaker 12: can put my best foot forward for Friday night's game 618 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 12: at Fiftford Arena. 619 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,879 Speaker 3: Austin Bass got you sick while you were out last? 620 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,880 Speaker 8: Huh? 621 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:30,240 Speaker 7: Yeah? 622 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 12: That or the altitude change or you know, the twelve 623 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 12: hour travel days. 624 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 3: I'm not sure what it was just one of those. 625 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,319 Speaker 3: All right, appreciate you man, have a good weekend. I'll 626 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 3: see you tomorrow. 627 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:43,279 Speaker 8: Absolutely see it. 628 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 3: Hey go Keen nickoson barcat journal dot com. Let's take 629 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,799 Speaker 3: a break. Hour number two coming up right after this. 630 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 3: Since I he's ESPN thirteen thirty. If you're fifty five or. 631 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 1: Older and your chance to win one thousand dollars entered 632 00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 1: this nationwide keyword on. 633 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:20,160 Speaker 3: Our website, check check you enter it. Now here we 634 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:26,480 Speaker 3: go our number two, The Moeggars Show. Sinceati's ESPN fifteen thirty. 635 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:39,239 Speaker 3: I'm Chad Brenda filling in. Thank you for choosing me, 636 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:48,920 Speaker 3: Dan Klaskins four forty five, giving you your fantasy football 637 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:53,600 Speaker 3: Look this week we are phone lines are open for 638 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,919 Speaker 3: the rest of this hour. We have one guest, Jay 639 00:40:55,960 --> 00:41:00,040 Speaker 3: Morrison in our number three, but we're open from the 640 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,840 Speaker 3: So it's one of those days I uh want to 641 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,000 Speaker 3: talk to the people. Haven't really had a big chance 642 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,000 Speaker 3: to do that yet, So let's go out to the phones. 643 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,640 Speaker 3: Talk to Mike in La Mike, how the heck are you? 644 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 11: Well? 645 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:15,800 Speaker 8: I'm great? 646 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,919 Speaker 10: Uh, you can go ahead and congratulate the big Blue wrecking. 647 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:20,480 Speaker 7: Crew right now. 648 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:22,279 Speaker 3: What if I don't want to. 649 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:30,040 Speaker 10: You don't have to if you're rooting for Toronto. Sorry 650 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:30,759 Speaker 10: about your luck. 651 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,560 Speaker 3: I wasn't really rooting for anybody. I just wanted good baseball, 652 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 3: and we got good baseball. 653 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:36,799 Speaker 10: Oh it was fantastic. 654 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:38,320 Speaker 3: It's a great series. 655 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:40,279 Speaker 10: I'll tell you one thing. 656 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:41,480 Speaker 14: Kegan Nicholson, he. 657 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,640 Speaker 10: Ought to just get a job down there at the station. 658 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:49,680 Speaker 10: He's been on a couple times today. This poor guy 659 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,560 Speaker 10: is home in bed sick. Tony has him on, You 660 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,360 Speaker 10: have him on? Hell lantill probably have him on. 661 00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 3: I'm on with Lance tonight at seven oh five. Do 662 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:01,400 Speaker 3: you think guy should call Lance and tell him to 663 00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:02,720 Speaker 3: just have Kegan on instead? 664 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,239 Speaker 10: Yeah, Hegan, will I tell you to stick your jub 665 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 10: up your butt? I don't know that. 666 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 3: Well, you forget who who pays Kegan's bills. 667 00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 10: So no, he's a good guy. Teamy knows well. I 668 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 10: think b why he's going to beat the brakes off? 669 00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,920 Speaker 10: You see, I really do. That's a sound, sound, sound 670 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:29,760 Speaker 10: football team. 671 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,799 Speaker 3: Uh you see is a very sound football team too. 672 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,400 Speaker 3: They just let it get away from a limit. A 673 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,359 Speaker 3: couple too many mistakes against Utah. But if you look 674 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:41,800 Speaker 3: at the game, it wasn't as bad as the final 675 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 3: score indicated. Cincinnati just did the one thing he can't 676 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,720 Speaker 3: let Utah do, which is they get up two scores 677 00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:49,719 Speaker 3: and they will just choke you out with that run game. 678 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:54,200 Speaker 3: I think the B YU, I think Utah is a 679 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:58,480 Speaker 3: much more difficult matchup for Cincinnati, not the B Why 680 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 3: you won't be I think it's to be a really 681 00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:02,440 Speaker 3: good game. That's not to say, you see, he's gonna 682 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,879 Speaker 3: win for sure, but I think that'll end up being 683 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,040 Speaker 3: a really good game in a couple of weeks against. 684 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 15: Utah because I'm taking I'm gonna take dye with that 685 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,680 Speaker 15: freshman quarterback they got is no joke. 686 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, so is Brendan Sorosby. Brendan Sosby is the number 687 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:19,960 Speaker 3: one quarterback in the Big twelve. 688 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:25,759 Speaker 10: Hey, I'll tell you what that this Dan Patrick. The 689 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,359 Speaker 10: more I listen to him, of course, you know we're 690 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,319 Speaker 10: all watching him for years, he is really the Him 691 00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:35,000 Speaker 10: and Jim Wrong. There are the masters at doing interviews. 692 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,319 Speaker 10: They turn an interview into. 693 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,840 Speaker 15: A conversation like you're sitting on the couch shooting the 694 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:44,640 Speaker 15: bull crap. Just the apparity of how to conduct good interviews. 695 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:49,920 Speaker 15: And he just amazes me constantly with his unique ability 696 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:50,600 Speaker 15: to do that. 697 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,480 Speaker 3: I think it's keoy. I think the people that do 698 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:58,600 Speaker 3: it best, Mike are the people that can prepare. But 699 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,799 Speaker 3: they don't over prepare. They don't have a list of 700 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 3: questions like this is what I have to ask? This 701 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 3: is they get ready, They prepare, and then they have 702 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,319 Speaker 3: a conversation and you can drive the conversation in a 703 00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,279 Speaker 3: lot of different ways. But I think it becomes so 704 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:18,759 Speaker 3: rigid when people just like, these are the questions I 705 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:23,480 Speaker 3: need to ask, and they forget to listen and converse 706 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,040 Speaker 3: with the person that they're talking to. Those guys are 707 00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:27,719 Speaker 3: masters at it. 708 00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,320 Speaker 10: Yeah, that's that. They evokes all kinds of good info 709 00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:36,080 Speaker 10: that maybe even the interviewer wasn't planning off the right. 710 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:37,920 Speaker 10: That's what he's that's what he's. 711 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:41,399 Speaker 3: Trying to evote, my correct Yeah, you want you want 712 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:45,759 Speaker 3: them to feel comfortable. You want them to feel like 713 00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:49,080 Speaker 3: they're just having a conversation with you. Not that there's 714 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,399 Speaker 3: a difference. Man, When you talk to athletes, they will 715 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,360 Speaker 3: tell you there's a difference between being in that type 716 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:58,440 Speaker 3: of setting or feeling like you're being interviewed. Your guard 717 00:44:58,520 --> 00:44:59,960 Speaker 3: is up when you're being interviewed. 718 00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:01,600 Speaker 10: MM Hmmm. 719 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,560 Speaker 3: When you just talking, it's a lot different conversation. 720 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,640 Speaker 10: I see what you're saying, because it's more like you're 721 00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,160 Speaker 10: just talking to a buddy sort of thing. 722 00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:10,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, You're like you're sitting at a sitting at a 723 00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:12,120 Speaker 3: bar talking to the guy. 724 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:12,319 Speaker 8: Next to you. 725 00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:17,600 Speaker 10: Yeah. He interviewed Dave Roberts yesterday, of course, the manager 726 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,160 Speaker 10: of the Dodgers, and it was such a good interview. 727 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,640 Speaker 3: Are you a Dodgers guy, Mike, First, I've heard of it. 728 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,719 Speaker 10: It's just a little just a little bit. And I 729 00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:27,800 Speaker 10: mean I grew up in Cincinnati. 730 00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,400 Speaker 3: I was now the Dodgers were the enemy. 731 00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:35,200 Speaker 10: In West Yeah. Back in the seventies they were big time. 732 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,760 Speaker 10: But when I moved to LA after Vietnam, Vin Sculley 733 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,160 Speaker 10: single handedly turned me into a Dodger fan. 734 00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:42,960 Speaker 7: He did it. 735 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,640 Speaker 10: It was him that did it. And I still root 736 00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:49,520 Speaker 10: for the Reds if they're not playing the Dodgers. But 737 00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,880 Speaker 10: he asked, uh, He asked, Dave Roberts, you know that 738 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,240 Speaker 10: catch that Andy pat has made against the left field 739 00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,600 Speaker 10: wall wait in a semi game over the top of 740 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:02,160 Speaker 10: t K And he said, uh, he said, he said, 741 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:02,760 Speaker 10: how did. 742 00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:03,239 Speaker 7: That go for you? 743 00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:03,520 Speaker 9: To day? 744 00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:06,960 Speaker 10: What did they say it. When they came into the bench, 745 00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,480 Speaker 10: Paul has caught the ball and he goes, kick, are 746 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,879 Speaker 10: you okay? Goes, don't worry about that? Did you catch 747 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:14,760 Speaker 10: the damn ball? 748 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:20,040 Speaker 3: Hey? Some things are more important, Mike, Some things are 749 00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:20,960 Speaker 3: more important. 750 00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,279 Speaker 10: Exactly. He's trying to be his buddy, but his only 751 00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,080 Speaker 10: concerned face down on the turf was did you catch 752 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:28,520 Speaker 10: the ball? I thought that was super. 753 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:28,879 Speaker 8: Quick, Mike. 754 00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,520 Speaker 3: What's your favorite name in sports right now? Because I 755 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,400 Speaker 3: might have one that's going to jump up on the 756 00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,040 Speaker 3: list pretty high. 757 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:40,880 Speaker 10: Well, historically, my favorite pop couple favorite names was swift 758 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:46,760 Speaker 10: Watch for the Seattle SuperSonics. Okay, uh, Downtown Freddie Brown 759 00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:51,279 Speaker 10: for the Seattle SuperSonics. What are you gonna hit me with? 760 00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:51,959 Speaker 8: So? 761 00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:56,719 Speaker 3: Tonight Xavier plays, But that wasn't his name, that was 762 00:46:56,760 --> 00:47:02,320 Speaker 3: his nickname. That's a different conversation best nicknames. Tonight Xavier plays. Lemoyne. 763 00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:07,440 Speaker 3: Lemoyne is a Lemoyne is a smaller school up in 764 00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:14,479 Speaker 3: up near Syracuse, mh. They have a player whose name 765 00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:16,799 Speaker 3: is Tennessee Rainwater. 766 00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:23,919 Speaker 10: Oh. That is excellent. That is God given name. 767 00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:29,440 Speaker 3: That's what it's listed as. Official name is Tennessee Rainwater. 768 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,960 Speaker 3: He's a six six pounds junior power forward. 769 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,680 Speaker 10: Oh that is really good, Chad, thank you. I'll be 770 00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:38,520 Speaker 10: able to use that. Thank you so much. 771 00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,879 Speaker 3: That is classic man Like there's it feels like that's 772 00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:43,040 Speaker 3: a country song, right. 773 00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,560 Speaker 10: Oh, it sounds like something that you know, Garth's books. 774 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,240 Speaker 3: Or somebody, Yeah, Tennessee Rainwater. 775 00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:53,160 Speaker 10: Yeah, it sounds exactly like one of these country rock groups. 776 00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:58,000 Speaker 10: Did you Oh, she was gonna ask you, did you? 777 00:47:58,520 --> 00:47:58,880 Speaker 7: Oh? 778 00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,360 Speaker 10: If you had? Now, I know it's hard for you 779 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,520 Speaker 10: to be objected that when it comes to Now I'm. 780 00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,760 Speaker 3: An objective all the time. Oh, well, you see Xavier. 781 00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:15,920 Speaker 10: Now I hate Xavier, having noted the bias, which is warranted. 782 00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,960 Speaker 10: I prefer you see the Zager. But I've grown to 783 00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,120 Speaker 10: love Xavier over the years too, just because they were 784 00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:25,000 Speaker 10: wanting more than you see for a woman. Who do 785 00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:28,520 Speaker 10: you think if you, if you weren't worried about hurting 786 00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,960 Speaker 10: somebody's feelings, do you think Rick Patino Junior is a 787 00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:33,560 Speaker 10: better coach than Wes Miller. 788 00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,440 Speaker 3: I think they're probably on a similar level. I mean, 789 00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:43,640 Speaker 3: we we saw what Patina was did at Minnesota, which 790 00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,800 Speaker 3: was not great. It was okay. When bad, it's okay. 791 00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,600 Speaker 3: We saw him kind of reinvent himself at New Mexico. 792 00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:54,120 Speaker 3: I think we need to see what the next evolution 793 00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:56,040 Speaker 3: of that looks like a Xavier's. 794 00:48:58,600 --> 00:48:58,799 Speaker 7: You know. 795 00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:04,920 Speaker 3: With Wes, I think he would have been great in 796 00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:09,040 Speaker 3: the American Conference, but you make this jump to the 797 00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:13,880 Speaker 3: Big twelve, it's a lot, man. And this is not 798 00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,759 Speaker 3: to cover for West or whatever. They haven't gotten the 799 00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,680 Speaker 3: job done and they've had a chance at the end 800 00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,920 Speaker 3: of each of the last two seasons. They've had a 801 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:26,160 Speaker 3: chance to get where they wanted to get and couldn't 802 00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:29,600 Speaker 3: get over the hump. And that's on him. But boy, 803 00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,759 Speaker 3: this is a This is a much different situation than 804 00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,799 Speaker 3: he was hired into, and I think it takes time 805 00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,960 Speaker 3: to adjust. It took Mick five years to adjust to 806 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:42,600 Speaker 3: the Big East when he first got here. It can 807 00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:43,240 Speaker 3: be challenging. 808 00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:46,800 Speaker 10: And Nick got handed a bag of garbage. 809 00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:50,360 Speaker 3: Correct, Yeah, so did Wes. There wasn't a lot left 810 00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:54,560 Speaker 3: after the John Brandon exit. There was not a lot left. 811 00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:57,840 Speaker 10: And you figure Wes has got to coach against the 812 00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:01,600 Speaker 10: life and Bill self, right, and you know the other 813 00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:02,840 Speaker 10: coaches better than I do. 814 00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:06,720 Speaker 3: But I'm Tommy Lloyd t j Otzelberger, the the that 815 00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:10,440 Speaker 3: that that Drew guy Scott Drew. He's okay, mm hmm. 816 00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:14,399 Speaker 3: It's Jerome tang like it. It's it's a it's it's 817 00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,719 Speaker 3: an uphill climb. I'm gonna get to a little bit 818 00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:22,080 Speaker 3: of uc stuff an hour three. But that that's that's 819 00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,520 Speaker 3: my starting to be my fear. When I really look 820 00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:26,959 Speaker 3: at this season, Mike, when Cincinnati gets into Big Twelve 821 00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:35,880 Speaker 3: play mm hmm, Houston, Texas Tech, Arizona, b y U. 822 00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:46,640 Speaker 3: There's two Iowa State and Kansas. Those are the six 823 00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:48,160 Speaker 3: teams that are picked to come in at the top 824 00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:51,880 Speaker 3: of the Big twelve. Do you have any idea who's 825 00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:53,640 Speaker 3: Cincinnati gonna jump in that group? 826 00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:56,760 Speaker 10: If you had to pick right now of those six 827 00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,759 Speaker 10: that you just mentioned right now, if you had to pick, 828 00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:02,520 Speaker 10: thought we went to conference, would it be Kansas or 829 00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:03,160 Speaker 10: who would it be? 830 00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,960 Speaker 3: No, it wouldn't be Kansas. I don't love Kansas. I 831 00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:11,439 Speaker 3: really love Darren Peterson. Kansas's guards concerned me a little 832 00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,319 Speaker 3: bit still. Peterson and Florie but Dona make a great 833 00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,360 Speaker 3: one two punch, But I worry about the rest of 834 00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:21,960 Speaker 3: it still a little bit. If I had to pick, like, 835 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,840 Speaker 3: who I think really has done the best job constructing 836 00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:31,759 Speaker 3: a roster. It's you. It's BYU. Rob Wright. You might 837 00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:33,640 Speaker 3: not remember Rob Wright. He was the point guard for 838 00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:35,799 Speaker 3: Baylor last year. Very good. 839 00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:38,120 Speaker 7: No, I do remember him. 840 00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,640 Speaker 3: Richie Saunders, who was first team All Big twelve shooter 841 00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:46,439 Speaker 3: for BYU. Kiva Kata who's one of my favorite big 842 00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:50,560 Speaker 3: men in the country. Just a relentless, dirty work, do 843 00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:54,400 Speaker 3: it all type guy. And then aj Debantsa, who's probably 844 00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,319 Speaker 3: the second best player in the sport this year. 845 00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:00,640 Speaker 10: Well, I did a good job interviewing your so cold 846 00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:05,319 Speaker 10: John Mite, thanks for the time, Chad, all right to 847 00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:06,919 Speaker 10: talk to you my friend later. 848 00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:10,879 Speaker 3: Brother, have a goe real quick before the break, Let's 849 00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,799 Speaker 3: go to Dick and Dayton. Dick, how are you? How 850 00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:17,200 Speaker 3: are you doing, Chad? I'm doing great. Mike just interviewed me, 851 00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:19,960 Speaker 3: so uh, I'll interview you now. Pretty good. 852 00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:24,280 Speaker 7: I'll hearing him on Lancelot. Are you sill shocked about 853 00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:25,560 Speaker 7: I've never. 854 00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:29,960 Speaker 16: Seen anything you come back like that? And what happens 855 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:30,960 Speaker 16: to your defense? 856 00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:32,840 Speaker 9: I mean they come more of. 857 00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:34,360 Speaker 16: The way Flackle brings to the steal. 858 00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,960 Speaker 11: The cordinator needs to cool, he does. 859 00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:43,400 Speaker 3: I love you. Firing Al Golden is just rearranging deck chairs. 860 00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:47,880 Speaker 3: On the Titanic Dick. Unfortunately, the players are bad. The 861 00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:53,000 Speaker 3: players are bad. They let Lou they scope scapegoated Lou 862 00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:59,279 Speaker 3: Anaumo and point the finger at him and it wasn't Lou. 863 00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:01,600 Speaker 3: The players are bad. 864 00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:08,120 Speaker 11: And I just wonder, you got nine games left between 865 00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:08,600 Speaker 11: you and I? 866 00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:10,239 Speaker 10: How many you think they're going to win? 867 00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:11,640 Speaker 8: Two in this nine game? 868 00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:14,240 Speaker 3: Two? Three? Maybe two? 869 00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:15,080 Speaker 17: Yeah? 870 00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:16,520 Speaker 18: I was saying the same thing. 871 00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:19,240 Speaker 10: And you know, do you do you think. 872 00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:22,359 Speaker 18: Zach Taylor's job safe because of what happened the last 873 00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,080 Speaker 18: couple of weeks. Is this job saved over? 874 00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:28,080 Speaker 3: Would? I would hope not? I mean, I like Zach, 875 00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:32,879 Speaker 3: but I do too. But at some point in time, 876 00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,680 Speaker 3: you got to go in a different direction. Some point 877 00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:37,200 Speaker 3: in time, you got to go in a different direction 878 00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:38,160 Speaker 3: and try something else. 879 00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,080 Speaker 10: I was listening to Lance last night about the players 880 00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,600 Speaker 10: and the Reds, you know, the money and stuff, that 881 00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:47,600 Speaker 10: we gotta get some good players this year to stay. 882 00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:49,440 Speaker 3: They just told you that they're not going to go 883 00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:50,680 Speaker 3: out and get any good players. 884 00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:53,919 Speaker 7: No they're not, are they? No? 885 00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:56,239 Speaker 10: But well, listen, have a good day. 886 00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:57,480 Speaker 3: Thanks, Deck, appreciate it. 887 00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:00,399 Speaker 18: Okay, bye bye, All right. 888 00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,520 Speaker 3: Let's take a break. Well, the phone lines are open. 889 00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:05,120 Speaker 3: Brian wants to talk some Bengals. We'll get to that 890 00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:08,799 Speaker 3: in just a minute, and uh plenty more. Just take 891 00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,840 Speaker 3: a break more after this The Malwagger Show. Since Anti's 892 00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:12,799 Speaker 3: ESPN thirteen. 893 00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:16,240 Speaker 5: Thirty, Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. 894 00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:21,360 Speaker 6: Traffic from the UC Health Traffic Center. 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The Bengals defense a baller. 908 00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:29,319 Speaker 4: They want to be a battlest the field, in the 909 00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:30,120 Speaker 4: club and everything. 910 00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:33,040 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, they're not in the right city to 911 00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:43,520 Speaker 3: be in the clubs hotel attack man corn bat right, 912 00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,080 Speaker 3: I'm out of though. You're in the club every weekend, 913 00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:46,760 Speaker 3: in the club. 914 00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:53,200 Speaker 4: Not gonna pop out, I'm. 915 00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:58,719 Speaker 3: Kind of Actually, I'm at a point tearing like this 916 00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:02,040 Speaker 3: defense ain't gonna get better. No, I'm at a point 917 00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:03,960 Speaker 3: I want to see him become the worst defense in 918 00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:04,800 Speaker 3: NFL history. 919 00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:09,359 Speaker 4: Be better or be batter? 920 00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:14,680 Speaker 3: Interesting, right, if you're gonna do it, do it, do 921 00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:20,359 Speaker 3: it all the way, like all the way. And here's 922 00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:22,799 Speaker 3: the thing, tarn like, I don't think people have really 923 00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:28,720 Speaker 3: paid too much attention to this. They haven't really played 924 00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:35,360 Speaker 3: the good offenses yet. Like in terms of their schedule, 925 00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:39,920 Speaker 3: the Patriots are coming up, the Ravens are coming up, 926 00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:43,680 Speaker 3: the Bills are coming up, the Cardinals with Jakobe Brissett 927 00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:49,560 Speaker 3: are coming up. Like they've made some bad offenses look good. 928 00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:55,280 Speaker 3: What happens when they play the good ones? 929 00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:01,160 Speaker 4: We're about to find out here and about three weeks. 930 00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:04,680 Speaker 3: We are we are. Brian wants to talk Bengals. Brian, 931 00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:05,040 Speaker 3: what's up? 932 00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:07,359 Speaker 7: Man? Once up? 933 00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:09,759 Speaker 3: Chad Brindle, how's it going? 934 00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:11,839 Speaker 12: It's going all right? 935 00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:16,280 Speaker 19: I won't give you the the yet. Save it for 936 00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:18,960 Speaker 19: the end, Yeah, save it for the end, all right, 937 00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:21,680 Speaker 19: And so I wanted to call and talk about the Bengals. 938 00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:25,479 Speaker 19: But also I just I can't help myself. And Mike, 939 00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:28,560 Speaker 19: I love you. I hear him on every single radio station. 940 00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:29,520 Speaker 8: He's great. 941 00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:31,880 Speaker 19: I love his vigor for sports. That's how I want 942 00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:34,120 Speaker 19: to be when I get a little bit older. But 943 00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:39,600 Speaker 19: damn man, nobody east of the Mississippi cares about the Dodgers. 944 00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:40,280 Speaker 3: But he does. 945 00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:44,240 Speaker 19: I know, but we But he lives in LA like myself. 946 00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:45,240 Speaker 19: I also live in LA. 947 00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:45,919 Speaker 3: Where you live. 948 00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:49,680 Speaker 19: I live probably forty minutes north of La. 949 00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:53,000 Speaker 3: Okay, Like, yeah, I was her most of each. 950 00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:55,960 Speaker 19: Guy, Okay, Yeah, I'm in Ventura County, Okay. 951 00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:57,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love for most of each I miss it 952 00:57:57,920 --> 00:57:58,360 Speaker 3: every day. 953 00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:00,000 Speaker 19: Absolutely. 954 00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:00,280 Speaker 7: Yes. 955 00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:03,360 Speaker 19: I don't listen to LA radio stations because I don't 956 00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:07,960 Speaker 19: care about the Dodgers and they show that. I listened 957 00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:11,000 Speaker 19: to Cincinnati Mike calls in and I got to hear 958 00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:12,200 Speaker 19: ten minutes about the Dodgers. 959 00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:12,800 Speaker 16: What every show? 960 00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:18,720 Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, it was a great world. 961 00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:19,840 Speaker 8: Yeah. 962 00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:20,840 Speaker 12: I don't care about them though. 963 00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:24,400 Speaker 19: But anyways, okay, so the Bengals, I've had a few questions. 964 00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:27,320 Speaker 19: Just then I know you'll probably know better. So you 965 00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:30,640 Speaker 19: know the play where they highlighted it. I forget who 966 00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:33,800 Speaker 19: was on the who was on the call they highlighted 967 00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,720 Speaker 19: it how the they had the extra linement and the 968 00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,920 Speaker 19: tied end to the left, and they basically sent a 969 00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:42,680 Speaker 19: letter to the Bengals and said, Hey, we're running the 970 00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:46,120 Speaker 19: ball to the left, and then our defensive tackles and 971 00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:52,080 Speaker 19: everybody hit the gaps to the opposite side that they 972 00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:53,439 Speaker 19: were running it. Dear for of that play. 973 00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:55,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know what you're talking about. 974 00:58:55,280 --> 00:59:00,480 Speaker 19: So so who is in charge of telling or do 975 00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:03,120 Speaker 19: the defensive lineman decide that on their own during the 976 00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:05,680 Speaker 19: play that they're gonna go the exact opposite of where 977 00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:06,920 Speaker 19: they think that they're gonna run it. 978 00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:11,600 Speaker 3: I mean, it's a communication thing for one. Generally, the 979 00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:14,240 Speaker 3: middle linebacker is the one that's in charge of the 980 00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:18,640 Speaker 3: defense for the most part. Okay, but you still have 981 00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:20,680 Speaker 3: to have and I think this is part of the problem. 982 00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:25,320 Speaker 3: When you watch this defense, it's like there's no play 983 00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:31,280 Speaker 3: recognition whatsoever. There's no you know, that's why these guys 984 00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:33,400 Speaker 3: watch as much film as they do. I don't think 985 00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:36,520 Speaker 3: people have an understanding of how much these guys sit 986 00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:41,600 Speaker 3: in meetings and watch every formation from the other team, 987 00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:45,400 Speaker 3: every tendency from the other team, and the good teams 988 00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:49,920 Speaker 3: retain that they see you get into a tendency and 989 00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:52,400 Speaker 3: they know, for the most part, are here's the two 990 00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:55,880 Speaker 3: or three things that they're trying to do. I don't 991 00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:58,480 Speaker 3: see any of that from this defense. It seems like 992 00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:02,840 Speaker 3: they're like, like they get hit before every snap with 993 01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:04,880 Speaker 3: like the you know the thing in men in black 994 01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:09,640 Speaker 3: that like blanks your brain. Yeah, it's like before every 995 01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:11,680 Speaker 3: snap they hit them with the men in black thing, 996 01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:14,680 Speaker 3: and their brains are just empty, and they're just running 997 01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:16,960 Speaker 3: around like chickens with their heads cut off. You got 998 01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:19,560 Speaker 3: all these guys that were great at the combine, they 999 01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:22,880 Speaker 3: run great forties and bench you know, all the weight, 1000 01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,040 Speaker 3: and then you get them out on the football field 1001 01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:28,919 Speaker 3: and they have no freaking clue what they're looking at, 1002 01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:31,320 Speaker 3: what they're watching, what the other team is trying to 1003 01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:37,600 Speaker 3: accomplish it. It's hard to watch because it just feels unstructured. 1004 01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:40,880 Speaker 3: It's like backyard football. 1005 01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:44,880 Speaker 19: Yeah, exactly what I've seen backyard football better than the 1006 01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:46,439 Speaker 19: day Bengal, But. 1007 01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:50,560 Speaker 3: You've seen backyard football on offense. Nobody in backyard football 1008 01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:51,680 Speaker 3: plays good defense. 1009 01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:55,920 Speaker 19: I don't know back in my day, I could, I 1010 01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:57,320 Speaker 19: could get some picks. 1011 01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:59,720 Speaker 12: Off some people, but I had you did not. 1012 01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:06,240 Speaker 19: Watching it. So it's just like, so now we get 1013 01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:08,640 Speaker 19: rid of Logan Wilson, Well, you know what, I think 1014 01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:10,560 Speaker 19: he's better than a seventh round pick, but you know 1015 01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:12,000 Speaker 19: that's neither here nor there. 1016 01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:14,760 Speaker 3: But the Bengals played him into a seventh round pick. 1017 01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:17,480 Speaker 19: That's true and that and that's what I think the 1018 01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:20,040 Speaker 19: Cowboys are banking on is that, you know, I mean, 1019 01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:22,880 Speaker 19: the Cowboys defense isn't much better. But so now we 1020 01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:27,720 Speaker 19: have now we we substituted Baron Carter and Demetrious Knight 1021 01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:31,760 Speaker 19: into the linebacker spot, and they obviously don't know what 1022 01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:34,360 Speaker 19: the hell they're doing because they can't tell which way 1023 01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:38,360 Speaker 19: to go, you know, in the NFL exactly. So I 1024 01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:42,000 Speaker 19: don't really understand that move besides the fact that we 1025 01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:44,320 Speaker 19: get younger, and we don't even really get younger because 1026 01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:46,160 Speaker 19: Demetrius Knight's already like thirty seven. 1027 01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:49,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got a wife and four kids, like he's 1028 01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:50,200 Speaker 3: been around a while. 1029 01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:54,840 Speaker 19: Yeah, It's just it's it's so tough. I just uh, 1030 01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:57,280 Speaker 19: I actually I was calling earlier and I was on 1031 01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:59,560 Speaker 19: the line, but we just had a we just had 1032 01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:04,000 Speaker 19: our new baby and she's much thank you, Yeah she will. 1033 01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:05,840 Speaker 19: While I was waiting on the line, she ended up 1034 01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:08,480 Speaker 19: spitting up and pooping her pants like the Bengals did. 1035 01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:09,640 Speaker 19: I had to take care of that. 1036 01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:13,080 Speaker 3: You know, you know what she did to you? 1037 01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:20,680 Speaker 10: What I knew that. I also sorry, that was good. 1038 01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:21,320 Speaker 16: I give you that. 1039 01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:22,800 Speaker 3: Okay. 1040 01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:27,360 Speaker 19: So with the draft and everything, right, yeah, and everyone 1041 01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:29,800 Speaker 19: has already said this is like we draft projects. 1042 01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:32,840 Speaker 3: We don't draft the drafts. They don't draft football. 1043 01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:37,800 Speaker 19: Players exactly, and it's very annoying. So what is Duke 1044 01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:39,920 Speaker 19: Tobin to this organization? Because I've heard he's not a 1045 01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:40,720 Speaker 19: general manager? 1046 01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:41,200 Speaker 8: What is he? 1047 01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:45,680 Speaker 3: He's just operations or player personnel, player device. I mean, 1048 01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:49,920 Speaker 3: he's the general manager, like essentially, they just don't want 1049 01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:55,120 Speaker 3: to give anybody that title because I honestly believe that, 1050 01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:57,200 Speaker 3: like at some point in time, Duke's not going to 1051 01:02:57,240 --> 01:02:59,600 Speaker 3: be here anymore and they don't want to have to 1052 01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:05,840 Speaker 3: make somebody else the general manager eventually, right, Like Duke 1053 01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:09,640 Speaker 3: is okay with where, you know whatever, he's essentially from 1054 01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:13,120 Speaker 3: everything I've heard, Mike Brown was best friends with his dad. 1055 01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:17,040 Speaker 3: Duke is considered like he considers Duke's son. He's part 1056 01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:20,440 Speaker 3: of the family. He's not going anywhere, so he's okay 1057 01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:23,960 Speaker 3: with not having that label. But for all intents and purposes, 1058 01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:27,880 Speaker 3: Duke is the general manager. Right, he's bad at it? 1059 01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:29,360 Speaker 7: Yeah? 1060 01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:33,480 Speaker 19: Absolutely, Yeah. So when they when they draft, so they 1061 01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:35,640 Speaker 19: I've heard everybody say that they don't put a lot 1062 01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:39,920 Speaker 19: of blame on on on Zach Taylor because he he 1063 01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:43,880 Speaker 19: doesn't have total control of who they draft. Why wouldn't 1064 01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:48,440 Speaker 19: our head coach have more control over who we draft 1065 01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:52,360 Speaker 19: than Zach ra mean, than Duke Tobin, who I don't 1066 01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:55,960 Speaker 19: even know what his background is or anything like that. Like, 1067 01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:59,080 Speaker 19: why are we letting Duke Cobin just screw up year 1068 01:03:59,160 --> 01:03:59,640 Speaker 19: after year? 1069 01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:04,440 Speaker 3: I mean, it's a great question considering we hear all 1070 01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:06,920 Speaker 3: the time, Well, they don't have a big scouting department 1071 01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:10,720 Speaker 3: because they rely on their coaching staff to do a 1072 01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:13,480 Speaker 3: lot of that work. Well, then Zach's the guy in 1073 01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:15,920 Speaker 3: charge of the coaching staff, So then Zach should have 1074 01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:19,720 Speaker 3: a bigger say in the draft room. It's it's ignorant 1075 01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:25,200 Speaker 3: that in this day and age there's not a twelve 1076 01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:29,240 Speaker 3: person ten to twelve person scouting department. I am at 1077 01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:32,720 Speaker 3: UC practice all the time, right, all the time. Yeah, 1078 01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:37,840 Speaker 3: I see scouts come in and out of UC football practices, 1079 01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:40,600 Speaker 3: especially a year like this year where they've got four 1080 01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:44,160 Speaker 3: guys that are like top one hundred level guys. I 1081 01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:47,680 Speaker 3: see the Bengals once a year. Once a year. They 1082 01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:51,760 Speaker 3: don't come to Camphire Ground. Everybody sends guys scouts to 1083 01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:56,040 Speaker 3: Camphire Ground. The Bengals show up once a year leading 1084 01:04:56,120 --> 01:05:01,200 Speaker 3: up to the season at Nippert Stadium. That's it. That's it. 1085 01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:06,000 Speaker 19: Yeah, coaching recruiters and and and scouts. 1086 01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:11,560 Speaker 3: Here's the thing. Back in the day, coaches were the 1087 01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:16,720 Speaker 3: scouts right like that. But now things have become so detailed, 1088 01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:22,560 Speaker 3: so specific, so you know, results oriented that there are. 1089 01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:25,560 Speaker 3: There's an entire industry of people that are great scouts 1090 01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:29,120 Speaker 3: that watch tape, that know what you're what you're trying 1091 01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:32,120 Speaker 3: to accomplish as an organization, what you want, what you're 1092 01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:34,440 Speaker 3: looking for, and they can go out and say, all right, 1093 01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:37,560 Speaker 3: here's the list of guys that fit that. Coaches don't 1094 01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:39,240 Speaker 3: have the time to do that during the season. They're 1095 01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:40,280 Speaker 3: getting ready for a game. 1096 01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:45,160 Speaker 19: Right, So does that fall on the Brown Daughters? Yes, 1097 01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:47,960 Speaker 19: you know, yeah, start you know looking at that. 1098 01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:52,320 Speaker 3: The UC scouting Department is bigger than the Bengals scouting department. 1099 01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:54,280 Speaker 19: I don't doubt that. 1100 01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:56,760 Speaker 3: No, there's nothing that It's absolutely true. 1101 01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:02,280 Speaker 19: That's it's honestly sticking it makes it. It's it's so hard, 1102 01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:04,720 Speaker 19: you know. I when I called about when my daughter 1103 01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:07,240 Speaker 19: was born, you know, she already has more Bengals jerseys 1104 01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:11,080 Speaker 19: than I do. And he often had said, don't do 1105 01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:13,600 Speaker 19: that to her. And you know what, I was like, 1106 01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:16,000 Speaker 19: what do you mean? Like I have to make her 1107 01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:19,960 Speaker 19: a Bengals fan. You don't happens. I'm just like, oh, 1108 01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:22,480 Speaker 19: you know, maybe I shouldn't put her to that misery. 1109 01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:26,520 Speaker 3: You don't have to. You don't have to. Yeah, we 1110 01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:30,160 Speaker 3: our parents all did it to us. You don't have to. 1111 01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:34,280 Speaker 19: Well, back when I was born, we had just went 1112 01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:36,080 Speaker 19: to two Super Bowls and lost both of them. 1113 01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:37,560 Speaker 8: So I assumed that. 1114 01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:39,840 Speaker 19: They thought that we had brighter days ahead of us. 1115 01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:41,400 Speaker 19: Wasn't going to be a year. 1116 01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:46,200 Speaker 3: They were wrong. Yeah, all right, thanks, Brian, go ahead, 1117 01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:52,560 Speaker 3: do it, take care. There you go. One more Brian, 1118 01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:57,640 Speaker 3: Another Brian. This Brian from the West Side. What's up, man, Brian? 1119 01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:01,680 Speaker 3: Is that the same Brian on two different lines? 1120 01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:01,880 Speaker 10: Here? 1121 01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:03,120 Speaker 7: No? 1122 01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:10,320 Speaker 3: No, shouldn't be Brian. Yeah, we'll put him back on hold. 1123 01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:13,040 Speaker 3: We'll take a break, We'll come back more after this. 1124 01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:16,160 Speaker 3: This is the Moager Show, Sincenati's ESPN fifteen thirty. 1125 01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:20,880 Speaker 5: You've been listening to football in the Nati on ESPN 1126 01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:29,360 Speaker 5: fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals. Cincinnati's 1127 01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:31,280 Speaker 5: ESPN fifteen thirty. 1128 01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:36,480 Speaker 6: Traffic from the UC Health Traffic Center. The Lung Cancer 1129 01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:40,200 Speaker 6: Rapid Access Program at the UC Cancer Center is built 1130 01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:42,520 Speaker 6: to give you a care plan fast meet with a 1131 01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:45,480 Speaker 6: specialist in two days. Call five one, three, five eight 1132 01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:50,680 Speaker 6: five UCCC. On eastbound two seventy five after US fifty 1133 01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:53,360 Speaker 6: two in New Richmond, right lane is blocked from an 1134 01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:57,400 Speaker 6: accident five to ten minute delay back from Tellogg Avenue. Also, 1135 01:07:57,440 --> 01:08:00,600 Speaker 6: on southbound seventy five at Cooper Avenue, the left the 1136 01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:04,000 Speaker 6: lane is blocked from a disabled vehicle on that eazelic 1137 01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:05,200 Speaker 6: with traffic. 1138 01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:11,560 Speaker 8: Wait for it. 1139 01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:16,800 Speaker 3: This is mad. I get more butt than ass trees there. 1140 01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:20,559 Speaker 3: It is I want to get in the way. One 1141 01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:25,400 Speaker 3: of the greatest bars in the history of hip hop terrances. 1142 01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:27,919 Speaker 3: Are you a GTA guy? Terrence? 1143 01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:31,080 Speaker 4: Like, I haven't got into a new one, but I'm 1144 01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:34,280 Speaker 4: a San Andres. 1145 01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:36,680 Speaker 3: They delayed g t A six again, of course they did. 1146 01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:39,800 Speaker 3: It's now November nineteenth, twenty twenty six. 1147 01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:43,600 Speaker 8: Get Mad cuts my style group. 1148 01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:45,160 Speaker 4: At first, ETA come better. Zach Taylor is fired. 1149 01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:48,599 Speaker 3: Oh Zach Taylor. I mean Zach Taylor gets fired. 1150 01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:50,360 Speaker 17: It gets. 1151 01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:55,719 Speaker 3: Zach Taylor gets fired. For sure. It could be twenty 1152 01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:59,400 Speaker 3: twenty nine before this ever actually gets released. That it's 1153 01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:01,960 Speaker 3: been twelve years since GTA five came out. 1154 01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:05,960 Speaker 4: I remember I was still in college twelve. 1155 01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:12,559 Speaker 3: Years since GTA five came out, and they just keep 1156 01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:14,439 Speaker 3: pushing it back and pushing it back, and pushing it 1157 01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:18,280 Speaker 3: back and pushing it back. I'm gonna be too old 1158 01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:20,240 Speaker 3: to play video games by the time this comes out. 1159 01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:28,160 Speaker 4: Only virtual reality about Sam GCA comes out, right, Wow. 1160 01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:31,040 Speaker 3: Are you gonna raise your kids to be fans of 1161 01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:32,639 Speaker 3: your favorite team? Taren? 1162 01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:37,439 Speaker 4: No, no, no, I'm not gonna push my misery on them. 1163 01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:40,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I just I let Kelsey pick. She gets 1164 01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:43,760 Speaker 3: to choose what she chooses. Really the only thing of 1165 01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:48,240 Speaker 3: mine that she has developed as you see basketball, and 1166 01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:52,080 Speaker 3: that's far more so because she's gotten to know the 1167 01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:55,320 Speaker 3: staff and gotten really close to everybody around the program 1168 01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:58,680 Speaker 3: from when Kelly passed and they kind of embraced her 1169 01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:02,960 Speaker 3: and took her in, and you know, we're there for her. 1170 01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:05,920 Speaker 3: So she's a big UC basketball fan, but she could 1171 01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:11,840 Speaker 3: not give two craps about the Bengals, the Reds, pretty 1172 01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:15,719 Speaker 3: much anything else. Cincinnati, don't do that to your kids. 1173 01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:18,599 Speaker 3: Let them pick if they want to be miserable. If 1174 01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:23,559 Speaker 3: they choose to be miserable, fine, but don't put that 1175 01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:24,080 Speaker 3: on them. 1176 01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:28,840 Speaker 4: They kind of adopted wherever Travis Kelsey goes, although he's 1177 01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:29,439 Speaker 4: about to retire. 1178 01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:31,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, she was a she she's been a 1179 01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:33,519 Speaker 3: cheese fan, you know, most of her life because she's 1180 01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:35,840 Speaker 3: she's been a big fan of Travis. But I mean 1181 01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:38,639 Speaker 3: other than that, like she she's got her own rooting interests. 1182 01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:41,439 Speaker 3: She don't need me. She can figure that stuff out herself. 1183 01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:46,920 Speaker 3: I just introduced her to sports and let them decide that. 1184 01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:50,280 Speaker 3: Let it be their own evil, Taren, don't put that 1185 01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:55,160 Speaker 3: evil on yourself. I don't want that guilt of She's 1186 01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:57,760 Speaker 3: thirty years old and still hasn't seen the Bengals win 1187 01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:02,920 Speaker 3: a Super Bowl. I don't want that. Let's take a break. 1188 01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:08,320 Speaker 3: Dan Klaskins Fantasy Football coming up next, Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen. 1189 01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:13,680 Speaker 5: Thirty Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty traffic. 1190 01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:17,360 Speaker 6: From the UC Health Traffic Center. The Lung Cancer Rapid 1191 01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:20,760 Speaker 6: Access Program at the UC Cancer Center is built to 1192 01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:23,600 Speaker 6: give you a care plan fast meet with a specialist 1193 01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:26,160 Speaker 6: in two days. Call five one three five eighty five 1194 01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:31,240 Speaker 6: UCCC On southbound seventy five at Cooper Avenue, the left 1195 01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:34,080 Speaker 6: lane blocked from a disabled vehicle up to about a 1196 01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:37,439 Speaker 6: twenty minute to lay back from Glendale Milford Road on 1197 01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:40,639 Speaker 6: eastbound two seventy five after US fifty two and New 1198 01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:44,200 Speaker 6: Richmond accident blocks off the right lane. I'm at exelic 1199 01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:44,920 Speaker 6: with traffic. 1200 01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:59,120 Speaker 5: This report is sponsored by Elite. 1201 01:11:53,320 --> 01:12:01,280 Speaker 3: One time di right closing out hour number two. Let's 1202 01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:03,599 Speaker 3: get your fantasy football fix. Let's go out to my guy, 1203 01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:08,040 Speaker 3: Dan Klaskins Get sports Info dot com host a fanatics 1204 01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:13,120 Speaker 3: insider football serious XM fantasy Dan, How the heck are we? 1205 01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:15,160 Speaker 7: Let's up? 1206 01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:19,360 Speaker 16: My brother always good to talk to you, and definitely 1207 01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:20,080 Speaker 16: all we could. 1208 01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:20,839 Speaker 8: Talk some fantasy. 1209 01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:23,640 Speaker 3: I'm supposed to not say Get Sports Info anymore. 1210 01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:23,559 Speaker 7: Am I? 1211 01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:27,639 Speaker 16: It's all right, man, Yan takes an old dog dude trick. 1212 01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:30,439 Speaker 3: I mean Dan, We've been working together for like a 1213 01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:31,639 Speaker 3: quarter of a century. 1214 01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:36,439 Speaker 16: Like it's hard, kid, I mean, that's not possible. 1215 01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:37,320 Speaker 8: We're not that old. 1216 01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:40,280 Speaker 3: Okay, you're right, you're right, you're right. We've got some 1217 01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:43,519 Speaker 3: we're hitting week ten. It's time to start looking at 1218 01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:46,880 Speaker 3: the end of your regular season into the playoffs. Let's 1219 01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:49,720 Speaker 3: take a look at the most favorable fantasy schedules down 1220 01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:50,160 Speaker 3: the stretch. 1221 01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:50,400 Speaker 7: Run. 1222 01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:54,920 Speaker 16: Yes, yes, it's definitely at nice sample size so we 1223 01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:58,679 Speaker 16: can start looking ahead. And when you talk about favorable finishes, man, 1224 01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:01,679 Speaker 16: I don't like anybody I think more than Lamar Jackson. 1225 01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:03,920 Speaker 8: He's already through. 1226 01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:04,280 Speaker 7: His by week. 1227 01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:06,759 Speaker 16: He has no negative matchups left. He gets the Steelers 1228 01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:09,599 Speaker 16: sandwiched in between two games with the Bengals in weeks 1229 01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:12,639 Speaker 16: thirteen through fifteen. I think he's poisoned to b QB 1230 01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:14,800 Speaker 16: won the rest of the way in Fantasy and in 1231 01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:17,200 Speaker 16: terms of running back that could be Devon a Chan. 1232 01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:17,880 Speaker 7: I love him. 1233 01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:20,519 Speaker 16: He's also got these back to back matchups with Pittsburgh 1234 01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:23,120 Speaker 16: and Cincinnati the first two weeks of the Fantasy playoffs, 1235 01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:26,320 Speaker 16: then a shootout for Stampa Bay in week seventeen's title 1236 01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:29,519 Speaker 16: game week, so his production can and will come also 1237 01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:32,680 Speaker 16: regardless of game flow. Playing MC company at receiver I'm 1238 01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:36,080 Speaker 16: targeting down the stretch. A slow start for the second 1239 01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:38,920 Speaker 16: year whiteout Jed. He definitely's been eating up though. And 1240 01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:41,280 Speaker 16: you look at the slates ahead, and few teams have 1241 01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:44,120 Speaker 16: better ones for whiteouts, and the Chargers they face the Steelers, 1242 01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:44,680 Speaker 16: the Jakes the. 1243 01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:45,400 Speaker 8: Next two weeks. 1244 01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:47,680 Speaker 16: Do you have a buy in there? But then you 1245 01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:51,639 Speaker 16: get Vegas, Philly, k C. Dallas does end a little 1246 01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:53,880 Speaker 16: brewly there with ucond in Denver, but does not till 1247 01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:57,920 Speaker 16: week seventeen. And then finally Sam Laporta really liking him 1248 01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:00,280 Speaker 16: of Lady exploded a little bit last week. I think 1249 01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:02,960 Speaker 16: the best is yet to come. No buys here either, 1250 01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:06,720 Speaker 16: four plus matchups Washington, Dallas, Pittsburgh, and Chicago and not 1251 01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:09,280 Speaker 16: a single negative matchup remaining on the slate, so he 1252 01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:11,120 Speaker 16: could be a top three tight end the rest. 1253 01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:11,280 Speaker 8: Of the way. 1254 01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:14,720 Speaker 3: Got a lot of buys this week, four buys and 1255 01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:16,639 Speaker 3: a lot of injuries. You have to be on your 1256 01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:19,639 Speaker 3: p's and q's in week ten, then yeah. 1257 01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:20,160 Speaker 17: Same at time. 1258 01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:22,400 Speaker 16: Forget about all these dudes that we're trading the new teams. 1259 01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:25,800 Speaker 16: We got to switch injuries. The injuries of what we 1260 01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:27,400 Speaker 16: want to talk about right here. We do have some 1261 01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:30,479 Speaker 16: updates now that we're through that second big day of practice, 1262 01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:33,000 Speaker 16: and I mean the most gruesome injury of last week 1263 01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:35,519 Speaker 16: was the one we all watched. Jaydon Daniels sustained that 1264 01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:38,200 Speaker 16: non throwing arm dislocated elbow. 1265 01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:38,840 Speaker 8: It's going to be. 1266 01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:42,080 Speaker 16: Marcus Mariota until further notice. There in Washington. The whole 1267 01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:44,800 Speaker 16: team's riddled by injuries. It's been a lost season two 1268 01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:47,280 Speaker 16: injury for White Out Terry McLaurin, and I expect him 1269 01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:49,600 Speaker 16: to sit again this week with the quad cooking a 1270 01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:52,040 Speaker 16: couper watching him with the ribs issue. Not as concerned 1271 01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:54,840 Speaker 16: about that one as yet. Brian Thomas Junior for the Jags, 1272 01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:57,439 Speaker 16: he didn't practice for the second straight day. He's training 1273 01:14:57,439 --> 01:15:00,360 Speaker 16: towards being out here with that ankle injury. AJ Brown 1274 01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:02,800 Speaker 16: he's got a hamstring issue. He's trying to get through. 1275 01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:05,320 Speaker 16: The Eagles digets. Tae Kwon Barkley back coming out of 1276 01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:07,280 Speaker 16: that buy off the groin injury. So I'm feeling good 1277 01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:09,880 Speaker 16: about him. You should be feeling good about Brown's rookie 1278 01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:13,759 Speaker 16: Quinn Shawn Jenkins. He's also practicing playing through that shoulder 1279 01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:16,400 Speaker 16: ac joint. Bucky Irvin coming out of the by the 1280 01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:19,800 Speaker 16: week though still not practicing again today, He's probably not 1281 01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:22,160 Speaker 16: going to play. Rashad whites day the back end RB 1282 01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:26,040 Speaker 16: two there for the Tampa Bay Bucks. It's Aaron Jones 1283 01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:28,559 Speaker 16: to be a situation to watch on Friday the Limited 1284 01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:32,120 Speaker 16: Today he's got a shoulder and a tow issue. Ramondre 1285 01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:35,599 Speaker 16: Stevenson didn't practice today, so another week he could be out. 1286 01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:38,200 Speaker 16: Trevon Henderson really didn't deliver all we were hoping for, 1287 01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:41,280 Speaker 16: whichhaed you know the local star there last week, and 1288 01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:44,559 Speaker 16: I know fantasy managers are itching for the Wintonwoods grad 1289 01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:47,599 Speaker 16: to get firing up. Maybe it happens this week. Tucker 1290 01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:51,160 Speaker 16: Craft acl one of my most costly injuries in my 1291 01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:54,719 Speaker 16: fantasy portfolio last week, watching one of my favorite sleeper 1292 01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:56,719 Speaker 16: tight ends get carted off the field. 1293 01:15:56,800 --> 01:15:57,519 Speaker 9: So I'm not. 1294 01:15:57,520 --> 01:16:00,120 Speaker 16: Buying into Luke Musgrave be in this hot waiver wire. 1295 01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:01,120 Speaker 8: People are, But. 1296 01:16:01,240 --> 01:16:04,639 Speaker 16: That's a ding for the Packers passing attack CJ trail. 1297 01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:07,960 Speaker 16: He's already been rolled out with him cushion. So Davis 1298 01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:10,080 Speaker 16: Mills for the Texans this week, understand. 1299 01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:15,120 Speaker 3: Josh Wiley activated for the Packers. Keep it eye. Oh 1300 01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:19,840 Speaker 3: come on, man, We'll. 1301 01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:19,160 Speaker 8: Stick to Michael. 1302 01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:21,040 Speaker 16: We'll stick to Michael Mayer's right tight end. 1303 01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:25,439 Speaker 3: Talking Week ten lineup, studs, duds, and sleepers. Let's start 1304 01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:26,240 Speaker 3: with the studs. 1305 01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:29,280 Speaker 16: Yeah, one of my favorite players of the season, man 1306 01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:33,360 Speaker 16: Jackson Dart. Love him this week at Chicago six qbs 1307 01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:36,280 Speaker 16: to throwing multiple tds versus the Bears. Dart has accounted 1308 01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:38,920 Speaker 16: for multiple scores in all six of his starts he's 1309 01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:41,680 Speaker 16: made during his breakout rookie season. He's one of my 1310 01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:44,920 Speaker 16: favorite plays this week at running back. That's Rico. Dabble 1311 01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:47,439 Speaker 16: didn't really mention him and the injury report. He didn't 1312 01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:49,880 Speaker 16: practice acually limited, but I expect you to play. He 1313 01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:52,519 Speaker 16: just getting them rasked after that monster performance he had 1314 01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:54,640 Speaker 16: and the Panthers upset. He's a top five running back 1315 01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:56,760 Speaker 16: this week versus Saints, and a top ten running back 1316 01:16:56,800 --> 01:16:59,200 Speaker 16: the rest of the way. On the dud side, j 1317 01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:02,080 Speaker 16: corysky Merrit Bill, I don't care what you call him. 1318 01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:05,000 Speaker 16: He's been a fantasy bust. He cannot be trusted even 1319 01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:07,920 Speaker 16: as a flex player. On the dicey times, I'm sitting him, 1320 01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:12,320 Speaker 16: and as I already mentioned, injury depleted Commander's offensive tough 1321 01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:14,680 Speaker 16: match up here with Detroit Mark Andrews. He got two 1322 01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:17,479 Speaker 16: touchdowns last week in Minnesota, but I'm not going or 1323 01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:19,560 Speaker 16: excuse me for the Ravens. I'm not convinced they'll be 1324 01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:22,040 Speaker 16: able to do it this week at Minnesota. I think 1325 01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:26,040 Speaker 16: he's at my top fifteen. Isaiah likely also looking a 1326 01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:28,559 Speaker 16: little better there. And my sleepers of the week love 1327 01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:31,080 Speaker 16: me some. Sam Darnold to be twelve on the season. 1328 01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:33,559 Speaker 16: Top ten play this week versus the Cardinals coming off 1329 01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:37,080 Speaker 16: that five TV performance a week ago. And Troy Franklin, 1330 01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:39,519 Speaker 16: he's been the guy. We're gonna watch him tonight. He's 1331 01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:42,160 Speaker 16: been red hot a receiver out performing Courtland sudden chat, 1332 01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:44,000 Speaker 16: I'm calling Brady Yards and a touchdown tonight. 1333 01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:45,479 Speaker 10: First Las Vegas before. 1334 01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:47,479 Speaker 3: We let you go to the dav five k is 1335 01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:49,240 Speaker 3: this Saturday at the Banks. Tell us more. 1336 01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:53,040 Speaker 16: Yeah, man really fired up about this. It's going to 1337 01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:56,679 Speaker 16: be another great event. 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Since 1354 01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:39,320 Speaker 3: that he's ESPN fifteen thirty, it's to win one thousand dollars. 1355 01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:44,200 Speaker 1: Enter this nationwide keyword on our website, man cash, that's cash. 1356 01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:45,280 Speaker 8: Enter it now. 1357 01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:50,040 Speaker 2: No one covers the Bengals like ESPN and fifteen thirty 1358 01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:52,120 Speaker 2: Cincinnatis Sports Station. 1359 01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:11,839 Speaker 3: Here we go, our number three, cruising through a Thursday, 1360 01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:15,200 Speaker 3: beautiful Thursday outside here in the Queen City. Chad Brendel 1361 01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:29,400 Speaker 3: in FROMO Eggar a little early there. Thank you for 1362 01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:35,920 Speaker 3: choosing me, appreciate it. I think I think we've got 1363 01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:40,400 Speaker 3: Jay Morrison coming up in about twenty minutes, fifteen minutes, 1364 01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:43,680 Speaker 3: talk some Bengals. We'll get to a little bit more 1365 01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:47,840 Speaker 3: Reds conversation as well, and we'll talk to you. That 1366 01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:50,519 Speaker 3: includes Ron and Milford, who's been hanging on for a while. 1367 01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:56,280 Speaker 3: So Ron, you're kicking off hour three. What's going on? Ron? 1368 01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:59,840 Speaker 14: This is a complete yeah chat, Yeah, gotcha. 1369 01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:04,760 Speaker 10: This is a complete dumpster fire. I mean, I don't 1370 01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:05,880 Speaker 10: know what we expect to. 1371 01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:10,120 Speaker 14: Do because this defense is at least two to three years. 1372 01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:11,799 Speaker 12: Away from being able to stop anyone. 1373 01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:16,760 Speaker 3: Unfortunately, you're right, the fix is obviously not going to 1374 01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:20,760 Speaker 3: come in free agency. They have made their choice when 1375 01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:24,040 Speaker 3: it comes to where that type of money is allocated. 1376 01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:27,479 Speaker 3: It's allocated to Joe, Jamar and t. You're not gonna 1377 01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:29,439 Speaker 3: have a lot to work with in the free agent pool. 1378 01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:33,880 Speaker 3: And I don't know what is salagable of all these 1379 01:20:33,920 --> 01:20:37,599 Speaker 3: guys that they've gotten in the draft, Like, where are 1380 01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:42,040 Speaker 3: you gonna go with? You know, let's go the last 1381 01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:45,719 Speaker 3: three years Miles Murphy, DJ Turner looks like a piece 1382 01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:49,800 Speaker 3: that you can build around, Jordan Battle, DJ Ivy. You 1383 01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:55,280 Speaker 3: got one guy there, Chris Jenkins, McKinley, Jackson, Josh Newton, 1384 01:20:56,080 --> 01:21:02,360 Speaker 3: Cedric Johnson, Dejon Anthony and then Shamar Stewart, Demetrius Knight, 1385 01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:08,000 Speaker 3: Barret Carter. What are you building around? You're building around. 1386 01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:11,080 Speaker 3: You got one guy, DJ Turner you feel comfortable with. 1387 01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:14,000 Speaker 3: I don't think any of the other guys can play yet. 1388 01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:19,080 Speaker 3: Early for Night and Carter, but they look completely lost 1389 01:21:20,080 --> 01:21:20,639 Speaker 3: in the NFL. 1390 01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:25,960 Speaker 14: They do, and Chad, Jordan battles lost and not only 1391 01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:29,400 Speaker 14: has he always lost, but he couldn't tackle you or me. 1392 01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:34,800 Speaker 3: I could put the moves on Jordan battle, Oh, there's 1393 01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:35,240 Speaker 3: no doubt. 1394 01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:36,920 Speaker 14: And I think we could probably put the moves on 1395 01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:37,960 Speaker 14: Gino's stone. 1396 01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:42,320 Speaker 3: Too, probably probably Like they're just they're in as bad 1397 01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:45,519 Speaker 3: as shape. And look, the crazy part is I said 1398 01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:48,880 Speaker 3: this earlier. When you're talking about the worst defenses in 1399 01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:53,400 Speaker 3: NFL history, they're like, there's multiple Bengals squads. You've got 1400 01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:56,519 Speaker 3: a clear to be the worst defense in Bengals history. 1401 01:21:56,720 --> 01:22:00,599 Speaker 3: I'm forty eight now. I don't remember them ever being 1402 01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:03,679 Speaker 3: in a worse place than this defensively. 1403 01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:08,240 Speaker 14: No, and that goes back to the you know, we're 1404 01:22:08,240 --> 01:22:11,960 Speaker 14: about the same age, Chad, I'm forty nine. It goes 1405 01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:14,599 Speaker 14: back to the years when we had bad players, like. 1406 01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:16,400 Speaker 3: The last decade when we had. 1407 01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:20,360 Speaker 14: Achille Smith and all those guys. Yeah, bad defenses, but 1408 01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:22,760 Speaker 14: I don't remember defense that couldn't. 1409 01:22:22,439 --> 01:22:25,680 Speaker 3: Stop anything anything. And they're getting ready to play the 1410 01:22:25,720 --> 01:22:27,479 Speaker 3: good offenses on their schedule. 1411 01:22:28,560 --> 01:22:31,400 Speaker 14: I know, so Chad tell me this because I've been 1412 01:22:31,439 --> 01:22:35,479 Speaker 14: talking to my friends. There's not I mean, even if 1413 01:22:35,479 --> 01:22:38,360 Speaker 14: they Bengals try, I don't know if they can eke 1414 01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:40,400 Speaker 14: out two more wins based on the schedule. 1415 01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:42,040 Speaker 3: I don't feel great. I mean, I don't feel like 1416 01:22:42,040 --> 01:22:46,120 Speaker 3: they can stop anybody. We know they can score forty 1417 01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:47,000 Speaker 3: points and lose. 1418 01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:52,439 Speaker 14: Yes, so well, I think the next next thing off 1419 01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:54,439 Speaker 14: is for them to try to score fifty and lose. 1420 01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:57,200 Speaker 3: They can do it. I've got faith in them. 1421 01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:00,920 Speaker 10: I have absolute faith. 1422 01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:05,599 Speaker 3: Then, like, look that that was the most surefire thing ever, 1423 01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:09,360 Speaker 3: right when they scored to go up one with fifty 1424 01:23:09,400 --> 01:23:13,559 Speaker 3: four seconds left, that the Bears were at worst kicking 1425 01:23:13,600 --> 01:23:14,800 Speaker 3: a field goal to win that game. 1426 01:23:16,120 --> 01:23:18,599 Speaker 14: Yeah, I thought to myself, why are we in such 1427 01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:21,439 Speaker 14: a hurry to score? I thought to myself, even though 1428 01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:24,160 Speaker 14: Chase Brown pretty much got stuffed on first and goal, 1429 01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:26,000 Speaker 14: I'm like, why don't we run the ball here. 1430 01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:26,719 Speaker 10: On second goal? 1431 01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:30,280 Speaker 14: Because I know that the Bears pass defense can't stop anything, 1432 01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:32,639 Speaker 14: so we knew that was a certainty. They couldn't stop 1433 01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:35,799 Speaker 14: Joe Flacco and his bumb arms. So I thought to myself, 1434 01:23:36,040 --> 01:23:37,400 Speaker 14: you know what, even if we have to try to 1435 01:23:37,439 --> 01:23:39,880 Speaker 14: score on third or fourth down, I'm okay with that 1436 01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:41,200 Speaker 14: as long as the clock's running. 1437 01:23:41,680 --> 01:23:43,639 Speaker 3: Well, the problem is they had one more time out 1438 01:23:43,680 --> 01:23:47,080 Speaker 3: to burn. You at least could have made him burn that, 1439 01:23:47,400 --> 01:23:51,080 Speaker 3: which would have changed maybe how that final possession played out. 1440 01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:56,080 Speaker 3: But yeah, there was no doubt in my mind, fifty 1441 01:23:56,120 --> 01:23:59,439 Speaker 3: four seconds left leading by one, that was the Like 1442 01:23:59,680 --> 01:24:03,000 Speaker 3: if I was a gambling person, I would have been 1443 01:24:03,040 --> 01:24:06,280 Speaker 3: tempted to put all the money I had on the 1444 01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:08,599 Speaker 3: Bears winning that game, like it was. It was a 1445 01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:10,080 Speaker 3: lock at that point. 1446 01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:13,479 Speaker 14: Yeah, So, Chad, I don't really don't know. 1447 01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:15,320 Speaker 10: Like I said, it's such a dumpster fire. 1448 01:24:15,360 --> 01:24:18,519 Speaker 14: I'm depressed because it's two or three years of trying 1449 01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:21,240 Speaker 14: to rebuild this defense. And like you said, I mean, 1450 01:24:21,240 --> 01:24:23,320 Speaker 14: they could try to spend some money in free agency 1451 01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:26,800 Speaker 14: if they don't read that they don't franchise tag Trey Hendrickson. 1452 01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:30,040 Speaker 14: But even then, I mean, you can't replace eleven guys 1453 01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:32,840 Speaker 14: in free agency, and you can't replace it with you know, 1454 01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:36,479 Speaker 14: Duke Tobin drafting the likes of Miles Murphy and these 1455 01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:39,559 Speaker 14: other clowns. I mean Miles Murphy, I mean he's lucky 1456 01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:39,880 Speaker 14: if he. 1457 01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:40,599 Speaker 10: Smells a sack. 1458 01:24:41,160 --> 01:24:42,920 Speaker 14: I mean you and I could probably get a sack 1459 01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:43,799 Speaker 14: before he does. 1460 01:24:44,200 --> 01:24:47,880 Speaker 3: It's amazing to me. And this was you know, this 1461 01:24:47,960 --> 01:24:52,000 Speaker 3: is my point of the day for the Bengals. Who 1462 01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:58,160 Speaker 3: in that building is saying what we're doing isn't working. 1463 01:24:59,280 --> 01:25:03,320 Speaker 3: Whatever philosophy, And like I said, the plan was right. 1464 01:25:04,040 --> 01:25:07,120 Speaker 3: The plan that we're gonna take these drafts twenty three, 1465 01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:11,080 Speaker 3: twenty four to twenty five, when we know we're gonna 1466 01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:14,720 Speaker 3: pay Burrow, We're gonna pay Chase, they ended up paying Higgins. 1467 01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:17,719 Speaker 3: We know we're gonna need to be young on defense, 1468 01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:20,599 Speaker 3: we know that we know we're gonna need to spend 1469 01:25:20,680 --> 01:25:25,360 Speaker 3: almost all of our premium picks on offensive line and defense. 1470 01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:30,400 Speaker 3: The plan was right. The execution has been as bad 1471 01:25:30,439 --> 01:25:35,120 Speaker 3: as I've ever seen anything in sports executed. Who is 1472 01:25:35,200 --> 01:25:39,960 Speaker 3: going to end that building say what we did didn't work? 1473 01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:44,040 Speaker 3: And why? Because all we hear from them and essentially 1474 01:25:44,120 --> 01:25:48,000 Speaker 3: it's only from Zach because nobody else faces the music 1475 01:25:48,040 --> 01:25:51,880 Speaker 3: and talks to the public. But who's gonna say this 1476 01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:55,400 Speaker 3: didn't work? Why didn't it work? And how do we 1477 01:25:55,439 --> 01:25:58,720 Speaker 3: fix it? Instead of saying we like what we got, 1478 01:26:00,479 --> 01:26:02,320 Speaker 3: you don't like what you got? Your line through your 1479 01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:04,600 Speaker 3: damn teeth if you watch that tape and say we 1480 01:26:04,760 --> 01:26:05,800 Speaker 3: like what we got? 1481 01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:10,360 Speaker 14: Yeah, I know, it's just I mean, how can I 1482 01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:13,160 Speaker 14: how can they say these things with the straight face? 1483 01:26:14,640 --> 01:26:17,720 Speaker 3: Because I don't think there's anybody in the building that 1484 01:26:17,920 --> 01:26:23,320 Speaker 3: is willing to stand up and say, you screwed up. Whoever, Duke, 1485 01:26:23,479 --> 01:26:27,840 Speaker 3: whoever Katie, whoever's in charge of the plan, you screwed up. 1486 01:26:28,200 --> 01:26:31,200 Speaker 3: We did not execute the plan. And now we're in 1487 01:26:31,280 --> 01:26:33,479 Speaker 3: as bad a place as you can possibly be in 1488 01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:37,720 Speaker 3: the NFL. And that's with a franchise quarterback signed to 1489 01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:41,599 Speaker 3: a quarter of a billion dollar deal and a defense 1490 01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:47,679 Speaker 3: that we are gonna need three years at best to fix, 1491 01:26:48,280 --> 01:26:50,719 Speaker 3: three years at best to fix. 1492 01:26:52,120 --> 01:26:54,320 Speaker 14: Yeah, that's I mean, and nuts, you know, hitting on 1493 01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:58,960 Speaker 14: all your draft picks probably and also signing you know, 1494 01:26:59,240 --> 01:27:02,160 Speaker 14: two or three guys a free agency because I can't 1495 01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:04,519 Speaker 14: see jo I can't see how any of. 1496 01:27:04,479 --> 01:27:06,760 Speaker 12: These guys can come back and start next year. 1497 01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:09,559 Speaker 14: I mean, we've tried t y Slayton, and he said 1498 01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:11,240 Speaker 14: that he was gonna come in and stop the running. 1499 01:27:11,360 --> 01:27:12,040 Speaker 7: No problem. 1500 01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:13,960 Speaker 14: Well, yeah, he's had a big problem. 1501 01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:15,000 Speaker 12: He can't stop the run. 1502 01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:18,160 Speaker 14: We gave uh bj Hill because we love him a 1503 01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:20,720 Speaker 14: new contract. He can't really do anything for us. I mean, 1504 01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:23,639 Speaker 14: there's not a guy on that defense I want other 1505 01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:26,320 Speaker 14: than Hendrickson. And now you know, we know why the 1506 01:27:26,360 --> 01:27:28,240 Speaker 14: Bengals didn't want to give him a long term. 1507 01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:34,000 Speaker 10: Contract, because you know he's gonna well, he's bound to get. 1508 01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:37,160 Speaker 14: Dand up now at his age, and he didn't. He 1509 01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:39,760 Speaker 14: didn't understand that. And that's, you know, I guess, a 1510 01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:43,320 Speaker 14: valid point. And so there's not when you have eleven 1511 01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:45,760 Speaker 14: guys and you need to replace all eleven, that's a 1512 01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:46,599 Speaker 14: major problem. 1513 01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:50,679 Speaker 3: It's not great, Bob, not great. Thanks Ron, appreciate it, man, 1514 01:27:52,320 --> 01:27:55,559 Speaker 3: thank you. Let's go to Jim. Jim wants to mix 1515 01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:58,599 Speaker 3: it up and talk World Series. Jim and Milfred. How's 1516 01:27:58,600 --> 01:27:59,520 Speaker 3: it going. 1517 01:28:00,439 --> 01:28:03,440 Speaker 18: Yeah, I'm sorry. You know, everybody's moved off from baseball, 1518 01:28:03,560 --> 01:28:06,880 Speaker 18: but you know, I don't like the Dodgers and I 1519 01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:10,160 Speaker 18: was hoping for them to lose. And so when I 1520 01:28:10,200 --> 01:28:13,960 Speaker 18: saw that play, the force out play at home plate, 1521 01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:20,920 Speaker 18: my question is that. I don't think slidings the proper 1522 01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:24,519 Speaker 18: way to like approach that plate. Can you run through 1523 01:28:25,160 --> 01:28:27,680 Speaker 18: home plate or with the catcher there, do you have 1524 01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:29,120 Speaker 18: to do some kind of slide? 1525 01:28:29,320 --> 01:28:31,559 Speaker 3: No, I mean he would not have. The catcher was 1526 01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:34,080 Speaker 3: on the other side of the plate, so it wasn't 1527 01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:36,720 Speaker 3: like there was going to be a collision before the 1528 01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:39,799 Speaker 3: ball got there, so they could have run through the plate. 1529 01:28:41,240 --> 01:28:45,000 Speaker 18: I mean, wouldn't you run, like you're saying, both through 1530 01:28:45,240 --> 01:28:47,360 Speaker 18: through the plate? Why did the guy slide? 1531 01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:48,920 Speaker 3: I mean it was. 1532 01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:53,559 Speaker 18: Literally like an inch he was out by Like jees. 1533 01:28:53,240 --> 01:28:57,360 Speaker 3: I mean that did playing baseball all your life like 1534 01:28:57,520 --> 01:29:02,719 Speaker 3: you slide? You've always slid in that scenari right, maybe 1535 01:29:02,720 --> 01:29:05,000 Speaker 3: it's a fundamental thing that maybe maybe you shouldn't. 1536 01:29:06,400 --> 01:29:09,840 Speaker 18: I would think the third base coach, I mean, he's 1537 01:29:09,840 --> 01:29:13,400 Speaker 18: made one hundred thousand, two hundred thousand dollars. Wouldn't his 1538 01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:16,760 Speaker 18: job being like, okay, if you get forced out at 1539 01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:18,479 Speaker 18: the plate, run through. 1540 01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:20,800 Speaker 7: I mean, peace, I don't know. 1541 01:29:21,160 --> 01:29:21,320 Speaker 8: I was. 1542 01:29:21,640 --> 01:29:24,439 Speaker 18: I was very upset. I was just like, clearly, why 1543 01:29:24,479 --> 01:29:28,879 Speaker 18: would you slide? You lily like lost the World Series 1544 01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:33,080 Speaker 18: by an edge? Why didn't you run through the plate 1545 01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:34,240 Speaker 18: like you stained. 1546 01:29:34,040 --> 01:29:34,840 Speaker 7: Bolts or something. 1547 01:29:35,080 --> 01:29:37,240 Speaker 3: No, I get it. I get it. It's frustrating when 1548 01:29:37,280 --> 01:29:40,559 Speaker 3: when when what you don't want to happen falls short 1549 01:29:40,600 --> 01:29:43,839 Speaker 3: because of something like that, you're searching for any reason 1550 01:29:43,880 --> 01:29:46,840 Speaker 3: you can on how it could have been different. That's 1551 01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:49,320 Speaker 3: definitely one of those ways that it could have been different. 1552 01:29:49,360 --> 01:29:53,000 Speaker 3: But I mean, I assume you've played baseball growing up. 1553 01:29:53,439 --> 01:29:59,160 Speaker 3: You slide in that situation. Your natural instincts says to slide. 1554 01:29:59,400 --> 01:30:01,960 Speaker 18: Yeah, I get you fall back on your training or 1555 01:30:02,200 --> 01:30:03,439 Speaker 18: in your instincts, but. 1556 01:30:04,560 --> 01:30:05,040 Speaker 7: I don't know. 1557 01:30:05,160 --> 01:30:05,559 Speaker 9: I don't know. 1558 01:30:05,600 --> 01:30:08,479 Speaker 18: If I was on third base, I'd be like dude 1559 01:30:08,520 --> 01:30:13,439 Speaker 18: on ninety feet away from getting free dinner for the 1560 01:30:13,479 --> 01:30:14,000 Speaker 18: rest of my. 1561 01:30:15,600 --> 01:30:18,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, right, you know for sure what. 1562 01:30:18,200 --> 01:30:20,600 Speaker 18: Would be going through my head. I'd be like I 1563 01:30:20,640 --> 01:30:23,680 Speaker 18: would have every lunch and every dinner bought for me 1564 01:30:23,880 --> 01:30:27,240 Speaker 18: until I die, till the end of time, to the. 1565 01:30:27,280 --> 01:30:27,840 Speaker 7: End of time. 1566 01:30:27,960 --> 01:30:31,000 Speaker 18: All I need is go is ninety feet And I 1567 01:30:31,040 --> 01:30:34,719 Speaker 18: think me personally, I would have run like you seen bowl. 1568 01:30:35,360 --> 01:30:37,800 Speaker 18: I probably wouldn't have slowed down until I hit the 1569 01:30:38,040 --> 01:30:40,679 Speaker 18: like the backstop or I don't. 1570 01:30:40,479 --> 01:30:43,479 Speaker 3: Know, man, straight down the straight down the steps into 1571 01:30:43,560 --> 01:30:45,719 Speaker 3: the clubhouse for the champagne. 1572 01:30:46,600 --> 01:30:48,559 Speaker 18: There you go, man, I mean. 1573 01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:51,080 Speaker 7: Frustrating. 1574 01:30:51,280 --> 01:30:52,680 Speaker 3: I get it. 1575 01:30:53,160 --> 01:30:58,320 Speaker 18: The giant you know, the you know, the giant players 1576 01:30:58,400 --> 01:31:05,640 Speaker 18: of of Los Angeles, just you know they play like 1577 01:31:05,680 --> 01:31:06,760 Speaker 18: their ten feet tall. 1578 01:31:06,960 --> 01:31:09,120 Speaker 8: Yes, disappointing. 1579 01:31:09,360 --> 01:31:11,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, Thanks Jem, appreciate it. I have a 1580 01:31:11,360 --> 01:31:15,080 Speaker 3: great day. All right, Let's take a break. Jay Morrison, 1581 01:31:15,280 --> 01:31:18,719 Speaker 3: Jay as Jay good? Do we know Tara? 1582 01:31:19,720 --> 01:31:19,920 Speaker 7: Yeah? 1583 01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:20,519 Speaker 4: Jay's next? 1584 01:31:20,560 --> 01:31:24,040 Speaker 3: Okay, j Morrison next? Since at He's ESPN fifteen. 1585 01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:28,439 Speaker 5: Thirty, Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. 1586 01:31:28,479 --> 01:31:32,599 Speaker 6: Traffic from the UC Health Traffic Center. The Lung Cancer 1587 01:31:32,680 --> 01:31:36,320 Speaker 6: Rapid Access Program at the UC Cancer Center is built 1588 01:31:36,360 --> 01:31:38,640 Speaker 6: to give you a care plan fast meet with a 1589 01:31:38,640 --> 01:31:41,599 Speaker 6: specialist in two days. 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Let's Talk 1605 01:32:52,920 --> 01:32:56,719 Speaker 3: some Bengals. Continue the Bengals Talk as we are joined 1606 01:32:56,960 --> 01:33:02,639 Speaker 3: by Jay Morrison, who is now DBAT writer for sis 1607 01:33:02,680 --> 01:33:07,360 Speaker 3: Bengals Talk dot Com, also a podcast with Paul Daaner 1608 01:33:07,439 --> 01:33:12,439 Speaker 3: and multiple other avenues to get his Bengals content. Jay, 1609 01:33:12,520 --> 01:33:17,440 Speaker 3: have you tried the new fried turkey gobbler from Arby's yet? 1610 01:33:19,680 --> 01:33:20,360 Speaker 8: I haven't. 1611 01:33:20,400 --> 01:33:23,479 Speaker 12: I want to say they've had that in the past. 1612 01:33:23,479 --> 01:33:24,479 Speaker 8: It's a seasonal thing. 1613 01:33:24,520 --> 01:33:26,680 Speaker 12: I think I have had it in the past, and 1614 01:33:26,840 --> 01:33:28,840 Speaker 12: like everything from Arby's, it's really good. 1615 01:33:29,040 --> 01:33:33,160 Speaker 3: I'm a big Arby's guy. You know my favorite Arby's item, Jay, 1616 01:33:33,840 --> 01:33:38,280 Speaker 3: what's that? The jalapeno poppers with the Bronco berry sauce. 1617 01:33:39,640 --> 01:33:40,479 Speaker 8: A right there with you. 1618 01:33:40,520 --> 01:33:42,000 Speaker 12: I tell people all the time, there as good as 1619 01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:44,880 Speaker 12: you'll get anywhere. I get them every time. I don't 1620 01:33:44,920 --> 01:33:45,800 Speaker 12: even get prized. 1621 01:33:45,520 --> 01:33:46,000 Speaker 7: When I go there. 1622 01:33:46,040 --> 01:33:46,960 Speaker 8: I don't either side. 1623 01:33:47,400 --> 01:33:49,759 Speaker 3: I get those is my side every time. One because 1624 01:33:49,800 --> 01:33:53,559 Speaker 3: the Jalapeno poppers are legit good and I could bathe 1625 01:33:53,560 --> 01:33:55,800 Speaker 3: in Bronco berry sauce. That stuff is amazing. 1626 01:33:57,280 --> 01:33:59,640 Speaker 12: It is. I always get two for a small and 1627 01:33:59,720 --> 01:34:02,120 Speaker 12: four for a large. Yeah, it's good. Start with you. 1628 01:34:02,200 --> 01:34:04,479 Speaker 12: They're really good, and they're not. They're not like for 1629 01:34:04,520 --> 01:34:06,760 Speaker 12: jalopeno poppers. Think that people think they're gonna be really hot. 1630 01:34:06,760 --> 01:34:07,040 Speaker 8: They're not. 1631 01:34:07,080 --> 01:34:09,880 Speaker 12: They're not that spicy each they're pretty much niclavor. 1632 01:34:10,120 --> 01:34:10,360 Speaker 8: Yeah. 1633 01:34:10,439 --> 01:34:12,479 Speaker 3: I love them. I'm a big fan, So we're we're 1634 01:34:12,560 --> 01:34:14,000 Speaker 3: kindred RB's spirits. 1635 01:34:14,240 --> 01:34:17,719 Speaker 12: Jay, I would. 1636 01:34:17,560 --> 01:34:20,280 Speaker 3: Rather talk about the Jalapeno poppers with the Bronco berry 1637 01:34:20,320 --> 01:34:24,960 Speaker 3: sauce than this Bengals defense. I mean, the problem is, Jay, 1638 01:34:25,000 --> 01:34:28,360 Speaker 3: they're bad. Sometimes you're bad. You know that that happens 1639 01:34:28,400 --> 01:34:32,160 Speaker 3: in sports. Is the legit problem here, though, I don't 1640 01:34:32,200 --> 01:34:34,960 Speaker 3: see a fix, Like, I don't know what the answer 1641 01:34:35,120 --> 01:34:37,240 Speaker 3: is to making this better anytime soon. 1642 01:34:39,360 --> 01:34:39,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know. 1643 01:34:39,880 --> 01:34:40,479 Speaker 8: There is one. 1644 01:34:40,960 --> 01:34:42,679 Speaker 12: That was my question to a lot of the guys 1645 01:34:42,720 --> 01:34:46,960 Speaker 12: after the loss to the Bears. You know, they I 1646 01:34:47,040 --> 01:34:48,840 Speaker 12: kind of phrased it as like, look, since you guys 1647 01:34:48,880 --> 01:34:52,240 Speaker 12: started playing football, you've been taught hard work is the 1648 01:34:52,280 --> 01:34:56,519 Speaker 12: key to success. And by all accounts, coaches, player, everybody says, 1649 01:34:56,960 --> 01:34:59,479 Speaker 12: nobody's given up that this team is working really hard 1650 01:35:00,200 --> 01:35:02,920 Speaker 12: and the results never changed. You guys just have to 1651 01:35:02,960 --> 01:35:05,840 Speaker 12: resign themself to the fact that you're not very good 1652 01:35:05,840 --> 01:35:07,879 Speaker 12: and it's not going to change, and nobody won't. Nobody's 1653 01:35:07,920 --> 01:35:10,240 Speaker 12: biting that. They're saying, you know, you can't look at 1654 01:35:10,280 --> 01:35:11,800 Speaker 12: it that way. You have to keep working. You have 1655 01:35:11,840 --> 01:35:13,360 Speaker 12: to have faith that it's going to get better. But 1656 01:35:14,200 --> 01:35:15,680 Speaker 12: for me on the outside, for I think a lot 1657 01:35:15,680 --> 01:35:18,080 Speaker 12: of people, I just I don't see the fix, and 1658 01:35:18,520 --> 01:35:21,000 Speaker 12: I do kind of go back to last year and 1659 01:35:21,120 --> 01:35:25,120 Speaker 12: how bad they were and then they simplified and they 1660 01:35:25,160 --> 01:35:26,240 Speaker 12: went on that little bit of a. 1661 01:35:26,240 --> 01:35:26,800 Speaker 8: Run at the end. 1662 01:35:26,800 --> 01:35:29,360 Speaker 12: It was a run generated by the offense, but the 1663 01:35:29,360 --> 01:35:32,479 Speaker 12: defense did start playing a little bit better. But this 1664 01:35:32,640 --> 01:35:34,960 Speaker 12: defense is already simple. I don't know how you can 1665 01:35:35,000 --> 01:35:37,479 Speaker 12: get any more simple, right, and they're not going to 1666 01:35:37,520 --> 01:35:40,040 Speaker 12: get more complex. Like Al Golden said this week, he's like, look, 1667 01:35:40,040 --> 01:35:42,880 Speaker 12: we're not going to tax these guys by installing a 1668 01:35:42,920 --> 01:35:45,040 Speaker 12: bunch of new stuff, but you know, you don't want 1669 01:35:45,080 --> 01:35:48,240 Speaker 12: to overburden them with new blitches and new schemes and 1670 01:35:48,280 --> 01:35:50,120 Speaker 12: all that kind of thing. So I think I think 1671 01:35:50,120 --> 01:35:51,880 Speaker 12: they're just kind of stuck. I do think it will 1672 01:35:51,920 --> 01:35:53,960 Speaker 12: help if Trey Henderson comes back. He will help the 1673 01:35:53,960 --> 01:35:56,559 Speaker 12: pass rush, and he will help the secondary, and he 1674 01:35:56,600 --> 01:35:59,880 Speaker 12: will help the linebackers. But I mean, maybe that's all 1675 01:35:59,880 --> 01:36:03,759 Speaker 12: you need. If he's in there and he's getting sacks 1676 01:36:03,800 --> 01:36:06,160 Speaker 12: at the end of the game against the Jets or 1677 01:36:06,200 --> 01:36:08,320 Speaker 12: even pressures against the Jets and the Bears, they probably 1678 01:36:08,360 --> 01:36:10,519 Speaker 12: win both those games, and then they're sitting here at 1679 01:36:10,520 --> 01:36:13,280 Speaker 12: five and four. It's a totally different conversation. But again, 1680 01:36:13,360 --> 01:36:15,920 Speaker 12: there's no guarantee that he's coming back. He's got that 1681 01:36:16,000 --> 01:36:18,840 Speaker 12: hip slash back injury, and it doesn't seem like there's 1682 01:36:18,880 --> 01:36:21,400 Speaker 12: a real timeline on that. I think they're optimistic he 1683 01:36:21,439 --> 01:36:24,559 Speaker 12: can be back for Pittsburgh, but certainly not definite. 1684 01:36:25,040 --> 01:36:27,240 Speaker 3: I mean, that was the worry with Trey from the 1685 01:36:27,280 --> 01:36:29,639 Speaker 3: start though, right as this is a guy that's getting 1686 01:36:29,680 --> 01:36:32,759 Speaker 3: a little long in the tooth, we're not comfortable giving 1687 01:36:32,760 --> 01:36:35,760 Speaker 3: a guy and they have shown this with their philosophy 1688 01:36:35,880 --> 01:36:40,280 Speaker 3: on building the roster. That hit thirty kind of not 1689 01:36:40,360 --> 01:36:44,320 Speaker 3: in our plans anymore. Trey hits thirty, they don't. They 1690 01:36:44,400 --> 01:36:46,200 Speaker 3: look like they want to move on from him, but 1691 01:36:46,240 --> 01:36:48,840 Speaker 3: they don't. This is why, isn't it. 1692 01:36:51,439 --> 01:36:53,479 Speaker 12: I think the bigger part is when they get you know, 1693 01:36:53,560 --> 01:36:55,559 Speaker 12: he'll be thirty one in less than a month the 1694 01:36:55,600 --> 01:36:59,320 Speaker 12: fifth So I think the bigger part is they just 1695 01:36:59,320 --> 01:37:01,800 Speaker 12: break down and the players when they get to that age, 1696 01:37:01,880 --> 01:37:05,680 Speaker 12: especially such a freaky athletic position like defensive end, you 1697 01:37:05,800 --> 01:37:07,800 Speaker 12: just don't kind of see the decline coming. It's just 1698 01:37:07,880 --> 01:37:10,040 Speaker 12: kind of a cliff and there was the fear of that. 1699 01:37:10,120 --> 01:37:12,919 Speaker 12: I think that's what it was, more so than injury. 1700 01:37:13,439 --> 01:37:15,519 Speaker 12: But injury is a part of the equation too. I mean, 1701 01:37:15,560 --> 01:37:18,639 Speaker 12: guy's bodies start breaking down. I mean, you know, look 1702 01:37:18,640 --> 01:37:21,040 Speaker 12: at Joe Flacco's forty and he's dealing with the shoulder 1703 01:37:21,080 --> 01:37:23,519 Speaker 12: and playing through it. But it does happen to guys 1704 01:37:23,520 --> 01:37:25,720 Speaker 12: that get older, and that's that is that's a lot 1705 01:37:25,760 --> 01:37:28,040 Speaker 12: of money to invest in a guy that's on the 1706 01:37:28,040 --> 01:37:31,320 Speaker 12: wrong side of thirty. But he's we've seen him. He 1707 01:37:32,240 --> 01:37:34,200 Speaker 12: has played through a lot. That Super Bowl run he 1708 01:37:34,240 --> 01:37:36,400 Speaker 12: was playing through a really bad back injury a lot. 1709 01:37:36,439 --> 01:37:38,639 Speaker 12: He's done that, and he's played through a broken wrist 1710 01:37:38,680 --> 01:37:41,640 Speaker 12: in the past, so he's got a high pain tolerance. 1711 01:37:41,680 --> 01:37:45,920 Speaker 12: But you wonder if that gets affected by a three 1712 01:37:45,960 --> 01:37:47,960 Speaker 12: and six record, which could be a three and seven 1713 01:37:48,040 --> 01:37:51,559 Speaker 12: record after Pittsburgh, maybe maybe the hip doesn't heal as fast. 1714 01:37:51,720 --> 01:37:54,479 Speaker 3: Should they have traded him? And they were never going 1715 01:37:54,520 --> 01:37:55,760 Speaker 3: to write but should they have? 1716 01:37:58,040 --> 01:37:58,680 Speaker 8: I don't think so. 1717 01:37:58,800 --> 01:38:01,680 Speaker 12: I don't think you're going to get an u of 1718 01:38:01,720 --> 01:38:04,880 Speaker 12: a return there to make it worthwhile, and he is 1719 01:38:04,920 --> 01:38:08,120 Speaker 12: so important, like if they traded him, then you would say, 1720 01:38:08,160 --> 01:38:10,040 Speaker 12: definitely there is no hope for this defense to get 1721 01:38:10,040 --> 01:38:12,519 Speaker 12: any better. I think they still hold out some hope that, 1722 01:38:13,160 --> 01:38:14,600 Speaker 12: you know, if he if he can come back and 1723 01:38:14,600 --> 01:38:16,680 Speaker 12: start giving him some semience of pressure and some other 1724 01:38:16,720 --> 01:38:18,679 Speaker 12: guys can step up, that the defense can be good 1725 01:38:18,760 --> 01:38:22,040 Speaker 12: enough to let him win some of these games. But 1726 01:38:22,080 --> 01:38:24,240 Speaker 12: I don't I didn't. I thought maybe they should have 1727 01:38:24,240 --> 01:38:27,760 Speaker 12: traded him in the off season, but not now. And 1728 01:38:27,840 --> 01:38:29,840 Speaker 12: I plus, it's just a bad look to wave the 1729 01:38:30,160 --> 01:38:32,040 Speaker 12: white flag. I'm really interested to see how the Jets 1730 01:38:32,080 --> 01:38:35,040 Speaker 12: are going to respond on Sunday against the Browns. When 1731 01:38:35,280 --> 01:38:38,360 Speaker 12: you start dealing stars like that away. It's how do 1732 01:38:38,439 --> 01:38:41,280 Speaker 12: guys go to practice and be fired up? And the 1733 01:38:41,320 --> 01:38:44,080 Speaker 12: front office is already looking at next year and they're 1734 01:38:44,120 --> 01:38:46,360 Speaker 12: asking you to go out there and put your body 1735 01:38:46,360 --> 01:38:48,440 Speaker 12: on the line, when when they've basically sold. 1736 01:38:48,200 --> 01:38:50,679 Speaker 3: Out, the reality is they'll probably get what a third 1737 01:38:50,800 --> 01:38:53,120 Speaker 3: round pick if Trey walks after if they don't tag 1738 01:38:53,200 --> 01:38:56,800 Speaker 3: him and he walks, they'll get a third round compensatory pick. 1739 01:38:58,200 --> 01:39:01,439 Speaker 12: Roughly, yeah, you would think. And he's going to need 1740 01:39:01,439 --> 01:39:02,920 Speaker 12: to really kind of break the bank for it to 1741 01:39:02,960 --> 01:39:05,240 Speaker 12: be a third. I don't know what kind of market 1742 01:39:05,280 --> 01:39:07,200 Speaker 12: he's going to have it at that age. And then 1743 01:39:07,320 --> 01:39:10,360 Speaker 12: with the production going down this year, so it could 1744 01:39:10,360 --> 01:39:13,960 Speaker 12: be a fourth, maybe even a fifth. But yeah, I 1745 01:39:14,000 --> 01:39:17,639 Speaker 12: guess Trey Hendrickson last year walked away, then yeah, they 1746 01:39:17,680 --> 01:39:18,759 Speaker 12: probably would have got a third. 1747 01:39:19,000 --> 01:39:21,320 Speaker 3: I just mean, when you're looking at like you're trying 1748 01:39:21,320 --> 01:39:24,040 Speaker 3: to find a trade partner, if you're going to get 1749 01:39:24,080 --> 01:39:25,800 Speaker 3: a third for him, like you're already going to get 1750 01:39:25,800 --> 01:39:29,160 Speaker 3: that if he stays, Like if nobody's going to give 1751 01:39:29,160 --> 01:39:32,000 Speaker 3: you a first or second, you're you know, now we're 1752 01:39:32,320 --> 01:39:35,200 Speaker 3: in the negotiation process. Now we move down to a third. 1753 01:39:35,600 --> 01:39:38,519 Speaker 3: I'm sure you're thinking, like, if you're in the Bengals 1754 01:39:38,560 --> 01:39:41,680 Speaker 3: front office, that's probably going to be about where we 1755 01:39:41,680 --> 01:39:46,120 Speaker 3: were gonna end up anyway, so we'll just keep him. 1756 01:39:46,240 --> 01:39:48,360 Speaker 12: Yeah, the difference there though, if it's a compic, it's 1757 01:39:48,400 --> 01:39:50,320 Speaker 12: going to be twenty twenty seven, where sure trade h 1758 01:39:50,360 --> 01:39:51,080 Speaker 12: it's likely going to be. 1759 01:39:51,040 --> 01:39:51,720 Speaker 3: A twenty six. 1760 01:39:51,920 --> 01:39:53,920 Speaker 12: Yeah, so you can you can get it flipped a 1761 01:39:53,920 --> 01:39:56,040 Speaker 12: little bit quicker, but but you're right it was the 1762 01:39:56,280 --> 01:39:58,320 Speaker 12: overall compensation would be pretty similar. 1763 01:39:59,640 --> 01:40:02,679 Speaker 3: How much does it stink that we are not getting 1764 01:40:02,680 --> 01:40:06,800 Speaker 3: to enjoy what Joe Flacco is doing? Because it's legendary 1765 01:40:07,720 --> 01:40:11,360 Speaker 3: that he's I mean, he's unbelievable since he's been here, 1766 01:40:11,720 --> 01:40:13,240 Speaker 3: and there's no joy in it at all. 1767 01:40:15,400 --> 01:40:18,760 Speaker 12: There should be, I mean that people should still recognize 1768 01:40:18,760 --> 01:40:21,320 Speaker 12: what he's doing. And that was kind of what I 1769 01:40:21,320 --> 01:40:25,400 Speaker 12: wrote about after Sunday's game. Is the criminal? How criminal 1770 01:40:25,560 --> 01:40:27,519 Speaker 12: was that the defense robbed him of that moment? I 1771 01:40:27,520 --> 01:40:30,720 Speaker 12: mean that was like I compared with Kerrie Strug the 1772 01:40:30,760 --> 01:40:35,080 Speaker 12: Olympic Bok, or Willis Reed or you know, Hacksall Reynolds. 1773 01:40:34,800 --> 01:40:36,240 Speaker 8: Playing with the Brooklyn League in the Super Bowl. 1774 01:40:36,360 --> 01:40:38,920 Speaker 12: Just there's all kinds of things that I mean, It's 1775 01:40:38,960 --> 01:40:41,840 Speaker 12: not on the national scale like that, but locally this 1776 01:40:41,880 --> 01:40:44,759 Speaker 12: would have been revered as one of the great gutsy 1777 01:40:44,840 --> 01:40:47,600 Speaker 12: performances in Cincinnati history. And now it's just going to 1778 01:40:47,640 --> 01:40:50,960 Speaker 12: be a footnote of another game where they scored thirty 1779 01:40:50,960 --> 01:40:53,160 Speaker 12: plus and Laws scored forty plus in this time. But 1780 01:40:53,760 --> 01:40:57,000 Speaker 12: it is, it's it's really amazing. I didn't see this coming, 1781 01:40:57,000 --> 01:40:59,400 Speaker 12: I Honor, when they traded for him, I said, well, 1782 01:40:59,479 --> 01:41:03,120 Speaker 12: it's better than nothing. And I don't think anybody saw 1783 01:41:03,200 --> 01:41:06,799 Speaker 12: this kind of performance number one coming at all, number 1784 01:41:06,800 --> 01:41:08,320 Speaker 12: two coming this fast. 1785 01:41:09,160 --> 01:41:10,920 Speaker 3: I mean, it just goes to show one how good 1786 01:41:11,000 --> 01:41:13,519 Speaker 3: Jamar and t are though, right, Like you can put 1787 01:41:13,520 --> 01:41:16,720 Speaker 3: a guy in there that understands get the ball in 1788 01:41:16,760 --> 01:41:19,400 Speaker 3: your hands, get it out, and get it to your stars, 1789 01:41:19,640 --> 01:41:21,360 Speaker 3: and good things tend to happen. 1790 01:41:23,320 --> 01:41:25,840 Speaker 12: Yeah, And that is a big part of it, and 1791 01:41:25,880 --> 01:41:28,599 Speaker 12: a big part of it is just how smart Flaco 1792 01:41:28,800 --> 01:41:30,639 Speaker 12: is and how experience he is. He's seen it all. 1793 01:41:31,200 --> 01:41:34,720 Speaker 12: I do think this can this run can be important. 1794 01:41:35,040 --> 01:41:38,240 Speaker 12: I think that the way this run game is taken 1795 01:41:38,240 --> 01:41:43,759 Speaker 12: off with Slakka with his willingness to go under center 1796 01:41:44,120 --> 01:41:46,360 Speaker 12: and use the play action run, something Burrow has never 1797 01:41:46,400 --> 01:41:49,400 Speaker 12: wanted to do. I wonder if Burrow sees this version 1798 01:41:49,439 --> 01:41:53,320 Speaker 12: of the offense and says, yeah, maybe I do need 1799 01:41:53,640 --> 01:41:55,760 Speaker 12: to do some more of that. I mean, his superpower 1800 01:41:55,800 --> 01:41:58,080 Speaker 12: is the quick processing, and we all know that he 1801 01:41:58,160 --> 01:41:59,679 Speaker 12: just doesn't want to turn his back to the defense. 1802 01:41:59,720 --> 01:42:01,280 Speaker 12: He wants to be back during guns. So you can 1803 01:42:01,760 --> 01:42:04,519 Speaker 12: survey the whole field, see the full picture. But I 1804 01:42:04,520 --> 01:42:06,240 Speaker 12: don't know how you can look at what this offense 1805 01:42:06,320 --> 01:42:07,840 Speaker 12: is doing and what this run game is doing, and 1806 01:42:07,960 --> 01:42:10,920 Speaker 12: it's specifically and say we're going to go back away 1807 01:42:10,960 --> 01:42:13,400 Speaker 12: from that whenever they go back to Joe Burrow, whether 1808 01:42:13,439 --> 01:42:15,840 Speaker 12: it's week fifteen, week sixteen, or twenty twenty. 1809 01:42:15,600 --> 01:42:19,840 Speaker 3: Six, especially considering it wasn't doing anything when they were 1810 01:42:20,439 --> 01:42:21,559 Speaker 3: operating the old way. 1811 01:42:23,080 --> 01:42:24,920 Speaker 12: Yeah, they went for worst in the league to the 1812 01:42:24,920 --> 01:42:28,600 Speaker 12: best in the league in October. I mean, that's not coincidence. 1813 01:42:28,720 --> 01:42:31,799 Speaker 12: That's not figuring things out. That's everything. It's the offensive 1814 01:42:31,800 --> 01:42:34,679 Speaker 12: line playing better, it's the going under. 1815 01:42:34,439 --> 01:42:36,160 Speaker 8: Center really leading into the run. 1816 01:42:36,600 --> 01:42:39,120 Speaker 12: I think it probably would have got better anyhow, It 1817 01:42:39,280 --> 01:42:42,760 Speaker 12: just it didn't make any sense. Chase Brown is really good, 1818 01:42:42,840 --> 01:42:44,920 Speaker 12: and I think we were all expecting a really big 1819 01:42:45,000 --> 01:42:46,360 Speaker 12: year out of him, and it was a kind of 1820 01:42:46,360 --> 01:42:48,080 Speaker 12: heads smashing that that wasn't happening. 1821 01:42:48,120 --> 01:42:51,400 Speaker 8: But yeah, it's remarkable. 1822 01:42:51,400 --> 01:42:55,480 Speaker 12: What's flackoing this entire offensive have done the last four weeks? 1823 01:42:56,360 --> 01:42:58,519 Speaker 3: What does this look like coming out of the buy? Like, 1824 01:42:58,840 --> 01:43:01,960 Speaker 3: what's the line locker room vibe that it doesn't seem 1825 01:43:02,040 --> 01:43:05,800 Speaker 3: great right now for obvious reasons. Zach kind of I 1826 01:43:05,800 --> 01:43:08,320 Speaker 3: think fans are upset that he went after Chase Brown. 1827 01:43:08,400 --> 01:43:11,559 Speaker 3: When Chase Brown said what everybody was thinking, what? What 1828 01:43:11,600 --> 01:43:14,760 Speaker 3: did you get a sense in the limited time you 1829 01:43:14,800 --> 01:43:18,400 Speaker 3: were around this week that where the headspace is going 1830 01:43:18,439 --> 01:43:19,040 Speaker 3: into the break? 1831 01:43:21,280 --> 01:43:23,840 Speaker 12: Yeah, I don't I think it's not as bad as 1832 01:43:23,840 --> 01:43:25,880 Speaker 12: it was Sunday after the game. Sunday after the game, 1833 01:43:25,880 --> 01:43:27,120 Speaker 12: I thought it was gonna be a powder keg. I 1834 01:43:27,120 --> 01:43:29,160 Speaker 12: thought there was a real chance someone was gonna blow up. 1835 01:43:29,160 --> 01:43:31,160 Speaker 12: And you know, Chase did kind of go over the 1836 01:43:31,160 --> 01:43:32,120 Speaker 12: line a little bit there. 1837 01:43:32,479 --> 01:43:33,840 Speaker 8: I don't think what he said was all that bad. 1838 01:43:33,840 --> 01:43:36,599 Speaker 12: Everyone's thinking it, but it's these guys are trained. They 1839 01:43:36,640 --> 01:43:38,200 Speaker 12: know what to do, even in the heat of the moment, 1840 01:43:38,280 --> 01:43:41,760 Speaker 12: right when the game's over, just to say the correct thing, 1841 01:43:41,840 --> 01:43:42,360 Speaker 12: or maybe. 1842 01:43:42,120 --> 01:43:44,480 Speaker 8: Behind closed door as you point door, point. 1843 01:43:44,200 --> 01:43:45,920 Speaker 12: Fingers a little bit and say those kind of things. 1844 01:43:45,960 --> 01:43:50,640 Speaker 12: But it just feels like it's it's teetering, like it's 1845 01:43:50,720 --> 01:43:51,960 Speaker 12: it's offense against defense. 1846 01:43:52,000 --> 01:43:53,720 Speaker 8: If they if the offense keeps playing like this and 1847 01:43:53,760 --> 01:43:54,400 Speaker 8: they keep. 1848 01:43:54,240 --> 01:43:57,200 Speaker 12: Losing, I do think we're going to see more guys 1849 01:43:57,200 --> 01:44:00,760 Speaker 12: popping off to the media and then popping off two 1850 01:44:01,240 --> 01:44:03,080 Speaker 12: guys in the locker room. I think that's a big 1851 01:44:03,120 --> 01:44:06,599 Speaker 12: reason we didn't see the blow up Sunday night is 1852 01:44:06,640 --> 01:44:09,120 Speaker 12: because there was no defensive guys in there. They got 1853 01:44:09,120 --> 01:44:10,880 Speaker 12: out of there in a hurry. I don't think they 1854 01:44:10,880 --> 01:44:12,400 Speaker 12: wanted to face the media, and I don't want to 1855 01:44:12,439 --> 01:44:14,519 Speaker 12: I don't think they wanted to face their offensive teammates. 1856 01:44:14,520 --> 01:44:18,400 Speaker 12: It was it was really surprising how quickly that locker 1857 01:44:18,479 --> 01:44:19,680 Speaker 12: room emptied out. 1858 01:44:20,000 --> 01:44:23,000 Speaker 3: Well, hopefully you guys got better results from your writers 1859 01:44:23,040 --> 01:44:24,360 Speaker 3: meeting a couple of weeks back. 1860 01:44:26,920 --> 01:44:28,320 Speaker 12: You know, I just thought that was a kind of 1861 01:44:28,320 --> 01:44:30,920 Speaker 12: a funny throwaway. Live just kind of kept going with 1862 01:44:30,960 --> 01:44:32,720 Speaker 12: the bit, and I'm like, I'm not prepared for all 1863 01:44:32,720 --> 01:44:35,519 Speaker 12: these questions. It was just I was just kind of 1864 01:44:35,520 --> 01:44:37,200 Speaker 12: making something up there, but it would be fun to 1865 01:44:37,240 --> 01:44:39,400 Speaker 12: do that, and I'm really upset, you know, I thought 1866 01:44:39,400 --> 01:44:42,640 Speaker 12: we were all going to get together and and you know, 1867 01:44:42,760 --> 01:44:46,439 Speaker 12: kind of have a few pops and talk things out 1868 01:44:46,479 --> 01:44:49,040 Speaker 12: and have a fun night. But everybody's got their own 1869 01:44:49,040 --> 01:44:53,639 Speaker 12: bye week plans, and maybe that'll be a week eighteen 1870 01:44:53,880 --> 01:44:55,880 Speaker 12: or a week nineteen plan, because it doesn't look like 1871 01:44:55,920 --> 01:44:58,439 Speaker 12: the Bengals are going to be playing football after week. 1872 01:44:58,280 --> 01:45:00,640 Speaker 3: Eighteen, after week nineteen, you guys are probably going to 1873 01:45:00,720 --> 01:45:00,960 Speaker 3: need it. 1874 01:45:01,000 --> 01:45:01,320 Speaker 8: Thanks you. 1875 01:45:01,360 --> 01:45:04,479 Speaker 3: I appreciate it, all right, Thanks Jed. There you go, 1876 01:45:04,600 --> 01:45:10,320 Speaker 3: Jay Morrison, who does a great job for the SI 1877 01:45:11,240 --> 01:45:15,280 Speaker 3: affiliate Bengals Talk dot Com and as always podcasting with 1878 01:45:15,479 --> 01:45:17,880 Speaker 3: Paul Danner Junior on the Growler Networks. 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The beats Slick 1901 01:47:00,920 --> 01:47:03,200 Speaker 3: Crick and E forty are definitely way up there, right 1902 01:47:04,000 --> 01:47:06,040 Speaker 3: as far as the voice goes. Yeah, just the like 1903 01:47:06,280 --> 01:47:12,080 Speaker 3: when you hear the voice, you know exactly too short short, 1904 01:47:15,840 --> 01:47:21,320 Speaker 3: not the easy we know the easy ones. Anyhow, Coming 1905 01:47:21,400 --> 01:47:25,720 Speaker 3: up next the Bengals Round Table Show, a show that 1906 01:47:25,840 --> 01:47:28,800 Speaker 3: I'll be on at seven o five Tarren So I'll 1907 01:47:28,840 --> 01:47:33,320 Speaker 3: be back on these airwaves shortly after getting getting done. 1908 01:47:33,920 --> 01:47:37,880 Speaker 3: Uh Xavier basketball tonight on seven hundred w l W 1909 01:47:38,520 --> 01:47:42,640 Speaker 3: pregame show starts at six thirty and then after the 1910 01:47:42,640 --> 01:47:46,679 Speaker 3: Bengals Round Table show at eight The West Miller Show 1911 01:47:47,040 --> 01:47:48,840 Speaker 3: Live from the Montgomery End. I get all that right, 1912 01:47:50,160 --> 01:47:56,040 Speaker 3: you did you note it Xavier playing Lemoyne tonight. Lemoyne. 1913 01:47:56,040 --> 01:48:01,639 Speaker 3: You know how I know Lemoyne Tarren a while back 1914 01:48:02,760 --> 01:48:06,559 Speaker 3: that they are right in the Syracuse area and they 1915 01:48:06,600 --> 01:48:11,040 Speaker 3: would play Syracuse in an exhibition game back when, like 1916 01:48:11,920 --> 01:48:14,000 Speaker 3: you know, the big schools would play like D two 1917 01:48:14,040 --> 01:48:17,640 Speaker 3: schools in exhibition games. And when you're one year, Lemoyne 1918 01:48:17,680 --> 01:48:22,360 Speaker 3: beat Jim Beheim Syracuse team. That's how I knew. That's 1919 01:48:22,360 --> 01:48:26,200 Speaker 3: how I found out who Lemoyne was early Jim be No, 1920 01:48:26,400 --> 01:48:30,479 Speaker 3: it was it was fairly recently. Oh wow, maybe a 1921 01:48:30,560 --> 01:48:35,599 Speaker 3: decade ago, seven, eight years ago, like towards the end 1922 01:48:35,600 --> 01:48:38,919 Speaker 3: of Baheim at Syracuse. But yeah, they lost to Lemoyne 1923 01:48:39,160 --> 01:48:41,600 Speaker 3: in an exhibition game, and I found out that Lemoyne 1924 01:48:41,640 --> 01:48:45,839 Speaker 3: is right in that general vicinity around Syracuse. At Lemoyne, 1925 01:48:47,640 --> 01:48:51,840 Speaker 3: they've got a power forward whose name is Tennessee Rainwater. 1926 01:48:54,640 --> 01:48:55,400 Speaker 3: Just outstanding. 1927 01:48:56,680 --> 01:48:59,160 Speaker 4: I think it makes an ile money, so. 1928 01:48:59,320 --> 01:49:03,080 Speaker 3: Have to have to. Let's take our last call. Michael 1929 01:49:03,120 --> 01:49:04,920 Speaker 3: wants to talk some Bengals. Michael, what's up in. 1930 01:49:06,400 --> 01:49:06,599 Speaker 10: Hey? 1931 01:49:06,640 --> 01:49:07,639 Speaker 17: What's going on, guys. 1932 01:49:07,800 --> 01:49:09,760 Speaker 3: Tennessee rainwater? What do you think of that one? 1933 01:49:11,720 --> 01:49:14,559 Speaker 17: I was talking Bengals. I don't I don't know about 1934 01:49:14,560 --> 01:49:20,719 Speaker 17: Tennessee rainwater. But you got you know that definition of insanity, right. 1935 01:49:20,680 --> 01:49:23,200 Speaker 3: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting 1936 01:49:23,240 --> 01:49:25,000 Speaker 3: different results. 1937 01:49:25,400 --> 01:49:30,240 Speaker 17: Right, And I don't see how we don't which change 1938 01:49:30,240 --> 01:49:32,960 Speaker 17: the scheme up or try something creative. I mean, what's 1939 01:49:33,040 --> 01:49:35,200 Speaker 17: the worst thing that can happen? We go from thirty 1940 01:49:35,240 --> 01:49:39,400 Speaker 17: seconds thirty first? I mean we can tell her breath 1941 01:49:39,479 --> 01:49:42,320 Speaker 17: the safety put some safeties in the box, like I 1942 01:49:42,320 --> 01:49:45,720 Speaker 17: don't know, like over stack in the edge. We need 1943 01:49:45,760 --> 01:49:46,160 Speaker 17: to flit. 1944 01:49:46,280 --> 01:49:47,360 Speaker 3: We never flit. 1945 01:49:47,680 --> 01:49:49,080 Speaker 17: Like why don't we ever flit? 1946 01:49:49,200 --> 01:49:50,040 Speaker 3: Because they can't cover. 1947 01:49:50,240 --> 01:49:52,679 Speaker 9: We can't. 1948 01:49:52,960 --> 01:49:56,320 Speaker 17: We can't cover. We can't. We can't do nothing. But 1949 01:49:57,080 --> 01:50:00,360 Speaker 17: something's gotta change. We gotta get created. Like can't tower 1950 01:50:00,400 --> 01:50:02,920 Speaker 17: brith the safety or moving the linebacker? 1951 01:50:03,000 --> 01:50:03,559 Speaker 7: I don't know. 1952 01:50:05,200 --> 01:50:08,160 Speaker 3: I think they did move him. It was just they 1953 01:50:08,200 --> 01:50:09,680 Speaker 3: moved him off the field. 1954 01:50:11,320 --> 01:50:17,479 Speaker 17: Right last year this year, Like I understand bensoning, but 1955 01:50:18,040 --> 01:50:20,360 Speaker 17: if you didn't training and y ain't on are cutting? 1956 01:50:20,560 --> 01:50:21,559 Speaker 7: I mean yeah, I. 1957 01:50:21,479 --> 01:50:24,760 Speaker 3: Mean, look, I think ultimately the problem is Michael. They 1958 01:50:24,760 --> 01:50:28,280 Speaker 3: have bad players a lot of them, have a lot 1959 01:50:28,320 --> 01:50:31,639 Speaker 3: of bad players, and there's not a whole lot scheme. 1960 01:50:31,760 --> 01:50:34,519 Speaker 3: Doesn't like they've already done the one thing you do 1961 01:50:34,600 --> 01:50:37,920 Speaker 3: when you your talent level is low, where you try 1962 01:50:37,920 --> 01:50:40,440 Speaker 3: to make it simple and just let them play fast. 1963 01:50:41,280 --> 01:50:44,080 Speaker 3: And they're really bad at that too. I don't know. 1964 01:50:44,960 --> 01:50:48,160 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm with you in the in theory, try something, 1965 01:50:48,280 --> 01:50:51,080 Speaker 3: try anything, like you know, it's the the poking a 1966 01:50:51,120 --> 01:50:53,640 Speaker 3: guy with a stick meme, like is there life are 1967 01:50:53,680 --> 01:50:56,479 Speaker 3: you is? I don't know that there is any life 1968 01:50:56,479 --> 01:50:59,040 Speaker 3: in this defense. They stink out loud. 1969 01:50:59,760 --> 01:51:03,320 Speaker 17: I'm are these NFL players really that bad and that 1970 01:51:03,400 --> 01:51:07,160 Speaker 17: they are? I mean, you know, Bill Bill Belichick, but 1971 01:51:07,360 --> 01:51:11,040 Speaker 17: bring guys in off the street. I'm not comparing Bill Belichick. 1972 01:51:11,400 --> 01:51:12,720 Speaker 3: Anybody, nor should you, But. 1973 01:51:14,560 --> 01:51:18,080 Speaker 17: Hey, bring guys off the street and he plug them 1974 01:51:18,080 --> 01:51:20,320 Speaker 17: in and they would kick butt instantly. 1975 01:51:20,520 --> 01:51:22,720 Speaker 3: Well, I think that's part of the problem. I don't 1976 01:51:22,720 --> 01:51:25,080 Speaker 3: think there's a lot of situational awareness. There's not a 1977 01:51:25,160 --> 01:51:27,960 Speaker 3: lot of self awareness in that building. There's nobody that's 1978 01:51:27,960 --> 01:51:29,639 Speaker 3: going to stand up in the room and say, hey, 1979 01:51:30,280 --> 01:51:33,679 Speaker 3: we got to do something different. These guys stink. Instead, 1980 01:51:33,720 --> 01:51:37,760 Speaker 3: they all support each other and say no they'll get 1981 01:51:37,760 --> 01:51:41,200 Speaker 3: it figured out. That no, Cam Taylor, BRIT's gonna get 1982 01:51:41,200 --> 01:51:44,519 Speaker 3: it figured out. I promise we'll figure it out. 1983 01:51:44,920 --> 01:51:45,440 Speaker 10: Fourteen. 1984 01:51:47,280 --> 01:51:50,160 Speaker 8: I mean, hey, thanks, Dad, I'm. 1985 01:51:50,000 --> 01:51:51,080 Speaker 17: Gonna got off here and listen to you. 1986 01:51:51,080 --> 01:51:54,320 Speaker 3: But all right, I appreciate it, Michael. Yeah, but that's 1987 01:51:54,400 --> 01:51:58,600 Speaker 3: the problem, right, Tarn. The message coming from everybody in 1988 01:51:58,640 --> 01:52:01,559 Speaker 3: that building is things are fine. We're gonna get this right. 1989 01:52:02,040 --> 01:52:02,559 Speaker 7: No, you're not. 1990 01:52:02,800 --> 01:52:14,120 Speaker 3: The players stink. There's nobody outside of DJ Turner, nobody, nobody. Uh, 1991 01:52:13,920 --> 01:52:16,360 Speaker 3: the white guy on the cruise ship, yeah, you know, 1992 01:52:16,439 --> 01:52:22,080 Speaker 3: he met he met him. Yeah, they had him to 1993 01:52:22,120 --> 01:52:27,800 Speaker 3: his house and like you know, they had a moment. Anyhow, 1994 01:52:29,640 --> 01:52:34,719 Speaker 3: there's no good players, DJ Turner, Trey Hendrickson. I guess 1995 01:52:38,080 --> 01:52:40,400 Speaker 3: who else is good? Who do you who else do 1996 01:52:40,479 --> 01:52:44,920 Speaker 3: you feel confident with on that defense? There's no good players. 1997 01:52:46,120 --> 01:52:49,920 Speaker 3: So it doesn't matter the scheme, the system, the coach. 1998 01:52:51,760 --> 01:52:54,080 Speaker 3: But at that point, somebody's got to stand up in 1999 01:52:54,120 --> 01:53:02,519 Speaker 3: that room and say we stink, guys, we stink or 2000 01:53:02,600 --> 01:53:08,000 Speaker 3: potentially the worst defense in the history of the NFL. 2001 01:53:10,520 --> 01:53:13,120 Speaker 4: Let's go all in and just be the worst defense 2002 01:53:13,400 --> 01:53:13,880 Speaker 4: in history. 2003 01:53:14,080 --> 01:53:17,840 Speaker 3: I'm all for it. Like we're here, we are here, right, 2004 01:53:17,920 --> 01:53:23,120 Speaker 3: we are past the halfway point. It is in reach, Tarran. 2005 01:53:23,640 --> 01:53:30,000 Speaker 3: The worst defense in football history is within arms reach. 2006 01:53:30,160 --> 01:53:36,559 Speaker 3: I think they should do it, go for it. Why not, 2007 01:53:37,720 --> 01:53:45,160 Speaker 3: can't get any worse? Goodness, all right, Taran, it was 2008 01:53:45,200 --> 01:53:49,639 Speaker 3: good to see you again today. Be's barbecue phenomenal, outstanding today. 2009 01:53:49,640 --> 01:53:52,560 Speaker 3: Their brisket was excellent down in 2010 01:53:52,640 --> 01:53:55,160 Speaker 4: OTR these you will be seeing me very very soon, 2011 01:53:55,360 --> 01:53:57,080 Speaker 4: all right,