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Speaker 1: We start this episode here on Cracking This Morning. On

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Speaker 1: very somber terms. Jim Gordon, known to those around the

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Speaker 1: hockey circles affectionately as Boomer, was a longtime host and

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Speaker 1: producer at SiriusXM NHL Network Radio. A very infectious personality.

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Speaker 1: He knew how to relate to new listeners, longtime listeners,

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Speaker 1: fantasy side here which made his most recent show the

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Speaker 1: point Appointment Listening on Sirius XM NHL Network Radio. We

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Speaker 1: are sad to learn that Jim Gordon past Monday after

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Speaker 1: a bout with cancer. He was fifty five years of age.

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Speaker 1: Our condolences to friends, family, and loved ones of the

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Speaker 1: late Jim Boomer Gordon.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Cracking This Morning, a presentation of the Krakin

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Speaker 2: Audio Network, Ken Sports Radio ninety three point three kjr FM.

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Speaker 2: Here's Mike Benton.

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Speaker 1: Second game of to back coming up here for the

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Speaker 1: Seattle Kraken, who take on the Saint Louis Blues in

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Speaker 1: the second and final trip to Enterprise Center for this season. Again,

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Speaker 1: Mike vent with you for Cracking this morning on a Thursday,

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Speaker 1: the twenty sixth of February. The Cracking trying to bounce

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Speaker 1: back from a four to one loss last evening in Dallas.

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Speaker 1: We'll hear remarks from head coach Lane Lambert in just

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Speaker 1: a bit, plus also catch up for more contact with

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Speaker 1: Darren Brown of NHL dot Com and Sound of Hockey,

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Speaker 1: including the loss of Ryan Lyndgren mid game last night,

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Speaker 1: very very shortly, not exactly the start of the Kraken

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Speaker 1: envision last night at American Airlines Center, and after a

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Speaker 1: Wyatt Johnston scoring twice. The start is getting four unanswered

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Speaker 1: forty six, But Dallas after that, Cruising four won the

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Speaker 1: of the season, with Dallas taking all three meetings in

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Speaker 1: the regular season set. Before we get to Darren Brown,

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Speaker 1: here's more reaction from cracket head coach Layne Lambert, who

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Speaker 1: first summarized the last saying it was a failure to execute.

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Speaker 3: For whatever reason. You know, we had a apparently we

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Speaker 3: and you know, it just doesn't work for our hockey team.

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Speaker 3: You know, there's no excuse for it, there's no reason

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Speaker 3: for it. How do we've got to be better assess goal?

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Speaker 3: There's special teams tonight. Well, you know, I thought the

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Speaker 3: we were fine in the first seven minutes of the game,

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Speaker 3: Didn't happen. I thought, you know, early on the power

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Speaker 3: like I said, not good enough. They're a good hockey

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Speaker 4: How much of that past first mentality as a result

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Speaker 3: We've got to get ourselves ready to go. There aren't

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Speaker 3: It wasn't a good enough hockey game for our hockey team,

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Speaker 1: Well, a pretty jam playoff picture became even more jammed

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Speaker 1: in the second and final trip to Enterprise Center here

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Speaker 1: for this season. Joining us now on Cracking this morning,

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Speaker 1: our friend Darren Brown of NHL dot com also runs

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Speaker 1: a content side for Soundofhockey dot com as well does

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Speaker 1: fantastic work.

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Speaker 5: Darren, Hi, how are you?

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Speaker 1: First off, how'd you spend the several days away here

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Speaker 4: I am good, Mike, thanks for having me Well, the

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Speaker 4: main thing was I got to go to Japan with

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Speaker 4: hard as I tried, I thought he'd I thought he'd

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Speaker 4: I told him that I had requested to do an

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Speaker 1: How many times have you been to Japan before?

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Speaker 1: Time well spent and we're finally back out of here

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Speaker 5: So would you take away here from last night?

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Speaker 4: You know, I didn't think the effort I mean, watching it,

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Speaker 4: which is simply not enough. But when you think about

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Speaker 5: Where do you like him best in this lineup? Darren Oh?

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Speaker 4: I I have always liked him best with Matty Benier's

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Speaker 4: Definitely, I think that's absolutely the case. The Blues are

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Speaker 1: Potentially, if the right move is out there, they could

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Speaker 5: Thanks Pal, Thank you for the time. Appreciate you Mike.

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Speaker 1: All right, Darren, thank you very much. As Darren Brown

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