1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: So about twenty minutes into that winding seventy five minute 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: conversation on the Pat McAfee show last week, Aaron Rodgers 3 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: gave us the money quote about his future and the 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: franchise that we were all waiting for. He said, I 5 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: want to say that anybody on here who was expecting 6 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 1: me to make some sort of big decision, just. 7 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:21,639 Speaker 2: Turn it off right now and leave. Boy. 8 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: I wish I would have stuck with that advice, but 9 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: I watched the rest of the interview anyway, And frankly, 10 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: the Steelers should have taken that advice and walked away 11 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: from the Aaron Rodgers table by the officials start a 12 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: free agency tomorrow if Rogers hasn't gotten his mind made up, 13 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: and frankly, this all should have started before the legal 14 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 1: tampering period, because that's when all the action starts to 15 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: begin with. If Rogers wasn't ready to make up his 16 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: mind about whether or not to keep playing football, or 17 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: if he specifically wants to do so in Pittsburgh, it's 18 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: the Steelers who should be logging off the feed. Let 19 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: Rogers make up his own mind at his own pace 20 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 1: and operate accordingly. You know, I don't know how significantly. 21 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: They looked at Malik Willis. I don't I don't know 22 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 1: how they're considering Kyler Murray. I don't know how they've 23 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: evaluated Ty Simpson or Drew Aller in the draft. But 24 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:22,559 Speaker 1: if the answer is knowed all those guys as clearly 25 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: it was for Willis, then get Will Howard and or 26 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph ready to start talk Ben Roethlisberger out of retirement, 27 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: bring back Cordell or Tommy Maddox, whatever. At this point, 28 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: I don't care which of those paths that they pick. 29 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: Just don't pick the path where they have to follow 30 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 1: Rogers as he meanders through his own decision making process. 31 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: If this offseason winds up like last year and the 32 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: Steelers and Rogers both wind up staring at each other 33 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: after last call and the music stops, then go ahead 34 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: and hook up with one another again. If that's really 35 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: the best option. Personally, I can't see how that would 36 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: be the case. It wouldn't, be, in my estimation, a 37 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: good thing. If I'm Pittsburgh, I think that's signing up 38 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 1: for nothing better than ten and eight and another. 39 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 2: First round playoff loss at best. 40 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: But the Steelers have proven for almost a decade now, 41 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: such a result is suitable for them. 42 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 2: So if twenty twenty. 43 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: Six winds up replicating twenty twenty five at quarterback in 44 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh because there's no better option and Aaron Rodgers has 45 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: to be here by. 46 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 2: Default, so be it. 47 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: But in the meantime, while Rodgers is making up his mind, 48 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: the Steelers should try for something better or at least 49 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 1: something different. Willis would have been that I wouldn't have 50 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: done it for the third year. Personally, I would have 51 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: lived and could have lived with it for two years. 52 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: The third year was probably a little much, And if 53 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: you go to the three years, you need to spread 54 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: out even more money for a guy that maybe you're 55 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: hoping doesn't start after the first seventeen games with them. 56 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 2: But last year was one thing. They didn't have a quarterback. 57 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: Rogers wasn't their guy yet, he was just an ex 58 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 1: New York Jet. 59 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 2: This isn't the same thing. 60 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: Rogers can't expect his current team to wait for him 61 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 1: to make up his mind throughout free agency in the 62 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: draft this spring before they figure out what to do 63 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 1: at the sports most important position. You know, he said, 64 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: there hasn't been a deadline set on me. There hasn't 65 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: been a contract floated in front of me, That's what 66 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: he says. It's like they're not giving you until March 67 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: eighth to make a decision. I say, why, why wasn't 68 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: there a contract decision deadline set for Rogers? Why wasn't 69 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: there a contract offer? Because Rogers has said that too, 70 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: they never offered me a contract. Well, is it because 71 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: Omar Kahn doesn't want to pledge fifteen to twenty million 72 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: dollars to a guy who isn't sure if he wants 73 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: to report until June again, or maybe even play at all. 74 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 2: Why hasn't there been a deadline? 75 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: Is it because Con and Mike McCarthy know that if 76 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: they give Rogers a deadline, it'll tick him off and 77 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: he'll retire or go somewhere else. 78 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 2: So what fine? What's that going to cost him? 79 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: Another twenty four point first round loss at home in 80 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:20,799 Speaker 1: the playoffs? 81 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 2: Big deal? 82 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: During that interview with McAfee, Rogers was waxing poetic about 83 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: McCarthy and all the other familiar faces on the Pittsburgh 84 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 1: coaching staff from the mutual days together in Green Bay, 85 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: and then he gushed about his one year playing in Pittsburgh. Well, 86 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: if you liked it that much, then helped the team 87 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: lay out the road map for how they want to 88 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: build the twenty twenty six roster instead of turning yourself 89 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: into a mystery chess piece. Rogers doesn't owe the Steelers much, 90 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 1: but I do think for franchise planning purposes under a 91 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: brand new coaching regime, he at least owes them a 92 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 1: straight answer. 93 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 2: By now it should have happened already. 94 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: If Rogers doesn't feel he owes them that, then the 95 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: Steelers certainly don't owe him the patience of waiting until 96 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: he tries to make up his mind. Now, maybe they're 97 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 1: exercising patients because it's easy to be patient when. 98 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 2: There's nothing else you want. That could be part of it. 99 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 3: Now. 100 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: I heard a lot of talk about the Steelers and 101 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: Malik Willis. I didn't hear a lot of it coming 102 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 1: from the Steelers, and there was zero indication that they 103 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: were really all that in on it until he signed 104 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 1: anyway in Miami. You know, I've only heard it speculated 105 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 1: about Murray more than I've heard Murray speculation from within 106 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: the walls of the Steelers office. It seems to me 107 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: that they're almost setting themselves up to be back in 108 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: that situation where there's no other reason to go in 109 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: a different direction, because ah, Aaron's good enough four one 110 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: two three three three ninety nine thirty nine or eight 111 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: three three four one two wxdx. You can also tweet 112 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 1: me at Tim Benn's PGH. 113 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 2: And it's a little depressing. 114 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: It's a little well disappointing, because how I outlined in 115 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: the first two. 116 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 2: Hours, I like what they did yesterday. I like the 117 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 2: moves that they made yesterday. 118 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: There isn't a single one of those moves where I said, 119 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: what are they doing? Why are they spending this kind 120 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: of money in this position? Not only do I like 121 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: the individual players, I told you why I like Pittman. 122 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: We'll get into Dowdell and Dean in just a little bit. 123 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 1: Hopefully you heard Jay Retcher, who was on with us 124 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: on the two o'clock hour, really singing the praises of 125 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: Jamel Dean, the quarter quarterback. 126 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 2: Excuse me that they got from Tampa Bay. 127 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: But I also liked the way they were thinking about it, 128 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 1: the way they constructed their approach. Not only does Pittman 129 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: make sense for who he is, but he also makes 130 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 1: sense for how they can continue to build around Metcalf 131 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: with the rest of the wide receiving tree. I like 132 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: Doubdell because he's the kind of running back who didn't 133 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: break the bank, but is kind of, if not at 134 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: the very least, he offsets the loss of gain Well. 135 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 1: He might also elevate the position and he can put 136 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 1: Warren back to what I think he does best. I 137 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: think one little talking point that was kind of lost 138 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: and how well Gainwell played was for as well as 139 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: Gainwell was performing, he was doing a lot of the 140 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: war and duties that Warren did the best, and you 141 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: were kind of diluting Warren's impact, and he was the 142 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: one that you were paying. I think these two might 143 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: actually compliment each other better. I like that thinking. It's 144 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: also pretty clear to me that and we'll hear from 145 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: Chris Dampski about this in just a little bit, my 146 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: colleague go over a trip live. It's also clear to 147 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: me that when they went to the combine, they must 148 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: not like what they saw from corners that they thought 149 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: they could get in the first round. They might not 150 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: like the depth of what's going to be there in 151 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: the second or third round. So they said, Okay, we'll 152 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: attack corner and free agency, we'll keep one of the 153 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: two guys that we've got and. 154 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 2: Samuel will go out. 155 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: We'll get another guy in Dean, and my hunch is 156 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: there's going to be an impactful safety that drafted on 157 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: this team, say round two, round three, somewhere in the 158 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: second day. Maybe if there's a really good one there 159 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: in the first round and they've decided they're not going 160 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: to get a quarterback, or they can wait on the 161 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: wide receiver. 162 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 2: But there's planing. There's process here that I like. 163 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: There's thinking that I like to how they're approaching free agency, 164 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: except for. 165 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 2: The fact that we don't know who the quarterback is. 166 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 2: And that's still the biggest issue. 167 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: Like a lot of the hot wind that I just 168 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: expressed right there, that's great football talk for Steeler Nation 169 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: Radio or for me to fill out a couple columns 170 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: this week, but the big picture thing is we still 171 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: don't know who. 172 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 2: The quarterback is. Now. 173 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: Another added benefit to what they did is they're kind 174 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: of freed up to go the quarterback route in the 175 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: first round if that's what they want to do. But 176 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: I don't want them to do that for some of 177 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks that I'm seeing there. I'm not a Ty 178 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: Simpson believer. If they are, do it, but then coach 179 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: him up and he'd better be right, or you'd better 180 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: be right with Will Howard, and then you've got another 181 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: guy you can move. But that kind of just feels 182 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 1: like muddling the picture. Then it feels like you're doing 183 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: what Atlanta is doing and you're going this circuitous route 184 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: to end up with a guy that somebody else didn't want. 185 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: And I don't want the Steelers to be put in 186 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 1: that situation either, But you can tell me what you think. 187 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: I mean, like, there's the there's the school of thought 188 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: that I just advanced, which is you like what the 189 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: Steelers have done so far, And then there's the other 190 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: school of thought that you can advance, which is it 191 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: doesn't matter because they're still lost a quarterback. 192 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 2: Which tent do you put yourself under? Four one two 193 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:37,959 Speaker 2: three three. 194 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: Three ninety nine thirty nine or eight three three four 195 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: one two w XDX Tweet me as well at tim 196 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: ben'z pgh, and I will ask the very simple question 197 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: that I put out on Twitter, which is of the 198 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: moves that they made so far, which one do you 199 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: like the best? 200 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 3: Is it? 201 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 1: Keeping Samuel is a signing Dowtle is a DNA quarterback. 202 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 2: Or is it pit at wide receiver? 203 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 1: Overwhelmingly the response has been Pittman at wide receiver, like 204 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: sixty percent. To me, it's actually Doubtle because I think 205 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: he's the best player at his position. I like Pittman 206 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 1: more for what he might be able to do for 207 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: Metcalf that I like Pittman as a receiver, particularly at 208 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: the price. I like Pittman more for what it does 209 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: to free up their ability to get a wide receiver 210 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: at a different moment in the draft than what feels 211 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: like they have to press to get in Troy Edwards fashion, 212 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: go out and get the best guy available. I like 213 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:36,079 Speaker 1: things about Pittman more than I actually like Pittman himself, 214 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: to be honest with you, but Dowdell is the kind 215 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: of guy who I think you can reap the most 216 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: from in terms of production, stats, numbers, tangible things on 217 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: the field going into the season. I like them all. 218 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:50,959 Speaker 1: But if you made me rank him right now, I 219 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,319 Speaker 1: probably go Doubtle one, Pittman two. 220 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 2: Dean. 221 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,319 Speaker 1: I'm just I don't feel like I know enough about 222 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 1: him to say it's him, but I put him three 223 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 1: and then Samuel to me, feels like a spare part. 224 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: I almost would have preferred Pierre because Pierre's good on 225 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: special teams and you could use him better that way. 226 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 2: Rick, you're on one of five to ninety X. 227 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 4: Hi, first time talking? Hey like your show a lot? Okay, Hey, 228 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:17,199 Speaker 4: I just wanted to say the thing the Steelers need, 229 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 4: I think, to prioritize before they even get a quarterback. 230 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 4: They need to go and get a free agent one 231 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 4: of the top free agent offensive left tackles and the guard. 232 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,319 Speaker 4: Because this is why a lot of maybe some of 233 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 4: the people and even even what's his name, Rogers mays 234 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 4: be procrastinating because he doesn't want to get beat up 235 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 4: or touch because a lot of the time King is 236 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 4: either pushed, sub or sacked because the offensive line was bad. 237 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I just don't know. 238 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: I don't know who the game changing changing Aaron Rodgers mind? 239 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 2: Left tackle is that's available right now? 240 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 4: Like? 241 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 2: Who is that left tackle? 242 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 4: Well, there's one with the Green Bays, there's one with Philadelphia, 243 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:08,359 Speaker 4: and there's one with what's the other team, Minnesota and Chicago. 244 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 2: How much are they going to cost? 245 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:17,599 Speaker 4: Hey, Well, put it this way, what's what's more efficient financially, 246 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 4: go full around and lose for three years because your 247 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 4: left side of the offensive line is bad, or just 248 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 4: go spend fifteen to twenty million dollars and get a 249 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 4: guy that's gonna be there for three or four years, 250 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,559 Speaker 4: and he can mentor the right side in the line, 251 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 4: which is all rookies and plus a good guard, and 252 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 4: you got the least the left side of the quarterback 253 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 4: protect it better than what you have right now. 254 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I am. 255 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 1: I'm actually more inclined, honestly for them to find the 256 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:49,079 Speaker 1: guard first, because I think it'd be easier to place 257 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 1: the guard in free agency and then draft the really 258 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,959 Speaker 1: good tackle and maybe have him start. But then again, 259 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: they might be sold on what they saw for Cook. 260 00:12:57,679 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: From Cook, I think that's a risk. I don't know 261 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: if he's a seventeen game starter. I liked what I 262 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: saw from him too. But my guess is they're leading 263 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: more in that direction than anything else. Thanks to the call, 264 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: John calling from Aliquippa. But you're on one O five nine, 265 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: the X. 266 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 5: Hey Tim, how you doing good? 267 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 3: Hey? 268 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 5: Anybody really ever thought about it this way that Aaron 269 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 5: Rodgers is actually sitting back waiting to see who they's 270 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 5: hiring for a wide receiver because they did this last year. 271 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 5: DK Metcalf comes into the picture. And then I know, 272 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 5: no other teams want to sign Rogers at that point, 273 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 5: and he signed. 274 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:36,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, but DK was already here. 275 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:41,319 Speaker 1: Remember he was throwing to DK in Los Angeles long 276 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 1: before he signed. Remember DK showed up in what was 277 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: that uh May or whatever. I actually know its March. 278 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: He saw he came here in March. So he was 279 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: here for two months before Rogers signed, and then it 280 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: was actually, if you want to think about it, DK 281 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: was here and Pickens was here at the same time. 282 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:00,839 Speaker 1: He could have signed in that window of when they're 283 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,319 Speaker 1: both on the roster before they move Pickens to Dallas. 284 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 2: So I don't think that's the case. I don't think 285 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 2: he's sitting. 286 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 1: Back waiting for who the wide receivers are per se, 287 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: and like Pittman's not gonna be Pittman, and a rookie 288 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 1: is not going to be enough to change Aaron Rodgers's 289 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: mind to say, Okay, I'm coming back. 290 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 2: If he was leaning towards retirement. 291 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, I just don't like the idea they're waiting on him. 292 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, in general, I don't like it either. 293 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: Because I don't think he's good enough to warrant that 294 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: kind of you know, bowing down to at this point, 295 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: appreciate the call. 296 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 2: Tweet me at Tim Ben's PGH. 297 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: I'll get to that clip from Chris Danski about the 298 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: safety position, which I think is intriguing. 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I'm gonna 317 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: join us in just a little bit one oh seventy 318 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: five of the Fan in Indy. He covers the Colts 319 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: and we'll tell us all about Michael Pittman Junior. Just 320 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: to clean up a couple of points from that last caller. 321 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: The first caller, actually the previous segment, he was talking 322 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: about some of the offensive tackles. 323 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 2: Here's who's still out there. 324 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: I think the Green Bay guy he was referencing was 325 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: Rashid Walker, twenty six seventh round pick in twenty twenty two. 326 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: One of those guys that got put in the starting 327 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: lineup and they constantly try to replace him and he 328 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: never got replaced. Good pass blocker could be better as 329 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: a run blocker. That sounds like Cook to me. I 330 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: like the way it was phrased at NFL dot Com, 331 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: which said, by a league average, he's probably an average tackle, 332 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: which means he's going to get paid way more than 333 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: average as a free agent. That's the perfect way to 334 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: describe tackles in free agency. You get an average one, 335 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: you pay way more than average to get him. But 336 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: he still might be an upgrade on what Cook could be. 337 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,239 Speaker 1: If you have to watch him for a full seventeen 338 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: game Swath Illuminar is resigning with the Giants. I think 339 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: Braydon Smith is the guy from Houston that he was 340 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: talking about that's out there. Braxton Jones was the Bears 341 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: guy he was talking about. Jones was re signing with 342 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: the Bears in a one year deal. So those are 343 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: just some of the guys. It's a tough putt to 344 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: get a good free agent tackle that you're not going 345 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: to spend way too much. There might be more guys 346 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: available on the interior. I think Jenkins is still out 347 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 1: there after he got let go. Verah Tucker might be 348 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 1: out there. Those guys are oft an injury addled, but 349 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 1: you know, if they need a body before they start 350 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: a new rookie guard, kind of like they bought time 351 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 1: before mcgormick became an everyday starter. That's when Daniels got hurt. 352 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: He was kind of thrust in after Daniels got hurt early, 353 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 1: but was lucky enough good enough to go. Maybe they 354 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: can find another rookie guard who's of the same ilk 355 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: early on day three or late on day two four 356 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 1: one two, three three three ninety nine thirty nine or 357 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 1: eight three three four one two w x DX. This 358 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 1: is Chris Damski, my colleague over a trib Live, and 359 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,199 Speaker 1: this dovetails with the thought that I just gave you 360 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 1: about how they attacked the secondary approach and free agency. 361 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 1: They signed a significant cornerback, They kept a cornerback that 362 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: could have been lost in free agency. That leads me 363 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 1: to believe that they fell. They were in a better 364 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: position where they were drafting and other places they wanted 365 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 1: to address with their draft picks that they're going to 366 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: want to go safety. 367 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 2: There and not want to go corner. 368 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: That's how I took that, because you tend to spend 369 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 1: more for corner than you do safety, and there are 370 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 1: still safeties out there that they've been tied to that 371 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 1: they didn't bother getting. Chris had this to say about 372 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: covering the combine out in Indianapolis a couple of weeks ago. 373 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: Here was in the breakfast of Ben's podcast with me, 374 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: and he checked in and made these comments. After the 375 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 1: first day or two on the job out there boots 376 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 1: in the ground in Indy. 377 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 7: The one thing that kind of stood out to me. 378 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 7: I don't know if this is a big surprise per se, 379 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 7: but I've been sort of there's a lot more momentum 380 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 7: being here and just talking to prospects and just being 381 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 7: around people that the Steelers looking safety more than I 382 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 7: maybe thought before I got here, you know, I think 383 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 7: not that. I mean, there was a parade of mediocre 384 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 7: veteran safeties came through Pittsburgh last summer and fall. I 385 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 7: shouldn't be too big of a surprise, and all of 386 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 7: them are free agents, and I don't think you really 387 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 7: want any of them back, really. I mean the Ramsey, 388 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 7: of course it's a different story, and you know, Jehaun 389 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 7: Elliot's coming back. But anyway, so it shouldn't be a 390 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 7: big surprise that the Steelers would look for a safety. 391 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 7: But this is more and more momentum about, you know, 392 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 7: earlier in the draft than you might have thought. I'm 393 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 7: not saying necessarily a first round pick or anything, but 394 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 7: it's also I think it's a little more maybe on 395 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 7: the table than maybe I thought it was. 396 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: And here's something interesting that schefter said today on the 397 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: McAfee show, And this is going on while we were 398 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,239 Speaker 1: on the air, so I'm just kind of catching up 399 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: to this here via the transcription from Steelers Depot. He 400 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: said about the Patrick Queen conversation that you might have 401 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 1: heard that a couple of NFC teams, particularly the Eagles 402 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: and Cowboys, are checking in on Queen. And there's a 403 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: report earlier today that Queen to the Cowboys had cooled. 404 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 1: This is what Chefter had to say about McAfee about 405 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: maybe moving on from Patrick Queen. An inside linebacker, that's 406 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 1: one we could pay attention to, but it doesn't sound 407 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: like it's pressing at the moment. Schefter said of the 408 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: Queen's speculation. Patrick Queen is unusual because that also continues 409 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,640 Speaker 1: to float out there. The Steelers say they're not interested 410 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: in moving on from him. This could maybe be a 411 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:21,239 Speaker 1: money issue where he might be looking for more or 412 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 1: maybe they want him to take a pay cut that 413 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 1: he's unwilling to take. Right now, I'm much more inclined 414 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,400 Speaker 1: to believe it's the latter, based on the whole scrubbing 415 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 1: of social media right after the season ended. I can't 416 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: imagine Queen. I guess I could, because I can imagine 417 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: anything from any player in any agent, But I don't 418 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:45,199 Speaker 1: know how Queen could lay the foundation to make an 419 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 1: argument that he's deserving of more money on a contract 420 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: that quite frankly he looks vastly overpaid for at this point. 421 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: You know, he's been better than a lot of what 422 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: they've tried to throw at the post Ryan Shazier problem. 423 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: He's been better than some of the spare parts they've 424 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: thrown at there. 425 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 2: But like right now, you. 426 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: Might at the stage of his development, right now, you 427 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: might want Devin Bush back more than you have Patrick Queen, 428 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: quite frankly, and I can't imagine that this would be 429 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: a case of Queen going to the Steelers and saying, 430 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: you should be giving me more money right now. 431 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 2: How he could do that with a straight face, I. 432 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 1: Don't know, because he was an a signing and he's 433 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: been like a C plus player B minus player. He 434 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 1: has really good games, really bad games. And it feels 435 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,919 Speaker 1: like every time there's a communication issue, it's either Queen 436 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,360 Speaker 1: complaining about somebody else screwing it up or someone subtly 437 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: saying it was about Queen not getting it right. 438 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 2: And that's constantly been a problem. 439 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: Maybe they'll change because they have new people in charge 440 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 1: of the defense. I don't know, But if Schefter's putting 441 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,439 Speaker 1: an either or proposition out there that this is about 442 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: either a queen asking for more money or b the 443 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: Steelers wanting to take him. 444 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 2: Down the pay like they've done with other people in 445 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 2: the past. 446 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,880 Speaker 1: It's got to be the latter, especially with the way 447 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,959 Speaker 1: it was smelling on the way out the door. It's 448 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: sort of had that whiff to it, you know, the 449 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: whole get rid of the social media references and all 450 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: that stuff Harrison was talking about. There had been grumblings 451 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: about him wanting out, or there was some discord on 452 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 1: the way out after the meeting and after Tomlin left too, 453 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: that Queen wanted to be done. I think that's it 454 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 1: more than it is him asking for more money. I 455 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: can't imagine that the Steelers would ever consider that, And 456 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: if he did ask, then that's definitely why he's on 457 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: the trade block. 458 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 2: But I bet it's more about the pay cut angle. 459 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: If they want to keep him at all, Maybe they 460 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: just don't want to keep him and maybe they will 461 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 1: give him away for pennies on the dollar. I don't 462 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: know if they're sold as they want to be on Wilson, 463 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,719 Speaker 1: I'm not. I always thought they were over selling him 464 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: from Jump Street. I thought he was believing some of 465 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,679 Speaker 1: his own hype at the start of the season. As usual, 466 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: they've got issues a inside linebacker and guess what they 467 00:22:55,960 --> 00:23:00,360 Speaker 1: freed themselves up to address that position as well, taken 468 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: care of wide receiver and corner in the manner that 469 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:07,360 Speaker 1: they did, and running back too. After losing Kenneth Gainwell, 470 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: we'll talk about Michael Pittman Junior. Next, Kevin Bowen one 471 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: O five to seven The Fan in Indianapolis. He's on 472 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: the way to tell us what the Steelers got in 473 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:15,719 Speaker 1: their newest wide receiver. 474 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 2: Next and one O five nine The X. 475 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 3: Every weekday at ten am local. 476 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:22,880 Speaker 4: Is going to be there. 477 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 3: It's Travis starting YOURR day commercial free on one nine 478 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 3: d X from the one oh five nine the ex 479 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 3: Weather Center. 480 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,360 Speaker 2: This report is sponsored by Mattress to go to Tim 481 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 2: Horton for the fat free donuts. 482 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 3: The X at one oh five nine. 483 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: Shotting us right now he covers the Indianapolis Colts for 484 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: one oh seven five the Fan in Indianapolis. He is 485 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:52,959 Speaker 1: Kevin Bowen talking about Michael Pittman Junior coming over to 486 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers from the Colts. The Steelers finally addressing 487 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: wide receiver. Besides DK me, Kevin, thanks for taking time 488 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: to join us. 489 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 8: Greatly appreciate it, you bet, Tim, thanks for having me. 490 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 1: How much should people expect here in Pittsburgh from Pittman? 491 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 2: What sort of player are they getting? 492 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 8: Yeah, he is a tough, hard ass playing wide receiver. 493 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 8: I've always said this about Michael Pittman JUNR. There's no 494 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 8: USC pretty boy in him, even though he is a 495 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 8: USC product. And you can very clearly see that his 496 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 8: dad was a ten year veteran in the NBA playing 497 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 8: running back or he's being the NFL playing running back. 498 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,439 Speaker 8: Just plays a position, you know, hard nose. You know, 499 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 8: we actually had somebody on our morning show today make 500 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 8: sure that you know when they watch Pittman over the years, 501 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 8: they kind of get hines Ward vibes just in his 502 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 8: physicality and you know, certainly his blocking prowess is one 503 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 8: of his strengths. So much more of a methodical, you know, 504 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 8: power wide out. You know, the Colt's got a lot 505 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 8: of easy completions to him and kind of let him 506 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 8: try to break tackles with his physicality. He's not going 507 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 8: to be some game breaker with his speed. And maybe 508 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 8: it really Colts didn't utilize him that much as a 509 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 8: vertical threat. So if you want to use the baseball 510 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 8: Algie probably more of a singles and doubles hitter versus 511 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 8: more of a home run hitter. But again, just a 512 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 8: really durable, solid, consistent white out. Never really ascended to 513 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 8: the true true number one, but was a really quality 514 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 8: wide out here for many years. 515 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: That's the vibe that I've gotten as well. I saw 516 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: that some of his advanced metrics weren't so great this year. 517 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 1: How much of that was on him, how much of 518 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,239 Speaker 1: that was on the quarterback situation in Indianapolis. 519 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 8: Yeah, I do think it was a bit of a 520 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 8: down year for him, especially because he battled a back 521 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 8: injury two years ago, pretty significantly played the road. 522 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 3: He plays through a ton of stuff. 523 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 8: And I kind of thought, all right, he's you know, 524 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 8: healed from the back injury. 525 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 3: You know, Dan Jones gave this. 526 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 8: Team some pretty good quarterback play early in the season, 527 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 8: and yet you know, Pittman didn't really tap into that. 528 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 8: But you know, granted, Tyler Warren's arrival I think took 529 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 8: some targets away, and then Alex Pearce has continued to scent. 530 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,120 Speaker 3: Certainly contributed that as well. 531 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 8: You know, there were maybe a couple more drops that 532 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 8: you know, started to rise up. I can think of 533 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 8: a couple, particularly late in the season, that you know, 534 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 8: was a bit uncharacteristic for a guy like him, because again, 535 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 8: he's more of a you kind of feel his presence, 536 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 8: you know, a little bit dead by a thousand paper cuts. 537 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 8: He's not necessarily going to be an eye popping, you know, 538 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 8: to target for whatever fifty five yard type of guy. 539 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 8: It's more of the seven for eighty uh, sort of afternoon. 540 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 8: So yeah, I'd say this year maybe a little bit 541 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,199 Speaker 8: of a down year for him, And you know, it's 542 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 8: kind of expected here in India twenty nine million dollars 543 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 8: given their cap situation, they just couldn't afford that with 544 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 8: resigning out peers. 545 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: I saw that about the drops too, and that was 546 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: a bit surprising to me because I've never thought of 547 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 1: that being a problem for him. 548 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 2: Did that feel like an anomaly this season to you 549 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 2: in that regard. 550 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's a good way to put it. 551 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 8: I can think of one against Houston the final game 552 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 8: of the season, when Riley Leonard was playing quarterback, and 553 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 8: it was just again really uncharacteristic for Pittman, and you know, 554 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 8: here you are, as the veteran wide out needing to 555 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 8: support your you know, first time starting rookie quarterback, and 556 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 8: in a way it was kind of all right, this 557 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 8: is I think most Colts fans were like, all right, 558 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 8: he might you might have to move on here this offseason. 559 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 3: And it was almost kind of a fitting way to 560 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 3: end it. 561 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 6: You know. 562 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 8: I thought ideally the Colts would be able to restructure 563 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 8: and keep him. So I don't think this is some 564 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 8: aging dude walking up the eighteenth hole by any means, 565 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 8: but you know, giving the Colts again cap situation and 566 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 8: you know what needed to be done with Pierce and 567 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 8: Daniel Jones, and they still want to do things defensively. 568 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:44,919 Speaker 8: I think it was just hard to juggle all of 569 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 8: that and then give Pittman another contract like you saw Pittsburgh. 570 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: Give him getting Kevin Bowen with this one O seven 571 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 1: to five to fan in Indianapolis. That's where I wanted 572 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: to go next. So I'm glad you walked me down 573 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 1: the fairway there. To continue the golf analogy for a second, 574 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: but as it relates to the contract that Pittsburgh was 575 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: willing to give him to consummate the deal versus the 576 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: big number that Alec Piercecott, how are Colts fans taking 577 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,640 Speaker 1: that in in Indianapolis, do they feel like they got 578 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 1: Pierce for a good number and they should have tried 579 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 1: to keep Pittman for the number that Pittsburgh gave him, 580 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: or how is that sort of being thought of in 581 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: Indiapolis today? 582 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think in a perfect world the third plus 583 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 8: of cash, yeah, you would be able to keep both. 584 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 8: But you know, again, this is not NFL reality, particularly 585 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 8: given the cult situation. So you're like, yeah, I guess 586 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 8: go back to the baseball analogy. You know, Pierce is 587 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 8: more of the home run hitter and you know, for 588 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 8: those curious, Rick Venturry is the cult of radio analyst 589 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 8: here in town. 590 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 3: I twooted out a video. 591 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 8: From a conversation we had with Rick actually back during 592 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 8: training camp, and this was when the Terry McLaurin situation 593 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 8: was playing out, him wanting a third contract with Washington, 594 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,239 Speaker 8: and I brought up to Rick at the time this 595 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 8: feels like what we are about to encounter with the Colts. 596 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 8: Alec Pierce wanting a second contract, Michael Pittman Junior wonting 597 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 8: a third contract. Pittman originally signed a three year deal 598 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 8: back a couple of years ago with Indy because he 599 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 8: wanted to hit the market again. He wanted to be 600 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 8: in this situation where he gets one more kind of 601 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 8: big deal. And so I said to vent Turrey, you know, 602 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 8: who would you keep if you were looking at Pierce 603 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 8: versus Pittman? 604 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 3: And again, Pierce a little bit. 605 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 8: Younger, more of the home run hitter, obviously a little 606 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 8: bit more expensive. It was about twenty nine million for 607 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 8: the Colts to retain him annually. Uh, but you know, 608 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 8: who would you, you know, want to keep if it 609 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 8: was only one or the other? 610 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 3: And yes, the answer is definitely Pierce. You know who's 611 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 3: easier to replace? 612 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 8: Who's a bit you know, more of a Hey, if 613 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 8: we go in the open market, if we go in 614 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 8: the draft, what's easier to find. 615 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 3: Is it more of the methodical pass cutcher. 616 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 8: Is it more of the big play guy down the field? 617 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 3: And I think it is easier to replace Pittman. 618 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 8: So I don't want to sound like that's just like 619 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 8: a knock on Michael Pittman Junior. Again, I've always been 620 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 8: a pretty big advocate of him and think that he's 621 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 8: a really solid white out. 622 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 3: But the reality is he's not this explosive. 623 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 8: Playmaker that's gonna you know, single handedly change a game 624 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 8: with a couple of targets. Again, he needs to be 625 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 8: kind of more of a methodical guy for you, and 626 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 8: I think opposite a guy like DK Metcap, he could 627 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 8: play into some of that. And I'll reiterate when I 628 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 8: said to the start, I mean he brings a level 629 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 8: of tenacity and physicality to the receiver position that you 630 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 8: just don't have. And I think he'll be very accepting 631 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 8: of being a consummate pro. I don't think he'll get 632 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 8: Divo white out from him at all. 633 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 3: I think he will one. 634 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 8: Understand the situation. You know, seeing the photoshop pictures of 635 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 8: him in a Steelers jersey yesterday, I was like, you 636 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 8: know what, he just fits that, Like he just he 637 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 8: just reminds me of a of a hard nose kind 638 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 8: of Pittsburgh Steeler wide out. I mean, you guys all 639 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 8: saw that Demonte Casey hit a few years ago inside 640 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 8: of Lucas Oil Stadium and for Pittman to play through 641 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 8: or and you know obviously left the game, but you know, 642 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 8: for him to come back from that, you know that 643 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 8: season was just damn impressive and he's been ejected from 644 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,239 Speaker 8: a game if you want to, you know, continue down 645 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 8: this route him. 646 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 2: Kyle, Oh, please tell me he didn't punch a fan. 647 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 2: He didn't punch a fan. 648 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, he did not. 649 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 8: He did not punch a fan, but definitely got into 650 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 8: the Kyle Dugger if he ironically Kyle Dugger a few 651 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 8: years ago with the with the then Patriots. 652 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 3: So again, very tough heart does wide out. 653 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: Well, it's bringing up DK as I was just alluding 654 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: to there. I don't really know that DK is a 655 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 1: number one receiver. He's paid like one. We want to 656 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: think he's won, but he wasn't one this year if 657 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: you look at the numbers. 658 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 2: Let's play Steelers general manager for a second. 659 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: If you were in that role and Mike McCarthy two 660 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: for that matter, and you're approaching the draft, because I 661 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: still think the Steelers need a Day one or Day 662 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 1: two wide out to complete this core around Metcalf. I 663 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: think Pittman's a really nice start, but I do want 664 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 1: to see a potential home run hitter, like we've talked 665 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 1: about a few times, be the next guy they get 666 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: in round one or round two potentially in the draft 667 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 1: this year. Would you go out and try to find 668 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: like the shifty slotty start him on the inside, bounce 669 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: him to the outside guy, or should the Steelers be 670 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 1: looking for an outside the numbers guy and think of 671 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: Pittman as a big slot type. Where would he fit 672 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 1: in better as a third wide receiver with a potential 673 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: stud rookie and DK. 674 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think the explosive element, you know, whatever shape 675 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 8: and size that looks like. 676 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 3: You know, obviously a speed game breaker can fit that. 677 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 3: But again for the. 678 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 8: Colts day had alec Pears is more of just a 679 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 8: six three, six y four climb the ladder, go and 680 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 8: get it. But I would label him as an explosive playmaker, 681 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 8: so they can come in different caps and sizes, But 682 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 8: that would be the route I think the compliment what 683 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 8: Pittsburgh has. I think Pittman will be more than happy 684 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 8: to do the hard nosed, dirty work stuff, whether that 685 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,719 Speaker 8: is as a bigger slot I can cow. I mean, 686 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 8: you could watch one hundred cutups of the Colts just 687 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 8: throwing quick hitters to him, you know, little screens extensions 688 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 8: for the run game where you know, he takes a 689 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 8: little whatever or one yard completion in the air and 690 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 8: he breaks the tackle or two and turns it into 691 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 8: seven or eight and again It's nothing that's gonna lead 692 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 8: Sports Center, but it is just nice, methodical, staying ahead 693 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 8: of the chains. And you know, certainly if it is Rogers, 694 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 8: I mean that I've seen him throw that, you know, 695 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 8: a million times, so that to me is I think 696 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 8: where he will kind of fit. 697 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 3: And yeah, I could definitely. 698 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 8: See that element, you know, being utilized from a draft standpoint. 699 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 8: You know, if you look at the Colts after they 700 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 8: took Pittman, they took Pittman in a round two they're 701 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 8: really gonna take him or p Higgins. Higgins went to 702 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 8: pick before to start round two back in twenty twenty, 703 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 8: and they drafted I want. 704 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 3: To say the next year. 705 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 8: I don't think they drafted a white Out. The next year. 706 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 8: The year after that, they drafted Pierce in round two. 707 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 8: The year after that, I believe it was Josh Downs 708 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 8: in round three, much more of a gadgety slot guy, 709 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 8: shorter guy. And then they drafted eighty Mitchell the year 710 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 8: after in round two. So you know, in three to 711 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 8: the next four drafts, they still drafted white Out round two, 712 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 8: round three, in round two, not to try and replace Pitman, 713 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 8: but I think obviously you're trying to create depth there 714 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 8: and you're trying to eventually kind of pass the torch there. 715 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 8: So yeah, that was seeming to make sense to me. 716 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:15,840 Speaker 1: The numbers I saw were roughly two thirds outside the numbers, 717 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 1: six hundred plus snaps outside the numbers insight for a 718 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 1: little under one hundred and about two hundred in the slot. 719 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 1: Does that sound about right representative of what he did 720 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:26,759 Speaker 1: last year? 721 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that would sound right to me. 722 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 8: I would say one area that I don't think he 723 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:37,320 Speaker 8: excels in as a white out that at times was 724 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 8: frustrating Colts fans as they projected him to kind of 725 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 8: ascend to. 726 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:44,399 Speaker 3: That true number one. He is not a great separator, so. 727 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 8: I think that is something that you're gonna have to 728 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 8: live with from him. 729 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 3: You know. Again, when I. 730 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,399 Speaker 8: Watched him in UFC, I remember I saw a little 731 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 8: bit more of a fifty to fifty climb the ladder 732 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,839 Speaker 8: guy at times. Colts really never tapped into that with him. 733 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 8: It was more kind of a tight end playing wide 734 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 8: out at times. 735 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,319 Speaker 3: It's kind of how I looked at Pittman there. 736 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 8: So, you know, again, from a separation standpoint, probably not 737 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 8: gonna do a whole lot. I mean, one thing that 738 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,720 Speaker 8: I think is worth pointing out. I'm an incredibly durable player. 739 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 8: I mean, I don't have the games missed in front 740 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 8: of me. 741 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 2: I think it was three over the last five years. 742 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I mean that's that's rather impressive. And 743 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 8: again playing through stuff at times, that back injury a 744 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 8: couple of years ago, I mean, that was a lot 745 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 8: for him, and you know, he was clearly laboring. I 746 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,800 Speaker 8: think it was two years ago now through that season. 747 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 8: So I think some of those numbers obviously with very 748 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 8: block quarterback play as well, you know, and that's largely 749 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 8: been a staple unfortunately for him throughout his career. He's 750 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,320 Speaker 8: had some pretty bad quarterback play to be frank, and 751 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 8: you had to still produce some some solid numbers, you know. 752 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 3: Not a huge touchdown guy. 753 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 8: You know, he had a few more i think this season, 754 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:52,839 Speaker 8: but that was always something that he wanted a little 755 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 8: bit more of as well. 756 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 1: Kevin, thanks so much for this. Greatly appreciated. Before we go, Pierce, 757 00:35:58,160 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 1: yes or no worth the money? Was that a good 758 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 1: set the way that they locked him up. 759 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:03,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. 760 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,959 Speaker 8: I mean it's a little desperate, but you know, again 761 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,439 Speaker 8: in today's NFL, he's also been a great drawer pass 762 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 8: interference penal leagues, which I know sounds weird, but he's 763 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 8: drawn about two hundred yards of that this past season, 764 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 8: so I think given the home run nature, given that 765 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:18,839 Speaker 8: he showed a little bit more of the route tree 766 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 8: rounding out this past season. He's only twenty five years 767 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 8: old with no major injury history, I think uh, I 768 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 8: think it made sense. 769 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:25,879 Speaker 4: Again. 770 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 8: Ideal world, the Colts would have brought back both, but 771 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 8: that's not their cap reality. I think, if you're gonna 772 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 8: pick one or the other, yes, it's a little bit 773 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 8: price here, but it makes sense. 774 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 1: Kevin, thanks for doing this in short notice. It's always 775 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,839 Speaker 1: great catching up with you. Let's do it again soon, Okay. 776 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 3: You bet, Sam, thanks for having man Keivin. 777 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,479 Speaker 1: Bowen won five to seven the fan in Indianapolis talking 778 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 1: to us about Michael Pittman Junior, the new Pittsburgh Steelers 779 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 1: wide receiver formerly of the Colts. Thanks to him for 780 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 1: joining us.