1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: Last week before facing Cleveland, Mike Tomlin said that he's 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: not a big picture guy. And I kind of feel 3 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: like Tomlin prefers if we selectively apply that characterization of 4 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: him when it is best suited for a situation. But okay, coach, 5 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: t'all play along. You're not a big picture guy. Except 6 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: here's the thing with the state of the AFC North 7 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: right now, let alone the entire AFC, let alone the 8 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: entire NFL. You have to be a big picture guy 9 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 1: because the picture of the playoffs is already taking shape, 10 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 1: and your team is squarely in the middle of that picture. 11 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,919 Speaker 1: I'm Tim Benzon for Mark madd Today. Lots of Steelers 12 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 1: talk today plenty on Penn State two, with James Franklin 13 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: being fired and Penguin's conversation with Peter maguire Later this hour, 14 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: Brian Metzer at five thirty, the Pens are on the 15 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: X ten to thirty to night in Anaheim against the Ducks, 16 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: and look, it's not just teams in the AFC North 17 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: that are struggling to find traction. 18 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 2: Frankly, it's the whole NFL. As I just talked. 19 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: About with Tom Pro Football Talk as the Steelers at 20 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: four and one as the fifth best team in the 21 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: National Football League. Consider some of these factors before you 22 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: say that's crazy and stupid. There were no unbeaten teams 23 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: left in the entire league. Just five weeks in. The 24 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: Eagles got to four and one with the thirtieth ranked 25 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: offense in the National Football League. Buffalo got to four 26 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 1: and one with the fifth worst rush defense in the 27 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 1: National Football League. And my only question after watching them 28 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:44,559 Speaker 1: last night is who are the four that were worse? 29 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: Bjeon Robinson is still running right now. The Chargers lead 30 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: THEFC West with a. 31 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 2: Plus two point differential. 32 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: The Eagles lead the NFC East at minus one, and 33 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: the Niners lead the NFC at minus three. The Colts 34 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: are five and one and the Jags are four and two. 35 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: Those two teams they're over under win totals in Vegas 36 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 1: to start the season were set at seven and a 37 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: half and the Patriots are four and two. 38 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 2: There over under win. 39 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: Total was eight and a half, and boy did I 40 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: think that was too high. 41 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 2: So at four and. 42 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: One in an AFC North Division where the other three 43 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: teams are all under five hundred, there are plenty of 44 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: reasons to feel good about where the Steelers sit coming 45 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:36,679 Speaker 1: out of there, went over Cleveland and going into the 46 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: short week against the Cincinnati Bengals. The reality though, is, 47 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: like everybody else in this discombobulated league, the Steelers have 48 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:49,839 Speaker 1: a lot to work out, particularly on offense now. At 49 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: his press conference last week before the Browns game, Mike 50 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: Tomlin was asked where he sees the need for his 51 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: team to improve on the offensive side of the ball. 52 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 2: And this is what Tomlin said at the. 53 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 3: Time, all areas would be quite honest with you, you know, 54 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 3: that's the nature of this day, particularly when you have 55 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 3: a young front individually and collectively. I just think the 56 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 3: only way to get better gain experiences through playing. And 57 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 3: so we've had some good moments, we've had some moments 58 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 3: that aren't good. We got to keep pushing and we 59 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 3: better win along the way. That's what a general mindset 60 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 3: or tend to regard to subject. 61 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 1: All right, So I'm going to give Tomlin credit for 62 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: that response, and I'll tell you why in just a second. 63 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 2: But let's sort of flush this out here, because. 64 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: These weren't the exact numbers of the time when Tomlin 65 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: was speaking, but they're very close. 66 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 2: I'll give them to you. 67 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: What they are right now, amplifying Tomlin's point. The Steelers 68 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: are twenty ninth in the NFL in total offense right now. 69 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: Passing the ball, they're twenty fifth, and that's up a 70 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: little bit from the week before when Tomlin said that. 71 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: Now they only average eighty four yards per game on 72 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: the ground, and that's twenty ninth in the league. That's 73 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: still better than what Tomlin was talking about at the time, 74 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: So at least Tomlin was acknowledging those issues instead of 75 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: simply pointing at the standings and saying first place is 76 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: first place, or you are what your record is, or 77 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: some other empty coaching cliche, which I think tom was 78 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: usually predisposed to doing just to get through the answer 79 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: and get through the press conference. Now the challenge is 80 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: doing something about all that again. I'll give you the numbers. 81 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: Twenty fifth in throwing, twenty ninth in running, twenty ninth 82 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: overall in the National Football League in total offense. Yet somehow, 83 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: with all those numbers, they're right in the middle of 84 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: the league when it comes to scoring points because the 85 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: rest of the league stinks too. Now, one area that 86 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: might help is hunting for more big plays in the 87 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 1: passing game, and despite Aaron Rodgers' Hall of Fame resume, 88 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 1: he's only averaging five point four average air yards per 89 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 1: attempt and that's last the league, but it still is 90 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: up the four point nine that he posted last week. 91 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: That's because he hit a couple of shots down field 92 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: a dk Metcalf for twenty five yards a piece, one 93 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: for a touchdown against the Browns, another one that came 94 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: up just short, and Tomlin has talked about it. They 95 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: don't want to force the ball into two IY shelves. 96 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 1: If Metcalf is drawing double coverage, we all see it. 97 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: They don't want to risk Aaron Rodgers behind that offensive line, 98 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: even though a pass blocked quite well against the Browns 99 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: last week. In order to run the ball, the Steelers 100 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: know they need Darnell Washington and another offensive lineman to 101 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: do it effectively. 102 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 2: I will say this. 103 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: As a compliment to Tomlin. He seems to have a 104 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: handle on what's wrong offensively. He doesn't appear delusional about 105 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: how this team is cobbled together together, this above average 106 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: start and what is otherwise a painfully mediocre league. He's 107 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 1: not using the four to one record as a way 108 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 1: to wrap himself in denial. 109 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 2: Improvements need to occur, and they need to occur. 110 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: Fast, Otherwise the Steelers are going to slip back like 111 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: the Bills have done, like the Chiefs did at the 112 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: start of the year, and like the Browns and the 113 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: Bengals and the Ravens in their own division or many 114 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: other perceived preseason contenders for the AFC crown have already 115 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 1: sort of slipped up in various ways thus far in 116 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. Acknowledging these problems great first step fixing 117 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: them something much more important and difficult for Tomlin and 118 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 1: the staff. They took some steps in the Browns game. 119 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,919 Speaker 1: They can probably get by against the Bengals even on. 120 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 2: A short week on the road this week. 121 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 1: But then it gets dicey Packers, Colts, Chargers all over 122 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: the next three weeks. The Colts, by the way, number two, 123 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: number two in that poll on Pro Football Talk. So 124 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: what do you think happens over this next four game stretch? 125 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 1: And more to the point, more germane to the conversation, 126 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers really the fifth best team in football 127 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: eight three, three, four one two ninety nine thirty nine. 128 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: And as we discussed open up the program, I don't 129 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: look at the Steelers and see a top five team. 130 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: Then again, I don't look at the Colts and see 131 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: the second best team in the league either. These feel 132 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: to me like college football rankings in August, college basketball 133 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: rankings at Thanksgiving. Who the Ravens and Chiefs have played 134 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: so far is a whole different level than who the 135 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: Steelers have played, totally different. Do I think in February 136 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: we're gonna be looking at the Steelers. 137 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 2: And saying top five team? 138 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 4: No? 139 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:48,239 Speaker 2: I don't. 140 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,679 Speaker 1: Based on how the division is happening right now, though, 141 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: Do I see the prospect of them potentially winning it 142 00:07:56,200 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: at like ten and seven? Yeah, absolutely, that's possible at 143 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: this point. In fact, it probably should happen. They could 144 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: be halfway there already. If they beat the Bengals on Thursday, 145 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: start doing math. If they win that game, five wins, 146 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: two more games against Cleveland and the Bengals, that could 147 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: get you to seven and between the Dolphins, Bears, and 148 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: Ravens twice. Can they scratch three more wins out of 149 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: that to get to ten? They certainly should. Can they 150 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: win just one of the next three against Green Bay 151 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: or Indy at home and the Chargers on the road. 152 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: Can they get just one of those, because if so, 153 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: then they can lose twice to the Ravens. Once Lamar 154 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: gets healthier, drop both games against the Bears and the 155 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 1: Dolphins in that equation and still come out with ten. 156 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: So I can squint and see ten wins out of that. 157 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,319 Speaker 1: In fact, I don't think I have to squint that hard. 158 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: The Steelers can be in the driver's seat to win 159 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 1: the division, and they can be vastly overrated based. 160 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 2: On their start. 161 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 1: All at the same time, both things can be entirely true. 162 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: This is the opposite of the old cliche that I 163 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: was talking about with Tom, where the rising tide raises 164 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: all boats. In this case, the receding tide is raising 165 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: the Steelers boat. And sure it may still hit an iceberg, 166 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: but for right now it's churning through some pretty calm 167 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 1: seas and open waters. Eight three, three, four one two 168 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: ninety nine thirty nine. All right, still, come here in 169 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: the three o'clock hour of the Mark Madden Show. We 170 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: are going to talk some pens. If you want to 171 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: talk about the Penguins and their start, we can do that. 172 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: I do want to get into the college football conversation 173 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,959 Speaker 1: about James Franklin and some of the reaction that we're 174 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: seeing nationally as opposed to what things are being said 175 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: here in Pittsburgh, the Pittsburgh portion of the Penn State 176 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: fan base. In fact, we'll get to that next. Pierre 177 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: Maguire coming up at three point thirty four. More Penguins talking. 178 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: The five o'clock hour. Brian Metzer is going to join us. 179 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: Mike the Fable will come on in the four o'clock 180 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: hour and we'll talk to Mike about the Steelers. 181 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 2: All that to come here in your home for the 182 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:13,199 Speaker 2: Penns one o five nine the x. 183 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:20,319 Speaker 5: iHeartRadio Alter twenty six presented by Capitol on the x 184 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 5: at one five nine. 185 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: All right, open up the show earlier today talking about 186 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 1: the Steelers and this Pro Football Talk story the latest 187 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: power rankings that they do. A win over the Cleveland 188 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 1: Browns has elevated them from the eleventh best team in 189 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: football to number five overall. 190 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 2: Vastly overrated. 191 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: Yes, deserving of that based on where they're probably gonna 192 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 1: finish in the AFC North though, Yes, And that's sort 193 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 1: of the conundrum facing how we analyze the Pittsburgh Steelers 194 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,319 Speaker 1: right now. But just when I say the sentence. I'm 195 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: gonna make it real easy. I'm gonna make the conversation 196 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 1: real easy to follow when I say Pittsburgh Steelers, top 197 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 1: five team in the NFL right now? 198 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 2: Yes or no? 199 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: You answer eight three, three, four, one two ninety nine 200 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: thirty nine? Is that deserved or not? I do want 201 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,319 Speaker 1: to talk about the Penn State situation a little bit too, 202 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: because I stumbled across this story where is it from 203 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: the Slate or something like that where And there's been 204 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: a couple of these that have kind of been like 205 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: big overarching kind of think pc college football opinion columns 206 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: about Franklin getting fired at Penn State, and boy, what 207 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: a commentary that is on college football about the big 208 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 1: money world of college football. 209 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 2: That you have this huge buy out for a guy 210 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 2: that is in the middle. 211 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 1: Of one three game losing streak. Well, it's just one 212 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,839 Speaker 1: down year. And you know what does this say about 213 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: the state of college football that you're gonna have one 214 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 1: losing streak and you're a team that was number two 215 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: in the country to start the year and then you're 216 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: fired and you don't even complete the season. Well, I 217 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: think what it says is your massive disappointment and that's 218 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: what Penn State is, and there's such a disappointment that 219 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 1: they lived down to my level of expectation, if that 220 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: makes any sense. I remember saying on these airwaves, and 221 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:29,319 Speaker 1: I remember saying just in casual conversation. 222 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 2: I think even wrote. 223 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: It once that if you made me pick a team 224 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: that I thought was going to win the national title 225 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 1: at the start of the year, I was going to 226 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: pick Penn State. But I knew I was going to 227 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 1: be wrong because they were just gonna slam into that 228 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: brick wall at some point or another, and then that 229 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: brickwall became Oregon. So when they lived down to that 230 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: level expectation and then somehow crashed through the floor another 231 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: two levels with the losses to UCLA and the loss 232 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: to Northwestern, you can take your think piece about what 233 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,359 Speaker 1: this says about the state of college football and Kramitt. 234 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,319 Speaker 1: I have no problem with Penn State doing what they 235 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 1: did to James Franklin because the situation was just untenable there. 236 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 2: That's how I view it, and. 237 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: Kind of associating this with what we're used to seeing 238 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: here in Pittsburgh with Mike Tomlin. 239 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 2: There just is an undercurrent of being. 240 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: Perpetually dissatisfied with above average performance, and the Steelers, by 241 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 1: technical definition, have been above average the whole time. 242 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin has been the coach. 243 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: But when you can't win the playoffs, or in the 244 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: case of Franklin, you can never beat a top five team, 245 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: then you aren't allowed to lose the one hundred percent games. 246 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: If you never win a fifty to fifty game, you 247 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: never win an ann Arbor, you never win in Columbus, 248 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 1: you never be a top five team. If you never 249 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: win those games, then you're never allowed to lose the 250 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: games you're supposed to win one hundred percent of the time. 251 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: And he did in inglorious fashion, and that's why he's gone. 252 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 1: And I'm not offended by it, like my football sensibilities 253 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: as a fan, and oh my god, what am I watching? 254 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 1: If this team can be number two in the country 255 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden the coach has to 256 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 1: be fired because they lost three in a row. Well, 257 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: when's the last time somebody lost as a twenty point 258 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: favorite twice in a row? And the fan base is 259 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: just so irate, Like I can't imagine what the next 260 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: game at State College would have been like if they 261 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: had that guy in the sidelines again, why not do 262 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: it now? You know, in a weird way. And I 263 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: think the recruiting aspect is a huge part of this, 264 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: because so long as it looked like he was coming back, 265 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: if I'm a recruit that was not one hundred percent 266 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: on board, I'm gonna be dissuaded. The longer he's there, 267 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: I'll live with the uncertainty of Hey, I like the campus, 268 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: I like the program. I like what you're offering me 269 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: in terms of nil and pay to play. I'm still interested. 270 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: Just hire the right guy and I'll come. But if 271 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: I'm fifty to fifty on staying and I don't want 272 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: to stay because of how things are going, I understand 273 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: the move like there are some that are saying you 274 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: fire Franklin, Well, that throws things into such an chaotic 275 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: state of affairs. 276 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 2: Everybody's going to decommit. I don't know. 277 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: You hire the right guy, and everything else about the 278 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: campus is still what I committed to. 279 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 2: I'll stay. See you next spring. 280 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: Eight three, three, four, one two thirty nine. Let's go 281 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: to the Viper in Cannonsburg and the Steelers Viper. You're 282 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: on one O five nine the X. 283 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 6: Jim Good day, sir. The reason I'm calling is because 284 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 6: he put the question out whether or not you think 285 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 6: Steelers are a top five team. 286 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 2: And not not quite there. 287 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: I'm saying, do you agree with those that have asserted it, 288 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: because I think that's high but go ahead, yes. 289 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 6: No, no, sir, I do not believe their top five team. 290 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 6: I know don't necessarily look at strength to schedule at 291 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 6: the professional level like we do at the college level. 292 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 6: But if you look at who they have played, really, 293 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 6: in all honesty, the only playoff team possibly they played 294 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 6: right now, would you say it's the Seahawks? 295 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: No, because I do think it's possible that the Patriots 296 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: slip in Okay, especially with them how bad the AFC 297 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: North is, because think about it, like, even as flawed 298 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: as the Bills look right now, you probably think the 299 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: Bills are going to win that division, right. 300 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 6: Yes, for sure, the Bills are going to win that 301 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 6: And it's it's. 302 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: Likely that we're going to see three teams from the West, 303 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: right Yeah, I. 304 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 6: Think you're probably gonna have Kansas City, You're definitely gonna 305 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 6: have the Chargers, and then probably somebody else out there. 306 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: So then it's entirely possible that the last wild Card 307 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: comes down to whoever is second in the South or 308 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: the Patriots, because everybody looks cooked in the North, correct, 309 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: So I could see the Patriots. 310 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 2: Being the seventh team. 311 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: So I'm not ready to rule them out of the 312 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: playoff position just because they're off to a good start 313 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: and are probably, like the Steelers, a little over puffed 314 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: up right now. 315 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 6: Well, my question for you, then, too is how where 316 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 6: are you as far as on the Ravens. You know, 317 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 6: if they get a hellfu Lamar Jackson back, their defense 318 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 6: looked a lot better against the Rams. Obviously, I'm a 319 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 6: Steeler fan through and through, and I want them the 320 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 6: tank and continue the tank. But you know, they get 321 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 6: Lamar back, that offense is completely different. Their defense figures 322 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 6: out a little bit and they can whole team to 323 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 6: seventeen points. That Ravens offense is He's going to score 324 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 6: and they're going to come on late. 325 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: And their schedule is crap moving forward, their schedule, they've 326 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 1: got three in a row on the row, but they're 327 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:28,239 Speaker 1: all winnable games. And if Lamar comes back healthy, you know, 328 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: we thought the Ravens were done when they were eight 329 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: and five, and when they're buying the Steelers were ten 330 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 1: and three last year and they won the division. 331 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 2: So you know, I do not want to be in a. 332 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: Mode yet where we're ruling the Ravens out when they've 333 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: still got what eleven games to play. So I'm with you, 334 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 1: they're not done being a threat until they're eliminated. The 335 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 1: big question is how healthy does Lamar look when he 336 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: comes back? 337 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 2: And have they already quit? 338 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: To your point, though, the defense was a lot better 339 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: against the Rams than I expected it to be going 340 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,080 Speaker 1: into that game, thanks to call four one two all 341 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 1: right eight three three four one two ninety nine thirty 342 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: nine Peer McGuire. Next, we talk hockey with Pierre. We 343 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 1: come back here on one O five nine, The x. 344 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 7: It's Story Show, weekday mornings at six Sweet Kid one 345 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 7: nine DX. 346 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 2: Hey, this is Linking Kennedy. Here's what's trending on the 347 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 2: Iheartsports Network, presented by MJM Insurance. 348 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 8: The Penguins are set to open a West Coast wing tonight. 349 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 8: They're out in Anaheim and Penn's defenseman Crystal tang He 350 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,719 Speaker 8: could be back in action after nursing a lower body injury. 351 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 8: Steelers coach Mike Tomoin was shocked by the Browns trade 352 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 8: to Joe Blacko to the Bengals. He said, it doesn't 353 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 8: make sense to deal within the division. And the Brewers 354 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 8: turned the first ever eight six two double play in 355 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 8: baseball postseason history in their NLCS loss to the Dodgers 356 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 8: last night. 357 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 2: I'm Scott David said. While some insurance companies use gimmicks 358 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 2: to get your attention, NJM would rather focus on putting 359 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 2: their palms. It is stand the man gable the ravatas. 360 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 2: How you doing Mark, I'm doing good? The exit one 361 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 2: oh five nine. 362 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: Time now to talk hockey with Peer McGuire. You can 363 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 1: hear him as part of the Pittsburgh Penguins Radio network. 364 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 1: And don't forget the Pens played a night against the 365 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 1: Ducks ten thirty. Be listening here to oneh five nine. 366 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: The XPR is brought to us by Always Safe Flagging 367 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: and Traffic Control, making traffic safe again, now hiring with 368 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: four oh one K and benefits. 369 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 2: Visit awsafe dot net. 370 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 1: Pierre, great to talk to you again, and uh, let's 371 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 1: start with a broad based question. You can take this 372 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 1: in any direction you want. But three games into the 373 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: Dan Mues era as head coach of the Penns. Has 374 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: anything surprised you from what you've seen with Dan as 375 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: the coach or is this what you expected to see 376 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 1: in terms of structure and pace of play from a 377 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: Dan muse team. 378 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 7: Structure and pace of play, For sure. I was a 379 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,360 Speaker 7: little surprised when it was one one on Saturday night 380 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 7: that the Rangers opened up the flood gates as much 381 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 7: as they did. I think it's one of those learning 382 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 7: lessons ten for a young team, and I would expect 383 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 7: being to have learned their lessons now. To be fair, 384 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 7: they're going into a very tough situation in Anaheim tonight. 385 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 7: I spoke with Anaheim Duck head coach Joe Quendoll yesterday 386 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 7: for a long period of time, and he's really excited 387 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 7: about his young team. They've got one line with Cutter Goce, 388 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:17,479 Speaker 7: Mason mctavis and Beckett Seneke. The oldest player in that 389 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 7: line is twenty two mccabish and the youngest player in 390 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 7: that line is Senekee at nineteen. Carter Doci's had a 391 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 7: great start to the year. It's a team that's gotten 392 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,640 Speaker 7: a little bit more veteran mudership when they had Chris 393 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 7: Prider into the mix and Mikhel Granlin, who I think 394 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:36,439 Speaker 7: people in Pittsburgh know, and Ryan Paling, who people in 395 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 7: Pittsburgh know. So it's an interesting dynamic what's going on. 396 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 7: But I would expect with Dan News has done with 397 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 7: the Penguins or something we're probably going to see the 398 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 7: whole year is structure intelligence, and there will be some 399 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 7: games where they get blown out just because things will collapse. 400 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 7: You know, have hard time figuring it out as a 401 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 7: young team. But by and large, I think this team 402 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 7: is going to do well because they work. Habits are good. 403 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: As far as offending against that line and in terms 404 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 1: of just defending against the Ducks overall. Then from a 405 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: tactical point of view, Pierre, what personnel is best to 406 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 1: go up against that line and try to slow down 407 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 1: Anaheim's attack. 408 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,360 Speaker 7: I would play power on power. I played with Kel 409 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:19,199 Speaker 7: Crosby and Rust against go Chane, McTavish and Senekey as 410 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 7: much as possible, because you're going to force those guys 411 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 7: to play defense rather than play offense. And if you 412 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 7: can do that, that really helps you a lot. And 413 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,880 Speaker 7: then I would really be comfortable with Mantha MalCon and 414 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 7: Brosol playing against Croator Carlston and Cologne. So it's one 415 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 7: of those where it's probably going to be a power 416 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:40,239 Speaker 7: on Power night. 417 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 8: Now. 418 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 7: I don't know if Joel will buy into that for 419 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 7: the entire game, but I would say that for Dan Hughes, 420 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 7: if you could establish that early, that helps his team 421 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 7: a lot on the road, especially with the puck position 422 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 7: game with Cal, Crosby and Rust can play. 423 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 1: I want to talk about those first two lines with 424 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: the Pens in a little bit of a different form 425 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,719 Speaker 1: and fast here, Pierre, the first of which with the Raquel, 426 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: Rust and Crosby line that you talked about. As they 427 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 1: have been reunited now with Russ getting back and healthy, 428 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 1: did you get a sense maybe in that Ranger game, 429 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 1: the third game of the season, that they were trying 430 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:14,919 Speaker 1: to do too much and putting so much of the 431 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: offensive onus on their shoulders. 432 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,199 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that's more than fair. Absolutely, I do 433 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 7: think it's more than fair. After Kimball's scored to make 434 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 7: it one one, I was expecting a search, I got 435 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 7: the search from the wrong team, and so again, I 436 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 7: think part of that is just it's learning. It's understanding 437 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 7: what everybody's role is, understanding the messaging from the coach. 438 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 7: But I think Russ Crosby and Roquel no They've got 439 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 7: to score in order for this team to win. The 440 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 7: bottom of the lineup's not going to score that much. 441 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 7: Even though you can say Kindall's a death player, I 442 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,439 Speaker 7: think eventually it will prove out to be more than that. 443 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 7: You're not going to get a lot of offense out 444 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 7: of Lazatt, You're not going to get a lot of 445 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 7: offense out of Noel and Cherry. You're not going to 446 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 7: get a lot offense out of kind of do It. 447 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 7: What you're going to get from them is energy and 448 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 7: push back physically and a lot of passions. But you're right, 449 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 7: the stress is going to be on the top line, 450 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 7: in particular the provide offense. 451 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,919 Speaker 1: The size is just so impressive with that line that 452 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,959 Speaker 1: Malkin is on right now with Brazil and Mantha. I 453 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 1: was talking to some of the other guys in the 454 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: locker room about that, particularly guys who will play with 455 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 1: Gino for a while, and like Rust said, this is 456 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: what I was mining for, and he just gave me 457 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: the quote. It's just weird to see him out there 458 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,919 Speaker 1: and see him not be the biggest guy in his line. 459 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 1: In fact, he might be the shortest if you get 460 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: him out of skates, that's how big those guys are. 461 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 2: It's maybe not a. 462 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: Crash and bang line Pierre, but there's still something physically 463 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 1: imposing to the size, even if you're not expecting big 464 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: hits and violence out of it, Like how do I 465 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 1: skate through these guys? How do I skate around these guys? 466 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 2: Just the reach that they have. 467 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 1: I thought it was indicative the goal that Braso scored 468 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 1: in the first game of the year, the poke forward 469 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: on the face off by Malkin, the reach by Brazo 470 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 1: to get it the hands in tight. I like what 471 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 1: I see. There is a very unique look to that line. 472 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 7: Well said, I completely agree, and you know, Tim, the 473 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 7: biggest thing for them is they just with gin Over 474 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 7: such a good defensive player, especially now that he's moving 475 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 7: his speed. I think he's moving better now that he 476 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 7: had the previous two years, and if he can keep 477 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 7: that going, that takes a lot of pressure off of 478 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:29,199 Speaker 7: manthan Brizil. Neither one of them will be considered for 479 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 7: the Selfie Trophy as the best defensive forward in the league, 480 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 7: but they're They're very capable and one of the things 481 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 7: I think they can do to really alleviate some of 482 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 7: the pressure on the younger defenseman for Pittsburgh in particular, 483 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 7: is to get pucks in deep and dominate not so 484 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 7: much crash and bang, but dominate puck possession, dominate cycle, 485 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 7: and dominate base off playing the offensive zone and at 486 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 7: the offensive blue line. And if they can do that 487 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 7: with the face offs in particular and the cycle down low, 488 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 7: that's going to eat up a lot of time and 489 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 7: over the course of the game and making an easier 490 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 7: game for the Penguins to play. 491 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 1: Brazo's twenty seven, He's six six to twenty seven. He's 492 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: topped out at twenty two points in season. What is 493 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: his high end, Pierre? Is there possibility for him to 494 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 1: be a little bit of a later bloomer here with 495 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 1: the Penguins, Well, there is. 496 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 7: As long as they given the opportunity to play with, 497 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 7: you know, playmaking type players. If you're going to play 498 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 7: him in a checking role, that's not going to happen 499 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 7: for him. He was a tremendous score at tim in 500 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 7: North Bay in the Ontario Hockey League. He's an undrafted player. 501 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 7: He got his opportunity because Kyle Dugas, who was a 502 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,439 Speaker 7: general manager in Sue Saint Marie before he went to 503 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 7: be the assistant GM in Toronto, and gave him an 504 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,400 Speaker 7: opportunity because he played so many games. That's a big 505 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 7: rivalry North Bay and Susan Marie up in the northern 506 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 7: part of Ontario, so he got to know him and 507 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 7: watch him. And Brazil has developed into a very useful 508 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 7: player as long as he's played in the proper position, 509 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,959 Speaker 7: and right now he's being played in the proper position, 510 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 7: which is really good. 511 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: How about Kendall and Brunick on their nine game audition here, 512 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,919 Speaker 1: how have you thought they've handled themselves to this point 513 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 1: and what does that say about forecasting for the rest 514 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 1: of their time in the NHL. Should it end at 515 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,880 Speaker 1: nine games for both or either of them or should 516 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: they both stay. 517 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 7: It's a little early still. They've only played three games. 518 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 7: He got six to go on accluding tonight, and they're 519 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 7: on the road. Brunett looks to me like he's ready 520 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,679 Speaker 7: for prime time. And if you look at the Penguins, 521 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 7: I don't think they're going to mess around with what's 522 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 7: going on in Wilkesbury where they're really off to a 523 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 7: great start. I think Harrison probably stays here, maybe eventually, 524 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 7: if they do think he's getting worn out or tired, 525 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 7: maybe you send him to the World Junior at Christmas. 526 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 7: Kindall's a great story. I mean, no, I don't think 527 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,120 Speaker 7: too many people ahead him making an NHL roster this year. 528 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 7: But he has gone in and his speed is very, 529 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 7: very apparent. He's comfort level with Pucket is very apparent, 530 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 7: his peripheral vision is very apparent, and his ability to 531 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 7: make plays and confined areas is really apparent. Now you're 532 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 7: on the road, the other team gets the last change 533 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 7: and he got some travel coming up, so that's the 534 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 7: first time his experienced that. Let's see where he is 535 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 7: at the end of his trip. But I think both 536 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,120 Speaker 7: of those young men have done fantastically well, and I'm 537 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 7: very excited and encourage long term because of the start 538 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 7: they've had in Wilkesbury as a group. 539 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: I guess peer the reason that maybe I was more 540 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: dubious of Kindle succeeding so quickly at the NHL level 541 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: was just when I saw him up close and in 542 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: person over the summer, I just didn't think physically he 543 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:40,919 Speaker 1: was going to be able to handle it this early 544 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 1: in his development. How have you found that aspect of 545 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: the challenge of being a rookie at that age, at 546 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: this level. 547 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 2: For him, yeah, a. 548 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:54,159 Speaker 7: Little bit surprised again knowing his game from Calgary in 549 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 7: the Western Hockey League. Not an overly large guy and 550 00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 7: a guy that got a lot of points, but did 551 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,919 Speaker 7: it basically because he dominated with his skill and the 552 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 7: speed out of his physicality. And that's why I think 553 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 7: this is going to be a really really good test 554 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,640 Speaker 7: for him, for Harrison, and I think for the whole 555 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 7: team honestly, because they're going up against some physical teams, 556 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 7: are going up against some teams that are urging for points, 557 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 7: and it's like when you go out Western you're a 558 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,719 Speaker 7: kid for the first time. It's way different from what 559 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 7: you used to You know, you got sand beaches, you've 560 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 7: got ocean waters, You've got you know, palm trees, you 561 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 7: got heat. It's different for hockey guys than they've never 562 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 7: gone through this before, and I don't think Kendall or 563 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 7: Grunick had ever gone through that before, which. 564 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 2: You think the two goalies so far, Tristan I thought. 565 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 7: Was really good, especially late in the game against the 566 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 7: New York Islanders. I thought it was fantastic. I really did. 567 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 7: I was very very impressed by Tristan. I like Sea 568 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 7: Loops game obviously to shut out of the New York 569 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 7: against the Rangers, and I like it for good portions 570 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 7: of the game until probably near the end of the 571 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,239 Speaker 7: second in the player I just thought there was too 572 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 7: many letdowns when the Rangers you turn the favor against 573 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 7: the Penguins on Saturday Night. But buy and large, it's 574 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 7: been more consistent this year than it was last year, 575 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 7: and I was very happy that. You know, again, Tristan 576 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 7: had to come up with some huge staves against the 577 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 7: Islanders late in that game. I thought he was very good. 578 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 8: You know. 579 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 1: I was wondering a little bit, Pierre about sort of 580 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: the landscape of the metro and where New York was 581 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: going to fit into it under Sully. After seeing the 582 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: Rangers play the Penguins twice, do you get a sense 583 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: of how that's going to work with Sully in New 584 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: York and how those players are going to respond to him. 585 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 7: I think the players will respond well to him, Mike. 586 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 7: Concern for the Rangers. I know people in Pittsford don't care, 587 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 7: but my concern for the Rangers on the question you're 588 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 7: asking me, Tim is how deep are they on defense, 589 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 7: how deeper they at ten or ice, and are their 590 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 7: older players going to be able to hold up and 591 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 7: produce a key time over the course of the year, 592 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 7: Because I've seen Ranger teams, you know, where they go 593 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 7: into Buffalo and they steamroll the Savers who aren't very good. 594 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 7: They come into Pittsburgh and it's a one to one 595 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 7: game for almost forty minutes, and then they take advantage of, 596 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 7: you know, some opportunities in the tower playing particularly, extend 597 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 7: the lead and win the way they did comfortably. But 598 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 7: I'm not sure they're deep enough as a group, not 599 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 7: just on defense, to forward too. And if they're not, 600 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 7: that's going to put a lot of the rest and 601 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 7: Jonathan Quick and he's going to put a lot of 602 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 7: the rest of Lebrushy Sturt getting two goalies. 603 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 1: One more question about the penns Pierre, and that's going 604 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 1: back to Coven and the decision that was made there 605 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: to have him go down. Is that surprising to you. 606 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 7: No, not really. I'm looking at their lineup on the 607 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 7: left side and for the role that they want him 608 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 7: to play, they need him to touch the puck a lot, 609 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 7: and he's not going to play ahead of the call 610 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 7: he's not going to play out of Manta and know 611 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 7: that brings a speed element and a grid element that 612 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 7: Craven and probably doesn't have. So and he's not going 613 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,239 Speaker 7: to do Connor Dower's job. So I'm not surprised. And 614 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 7: like I said, they got something really good going on 615 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 7: in most grade right now. He needs to play. He 616 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 7: needs to play big mines and needs the puck and 617 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 7: the stick a lot and weak to dominate against his 618 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 7: peer group. 619 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 1: Ben's Ducks Tonight one five nine the Acts the Ducks, Pierre, 620 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: Where do you see them fall in the Pacific this year? 621 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 7: I think they could be one of the most improved 622 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 7: teams in the entire league. And so for them, it's 623 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 7: it's really and it talked to Joel about this yesterday. 624 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 7: It's really important for them to establish their identity in 625 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 7: terms of how they want to play. I know he 626 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 7: wants them to be better defensively than what they've been. 627 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 7: I don't know how deep they are in goal, and 628 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 7: that's gonna be one of the questions, whether it's the 629 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 7: stall of Morazac. That's something for down the road they're 630 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 7: gonna have to address. They didn't have more than enough 631 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 7: firepower and if they stay healthy in defense, the young 632 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 7: guys Lacombs, Elviger and Minschikov are really good. They got 633 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 7: and they got three guys down and the American hockey 634 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 7: is in San Diego, led by Ian Moore, who's a 635 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 7: Harvard kid. They got They got a bunch of guys 636 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 7: down there that a big too. So this is a 637 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 7: team that I is going to be vastly improved. I 638 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 7: just don't know if they're gonna have enough to make 639 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 7: it to the playoffs this year, but if they do, 640 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 7: they could be very, very dangerous. 641 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 1: Pierre, Penn State's a hockey school. Now, what do you 642 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: think of Muckennis so far? 643 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 7: He's been good on the power play, needs to be 644 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 7: better five on five. And that's not a knock on him. 645 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 7: The truth of the matter, Tim is, all the guys 646 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 7: that have come down from major junior, none of them 647 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 7: have dominated. It just shows you how great college hockey is. 648 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 7: And Penn State truly is a hockey school. It's Hockey 649 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 7: Valley for a reason. And I'm so happy for Guy Gabelski. 650 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 7: He's a fantastic person. I had the privilege of working 651 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 7: with him when I was a minor pro player. He 652 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 7: played for our team went out was in Ottawa. He 653 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 7: played in Prince Edward Island where an American Hockey League 654 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 7: team was, and he was a hard working, gritty guy. 655 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 7: I've always had a ton of respect for guy, and 656 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 7: I'm so happy for him and his family that they're 657 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 7: doing so well out in Penn State. 658 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 1: Well, the why Bush kid is the one that stole 659 00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: the show. He had four goals the other night against 660 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 1: and then well they lost that one, but then he 661 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 1: had another goal to night that they wont to split 662 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 1: the series, didn't. 663 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 7: He He did absolutely right. So he's ripping it up. 664 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 7: You're your spot on on that, you know. I think 665 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 7: the biggest thing going on in college hockey Michael Hayes 666 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 7: just had an amazing start to the year for the 667 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 7: University of Michigan is that if you get the right 668 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 7: early season matchups, you can ring up some big points. 669 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 7: And I think we're seeing that when you see DC 670 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 7: play Minnesota, you see you know, DC play Michigan State 671 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 7: and one of those when the top guys you're playing 672 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 7: one another, they're kind of shutting it down. We're gonna 673 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 7: start seeing more and more of that now, so you're 674 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 7: not gonna see these big, gaudy points, butts anymore. I 675 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 7: think once the league play starts and we're one week 676 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 7: away from most of the league starting. 677 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 2: Up, well, well, you know who. 678 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 1: El Spear actually had a big first weekend or two, 679 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 1: and Robert Morris is going to see them Thursday night 680 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: at the Colonials. I do play by play for them. 681 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 1: I'm not calling the games on the road, but they're 682 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 1: going the road to play Michigan. Didn't Horcoff have like 683 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 1: a five goal weekend open things up against Mercyhurst, the 684 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 1: Penguin's draft choice, Yeah. 685 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 8: I did. 686 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 7: He did a real good job and then he had 687 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 7: a tough weekend last weekend against Providence. And that's what 688 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 7: I'm talking about. You know all that. Roger McQueen is 689 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 7: a really good player. And it's interesting as we're talking 690 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 7: about Pittsburgh and Anaheim drafteds with horror copying drafted by 691 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 7: Pittsburgh and McQueen being drafted by Anaheim. McQueen has had 692 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 7: a tough start to the year point wise, but you 693 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,280 Speaker 7: watch Providence play, and I've watched him play four times now. 694 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 7: He's been really good. He's just not getting points. And 695 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 7: because it's as you know him, it's such a big 696 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 7: difference when you're playing against sixteen, seventeen and eighteen year 697 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 7: old guys versus playing nineteen, twenty, twenty one, twenty two 698 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 7: and twenty three year old guys. It's a big difference. 699 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 1: Pierre, appreciate it as always look forward to hearing you 700 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 1: whenever you're part of the broadcast here on one oh 701 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 1: five nine, The X depends by the way again to 702 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 1: night ten thirty against the Ducks. 703 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 2: We'll catch up soon, Pierre. Thanks, oh Tim, thank you 704 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 2: so much. 705 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 7: Love talking hockey with you. 706 00:34:58,200 --> 00:34:59,320 Speaker 2: Take care, Pierre Maguire. 707 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: Brought to us by I always say flagging and traffic control, 708 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 1: making traffic safe again, now hiring with four oh one 709 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:10,479 Speaker 1: K and benefits. 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