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Speaker 1: Rick Lewis is studio. What's up, Rick? How are you man?

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Speaker 2: Sorry, I just hit myself in the face with these headphones,

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Speaker 2: like I've never put on radio.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can understand how that happened. It's good to

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Speaker 1: be here.

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Speaker 3: Relate to hitting yourself in the face with your headphones.

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Speaker 2: I've hit myself in the face, but not with a

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Speaker 2: pair of headphones one time in the shower. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it was unbelievable. But anyway we'll.

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Speaker 1: Talk about it. Is that time you walked into.

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Speaker 2: The garage door and it was all caught on your

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Speaker 2: security camera.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, here, I didn't hear about this. I'm walking.

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Speaker 2: I'm walking the dog, who at that point was very

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Speaker 2: very young, intended to pull and so as the garage

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Speaker 2: door is going up, the dog is rooting like you

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Speaker 2: get outside, and I'm trying to kind of hang on,

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Speaker 2: and so as I as she went under the door,

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to duck and obviously didn't duck enough and

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Speaker 2: just knocked.

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Speaker 1: The crap.

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Speaker 2: I mean knocked the dog up, untended out of my head.

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Speaker 2: And we played it on the air. We must laugh

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Speaker 2: for like a day. The video is classic. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: I hope you still have that somewhere. Yeah, I'm not

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Speaker 2: sure where it would, but it's maybe I kept it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well though, I mean there's a lot of people

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Speaker 3: little you know, I don't want to show this to

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Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 1: But we yeah, we played it. We played it back

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Speaker 1: in the day. Very funny. Yeah, a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: Dave knows this. I was.

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Speaker 2: I grabbed the broom to kind of sweep my garage

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Speaker 2: floor out quickly, and I ran right into the corner

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Speaker 2: of a shelf in the garage, right above my eye,

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Speaker 2: and if I would have been about half an inch

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Speaker 2: one way or the other, probably poked my entire eye out.

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Speaker 1: God, it was that bad.

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Speaker 3: You know, those like we used to do it when

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Speaker 3: our kids were toddler and they like move around the

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Speaker 3: house and you know, like they cruise right and you

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Speaker 3: got to put rubber on all these sharp end I

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Speaker 3: feel like we need to come to your house and

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Speaker 3: start putting like the rubber edges on everything.

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Speaker 1: I just listen, you need your eyes.

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Speaker 2: I'm just yeah, I know were I might even have

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Speaker 2: a scar from that. This this isn't going away as

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Speaker 2: fast as I thought it would. Yeah, but well you

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Speaker 2: don't heal.

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Speaker 1: You don't heal.

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Speaker 2: Fast a certain age, you know, you don't heal as fasting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, oh yeah, wow Yeah that's good. So that

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Speaker 1: to look forward to for sure.

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Speaker 2: Wow, it be a little tougher, like like when you

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Speaker 2: wake up. I can just imagine. I mean, do you

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Speaker 1: Absolutely ready to attack? No? No, not anymore.

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Speaker 2: Do you get out of bed? Where can I get

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Speaker 2: out of bed? I mean separately, but we get out

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Speaker 2: of bed. We get out of bed in stages okay, yeah, stages, stages.

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Speaker 2: So you got one foot down the ground, then the

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Speaker 2: other foot. Okay, then you sit there for just a

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Speaker 2: little bit. Yeah, say like, you know, I feel my toes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, h fashion idea.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's a variety of things you have to

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Speaker 2: deal with, but we get out of the bed in stages.

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Speaker 1: Okay. Well that's good to know.

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Speaker 3: That's good to know. I I most of the time,

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Speaker 3: I don't. I haven't thought about it. It's like I'm

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Speaker 3: not at a point in my life where tomorrow, yeah,

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Speaker 3: well now I'm going to forever forever.

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Speaker 2: I will be like your wife will say, Ryan, what

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Speaker 2: what are you doing? Are you okay sitting there? Why

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Speaker 1: What was that noise you made when you got up?

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Speaker 4: Why did you groan so loud? Yeah, well, we have

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Speaker 4: a lot to get to you over the course of

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Speaker 4: the show. Certainly I want to talk a little bit

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Speaker 4: about the Roncos and what they're doing here in the postseason.

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Speaker 4: I was thinking a lot more because there's a lot

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Speaker 4: more coverage about John Harbaugh firing today, and you're the one.

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Speaker 1: There's several fastes we didn't get to yesterday, but one

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Speaker 3: That suddenly becomes the very clear most attractive job, the

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Speaker 3: Baltimore one, And you wonder, you know, I guess Clint

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Speaker 3: Kubiak's art right now is the only guy that they've announced.

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Speaker 3: But if you're vance Joseph, do you not try to

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Speaker 3: position yourself a little bit if you can, if you

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Speaker 3: feel like you're one of the better candidates in this cycle?

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Speaker 3: I mean that I'd be thrilled if I'm vanced Joseph

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Speaker 3: to be considered for that job for Baltimore. Yes, well,

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think, and then I guess who are

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Speaker 2: I think the Ravens, I think the Ravens are positioned.

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Speaker 2: Of the jobs currently available to me, they probably bounced

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Speaker 2: to the top of the top of the row. You've

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Speaker 2: got Lamar. I don't think Lamar is even thirty yet

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Speaker 2: twenty nine today, Oh, happy birthday, Lamar. And I mean

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Speaker 2: it's two time MVP that I would think would want

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Speaker 2: to bounce back from from this season. Right, he had

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Speaker 2: a number of injuries and from those that really watched

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Speaker 2: Baltimore closely, he just had some games where he didn't

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Speaker 2: look like himself. I don't know if he was injured.

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Speaker 2: I thought he played really good in what turned out

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Speaker 2: to be their last game of the season. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: I would think I would think that that job would

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Speaker 2: be enticing. They have taken a step or two back defensively.

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Speaker 2: I think the sort of identity of that team for

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Speaker 2: the longest of time has been on defense. You had

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Speaker 2: a hard time dealing with them. That was not the

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Speaker 2: case this year was not.

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Speaker 3: I also got to thinking rick about moving on from coaches,

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Speaker 3: even great coaches, and when the appropriate timing for that

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Speaker 3: is it's always a weird deal, right when you say, hey,

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Speaker 3: they went to Mike McDonald and we're like, wow, you're

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Speaker 3: moving on. This is an end of an era kind

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Speaker 3: of thing. Well, this is eighteen years with the Ravens.

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Speaker 3: John Harbaugh is going to have a job whenever he

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Speaker 3: wants one. There might even be some teams that will

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Speaker 3: blow out their current coaches for John Harbaugh. But everything today.

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Speaker 3: The messaging coming out of Baltimore was that he had

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Speaker 3: lost the locker room. Did you hear Lamar Jackson after

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Speaker 3: the game, Yes, when he was asked about John Harbaugh.

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Speaker 3: I actually had the audio here because I saw it

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Speaker 1: You play it.

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Speaker 2: When I saw that, and I like Lamar, But I

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Speaker 2: think when you're asked that question, you know exactly what

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Speaker 2: you're being asked exactly. You can say I love John,

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Speaker 2: and the question was something like do you you hope

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Speaker 1: Whatever?

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Speaker 2: You could always say, of course, and then you change

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Speaker 2: the discussion, but he chose not to. Lamar's a smart guy.

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Speaker 2: When I heard that, I'm like, okay, yes, so, and.

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Speaker 3: I kept the question in there just for that, for transparency,

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Speaker 3: kept the PR person saying all right, that's enough, let's

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Speaker 1: About future as well, do you do you want to

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Speaker 1: see John the Goods here? You? You asked me about

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Speaker 1: it next year?

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Speaker 2: Jamison, Okay, I'm so caught up in what's just happening tonight.

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Speaker 1: I can't. I can't focus on that right now. I

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Speaker 1: just told you, like he asked me, are you stunning?

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Speaker 1: I'm stunning right now, and I'm still on the process

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Speaker 1: what's going on? Like I know we lost, but but

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Speaker 3: Because if he was asked, hey do you want Derrick

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Speaker 1: Do you want to say Flowers back here next year?

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Speaker 3: Roquans literally anybody else, But he said, hey, do you

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Speaker 3: want John Harbaugh back next year? And he's like, hey,

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Speaker 3: I don't even I don't. I can't answer that, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Been better served saying of course and then moving on

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Speaker 2: and then if you want to go talk to the owner,

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Speaker 2: if you want to go talk to Seabashati and say

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Speaker 2: I just can't coexist with this guy, then go ahead.

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Speaker 1: But you have a laid him out publicly. I just don't.

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Speaker 2: I think there's a way to handle things in a

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it's a first class way, but

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Speaker 2: damn goodwell you did not want to bring back a

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Speaker 2: we just we just lost the last play of the game.

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Speaker 2: not I don't want that player back, and I just

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Speaker 1: Be out there.

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Speaker 2: And I was I was disappointed that Lamar said that

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Speaker 1: He just couldn't go there, which is very telling.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, there's a way you say things when you're

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Speaker 2: the face of the franchise. I think he mishandled that.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he regrets it or not, but

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Speaker 2: eighteen years is a long time. That's a heck of

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Speaker 2: a run. I think John Harbaugh's heck of a coach.

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Speaker 2: He can get a job tomorrow if you wanted to.

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Speaker 1: I find it curious though, and maybe, and I do

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Speaker 2: after the fact, after he's removed, now here comes the narrative.

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Speaker 2: You know, John John had lost the locker room. Where

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Speaker 2: do you think that's coming from? And it's coming from

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Speaker 2: the organization absolutely, And.

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Speaker 1: Because then.

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Speaker 2: If fans believe the story, then it mitigates any sort

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Speaker 2: of frustration or anger that some Ravens fans might have

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Speaker 2: with respect to why would you fire this guy?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: So again, that's that's how I don't begrudge in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: But that's how every single NFL team works.

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Speaker 3: I completely agree, And there's not really you know, I

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Speaker 3: understand also for the Ravens maybe there's some pressure.

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Speaker 1: Who knows.

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Speaker 3: But the reports today about him losing the locker room,

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Speaker 3: there wasn't a single I don't know if this is

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Speaker 3: completely true, but there wasn't a single player tweeting out

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Speaker 3: Gonna miss him. You know, usually you see that, you

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Speaker 3: see hey, this all We're stunned. Not a one.

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Speaker 3: So but then then you wonder alternative universe, Right, Tyler

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Speaker 1: Oh, they may not.

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Speaker 3: There's truth to that, Yeah, but it's also again kind

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Speaker 3: It's a couple of texts here, similar to Reeves with Elway.

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Speaker 1: But I think he's a brilliant, brilliant football coach. He

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Speaker 2: John and I can't say exactly forbade him what he said.

440
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Speaker 2: But John looked at Dan and said, I friggin hate

441
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Speaker 2: you more than any other friggin person in the friggin world.

442
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Speaker 1: Wow. Wow.

443
00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 2: And so they they continued to maybe share some some

444
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 2: intimacies and then and that was.

445
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Speaker 1: The end of that meeting. And then that was the

446
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Speaker 1: end of Mike.

447
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,920
Speaker 2: And so you can see where I thought Dan did

448
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 2: not handle Mike fairly.

449
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 1: Uh.

450
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Speaker 2: And I thought it was come uppins in January of

451
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 2: ninety nine when the Broncos played the Falcons and it

452
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,440
Speaker 2: was Mike Shanahan at the helm of the Broncos and

453
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,720
Speaker 2: it was Dan Reason at the helm of the Falcons.

454
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Speaker 1: It's just, you know, those things, those things.

455
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Speaker 2: It's not the only organization that has had, you know,

456
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,879
Speaker 2: temperamental folks in the locker room, and you get alpha dogs,

457
00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:00,720
Speaker 2: you get guys that are like uber competitive, and things

458
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,919
Speaker 2: like that are going to happen. But it was it

459
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 2: was a difficult time, do you know what, I know,

460
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 2: we're running out of time. What surprised me the most

461
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 2: about the way documentary. I was watching it with my

462
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:13,359
Speaker 2: brother in law sitting on the couch. It made me cry.

463
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 2: There was a point where I kind of turned my

464
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 2: head to wipe a tear off my cheeks so my

465
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:20,880
Speaker 2: brother in law wouldn't see me doing it, and he

466
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 2: was doing the exact same thing. And which part Remember

467
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Speaker 2: when John was talking about his dad died. Yeah, and

468
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:32,200
Speaker 2: then his sister sister, I had to wipe a couple

469
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Speaker 2: of tears. I was not expecting that watching the ol

470
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Speaker 2: Way documentary, It's really good.

471
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Speaker 1: He had a really.

472
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Speaker 2: Tough time because as the documentary talks about, I mean

473
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Speaker 2: they they passed relatively close to each other. Yes, so

474
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Speaker 2: it was I mean, it was a tough. It was

475
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Speaker 2: a tough deal.

476
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Speaker 1: We're rolling here on Wednesday. We'll get back to your

477
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Speaker 1: text here in just a moment.

478
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Speaker 2: On k.

479
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Speaker 3: I do want to ask you this because we were

480
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Speaker 3: talking about VJ and some of the jobs that he's

481
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 3: interviewing for. I think we have five right now that

482
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 3: he's reportedly going to be interviewing for. I hope that

483
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 3: he gets a chance to interview for the Ravens job too.

484
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 3: But somebody asked the question, and we didn't get into this,

485
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:19,959
Speaker 3: but should the Broncos try to keep the band together?

486
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,440
Speaker 3: Which is an interesting point right because they reference Steve

487
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 3: Spagnolo with the chiefs Now Steve is a little bit

488
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 3: of a different deal, and we've talked to.

489
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Speaker 1: Him a couple of times, so I had a chance

490
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Speaker 1: to interview.

491
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Speaker 3: Him because he chose to sort of stay as a

492
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Speaker 3: defensive coordinator with the Chiefs.

493
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Speaker 1: I don't know if he ever got really really close

494
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Speaker 1: to being a head coach again.

495
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Speaker 3: After it was a Detroit Louis I would say, Lewis,

496
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:41,440
Speaker 3: that's right, Saint Louis, that's right.

497
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Speaker 1: So he I don't know how close he ever got,

498
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Speaker 1: but he interviewed.

499
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Speaker 3: He always interviewed every single offseason, and then he always

500
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Speaker 3: just came back as a defensive coordinator. Is that on

501
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,399
Speaker 3: incumbent on ownership to make that play? You know, you

502
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:57,199
Speaker 3: don't want to deny people opportunities to advance, But at

503
00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 3: the same time, there's a monetary way you can maybe

504
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Speaker 3: sweeten the if it were to be to try to

505
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Speaker 3: keep him here.

506
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Speaker 2: I think that would depend on the honest conversation that

507
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 2: ownership has with in this case, Sean Payton. So Sean

508
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 2: I think would sit down and talk to Greg and

509
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,159
Speaker 2: let him know exactly what he thinks about some of

510
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 2: the some of the.

511
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Speaker 1: Interviews and with.

512
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Speaker 2: You know, you couldn't sweeten it enough if another NFL

513
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Speaker 2: team really wanted a head coach, Let's say fans Joseph

514
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:45,199
Speaker 2: because I mean, you're talking about ten million dollars. I

515
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,640
Speaker 2: think bare minimum. Now if a team really wants a guy,

516
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 2: and if there's competition for that coach, so ten million

517
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 2: dollars as opposed to whatever you're making to be the

518
00:25:55,640 --> 00:26:00,879
Speaker 2: defensive coordinator of the Broncos. Defensive coordinators, high end defensive

519
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:05,640
Speaker 2: coordinators are making between three and four and high.

520
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 1: End I mean Tue Kelly made six this last year.

521
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 1: That was such an aberration.

522
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 2: Yep, I know, I know of a defensive coordinator that's

523
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 2: making under two. Now we scoff, we'd all like to

524
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 2: be making just under two, but you know it is

525
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 2: the NFL. So I don't think. I don't think they could.

526
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 2: I think it would depend on if Sean like really

527
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:31,679
Speaker 2: really wanted to keep vance and you know, Greg, this

528
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,439
Speaker 2: is really important to do whatever you can do.

529
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. And there are other times.

530
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 2: Where coaches say, listen, I don't want to I don't

531
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 2: want to stey me a guy that has a chance

532
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,159
Speaker 2: to be a head coach for the second time. I

533
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 2: think VJ is prime to be a head coach this

534
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 2: year for somebody. He had one shot here, didn't go

535
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 2: so well, but I think he learned a lot. He's

536
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 2: certainly earned his chance to get a second shot. I

537
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,120
Speaker 2: do think pretty good chance he's going to be gone

538
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,879
Speaker 2: next year. What I would be more concerned about on

539
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,880
Speaker 2: the coaching staff, here's Davis Webb. I think he's been

540
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 2: essential as a quarterback coach, passing coordinator, whatever his title

541
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 2: is with Bo Nicks, and to continue to develop Bo,

542
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 2: your young quarterback. I think they need to do whatever

543
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,199
Speaker 2: they can to keep him. I guess the Raiders are

544
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 2: going to interview him as well.

545
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: That's right.

546
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 2: I don't see him necessarily getting that job, but I

547
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 2: could certainly see him getting an OC job somewhere.

548
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's been even been Albright has been saying for

549
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 3: a little while that wherever Vance goes, Davis Mills would

550
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 3: be an opportune oh offensive coordinator, like a promotion for him.

551
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 3: He would go with Vance Joseph as maybe be his coordinator. Right, So,

552
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know what do you think

553
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 3: about that? I mean, I agree that he's not necessarily

554
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 3: interviewing for a head coaching job. That seems like a

555
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 3: pretty big jump from quarterbacks coach.

556
00:27:56,240 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 2: But he's thirty one years old. I think, yes, thirty ish, yep,

557
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think it's a lock a Vance

558
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 2: got a head job that Davis Mills would be his OC.

559
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 2: I think I think maybe it's an option, and I

560
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 2: think Davis has done a really good job with Bo

561
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 2: from a fundamental standpoint. You know, people because of the

562
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 2: preseason game that he was at the Helm, he called

563
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 2: the offense and you know, the Broncos moved the ball

564
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 2: in a preseason game, and so not to minimize the

565
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 2: kind of coach that Davis Mills is or can become,

566
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 2: because they may mean he looks like he's he's on

567
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 2: the fast track, but you cannot look at a preseason

568
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 2: game and come to any definitive conclusion as to what

569
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 2: kind of play caller or play designer or anything this

570
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 2: guy will be in the NFL based on that game.

571
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Speaker 3: I chuckle because of how many callers textures over, especially

572
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 3: around that time preseason, the beginning of the season, and

573
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 3: when they lost a couple of games that would call

574
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 3: in and be like, you know, why are we not

575
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 3: giving Davis Mills a chance to be the sequencer here, like,

576
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 3: what do we We got a guy that was amazing

577
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 3: in the preseason, but to your point, a little bit

578
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 3: of a different deal.

579
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think, listen, I think Davis is a

580
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 2: really smart, offensive guy.

581
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: He played in the league.

582
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 2: He's not that far removed from playing, so he's got

583
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 2: the ability to sort of identify the issues that he

584
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 2: knows players encounter because he not long ago was a player.

585
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 3: Oh, Davis, web by the way said Mills. You said Mills,

586
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 3: and I followed my fault. Good Lord, definitely my fault.

587
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 2: No, well, listen, I didn't think I said Mills because

588
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 2: I started the conference, but I did.

589
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 1: You did? You did? Maybe I did?

590
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Davis Web No, I think I think Davis

591
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 2: is going to be a good coach in this league

592
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 2: for a long time. But I mean, I don't think

593
00:29:58,240 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 2: he's going to be a head coach to this cycle.

594
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 2: And I'm not sure he would leave. I'm not sure

595
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 2: he's going to wind up leaving the position he's in.

596
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 2: But Dave, how much of a buffer do you think

597
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 2: he is for between Peyton and bo I think it depends, honestly,

598
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 2: I think it depends on the personality a of the

599
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 2: buffer and be the personality of the head coach.

600
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 1: In the quarterback.

601
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 2: Now, I think you have two guys in the head

602
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 2: coach and the quarterback here, even though the quarterback is young.

603
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 2: The quarterback has a fiery, you know, element to his DNA,

604
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 2: which I like. I think Sean is smart enough and

605
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 2: I think Sean certainly has it. And Sean has a

606
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 2: sarcastic sort of element to his DNA that I think

607
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 2: at times can irritate the crap out of players, and

608
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 2: I think I think he would acknowledge that, and that's

609
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 2: at times what he wants.

610
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 1: But I think Sean is smart enough to.

611
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 2: Appreciate the handful minus maybe a couple of times that

612
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 2: bo has fired back at him.

613
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: Because as long as you do it in the right way.

614
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 2: And you move on from it, that doesn't have to

615
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 2: be a negative thing.

616
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: It's not necessarily a bad thing.

617
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 2: There aren't many players that can do it, however, that

618
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 2: are not the quarterback. And I would think Davis Webbing

619
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 2: and Boa about the same age, and that he could

620
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 2: talk to Bow in a different way. You know, if

621
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 2: Sean Payton's whatever Sean Payton's doing, he could sit them

622
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 2: down and go, hey, listen, man, I know how you're feeling.

623
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: This is how it is, just kind of do this

624
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: or do that.

625
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 2: Sure, I think he would be a really valuable asset,

626
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 2: and he also would help bo I think, move past

627
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 2: things that either were said or done that just irritates you.

628
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: Yes, as a player.

629
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 2: You're going to have coaches sometimes get on your ass

630
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 2: and practice and you know you're going to look back

631
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 2: and say to yourself, who.

632
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 1: Are you talking to? I mean really, I mean you're

633
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: gonna be pissed about it in practice.

634
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 2: Now, position players, I mean, they have receiver coaches and stuff,

635
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 2: and the receiver coach can sometimes help mitigate that as well.

636
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 2: But the relationship between the quarterback and the head coach

637
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 2: the play caller is is much different. The quarterback has

638
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 2: street cred where he can bark a little bit more

639
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 2: on the sideline or whatever, and as long as he

640
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 2: does it the right way and it doesn't linger, then

641
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 2: it's okay. You guys, yea more than one times.

642
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 3: Called the Mills no I was doing that is definitely

643
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 3: that is definitely on us.

644
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: We're gonna hear us some highlights.

645
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 3: You guys, have you heard the the Raiders game winning

646
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 3: field goal call? Yet it's No, it's phenomenal. I mean

647
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 3: they won three games, right, they're the first. First of all,

648
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 3: just for fun because we we'll hear highlights later on.

649
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 3: But I've been wanting to play this for you for

650
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 3: a while. So this was the Daniel Carlson sixty yard

651
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 3: field goal to beat the Chiefs. You're ready for this. Yes,

652
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 3: it's as if they won the Super Bowl.

653
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 1: Not kidding. Here we go for the win. Cole puts

654
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: it down.

655
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 5: The kick is on its way, so say second to

656
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 5: go the lads.

657
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 1: I love that about it. Daniel Daniel, Jeremiah No Daniels,

658
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: the Chargers. That's Jason Horowitz, Jason Morrison. You know what

659
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 1: I say, Good for them.

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Speaker 2: You got to you gotta keep the energy, man, even

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Speaker 2: even when the team you are broadcasting UH is having

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Speaker 2: one of air quotes those seasons. I mean, you can't,

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Speaker 2: you know, you can't just say kick on this way

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Speaker 2: and it's good.

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Speaker 1: Good. So they win three games instead of two, I

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Speaker 1: mean you can't. You can't do that, you know, And

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Speaker 1: we got the first overall. Yeah that's good.

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Speaker 2: Well, No, we went through, you know, a pretty rough

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Speaker 2: stretch with the Broncos, UH, And you know you have

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Speaker 2: to be consistently on your game, and Dave is right,

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Speaker 2: and and Dave is one of the best in the

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Speaker 2: business doing that. So Raiders get the number one pick. Yes,

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Speaker 2: So I mean maybe that's they were celebrating. The season's over,

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Speaker 2: We're gonna have the number one pick. We're gonna do

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Speaker 2: a total rebuilt.

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Speaker 3: I certainly have the same mindset that you just mentioned, Dave,

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Speaker 3: when you're trying to put yourself in the situation. Of

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Speaker 3: course I don't do play by it, but just put

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Speaker 3: yourself in the situation as a fan. Yeah, living through

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Speaker 3: a season where you win three games and it's a

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Speaker 3: final game of the year, You're playing in front of

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Speaker 3: your home crowd, and yeah, the Chiefs are not playing

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Speaker 3: for anything. It's not like you beat Patrick Mahomes as

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Speaker 3: the Raiders, Right, It's not like one of those games

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Speaker 3: were like, but.

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Speaker 2: Ten years from now, hey, he will have been part

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Speaker 2: of it.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: I think the Chiefs that year were like, I don't know,

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Speaker 2: fifteen to one. I think that might have been the

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Speaker 2: only game they lost to us. On the last play

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Speaker 2: of the game, I can't remember.

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Speaker 1: And it sounded a little something like.

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Speaker 5: This for the win, Paul puts it down, the kick

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Speaker 5: is on its way. Sixteen second to go.

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Speaker 2: Laders have a lead, and the Raiders have a lead,

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Speaker 2: I mean alone, insinuated that he hadn't seen that many

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Speaker 2: times this year.

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Speaker 1: Kirk Morrison, who's doing color. Kirk was a good player

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Speaker 1: for the Raiders for a long time. Yes.

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Speaker 2: Uh, and it sounds like somebody has snuck. I want

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Speaker 2: to play his party and listen to the color and wheel.

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Speaker 2: It sounds like somebody had crawled under his seat with

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Speaker 2: a big lighter and put it right under where his.

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Speaker 1: Yuck crack is. Listen, listen to Kirk for the win.

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Speaker 5: Paul puts it down, the kick is on its way.

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Speaker 1: Seconds lady. Good for them. That's awesome. Good for them, man, tremendous.

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Speaker 3: As soon as I heard that on Sunday night, I

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Speaker 3: was like, oh my god. And then again for you

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Speaker 3: guys who call the games, to be in the midst

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Speaker 3: of if you were in a three win season.

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Speaker 2: Hey, the first year I broadcast moroncos football, the previous

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Speaker 2: year they had gone to the Super Bowl and that

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Speaker 2: didn't turn out well. That first year I broadcast, they

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Speaker 2: lost eleven of the sixteen games.

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Speaker 1: As you were, the color analysts.

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Speaker 2: Yeah time, Okay, five and eleven was that the year

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Speaker 2: g Man went on the billboard?

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Speaker 1: I think the billboard season.

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Speaker 2: Well was that nineteen ninety because that's my first year. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that was ninety Wow. Yeah, I mean it was not

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Speaker 2: it was not all. It was not a good year. No,

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Speaker 2: But then I'm thinking I just got here and you

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Speaker 2: guys were in the Super Bowl last year, and now

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Speaker 2: it's this.

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Speaker 1: What are we doing around?

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Speaker 2: But as the next year they went to the AFC

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Speaker 2: Championship as your first time play by play, they won

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. Second year they won the Super bost

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Speaker 2: time play by play, they got beat by Jacksonville. Oh

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Speaker 2: you were doing it game that year. Then the next

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Speaker 2: year full time. The next two years they go to

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. Then Minisaur seems like, well, this is

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Speaker 2: going to happen a lot every year, and then it

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Speaker 2: didn't

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Speaker 1: And then it didn't