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Speaker 1: I bet he's seen it like four times. Have you

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Speaker 2: I have seen it. I enjoyed it, but it's not

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Speaker 1: We have to ask then, do you have something jump

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Speaker 2: Oh? My goodness, I mean Mighty Ducks series.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, I can see it.

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Speaker 3: You know what's weird about that.

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Speaker 1: I'd always heard that the one of the arenas that

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Speaker 1: How many arenas around here did they film it in?

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Speaker 1: And Adam, do you remember like that being a big

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's a big deal for sure. And then yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean just those childhood movies, I feel like you did.

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Speaker 2: You don't get any better, you know, I now with

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Speaker 4: Yeah, seem to think of how influential movies are. Right,

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Speaker 1: And listen, I'm not even gonna I'm not gonna go

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Speaker 3: Oh boy, and look where you are now. You've said

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Speaker 3: All right, there's my terrible, terrible transition. Adam.

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Speaker 4: Watching the tape back of Last Week, Man, you were

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I think I think the reason probably why I

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Speaker 2: and so, you know, had a pretty good idea of

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Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting because I heard you bring that

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Speaker 2: I I think that there should be full time referees.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the NFL has billions and billions of dollars.

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Speaker 3: Oh, the aggregators are going to love that. Sound. It's

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Speaker 3: a hot take, Adam Zalen.

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Speaker 1: It is a hot take, but I'm glad you said it,

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Speaker 4: That's the same thing we've talked about with like the

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Speaker 3: We got to have everything lined up. That's why.

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Speaker 4: Hell, for god's sakes, even let's not have wires take

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of money on the line.

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Speaker 2: We actually streak at cameras. We in Carolina, we weren't

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's pretty nuts.

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Speaker 4: Hey back to the actual game though, So you know, again,

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Speaker 4: Justin's getting a little frustrated, but it's not. You just

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think any any quarterback or any athlete like,

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Speaker 2: you put the prep in, you've done, You've made all

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Speaker 1: Adam, one more thing back to last week's game, and

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Speaker 1: let you go. But I wonder I just had this

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Speaker 2: Yeah, normally, normally I get the text message from my

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Speaker 4: Wow, that just rage raged quit. That's that's pretty good

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Speaker 4: a bunch of eight year olds. Troy, that's fantastic, know

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Speaker 4: what it is.

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Speaker 1: But I know Meat Sas has done in multiple times.

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Speaker 3: I gotta believe he had He's rage Queen Vegas right now,

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Speaker 3: all right.

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Speaker 4: A couple of final things for Adam feeling, like Chris

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Speaker 4: at noonon you guys saw them in week one. Adam,

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Speaker 4: remind me how many weeks had you been here before

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Speaker 3: When did you get here? When did you get back?

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Speaker 2: I got like about a week before a week one?

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Speaker 2: Well? At that time, for an offensive player, you didn't

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Speaker 2: there forever, so you're kind of watching New Orleans tape

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Speaker 2: a coordinator that's very aggressive and we've seen a lot

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Speaker 2: of here in Minnesota. So yeah, well we'll get his

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Speaker 2: best effort as a play caller. I know, you know,

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Speaker 2: So we're kind of obviously getting prepared for that.

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Speaker 4: Adam, thanks for the the time. Is always good luck

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Speaker 4: on Sunday and we'll talk to you next week.

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Speaker 2: All right, Thanks guys, talking man.

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Speaker 1: Thanks to the friends, our friends at the Loan Foundation

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