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<v Speaker 3>Here is. If today's show is an eighties band, it

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<v Speaker 3>would be the Human League.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't don't you want.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't I a working as a witch?

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<v Speaker 3>Listen till.

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<v Speaker 2>That much is true. Petros and Money Am five seventy

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<v Speaker 2>are your home with the back to back World Series

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<v Speaker 2>champion Los Angeles Dodgers. If you are a broadcaster affiliated

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<v Speaker 2>with that production, unless you were Tim Cats, you were

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<v Speaker 2>a big winner today at the Southern California Sports Broadcasters

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<v Speaker 2>Award luncheon. Joe Davis winner, Steven Nelson winner Joe Davis.

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<v Speaker 3>Had two guys waiting outside to get his autograph and

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<v Speaker 3>he never showed.

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<v Speaker 2>Orl Hrscheizer winner winner not there, David Vasse winner. Only

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<v Speaker 2>one guy affiliated with the Dodgers. Two guys affiliated with

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<v Speaker 2>the Dodge.

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<v Speaker 3>Couple of hard luck vagabonds, Right is that right? Leaving

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<v Speaker 3>with their Bin'll.

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<v Speaker 2>You get all dressed up and your best Sunday suit.

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<v Speaker 3>With a little patch on the arm. Magabon. Gotta call

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<v Speaker 3>the Rhode Island Rhode Island State tonight to make ends meet.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>Gotta patch that suit up, you know, if I don't

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<v Speaker 2>show up like a vagabond with a patch on the elbow.

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<v Speaker 3>I was working as a waitress in a hotel bar,

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<v Speaker 3>that much is true. I was turning tricks off the

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<v Speaker 3>corner right by lakeside. See the valet wouldn't even take

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<v Speaker 3>the car.

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<v Speaker 2>I was screwed. Yeah, just park it right over there,

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<v Speaker 2>scream me number nominee Dodge your time A finalist, which

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<v Speaker 2>was the award winner, coming up tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>At seven o'clock. David Vassay, we'll be here. We'll have

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<v Speaker 3>your dad and a live guy. Fun fact. Our normal

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<v Speaker 3>accoutrement headed towards that time.

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<v Speaker 2>I said I needed a title sponsor tomorrow, and he said,

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<v Speaker 2>you got it. Harvey Heide's speech was great, South's still going.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, it's still going. He don't even ask me

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<v Speaker 2>how much. You just said absolutely, alien fresh.

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<v Speaker 3>Beef, Jurkey, clippers, wizards tomorrow. So we'll go from three

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<v Speaker 3>to six thirty like we did yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, when we first started this, we did not

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<v Speaker 2>include the surrounding areas. But no we do, Ventura, Bakersfield,

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<v Speaker 2>North County.

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<v Speaker 3>It is time brought to you by Concordia Universe Masters

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<v Speaker 3>and Come Behind program. It's a fact.

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<v Speaker 2>What's a fact?

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<v Speaker 3>Coach knows what he's doing. You should listen to him,

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<v Speaker 3>especially if he went to the Masters in Coaching program

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<v Speaker 3>at Concordia University CUI dot EEDU slash coaching.

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<v Speaker 2>It's funny effect.

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<v Speaker 3>It's yeah, we're three fun fact.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll let that one slide.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, coach, heck coach, coach hide the word. And I said, no,

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<v Speaker 3>I told your parents.

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<v Speaker 2>That I was going to let them know if you

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<v Speaker 2>were making yourself a better individual graduating with a degree,

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<v Speaker 2>you skipped study hall, you slacked at practice today and

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<v Speaker 2>now I'm calling your mother and you will tell her

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<v Speaker 2>that while standing right there. And because I did that,

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<v Speaker 2>he knew that I loved him. Your final hour.

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<v Speaker 3>Fun fact, I was working as a waitress.

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<v Speaker 2>The word broadcasting, oh is from the mid eighteenth century

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<v Speaker 2>agricultural community. It is a term that means wide scattering

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<v Speaker 2>of seeds. It did not become a term related to

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<v Speaker 2>radio until the twentieth century, when the first radio broadcasts

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<v Speaker 2>were created. Like with broadcast sewing, radio broadcasting also involves

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<v Speaker 2>a large scattering of radio waves, songs, and entertainment, hence

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<v Speaker 2>applying that farming agricultural term to the world of radio.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't see Sam Boney there. He was banging the

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<v Speaker 2>drum slowly, banging the drums lowly.

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<v Speaker 3>It's time for quick hits. F you kates quick hits.

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<v Speaker 1>I make it quick, y'all.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The Chargers have parted ways with Greg Roman. Matt's lament

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<v Speaker 2>was last hour. I thought I better get f and

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<v Speaker 2>fired Man.

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<v Speaker 3>Roman was hired by Harbaugh when he arrived in LA

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<v Speaker 3>I had of the twenty twenty fourth season.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember they had the dual RVs down in Huntington Beach,

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<v Speaker 2>one right next to each other and.

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<v Speaker 3>Now he blew up the other guy's RV also worked.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how he informed that he was you know, my

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<v Speaker 2>RV was right here?

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<v Speaker 3>Have we blown up an RV down there by the water?

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<v Speaker 3>Harball'sc with the Niners from twenty eleven to twenty fourteen.

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<v Speaker 3>So Roman is the only OC Harbaugh has worked with

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<v Speaker 3>in the NFL. Longtime partnership has come to an end,

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<v Speaker 3>and Jim will now have to search for his replacement.

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<v Speaker 2>I could see Mike McDaniel. I feel like him and

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<v Speaker 2>coach Harve's are a little tiny guy. Yeah, very similar

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<v Speaker 2>in the way they approach football. I just it's almost

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<v Speaker 2>like looking in a mirror, you know when you see

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<v Speaker 2>those guys, little guy with the capri pants and the.

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<v Speaker 3>Drug dealer thing. Oh not the guy that was a Denver.

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<v Speaker 2>No, the head coach of Miami.

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<v Speaker 3>That guy.

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<v Speaker 2>That guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know, I don't see what uh. For the

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<v Speaker 3>fourth time since nineteen sixty nine, the Steelers got to

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<v Speaker 3>look for a new coach and Chuck Knowle is not available.

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<v Speaker 3>Long time go do you know? Mike Tomlin has agreed

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<v Speaker 3>to step down hi his post in Pittsburgh, signaling an

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<v Speaker 3>end of a nineteen year run in the Iron City

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<v Speaker 3>as the longest tenured coach in the league. Some have

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<v Speaker 3>gotten a hold of Dave Damashack Shipwrecked the Big Show.

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<v Speaker 3>They are talking, oh shipwreck and Damasheta. It's the same guy.

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<v Speaker 3>The Rams are getting ready for their divisional round matchup

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<v Speaker 3>against the Bears on Sunday. Yeah there is that's in Chicago.

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<v Speaker 3>The Rams are a three and a half point road favorite.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, they were four and a half points now, there's

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<v Speaker 2>some money coming in on the Bears. It's top three

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<v Speaker 2>and a half.

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<v Speaker 3>Kl have been the Bears, Matt. The Lakers are in

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<v Speaker 3>a tailspin. Tell you hate to see it. I think

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<v Speaker 3>the Lakers can win it.

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<v Speaker 2>Congratulations to Steve Hartman and duck it into the Southern

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<v Speaker 2>California Sports Broadcasters Hall of Fame. Next year, when they

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<v Speaker 2>print the program on pink colored construction paper, the pixelated

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<v Speaker 2>image of him next to Mason and Ireland will look

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<v Speaker 2>even better than did this year. You know, no wonder

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<v Speaker 2>we'd never you invite us, you call us, you hound us,

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<v Speaker 2>and you ask us to come. This is what you

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<v Speaker 2>get this Lucas hurt.

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<v Speaker 3>He had his left thigh wrapped in eyes. After the game,

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<v Speaker 3>he said he abrogated, aggravated something in his thigh or

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<v Speaker 3>groin areas aggravated, the aggregation between the thigh and the bruin.

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<v Speaker 3>The Lakers are back at it tonight. They host the

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<v Speaker 3>Atlanta Hawks.

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<v Speaker 2>No rest for the weary.

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<v Speaker 3>The Hawks come screeching in six and oh on the

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<v Speaker 3>West Coast this year, and they're tired of the lies

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<v Speaker 3>the Lakers. Lebron's bringing them down.

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<v Speaker 2>Lebron's bringing them down. The vandalorian is bringing them down.

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<v Speaker 2>Why do you call him that?

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<v Speaker 3>It's all because of Lebron. This team was fine before

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<v Speaker 3>Lebron showed up, and then everybody got ruined. And then

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<v Speaker 3>the stupid podcast started with Rich Paul and he started

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<v Speaker 3>planting the various seeds about guys that people love, like

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<v Speaker 3>Austin Reeves. Oh yeah, that's bad.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, guess what game Lebron's gonna have a patch on

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<v Speaker 2>his uniform, a patch that's a Lebron patch. I'm wearing

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<v Speaker 2>a patch every single game for the remainder of the season.

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<v Speaker 2>Adam to honor me. Excuse me, yeah me, It's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>honor me. And then that patch is gonna come off

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm gonna send it to a trading card company,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're gonna put it in a pack. And when

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<v Speaker 2>you break packs or crack packs or whatever they call it,

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<v Speaker 2>someone's gonna get lucky and they're gonna get my patch.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what I'm doing for the remainder of the

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<v Speaker 2>season is I have sabotaged. I'm a saboteur. Insufferable. The

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<v Speaker 2>Clippers are sixteen and twenty three. They're red hot though.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you saw Carlo today, Oh the bounce in his step.

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<v Speaker 2>Glasses are all fogged up, see the bounce in his steps.

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<v Speaker 2>They've won three in a row, ten in the last twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>They house the Whizow. Yeah, that's a remix on that

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<v Speaker 2>horn Man and Matt.

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<v Speaker 3>The National Championship Game is set. Miami's taking on Indiana

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<v Speaker 3>a week from tonight. Loo's your seven and a half

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<v Speaker 3>point fame?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you see the Elmo video? Michael Irvin.

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<v Speaker 3>The rabbit, that's yeah, and then eventually commits suicide.

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<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately. Let's swing a clip that though swinging from the fan.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so good, blowing co friend's blowing coke off his face.

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<v Speaker 2>Matt the portal closest today. It does three days for

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<v Speaker 2>players to find a home, schools to bring in guys.

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<v Speaker 3>He doesn't close today closest Friday, my.

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<v Speaker 2>Bad, you know Friday today whatever. UCLA has been incredibly

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<v Speaker 2>active in flux of money. Ben Boltch shared earlier today

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<v Speaker 2>our guest from yesterday, seventeen point three million dollar check

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<v Speaker 2>was stroked by longtime donor Lawrence Larry Lane.

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<v Speaker 3>The old rugby player who could forget.

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<v Speaker 2>It'll benefit the UCLA football and men's basketball programs. He

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<v Speaker 2>is a former UCLA rugby player rugby player from the

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen seventies. The football team's gonna get nine point six million,

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<v Speaker 2>the men's basketball program seven point seven million. In the

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<v Speaker 2>truncket check of Lane's forty million.

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<v Speaker 3>What about the Valley of the Sun. Isn't this truck

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<v Speaker 3>at check for UD?

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<v Speaker 2>You ain't got no rugby player like Lawrence Larry Lane

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<v Speaker 2>stroking checks. I played football with a guy named Lawrence Larry.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a hell of a name, Lawrence. I love you, Lawrence,

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<v Speaker 2>call me Larry. We called him al l. The donation

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<v Speaker 2>to the athletic department is believed to be the biggest

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<v Speaker 2>in more than a decade. So Bob Chesney mc cronin

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<v Speaker 2>head coaches that inspire financial investment and We're proud to

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<v Speaker 2>call them our friends.

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<v Speaker 3>The Mick. The FBS coaches voted today unanimously to expand

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<v Speaker 3>the eligibility for red shirt years from four games to nine.

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<v Speaker 2>College went shambless to come back. I've red shirted ten

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<v Speaker 2>years in a row. How dare you not get? How

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<v Speaker 2>was a thousand yard rusher and then I immediately took

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<v Speaker 2>my red shirt? I mean, uh, nine recommendation. It still

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<v Speaker 2>has to pass. Now nine games the one Committee, Trinidad,

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna figure out how to get you back to Oxford.

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<v Speaker 2>Hail or high water, young man. You deserve that seventh year.

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<v Speaker 2>You deserve it, Matt. Free agency continues. Saint Louis Cardinals

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<v Speaker 2>finally did it something David vass Say had shared as

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<v Speaker 2>a possibility with us for years. Nolan Aeronado is out.

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<v Speaker 2>He has been traded to the Diamondbacks in exchange for

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<v Speaker 2>a minor league pitcher. The Cardinals will pick up thirty

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<v Speaker 2>one million of the remaining forty two million owed to Aeronado,

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<v Speaker 2>and free agency watch continues for Cody Bellinger and Kyle Tucker.

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<v Speaker 2>David Vesse'll be along at seven pm to get you

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<v Speaker 2>all that great information and.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll be right back with Tom to LESCo, Stay with

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<v Speaker 2>California Toyoa Dealers Celebrity Hotline. A man that knows what

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<v Speaker 2>it's like to pull the trigger and have the trigger

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<v Speaker 2>pulled in the crazy world of the NFL.

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<v Speaker 3>Chrisy Wall in the NFL, riding the ups and downs,

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<v Speaker 3>the hills and gullies on the train track. It is

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<v Speaker 3>Tom Telesco, Serious XM now having a good time jumping

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<v Speaker 3>up in the media. One day he may jump back

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<v Speaker 3>in the fire, for he is a proven winner and

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<v Speaker 3>a man that knows what he's doing when it comes

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<v Speaker 3>to building a roster. But we have a lot to discuss,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's an old friend, the great Tom to Leusco

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<v Speaker 3>tortoes with Tom on a Tuesday once again on the

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<v Speaker 3>Petrols and Money Show. What's cracking Tom? How are you?

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<v Speaker 4>I love that intro that I've pulled the trigger. I've

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<v Speaker 4>also had the trigger pulled on me. That was pretty good.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know with strikes and gunns, you know, some

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<v Speaker 3>day you eat the bear and some day the bear

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<v Speaker 3>eats you. And speaking of that, so they say, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>everybody says.

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<v Speaker 2>That some day you have bear for dinner, some days

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<v Speaker 2>the bear has you for dinner.

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<v Speaker 3>Tell us Tom, how surprised were you by the Chargers

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<v Speaker 3>performance out in New England? Some people that I know

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<v Speaker 3>thought they matched up pretty well.

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<v Speaker 4>Turns out, oh, I was really surprised, and and obviously

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<v Speaker 4>they were. Through this whole year on offense, they've had

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<v Speaker 4>to deal with a lot of adversity. Like everybody knows.

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<v Speaker 4>You know that they lost both their starting tackles, but

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<v Speaker 4>they just weren't starting tackles. They're all pro football type tackles. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>what I probably missed you know, I think having Omary

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<v Speaker 4>and Hampton out with injury, I think that affected him

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<v Speaker 4>a lot more than people talked about.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a big part of.

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<v Speaker 4>How they run that offense. But I went to the

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<v Speaker 4>point how Justin just didn't play well, and you know

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<v Speaker 4>it happens from time to time, doesn't have very often

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<v Speaker 4>with him. But looking at that game, I didn't think

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<v Speaker 4>Drake May played great either. I mean, Drake May took

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<v Speaker 4>five sacks at interception, he put two balls in the ground,

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<v Speaker 4>but he made a big throw to Hunter Henry, and

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<v Speaker 4>he just consistently took checkdowns. And there's a big difference

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<v Speaker 4>when May was checking it down to Remindre Stevenson and

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<v Speaker 4>Treviaon Henderson versus Justin checking it down to Tyger Fisk.

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<v Speaker 4>So just what they weren't going the same type of

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<v Speaker 4>easy throws, the same type of chunkyards on an easy throw.

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<v Speaker 4>So but I was a probably the defense played very

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<v Speaker 4>well like the head all year and offensively, it just

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't their day and it was it was hard to watch,

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<v Speaker 4>but that's the nature of the playoffs. So these games

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<v Speaker 4>they get bigger and bigger as you move, as you

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<v Speaker 4>move through and you know, whatever your weakness is it

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<v Speaker 4>tends to get magnified in the playoffs, and that's kind

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<v Speaker 4>of what happened to the Chargers.

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<v Speaker 2>How hard is it tom to try to figure out

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<v Speaker 2>the answers to those questions in game? You know, you

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<v Speaker 2>go into the half, it's six to three, and it

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<v Speaker 2>felt like the Patriots figured it out right. They kind of,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, got some easy buttons for Drake May, they

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<v Speaker 2>found some explosives, and it felt like the Chargers were

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<v Speaker 2>kind of trying to do the same things they were

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<v Speaker 2>doing in the first half. Is it just too hard

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<v Speaker 2>to get out of what you thought you were going

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to do if you're not able to

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<v Speaker 2>or what goes into trying to overcome some of those obstacles.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I mean typically even before you get into the game,

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<v Speaker 4>you have your game plan, but you also have some

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<v Speaker 4>different plans D, B, C and D depending on what

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<v Speaker 4>your opponent's going to do. And then once you're in game,

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<v Speaker 4>you know halftime that you guys know halftimes are short.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean it's a twelve minute halftime, and you know

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<v Speaker 4>a couple of things are just getting to the locker

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<v Speaker 4>room and getting back out again. So a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>the adjustments will happen in between series. I mean they

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<v Speaker 4>have they have the still photos or the video on

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<v Speaker 4>the sideline on the iPads, and they can make adjustments

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<v Speaker 4>in real time. But also the defense of making adjustments

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<v Speaker 4>the same time. So it's a it's a cat and

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<v Speaker 4>mouse game throughout the whole game, and it just seemed

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<v Speaker 4>like that the Chargers they just couldn't get in front

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<v Speaker 4>of it. And look, you know Greg, Greg Roman and

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<v Speaker 4>you full disclosure, he was a college teammate of mine

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<v Speaker 4>will we both started with the Carolina Panthers the same

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<v Speaker 4>year in nineteen ninety five. And his work ethic, attention

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<v Speaker 4>to detail is outstanding, it really is. I really I

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<v Speaker 4>gave a lot of credit for what he was able

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<v Speaker 4>to do this year with some of the issues that

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<v Speaker 4>had on offense. Justin had a tremendous year until the

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<v Speaker 4>last game. But such as life in the NFL, they

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<v Speaker 4>the emotions of the past game, you know, kind of

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<v Speaker 4>crop up and you move on.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, with that, as you know, kind of

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<v Speaker 2>a pretext for this question what do you make of what?

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<v Speaker 2>And he's a guy that you know, he was on

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<v Speaker 2>your team. Robert Splane what he said after the game that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you saw it, but he said

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<v Speaker 2>he was talking to some Charger players after and they

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<v Speaker 2>said they didn't know what the heck they were looking at,

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<v Speaker 2>that they couldn't figure the coverages out. Is that something

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<v Speaker 2>that sounds right to you? And if that's the case,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of what would go into that happening in a

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<v Speaker 2>game of that magnitude.

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<v Speaker 4>Honestly, it kind of seems like your typical postgame banter

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<v Speaker 4>that you know may have been taken a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>out of context.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I haven't been able to see the coaches copy yet

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<v Speaker 4>the All twenty two, so you know, on TV it's

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<v Speaker 4>hard to see the routes develop and see where if

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<v Speaker 4>there was separation, if there were players coming open. I

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<v Speaker 4>just know from their offense, I mean, running back to

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<v Speaker 4>average less than three ars per carry, and and for

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<v Speaker 4>what with the Charges have done this year and how

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<v Speaker 4>they run their offense, it's hard to get moving when

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<v Speaker 4>when you can't get anything going in the run game.

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<v Speaker 4>There were some clean pockets in the first half, but

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<v Speaker 4>you know, Justin is normally decisive, but it just didn't

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<v Speaker 4>seem like you had anywhere to get with the ball.

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<v Speaker 4>And then the second half, it just seemed like the

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<v Speaker 4>Patriots who didn't really I didn't think pressure well in

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<v Speaker 4>the first half of the second half. They kind of

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<v Speaker 4>saw blooding the water and they brought it from everywhere,

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<v Speaker 4>and maybe they brought some plittes that the charger had

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<v Speaker 4>not seen before at their opportune time, and you saw

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<v Speaker 4>the result.

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<v Speaker 3>The one and only Tom to leasco is our guest.

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<v Speaker 3>You were in Las Vegas, you had a great draft

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<v Speaker 3>in twenty twenty four, they've turned it over again at

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<v Speaker 3>head coach. What do they need? Do they need a

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<v Speaker 3>young guy? Did they need like an old angry guy

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<v Speaker 3>like Kubiak? Do they need like one of these offensive

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<v Speaker 3>guys that looks really quoft? You know, like, what what

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<v Speaker 3>do you think?

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<v Speaker 2>I like the hair?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm at Lafleur, Yeah, Lafloor, you know, yeah, quaft, offensive guy.

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<v Speaker 4>They just need some stability, that's the biggest thing. I

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<v Speaker 4>thought that's what Peeka was going to bring them last year.

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<v Speaker 4>But as you guys could see, like it just didn't

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<v Speaker 4>click this year, and I could see you hate to

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<v Speaker 4>keep making these moves.

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<v Speaker 3>The one and done so you don't want to see that.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think everyone can see it. Just didn't click

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<v Speaker 4>this year. So at this point, but they have the

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<v Speaker 4>first pick in the draft, they're going to take a quarterback,

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<v Speaker 4>so they're finally going to have a quarterback to build around,

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<v Speaker 4>which they haven't had really since Derek Carr. So they

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<v Speaker 4>have that piece and now it's just about getting some

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<v Speaker 4>stability at the top from the head coach. And it

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't matter if it's offense, defense or special teams to me,

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<v Speaker 4>because there are some really good resources there both stadium wise,

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<v Speaker 4>practice facility, incredible fan base, mean worldwide fan base, and

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<v Speaker 4>there's a lot of good people in the building. I

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<v Speaker 4>mean I know it firsthand because you're only as good

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<v Speaker 4>as the people you work with. So there's support staffs

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<v Speaker 4>with training and video and communications and equipment scouting. They're excellent.

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<v Speaker 4>Just have to find that stability at the top, and

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<v Speaker 4>I think they'll go through the I bet they'll be

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<v Speaker 4>much more in the same page this year they kind

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<v Speaker 4>of went through last year. I've been a first time GM.

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<v Speaker 4>Sometimes things are moving real fast and you feel like

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<v Speaker 4>you have to get a head coach hired as quickly

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<v Speaker 4>as possible because you need to get all the assistants hired,

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<v Speaker 4>and you feel like the seats are gonna fill. But

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<v Speaker 4>if you take your time, go through your process what

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<v Speaker 4>they're doing right now, you get the right person the

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<v Speaker 4>top and hopefully just have the stability there.

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<v Speaker 2>So you've you know, you know what it looks like

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<v Speaker 2>at the top of the draft when it's a quarterback

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<v Speaker 2>draft and it's Joe Burrow and Tua and Justin Herbert

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<v Speaker 2>or you know, some years it's Christian Ponder and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you make of this year they have the

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<v Speaker 2>number one pick. I know you haven't probably had a

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<v Speaker 2>chance to dig too deep into Fernando Mendoz or Dante

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<v Speaker 2>more if he decides to come out, But what do

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<v Speaker 2>you make of their options at that position? And what

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<v Speaker 2>kind of quarterback draft we have coming up here in

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<v Speaker 2>a couple months.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean it's light. I mean you basically mentioned

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<v Speaker 4>the two guys would be the top for me. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>Ty Simpson I think has some potential. I wouldn't see

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<v Speaker 4>him up there with those two guys yet, But yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean the quarterback position, if you need a quarterback,

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<v Speaker 4>that's why they get pushed up in the draft because

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<v Speaker 4>if you don't draft one, very rarely is the starter

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<v Speaker 4>come out and fregency that is a winning starter that

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<v Speaker 4>you can actually acquire, so you're an a half to draft them,

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<v Speaker 4>So yes, they do get a little bit pushed up.

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<v Speaker 4>I think Mendoza is definitely an NFL starter. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>as everyone saw, he looked great the other night, made

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<v Speaker 4>some just big time accuracy pinpoint throws and has all

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<v Speaker 4>the intelligibles you're looking for. And I think Dante Moore

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<v Speaker 4>is really talented. But you also saw the difference between

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<v Speaker 4>Mendoza being a three year starter essentially and Dante Moore

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<v Speaker 4>being a one year starter and being nineteen years old,

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<v Speaker 4>and he has an incredible skill, but you see that

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<v Speaker 4>you may need a little bit more time to develop.

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<v Speaker 4>So we'll see if he stays in school, if he

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<v Speaker 4>declares for the draft. But those guys are really, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>at the top of the draft, and then it's very

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<v Speaker 4>thin after that, so and there's gonna be more teams

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<v Speaker 4>that need quarterbacks, and they are actually quarterbacks available, so

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<v Speaker 4>after the first pick, you know the who the next

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<v Speaker 4>quarterback is. I would expect a lot of activity for

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<v Speaker 4>teams to try and trade up and get somebody more.

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<v Speaker 3>Aging like the Cheese and the Cheese It commercials for

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<v Speaker 3>Dante More. Our friend Tom tellasco joins us. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>the NFL as old, Jerry Glanville said, stood for not

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<v Speaker 3>for long, but for some guys, they're in the same

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<v Speaker 3>spot for a long time. You knew something about longevity

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<v Speaker 3>with the Chargers, Mike Tomlin Jim John Harbaugh, of course

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<v Speaker 3>now both available. Tomlin stepped down to after nineteen years.

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<v Speaker 3>Harball was in Baltimore for eighteen. How hard is it

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<v Speaker 3>for that guy to get a job somewhere else after

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<v Speaker 3>he's known something so stable for so long in a

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<v Speaker 3>league that's really not that way, No, not at all.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean really, for both of them, it's an end

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<v Speaker 4>of an era, and not just for Pittsburgh and for Baltimore,

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<v Speaker 4>but just for head coaching in general, because I don't

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<v Speaker 4>think we're going to ever see another head coach spend,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, nineteen eighteen straight years with the same team.

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<v Speaker 3>As good as Sean McVay is.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, at some point, you know you kind of

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<v Speaker 4>need a reset or recharge. The coaching is, I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>it's a high pressurized business. Even when you're winning at

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<v Speaker 4>a consistent level. You know, mc va could coach forever,

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<v Speaker 4>but the stay in nineteen years with one team the

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<v Speaker 4>way Tomlin did, I just think it's really hard to

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<v Speaker 4>do it. I don't think we're gonna see that ever again.

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<v Speaker 4>So but with those two guys went all the great

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<v Speaker 4>coaches with uh puting Andy Reid and McVeigh, Tomlin Harbaugh.

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<v Speaker 4>Like their teams, they always had an identity, and that's

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<v Speaker 4>the number one thing you have to establish. So we've

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<v Speaker 4>got two big time jobs open. You know, Pittsburgh obviously

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<v Speaker 4>that job doesn't come open very often. I'm kind of

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<v Speaker 4>curious what route they go. You know, Mike McCarthy is

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<v Speaker 4>mister Pittsburgh. I'd be really interesting guy there. And but

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<v Speaker 4>you know, even though they haven't done a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>head coach searches, they typically hire young assistants from other teams,

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<v Speaker 4>like I mean essentially just Chuck no, Bill Kawer and

0:24:53.440 --> 0:24:56.520
<v Speaker 4>Mike Tomlin. So all three of those guys were coordinators

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<v Speaker 4>and a younger coaches when they were with their prior teams.

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<v Speaker 4>So we'll see which direct they go. But having nine

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<v Speaker 4>spots right now in the NFL, it's just incredible to

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<v Speaker 4>have this many opening head coaching jobs available. Or see

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<v Speaker 4>what these play out.

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<v Speaker 2>Last thing for you, Tom, the Rams, they faced down

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<v Speaker 2>potential real ugly exit from the postseason, being a double

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<v Speaker 2>digit favorite and maybe losing to Carolina. Matthew Stafford Rallies

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<v Speaker 2>gets the win in your experience, like how I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to say valuable, but is there something to that

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<v Speaker 2>when in an early round you're able to kind of

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<v Speaker 2>overcome what looks to be an obstacle that really could

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<v Speaker 2>have crushed what looks to be a promising path for

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<v Speaker 2>them to get back to the super Bowl. And when

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<v Speaker 2>you look at who's left, kind of what do you

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<v Speaker 2>make of who's in front of them?

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<v Speaker 4>I totally saw that against Carolina. I mean that it

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<v Speaker 4>was a great environment in Carolina. It hadn't been in the

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<v Speaker 4>playoffs in a long time.

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<v Speaker 3>The stadium was loud.

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<v Speaker 4>Carolina really has done a lot with a little there.

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<v Speaker 4>Really impressed with Dave Canals and what he's done with

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<v Speaker 4>the Panthers. But just way you said, I really felt

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<v Speaker 4>like the Rams, having a veteran head coach, a veteran quarterback,

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<v Speaker 4>really well coached defense. They just handled the situation. That

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<v Speaker 4>handled it appropriately and it wasn't easy because they still

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<v Speaker 4>have that you know, that's special teams concerned. The margins

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<v Speaker 4>gets so thin in the playoffs and the farther advance

0:26:18.640 --> 0:26:21.800
<v Speaker 4>they get thinner and thinner. So but they overcame it.

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<v Speaker 4>And a lot of it's because of the quarterback and

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<v Speaker 4>the head coach. But I like their chances this year.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean not, you know, even taking Stafford on of it.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, they've got two running backs like a two

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<v Speaker 4>headed monster with White with Williams a Korum. I love

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<v Speaker 4>how they use Pooka Nakua in the running game, almost

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<v Speaker 4>like the Delaware wing t wing back, so they could

0:26:39.680 --> 0:26:41.439
<v Speaker 4>use them like that. And then obviously he's getting ten

0:26:41.480 --> 0:26:44.720
<v Speaker 4>eleven twelve balls a game, and between Devonte Adams and

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<v Speaker 4>then the two tight ends, they have a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>different ways to go on offense. And then I love

0:26:48.359 --> 0:26:51.920
<v Speaker 4>Chris Shula and what they're doing on defense. So to me,

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<v Speaker 4>they're they're they're definitely I have a chance to win

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<v Speaker 4>a championship with this team. But yeah, they had to

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<v Speaker 4>get through that first game, but I think their experience

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<v Speaker 4>really pulled them through.

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<v Speaker 3>The one and only Tom to LESCo, our friend. You

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<v Speaker 3>can listen to them on Serious XM NFL Radio for

0:27:08.160 --> 0:27:12.399
<v Speaker 3>the NFL is this area of expertise. That and of

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<v Speaker 3>course Corona del mar C Kings Football. We appreciate your

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<v Speaker 3>tom and have a wonderful.

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<v Speaker 4>Night anytime, guys, Let's talk soon.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Yes, sir, we will be right back with

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<v Speaker 3>mar petros and money. We've got some text usos coming

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<v Speaker 3>up there. Well wrap it up before Dodger Talk talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>To human.

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<v Speaker 3>David Vsse won the talk show of the Year at

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<v Speaker 3>the Southern California Sports Broadcasters Award at Lakeside. Like a

0:28:08.720 --> 0:28:12.480
<v Speaker 3>human pin hours ago. David Vsse went up there like

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<v Speaker 3>a human being that accepted his wart. It's a great

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<v Speaker 3>moment in sports history.

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<v Speaker 2>We are on the way, were not on the freeway

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<v Speaker 2>of life. Oh stop, and there are many exits.

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<v Speaker 3>We are live until seven. We're almost done.

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<v Speaker 2>And I got off at that exit, and there were

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<v Speaker 2>people waiting to show me the way.

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<v Speaker 3>Like we still act like the twenty year old people

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<v Speaker 3>in the audience, and it's wrongs.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's because no one young has coming behind.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not true.

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<v Speaker 2>Carlo was that was it?

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<v Speaker 3>What about Chris Harry, he's a young guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Saw him he is, but he was not nominated for anything.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he was there to sport as bosson Hill.

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<v Speaker 3>I saw it. I saw Jim, he saw brother Jim.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a little longer the time I would say we

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<v Speaker 2>were still in the ninetieth percentile of youth. I still believe, well,

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<v Speaker 2>we act old as we are, we act like we

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<v Speaker 2>sure do.

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<v Speaker 3>Dodger Talk coming up with the talk show host of

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<v Speaker 3>the Year David Fass and he's going to deliver that

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<v Speaker 3>don't forget to podcast our show on the iHeartRadio app

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<v Speaker 3>for your smartphone, because we are your home the back

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<v Speaker 3>to back World Series champion Dodgers. But Tim Kates is

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<v Speaker 3>not able to ride that freedom train no to get

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<v Speaker 3>an award.

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<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately, the train did not stop at his station, did

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<v Speaker 2>not just drove right straight. Toss had delivered the Award

0:29:45.040 --> 0:29:49.360
<v Speaker 2>to a real human being. Yes, all right, Matt, your

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful speech from Stephen Nelson thanking Dwayne and Colin and

0:29:54.360 --> 0:29:59.320
<v Speaker 2>acknowledging tc. You know that I am incredibly fortunate and lucky.

0:29:59.320 --> 0:30:00.960
<v Speaker 2>I believe he called it one hundred and ten percent

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<v Speaker 2>luck to be able to call these Dodger game. He

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<v Speaker 2>really handled them that absolutely, like a true professional.

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<v Speaker 3>From back to back to back against the wall too,

0:30:10.800 --> 0:30:14.120
<v Speaker 3>back to back, like a human being. Why do you

0:30:14.280 --> 0:30:18.240
<v Speaker 3>have bed Matt celebrating this guy. We've done it before

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<v Speaker 3>and it's well, it's an interesting story. Horatio Alger from Chelsea,

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<v Speaker 3>mass Matt, you were just in Massachusetts. A forgettable trip

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<v Speaker 3>for you to New England.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you that was except the civil disobedience at

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<v Speaker 2>the State House on Sunday morning. You know that made

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<v Speaker 2>it worth it.

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<v Speaker 3>Close to the New England Puritan aristocracy. One hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>ninety three years old today, coming up in the nineteenth century,

0:30:47.080 --> 0:30:54.320
<v Speaker 3>Horatio Alger was a descendant of minute men and a

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<v Speaker 3>guy at the Constitutional Convention. It's a difficult boy with asthma.

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<v Speaker 3>I can relate with that. That's where my relation to

0:31:02.000 --> 0:31:08.440
<v Speaker 3>him stops. He went to Harvard thrived started writing, became

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<v Speaker 3>a Unitarian pastor just like his father as well, but

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<v Speaker 3>he was kicked out for reports that he was getting

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<v Speaker 3>too familiar with the young people, the boys. He did

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<v Speaker 3>admit that he had been imprudent with the boys, and

0:31:22.320 --> 0:31:26.200
<v Speaker 3>his father got involved. His father promised that his son

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<v Speaker 3>would never seek a church post ever again, and the

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<v Speaker 3>church said, okay, we'll leave him alone. We won't tarn

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<v Speaker 3>featherhum or, stone him to death or whatever it is

0:31:37.320 --> 0:31:42.720
<v Speaker 3>we do bad thing to pediasses. So he was off

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<v Speaker 3>to New York. There he did what Youwett would do.

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<v Speaker 2>If you were a pediaste.

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<v Speaker 3>He studied street boys. Ah yeah, and he wrote the

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<v Speaker 3>Rags to Richest masterpiece about a poor boot black and

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<v Speaker 3>his rise to middle class responsibility. That book's name Ragged Dick.

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<v Speaker 3>Excuse it's not funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Next time I go on one of these podcasts that

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<v Speaker 2>asks you ask you your favorite books to a ragged.

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<v Speaker 3>Dick by Peter Ass Horatio.

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<v Speaker 2>Oucher recommend Ragged Dick.

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<v Speaker 3>Many many books followed Matt. Most of his works after

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<v Speaker 3>that followed the same exact pattern. Honest, hard working boy,

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<v Speaker 3>a noble stranger, a snob, and an evil, greedy squire

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<v Speaker 3>many titles for you, Matt if you want to play

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<v Speaker 3>a little album, I mean, if.

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<v Speaker 2>You already wasted.

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<v Speaker 3>Ragged Dick, I told you the same theme in every book,

0:32:55.440 --> 0:32:57.720
<v Speaker 3>and this guy wrote so many. But we've done this before,

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<v Speaker 3>but I never looked into.

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<v Speaker 2>Like maybe they should have let him time to the post.

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<v Speaker 3>His gigantic bibliography is unbelievable. Jed the Poorhouse Boy. I

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<v Speaker 3>think this one we can all relate with. The disagreeable woman.

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<v Speaker 2>No, not me, not in my life.

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<v Speaker 3>Like a human being. Ad the street boy out West.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the David Basset story. And then I got off

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<v Speaker 2>the freeway at another exit.

0:33:36.080 --> 0:33:46.360
<v Speaker 3>Tattered Tom, the story of a street Arab luck and pluck.

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<v Speaker 2>He has gone and I have sent him? What misdirection?

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<v Speaker 2>The ragged How's the ragged Dick in me?

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<v Speaker 3>He was gay? He died from asthma at his sister's

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<v Speaker 3>house in eighteen ninety nine at the age of sixty seven.

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<v Speaker 3>His books have come out again in twenty fifteen because

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<v Speaker 3>being a better ass. I guess it's as bad as he's.

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<v Speaker 2>A different time. Ragged twenty fifteen.

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<v Speaker 3>Ragged Ditch Chickup return Up the Day.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, you're a live guy, really just an opportunity to

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<v Speaker 2>want to play one of our all time favorite songs.

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<v Speaker 2>Happy Birthday to Wayne Michael Coin, one of the Wayne

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<v Speaker 2>Coin hit the post. There Oh, one of the most brilliant, creative,

0:34:45.520 --> 0:34:48.920
<v Speaker 2>visionary musicians you could ever come across. If you have

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<v Speaker 2>not been to a flaming lip show, to yourself the

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<v Speaker 2>favor and get to one. It is different, put on

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<v Speaker 2>charge of power, no doubt, different than anything you've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 2>He is sixty five today, so I don't know how

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<v Speaker 2>much longer he's gonna be doing it. The music is incredible,

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<v Speaker 2>the show is incomparable. Wayne is freaking cool man born,

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<v Speaker 2>real human being. He's a real born in Pittsburgh, raised

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<v Speaker 2>in Oklahoma City. Loves his hometown so much that he

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<v Speaker 2>bought a house in one of the most rundown areas

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<v Speaker 2>of town, then bought another, and another, and another and here.

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<v Speaker 2>Thirty years later, he essentially created the Oklahoma City Arts District.

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<v Speaker 2>While he was in high school, he worked at Long

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<v Speaker 2>John Silvers all right, p Long John Silvers fast food

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<v Speaker 2>fish store was robbed.

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<v Speaker 3>Like when they had like a moat that you had

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<v Speaker 3>to walk over the bridge to get into the store.

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<v Speaker 2>You might die or you might get hushpuppies. Coin was

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<v Speaker 2>held at gunpoint. He was told he was going to

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<v Speaker 2>be killed if someone didn't open the safe. Nobody dare

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<v Speaker 2>knew how to open the safe at Long Johns at

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<v Speaker 2>Long John Silvers. Thankfully, the robbers fled, had an epiphany,

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<v Speaker 2>decided to chase his dreams, started a band with his brother.

0:35:58.880 --> 0:36:02.880
<v Speaker 2>Wayne was on guitar, brother lead vocals. They started Flaming Lips.

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<v Speaker 2>Mark left, Wayne took over as frontman. He is their

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<v Speaker 2>main songwriter. The name Origin is as good as anything

0:36:09.280 --> 0:36:11.520
<v Speaker 2>you've ever heard. It was a reference to a high

0:36:11.560 --> 0:36:16.800
<v Speaker 2>school rumor they remembered and they will always remember, about

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<v Speaker 2>a classmate getting genital herpes after she had a dude

0:36:20.719 --> 0:36:24.600
<v Speaker 2>performing oral exercises down on her while he had active

0:36:24.680 --> 0:36:28.799
<v Speaker 2>cold source and Wayne said quote one night over a

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<v Speaker 2>pack of Schlitz and some left handed cigarettes. We remembered

0:36:32.440 --> 0:36:34.399
<v Speaker 2>and joked how he used to say they both had

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<v Speaker 2>Flaming Lips and it just stuck. First release here it

0:36:39.239 --> 0:36:40.840
<v Speaker 2>is came out in eighty six, but I know the

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<v Speaker 2>two albums independently over the next couple of years. Nineteen ninety,

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<v Speaker 2>Warner Brothers had an A and R guy at the

0:36:46.440 --> 0:36:50.279
<v Speaker 2>American Legion Hall in Norman, Oklahoma. They almost burned the

0:36:50.280 --> 0:36:53.960
<v Speaker 2>place down with their pyrotechnics. They were signed immediately. First

0:36:53.960 --> 0:36:57.080
<v Speaker 2>major label released ninety one ninety three transmissions from the

0:36:57.120 --> 0:37:00.440
<v Speaker 2>satellite heart Had She Don't Use Jelly? Played it on

0:37:00.480 --> 0:37:04.759
<v Speaker 2>K Rock, took off and made their way through the

0:37:04.840 --> 0:37:08.000
<v Speaker 2>late night shows. The TV circuit opened for the Red

0:37:08.000 --> 0:37:10.320
<v Speaker 2>Hot Chili Peppers, but, of course, being Wayne and the

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<v Speaker 2>Flaming Lips, they put out two experimental, ethereal sounding albums

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<v Speaker 2>that did not match up to the Kitchie She Don't

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<v Speaker 2>Use Jelly. So about a half decade of dormancy after

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<v Speaker 2>their big hit until Soft Bullets went away for five

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<v Speaker 2>years in ninety nine, Had Do You Realize?

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<v Speaker 1>That?

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<v Speaker 2>Might have been the best song of the year, best

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<v Speaker 2>album of the year. Very pet soundsey is what it

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<v Speaker 2>was being compared to.

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<v Speaker 3>I far in California.

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<v Speaker 2>Their show at south By Southwest was the stuff of legend.

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<v Speaker 2>I happened to be there. They passed out headphones to

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<v Speaker 2>everybody and you watched their concert with headphones on. It

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<v Speaker 2>was wild man, but a time to be in love.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow. I was somewhere today too. Okay, right, Hey, we're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be talking about that for years as well. We are.

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<v Speaker 2>They won a Grammy for this What Yoshimi. It's about

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<v Speaker 2>a freedom train. This song was adapted the Mute. The

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<v Speaker 2>album was adapted into a musical. They had put out

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<v Speaker 2>six albums since most recent American Head In twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>They did their Yoshimi Battles Topink Robots album tour last year,

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<v Speaker 2>playing at front to back. He is sixty five, hopefully

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<v Speaker 2>still touring. He has two little boys, a five year

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<v Speaker 2>old and a three year old. Happy sixty fifth, Wayne

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<v Speaker 2>Qui coming up next, Dodg a real human being. He

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<v Speaker 2>treats others like human.

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<v Speaker 3>Being guaranteed, Human guaranteed. David Vasse coming up next tomorrow

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<v Speaker 3>will be on from three to six thirty before the

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<v Speaker 3>Clippers take on to win. Clippers are hot Man, thanks

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<v Speaker 3>for listening.

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<v Speaker 2>Earlier Man at a bounce in his stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>You look great.

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<v Speaker 2>Good night sa