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Speaker 1: Justin Worsham is with us, host of the Dad Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Today we're going to be talking about Shaquille O'Neill and

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Speaker 1: his different rules for girls versus his rules for boys

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Speaker 1: under his room.

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Speaker 2: Can he tells CNN how many kids he's got. Oh no,

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Speaker 2: I didn't look into that.

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Speaker 3: I did because we I don't know how many kids

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Speaker 3: he's got. He's got at least six and the steps on.

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Speaker 3: So he sometimes refers to having six or seven kids.

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Speaker 4: Whole lot of kids.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so, and I don't know the breakdown gender wise,

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Speaker 3: but multiples of each.

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Speaker 2: We do know that.

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Speaker 5: Here's what shocking that I think about that is that

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Speaker 5: he was born in Newark, New Jersey. Like this to

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Speaker 5: me seems like a very southern thing. Well, I believe he.

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Speaker 3: Grew up I mean born in New Jersey, but think

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Speaker 3: he spent most of his time in the South somewhere.

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Speaker 2: Yonio.

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Speaker 4: This thing seems like, I said, what does he do?

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Speaker 2: He's saying that thank you, Shennon.

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Speaker 5: He's saying that if you were a boy at eighteen

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Speaker 5: years of age, you got to get up out his house.

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Speaker 5: But if you are a daughter, you could stay there

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Speaker 5: as long as your heart desires. And he will subsidize

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Speaker 5: your edge as much as you want, because he feels

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Speaker 5: he believes in traditional gender roles and that as a man,

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Speaker 5: it is your job to protect and take care of

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Speaker 5: your woman. And it's very interesting because personally, right I

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Speaker 5: like this, and what it made me think of is

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Speaker 5: that people, at least in my social groups, tend to

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Speaker 5: get very up in arms about traditional gender roles and

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Speaker 5: how it has some kind of a negative impact on

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Speaker 5: society at large, and that somehow it's also damaging to women,

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Speaker 5: I think in particular.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know.

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Speaker 5: You tell me if you think, I'll tell you, Like,

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Speaker 5: my wife would love nothing more than for me to

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Speaker 5: make enough of a living where she didn't have to

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Speaker 5: do anything and I could completely take care of her,

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Speaker 5: like I'm sure that and that's.

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Speaker 2: How she's wired.

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Speaker 5: But it's interesting that we seem to have this expectation,

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Speaker 5: in my opinion, culturally, to be sensitive to people's religious beliefs.

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Speaker 2: But in regard to like gender roles, we cannot.

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Speaker 5: Like, if you expect a woman to be somebody who's like,

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Speaker 5: You're going to stay and take care of house things

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Speaker 5: and kid things, and I'm going to take care of

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Speaker 5: money things that seems to be that now you are

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Speaker 5: subjecting that woman to a life that she does not want,

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Speaker 5: even if arguably, like again my wife would sign up,

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Speaker 5: you probably leave me.

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Speaker 4: Even if she could she could.

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Speaker 5: I mean she could, she absolutely could, she absolutely could.

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Speaker 3: But it's funny I didn't think of it that way,

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Speaker 3: just in terms of there are people who choose to

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Speaker 3: live a t I mean finger quotes traditional lifestyle, but

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Speaker 3: and they choose to live that way. It's not like

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Speaker 3: it's imposed upon or or they get married and then

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Speaker 3: all of the sudden the rules then emerge like oh no, no,

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: You do not get to have a job.

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Speaker 3: You do not get to do things other than kick

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Speaker 3: them shoes off, get fat, get in that kitchen kind

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Speaker 5: Serve me right, Which it's never how it goes, at

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Speaker 5: least in the ones I've seen.

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Speaker 3: That may have been in TV shows from fifty years ago,

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Speaker 3: but that does not exist.

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Speaker 5: No, Like even in my situation, my wife has no

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Speaker 5: idea what's going on with her finances. I make all

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Speaker 5: the decision I run stuff by her, but she definitely

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Speaker 5: doesn't want to know.

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Speaker 2: She doesn't want to be involved.

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Speaker 5: But I the way I process that is that mean

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Speaker 5: that I just have to be aware of what she

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Speaker 5: wants and make sure she gets it as much as

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Speaker 5: I humanly can. She gets far more of what she

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Speaker 5: wants than I do, and so I don't I don't think.

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Speaker 2: I don't mean that.

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Speaker 5: Am I accidentally slipping this some kind of like couple

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Speaker 5: seraphin or this crap.

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Speaker 2: I hate it when I step in stuff here.

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Speaker 4: I'm staying out of it.

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Speaker 2: Smart. Gary's like, I wish I could. You guys are

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Speaker 2: just leave and I'll just say her talk to listeners myself, let.

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Speaker 1: Them worship family Christmas card and I don't want to

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Speaker 1: be cut off that list.

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Speaker 2: But the different, but it is different.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the idea, the prospect for women now is

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Speaker 3: vastly different than it was even thirty years ago whatever,

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Speaker 3: or when we were here, my own mom felt like

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Speaker 3: she could not go get a career.

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Speaker 2: She felt like her job was to just could be a.

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Speaker 4: Nurse or a teacher, you know kind of a thing.

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Speaker 3: Those were the two avenues. Yeah, and now I mean,

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Speaker 3: my daughter is studying stuff. I don't even know how

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Speaker 3: to describe the Nobel Prize in terms of her chemistry

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Speaker 3: and physical not physical organic chemistry specifically, I don't get it.

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Speaker 2: I don't understand it. I would never.

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Speaker 1: See in your mom's day and age, she would your

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Speaker 1: daughter's what twenty three, she'd be married and having kids

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Speaker 1: and there would be no time.

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Speaker 2: For the lab.

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Speaker 3: That's you're right. My mom was married by the time

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Speaker 3: she was ninety.

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Speaker 4: The time change tables have changed. So what does that mean? Right?

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Speaker 1: So women now are gonna do all the things because

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Speaker 1: we've been shown it can be done. You can't have

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Speaker 1: a career, you can't have kids. You can do all

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Speaker 1: the things. It's just you got to move the slide moves.

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Speaker 1: So you're gonna be doing You're gonna be focused on

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Speaker 1: your career until you're thirty, and then you're gonna make

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Speaker 1: kids and get married and everything just gets shifted. And

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Speaker 1: that's why people are having babies later, right because of women.

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Speaker 1: And they're just decision to work and not to jump

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Speaker 1: into the traditional lifestyle right away. They can still do it.

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Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of women that want both.

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Speaker 1: They want to have the career and then they want

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Speaker 1: it's his time to take care of everything.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and what's interesting to me is also like how

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Speaker 5: long it's taken for the pendulum to kind of shift,

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Speaker 5: because for years I've been coming in here talking about how, yes,

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Speaker 5: it's a growing population of stay at home dads or

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Speaker 5: dads that are helping out more, but across the board,

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Speaker 5: dads are not doing enough in the home. They're not

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Speaker 5: doing enough of the cleaning and the cooking and the

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Speaker 5: taking care of the kids. Right, Like, you can't just

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Speaker 5: just like I go make money, I come home, I

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Speaker 5: drink my Tom Collins and then the kids prepare their

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Speaker 5: speeches of what their day was, like let's leave it

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Speaker 5: to beaver, Like.

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Speaker 3: I think people still do that, you think so, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I used to drink Collins mix, Oh just clean, just Colins.

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Speaker 4: I loved a vodka Collins. That was a good drink.

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Speaker 3: We'll come back or justin marshallall were we go, We're drinking.

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Speaker 3: Now we've seen this trailer yet I have not. All

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Speaker 3: the toys are terrified because the kid gets a tablet.

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Speaker 2: Oh. I love it.

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Speaker 3: I love the I mean it's probably about ten fifteen

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Speaker 3: years too late, but I love the story and I

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Speaker 3: love the idea of it. The idea of reducing screen

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Speaker 3: time for kids is something that we've advocated for years

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Speaker 3: on this show. At the beginning, it was simply because

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Speaker 3: kids were rude in restaurants. I mean, if you go

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Speaker 3: always way too loud or you're, you know, robbing the

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Speaker 3: are parents now trying to reduce their kids screen time. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and my issue with it is the is using it

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Speaker 3: interpreting what I've talked to an expert since Seen and

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Speaker 3: Like research is that the population of children is growing

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Speaker 3: with an inability to deal with negative experiences because they've

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Speaker 3: always got something to distract them. And this is pronounce

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Speaker 3: his name correctly, Jason Nagata. He's an associate professor of

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Speaker 3: pediatrics at the University of California, San Francisco, and he

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Speaker 3: was talking about the American Academy Pediatrics recommends that parents

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Speaker 3: create a family media use plan, which is very much

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Speaker 3: like a technology contract, I would imagine, and what they

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Speaker 3: talk about, there's this family that he talks about. What

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Speaker 3: they did was they noticed their kids were using it

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Speaker 3: down with them, And all of the experts I've ever

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Speaker 3: we have learned something that you using this tablet so

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Speaker 3: much is not a good thing for you.

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Speaker 2: So we're gonna we have to rain this back.

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Speaker 5: And what I like about that is it's not like

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Speaker 5: parents coming in having to say, like we are saying

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Speaker 5: this is not okay, because that implies I think, to

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Speaker 5: which is not the message. I like that they're kind

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Speaker 5: of owning up, like this is how you handle things

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Speaker 5: when you find that you have a misunderstanding about them.

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Speaker 5: And then they say we wean them off of And

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Speaker 5: there was resistance, but eventually life in general just improved

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Speaker 5: when they had less of this distraction.

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Speaker 3: I guess it would be similar to telling a kid, hey,

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Speaker 3: I know I've been feeding you you who for the

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Speaker 3: and I realized that's not good for you. Yeah, because

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Speaker 3: no more, or whatever happens to a kid who has

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Speaker 3: four weeks worth of you who But the idea of

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Speaker 3: what do you call it, of logically explaining something to

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Speaker 3: kids like this is a little bit lost on me.

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Speaker 3: Oh really, well, only because I guess it would depend

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Speaker 3: on the age and wiscrapoint what level they are in

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Speaker 3: terms of that, of their comprehension of that. But it

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Speaker 3: is something to say, hey, I mean the idea that

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Speaker 3: you would scold them without really an explanation, right, would probably.

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Speaker 5: I think coming in and saying you are on your

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Speaker 5: screen too much, so we have to minimize that. I think,

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Speaker 5: like I'm also even looking at it. My older son

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Speaker 5: especially has started to like moments where I've had of

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Speaker 5: shorter fuse. He calls me on it, like holds up

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Speaker 5: a mirror to He's like, damn, but everything.

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Speaker 2: Okay, like you good? And I don't like it. I'll

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Speaker 2: be honest, I do not like it. I like being

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Speaker 2: called out.

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Speaker 5: I prefer the much more compliant four year old version

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Speaker 5: of him, right, the smaller.

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Speaker 2: I have enough introspection going on in my life. I

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Speaker 2: think we all can agree. I don't need himpiling it on.

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Speaker 6: Okay guy, But but yeah, it's it's talking to them

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Speaker 6: and saying like this is we have to we have

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Speaker 6: to change this, and we have to do it better

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Speaker 6: because and I talk about it all the time on here.

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Speaker 5: Is that you know, the more kids use social media,

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Speaker 5: the more likely they are to become depressed. The thing

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Speaker 5: I want to add to that is that I just

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Speaker 5: I think that as parents, and I would love myself

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Speaker 2: I think I've started to be guilty of this.

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Speaker 5: But don't notice any time or I've gone all the

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Speaker 2: Social media whatsoever. You can never use a tablet. And

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Speaker 5: What we're really talking about in all things is moderation, right,

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Speaker 1: But it's hard when the companies are wired to get

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Speaker 2: Moderation is very tough.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's almost think of alcohol this way, where there's

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Speaker 2: Here's a michelob ultra.

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Speaker 3: If I'm on my screen, whatever kind of screen it is,

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Speaker 5: And I think, I think the people who get really

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Speaker 5: and I don't know because here to your point, Shannon,

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Speaker 2: Are you right? Because what I learned and my two kids.

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Speaker 5: he's different. You have to regulate those things for him.

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Speaker 5: And I've learned that because I've never regulated their screen

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Speaker 2: They would start to see the pitfall. And he has.

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Speaker 5: My younger son, his grades have fallen because he prioritized

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Speaker 5: I was like no, and I'm sorry, but that's not

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Speaker 4: I love that argument. I've made the effort.

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Speaker 3: And that goes full circle to treating your kids. You know,

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Speaker 3: different kids receive different treatment. That's exactly what Shaq taught us. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: seven feet tall. Well, uh and a billionaire. Right, there's

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