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Speaker 1: Big Football Friday, Ryan Edwards, Nate Jackson, what's up Nate?

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Speaker 2: Hey? Are you right, good man?

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Speaker 1: It's Freddy a voice. Yeah, yeah, it's good, it's good.

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Speaker 1: It's good to good to see you.

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Speaker 3: How how we a BFF? What BFF? Best friend friend

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Speaker 3: for ever? Big Football Friday? Oh yeah, that's that's right. Sorry,

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Speaker 3: good job on actually repeating the words that I said.

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Speaker 3: And I didn't realize.

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Speaker 2: I know, it's okaykind of like that, so you had

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Speaker 2: other things out of your mind. Well, my my.

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Speaker 4: Headphones became unplugged. So I was riffing there for a minute.

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Speaker 4: We had a big show though for you guys today.

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Speaker 4: Of course I have left my run dad over here.

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Speaker 2: Got Pastor Tan joining us here in about thirty minutes.

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Speaker 4: Awesome, looking forward to chatting with Pad. Of course, we're

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Speaker 4: gonna check in with the Packers. Ryan Wood's going to

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Speaker 4: join us after five o'clock.

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Speaker 1: We'll go through the list of games racked to a

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Speaker 1: little bit of last night's game.

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Speaker 2: It's here Todd Bowles afterwards. Now what do you say?

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Speaker 1: Oh, a bunch of much of naughty words, potty words.

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Speaker 1: Is muficult to hear about it? No, oh he did?

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Speaker 1: I would just imagine that. He was pretty upset by

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Speaker 1: that game, very upset by that game. Now, no fantasy

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Speaker 1: players who decided to start Kyle Pitts are feeling pretty good.

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Speaker 2: I'm among them.

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Speaker 1: I into how cool is that? Well, no wonder, it

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Speaker 1: is such a good mood.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: My daughter's got croup. Oh really yeah, just you know,

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Speaker 1: She took her to the doctor today and they pulled

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Speaker 1: out this like air compressor suction thing to get to

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Speaker 1: stuff out. It was like, gosh, yeah, squirming. I'm like

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Speaker 1: it was it broke my heart.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but those are what.

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Speaker 1: Those little you know, those little things they can't clear

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Speaker 1: their nose, they can't you know, and it's all it's

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Speaker 1: gunky up there. And then she was like panting, and

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Speaker 1: how does this tie in to the Kyle Pitts thing?

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Speaker 2: It doesn't.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well you kind of like we're like, oh, how

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Speaker 1: are you feeling?

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Speaker 2: Gotcha? That's how I'm feeling. So you were like Kyle

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Speaker 2: Pitts And then today up all night. Yeah, that sucked. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry with.

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Speaker 1: The joys of fatherhood. But Kyle pits Silver lying in

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Speaker 1: that cloud. Incredible game though, I mean less just get two.

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Speaker 1: So but Kyle Pitts was amazing, that's true. And the

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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers quite an interesting case study and sort

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Speaker 1: of like peaking too early, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, right, and riding that wave of everyone thinks you're great.

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Speaker 1: Power rankings, you know, I think they might have been

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Speaker 1: number one of the power rankings in the first five

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Speaker 1: or six weeks. Baker Mayfield MVP candidate, all that was true. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it is for a short time, and that's why you

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Speaker 1: don't want to win September.

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Speaker 2: You don't want to win October. You want to be

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Speaker 2: in it at the end. And they're fading.

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Speaker 4: Well, no, there's absolutely no doubt they're fading. I think

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Speaker 4: with like last five, with their last six or something

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Speaker 4: along those lines that they've been they've been a mess

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Speaker 4: and they've been injured.

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Speaker 2: They've been injured a lot.

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Speaker 4: But last night they had the full confiment of offensive

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Speaker 4: and then they went for two.

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Speaker 2: Remarkably the Falcons did.

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Speaker 4: They scored their third touchdown and they're like, let's go

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Speaker 4: for two now, yeap, And then of course they didn't

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Speaker 4: really matter though the Falcons. A lot of people were

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Speaker 4: killing the al Michaels for a game winning call last night.

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Speaker 4: I also have that. But first year's Todd Bowles after

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Speaker 4: the game, you.

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Speaker 5: Tell them in locker, I forget, it's inexcusable. You don't

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Speaker 5: make excuses. You gotta care enough where it hurts. You

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Speaker 5: gotta care enough where it hurts. It gotta mean something

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Speaker 5: to you. It's more than a job. That's your livelihood.

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Speaker 5: How well do you know your job? How well can

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Speaker 5: you do your job? Well? You can't sugar coat it

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Speaker 5: was in the excusable and he has no answer for it,

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Speaker 5: has for no excuse for it. And that's what you're

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Speaker 2: Wow, he didn't give zero fs.

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Speaker 1: He gave quite a few good quite a few I

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Speaker 4: U I know Zack Seker's back there, like, please please

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Speaker 4: toggles usually not. You know, he's unknown for the coaching rant. No,

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Speaker 4: it's not really his style quiet leadership. That one will

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Speaker 2: I imagine he said something similar to him in the

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Speaker 1: And it's interesting from a guy who's who is so

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Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, yet you know, what are you? But

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Speaker 2: it's not. It was very calm as a coach.

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Speaker 4: Did you like the exuberant, loud in your face coach

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Speaker 4: now or did you like more of the quiet speak?

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Speaker 4: I mean didn't matter, like as far as how you

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Speaker 4: received a message.

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Speaker 2: It does.

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Speaker 1: I think sometimes the message itself can get lost in

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Speaker 1: the anger. And and I think there's certainly a place

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Speaker 1: on every coaching staff for that guy. You know, he's

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Speaker 1: like the bad cop who can come in and and yell.

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Speaker 1: Typically that's a that's a position coach or maybe a

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Speaker 2: But if your headman is a hothead. I don't know how.

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Speaker 1: Head coach hot heads have there really been that have

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Speaker 1: I think most head coaches who are successful have an

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Speaker 1: even even temperament. You know, they control their emotions because

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Speaker 1: they want their players to control their emotions. And it

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Speaker 1: was always about you know, Mike Shanahan. I always use

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Speaker 1: was all about staying even keeled, don't get too high,

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Speaker 1: don't get too low. Certainly, we're upset sometimes and we're gonna,

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Speaker 2: But a coach who just always goes to that.

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Speaker 1: And throws a lot around, a lot of f bombs

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Speaker 4: It feels like it right, It becomes static, yeah, sort

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Speaker 4: of white noises like all right, yeah, you're always angry,

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Speaker 2: But that's where I think Todd Bowles is different.

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Speaker 1: And I think when he does something like that, there's

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Speaker 1: just like whoa, yeah, this is really bad. Now.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it'll change much.

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Speaker 4: I mean, ham Bay still has an opportunity here, but Carolina.

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Speaker 4: Carolina's very excited about how things because they now slot

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Speaker 4: into that NFC South seed.

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Speaker 2: Kind of interesting thing, now, you tell me, all right,

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Speaker 2: very al.

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Speaker 1: Michaels, Listen, al Michaels is you know, not now almost

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Speaker 1: he used to be. He used to be the legend,

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Speaker 1: like like the standard of this business in play calling,

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Speaker 1: besides of course from Dave Logan. But al Michaels is

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Speaker 1: a legend, right, But you know, some of the games

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Speaker 1: at times on Thursday Night to Prime, it seems like

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Speaker 1: he's just kind of going through the motions. He's had

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Speaker 1: some really bad games too, for what it's worth, this

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Speaker 1: was a very good game though, and this was an

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Speaker 1: unbelievable comebacks in Atlanta. Yeah, I mean you're talking about

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Speaker 1: some big time moments in this game, and they line

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Speaker 1: up for the field goal and.

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Speaker 4: So you're like, wow, the anticipation of this thing. You know,

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Speaker 4: Tampa Bay blocks it. What that means for Tampa Bay

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Speaker 4: to hang on here? Meanwhile, Falcons have had a terrible season,

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Speaker 4: just an unbelievably bad season.

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Speaker 1: How is al Michael's gonna call this thing? Well, here's

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Speaker 1: what it sounded like.

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Speaker 6: Get the opinion to hold it and the kick is

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Speaker 6: just inside the left up right. There's a little son

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Speaker 6: of Brayton going on in Charlotte, North Carolina. Right now,

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Speaker 6: we're just puts the Panthers in the driver's seat for

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Speaker 6: a moment and the NFC shot.

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Speaker 2: They control their own faith, So.

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Speaker 4: You tell me, like, I mean, I don't know, Like

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Speaker 4: maybe we have too, hi have a standard as a society,

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Speaker 4: because people were very upset last night when al Michaels

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Speaker 4: had the gate just inside the left up right, and oh,

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Speaker 4: like Carolina, Yeah, that was.

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Speaker 1: Kind of like a second quarter field goal to put

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Speaker 1: them up six with seven minutes left. There was not

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Speaker 1: a lot of inflection there. I mean, that's that's your climax.

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Speaker 1: You were supposed to climax, you know, vocally in a

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Speaker 2: And I think that like you said.

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Speaker 1: To rejoice, and you got people at home following along.

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Speaker 1: The Atlanta Falcons fans they want to feel that too,

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Speaker 2: Maybe not that Herbie guy. I'm not either, So maybe

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Speaker 2: Analys just doesn't feel it. Maybe you know. I mean,

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Speaker 2: he's right, probably ready to retire, it feels like it. Yeah. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 2: this was westan one call, just just a profund by

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Speaker 2: the way, I see what you did there, same Gonzales

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Speaker 2: in a two point game. On the approach, he drives it.

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Speaker 7: It's on the way and it is gone inside the

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Speaker 7: Lafelt Pride in Atlanta when it comes all the way

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Speaker 7: back the sick Tampa Bay.

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Speaker 2: So there you go.

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Speaker 1: That's that's how you do it. You're in the national broadcast. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: The exception of the Carolina Panthers stuff, which was kind

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Speaker 4: of just okay, yes, you're right, Carol Panthers now all

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Speaker 4: of a sudden jump in thanks for the observation.

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Speaker 2: But his his his whole point that justin.

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Speaker 1: Side the lift upright, And it's like if that was

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Speaker 1: the Tampa call, I would understand, because God, all right, right,

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Speaker 1: we lost this game. Atlanta's call is probably amazing, Like,

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Speaker 1: oh my God, would have come back even though it's

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Speaker 1: like five wins of the season, like Atlanta's having a

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Speaker 1: bad season.

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Speaker 2: You can excite you win, Hey, listen, you played the game,

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Speaker 2: you know, just like I do.

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Speaker 1: A win in this league is awesome. It doesn't matter

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Speaker 1: what point in the season it is. Yea and every

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's your that's your primetime game on Thursday night,

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Speaker 1: you know the league or they make a lot of

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Speaker 1: money on that game. There's a lot of people watching it.

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Speaker 1: Is it a marquee matchup? Maybe that al Michaels wanted.

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Speaker 2: He has his own podcast. I know Sean Payton probably

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Speaker 1: But these guys are being able to develop their voices

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Speaker 2: What would Sean say to Pat about his podcasting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. I mean when you have a catchphrase.

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Speaker 4: That's that's how it used to be. Your own throwback

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Speaker 4: So thirty starts Russell Wilson eleven and nineteen. Bonus twenty

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Speaker 1: Pretty kind of close numbers relative speaking, relative to Grant

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Speaker 2: They have upgraded the defense.

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Speaker 4: You know, they've added some very key important players to

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Speaker 2: So Bonus there for Russ, Russ has seven fumbles to

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Speaker 4: Wow one, And you want to guess how many sacks

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Speaker 2: We had like forty five. So one hundred yeah, two

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Speaker 1: No, hold on thirty games forty sacks, well's sixty sixty

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Speaker 1: So you're talking about how many both takes a sack

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Speaker 4: So the difference is the difference not like per but

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Speaker 4: it's the difference of two sacks additional per game for Russell.

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Speaker 1: And when you get sacked, I mean it's very likely

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Speaker 1: I think Russell had been sacked more in ten seasons

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Speaker 1: So this is clearly, you know, something that Russell didn't

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Speaker 2: Doesn't let the concept always develop, right, And sometimes you

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Speaker 1: There and take that shot, because that's that that patience

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Speaker 2: To allow you allowed a route to come open, you know.

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Speaker 1: And so it's not the worst thing in the world

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: He could run back seventy yards and throw it one

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Speaker 2: I feel like RUSSELLI thought he was in Techno Bulls taught.

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Speaker 4: Me everything I need to know. Well, apparently Russell Wilson. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: law of draft capital or for you not to have

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Speaker 4: to draft a quarterback for the next five, maybe six

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Speaker 4: or seven years.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So you know, I think Russell, I don't want

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Speaker 1: to see he got a raw deal here, But I

443
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Speaker 1: don't think that. I don't think that Sean Payton wanted

444
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Speaker 1: to make it work.

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Speaker 2: He did not.

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Speaker 1: You know, could there have been an instant where instance

447
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Speaker 1: where they worked. You know, Sean decided to meet him

448
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Speaker 1: in the middle a little bit and worked to get

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Speaker 1: to work on things that Russell does well the way

450
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Speaker 1: he does with bo. That might have helped Russell, But

451
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Speaker 1: I don't think he wanted to help well. I don't

452
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Speaker 1: think he wanted to have this thing happen forever because

453
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Speaker 1: he saw a ceiling there, and I think that ceiling

454
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Speaker 1: is a bit evident in the last couple of years

455
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Speaker 1: when Russell's bounced around to another couple of teams.

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Speaker 2: I think you're a hundred percent right.

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Speaker 4: And I would say there are some people that feel

458
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Speaker 4: like you got a rod deal from Sean, and maybe

459
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Speaker 4: to a certain extent, there's an argument there. I'd say,

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Speaker 4: if there was a rod deal, this is my opinion,

461
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Speaker 4: then maybe history will have whatever opinion on it. My

462
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Speaker 4: opinion on it is Nathaniel Hackett was the absolute worst

463
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Speaker 4: possible coach to pair with Russell Wilson. That you don't

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Speaker 4: know that until it's like happening, and they thought they

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Speaker 4: were getting Aaron Rodgers with Nathaniel Hackett, and that obviously

466
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Speaker 4: didn't work out, so your pivot was to Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 4: It just so happened to be the worst possible pairing

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Speaker 4: of that coach in that quarterback.

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Speaker 1: And honestly, if you'd got it like a Dan Quinn

470
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Speaker 1: that first year, you know, it'd been interesting.

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Speaker 2: It'd been interesting to see who he paired there.

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Speaker 4: If, like say, he brought in Brian Schottenheimer, who had

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Speaker 4: experienced with Russell Wilson, maybe that pairing would have worked

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Speaker 4: out a little bit better. Again, Russell Wilson, at this

475
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Speaker 4: point in his career is not even a starting caliber quarterback.

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Speaker 4: But I'm saying, at that moment the worst pairing of

477
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Speaker 4: that offensive mind of Nathaniel Hackett and Russell Wilson, that

478
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Speaker 4: there couldn't have been a worse pairing, And that is,

479
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Speaker 4: if you want anything, is a raw deal on what

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Speaker 4: he was able to do.

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Speaker 1: The Nathaniel Hackett thing was who was pretty interesting because

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Speaker 1: for a guy like George Payden, who's who's so good

483
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Speaker 1: at what he does and has made so many good decisions,

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Speaker 1: that was one of the one of the head scratchers,

485
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Speaker 1: and in hindsight looked just absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Ridiculous. And the things that Nathaniel Hackett did.

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Speaker 1: He didn't even finish out his first season, right, I

488
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Speaker 1: mean he he had he had a lot of kooky ideas.

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Speaker 1: He wanted to like disrupt the idea of like traditional

490
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Speaker 1: football with preparation, Like he didn't want to practice hard.

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Speaker 1: It was like, yeah, we're just gonna we're gonna save

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Speaker 1: you for December by losing all the games in September

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Speaker 1: in October. And yeah, So I think Nathaniel Hackett was

494
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Speaker 1: a curious time here, and it's it's pretty impressive that

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Speaker 1: we moved on.

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Speaker 2: So quickly from both of those guys, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 4: I offered roll here on a football Friday, we have

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Speaker 4: passer tann and joining us neck.

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Speaker 1: Broncos cornerback Pats or Tan Pat. You're on, Nate Jackson

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Speaker 1: and Ryan Edwards. Thanks so much for the time, man.

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Speaker 1: How are you?

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Speaker 8: Oh good? How are we doing?

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Speaker 2: We're doing great.

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Speaker 1: Although I say big game, I did like the way

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Speaker 1: that you kind of.

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Speaker 4: Framed it in your press conference earlier this week you

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Speaker 4: you talked about it a bit more. Hey, this is

508
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Speaker 4: another game, this is another opportunity for us, and is

509
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Speaker 4: that I guess the way that this team has operated

510
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Speaker 4: through this winning streak. As we approach every single game

511
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Speaker 4: is they're all important and no game is bigger than

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Speaker 4: the next.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I agree, obviously this is you know, it's a

514
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Speaker 8: big game with some pretty high stakes. But you know,

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Speaker 8: looking looking at it from a player's perspective, I feel

516
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Speaker 8: like we can get too rid up for games, you know.

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Speaker 8: I mean, that's when you start to overthink, and that's

518
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Speaker 8: when he starts to not think about the big picture.

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Speaker 8: You know. Obviously Green Bay they got a great team.

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Speaker 8: Uh so we we obviously got to be all hands

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Speaker 8: on deck. But at the end of the day, we

522
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Speaker 8: still got to figure out, not figure out, but we

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Speaker 8: still got to close out you know, this season the

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Speaker 8: right way. And then that's just us playing our ball

525
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Speaker 8: game on top of football and just upholding our standard.

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Speaker 8: So you know, I was tending folks.

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Speaker 9: You know earlier that you know, us playing at home.

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Speaker 8: Is you know, very dangerous. You know this this year

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Speaker 8: said that. So we're just going to keep on you

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Speaker 8: know what I mean, right in that wave and keep

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Speaker 8: on going.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Pat, you mentioned it, playing at home ten game

533
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Speaker 1: win streak, it gets really loud. There a lot of

534
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Speaker 1: passionate fans and a lot of times when people think

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Speaker 1: about the crowd noise, they think about how it affects

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Speaker 1: the offense and the offense can't communicate.

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Speaker 2: How does that affect defense if at all?

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Speaker 1: When you when it's when it's too loud to talk

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Speaker 1: to your teammates, does that does that affect what you

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Speaker 1: guys do it all again, how does the crowd noise

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Speaker 1: affect you guys on defense? Does that mess you guys

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Speaker 1: up at all?

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Speaker 8: I mean to the extent, But we've done a pretty

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Speaker 8: good job at you know, giving out hand signals obviously

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Speaker 8: non verbally, so uh, we always put an emphasis on

546
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Speaker 8: making sure we communicate the right way with hand signals,

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Speaker 8: of course, because it gets pretty loud, uh in that stadium.

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Speaker 8: So and I know it's gonna be very loud this weekend,

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Speaker 8: so we got to be on top of that.

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Speaker 9: But I'll say it affects us in a in a

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Speaker 9: positive way. I think it definitely.

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Speaker 8: So, I think it definitely, you know, distracts the opponent

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Speaker 8: for sure. You know, the crowd noticed sometimes it could

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Speaker 8: affect you know, the snap count. Uh, it could affect

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Speaker 8: the holder in the offense. And I think it's gonna

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Speaker 8: be very evident this weekend I.

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Speaker 4: Heureus from your perspective because the Packers are built a

558
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Speaker 4: little bit different, and I think you did talk about

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Speaker 4: it in your press conference this week, but just to

560
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Speaker 4: kind of circle back, they don't have a true number one,

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Speaker 4: like not by traditional standards, right when you go to

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Speaker 4: the play the Raiders, well at rock Bowers right now

563
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Speaker 4: is kind of their de facto number one certain other teams, Hey, Devantae.

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Speaker 2: Adams, we know that he can be a one for

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Speaker 2: this team.

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Speaker 4: They just have a lot of very good receivers, all

567
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Speaker 4: playing at a very high level. So for the secondary,

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Speaker 4: I guess it's specifically you, right, considering you're a number

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Speaker 4: one cornerback. How does that impact things?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think it's I think it's pretty even too obviously,

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Speaker 8: you know, I think it matches up Will with our scheme.

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Speaker 9: So I think when you look at.

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Speaker 8: A game plan, why right, I think you know, we

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Speaker 8: metch up Will.

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Speaker 9: Just on outside of the ball. So I think it's

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Speaker 9: gonna be a great matchup.

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Speaker 8: And I feel like all over, you know, it was

578
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Speaker 8: actually good that they don't have a pretty deep the

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Speaker 8: receiver one because it allows us to play all over

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Speaker 8: and uh, I think it's gonna be a fun game, man,

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Speaker 8: because I think they're you know, they got young talented receivers,

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Speaker 8: and I think we have a young talented d V room,

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Speaker 8: So it's gonna be good on good for sure.

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Speaker 1: Uh. I want to talk about the raider game real quick,

585
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Speaker 1: because you lined up against Brock Bauers a couple of

586
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Speaker 1: times down in the red zone for sure. What's that

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Speaker 1: like when you're lined up or matched up against the

588
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Speaker 1: tight end versus a receiver. Obviously you got the size

589
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Speaker 1: and the length to be able to do it, but

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Speaker 1: what are some of the challenges when you match up

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Speaker 1: against a guy like Brock Brock powers?

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Speaker 8: You know, I feel like some of it. Uh. You know,

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Speaker 8: obviously he's got pretty good size on him. You know,

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Speaker 8: he's he's fast for his size.

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Speaker 9: Uh.

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Speaker 8: And he creates separation at a high rate. So you know,

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Speaker 8: I think he's a jack of all trades and you're

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Speaker 8: ready to see that out of a tight end. Uh,

599
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Speaker 8: he's basically like a Hu mccorn at least a threat.

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Speaker 8: You go, you can line them up.

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Speaker 9: You can line them up.

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Speaker 8: Out wide on the perimeter, and he's not afraid to

603
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Speaker 8: you know, get dirty in there. You know, he's not

604
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Speaker 8: afraid to block and help his team win at a

605
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Speaker 8: high level. So obviously he's talented, and I think he's

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Speaker 8: the Damnard so.

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Speaker 1: Far at tight end passer Dan joining us last couple

608
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Speaker 1: here for you man, So you guys are here in

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Speaker 1: those last four games.

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Speaker 2: I know we're focused here on the Packers game, but is.

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Speaker 4: There something too needing to tune up things for the postseason?

612
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Speaker 4: Like are is there a little bit of a mindset

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Speaker 4: of like, okay, now we need to play a certain

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Speaker 4: way or get ourselves ready mentally as we go into

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Speaker 4: the stretch run for what is going to be obviously

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Speaker 4: playoff caliber football in just a month.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think in order to establish ourselves and you know,

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Speaker 8: make ourselves that type of team in the playoffs, either

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Speaker 8: the type of games we need, you know, those pre

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Speaker 8: tune up games. And I feel like, you know, why

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Speaker 8: not when I show who we are right now at

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Speaker 8: this moment, at this stage.

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Speaker 9: You know, we got toward games left, you know what.

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Speaker 8: I mean to make all mark going into the playoffs,

625
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Speaker 8: and obviously we were chasing that number one seed because

626
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Speaker 8: that's fight that's very very important, especially initially get a

627
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Speaker 8: home fit advantage. So you know, I think this is

628
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Speaker 8: a perfect opportunity to show the world you know, who

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Speaker 8: we truly are.

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Speaker 9: And obviously you know, people still.

631
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Speaker 2: Got in us.

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Speaker 8: But at the end of the day, that puts an

633
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Speaker 8: even greater tip on our shoulder to go out there

634
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Speaker 8: and improve them wrong. So I think this is our

635
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Speaker 8: chance to really, really, you know, put ourselves you know

636
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Speaker 8: what I mean in that category.

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Speaker 9: As far as the tournament goes.

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Speaker 2: So you're facing a pretty good quarterback in Jordan Love.

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Speaker 1: But I'm sure you spent all week going over the

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Speaker 1: film seeing what he does well, seeing where he might

641
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Speaker 1: be vulnerable with a guy like Jordan Love back there

642
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Speaker 1: and you're let's say you're in zone.

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Speaker 2: Are you watching his eyes?

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Speaker 1: I mean, does it help to to watch what he's

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Speaker 1: looking at? What are you looking at when it comes

646
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Speaker 1: to Jordan Love and what are some of his strengths?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, obviously he's very savvy. You can make

648
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Speaker 8: everything on the field.

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Speaker 9: I think it's a talent is you know, uh, top

650
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Speaker 9: of the top of the charge.

651
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Speaker 8: So he's pretty talented in that regard. And and so

652
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Speaker 8: far this year, you know, he's making consistent raids, making

653
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Speaker 8: the right throws, not turning the ball over, which you

654
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Speaker 8: want out of a quarterback.

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Speaker 9: So you know, he's he's playing pretty.

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Speaker 8: Good football right now. And I think defensively, you know,

657
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Speaker 8: being in his own uh, we just got to hit

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Speaker 8: our landmarks. Read the quarterback guys, and you know what

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Speaker 8: I mean.

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Speaker 9: You know, everybody got to do they one eleven at

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Speaker 9: the end of the day, because I feel like his.

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Speaker 8: Own defense, everybody gotta uh, you know, do their job,

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Speaker 8: you know, in different aspects of the defense, but you know,

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Speaker 8: you got to do at a high level. So obviously

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Speaker 8: we're gonna throw something zone in there as well.

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Speaker 9: So it's just gonna be one of those matchups.

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Speaker 8: Where we all got to be consistent in our jobs.

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Speaker 2: This question is from Nates. Hello, I have some good

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Speaker 2: question for you. First question is what is your favorite coach?

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Speaker 2: Second question is who was your.

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Speaker 5: Best teammate in like funniness and stuff and like and

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Speaker 5: like mentally preparing themself.

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Speaker 9: Okay, okay, I like those questions, Nate.

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Speaker 8: First question, my favorite color, see, it varies a lot

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Speaker 8: of seasons. I feel like, like this winter season, my

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Speaker 8: favorite color is like beige in a way, I've been

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Speaker 8: winning out of beige tan. So I'll definitely say that.

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Speaker 8: Sometimes it be brown black, you know. So you know,

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Speaker 8: I got a variety of.

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Speaker 9: Different colors that I like.

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Speaker 8: Favorite teammate I'll definitely say Kareem Jackson. You know he's

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Speaker 8: a og. Obviously, I know Kareem. He's he's been been

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Speaker 8: in his league for a while. I had the opportunity

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Speaker 8: to play with him, and now he's a funny dude.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 8: He's a jokester, but he's a leader at that and

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Speaker 8: you know when he's when he's on the field, it's

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Speaker 8: pretty inspiring to watch because he give it. You know,

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Speaker 8: it's all one hundred percent and uh, you know, to

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Speaker 8: be under his wing was quite the honest. So, uh

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Speaker 8: there you're Gonnnate.

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Speaker 2: Do you ever make an appearance on kjack TV?

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Speaker 8: I think one episode I did.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, Uh, it is pretty funny for sure.

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Speaker 2: Tell me a very funny guy. All right, Well, hey,

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Speaker 2: best of luck on Sunday. Always great, Pat, really appreciate

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Speaker 2: the time. Thank you.

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Speaker 9: Thank you all right, wele checking.

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Speaker 2: With the next week. Passer Tan always great now redesigned

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Speaker 4: So we have presets and you said KWA sports as

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Speaker 4: a preset. Well, you never missed an episode of the show.

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Speaker 4: Somebody asked, where's Dave. Dave is not here today.

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Speaker 1: He will be back with us on Monday, of course,

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Speaker 1: doing the game with us on Sunday, but needed today.

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Speaker 4: So we're giving it to him. Five six six Nighting

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Speaker 4: zero though is our Kae Comma spirit heal text line.

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Speaker 4: If you want to react to anything that we were

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Speaker 4: talking about here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, somebody pointed out a good call.

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Speaker 4: By the way, good recall Ryan is Kajax a little buddy?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so very quickly, side story, I was due.

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Speaker 4: We used to do a Broncos TV show at the

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Speaker 4: Broncos facility, Benjaminal Bright Eye, and one time we did

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Speaker 4: an episode where we were talking about Kareem Jackson coming back,

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Speaker 4: and I thought I was being very complimentary Ben.

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Speaker 2: Not so much because that's who Ben is.

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Speaker 4: His wet blanket by the way, Happy birthday, Bend as

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Speaker 4: I'm talking trash about you, But Ben was not very

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Speaker 4: complimentary of Kaream Jackson. And where he was at in

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Speaker 4: his career and his abilities and so on and so forth. Well,

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Speaker 4: Kaream Jackson saw the video, ooh, was not impressed, and

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Speaker 4: he tagged Ben and called me.

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Speaker 2: You and your little buddy. I was.

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Speaker 4: I was a little buddy there for about a year

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Speaker 4: with Kaream Jackson, which was well, it was a little

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Speaker 4: bit of a bubber because I've met him several times.

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Speaker 2: I've interviewed him several times, and.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, I'm not saying we hang out and

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Speaker 1: split a planet of wings.

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Speaker 2: Or anything, but you know who he is. Fine, No,

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Speaker 2: You're all just sort of the same guy. We are.

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Speaker 4: We all do I understand media members, That's what I mean.

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Speaker 4: Media members, all of them like yeah, yeah, generic. Is

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Speaker 4: it like, do you ever feel a little weird, like

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Speaker 4: thinking that maybe some of these guys are in their

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Speaker 4: cars on the way home listening to you critique them

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Speaker 4: and their profession, their passion, the thing they were born

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Speaker 4: to do, that God put them on this earth to do,

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Speaker 4: and that they've trained their entire lives to do and

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Speaker 4: focus all their energy on.

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Speaker 2: And then and then they hear that it's just not

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Speaker 2: good enough.

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Speaker 4: You know what, It's a good. It's a good question,

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Speaker 4: it really is. And I do think there are some

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Speaker 4: media members. I won't say any specific names, I do

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Speaker 4: think there's some media members that treated as though they

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Speaker 4: could care less. Right, Hey, whether you listen to me

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Speaker 4: or not, I'm going to say what I think is

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Speaker 4: the truth. And and sometimes it sounds personal, like it

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Speaker 4: sounds like do you really not like this player? Like

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Speaker 4: the way you're critiquing them sounds like you hate that

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Speaker 4: person as an individual, not just their player. For me,

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Speaker 4: I was from from multitude of hosts that I worked

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Speaker 4: with early on. If you treat it with respect, if

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Speaker 4: you critique the game and not the player, like if

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Speaker 4: you could critique like the way that it was the

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Speaker 4: act was performed, rather than like some kind of disrespectful

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Speaker 4: way that they performed, you know. Like I think if

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Speaker 4: you don't make it personal, then I generally think that

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Speaker 4: we can have a conversation. Like if patser Tan's on

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Speaker 4: here and he had a tough game, well, I imagine as

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Speaker 4: a professional he could say I had a tough game, right,

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Speaker 4: and we can talk about him having a tough game.

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Speaker 4: But if I go at him and say, well, I

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Speaker 4: think you're a trash player, which obviously Pat's not, but

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Speaker 4: sometimes we get that in the media. Then I think

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Speaker 4: that sounds very personal. Does that make sense? Oh yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 1: I mean there's players are used to being critiqued because

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Speaker 1: they do it every day. You know, at practice, they're

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Speaker 1: critiqued more rigorously than we do here on the radio

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Speaker 1: because they're watching it on film. I mean, every move

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Speaker 1: they make on the practice field is being videotaped, and

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Speaker 1: then after practice, the coaches go watch it first, make

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Speaker 1: all their notes, and the notes are where you messed up,

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Speaker 1: not where you did well. And so then you go

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Speaker 1: watch it with the coaches and they let you know

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Speaker 1: exactly where you messed up and why. And there's a

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Speaker 1: laser pointer on your body in super slow mo on

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Speaker 1: that big screen.

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Speaker 2: There's nowhere to hide from that, So it's you have

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Speaker 2: to have thick skin there.

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Speaker 1: I think what players find challenging as far as accepting

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Speaker 1: the criticism for media members as people who they don't

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Speaker 1: think understand what they're saying. They don't you don't know

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Speaker 1: what you're talking. I'm not talking about you, but a

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Speaker 1: lot of times, like you know, PFF for example, and

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Speaker 1: and I'm and I'm sorry Zach to.

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Speaker 2: Say this, but yeah, but you're an advance and guy,

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Speaker 2: you know it.

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Speaker 1: But those guys they don't always know what they're looking at,

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Speaker 1: and so they great they grade players based on incomplete

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Speaker 1: information that they have because they're not in the meeting.

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Speaker 1: They don't know how they're being taught. Now, certainly, sometimes

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Speaker 1: you know, you can see a tackle get beat for

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Speaker 1: a sack and so you dging him right. But maybe

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Speaker 1: the tackle thought he was going to have a chip

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Speaker 1: from their running back and that's why his leverage was

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Speaker 1: the way it was, and that's why you opened the

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Speaker 1: gate like that, because he thought he.

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Speaker 2: Was gonna have somebody.

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Speaker 1: So, you know, Sean Payton came in here after and

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Speaker 1: we were talking about Nathaniel Hackett earlier and the mess

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Speaker 1: he made. Sean Payton came in here and talked about

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Speaker 1: how it's really hard to evaluate the team from last

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Speaker 1: year because we don't know what they were being taught.

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Speaker 2: We don't know what they were supposed to do.

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Speaker 1: It looks so crazy, So how can I evaluate your

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Speaker 1: performance but I don't even know what you were trying

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Speaker 1: to do for