1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: It's Nice Eyes with Dan Ray. I'm doing you easy 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: Bondon's News Radio Bore. 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 2: We'll have a great one tonight, that's for sure. My 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 2: name is Dan Ray. Back after a night off, I 5 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 2: will talk to you more about that later. 6 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 3: Had a great night Friday night. 7 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 2: We had a reunion for people who worked at WBZ 8 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 2: Television WBZDB Channel four as I did. 9 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 3: During the nineteen eighties. 10 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 2: A lot of familiar faces, people who hadn't seen in decades, 11 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:31,479 Speaker 2: and it was just like it was better than any 12 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 2: reunion I've ever been to, let me put it like that. 13 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 2: We had a ball big thanks to former news director 14 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 2: Peter Brown and as Simon desk leader Bob Males, who 15 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 2: did a great job, as well as others Pat Craig 16 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 2: or Paula Palao did a great job in organizing the event, 17 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 2: and we'll give some details on it later on. There's 18 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,599 Speaker 2: some pictures posted at Nice Side with Dan Ray if 19 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 2: you'd like to see some of the folks who used 20 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 2: to see on television, and they remarkably have changed very 21 00:00:58,840 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 2: little over the years. 22 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 3: My name is Dan Ray. 23 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 2: I'm now the host of Nightside, heard every Monday through 24 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 2: Friday night from eight until midnight. And we start off tonight. 25 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 2: No phone calls this hour, but we're going to start 26 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 2: off with a really interesting story that I read in 27 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 2: the Boston Globe. It was in early August, as a 28 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 2: matter of fact, about the last one room schoolhouse in Massachusetts. 29 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 2: It's mostly empty. It's out on Cutty Hank Island, and 30 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 2: it just cannot be closed. Even though I would say 31 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 2: they have a paucity of students right now, they actually 32 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 2: have no students enrolled. And with us as the school 33 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 2: district superintendent and the sole employee on Cutty Hank Island, 34 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 2: as I understand it, doctor Margaret Friswick, Doctor Friswick, welcome 35 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 2: to Nightside. 36 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 4: Thank you for having me. 37 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 2: Did I mispronounce your name? It's Freezewick, I'm told in 38 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 2: my ear. Is that the correct pronunciation? 39 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 5: That is correct? 40 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 2: Okay, well we'll try to keep that right that I 41 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 2: try to pronounce people's names correctly. So how long has 42 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 2: this one room schoolhouse, which is such a such a 43 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 2: romantic concept for so many people who are educated in 44 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,839 Speaker 2: one room school houses around the country. Few of these 45 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 2: days that in the past. But how long has the 46 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:25,679 Speaker 2: school which is still it's not operating, but it's available 47 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 2: why don't you first all explain the sort of limbo 48 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 2: this structure is in. 49 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 5: Sure, I'd be happy to and thank you for your 50 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 5: interest in our work out on Cuddy Hunk. 51 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 2: I thought it was a great I used to look 52 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 2: out on Cuttyhunk Cutty Hunk Island. I actually know where 53 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,959 Speaker 2: it is, and why did you explain this geography? It's 54 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 2: off the coast of Martha's Vineyard, if I'm not mistaken. 55 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 4: That is correct. 56 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 5: So Cuddy Hunk is located. It is one of the 57 00:02:53,720 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 5: Elizabeth Islands, approximately small twenty small islands institutes the town 58 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 5: of Gosnold, the outer edge of Buzzard's Bay, north of 59 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 5: Martha's Vineyard and southwest from Cape Cod. So the island 60 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 5: that we're talking about with the schoolhouse is the public island, 61 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 5: along with Pennekeees. Cuddy Hunk and Pennekeees are the two 62 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 5: public islands, and the others are privately owned by the 63 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 5: Ford's poor family. The ones that probably are most known 64 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 5: to people might be Naushon, which is readily available by 65 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 5: a private ferry off the coast of Woods Hole. Nashawena 66 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 5: is another one of the privately owned islands. Pask So 67 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 5: we are that string of islands. If you look at 68 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 5: a map off the coast of Woods Hole on Cape Cod. 69 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 2: Probably looks like the Antilles somewhere in the Caribbean, but 70 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 2: it's actually right off the coast of Massachusetts. 71 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 3: Now County Hunk. 72 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 2: Are the people who still live year round on Cuttie Hunk? Oh? 73 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 5: Yes, there's approximately twenty year round residents that are on 74 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 5: the island. It swells to about four hundred in the summer. 75 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 2: How do the people who are there doctor? How do 76 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 2: they survive in the wintertime? 77 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 3: Meaning how do they get groceries? 78 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 2: Or how I assume there's no grocery store on that 79 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 2: island with only twenty people. 80 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 5: There is no grocery store, there's no restaurant. They often 81 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 5: will many of them own their own private boats and 82 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 5: go off island and shop in New Bedford. For example, 83 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 5: the ferry that leaves out of New Bedford in the 84 00:04:53,800 --> 00:05:00,040 Speaker 5: winter leaves on Monday and Friday, and families on the 85 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 5: island that are looking for groceries might do pea pod 86 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 5: and have their groceries delivered to the ferry docks and 87 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 5: then brought over to Cuddy Hunks. 88 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 3: All right, well, let's talk about the school. 89 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 2: The last students who were in the school I believe 90 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 2: graduated in twenty nineteen. That's before COVID. If I recalled 91 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 2: the article correctly, that is correct. 92 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 5: We are there were a sister brother team graduated in 93 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 5: twenty eighteen and then twenty nineteen. But during COVID the 94 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:41,799 Speaker 5: schoolhouse became quite active, and that was between twenty twenty 95 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 5: and twenty twenty one where we had eight students representing 96 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 5: five families who opted to declare residency on the island. 97 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 5: Oh okay, we were the only schoolhouse in the Commonwealth 98 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 5: that had face to face education one hundred percent. 99 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 2: Okay, So those students did not graduate. But now with 100 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 2: COVID or the concerns about COVID in some quarters having evated, 101 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 2: the school is without students. 102 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 3: But you have. 103 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 2: To keep it, as I understand the article. You have 104 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 2: to keep the school district in effect, open and ready 105 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:26,679 Speaker 2: to go into active mode. If let us say someone 106 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 2: moved onto the island or someone rented one of their 107 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 2: homes to a family with school. 108 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 5: Kids, that's accurate. We're a town where the town of 109 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 5: God's and old and we have to educate children when 110 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 5: they reside in our community. And so the schoolhouse, which 111 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 5: is a one room schoolhouse. I call her the Grand Dame. 112 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 5: She's one hundred and fifty years old. She is ready 113 00:06:54,480 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 5: to accept students should they move onto Cuddy Hunk or 114 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 5: any of the islands. Actually it's not just Cuddy Hunk, 115 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 5: it's the town of Gosnold, So we would be educating 116 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 5: if anyone moved to any of the other islands, it 117 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 5: would be a tough Cutting Hunk. 118 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 2: It would be a tough commute for any students who 119 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 2: are on the other islands. I assume to get well back. 120 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 5: She's done it, and it's done by boat. If you 121 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 5: think about transporting children in a typical situation, you transport 122 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 5: them by bus. We happen to transport by boat. If 123 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 5: students were to reside on any of the other islands. 124 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 5: On Cutty Hunk, obviously children walk to school because it's 125 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 5: a relatively small island. 126 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 2: So let me let me ask you this, because I'm 127 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 2: sure my audience is thinking this thought and that. 128 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 3: Is at its height. What were the most. 129 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 2: Number of students and in what era were the most 130 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 2: number of students you know, in the school being educated 131 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 2: in any one or two school years. I'm just was 132 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 2: it at its height during World War Two or give 133 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 2: us an idea. I'm sure you must have those statistics. 134 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 3: In your mind. 135 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 5: It was, Yeah, it was before my time. Of course, 136 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 5: I started in twenty fifteen as their part time superintendent. 137 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 5: Prior to that, My understanding is there were at times 138 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 5: eight students that were children obviously on the island of 139 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 5: Cuddy Hank that attended. So it was during a period 140 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 5: of time excuse me, where the island had many more 141 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 5: year round residents in there. 142 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 2: Do you recall approximately what time, what year that was, 143 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 2: or what decades? 144 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't have those dates, but I know the children, 145 00:08:55,520 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 5: the adults that were educated at the time, our adults 146 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 5: that are in their forties early sixties. 147 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 2: Well, this could have been relatively recently. Yeah, well, how 148 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 2: do the calculation for you? It sounds to me like 149 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 2: you could have been sometime in the early eighties if 150 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 2: they were in elementary school. That's very that's very conceivable. Boy, 151 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 2: that's great. And when you had eight students, you almost 152 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 2: had enough for a baseball team. Well you had enough 153 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 2: for a basketball team? Well, thanks very much. It's fascinating. 154 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 2: Is there any other school anywhere in the country that 155 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 2: you know of that is currently in a I don't know, 156 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 2: I'll call it a state of suspended animation, ready to 157 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 2: go at a moment's notice, but currently is not in 158 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 2: active operation. Or is this the only one as far 159 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 2: as you know? 160 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 5: It's the only one as far as I know. We 161 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 5: have relationships with some of the island schools up the Maine, 162 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 5: and those schools are operational with student but a very 163 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 5: very small enrollment. 164 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 2: All right, well, doctor Freezwick, thank you very much, lovely 165 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 2: to talk with you, and I'm sure that you could 166 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 2: get that school up and operational at a moment's notice. 167 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for spending some time with us tonight. 168 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:17,239 Speaker 2: It was a fascinating conversation. 169 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 4: My pleasure. 170 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 2: All right. Will we get back when we talk about 171 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 2: a more serious issue, and that is the risks of 172 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 2: lithium ion batteries. 173 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 3: Stay with us. 174 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 2: My name is Dan Ray and this is a Monday 175 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:31,199 Speaker 2: night edition of Nightside. 176 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 3: We have just begun. 177 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: It's night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's News Radio. 178 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 3: Delighted to be joined by Tom Lyons. 179 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:44,719 Speaker 2: He's director of Communications at the National Fire Prevention Association. 180 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 2: We're going to talk about everything from phones cell phones 181 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 2: to power tools and the risk of lithium ion batteries. 182 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 2: As I read this material, I'm a little freaked out here, Tom, 183 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 2: How are you tonight? 184 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 4: We don't want you to be freakd there. 185 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's National. 186 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 2: Fire Prevention Week on October from October fifth to the eleventh, 187 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 2: and Tom, I worked as a television reporter and I 188 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 2: covered a lot of really bad fires in that role, 189 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 2: including the Station nightclub fire and Rhode Island that has 190 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 2: nothing to do with you know, lithium ion batteries, but 191 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 2: one hundred people lost their lives there. I covered the 192 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 2: fire and Worcester back in ninety nine that took the 193 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 2: lives of five Worcester firefighters. So I'm very concerned about fires, 194 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 2: and I'm concerned about the laptop computers in the city, 195 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 2: on my desk, my cell phone. How much of a 196 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 2: threat is this in reality? 197 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 4: Well, you know, you bring up a really good point, Dan. 198 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 4: I mean, fire is still a problem in this country, 199 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 4: which a lot of people might not think about. We'd 200 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,319 Speaker 4: lose on an average several thousand people a year to 201 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 4: fire still in this country, and it gets worse as 202 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 4: technology grows. Right, because this technology, especially around batteries is great. 203 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 4: You know, most of the time, they're safe, but there's 204 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 4: always inherent risks to new technology. And you know, this 205 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 4: year's fire prevention theme is charging to fire Safety, and 206 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 4: we're really focused on these lithium ion batteries because they're everywhere. 207 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 4: You know, if it's if you're recharging something, and we 208 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 4: all do, it's probably got a lithium ion battery in it. 209 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 4: So it's phones, tablets, everything you mentioned, cordless vacuums, e 210 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 4: bikes and scooters which we're seeing all over our roads 211 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 4: right now, power tools. The list goes on again. 212 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 3: So what what could people do too? I mean I 213 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 3: very rarely. What, Oh, I leave my. 214 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 2: Phone on overnight? Is that a mistake? I mean, you 215 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 2: know I have a charge because. 216 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 4: Huh yeah, it is a mistake. And I mean, so 217 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 4: the first thing that people should know is, you know, 218 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 4: here's here's when the problems arise. If there's a you know, 219 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 4: if you drop your phone or your computer and there's damage. 220 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 4: If they're overcharged or if they're improperly used, they can overheat, 221 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 4: they can catch fire, and because of this thing called 222 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 4: thermal runaway, which is a chemical thing that happens in 223 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 4: the battery, they can even explode. And so what we 224 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 4: tell people to keep safe with these devices that you 225 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 4: know are you know we love and use so much 226 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 4: is first, buy safe, So you want to buy a 227 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 4: device with a safety certification from a nationally recognized lab. 228 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 4: So a lot of people would recognize ul as stamped 229 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 4: on the on the on the back of the device. Faith. 230 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 4: So you only want to use the charger that came 231 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 4: with the device, and that's the one that's usually approved 232 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 4: by the manufacturer. Kind of expensive, so if people lose one, 233 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 4: they'll often get a knockoff or grab one at the 234 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:58,559 Speaker 4: corner store. Those aren't ones you should use. You really 235 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 4: use the manufacturer charger. And you never want to charge 236 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 4: on a soft surface, like to have your phone in 237 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 4: your bed or on a couch. You want to make 238 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 4: sure it's a hard flat surface. 239 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 2: That I do, yeah, that I do on a table, 240 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 2: but how much Okay, look, I'm gonna I'm gonna learn, 241 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 2: which is the great part of the up my job. 242 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 2: I learn every night. Okay, when I go to bed 243 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 2: at night, I turned my phone on on some mot 244 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 2: mute because I don't want to try to be woken up. 245 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 2: But at the same time I like to have it on. 246 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 2: So you're telling me I should not have it. 247 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 3: On at night. 248 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 4: The tagest thing that you can do is once it's charged. 249 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 4: Once you got that thing fully charged, you know, at 250 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 4: one hundred percent, unpugged the charger, so you can still 251 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 4: have the phone on, but don't leave it plugged in overnight. 252 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 2: Oh okay, what about your laptop. 253 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 4: I mean I have a laptop, same thing, you know, 254 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 4: the same thing. You don't want it. You know, like 255 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 4: a lot of these devices, as we'll tell you, they 256 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 4: have smart batteries that will turn off the charging. Don't 257 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 4: take the risk just when you have a fully charged device, 258 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 4: unplug it. 259 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 2: So you say unplugged, it's it's not enough to just 260 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 2: turn it off. So when I finish with my laptop, 261 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 2: I use my laptop and my show here. 262 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 3: And it's it's it's worked. It works throughout the day 263 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 3: with me. 264 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 2: But I do shut my laptop off, but I don't 265 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 2: go and unplug it off. 266 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 4: Unplug it unplugged, once it's charged, unplugged. That's the safest 267 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 4: way to deal with any device. The third thing that 268 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 4: we really want people to know, Dan is don't throw 269 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 4: when you've got a device that you're ready, you know, 270 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 4: to get rid of you got a lithium ion battery 271 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 4: that you want to get rid of, do not put 272 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 4: it in the trash or in your recycling bin. They 273 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 4: can start fires, and they often do when they get 274 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 4: into wet stream, whether in garbage trucks or in right 275 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:00,080 Speaker 4: recycling centers. They're very tough fires to put out, so 276 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 4: we want to make sure that you bring them to 277 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 4: a recycling location in your community. And if you don't 278 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 4: know if one exists in your city or town, there's 279 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 4: a you can go to called call to recycle dot org. 280 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 4: So it's call see a l the number two recycle 281 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 4: dot org. 282 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 3: And the same with a with a desktop computer. 283 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 4: I assume, yeah, I mean there's there's lots of places 284 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 4: where you can. Usually cities or towns will have some 285 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 4: kind of a program where they'll take your e waste in. 286 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 4: They might schedule a day, so you really want to 287 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 4: look into that. 288 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 2: It's well, you know, my question was on the overnight. 289 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 2: So for example, you know I have a desktop and 290 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 2: a laptop. The desktop stays plugged in. I always turn 291 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 2: it off, but you're saying I should unplug it as well. 292 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 4: Not and if it doesn't have a lithium ion battery, 293 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 4: your stays. So desktop, if it's got a battery in it, 294 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 4: if it's got a lithium battery, and those are the 295 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 4: ones you don't. 296 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,199 Speaker 2: Want to how do you even know? I mean, let 297 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 2: me ask you this. I have a Verizon phone. Am 298 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 2: I assuming that that has if it's a if it's 299 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 2: a cell phone, it's a smartphone, it's a. 300 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 4: It's you know, you can assume you can safely assume 301 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 4: there's a lissium I AM battery. 302 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 2: What about in an Apple Mac desktop? 303 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 4: Well, if it's a desktop computer and it's not a 304 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 4: laptop that you charge, if it's a desktop computer, it 305 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 4: probably doesn't. 306 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 2: Have a Okay, gotcha? Okay, Well Tom, this has been great. 307 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 2: I've learned a lot, and hopefully my audience has learned 308 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 2: a lot. I used to criticize my daughter, who's a 309 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 2: lot smarter than I am. She would have no I'm 310 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 2: serious when I say that. Believe me, she's smarter than 311 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 2: I am. And she would have her laptop charging overnight 312 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 2: on a on a living room couch, which you know 313 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 2: was you know, fabric, and I would say, you gotta 314 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 2: get it off the couch. Get it all. These are fine, 315 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 2: These are safe. So even though she didn't do it 316 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 2: in the house, did go on fire. I was actually 317 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 2: telling you the right thing because I just thought, hey, 318 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:11,199 Speaker 2: put it on a soft fabric that's in a like 319 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:14,360 Speaker 2: in a couch, and you're just asking for trouble. But she. 320 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,679 Speaker 4: I've had the same conversations with my kids, and what 321 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 4: I would tell you and your your listeners. If you 322 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 4: want a sense of what these fires that that are 323 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 4: where batteries are implicated, just google something litium ion battery fire. 324 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 4: They're really intense. Oh, they're much more intense than than 325 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 4: any other kind of fire. It's very difficult to put out. 326 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 4: So you just want to take these preventives. 327 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 2: Tom, If folks want to get some more information, do 328 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 2: you have a website we can direct people too in 329 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 2: this in this area. 330 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 4: Generally absolutely go to www dot FPW dot org. That's 331 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 4: for Fire Prevention Week. It's our super bowl. We love 332 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 4: to prevent any kind of home fires. 333 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 2: So go to FPW right and by the way, you 334 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 2: no longer need that www. 335 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:03,919 Speaker 3: Stuff. 336 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 2: Just FPW dot org. Fire Prevention Week October fifth to 337 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 2: the eleventh. Tom Lyons, thank you very much for your 338 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 2: information today. It's helping me, and if it's helping me. 339 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 2: It's helping a lot of my listeners. Thank you so much. 340 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 4: Great good talk to your. 341 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 2: Got the news at the bottom of the hour a 342 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 2: couple of minutes later that we'll come back and talk 343 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 2: about breast cancer and women. One in eight women will 344 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 2: during their lifetime be diagnosed with breast cancer, and this 345 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 2: is Breast Cancer Awareness Month. Very important to talk about 346 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 2: that issue. Going to talk with doctor David Cher He's 347 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 2: the director of the research Consortium at Find the Cause 348 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 2: Breast Cancer Foundation. Coming back right after the news at 349 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 2: the bottom of the hour. 350 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm WBZ Boston's News Radio. 351 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 2: All right, we're going to talk about a tough cancer, 352 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 2: and that's a cancer that affects men and women, but 353 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 2: pri merrily women. One in eight women will be diagnosed 354 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 2: with breast cancer in their lifetime. With us as doctor 355 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 2: David Shirp, he's director of the research Consortium and Find 356 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 2: the Cause of Breast Cancer Foundation. Doctor Scherer, welcome to 357 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 2: Night's Side. This is Breast cancer Awareness Month. Everyone should 358 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 2: be aware of this cancer. I was surprised. 359 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 3: To learn that not only obviously are. 360 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 2: The women primarily affected, but there are some men and 361 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 2: one in women will be diagnosed in their lifetime. And 362 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 2: there are over forty thousand estimated annual deaths that Phil's 363 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 2: Fenway Park every year. 364 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 3: That's a frightening number. 365 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 6: Yeah, all those numbers are absolutely correct, and then it 366 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 6: should be Friday. In addition to the forty thousand of 367 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 6: so they got to die every year, there's three hundred 368 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 6: and seventeen thousand or so they're diagnosed, which means that 369 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 6: one day they come home from the doctors to tell 370 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 6: their family of guess what I have breast can answer, 371 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 6: and then that completely completely changes their lives. 372 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 2: Okay, so let's let's talk about the chances of Let's 373 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 2: let's look at the positives. I assume that the survival 374 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:19,679 Speaker 2: rates of breast cancer are becoming bigger, are better over time. 375 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 2: That's an assumption on my part. 376 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 6: I sure, hope, I'm right, Yeah, that's absolutely correct. On 377 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,919 Speaker 6: the other side of it, the incidence of cancer breast 378 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 6: cancer has been increasing about one percent per year over 379 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 6: the last ten years or so, and in women, younger 380 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 6: women around age fifty or so at numbers one point 381 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 6: five percent increasing. In those diagnoses of breast cancers in 382 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 6: the younger women tend to be even more aggressive than 383 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 6: the ones diagnosed to some of the older women. So 384 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 6: something something's clearly going on here. 385 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 2: So is that foods were ingesting? Is it? What did 386 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:00,439 Speaker 2: they attribute to? Chemicals were being exposed to what? There 387 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 2: must be a couple of theories at. 388 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 6: Least, Yeah, there were theories. I mean, there's been several 389 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 6: computational analyzes and generally the consensus is that about eighty 390 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 6: five percent of cancers are caused by extrinsic factors. So 391 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 6: not bad luck, not some inherited gene, but something that 392 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 6: you've been exposed to the environment. Now, if you know, 393 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 6: when I ask people how many chemicals do you think, 394 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 6: let's say the EPA has registered in their database over 395 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 6: many years, then they'll guess a few hundred, couple ten pounds. 396 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:35,959 Speaker 3: I'm guessing a lot more than that. 397 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 4: Yep. 398 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 6: It's eighty six thousand man made chemicals are being used 399 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 6: in various industries, eighty six thousand, and those of those, 400 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 6: only two and a half percent has been tested to 401 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 6: see if they are carcinogenic, in other words, if they 402 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 6: can cause cancer. That leaves an awful lot of unknowns, 403 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 6: a lot of chemicals that were exposed to them. Each 404 00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 6: of us carried many of these things in our blood. 405 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 2: One other figure that was interesting was that, according to 406 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 2: the website Find the Cause, of those diagnosed with women 407 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 2: diagnosed with breast cancer do not have a family history, 408 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 2: Which is good news to people who do have a 409 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 2: family history because it would say to them, well, that 410 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 2: doesn't necessarily mean you're destined to have breast cancer. But 411 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 2: it's not good news to people who might take some 412 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 2: comfort in the fact that there isn't a history of 413 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 2: breast cancer within their family. 414 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly. Every pretty much everybody's at risk, especially if 415 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 6: you're exposed to many of the chemicals that are listed. 416 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 6: If people want to know about what those chemicals are, 417 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 6: they can go to the Find the Cause of Breast 418 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 6: Cancer Foundation website and they'll see how many chemicals that 419 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 6: you're exposed to in your everyday life they could be 420 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 6: contributing to this increase in cancer. 421 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 2: Okay, so let me ask you. Let me ask you 422 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 2: a couple of simple questions. What can women do? I 423 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 2: realized that if there is some chemical out there that 424 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 2: is really to be found out to be a cause 425 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 2: of breast cancer five or ten years from now, we 426 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 2: don't know. But what can women do to diminish the 427 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 2: chances of having a diagnosis of breast cancer. And for 428 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,199 Speaker 2: that matter, what can men do, because there are some 429 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 2: men who are diagnosed with breast cancer. 430 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a very famous case of Marines who went 431 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 6: through Camp Lea June and some very large percentage of 432 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 6: them without breast cancer, and that was because of contaminists 433 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 6: that we're in their drinking water. But pretty much every 434 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 6: person is it supposed to be during the day. So 435 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 6: women can avoid certain of buying certain products that have 436 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 6: flame retardants in them. Those are called tvdes, they're brominated, 437 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 6: it doesn't matter what call them, but they're known to 438 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 6: be to act a little bit like estrogen to the 439 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 6: hyperactivated growth receptor in breast cells, and those are very common. 440 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 6: There are many forms of storage for cooking food, like plastics, 441 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 6: they can take dispenal salates, all kinds of other things. 442 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 6: And pretty much everybody's heard about the forever chemicals in 443 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 6: the water. The piece as in the water. I would 444 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 6: say that what you can do, the easiest thing to 445 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 6: do is actually go to the rest of the can 446 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 6: breast find the cause Breast Cancer Foundation, and you'll look 447 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 6: at their educational components and you'll see a whole bunch 448 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 6: of personal care products, cleaning products, paper products, things like 449 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 6: that that you that you can avoid, and it isn't 450 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,439 Speaker 6: It's not like you can just the that you just 451 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 6: three hands up and go, well, there's so much of 452 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 6: the stuff around. 453 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 4: What am I going to do? 454 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 6: There's actually actions people can take to minimize their exposure 455 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 6: to these chemicals. 456 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 3: Okay, here's my last question. 457 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 2: A lot of these chemicals have been developed, you know, 458 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,679 Speaker 2: like various chemical companies. Everybody knows the name of the chemical, 459 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,919 Speaker 2: and I remember better living through chemicals for some of 460 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 2: the ads that I remember as a younger person by 461 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 2: some of these companies. Okay, has the incidence of breast 462 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 2: cancer in women? And I realized there may have been 463 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 2: a time one hundred years ago when the diagnoses were 464 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 2: not made as effectively. Has there been a substantial increase 465 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 2: in the percentage of women in America who are being 466 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 2: diagnosed with cancer in the twenty first century compared to 467 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,199 Speaker 2: let's say the mid twentieth or the early twentieth century, 468 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 2: And do such statistics even exist? 469 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 6: Absolutely short answer is yes, And the longer answer would 470 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 6: be yes, that not only has the incidents increased, but 471 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 6: there are many many studies that show an association between 472 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 6: exposure to particular environmental chem okay and the increased risk 473 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 6: of breast cancer. 474 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 2: Okay. I assume that is the answer because when you 475 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 2: say that there are eighty six chemicals out there, and 476 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 2: again I can remember ads on television. You're probably not 477 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 2: as old as I am, but the I remember the 478 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 2: the the ad interne intoning better, living better, living through 479 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:25,919 Speaker 2: through chemicals, and it was quite the quite the opposite 480 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 2: of that. I do appreciate your time, Dr David Share. 481 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 2: Is there a website? I know it's fine. The Cause 482 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,640 Speaker 2: of Breast Cancer Foundation want to give us the website 483 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 2: real quickly. 484 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 6: Sure, find the cause all one word with the BCS, 485 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 6: which stands for Breast Cancer Foundation. So find the Cause 486 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:49,239 Speaker 6: BCS one word dot org and you'll see what the 487 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 6: researchers are doing, and you'll see what the educational effort 488 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,679 Speaker 6: has been, and you'll see that there are many opportunities 489 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 6: to contribute here to help prevent breast cancer. 490 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. A lot of great information tonight, 491 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 2: and I hope my audience will take some of it 492 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 2: to heart and may change may save some people from 493 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,919 Speaker 2: being diagnosed. Thank you so much, doctor David. Sure, thank you, 494 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 2: appreciate it so much. 495 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:12,639 Speaker 3: Doctor, Thank you. 496 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 2: When we get back, we're going to talk with a 497 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 2: writer who wrote a piece in the Boston Globe last weekend. 498 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 2: It was an off ed piece in whether it's time 499 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 2: to move motorized vehicles out of bike lanes. We're going 500 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 2: to talk with Paul Paskin. Of course, my view is 501 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 2: it's time to move bike lanes out of Boston. But 502 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 2: we'll still have a very pleasant conversation with Paul Baskin. 503 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 3: Coming up on Nightside. 504 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 1: You're on night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's News Radio. 505 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 2: Delighted to be joined by Paul Baskin. He is a 506 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 2: writer who wrote a piece in the Boston Globe. I 507 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 2: believe it was on Friday. Am I correct on that, Paul? 508 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 4: I think it was about a week and a half ago. 509 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 2: Okay, well, I was at least I had the right 510 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 2: Well maybe it didn't even have the right month now 511 00:28:58,040 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 2: that I think about it. For some reason, I thought 512 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 2: it was recent than that. And he basically the piece 513 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 2: was time to move motorized vehicles out of bike lanes. 514 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 2: In the spirit of full disclosure, I'm in favor of 515 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 2: moving bike lanes out of Boston, Paul, Just so you know, but. 516 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 3: Obviously you've got a conflict here. 517 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 2: And pretty clear to me that you're an advocate of 518 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 2: bike lanes, but you want the bike lanes to be 519 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 2: restricted just to human powered bicycles. So what do we 520 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 2: do with the little mopeads and the scooters and the 521 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 2: e bikes, all of these little vehicles that have proliferated. 522 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 2: I know where you want to put him, and as 523 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 2: a motorist, I don't want any of them either. 524 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 3: Go right ahead, you can make your case. 525 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 4: Well, it's a really complicated subject. And yes, I mean 526 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 4: a lot of people are sort of in trouble understanding, 527 00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 4: and maybe my fault a little bit, but any even, 528 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 4: but it's complicated. Yeah, I think the think the really 529 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 4: answer is that we need to write size up based 530 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 4: on what people really want. And what we have in 531 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 4: this country right now is domination by cars. Because the 532 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 4: government funds funds the roads and funds them entirely for cars. 533 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 4: And because we have that environment, people aren't actually able 534 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 4: to freely choose the way of getting around them. That's 535 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 4: why this looks so complicated, because people look at it 536 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 4: from could I just interrupt it? 537 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 2: Could I just just interrupt it for one second. I've 538 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 2: driven a car all my life, and most of my 539 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 2: listeners have driven cars. We pay gas taxes when we 540 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 2: buy the fuel. As a matter of fact, in some 541 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 2: states should pay more for gas taxes than other states, 542 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 2: But in Massachues I think it's eighteen cents a gallon 543 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 2: when I last checked. We pay excise taxes. We use 544 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 2: our cars to get to work because many of us 545 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 2: live quite a distance from where we work. Some live closer, 546 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 2: so whatever, So those cars have become a necessity in 547 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 2: our life. There was a period of time about one 548 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty years ago, well we didn't have to 549 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 2: worry about cars. Was horse and buggies. So I just 550 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 2: want to defend the automobile drivers at this point who 551 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 2: really feel and I think I can speak for them 552 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 2: because I've done a number of shows on this, they 553 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 2: really feel pretty bedraggled. 554 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,719 Speaker 3: Right now. We stop at red lights. 555 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 2: A lot of the bicyclists blow through the red light 556 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 2: and police I've never seen him, very very very very few. 557 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 2: I almost killed a guy and I talked about this 558 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 2: last spring. I was on a street in Brighton and 559 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 2: I was at a red light, and I happened to 560 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 2: catch an older gentleman on a bike coming down and 561 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 2: he was moving pretty good, and when the light turned, 562 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:46,479 Speaker 2: I made sure that I looked. 563 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 3: If I had not looked, he never stopped. 564 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 2: He blew through the red light, and he either would 565 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 2: have crashed into the side of my car. So again, 566 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 2: if drive around with me and you'll see drive in 567 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 2: Harvard Square, see how many bicyclists go through red lights 568 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 2: compared to motorists. 569 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 3: Motorists don't go through right it's in Ard Square. 570 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 2: So go ahead. 571 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 3: I just wanted to the table. 572 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 4: The difference when a motorist goes to the red light 573 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 4: is it's endangering other people, and a bicycles does it, 574 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 4: it's endangering themselves. 575 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 2: Another thing to keep it could be endangering a pedestrians. 576 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 2: Come on, Paul, could be endangering a pedestrian, could be 577 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 2: endangering a mother with a baby carriage. Sure, I know 578 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 2: people who have been hit by bicycles. There have been 579 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 2: people who have been killed by people who've been hit 580 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 2: by bicycles. I'll admit not nearly as many die who 581 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 2: die in car accidents. We lose sadly. You know what 582 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 2: if it is thirty five thousand people here in automobile accidents. 583 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 2: But go ahead, I don't mean to drop that. 584 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 3: I want to hear you. 585 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 4: Well, that's the point, is what you're saying is that 586 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,719 Speaker 4: the numbers are vastly out of whack, that the danger 587 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 4: is far more posed by the car driver misbehaving than 588 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 4: it is a bicycles. The bicycles is generally endangering themselves. 589 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 4: And go back to your comment about gas tacks and 590 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 4: excise taxes. Yes, those those seats are paid, but they 591 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 4: don't come anywhere near the cost of building roads and 592 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 4: maintaining them. There was a study by Harvard University Research 593 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 4: a little while ago that found that the average family 594 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 4: in Massachusetts pays fourteen thousand dollars a year, fourteen thousand 595 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 4: dollars a year to subsidize car use, whether they even 596 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 4: use when or not. 597 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 3: So let me ask you this. 598 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 2: Let me ask you, how do I assume you don't 599 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 2: drive a car? 600 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 4: Right? 601 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 3: Or you don't have a car? You do? Good? 602 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 2: Okay, So you're you're in the group that you're indicting 603 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 2: here on my show, which is fine. But for people, 604 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 2: let's say who live in downtown Let's say we have 605 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 2: some people who live in downtown Boston, who live in 606 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 2: you know, the multimillion dollar condominiums. 607 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 3: They're doctors, lawyers or whatever. And they don't have cars. 608 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 2: And when they need a car, they rent a car 609 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 2: or they take an uber. Okay, how do you think 610 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 2: the groceries and the and the oil gets to the 611 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 2: to where they live. I mean, you know this whole 612 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 2: idea of trying to guilt trip the drivers that we 613 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 2: and we should do longer an hour in this ball, 614 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 2: and I'd be happy to do it with you. By 615 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 2: the way, the idea of guilt tripping people who are 616 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 2: driving cars. Roads are important. You want to get rid 617 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 2: of roads in this country. You want to go back 618 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 2: to dinas. 619 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 4: In this country. No intent to guilt trip anybody at all, 620 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 4: but so simply point out the simple fact that the 621 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 4: motors don't pay for the roads. 622 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 2: Well, yes we do, Yes, we do pay for the roads. 623 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,879 Speaker 3: The bike drivers do they pay gas? 624 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 2: The bicyclists do they pay gas taxes to drive their bikes? 625 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 4: No, they pay general taxation, general motoration, which cover which 626 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 4: covers the roads. The roads are paid for. The roads 627 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 4: are paid for primarily by general taxation, not by not 628 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 4: by not by car car drivers, not by the gas taxes, 629 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,880 Speaker 4: not by their exercise taxes. The roads are paid for 630 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,760 Speaker 4: by general taxation. So yes, bicyclists pay for the roads 631 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 4: very much. 632 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 3: They pay, they pay, they pay. 633 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,800 Speaker 2: They pay less for the roads because they're using whatever 634 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 2: people make in terms of their income taxes, their state 635 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 2: income taxes, and the federal income taxes. They go to 636 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 2: the transportation system. Everybody pays that, Okay, But what I'm 637 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 2: saying is if they're going to take a third of 638 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 2: Beacon Street or a third of Commonwealth Avenue and dedicated 639 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 2: to people, uh who are And by the way, it's 640 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 2: like twelve bicyclists. People call me all the time and 641 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 2: they tell me they're looking at traffic which is backed 642 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 2: up for blocks and there's four bicycles that go by. 643 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 3: You know, you're bison and how. 644 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 4: Many good, yep, good? 645 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 2: How much? 646 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 4: How how many people would use car roads if you 647 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 4: only gave them a half of a lane everywhere? Too? 648 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 4: I mean you're asking it from a from a perspective 649 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 4: in which the car drivers. 650 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 2: Think, I would think that your bicyclist would fill that 651 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 2: and that if you had that many bicyclists who were 652 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 2: using the bike lanes, you then would be arguing well, 653 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 2: the bike lanes are so crowded, it just shows there's 654 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 2: a greater need. 655 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 3: But there's no great need for bicycles. 656 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 2: First of all, you can't really ride bikes in Massachusetts 657 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:42,360 Speaker 2: if this is not Phoenix, Arizona, December January, February March. 658 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,319 Speaker 4: I mean you're talking about you. You also can't drive 659 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:46,839 Speaker 4: cars that you can't afford one, or if you're too 660 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:48,399 Speaker 4: young for them, if you have no other reasons too. 661 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,879 Speaker 4: So the argument that not everybody can ride a bike 662 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 4: in all circumstances also applies to cars too. 663 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 3: Why does it apply to cars? Cars? 664 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 4: You can't drive one if you're under eight, under sixteen, 665 00:35:58,200 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 4: and you can't drive one if you're too old to 666 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,240 Speaker 4: drive one, and you can't drive one for it's. 667 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 2: A small percentage of people who opt out at the 668 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,359 Speaker 2: and they opt out either by being opt out out 669 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 2: or opt out. 670 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 3: Let's do this ball. 671 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 2: I come on back and let me set up an hour. 672 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 3: Come on back for an hour some night. We'll take 673 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 3: phone calls. You can line up all the bike riders. 674 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 2: I've done this this story many, many, many times. And uh, 675 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 2: the problem is that this the bike lanes are there. 676 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 2: I say, leave everything, leave, leave the roads to the 677 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,399 Speaker 2: cars and give the bike lanes. We're never gonna we're 678 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:37,799 Speaker 2: never gonna get rid of the bike lanes, unfortunately, but 679 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 2: we'll we'll we'll have an hour and we'll take some 680 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 2: phone calls and we won't try to crunch it into 681 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 2: a relatively brief period of time. The piece which was 682 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 2: in the Globe is time to move motorized vehicles out 683 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 2: of bike lanes. And I want my listeners to find 684 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,919 Speaker 2: the Globe and reread that piece and come on back, 685 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 2: and I think we're gonna have a spirited. 686 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 4: Discussion start to us. Thank you, thank you, Thanks very much. 687 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 2: Paul, appreciate your kindness. We'll be back right after the 688 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 2: nine o'clock news. 689 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 3: I tried this thing. I feel very strongly about ladies 690 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 3: and gentlemen. 691 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 2: So anyway, when we come back right after the nine 692 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:18,319 Speaker 2: o'clock news, we're going to talk about the subjects of 693 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 2: the evening. And the first one up on the other 694 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 2: side is going to be what happened in the South 695 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 2: End over the weekend, Chaos in the streets, a police 696 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 2: car destroyed and I don't know that anyone's going to 697 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 2: pay for that at all. And we're going to talk 698 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 2: with Larry called around the president of the Boston Police 699 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 2: Patrolman's Association, and we'll have some spirited discussion on that 700 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 2: issue as well, back on Nights Out after this