1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: This is Football Men in the Nattie, brought to you 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: in part by Postman Law and Vice Skyline Chilly on 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: ESPN fifteen thirty to the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals. 4 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 2: J Morrison from Bengals Talk dot Com and The Growler 5 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 2: Podcast joins us on Thursdays at Buy Jay Morrison on Twitter, Jay, 6 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 2: have you enjoyed the twenty four hours or so of 7 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 2: psychoanalysis of Joe Burrow? 8 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 3: No, there's much more interesting things I think that we 9 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 3: could have talked about. But anything that guy does is news, 10 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 3: so you've got to react to it, all right. 11 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 2: What is the appropriate reaction to what Joe Burrow put 12 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 2: on display yesterday? 13 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 4: I don't know. 14 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, I was more taken aback by what 15 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 3: he said after. 16 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 4: The game Sunday and just kind of a flippant nature. 17 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 3: And you know that he's so uber intense and you 18 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 3: just expect him to be really really mad about the loss, 19 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 3: and that was he was joking and that hab a 20 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 3: cookie crumbles, that kind of stuff. 21 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 4: That was more concerning yesterday. 22 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 3: I mean, he did say it was personal and football. 23 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 3: I think people making nationally people are making too much. 24 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:18,919 Speaker 4: Out of it. Just assuming he's. 25 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 3: Had enough in Cincinnati once out. I think it sounded 26 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 3: like something's going on in his personal life, and we 27 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 3: know he doesn't like birthdays, and everybody was giving him 28 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 3: gifts and singing to him and making him feel uncomfortable 29 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 3: and just just the guy having a bad day. 30 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like birthday gifts, by the way. So here's 31 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 2: my next one question, and then this is the important one. 32 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 2: What's he buying the offensive lineman for Christmas this year? 33 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, we don't know yet. 34 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:48,559 Speaker 3: I think we'll find that out next week. But yeah, 35 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 3: that's a good question. It's gonna be hard to top 36 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 3: samurai swords. 37 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 2: It is definitely going to be hard to top samurai swords. 38 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 2: What is happening with t Higgins right now? 39 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, still going through the protocol. He was limited again today. 40 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 3: I just you know, when when these start stacking on 41 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 3: top of each other, you really get concerned. I no 42 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 3: one's told me anything, but I just I'd be surprised 43 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 3: if he plays this week. You need to take it, 44 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 3: you know, the more conservative, safer approach. Getting getting two 45 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,239 Speaker 3: head injuries in the span of three games, it's it's 46 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 3: not good, and you know, the it's going to be 47 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 3: freezing cold lower than freezing cold on Sunday. That turk 48 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 3: is going to be even harder. And I just I 49 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 3: think the smart thing to do, well we'll be too 50 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 3: to sit him out again. 51 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 4: He has to go, he has to go. 52 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 3: Through a full practice, non contact practice before you can 53 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 3: see the independent neurologist. 54 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 4: And he didn't do that. He was limited again. 55 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 3: Today, So I would say it's definitely trending towards him 56 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 3: not playing. 57 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 2: You've outlined this week how historically bad the Bengals are 58 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 2: against tight ends. It's worth noting Mark Andrews did pop 59 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 2: up on the injury report this week in Baltimore, and 60 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 2: so it's not that dissimilar from what we talked about 61 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:06,959 Speaker 2: going into the first time these two teams played, Where 62 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 2: you worry about the middle of the field. Is there 63 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 2: as obvious answer as the rookie linebackers can play better. 64 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 2: Is there anything Al Golden can legitimately do to fix 65 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 2: something that has been as bad as the Bengals have 66 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 2: been at covering the middle of the field, specifically against 67 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 2: tight ends. 68 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 3: No, I mean, you can't make these guys grow up 69 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 3: in a hurry. They're there that they believe they're getting better. 70 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 3: But it's incremental. They're not just going to be really 71 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 3: good and really aware overnight. And you know, part of 72 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 3: it is the aggression aspect, and they are they are 73 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 3: biting on play fakes and and really set to stop 74 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 3: the run. And that's going to be That was the 75 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 3: case with Buffalo, it's going to be the case again 76 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 3: with Baltimore. That maybe going man to man a lot 77 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 3: would maybe take care of some of that. But I 78 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 3: just I don't see that happening. I think they're just 79 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 3: going to have to live with it. And I don't 80 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 3: think that Bengal payers should be excited about the possibility 81 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 3: of Mark Andrews not playing because Isaiah Likely had a 82 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 3: ton of yards. He was more of the tired tight 83 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 3: end target than Mark Andrews was when they met on 84 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 3: Thanksgiving night. That just means more opportunities for him if 85 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 3: Andrews is out. 86 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 2: I'm trying to find something to be excited about. Jay, 87 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 2: So no, I'm not excited about Isaiah Likely, or Mark 88 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 2: Andrews or pretty much anybody else. Not a lot. All right, 89 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 2: you're the man, Thanks so much. 90 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 4: All Right, thanks Moe. 91 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 2: That's our guy, Jay Morrison, Bengals Talk dot Com and 92 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 2: Part of the Growler podcast on Twitter at by Jay Morrison. 93 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 2: I have gotten this back on time. We've got some 94 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 2: room at five one, three, seven, four nine, fifteen thirty. 95 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 2: I do have a bit of a question about the 96 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 2: Reds pursuit of a star. 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