1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm WBSY Foston's Radio. 2 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 2: All right, interesting our last hour which is Lle Bird. 3 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 2: And again, the whole idea in a situation like that 4 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 2: is to have someone on who you might agree with, 5 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 2: you might disagree with, but you can have a conversation 6 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 2: with him. And I think that the three female callers 7 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 2: Karen from North Endover, Marianne from Westwood and Iris from Norwood, 8 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 2: although two of them are very supportive and one different 9 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 2: on the issues, they comported themselves very well. So as 10 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 2: a consequence, we we're going to change topics here because 11 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 2: I think we had a good conversation and I I 12 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 2: think we will move on to a different topic which 13 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 2: which might be of interest. And that is what is 14 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:04,479 Speaker 2: going on tonight. President Trump has signed the legislation which 15 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 2: should prompt a release of all of the Epstein Epstein 16 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 2: email files past the House. I think the vote was 17 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 2: four twenty seven to one. There was one Republican congresswoman 18 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 2: from Louisiana who voted in the negative. Four hundred and 19 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 2: twenty seven overwhelming majority of both Democrats and Republicans said 20 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 2: release the emails. The United States Senate shortly thereafter, early 21 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 2: last night decided by unanimous consent not to even debate 22 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 2: the issue, but basically to approve it and send it 23 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 2: to the President's desk. And the President tonight has signed 24 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 2: this legislation, and I I think it's an interesting story 25 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 2: at so many levels. There is also to Night News 26 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 2: that the first person who has been truly impacted by 27 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 2: this his former US Treasurer Larry Summers, who, according to 28 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 2: the Associated Press tonight, is saying that he has abruptly 29 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 2: went on leave. Decided to take a leave Wednesday from 30 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 2: teaching at Harvard University, of course, where he once served 31 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 2: as president, over recently released emails showing that Somers had 32 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 2: maintained a friendly relationship with Jeffrey Epstein even after Epstein 33 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 2: became known in the public for what he was eventually 34 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 2: convicted for again, you know, basically dealing with young girls 35 00:02:55,840 --> 00:03:00,239 Speaker 2: and providing young girls. Now. At the same time, The 36 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 2: Boston Globe Today wrote a front page story in which 37 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 2: made the point that the Harvard probe did not note 38 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 2: a apparently a very significant gift that Epstein had. Maybe 39 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 2: he had made it. It's still unclear to me, but 40 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 2: apparently Epstein helped a pretty significant gift for Larry Summer's wife, 41 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 2: who was also at that point a professor at Harvard, 42 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 2: professor of in poet of poetry. And this just gets 43 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 2: deeper and deeper now a yet, I don't know what's 44 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 2: coming out in all of these emails. It's pretty clear 45 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 2: to me that the Democrats hope, hope that these emails 46 00:03:54,480 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 2: will point towards Donald Trump. I'm not sure that hope 47 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 2: is going to be fulfilled. And I think that when 48 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 2: these emails are released there may be some other prominent 49 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 2: names who find themselves in the middle of this mix. 50 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 2: Summers yesterday talked about he was He said he was 51 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 2: deeply ashamed of his actions. He didn't specify what he 52 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 2: meant by those actions, which I think was was interesting. 53 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 2: He did not specify that the the gift that apparently, 54 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 2: if not made by Epstein directly was set up by 55 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 2: by Epstein. So this this is going to get interesting, 56 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 2: and I think it's going to get really interesting for 57 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 2: a lot of people, maybe for the president, maybe not. 58 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 2: But I think that there, just as when the Me 59 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 2: Too movement began, there were a lot of people who 60 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 2: found themselves entrapped for things that they had said or 61 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 2: things that they had done. 62 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: It. 63 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:23,799 Speaker 2: It is a when you open up first of all 64 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 2: twenty thousand emails or whatever the number is. This guy 65 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 2: was a pretty prolific emailer Epstein. He was able to 66 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 2: ingratiate himself with well known and very successful people and 67 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 2: a lot of politicians we know that. You know, Prince 68 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 2: Andrew is probably the first casualty. You know, again, casualty 69 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:59,919 Speaker 2: not in the sense of either being directly indicted or 70 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 2: charged or convicted, but certainly his reputation in the reputation 71 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 2: of the family that he represented, is quite different now 72 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 2: than it was. There was an effort, obviously to protect him. 73 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 2: That effort failed miserably. I'm sure that Larry Summers five 74 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 2: or six years ago would never have imagined that he 75 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 2: would be in this position. And who knows, maybe Donald 76 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 2: Trump that there's emails here which will prove. My suspicion 77 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 2: is that a lot of these emails will be subject 78 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 2: to interpretation, and so far no one has come forward 79 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 2: and pointed a finger at President Trump to the best 80 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 2: of my knowledge, in regard to this, there certainly have 81 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 2: been other scandals that he has survived. So I'm just 82 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 2: going to open up the phone lines and give you 83 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 2: an opportunity to talk about this, because I think it 84 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 2: is the story of the day, and that's what we 85 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 2: try to do here at Night's side, We certainly do 86 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 2: try to deal with the stories of the day. Six one, seven, two, five, four, 87 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 2: ten thirty, six one, seven, nine, three, one, ten thirty. 88 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 2: Those are the phone numbers. If you are convinced that 89 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 2: this is the end for Donald Trump, fine, let's hear 90 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:22,239 Speaker 2: from you. If you were convinced that Donald Trump would 91 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 2: not have acquiesced to the release of these emails, fine, 92 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 2: If you are convinced that somehow Donald Trump has some 93 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 2: sort of scheme or plan to make sure that whatever 94 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 2: is released does not implicate him. I suspect there are people, 95 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 2: if they had an opportunity to sit down and read 96 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 2: every one of these last emails, would conclude that, just 97 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 2: like in the Kennedy assassination, where's the rest of it? 98 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 2: Where's the rest of it? Uh So, again, this is serious. 99 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 2: I don't want to in any way, shape or form 100 00:07:56,320 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 2: minimize this. Uh Epstein, Geffrey Epstein was a monster. He's 101 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 2: a monster, and the question, of course is how what 102 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 2: what can you believe from him? If you want to 103 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 2: say you're going to believe everything. That's fine if you're 104 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 2: going to say you're going to I think you either 105 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 2: have to believe everything or nothing. I don't think that 106 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 2: that a reasonable position. And this is a position I 107 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 2: want to flesh out a little bit tonight. I don't 108 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 2: think you can say, oh, I believe the emails about 109 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 2: personality A, B, and C. I believe, but I don't 110 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 2: believe that the emails about these personalities X, Y, and Z. 111 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 2: I think you either say this guy is unreliable, I 112 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 2: can't believe anything that he may have in there about 113 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 2: Donald Trump, Bill Clinton or whomever, or or conversely, you say, look, 114 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 2: these are contemporaneous emails, and this guy might be vile, 115 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 2: he evil, But why would he create emails in two 116 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 2: thousand and four or twenty ten or twenty and fourteen 117 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 2: that he could never have anticipated would be come get 118 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 2: into the public record twenty or more years later. Why 119 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:23,719 Speaker 2: would he do that if he was being disingenuous six one, seven, two, five, 120 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 2: four ten, thirty, six one seven, nine, three, one ten thirty. 121 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 2: All points of view are welcome. I'd like to test 122 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 2: my thoughts with yours. Just dial the number will be 123 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 2: right back on nightside. 124 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on w Boston's news radio. 125 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 2: By the way, just coming back to Larry Summers, just 126 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 2: to clarify associated prestonit is reporting the former US Treasurer 127 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 2: Larry Summers US Secretary of the Treasury, Larry Summers abruptly 128 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 2: went on leave Wednesday from teaching at Harvard University, where 129 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 2: he once served as president. He is also resigned from 130 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 2: a board that he sat on, an open AI. So 131 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 2: he's also has resigned today from Santander's advisory board. A 132 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 2: spokesperson said, that is a bank here in the US 133 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,959 Speaker 2: that is based in Madrid. So he's resigned from Santander's 134 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 2: international advisory board they currently chaired. I mean, he's resigning 135 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 2: for more things than any of us would ever imagine. 136 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 2: Just devastating to Larry Summers at this point. Also in 137 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 2: the Globe article today which talked about Harvard not mentioning 138 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 2: this this gift to his wife. In a twenty fourteen 139 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 2: outreach to Epstein, Jeffrey Epstein, Larry Summers's wife, who was 140 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 2: a poetry professor at Harvard, said Somers told her that 141 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 2: both Epstein and a friend wanted to donate to her work, 142 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 2: suggesting a half million dollar gift. She's quoted as saying, 143 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 2: hallelujah and thank you a million times, Jeffrey. She also 144 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 2: suggests that the money could be best directed through Harvard's 145 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 2: ed Labs initiative, especially given that your friend would like 146 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 2: this to be a Harvard gift. So the Globe has 147 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 2: done some work on this and some good journalism today. Uh, 148 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 2: and you can see the impact that it has had 149 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 2: on Larry Summers. I mean, this guy was the president 150 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 2: of Harvard now has resigned as a professor at Harvard, 151 00:11:56,080 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 2: and his wife, Professor Elisa knew An E. W. Prominent 152 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 2: Harvard poetry professor and wife of the university's former president, 153 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 2: sought the first line in the Globe story, sought a 154 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 2: major donation to enable her to expand her academic reach. 155 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 2: So let me go first off, I've got some open 156 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 2: lines here six seven two thirty six one seven nine thirty. 157 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 2: We are talking about what is likely to transpire in 158 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 2: the next few weeks. I mean, I think it is 159 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 2: fair to say that all the speculation about would Congress vote, 160 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 2: would Congress not vote, that is now a moot point. 161 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 2: They voted, the bill has been signed by the president. 162 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 2: I know that there are skeptics. But my suspicion, uh, 163 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 2: and call me, call me naive. My suspicion is that 164 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 2: there's a tremendous amount of pressure for all of this 165 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,839 Speaker 2: materials to be released. A lot of them have been 166 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 2: released already, but for everything to be released within the 167 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 2: next thirty days. Let me go to Lowland and in 168 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 2: San Diego, California. Lowland, welcome back. How are you hi, 169 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 2: Dan So? 170 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 3: I originally had wanted to make a comment about the 171 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 3: hour before you need to do a three hour on that. 172 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 3: First of all, please, well. 173 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 2: Again, you tried it. You try to do it, and 174 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 2: you try to do it in such a way that 175 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 2: that people feel welcome to have a conversation. It's a uh, 176 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 2: it's a sensitive subject and a controversial subject. It heard 177 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 2: the guy who did get on briefly, Uh, Jeff from Abington, 178 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 2: he called very briefly. I mean if if he he 179 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 2: waited no more than three or four minutes to get on, uh, 180 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 2: and he right away. 181 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 3: You had too many, You had too many ahead of me. 182 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 3: But I did call right away. My beef is what 183 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 3: There was a person there that said, you know, sis, 184 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 3: gender women, women born as women should not be playing 185 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 3: any any contact sport with a person who identifies as 186 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 3: a woman. And it's even though, let's get what I'm. 187 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 2: Trying to No, I know you have strong feelings on 188 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 2: this and I and I respect those feelings. But what 189 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 2: I'm trying to do is I'm trying to basically open 190 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 2: up a different hour of conversation. 191 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 3: I would Oh, no, I understand. I'm just asking you 192 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 3: bring that person back and let's have a three hour conversation. 193 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 2: Well, we'll see. I think she felt that she was 194 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 2: treated very respectfully. And again, yeah, these some I think 195 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 2: folks need to understand that putting a show together five 196 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 2: nights a week, four hours a night, is not an 197 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 2: easy task. It's it's not like walking downstairs in the 198 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 2: morning and turning on the coffee pot. Okay. Sometimes her 199 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 2: representatives reach out to me a couple of days ago 200 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 2: and I and they said, would you be willing have her? 201 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 2: I said absolutely, and and and she will be treated 202 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 2: with respect. That's that's that's how it transpired. Whether we 203 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 2: can do something in the future, we'll see. Do you 204 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 2: have a thought on Summer's resignation, because I'm getting close to. 205 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 3: Me he's running, Yes, he's running scared he's running scared, 206 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 3: and let's see who who else is going to stop resigning, 207 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 3: running or jumping out of the window and committing suicide. 208 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 3: It's coming. And here's why. Tonight is a new moon 209 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 3: and it's in Scorpio, and Scorpio brings the things that 210 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 3: are hidden and in the dark to the light. This 211 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 3: is all perfect night. 212 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 2: I don't know if it was Scorpio. You know much 213 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 2: more about astrology than I do. I admit that because 214 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 2: we've talked about it before. But what what has brought 215 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 2: this to light? What is what has brought this to 216 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 2: light tonight is the vote in Congress, And I also 217 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 2: think the public pressure, and I think that a lot 218 00:15:58,480 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 2: of that. 219 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 3: It happens, It happened, It happened today, and today is 220 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 3: the new moon. It's all timy as. 221 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 2: Gratified. I am gratified to know that without the new 222 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 2: moon this would not have happened. 223 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 3: So no, everything is timing, Dan, you know that timing. 224 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 3: Timing is everything. 225 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 2: You know, maybe maybe maybe the Congress without the new 226 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 2: moon never would have voted four hundred and. 227 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 3: Twenty seven to one exactly. 228 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 2: So maybe the new moon, as I think you believe, 229 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 2: basically turned everyone in the same direction. I can never remember. 230 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 2: Of four hundred and twenty, there's only four hundred and 231 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 2: thirty five members of Congress. I have never can remember. 232 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 2: Oh I'm sure there's some resolution that that was passed 233 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 2: at some point the name of post office after someone, 234 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 2: or to commend a Girl Scout troop for being the 235 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 2: top Girl Scout cookie sellers, But I can never remember. 236 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 2: So it must have been the full moon, Lola, and 237 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 2: I thank you. 238 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 3: No, it's not a full moon. It's a new moan. 239 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 2: Again, as I say, I'm stumbling through this astrology stuff 240 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 2: and I'm trying to learn. It's like I'm I'm drinking 241 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 2: from a fire hose here, Lola. I'm trying to absorb 242 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 2: it all quickly. 243 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 4: It's a miracle. 244 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 3: It's a miracle, is what I'm saying. Because it all happens. 245 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 3: We couldn't have planned this, That's the whole thing. 246 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 5: Who would have thought. 247 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 3: All of Congress would have The one thing I. 248 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 2: Have to plan, Lola, is I have to plan a newscast, 249 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 2: which is right now at dead thirty. So I'm glad 250 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 2: you got through. 251 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 3: I'm glad you use to. 252 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 2: Say whatever you wanted to say, not only astrologically, but 253 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 2: also also from the issue in the previous hour. And 254 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 2: I only gave you that freedom at Liberty because you're 255 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 2: such a nice person. So thanks lod, Thank you. 256 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 3: I appreciate that. I appreciate that. Thank you, Dan. See 257 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 3: you on the other side. 258 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 2: And the next time that I'm gonna I think invest 259 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 2: in some sort of business decision, I'm going to call 260 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 2: you for some astral logical advice. 261 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 3: Well, uh, you know what, we need to talk because 262 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 3: that's exactly how I sold my mother's house and got 263 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 3: the amount that I wanted. I'll explain it all of 264 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 3: you there. 265 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 2: It is another another proof that astrology is real. All right, 266 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 2: thank you all, have a great night. Congratulations. I think 267 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 2: I ended up cutting around, didn't cut you off intentionally. 268 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 2: All that we got to deal with the the news 269 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 2: at ten thirty. Okay, I do want to talk about 270 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 2: Donald Trump. I want to talk about Larry Summers, and 271 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 2: I want to I want to talk about what has 272 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 2: about to transpire. This could change the political landscape in 273 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 2: a whole lot of different directions, maybe not the direction 274 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 2: that that you think it will or that I think 275 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 2: it will. I'd love to get your reaction. Six one, seven, two, five, 276 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 2: four to ten thirty six, one, seven, nine thirty. Coming 277 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 2: right back on Nightside. 278 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio. 279 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 2: All right, welcome back then, very much, Dan Hawkins. So 280 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 2: I would like to talk about this huge story tonight, 281 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 2: the bill to release Thestein Epstein files. And I can 282 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 2: never understand if it's pronounced Epstein or Epstein. I don't 283 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 2: know for certain, so I'll stick with Epstein on it. 284 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 2: But I get it mixed up with THEO, not the activity, 285 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 2: but obviously the name. So look, what we know is 286 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 2: this guy's dead. So whatever he decided to have left 287 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 2: in his email accounts, it's there now. I want to 288 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 2: see it released. I want to see it released in 289 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:45,959 Speaker 2: its entirety. If there has to be a reaction of 290 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:49,199 Speaker 2: the name of a woman who at that point was 291 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 2: an underage young girl, then that makes all the sense 292 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 2: in the world. You simply redact that name if that individual. 293 00:19:56,560 --> 00:20:00,360 Speaker 2: There are some women who held the news conferences who 294 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 2: want to be known, and they want to basically provide 295 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:13,719 Speaker 2: testimony or whatever term they would use. The question is, 296 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 2: if there is nothing that is inculpatory of President Trump, 297 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 2: does the story simply go away? Or is the public 298 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 2: interested in the story above and beyond Donald Trump. Obviously, 299 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:40,679 Speaker 2: if there are emails which show President Trump, and I 300 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:44,439 Speaker 2: have not seen any indication of that, at least in 301 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 2: the emails that I've read about so far. And you 302 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 2: you know, and the way you read about the way 303 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 2: you do this is you read the newspapers that are 304 00:20:56,240 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 2: less supportive of Donald Trump. And if the New York 305 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 2: Times or the La Times, the Washington Posts of the 306 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:09,919 Speaker 2: Boston Globe hasn't found a quote unquote smoking gun on 307 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 2: Donald Trump, then so far probably it doesn't exist. Because 308 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 2: they have people who who can go through those emails 309 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,360 Speaker 2: a lot more quickly than you and I. We have 310 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 2: to rely upon them. Now, does the story go away 311 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 2: if there are no emails? Obviously, if there are emails 312 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 2: which tend to prove Donald Trump was involved in any 313 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 2: of this activity that Epstein engaged in and cultivated and 314 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 2: used used these young girls as a way to gain 315 00:21:55,920 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 2: friendship and support with political and business leaders, that's what 316 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 2: Epstein was doing. He was not He apparently had money 317 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 2: and had been able to earn money in the markets, 318 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:14,199 Speaker 2: in the marketplace, but he used these young women. And 319 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 2: I can't even say young women because they were girls. 320 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 2: They were fourteen fifteen, sixteen year old girls. He was 321 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 2: able to use them to create bonds of friendship with 322 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 2: influential men. Now he is no longer with us. Whatever 323 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 2: happened to him, whether it was suicide or whether it's 324 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 2: embedded suicide, he's gone. What is left are his emails. 325 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 2: Get him out, get them all out without exception, and 326 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 2: let the chips fall where they may. That is my position. 327 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 2: I would love to know what you think and will 328 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 2: you be as interacted in this story if it does 329 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 2: not implicate Donald J. Trump. I will be interested in 330 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 2: the story. If it doesn't implicate Donald J. Trump. I 331 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 2: want to know how many other men of power, political power, 332 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 2: business power ingratiated themselves with this pedophile or this this purveyor, 333 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 2: purveyor of of of young women. Let's go to the calls. 334 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 2: Let me go to Dick and Chelsea. Dick, welcome you 335 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 2: next on Nightside. Thank you for calling Instagram. 336 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 4: But first I wanted to tell you I think that 337 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 4: of all the various talk show hosts, you are the 338 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 4: most sane and well. 339 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 2: Thank you. I don't know if that's how high a 340 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 2: compliment that is, but thank. 341 00:23:56,520 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 4: You well, I mean yeah, I mean it bars you 342 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 4: a low bar. Right, Okay, here's here's my my thought. 343 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 4: I'm thinking about what President Trump has said and I 344 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 4: several months ago I remember him saying, and it you know, 345 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,479 Speaker 4: it was pretty widely spread. 346 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: It. 347 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 4: He he you know, ceized his friendship and me, and 348 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 4: he kicked Jeffrey Epstein out when Epstein had you know, 349 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 4: rated or poached. 350 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 2: I think I think the word poached is the word 351 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 2: he used. Actually, I think. 352 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 4: You're hired away one of the employees who later became 353 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 4: a victim. Today or yesterday, I heard President Trump say that, Yeah, 354 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 4: he got rid of Epstein because Epstein was a terrible guy. 355 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,360 Speaker 4: He was a pedophile. He was doing all these awful things, 356 00:24:55,840 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 4: and so Trump threw him out. So uh, yes, So 357 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 4: that's two different answers to the question. But if Trump, 358 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:07,360 Speaker 4: well that we can answer. 359 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 2: Just just for one second. I think you could reconcile 360 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 2: those answers if if if he thought the guy was 361 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 2: a pedophile and he was poaching some of his employees. 362 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 2: I think the the young woman that allegedly was poached 363 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 2: was the oneman named Virginia Guffrey. I believe that was 364 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 2: the name. Uh, there was actually a name attached to that. 365 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 2: So there was some specificity. I'm just trying to judge it. So, but. 366 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, there was. Yeah, I agree there was specificity, 367 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 4: Virginia do free. 368 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 2: Yes. 369 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 4: But my point is that if I heard I did 370 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 4: hear President Trump say this that you know he he 371 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 4: threw out Epstein because Epstein was such a terrible guy. 372 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 4: He was a pedophile, he was doing all these nasty things. 373 00:25:56,000 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 4: And if that's the case, then like others, President Trump 374 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 4: had knowledge of what was going on but never said 375 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 4: anything about it to anyone and did not report it. 376 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 2: Okay, So what you're saying he did not report it 377 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 2: to the authorities, to the police, is what you're saying 378 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 2: to me. Yeah, yeah, okay, that's that's a logical conclusion 379 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 2: of a logical So where does that take you? Does 380 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 2: that take you to the point that somehow, then Donald 381 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 2: Trump aided and embedded this guy. 382 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 4: Well not, It depends what you mean by aid it. 383 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 4: And no, it takes me the point that Donald Trump, 384 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,919 Speaker 4: like presumably like a lot of others, knew what was 385 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 4: going on and chose not to say anything. 386 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 2: Right. But okay, I think that's the first point. But 387 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 2: here's my question to you, what what should have Donald 388 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 2: Trump done at that point. 389 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,360 Speaker 4: He should have he should have reported to the to 390 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 4: the police, or the state police or the you know, 391 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 4: whichever police. He should have reported that here's this guy 392 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 4: on this island that's being a pedophile, that's you know, 393 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 4: peddling all these young women. 394 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 2: The island you're talking about, Lolita Island, the so called 395 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 2: Lolita Island, right right right right, as opposed to as 396 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 2: opposed to the to theft. I think he I think 397 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 2: Mari Lago was on I have I don't think I've 398 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 2: been to Mari A Lago. Okay, no, No, it's. 399 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 4: Just simply that, you know, President Trump says, I threw 400 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 4: this guy off and he was a terrible guy. He 401 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 4: was a pedophile, and he was disgusting. I didn't want 402 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 4: anything to do with them. And then you know, after that, 403 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 4: I reported him to the police. 404 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 2: Okay, So but he didn't. That's an interesting take. So 405 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 2: what does that what what do you think? 406 00:27:58,800 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 4: What do you think about that? 407 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 2: Well? I think you I understand the point you're making. 408 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 2: I also, speaking as a lawyer, it's very difficult to 409 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 2: to get into the mind of someone twenty five or 410 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 2: so years ago, uh and what responsibility they might have 411 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 2: felt maybe his knowledge of of of Epstein at the 412 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 2: time might have been that that he was a guy 413 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 2: who liked young girls. Uh, he will say that. 414 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 4: He said, he said in the last couple of days, Yes, 415 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 4: he threw this guy out of Marilanda. 416 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 2: I heard him say that him. I agree with you. 417 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 2: But what I'm saying, what I'm saying to you is 418 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 2: sometimes people have and I'm speaking as a lawyer, people 419 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 2: have different recollections. And also, by the way, Donald Trump 420 00:28:54,680 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 2: makes statements a hundred times a day which which often 421 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 2: are inconsistent and sometimes are downright incorrect. I'm not trying 422 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 2: to defend him here. If he wants to stay by that, 423 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 2: you could easily say, well, you in effect gave him cover, 424 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 2: you gave him approval, you looked the other way. I 425 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 2: don't have a problem with you believing that or seeing that, 426 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 2: or making that point. I'm just saying that when I 427 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 2: go through what are the implications there are As a lawyer, 428 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 2: I'm looking at him saying, this is a guy who's 429 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 2: saying something in twenty twenty five about what he thought 430 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 2: in two thousand and four, and maybe maybe what he 431 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 2: thought in two thousand and four. In actuality, was that 432 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 2: this guy was a creep and he wanted him off 433 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 2: the property, and then later on found out, yeah, he 434 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 2: was really a creep. He was much more than a creep. 435 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 2: He was he was a pedophile. I just you know, 436 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 2: I think you got to you gotta be realistic here 437 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 2: and say, Okay, what have we got on? 438 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 4: And I'm trying to be that. I'm being I think 439 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 4: I'm being realistic by saying what I heard the President say. 440 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,719 Speaker 2: And I agree with you he said this. Yeah, you 441 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 2: are right, But what I'm saying to you is at 442 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 2: a level different than what you're responding to. And what 443 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 2: I'm saying is that sometimes people say things, even someone 444 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 2: like Donald Trump, who probably runs his mouth off more 445 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 2: than most people. If I were his lawyer, I would say, 446 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 2: you're not going to talk about this anymore. But good 447 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 2: luck with that if you know what I'm saying. And 448 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 2: to prove that he, let's say, somehow had an obligation 449 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 2: to report this to the police circa two thousand and four, 450 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 2: that's that's difficult to prove, despite what his his own 451 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 2: statements would be. I know that sounds contorted to you, 452 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 2: but that's what I believe. 453 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 4: No, let me put it this way, what he said 454 00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 4: today or you know, laste days that you know he 455 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 4: did this, he threw him up because he was such 456 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 4: a terrible perversiartifile absolutely yep. However, so yeah he did that. 457 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 4: But you know, however, his memory is he did that, 458 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 4: but his memory is that he thought this guy was 459 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 4: a terrible pedophile. But his memory is also that he 460 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 4: never said anything to the police. 461 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 2: Well, I would assume that if he had said I 462 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 2: think that's a reasonable I'm not doubting that. I'm admitting 463 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 2: that he must. If he had said something to the police, 464 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 2: he would have He would be very smart to get 465 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 2: that on the record. You know, we're dealing here, and 466 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 2: I think you make great points. Okay, I'm just trying 467 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 2: to parry with you in a conversation with you as 468 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 2: to what whatever someone says on my show. I try 469 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 2: to sort of test their theories, and that's all. Simply 470 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 2: do it with you. Look, I a p first time calling, 471 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 2: by the way, this show or no, I'm sorry, what 472 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 2: is this your first time calling my show? 473 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 4: Yes it is. 474 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 2: We've got to give you a lot of a call 475 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 2: from that digital studio audience. Thanks so much, Ja, don't 476 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 2: be a stranger. It's a great call. Thank you very much. 477 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 4: Okay, thank you much. 478 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 2: Six seven two, five, four ten thirty six one seven, 479 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 2: nine three one ten thirty. What I'm doing tonight with this, 480 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 2: and maybe I haven't been clear, I'm trying to probe 481 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 2: your mind as to where you will end up here 482 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 2: if Donald Trump is again inculpated directly or or for 483 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 2: that matter, indirectly by some Epstein emails. Uh. And if 484 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 2: you're a Donald Trumps supporter, what does that mean to you? 485 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 2: If if Donald Trump is not implicated, but there are 486 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 2: others who are implicated, such as Larry Summers or or 487 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 2: you anyone else you might think, will you have as 488 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:03,959 Speaker 2: much interested in the story? 489 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 3: You know? 490 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 2: Six one seven, two four ten thirty six one seven, 491 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 2: nine three ten thirty Coming right back on night Side. 492 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 2: Feel free to join the conversation here. This is what 493 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 2: we do on night Side. We try to test throw 494 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 2: out subjects that will interest you. If this subject doesn't 495 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 2: interest you, we'll move on. That's easy, that's easy. But 496 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 2: I think there's more to this topic tonight, frankly than 497 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 2: we've done so far. Although Dick's Dick was an excellent call. 498 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 2: Coming back on. 499 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: Night Side, you're on night Side with Dan Ray on WBS, 500 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: Boston's news radio. 501 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 2: Back to the phones and going to Bob, Bob, you 502 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 2: were next to KNIGHTSI go right ahead, Bob Walwick, go ahead, Bob, 503 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 2: all right, tonight, go ahead. 504 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 5: I'm doing fine. How are you tonight? 505 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 2: I'm doing great. What's on your mind? We're talking about 506 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 2: the h I emails. I don't know. 507 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 5: I'm gonna tell you what's on my mind. I've seen 508 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 5: videos of Trump, and that's with Trump. This is years ago. 509 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 5: He had his hand on around his Epstein's shoulder. He's smiling, 510 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 5: pointing out. I imagine girls in the in a cocktail 511 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 5: party or yeah, everybody knows he was a friend. 512 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,760 Speaker 2: He was a friend of Epstein for or Epstein, whichever 513 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 2: it is, for many years. 514 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 5: I was really enjoying it. And he's had three wives. 515 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 5: You think you think Epstein's a pervert. I think there's 516 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 5: a lot of possibility that Trump's a pervert. What do 517 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 5: you base it on, Well, based on the videos I 518 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 5: saw on the news or every news station in the 519 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 5: country that works. 520 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:52,240 Speaker 2: So if there are no UH emails which implicate Trump 521 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 2: in anything, so let me finish well, right, I'm asking 522 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,400 Speaker 2: you if we if when the emails are really least, 523 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:05,839 Speaker 2: there are no emails that implicate Trump. Certainly, Larry Summers 524 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 2: has resigned from several posts. I guess he you know, 525 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 2: I've read them earlier tonight. So Summers obviously regrets his actions. 526 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 2: That was his statement, not mine. We'll put that aside. 527 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 2: If there are no emails in this patch of emails, 528 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 2: when they are fully released, not when they're partially partially released, 529 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 2: you're not going to change your mind about Donald Trump. 530 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 5: But no I will. I'll change my mind. I don't 531 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 5: have any preconceived notions of what he did or what 532 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 5: he didn't do as far as Epstein. Okay, if there's 533 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 5: no emails that support is problems of so called problems 534 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 5: with Epstein. Yeah, and I'll so be it. 535 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,800 Speaker 2: Right, And you could still dislike him as a president, 536 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 2: and you. 537 00:35:56,080 --> 00:36:00,799 Speaker 5: Could you kept talking about Epstein right now. Right. 538 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 2: What I'm saying is you don't have to turn around 539 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 2: and say he's the greatest thing since Slice spread, Bob. 540 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 2: I'm not suggesting that. 541 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,879 Speaker 5: No, It's like it's almost. 542 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,720 Speaker 2: What I'm trying to do with you, Bob here tonight 543 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 2: and with everyone is almost put you in a jury box. 544 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 2: You might look at the guy and say, that guy, 545 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 2: he just looks to me like he's guilty. But if 546 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:26,240 Speaker 2: the facts aren't there in the courtroom, you can't vote 547 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 2: to convict the guy based upon me. 548 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 5: Agree with you, I agree with you, but I'll come 549 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 5: he's trying to the last week, and so he's blaming 550 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 5: the press that I go going after after the Democrats 551 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,320 Speaker 5: that might have the same might have the same problem 552 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 5: that he. 553 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 2: Has typical Donald talk. That's the way that's that's the 554 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 2: way he's wired. It's the way he's wired. Bob, you 555 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:53,840 Speaker 2: know that he's I agree, I agree with you. It's like, 556 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 2: don't look at me. I didn't do it. Look at him, Bobby. 557 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 5: Every day, he's got so many I got to try. 558 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 2: To get one idea before the break. My man. Thanks 559 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 2: for checking in. Uh, you and I are doing better 560 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 2: here in recent weeks. Thanks Palt, talk to you. Let's 561 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 2: go to war and war. I gotta get you in 562 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 2: under the wire. Thanks for calling in your thoughts on this. 563 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 6: Yeah, Hey, hey Dan, what I know. 564 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,400 Speaker 7: What I know is Alan. 565 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 6: Who is who was Epstein's lawyer? Has what was questioned 566 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 6: about Trump? And you know because that's you know it 567 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:35,840 Speaker 6: being his lawyer. He was he would go to Epstein 568 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 6: and say, you know, what are the big names in 569 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,760 Speaker 6: the in these emails to try to cut a better 570 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 6: deal for you know, for Epstein. And that's what defense 571 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:46,840 Speaker 6: lawyers do. 572 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 7: And you know he said on the closely that you know, 573 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:52,240 Speaker 7: Trump did nothing. 574 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,399 Speaker 2: Again, I don't know that. I don't know that. First 575 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,359 Speaker 2: of all, what you're saying is accurate. I don't know 576 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:06,160 Speaker 2: that the Dershowitz would have complete and a thorough knowledge 577 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,319 Speaker 2: of what might might have not been dead. I've seen 578 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,800 Speaker 2: nothing at this point to implicate Trump. 579 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 7: Yeakay Witz actually has said that you know, you know, 580 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,799 Speaker 7: he knows more, he knows more, but can't say it 581 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:24,359 Speaker 7: under a judge's order. 582 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:28,719 Speaker 2: Well, okay, that that that honestly, Warren, I am unfamiliar with. 583 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 2: Hey Warren, thank you for checking in. I really do 584 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 2: appreciate it. Up against my eleven o'clock news. Okay, thanks, 585 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,799 Speaker 2: n talk later, Okay. I would love to continue this conversation. 586 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:40,879 Speaker 2: It's up to you. Want to call the call, want 587 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,440 Speaker 2: to call the show? Six one, seven, two, five, four, ten, 588 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 2: thirty six seven nine. If this topic is not of 589 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 2: sufficient interest, we'll move on to something else. Dan Ray 590 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,239 Speaker 2: in Knightside, coming back right after the eleven o'clock news. 591 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:53,879 Speaker 2: Give us a call.