1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: It's night side with Dan Ray. 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 2: I'm telling you beasy at Boston's Beach Radio. 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 3: Well, we can all take a deep breath aside, there's 4 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 3: no guest, this is open lines. 5 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 4: I can relax. 6 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 3: There was a lot to get through in the first 7 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 3: three hours he had Dean Michael Coyne. It was a 8 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 3: lot of legal catching up to do concerning Timulas and 9 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 3: Ben and Jerry and the kind of Brian Walts wrap up, 10 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 3: Karen Reid, etc. And then a really great hour. I 11 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 3: didn't have the time in just one hour to pack 12 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 3: in all I wanted, So we'll have to have him back. 13 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 3: David Allan Lambert, a genealogist to the stars, really was 14 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 3: the genealogist for Ken Burns, and David McCullough the historian, 15 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 3: and many more. And we were graced, some much say 16 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 3: blessed to have him in the studio here. That was 17 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 3: fantastic and I'm fascinated about it. 18 00:00:59,480 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 4: One thing I. 19 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 3: Did not get to ask him about was what's called 20 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 3: the bottleneck in the Homo Sapien bottleneck And I don't 21 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 3: really understand how they know this, but it is widely 22 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 3: thought that at one point they were no more than 23 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 3: a few like maybe one two three thousand Homo sapiens 24 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 3: on Earth, which is in most cases a sure sign 25 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 3: of going extinct. 26 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 4: You just don't survive those numbers. 27 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:39,479 Speaker 3: Somehow they did, but I need to learn next time 28 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:45,119 Speaker 3: how they know that genetically. There's a way. I'm fascinated 29 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 3: by genetics. I wish I knew more about it. I 30 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 3: wish I really knew what was going on when they 31 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 3: when they took the swab, they get the cells, What 32 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 3: do they do to the cells? 33 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 4: Do they do? 34 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 3: I think they duplicate them? And then they I actually 35 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 3: think they take this double heli strands apart and sticking 36 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 3: back together somehow. That is very fascinating to me. And 37 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 3: how they are able to know how many people approximately people, 38 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 3: if you want to call Homo sapiens, like really early 39 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 3: Homo sapiens is fascinating to me. And then we had 40 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 3: Jim Sullivan talking about music. We call it punk, but 41 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 3: most folks, you know, punk and new wave and let's 42 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 3: see and these other genres are kind of mixed together. 43 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 3: So it was basically talking about early what I think 44 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:48,119 Speaker 3: is early seventies and early eighties, not progressive rock, that 45 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,679 Speaker 3: genre that destroyed progressive rock. 46 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 4: The bands that. 47 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 3: Took themselves too seriously. Oh yeah, that's another criterion for 48 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 3: me to be a real punk pain. You can't take 49 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 3: yourself too seriously. And I didn't really have time to 50 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 3: finish up on that topic. So I want to run 51 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 3: through a top one hundred lists here. This is very generic. 52 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 3: This is not Rolling Stone or I can't vouch for 53 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 3: their you know there accuracy, but it doesn't matter. Here's 54 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 3: what they have one hundred greatest punk bands of all time. 55 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 3: They have the Ramones. Okay, I can't argue with that. 56 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 3: Ramons are right in there. Then then you have sex Pistols. 57 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 3: Depending on your definition of punk, they may have been 58 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 3: more punk, you know. I mean you saw what is 59 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 3: it sit in Nancy? That was that was pretty punk. No, 60 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 3: no beef. 61 00:03:56,160 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 4: With me there on. Then you get to my favorite, 62 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 4: the clash. 63 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 3: Let me tell you, up to a certain point, while 64 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 3: the class, the class were punk, then they became something else. 65 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 3: Then they became kind of reggae. But when I see 66 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 3: the stripped down, straightforward version of the video that's called 67 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 3: London Calling, man, I wish I could watch it with 68 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 3: each and every one of you. The London Calling video 69 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 3: where they're on what looks like a doctor ship in 70 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 3: some arbor and it's raining and they're doing London calling. 71 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 3: It is just so stripped down and serious and no frills. 72 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 4: I did get to see. 73 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 3: Them one time at the or Field and it was 74 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 3: the time oh Man who was the artist who did 75 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 3: Working in a coal Mine Lee Lee Lee Dorsey that 76 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 3: he did Working in a coal Mine. He warmed up 77 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 3: for them. And I was working at TEG Friday, so 78 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 3: it had to be between seventy nine and eighty two, 79 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 3: and probably in the earlier end of that. So I 80 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 3: worked in the day, had my shift drink. I actually 81 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 3: had two shift drinks because those were transferable. Believe it 82 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 3: or not, somebody didn't want the shift drink. 83 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 4: You would have it. 84 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,359 Speaker 3: Also, it wasn't just beer wine. You can get a 85 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 3: full on cocktail. I will go on record saying TGI 86 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:29,359 Speaker 3: Fridays in Boston on Exeter Street was a tremendous place 87 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 3: to work and everybody there, everybody that were there was 88 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 3: into music. There were about eleven college DJs working there 89 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 3: as bussers, bartenders or weight staff. Anyway, we had our 90 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 3: shift drinks and we went off to see the clash 91 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 3: and I was just blown away with the economy of 92 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 3: the power and economy of the band just in your face, 93 00:05:56,240 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 3: and they were an example of the British bands then 94 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 3: being just better. I remember going to the Paradise a 95 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 3: lot of times and you'd see a domestic opener, somebody 96 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 3: from the USA, and. 97 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 4: They'd be good. 98 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 3: You think this band is good, and then the British 99 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 3: main act would come out and it was like two 100 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 3: notches better and you immediately thought. 101 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 4: Whoa, whoa, this is a whole. 102 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 3: Other ballgame like Gang of Four, for example, came out 103 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 3: and so tight and so good in a small club 104 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 3: like the Paradise. I love the Paradise, and once again, 105 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 3: God bless Billy Budd, long time manager at the Paradise. 106 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 3: Now I'm going to go through this. I'll get you 107 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 3: ed in a moment. What else on this list? There's 108 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 3: a couple that I just have to disqualify. Bad Brains. 109 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 3: Some of you may remember Bad Brains. I believe they 110 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 3: were kind of half punk and half reggae. And there 111 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 3: was a place called Streets that I went to and 112 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 3: saw Brains, and I saw one of the band's stage dive. 113 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:09,119 Speaker 3: But he over he overshot, he over calculated, and dove 114 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 3: over the crowd, onto the bar, misfits in the Stooges. Yeah, 115 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 3: they don't have the long the short songs, but everything 116 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 3: else about him is certainly punk. 117 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 4: Then you get to Green. 118 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 3: Day and for me, no way, Sorry, doors closed. You 119 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 3: can keep on knocking, but you're not getting into the 120 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 3: punk club. Are you kidding me? Not at all? To 121 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 3: put Green Day in the same category as as the 122 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 3: Clash or those bands that that Legs McNeil was talking 123 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 3: about in seventy five, six, seven, eight, nine, seventy. 124 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 4: Ten, you just don't belong there. 125 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 3: Your punk style, I get it, not punk light, but 126 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 3: punk style, Okay, I just not punk. 127 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 4: And again for me, just like. 128 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 3: Post war War's over, post punk, that phrase of a 129 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 3: certain genre of music meant that punk was over. So 130 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 3: anybody after that not punk. That's a pretty solid argument, pogues, Yes, 131 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 3: and actually there's kind of an exception. 132 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 4: To my rule. 133 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 3: Drop Kick Murphy's punk bands. But of course they were 134 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 3: kind of there early on. They're just survivors and I 135 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 3: love them. I love the drop Kick Murphys. They got 136 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 3: such a great thing going on, and I love their politics, and. 137 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 4: I love. 138 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 3: They have more merch sales, more merchandise for sale than 139 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 3: any other band on the planet, and they have a 140 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 3: sweet formula that take for me. 141 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 4: It's and I don't and Ken and everybody. 142 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 3: I don't mean to oversimplify, but what I hear is 143 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 3: Sea Shanties, Irish Sea Shandies as punk. And it's a very, 144 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 3: very great thing to see. And I'm so glad that 145 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 3: they're still going strong, and believe me, they're going strong. 146 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 3: Then you get to Blink one eighty two, Blink one 147 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 3: eighty two. I've interviewed these guys a bunch, and to me, 148 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 3: nothing could be further from punk. Green Day's more punk 149 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 3: than these guys. This is Blink one eighty two ushered 150 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 3: in a new rock, a new era for punk rock. 151 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 4: No, they didn't, They just did not. 152 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 3: San Diego band wasn't anchoring so much to classic punk sounds. Hey, 153 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 3: classic punk sounds, with the exception of Dropkick Murphy's, that's 154 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 3: all there are. If it's not classic punk, it's not punk. 155 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 3: After a while, they weren't even tied to the kind 156 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 3: of pop punk that had made groups like Green Day 157 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 3: so successful. So pop punk it's two, it's completely different things. 158 00:09:55,200 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 3: It's like it's like having yes, no, what's your answer. Yes, No, there, 159 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:07,839 Speaker 3: that's opposite, and pop punk is not for me a 160 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 3: sub genre of punk, forget about it. Blondie, that's tough, right, 161 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 3: don't know, don't know, Yes and no. 162 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 4: I would debate that one with you. I'm the jury's 163 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 4: out for me on that one. Susie in the band Cheese, yeah. 164 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 3: Definitely right there in the beginning, they were part of 165 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 3: the sex pistles in a circle she was and I 166 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 3: started to do a pretty punk thing. This is something 167 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 3: I saw at the Paradise and it's violent but very punk. 168 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 3: This is a true story. I'm seeing Susie in the 169 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 3: band Cheese at the Paradise in the front row, leaning 170 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:59,199 Speaker 3: against the stage, and there was a kid I'm not 171 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 3: gonna name his name. 172 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 4: From a punk band in Boston. 173 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 3: And unless I'm having some sort of bad dream, and 174 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 3: I'm not, I saw this kid pull on the microphone cord. 175 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 3: It's something I was able to access Susie's microphone cord 176 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 3: because he was right in the front road to pull 177 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 3: on it. 178 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 4: He pulled on her microphone. 179 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 3: Cords as a punk like thing to do. 180 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 4: Well. 181 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 3: She kind of brushed it off and continued to sing 182 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 3: her song. But he did it again I saw this, 183 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 3: and the second time did not go so well for 184 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 3: the kid who pulled on the microphone cord because she 185 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 3: back she did a one two kind of like a 186 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 3: field goal kick. You know, here's a snap, it's down, 187 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 3: one two kick. Well she did a one two kick 188 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 3: or right in that kid's face. That's you know, that's 189 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 3: terrible to talk about. 190 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 4: Now. 191 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 3: I'm not condoning the violence. I'm not condoning any violence. 192 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 3: I'm just saying that was that was a punk time, 193 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:08,439 Speaker 3: and uh, there's no getting around it. Talking heads, I 194 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 3: gazingly have to keep them in there. 195 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 4: They were. 196 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 3: They were punk for a short time and then became 197 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 3: art rock. That's my take. New York Dolls Yes, Johnny Thunders, Yes, Undertones, 198 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 3: No Elvis Costello, no, Richard Hell, Yes, Black Flag, Yes, 199 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 3: the Damned. Yes, first punk album to sell a bunch. 200 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 3: I guess they were one of the bands seventy seven. 201 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 3: They were battling the Sexpistles for the heavyweight title of 202 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 3: punk the offspring. Nice band, good guys. Sorry Green that's 203 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 3: like Green Day. That ought to do it for now, 204 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 3: unless you want to if we have two more calls, 205 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 3: probably about this, so I'll break and Uh, it's open lines. 206 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 4: You can talk about anything you want. We'll get to 207 00:12:57,800 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 4: Ed first. 208 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 3: Thanks for waiting, Ed, and uh, that'll be next on WBZ. 209 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 4: You're on night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's 210 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 4: news radio. 211 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 3: Bradley J for Dan tonight and we have Ed in 212 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 3: Boston Open lines Now, Ed, what's going on? 213 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: Hey? 214 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,439 Speaker 2: I enjoyed the topic. Thanks for having me. 215 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: Uh. 216 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 2: A band that I think fits your conteria other than 217 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 2: the time period would be the Dresden Dolls. You have 218 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 2: the anger, you have, the emotion a little bit scary. 219 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 2: They described themselves as cabaret punks, so maybe the extra. 220 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 4: They were like German cabaret punk, like. 221 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 2: They have local roots. 222 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 3: I know, I know, but that style was kind of 223 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 3: like Berlin cabaret, wasn't it. 224 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 4: Yeah? 225 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:52,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, right, yeah, but you know, okay, I want to 226 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:53,439 Speaker 3: argue with that. 227 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 4: Can you remember any other Boston punk pans. 228 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 3: I mean, jeez, I've seen hundreds of them, but but 229 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,199 Speaker 3: they're unless I have a list in front of me, 230 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 3: it's tough to remember it. And I used to do 231 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 3: the be a judge at the WBC and Rock and 232 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 3: Roller Rumble. There would be twenty four twenty four bands, 233 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 3: you know, and then that, and I did that for 234 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 3: probably twenty years, so there's a lot of bands. Some 235 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 3: of those were punk bands. Do you remember any other 236 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 3: punk bands in Boston. 237 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 2: No, that's really it, other than they drop kick Murphy's, 238 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 2: like you said, and through themon there, there's really. 239 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 4: No. 240 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 2: It's hard. No, that's a good question. 241 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 4: I think I remember. 242 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 3: Doing an in store we drop kick Murphy's at the 243 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 3: Strawberries Records and Tapes and Porter Square before they well 244 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 3: they must have been a pretty better record and all. 245 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 3: But it's really cool to see them thrive the way 246 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 3: they have and they're just wonderful. 247 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 4: They're still giant. I appreciate it, and thanks a lot. 248 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 4: Appreciate the call. 249 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 2: Thank you, of course. 250 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 4: And I see there's a call. 251 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 3: It has not been properly screened yet, so I will 252 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 3: not take that call. As I mentioned open lines. When 253 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 3: we started out with Michael Coin, we talked about these 254 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 3: two youths eighteen years of age I believe from Winchington, Massachusetts, 255 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 3: who went at the mountain. 256 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 4: Of nad Knock and were. 257 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 3: They got in trouble, they had to be rescued and 258 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 3: they may I don't know if it's been decided one 259 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 3: hundred percent. Yet they may have to pay I don't 260 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 3: know how much that would be depends on they have 261 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 3: to use a helicopter. Helicopters are crazy expensive. 262 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 4: Let's get it. By the way, evacuation is really expensive. 263 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 3: And as an aside, when it comes to evacuation, when 264 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 3: I go on a trip, I get to travel insurance, 265 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 3: not to protect so much the money spent, but I 266 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 3: want to get the medical insurance and I want to 267 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 3: get the evacuation insurance because when it comes to insurance 268 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 3: and me, what I worry about is the big catastrophe 269 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 3: that can wipe you out. And did you know that 270 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 3: it can cost like half a million bucks to evacuate 271 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 3: you if you got injured, say by a Say you're 272 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 3: in London, you're looking the wrong way because they're driving 273 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 3: on the wrong side of the street. You get it, 274 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 3: buy a car and you need to be evacuated back here. 275 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 3: You could be up up to a half a million 276 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 3: dollars for a special airplane. And that insurance is cheap. 277 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 3: I got a million dollars worth for an upcoming trip 278 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 3: and they said, you want for four more dollars, you 279 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 3: want to upgrade that to two million? 280 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 4: Let's say, are you kidding me? Four bucks a cup 281 00:16:58,440 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 4: of coffee? 282 00:16:59,600 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 5: Oh? 283 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I do. 284 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 3: Hopefully I'll never need that extra million, but I do 285 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 3: like the insurance, uh, in case. 286 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 4: I need to be evacuated. 287 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 3: Back to evacuation of the kids and in that knock, 288 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 3: I I don't know exactly what they're doing, but I 289 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 3: want I wanted to ask you what you think should 290 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 3: someone who gets in trouble out in the wilderness. Maybe 291 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 3: they didn't dress right, maybe they went out at dark 292 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 3: like ninnies like not these kids, but anybody, you know, 293 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 3: like like I did once? Ah, you know, did did 294 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 3: risky things, walk, walked on a pond and spring if 295 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 3: if you do, If someone does something and is careless, 296 00:17:58,000 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 3: should you have to should they have to pay? 297 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 4: Now? 298 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 3: I certainly don't want my tax dollars paying for idiots 299 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 3: getting stranded and have the town have to pay for 300 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 3: the for the helicopter or whatever. Butt On the other hand, 301 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 3: as someone brought up, if your house catches on fire 302 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 3: because you were careless, the is the fire department charge 303 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 3: you for putting the fire out? 304 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 6: No? 305 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 4: I don't think so. I think the case can be 306 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 4: made that. 307 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 3: Look, that's the way it is unless you're gonna start 308 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 3: charging people to put the fire out in their house 309 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 3: if they were careless, like if they smoked in bed, 310 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 3: or they had an underage teen drinking party that got 311 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 3: out of hand. Tell you start charging tills the fire 312 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 3: department starts charging. I don't see how you can justify that. 313 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 3: It seems like selective application of the law. Which brings 314 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 3: me to a story where I I do enjoy. 315 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 4: Telling stories, and I. 316 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 3: Invite you to tell the story of something and be bold, 317 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 3: be brave, no judgment, just something that you did that 318 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,719 Speaker 3: was stupid, like what I'm about to tell you. I 319 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 3: have a couple of stupid persons stories. And this took 320 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 3: place on the same mountain that these kids got stranded on. 321 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 3: I went my friend Andrew and I we made a 322 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 3: pact every week we're going to go on the hike. 323 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:31,239 Speaker 3: Three weeks we went to Mount Washington and no excuse me, 324 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 3: to the White Mountains. And one week we went to Monadnock. 325 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 3: And on this week it happened to be extremely icy, 326 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 3: like you shouldn't even go get your mail because it's 327 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 3: too dangerous. But on this mountain it was horrible, and 328 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 3: I had these really small cheesy, uh, spring like traction 329 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 3: things on my feet that you would use to get 330 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 3: the mail on an icy day, not at all appropriate for. 331 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 4: An icy mountain. That yet stupidly. 332 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 3: Well, we went up the mountain, and all the way up, 333 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,199 Speaker 3: I'm thinking, man, it's going to be so hard to 334 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 3: get down. 335 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 4: How are we going to get down? 336 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 3: Going up is way easier for a couple of reasons, 337 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:22,239 Speaker 3: And one of the reasons is that when you're going up, 338 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,199 Speaker 3: the angle of the mountain puts the ground closer to 339 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 3: your head. If it's really steep, it may be only 340 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 3: four feet from your head to the ground, So if 341 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 3: you slip and fall, you're already kind of leaning in 342 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 3: that direction. But if the way on the way down, 343 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 3: the angle is much different. You're standing up straight, and 344 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 3: the angle of the fall would go past ninety degrees 345 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,360 Speaker 3: add on the angle of the downhill. So if you're 346 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 3: going to fall and hit your head, it's a long 347 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 3: way if you're going down there hill. And for some reason, 348 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 3: traction is just harder going downhill at any rate. 349 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 4: We go up and there's a mist on the rocks 350 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 4: on the top that is frozen. Really really stupid. 351 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,439 Speaker 3: We should have said this is dumb, We're gonna go 352 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 3: get a hot chocolate or a beer. No, So anyway, 353 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 3: coming down, I reached an area between two rocks, kind 354 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 3: of a little flume like. That's the best way I 355 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 3: can describe it. A little flume like area, perhaps twenty 356 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 3: five feet long and sheer ice. My friend wisely went around. I. 357 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 3: I'll just slide down on my butt through this part 358 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 3: into those bushes, because there was some bushes, not quite trees, 359 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 3: not quite bushes, somewhere in between. Maybe the trunks or 360 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,400 Speaker 3: the stemmas of the bushes were half inch to three 361 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 3: quarters of an inch. So I started to slide down, 362 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 3: but the area was so steep and it was pure ice. 363 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 3: I went way, way, way, way faster than I thought 364 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 3: I was going to go, like twenty five feet. I 365 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 3: got a scary amount of speed going and went in 366 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 3: those trees and put out my hands to break the impact. 367 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,160 Speaker 4: And one of my my fingers, my. 368 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 3: Ring finger is it, the ring ring finger on my 369 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 3: right hand got hit one of these trees and bent 370 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 3: all the way back, like all the way back, so 371 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 3: it was ninety degrees from the rest of them. Like 372 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 3: if I would hold up my hand straight up, all 373 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 3: of my fingers pointing up, except this finger were pointing 374 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 3: back at me through the back of my hand. It 375 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 3: was awful to see, and I didn't know what to do. 376 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 3: I just couldn't go down that hill. Well, I couldn't 377 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 3: walk down that hill my finger sticking out backwards. 378 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 4: It was horrific. It was. 379 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 3: It was horrific to see. Mostly the pain hadn't said 380 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 3: in yet, and I didn't know what to do. My 381 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 3: friend was still going around, he hadn't caught up to 382 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 3: me yet, and I had these gloves on, and I 383 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 3: left him on. And in fact, I gotta what am 384 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 3: I gonna do? I have to do what I see 385 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 3: on TV, I guess, And we're gonna try to mcgive 386 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,679 Speaker 3: her this finger back in the position, not really mcgiver, 387 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 3: but I'm just gonna it's gonna be like the movies. 388 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 3: So I counted to three, pulled on the finger really hard, 389 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 3: one two three, nothing, still sticking out the wrong way. 390 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 4: I didn't have any choice. 391 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 3: Once again, one two three, pulled it as hard as 392 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 3: I could, or at least hard enough, because I've actually 393 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 3: popped back in the joint. 394 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 4: I was thrilled. I thought, I'm a survivor. I'm a genius. 395 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 3: There's no stop in me, and happily I was able 396 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 3: to go down the hill and not fall down again. 397 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 4: But it's never been the same. Still have it. It's 398 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 4: all still crooked, it broke. And the point is, uh, 399 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 4: what the point is? 400 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 3: When you feel like you're doing something stupid, you probably are. 401 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 4: Now this on WBZ. 402 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 2: It's Night Side with Ray on wb Boston's. 403 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 3: News radio Readley for day and tonight and it's open 404 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 3: lines for the rest of the hour and the evening. 405 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 3: Same thing. Let's uh talk to Robert and Wellesley. I 406 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 3: just told a story about something I did that I 407 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 3: knew it was stupid and it turned out to turn 408 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 3: out badly. Do you have a story like that and 409 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 3: it's fun? You know, in some ways people don't like 410 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 3: to tell other people that they were idy it's but 411 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 3: on the other hand I did. It was cathartic and fun. 412 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 3: You should try it, Robert and Welles. The open lines, though, 413 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 3: you can talk about. 414 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 4: Anything you like. 415 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 5: Oh, good evening, Uh, mister Bradley, Mister Bradley, J The 416 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 5: I have a comment about your earlier topic of of 417 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 5: punk punk punk music. But the other thing I was 418 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 5: thanks for bringing up the topic of of of hiking 419 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 5: in the in the wilderness and so forth. I think 420 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 5: those are both. I think those are I think that 421 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,479 Speaker 5: was good to bring up. I had a quick one. 422 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 5: I don't know too much about punk rock music, but 423 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:50,479 Speaker 5: I was wondering if you were familiar with a punk singer. 424 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 5: The vocalist name was is his Kimbo Rose. She had 425 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 5: a group that I think started out in Washington State. 426 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 5: She may have continued to performing in Massachusetts and the 427 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,159 Speaker 5: I think one of the lead songs was roots of 428 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 5: a Narco and she had name. The name of her 429 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 5: group was was has her name in it, but I 430 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 5: can't remember the full man. I just thought it. 431 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:15,120 Speaker 4: Ask. 432 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 5: And the other thing is I think that when it 433 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 5: comes to to wilderness, uh or a recreation outdoor recreational activity, 434 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 5: I think part of the fun is being is preparing 435 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:31,400 Speaker 5: for a possible self rescue. 436 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 4: So yeah, I agree with. 437 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:37,400 Speaker 5: That because I think that you ought obviously, the two 438 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 5: of you felt the adventure of going out, traveling under 439 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 5: or hiking under adverse weather conditions. 440 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 3: We did not go through the process that you went through, 441 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,439 Speaker 3: which is preparing properly. Ever, since that busted finger, I 442 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 3: am careful to prepare. 443 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 5: Oh, I bet I bet so. I think your discussion 444 00:26:55,720 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 5: was very very interesting. I and so the movies don't 445 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 5: tell us, don't always give us an accurate story when 446 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 5: it comes to first aid. But uh, yeah, there are 447 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 5: there are a few things you see in the movies 448 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:16,880 Speaker 5: that aren't quite right, like like pulling out the impaled objects. 449 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, actually yeah, if you're impaled by anything, like if 450 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 3: you fall on a stick, don't pull out the stick. 451 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 3: If you can cut the stick off, you need to 452 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 3: keep it in there because the stick can the form 453 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:28,640 Speaker 3: of tempana. 454 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 4: And I'm not a doctor, but this is what I understand. 455 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 3: In some cases, if you put you out the the object, 456 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 3: you will bleed to death. You need to lead that 457 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 3: lead that in there because it forms what it's called 458 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 3: the tempanon and blocks he keeps the blood from coming out. 459 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 3: But but you shouldn't shouldn't work. You shouldn't move them either. 460 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,679 Speaker 3: You should That's that's Do you ever think about that? 461 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,959 Speaker 3: What do you do if somebody really gets hurt? Do 462 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 3: you do you leave them and go for help? I 463 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 3: guess you got to do that. So you need to 464 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 3: have with you what it would take to not freeze 465 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 3: to death at night. So one of those survival foil 466 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 3: look and survival blankets and something to eat, and it's 467 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 3: a light with extra batteries and. 468 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:15,679 Speaker 4: Something to start a fire with. 469 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 5: Ye all good, all good ideas of course, So, uh, 470 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,160 Speaker 5: were you asking me a question about if someone gets 471 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 5: seriously hurt? 472 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 3: Being depends on we don't want to just hear about 473 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 3: people getting seriously hurt. 474 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 4: But if you did. 475 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 3: Something dumb that didn't end well, that's a fun that's 476 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 3: a fun thing as long as it's told in it 477 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 3: a family way. 478 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 5: I think it's pre human to to to do to 479 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 5: do something that way and to wind up doing something 480 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 5: like that. No one's perfect, but education really helps prevent 481 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:01,719 Speaker 5: those situations. I think the uh, some of the organizations, 482 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 5: in particular the Red Cross have have done a good 483 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 5: job of imparting to people ideas of safety and what 484 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 5: to do, of what if there if there isn't and 485 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 5: if there is an accident, and uh, there are certain 486 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 5: general principles that come from that, like you like the 487 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 5: need to like if you're such as rescuing someone from 488 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 5: a strenuous drowning incident, the person needs to be treated 489 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 5: for shock and that's the general principle that that's the 490 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 5: person that it should be anticipated that the person may 491 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 5: be dealing with shock, and preventive care needs to be 492 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 5: taken in order to prevent that from getting worse. Because 493 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 5: there's something that something that because it could turn out 494 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 5: to be serious or fatal, and it doesn't have to 495 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 5: be if certain basic measures are taking taken, and you 496 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 5: mentioned a few of them. 497 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 4: Right, Thank you very much, Robert. Now it's Charlie and Sagas. 498 00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: Charlie, Hello, Yeah, I got inspired to call in by 499 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: Mountana banana story. 500 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 6: There a slip on the iceer. My case was a 501 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 6: lot more mundane, and it just happened this morning. I 502 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 6: went out my front door about seven o'clock in the 503 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 6: morning to take out a bag of rubbish to be 504 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:30,239 Speaker 6: picked up. And I have two flights that stairs, a 505 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 6: wooden flight with a half a dozen steps and another 506 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 6: half a dozen cement steps or so. Went down the 507 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 6: wooden steps, all right, no problem. As soon as I 508 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 6: got on the front steps the cement steps, my legs 509 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 6: just went up in the air. I fell backwards and 510 00:30:55,840 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 6: there's there's a lot I I yeah, what eye on 511 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 6: my left I and actually grabbed it with my left hand, 512 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 6: and that that book the fall. I was really very lucky. 513 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 6: If I had missed the railing, i'd been in the 514 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 6: hostile Now. 515 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 3: Black ice, ice that you can't see is brutally dangerous, 516 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 3: terribly terribly dangerous, and that's. 517 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 6: Why I was on top of black Ice show bad news. 518 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 4: Well, Charlie, thanks for sharing that. 519 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 3: I appreciate it, and I guess we'll talk to Kevin 520 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 3: and Sharing right now. 521 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 4: On w b Z. Hi Hi, Bradley. 522 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 7: Bradley, have a request for you. I don't know if 523 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 7: you can fulfill it though. Oh okay, when you were 524 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 7: on the over Night, you used to play this buffer 525 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 7: coming out of the commercials and it used to them 526 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 7: with I'm just talking about brad just see what you 527 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 7: can use that when you're substituting, because I used to 528 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 7: get a big kick out of it. 529 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 3: I don't know, you know, that might be overstepping the 530 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 3: bounds of filling in, but you know. 531 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 4: What I mean. But I do appreciate that. I love 532 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 4: those were. 533 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 3: They're called what are they called bumpers, And there were 534 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 3: a whole bunch of kind of song parody bumpers and. 535 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 1: It was a shaft of course. 536 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I love those two. I have them all. 537 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 7: I oh you do. 538 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I kept them all. I keep them. I 539 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 4: keep triple backed up. 540 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 3: I'm crazy when it comes to backing my hard drives up. 541 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 3: I have a giant sixteen terabyte hard drive, then I 542 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 3: have another one in the hall backing that up, and 543 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 3: then I have a third that's off the premises that 544 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 3: also gets backed up. So if the house burns down, 545 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 3: I didn't lose the really important things in life, like 546 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 3: my photos, my music, and those pieces of production. 547 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 5: Yeah. 548 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 7: Now I have a suggestion for you. Talking earlier about 549 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 7: punk rock and trying to follow a field of my 550 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 7: taste generally, but here's my suggestion to you. Get a 551 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 7: if you want to hear possibly the first double sided 552 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 7: punk rock record ever. Yeah, get a copy of a 553 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 7: forty five by the Kinks. You rarely got me the side. 554 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 7: I'm sure you're well, I'm sure you're familiar with the 555 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 7: B side, But then take it off the turntable, flip 556 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 7: it over and play the B side. It's a tune 557 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 7: called It's all Right, and it's a hillacious burner of 558 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,719 Speaker 7: a tune and performance. 559 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 4: That's a really good suggestion. Really good Kinks. 560 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 3: A lot of folks say they're underrated, and I think 561 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 3: they're probably right underrated. 562 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 7: Oh they were great. I think you can't come up 563 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 7: with any band that sustained what they did for as 564 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 7: long as they did. Because even their very last album, 565 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 7: To the Bone, which is kind of an unplugged a fear, 566 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,880 Speaker 7: you know, where they think some of their earlier songs 567 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 7: and redo them unpugged, is really really good. People dismissed 568 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 7: them or dismissed them their way of stuff as arena rock. 569 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 7: They did one or two arena rock songs, but that's 570 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 7: way way over the top, so it's dismiss everything they 571 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:28,760 Speaker 7: did as arena rocket. 572 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I have kind of guilty pleasure. I don't even 573 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 3: call it guilty pleasure anymore. There's a lot of arena 574 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 3: rock that I have come to appreciate that back in 575 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 3: the day I didn't appreciate. 576 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,320 Speaker 4: I don't know why. Is it just getting old? I 577 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 4: don't think so. I think I've just. 578 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 3: Maybe it's nostalgia, But I kind of appreciate what they 579 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 3: were doing, and there were some folks that were really 580 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,839 Speaker 3: super good at it, like Journey, they were really good 581 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 3: at it. 582 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 7: Well, whenever I hear a phrase arena rock, I think 583 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 7: of you two and Bono you know, stomping around on 584 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 7: stage and you know, uh, just the songs are all slogans, 585 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,799 Speaker 7: and you know, he's he's look at me, look at me, 586 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 7: Mom and. 587 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 6: Dad, IM and I cool blah blah. 588 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 4: You know, yeah, Okay, do you think you think he's overrated? 589 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 3: Right? 590 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 5: Yeah? 591 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 7: I like some of their stuff, but generally speaking, he's 592 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 7: a big turn off for me. He's he's he's like 593 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,319 Speaker 7: a superhero of rock. I'm not a big fan of 594 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 7: rock superheroes, you know, like a very self. 595 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 4: Aware look at me, Uh, I. 596 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 7: Find the whole show and I'm bigger than everybody else, 597 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 7: that kind of thing. You know. 598 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 3: I appreciate your frankness, Kevin and Sharon. That was a 599 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 3: great call. Thank you. 600 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: You're welcome. 601 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 3: Okay, that was super super fast night, super pleasurable night. 602 00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 3: Still have one more little segment to COVID, just so 603 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 3: I don't forget. I wanted to thank my guest Michael 604 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 3: Coin from the Massachusett School of Law. As always, he's excellent, 605 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 3: as well as David Allen Lambert. He's the genealogist I 606 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 3: dream of genealogists. 607 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 4: He's the best, and we've. 608 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 3: Got to have him back because there's so much he 609 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 3: didn't cover about history. He's a genealogist for the stars 610 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 3: and for a lot of revolutionary figures in Boston as well. 611 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 3: And Jim Sullivan writ former writer for music, writer for 612 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:38,279 Speaker 3: the Boston Globe and Backstage and beyond. Cool book He's 613 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,400 Speaker 3: got with lots of photos and stories. 614 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 4: Great great, great night. 615 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,479 Speaker 3: And of course kind of my favorite, the open line. 616 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,400 Speaker 3: I love that as well. I like telling the stories. 617 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 3: I got lots of stories. And if you don't call 618 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 3: me first, maybe I'll tell another story. But I'd rather 619 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 3: hear a story from you. At six one seven, two, 620 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,800 Speaker 3: five four ten thirty six one seven thirty is WBZ. 621 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 4: It's night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's news radio. 622 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 3: That's right, Bradley j for Dan. It's good to be 623 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 3: with you. This is Nightside. You know, you can listen 624 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:18,280 Speaker 3: to Nightside anytime. I just simply googling Nightside on demand. 625 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,320 Speaker 3: I do that all the time. It's it's so cool. 626 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 3: Say I'm driving back from White Mountains, Boom. It just 627 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 3: it's my little magic carpet ride back listening to the 628 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 3: night Side shows and WBC Live. Last time I went 629 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 3: up to my Mount Washington hotel. WBZ was loud and 630 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,800 Speaker 3: clear every step of the way, which is great. And 631 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 3: then we go to and here's proof that you can 632 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,799 Speaker 3: listen on the iHeartRadio app. We have Sky in Napa, California. 633 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 4: High Sky. 634 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 8: Hey, how you doing today? 635 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:52,959 Speaker 4: Very well? 636 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,400 Speaker 5: Thanks wonderful. 637 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 9: Anyway, I was just in a backtrack a couple of conversations. 638 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 9: Is as far as punk rock band, I would say, 639 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:07,840 Speaker 9: I like to listen to the jam? 640 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 8: How about you? 641 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 4: The Jam? It's funny. I was just I love the jam. 642 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 3: Uh that was down on the subway at midnight, and 643 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,719 Speaker 3: this is the modern world, and. 644 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,720 Speaker 8: I was trying to think and also going underground, which. 645 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 4: That's what I'm Yes, so that's different than down right, yeah, 646 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 4: I think so. 647 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,839 Speaker 3: Anyway, I was doing a little battle in my head 648 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 3: about the Jam earlier in the day, and I was 649 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,760 Speaker 3: trying to decide if the Jam were punk or new wave. 650 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 3: But maybe they were kind of new wave looking but 651 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:45,360 Speaker 3: punk singing. The sound was punk. 652 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 8: Maybe if they were looking on the back door, they 653 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,400 Speaker 8: would be that. 654 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:51,320 Speaker 2: But yeah, I guess I'd. 655 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,839 Speaker 3: Go I wouldn't argue with punk. Okay, fine, they were 656 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 3: around at the right time. They short songs, sure, did 657 00:38:59,560 --> 00:38:59,799 Speaker 3: you ever? 658 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:01,839 Speaker 4: I never saw them. Did you ever see them? 659 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 8: No, I didn't know. Uh no, I did see the Who, 660 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,400 Speaker 8: But that's not what we're talking about. 661 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,600 Speaker 3: No. Actually, now it's open line, so we can talk 662 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 3: about anything. I got a couple of minutes. Tell me 663 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 3: about the WHO experience. 664 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 7: Oh, I was. 665 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,879 Speaker 8: Well that when I was living in Boston with Well 666 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:21,920 Speaker 8: Frankie boy. I've actually met you a couple of times 667 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,880 Speaker 8: at the Winery City. 668 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, there you go. 669 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 9: Anyway. 670 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 8: Now I live back in California, but yeah, no, I saw, Yeah, 671 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,400 Speaker 8: I saw the Who a few times. It was great, 672 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 8: absolutely rocking. 673 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,360 Speaker 3: I guess they're about as loud as loud as you 674 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 3: can get other than Motorhead, I guess, but super loud, 675 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:45,640 Speaker 3: I would guess so. 676 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,919 Speaker 8: But I'll be honest, though I did see before. What's 677 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 8: the face? Most wonderful? Ozzie Osborne actually fell asleep in 678 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,879 Speaker 8: this concert. Don't ask me how I did, but I did. 679 00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 4: That's not good. 680 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:04,279 Speaker 3: How about now, what's since we're just chatting here, what's 681 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 3: the greatest rock song of all time? 682 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 6: Oh? 683 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:15,440 Speaker 8: Bloody hell, I would say that she wins not Jesus. 684 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:16,720 Speaker 2: No, you put me on the spot. 685 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's okay. You can change your ry tomorrow while 686 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:20,920 Speaker 4: you're thinking, I'll give you mind. 687 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:23,839 Speaker 5: Go ahead, okay, I. 688 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 3: Mean, of course it always changes. And there's one part 689 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,799 Speaker 3: of the song it's a little weird, but I don't 690 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:36,719 Speaker 3: see how you beat the urgent, driving, primal rock of 691 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 3: a Whole Lot of Love by led Zeppelin. 692 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 5: I mean, how do you Oh my gosh, yes, for sure, how. 693 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,359 Speaker 4: Do you beat that? And it's such a simple. 694 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,440 Speaker 5: You can't, no, you cannot. 695 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:49,600 Speaker 4: It's outstanding. 696 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 3: And lately I've been watching a lot of YouTube videos 697 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 3: of classic rock or all kinds of rock, and yeah, 698 00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,440 Speaker 3: there's one video of led Zeppelin seems to be pretty 699 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,800 Speaker 3: early because they're all. 700 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 4: Super skinny, and he introduces the band kind of like some. 701 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,680 Speaker 3: People might not know who they were, like, this is 702 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:15,279 Speaker 3: a Jimmy page on the guitar, and it was it 703 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,200 Speaker 3: was a whole lot of no excuse me, it was 704 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,640 Speaker 3: how many more Times? There was this big, long version 705 00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,000 Speaker 3: of how many More Times? And I see that and 706 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:28,320 Speaker 3: I'm just blown away by the power of those guys. 707 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,279 Speaker 3: And you know, there wasn't a hope. We're not a 708 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 3: whole lot of people there, but the whole was really 709 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:39,920 Speaker 3: more than the some of the parts. And I have 710 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,799 Speaker 3: to admit I was never a giant Hoo fan, but 711 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 3: I don't have anything against it. 712 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:47,280 Speaker 4: I don't know why they were in, they were around. 713 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,719 Speaker 3: I appreciate him, but they never rocked my They never 714 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:55,040 Speaker 3: rung my bell like Zeppelin rang my bell. 715 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,239 Speaker 8: Right, Well, maybe you got uncomfortably numb, you know what 716 00:41:58,239 --> 00:41:58,720 Speaker 8: I'm saying. 717 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:05,399 Speaker 3: Yes, maybe it could be so out there in Napa Vlli. 718 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,960 Speaker 3: Do they give free wine to everybody, like every our 719 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,080 Speaker 3: residents getting like a keg of free wine? 720 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:11,040 Speaker 8: No? 721 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:11,680 Speaker 7: Not really? 722 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,360 Speaker 3: All right, then forget it. I'm not coming Sky. What 723 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 3: a great call. Thank you so much. And Alia, it's great. 724 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:21,920 Speaker 3: I feel like you're warming up to me a little bit. 725 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,560 Speaker 3: And a few more calls. I really hope that when 726 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,200 Speaker 3: you call, it's a pleasant experience, and that if you 727 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,400 Speaker 3: haven't ever called, that you screw up your courage and 728 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,279 Speaker 3: do it, because once you do it, you'll have a 729 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 3: whole new voice and a whole new community that will 730 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,520 Speaker 3: be you know, your friends, your community. Thanks Rob Brooks, 731 00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,040 Speaker 3: Thanks to all my guess it's WBZ. Oh, thanks to 732 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:42,759 Speaker 3: Dan Ray It's w b Z.