WEBVTT - 10-30-25 Scott Sloan Show 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:01.640 Don't want to be an American. 0:00:02.920 --> 0:00:05.359 It's got so lung. Show back on seven hundred, wolbody 0:00:05.400 --> 0:00:08.480 got an election coming up Tuesday. Levees in a dozen places, 0:00:08.560 --> 0:00:12.399 local offices, and there's a big CPS renewal. We've got 0:00:12.440 --> 0:00:14.840 the mayor's race, of course, and some twenty six people. 0:00:14.880 --> 0:00:17.799 It feels like three thousand people trying to place in 0:00:17.880 --> 0:00:20.000 the top nine. So twenty six people looking for nine 0:00:20.079 --> 0:00:22.439 jobs in a Sea Down council on this and more. 0:00:22.680 --> 0:00:26.119 Is the person who controls it all. That would be 0:00:26.160 --> 0:00:29.480 the director of the Hamlet County Board of Elections, Sherry Poland, 0:00:29.480 --> 0:00:30.280 welcome back. How are you. 0:00:31.480 --> 0:00:33.360 I'm doing well, Thanks for having me. 0:00:33.440 --> 0:00:35.240 You always in a good mood. This is like right now 0:00:35.280 --> 0:00:37.479 I would be just crabby af you know what I mean, 0:00:37.520 --> 0:00:39.200 because you got so much coming at you right now. 0:00:39.840 --> 0:00:41.479 All right, so we'll start with this. The polls up 0:00:41.479 --> 0:00:44.680 on Tuesday, six thirty am to seven thirty I believe correct. 0:00:45.240 --> 0:00:47.840 That's crack six thirty am to seven thirty pm. 0:00:48.159 --> 0:00:50.440 Don't forget the driver's license. 0:00:51.600 --> 0:00:55.080 That's correct, that's correct. A few years ago, Hi Ohio 0:00:55.200 --> 0:00:59.560 changed these acceptable forms of ID for voting, so in 0:00:59.640 --> 0:01:01.880 order to vote in person, you do need to have 0:01:01.960 --> 0:01:05.240 a State of Ohio driver's license or a State of 0:01:05.280 --> 0:01:10.520 Ohio identification card, or a passport or military ID. So 0:01:10.760 --> 0:01:14.160 make sure it's not expired. Make sure it's up to 0:01:14.360 --> 0:01:16.320 date before you come to the polls. 0:01:16.360 --> 0:01:19.400 Okay, I bring one that's expired, I forget it. What happens, 0:01:19.400 --> 0:01:20.640 I can vote. 0:01:21.080 --> 0:01:24.520 No problem. If you do not have an acceptable form 0:01:24.560 --> 0:01:27.280 of ID, you will be issued what we call a 0:01:27.319 --> 0:01:30.399 provisional ballot. It's the same ballot that's issued to every 0:01:30.480 --> 0:01:34.680 other voter you would market, but instead of scanning it 0:01:34.760 --> 0:01:38.600 and having it counted election night, it's placed inside what 0:01:38.640 --> 0:01:41.480 we call a provisional envelope and that has your identifying 0:01:41.520 --> 0:01:45.480 information on it. You fill that out after election day. 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:49.720 Bipartisan teams verify the information on the envelope, and the 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:53.560 voter has four days after election day, so that's the 0:01:53.600 --> 0:01:56.320 Saturday after election Day to come to the Board of 0:01:56.320 --> 0:02:00.560 Elections and present an acceptable form of ID. They do, 0:02:00.840 --> 0:02:03.440 then that ballot will be added to the official count, 0:02:03.480 --> 0:02:07.880 which occurs a few weeks after election day. I do 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:10.560 want to note that if you're in fign yourself in 0:02:10.560 --> 0:02:13.119 that situation right now, so your driver's license or state 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:16.440 idea is expired. Go to the BMV before you come 0:02:16.480 --> 0:02:20.560 to the polls. That interim documentation that the BMB gives 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:24.880 you while your identifications being mailed to you, that interim 0:02:24.919 --> 0:02:29.000 idea that's good for driving purposes, it's also acceptable for voting. 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:31.079 So if you have that, you will not have to 0:02:31.160 --> 0:02:31.840 vote provisionally. 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:34.440 Okay, got it. Let's talk about the early voting numbers, 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:37.560 how early voting the absentee ballots, and how did the 0:02:37.600 --> 0:02:40.680 request compared to previous elections and what does that tell 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:41.840 you about what's going to happen Tuesday? 0:02:42.880 --> 0:02:46.040 Yeah, So absent te voting, which is that umbrella that 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:50.080 contains both voting by mail and early in person voting. 0:02:50.520 --> 0:02:54.840 We're pretty much right on track as to the twenty 0:02:54.919 --> 0:02:58.600 twenty one election. So four years ago, once again Cincinnati 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:02.280 was voting council members and this election, that turnout is 0:03:02.440 --> 0:03:06.400 tracking right on pace with that twenty twenty one election. 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:10.400 Okay, compare that to like a presidential cycle, the last 0:03:10.600 --> 0:03:14.680 presidential election, so one percent. Okay, what are we talking? 0:03:15.680 --> 0:03:16.560 Yeah, So in. 0:03:16.600 --> 0:03:20.160 Twenty twenty one, county wide, we saw a twenty six 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:24.959 percent turnout. City Cincinnati is slightly lower, a twenty five percent. 0:03:25.120 --> 0:03:28.160 Compare that to a presidential where we see a seventy 0:03:28.240 --> 0:03:33.040 two percent turnout. So unfortunately, we don't see the turnout 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:36.440 in odd numbered years elections than we do in the 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:40.400 even years. But you know, we it's kind of hard 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:43.160 for us in the business to understand why that happens 0:03:43.320 --> 0:03:48.200 because we are voting for our local elected officials. These 0:03:48.240 --> 0:03:50.520 are the folks that really have an impact on our 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:53.200 day to day lives. So I encourage everyone if you 0:03:53.280 --> 0:03:56.920 haven't voted yet, voted yet early voting in person is 0:03:57.000 --> 0:04:01.480 still ongoing through Sunday, and you know your polls will 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:03.960 be open in your community on election day, get out 0:04:03.960 --> 0:04:04.320 and vote. 0:04:05.200 --> 0:04:07.240 I would say it's simply but it's marketing, I think right, 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:09.520 because in a presidential cycle, it's in your face all 0:04:09.560 --> 0:04:12.000 the time. You're getting tons of robo calls, social media 0:04:12.080 --> 0:04:15.440 feed is packed with political messages and bickering. You turn 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:18.160 on a streaming show or TV and you're inundated with 0:04:18.240 --> 0:04:21.560 political messages, president presidential races front and center, And I 0:04:21.760 --> 0:04:24.200 think it just the marketing drives more people to polls. 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:24.840 That's my theory. 0:04:26.320 --> 0:04:29.360 Yeah. Absolutely. Something else we see is that you know, 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:33.200 sometimes controversial issues will bring voters out to the polls. 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:36.680 So two years ago, twenty twenty three odd year, you know, 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:42.679 election again, looking electing local officials, we saw a higher turnout. 0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:44.960 I think we saw a forty eight percent turnout in 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:48.680 twenty twenty three. But that your abortion, marijuana, we're both 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:53.000 on the ballot. So the issues can also drive out turnout. 0:04:53.160 --> 0:04:55.000 Yeah, yeah, and I think me and that's probably a 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:56.800 good point too, is the more globally issued. That's a 0:04:56.800 --> 0:04:59.280 state issue. But everyone's like, okay, I can identify with that. 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:02.680 You start talking about millage and levees and school boards 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:05.560 and dogcatchers, people's eyes glaze over, rightly or wrongly. I 0:05:05.600 --> 0:05:08.360 think that's how we're programs. Like I got my ballot 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:10.000 where we just moved to and looked at, and there 0:05:10.000 --> 0:05:11.680 were like three or four things on there, and most 0:05:11.760 --> 0:05:15.160 of them were fairly inane. There's a levee issue, which 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:16.840 I voted on, but the other ones were like, I 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:19.320 don't know who these people are. Did some research found 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:21.160 out some of them? Other ones I just and the 0:05:21.240 --> 0:05:23.360 ones I looked at when I have no idea who 0:05:23.360 --> 0:05:24.880 they are, I can't find any information on them. I 0:05:25.000 --> 0:05:27.000 just left blank, which you can do. 0:05:27.120 --> 0:05:28.560 You can do. 0:05:28.640 --> 0:05:31.600 You can absolutely skip the contest. That is your right 0:05:32.080 --> 0:05:34.360 to do that. But I think you bring up another 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:37.240 very good point, and that is to become an informed voter. 0:05:38.000 --> 0:05:40.120 And it's easy to do if you vote by mail 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:42.400 because that ballot is mail to your house. You can 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:45.799 fit take your time to the research. However, for this election, 0:05:45.960 --> 0:05:50.080 voting by mail has ended. That ended on Tuesday. Anyone 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:52.440 who wished to vote by mail had to submit an 0:05:52.440 --> 0:05:55.479 application to the board by this past Tuesday, Chamber twenty, 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:58.000 so voting by mail has ended. But what you can 0:05:58.080 --> 0:06:00.040 do if you are going to vote in person and 0:06:00.440 --> 0:06:03.679 is go on to our website Vote Hamilton County, Ohio 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:06.880 dot gov. Vote Hamilton County, Ohio dot gov. Go onto 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:09.040 our website and you can look up your sample ballot 0:06:09.680 --> 0:06:13.040 on our website so it looks almost identical to the 0:06:13.120 --> 0:06:15.480 ballot you'll received when you walk into the polling place. 0:06:15.800 --> 0:06:18.719 So review ahead of time, do your research like you did, 0:06:19.000 --> 0:06:22.560 and become an informed voter so there's no surprises when 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:24.520 you walk into the polling place. You can go in 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:26.800 knowing how you want to cast your ballot. 0:06:26.920 --> 0:06:29.320 Scott's Onland with Sherry Poland. She's the director Hamilin County 0:06:29.360 --> 0:06:31.360 Board of Elections got the election coming up Tuesday. If 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:34.800 you're in person, at six point thirty relative to that, Sherry, 0:06:35.080 --> 0:06:37.200 you know, you mentioned the twenty right around twenty six 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:39.640 percent turnout right around that maybe twenty five one out 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:43.120 every four voters in the city. And sometimes issues will 0:06:43.160 --> 0:06:45.600 bring out more people on off year elections, as this 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:47.200 one is because you don't have the hype of the 0:06:47.240 --> 0:06:50.440 presidential I understand that, and I think people are just 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:52.400 fatigued too going I'm going to take a knee here 0:06:52.440 --> 0:06:54.080 this year. I don't need to show. But I thought, 0:06:54.120 --> 0:06:56.720 you know, with the crime issue in Cincinnati, and I 0:06:56.839 --> 0:06:59.080 know you can't get in and that's not your area concern, 0:06:59.160 --> 0:07:01.400 you're just managing the election. But I thought, for sure, 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:03.880 with the interesting crime downtown and the number of people 0:07:03.960 --> 0:07:07.240 running for counsel, that would I get I guess, maybe 0:07:07.320 --> 0:07:08.120 drive more people out. 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:11.840 That surprised me, you know, and it's still a possibility 0:07:11.880 --> 0:07:14.480 on election day. You know, the majority of voters in 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:19.200 Hamilton County still choose to vote on election day, so 0:07:19.600 --> 0:07:21.680 you know, we might see that higher turnout come. 0:07:21.800 --> 0:07:21.960 Then. 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:25.040 You know, I don't have a crystal ball that tells 0:07:25.120 --> 0:07:28.240 me that, but we'll find out on Tuesday. 0:07:28.760 --> 0:07:32.640 Yeah, exact, we'll find out together on Tuesday. Regarding that too, 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:34.560 how many more people this year And I'm sure you're 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:37.160 looking at the trend and it's just align almost straight upward. 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:39.080 I would guess the number of people taking advantage of 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:41.840 the very generous way we can vote early in the 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:44.640 Buckeye State, where like me, I just would rather have 0:07:44.720 --> 0:07:46.400 it mail to my house. I'd get a cup of coffee, 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:48.760 sit there on a Sunday afternoon morning, I guess before 0:07:48.800 --> 0:07:51.200 football and figure out who I'm and what I'm voting for, 0:07:51.360 --> 0:07:53.280 do a little research. Whereas typically you don't have that 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:55.800 kind of time. You feel pressured if you're standing there 0:07:55.840 --> 0:07:57.880 in queue, and then you know, getting into the booth 0:07:57.920 --> 0:08:01.840 itself to actually punch the draw the little circles. I guess, 0:08:01.920 --> 0:08:04.360 not punched the card, but draw the circle. This is 0:08:04.400 --> 0:08:06.120 easier to know how many more people are taking advantage? 0:08:06.120 --> 0:08:08.080 Are we seeing the trend continue upward? 0:08:09.600 --> 0:08:12.560 What we're seeing continue to trend upward is the early 0:08:12.760 --> 0:08:17.480 in person voting. It's just become, you know, extremely extremely 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:20.480 popular in Hamilton County. It started when we moved the 0:08:20.520 --> 0:08:24.320 Board of Elections away from downtown to our current facility 0:08:24.360 --> 0:08:27.400 in Norwood. You know, it's more centrally located in the 0:08:27.480 --> 0:08:31.240 county that we serve. We have you know, a large 0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:34.960 amount of free public parking, and that's that is what's 0:08:35.000 --> 0:08:38.800 trending upward, is that early in person vote voting every 0:08:38.880 --> 0:08:42.600 election we outpass the last similar election. When it comes 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:47.120 to that, voting by mail is you know, sort of 0:08:47.160 --> 0:08:51.559 holding study or maybe dropping slightly. You know, during twenty twenty, 0:08:51.760 --> 0:08:58.079 we had many many people vote by mail, obviously due 0:08:58.120 --> 0:09:02.480 to the pandemic, and we thought that perhaps that trend 0:09:02.559 --> 0:09:04.839 would continue because now we have so many people that 0:09:04.960 --> 0:09:07.760 were never exposed to voting by mail before, they might 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:10.920 have found it to be very convenient. But that didn't happen. 0:09:11.120 --> 0:09:13.640 After twenty twenty, we went back to the majority of 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:17.360 Hamilt's County voters casting their ballot the traditional way at 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:18.320 the polling place. 0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:19.680 On election I hate that's happening. 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:23.800 I don't know, you know, I think one way. You know, 0:09:23.920 --> 0:09:26.800 we live in the Midwest. We like our traditions. You know, 0:09:26.880 --> 0:09:28.439 I know a lot of people that say to me, 0:09:28.679 --> 0:09:30.880 you know, no, I go into my polling place on 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:33.439 election day. That's a sacred day to me. That's what 0:09:33.600 --> 0:09:36.079 I do and I'm not going to deviate, you know, 0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:40.240 from that, which you know, I think is interesting. Then 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:42.120 we have a lot of people with the early voting. 0:09:42.200 --> 0:09:44.719 You know, we have voting for almost a month at 0:09:44.760 --> 0:09:46.960 our Early Vote Center, and it is and people find 0:09:47.000 --> 0:09:49.120 it to be, you know, extremely convenient. 0:09:50.280 --> 0:09:51.040 I will note. 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:54.040 Obviously, on election day you must go to your assigned 0:09:54.120 --> 0:09:57.480 polling place, which is based on where you live, whereas 0:09:57.480 --> 0:10:00.599 at the Early Vote Center, you know, anyone who no 0:10:00.720 --> 0:10:03.000 matter where you live in Hamilton Counties, your registered voter, 0:10:03.080 --> 0:10:04.920 you can come and vote the Early Vote Center. So 0:10:05.040 --> 0:10:08.200 many times we see families coming together so where they 0:10:08.320 --> 0:10:11.079 might be you know, assigned to different polling places because 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:13.320 they don't all live, you know, in the same home. 0:10:13.760 --> 0:10:15.240 We see a lot of people sort of making a 0:10:15.320 --> 0:10:18.480 family event and coming together the early votes thatenter, then 0:10:18.520 --> 0:10:20.800 going going out to eat or something like that afterwards, 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:23.959 or sort of the stories that we that we hear, 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:27.280 and again it's it's extremely convenient. And the hours that 0:10:27.400 --> 0:10:30.680 we have I will note we're open today and tomorrow 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:34.800 from seven thirty am to seven thirty pm Saturday eight 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:38.319 am to four pm. Early voting ends on Sunday and 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:41.439 it's the shortest hours we have by state law. We're 0:10:41.520 --> 0:10:44.240 open from one pm to five pm on Sunday, so 0:10:44.440 --> 0:10:47.440 still plenty of time to come on and vote early 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:48.240 in person at. 0:10:48.240 --> 0:10:51.240 The board Cherry Poland with all the event of early voting, 0:10:51.360 --> 0:10:53.720 and you know, they're still traditional south there. I don't 0:10:53.760 --> 0:10:57.000 know how young people do that, because you know young people, 0:10:57.240 --> 0:10:58.880 they'll probably mail it in. I mean, if you could 0:10:58.920 --> 0:11:00.559 text your vote in, they probably all over that. I 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:03.120 would guess maybe I'd be that way too, I suppose. 0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:06.600 But how is this changing how you tabulate the elections? 0:11:06.640 --> 0:11:08.480 And normally you're sitting around waiting for the results to 0:11:08.520 --> 0:11:10.200 come in. Sometimes it's the middle of the night when 0:11:10.240 --> 0:11:13.040 they come. You know, if you're voting early, either in person, 0:11:13.120 --> 0:11:16.000 by mail or however, you have those votes and of 0:11:16.080 --> 0:11:17.839 course you have them in hand and you're ready to 0:11:18.000 --> 0:11:22.360 release those results the minute the polls closed. So you 0:11:22.480 --> 0:11:24.280 got a lot of stuff done up front, so to speak. 0:11:24.320 --> 0:11:26.720 How's that changed your job? And also when the results 0:11:26.760 --> 0:11:28.880 come out, Yeah, that's. 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:31.720 A great question. You know, in the state of Ohio, 0:11:32.320 --> 0:11:36.079 we are permitted election officials are permitted to process those 0:11:36.200 --> 0:11:38.640 vote by mail ballots as soon as they come in. 0:11:38.800 --> 0:11:41.000 You have a handful of states that won't allow the 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:45.720 election officials to begin those acts of preparation until election warning. 0:11:46.000 --> 0:11:48.880 But in Ohio, we can verify all the information that's 0:11:48.920 --> 0:11:51.600 contained on the envelope ahead of time as soon as 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:54.280 we receive it. Once we determine that that vote by 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:58.360 mail ballot is accepted for counting, we remove the ballot. 0:11:58.720 --> 0:12:02.480 It scanned, it's not tabulated, it's scanned, and the cast 0:12:02.640 --> 0:12:06.160 vote record is what we call it is stored. And 0:12:06.240 --> 0:12:09.200 then the ballot is stored in a secure facility here 0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:12.120 at the Ware of Elections. Then on election night, as 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:15.040 soon as the polls closed at seven point thirty one PM, 0:12:15.679 --> 0:12:18.960 we then hit the tabulate button, so the no ballots 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:22.000 are counted until the polls closed, but we are permitted 0:12:22.080 --> 0:12:24.160 to do those acts of preparation. 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:26.440 Yeah, scam, get him ready to go, so that makes 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:28.600 the results come in here. And that's a big question here, 0:12:28.720 --> 0:12:32.240 Sherry Poland. Is it's not about you know, free and 0:12:32.320 --> 0:12:36.240 open elections and exercising your constitutional right to cast your 0:12:36.320 --> 0:12:39.760 vote one person, one voice, and one vote, as the 0:12:39.800 --> 0:12:42.280 case may be. This is not about that. This is 0:12:42.320 --> 0:12:45.760 about Brian Combs, our assistant news director wants to know 0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:47.959 what time he can go home on Tuesday Tuesday night. 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:53.079 Again, I don't have a crystal ball that would that 0:12:53.160 --> 0:12:57.240 would tell me that. We hope, always hope at one 0:12:57.320 --> 0:13:01.839 hundred to be one hundred percent report before eleven pm, 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:05.840 you know. And again just to talk a little bit 0:13:05.840 --> 0:13:08.600 more about the election night count and how that works. 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:11.679 We mentioned the early votes best early in person and 0:13:11.800 --> 0:13:14.240 by mail are the very first ballots that are tabulated 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:16.840 and released on election night, and then it's a little 0:13:16.840 --> 0:13:20.280 bit of a waiting game for those ballots to come 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:24.559 in from the polling places all across Hamilton County. And 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:27.880 that's because our voting equipment is not connected to the internet. 0:13:27.960 --> 0:13:30.199 In fact, it doesn't they don't even have the capability 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:33.200 of being connected to the internet. So the physical delivery 0:13:33.360 --> 0:13:36.440 of the ballots and the equipment from the bipartisan poll 0:13:36.520 --> 0:13:40.400 workers to the bipartisan teams at the Board of Elections, 0:13:40.720 --> 0:13:42.719 so it takes a little time for them to come in. 0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:46.600 So we'll usually we have a few early pickup locations 0:13:46.679 --> 0:13:50.040 will actually send teams out from the Board so we 0:13:50.120 --> 0:13:54.199 can have some results trickling in early, you know, usually 0:13:54.280 --> 0:13:57.560 between eight thirty and nine, but the majority of those 0:13:57.600 --> 0:14:01.480 ballots arrives at the board around nine, so that's typically 0:14:01.559 --> 0:14:04.240 when we start to see you know, most of the 0:14:04.320 --> 0:14:07.280 results come in between nine thirty and ten thirty, and 0:14:07.640 --> 0:14:09.760 again we always hope to be at one hundred percent, 0:14:10.720 --> 0:14:13.000 you know, before before eleven o'clock. We know it's a 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:16.040 long day. We know everyone is anxiously awaiting and constantly 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:19.040 hitting that refresh button. But you know, a latch and 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:22.800 officials will never trade you know, security and accuracy for speed. 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:23.200 Gotcha. 0:14:23.320 --> 0:14:25.280 I'll just have to be a little bit patient to 0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:27.680 make sure the results coming in are accuracy. 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:30.200 I know you have last minute preparations. You got to 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:33.040 go check the tires, make sure the dipstick has oil 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:35.400 in it. You got to go make sure the voting machines, 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:38.080 everything's ready to go. You're a busy lady. I always 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:41.000 appreciate it talking to you and enjoy our conversations and 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:43.920 appreciate what you do for democracy. It's an important thing, 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:46.360 even especially in off years when you have lower turnout 0:14:46.400 --> 0:14:48.960 and probably fewer workers to deal with, et cetera. So 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:51.280 all the best, Jerry Poland thanks again for coming on 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:53.600 the show. How about a nice quiet Tuesday, does that 0:14:53.680 --> 0:14:54.120 sound good. 0:14:55.160 --> 0:14:56.360 That sounds wonderful to me. 0:14:57.320 --> 0:15:00.600 It's fuzz you've seen some stuff, yeah we have. 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:03.240 But we have a great team here at the Board 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:06.000 of Election. I cannot praise the staff here and now 0:15:06.000 --> 0:15:08.840 if it's truly a place where Democrats and Republicans come 0:15:08.920 --> 0:15:10.720 together to do the people's work. 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:12.640 So got to have a shout out to them all 0:15:12.680 --> 0:15:15.560 the best, Cherry, be well, good luck, Thank you much, 0:15:15.880 --> 0:15:18.680 Sherry poland that as you're a director Hamiley County Board 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:22.560 of Elections and love it. She's great. She's just a 0:15:22.800 --> 0:15:25.280 great personnel, a great person and really cares about her 0:15:25.360 --> 0:15:27.800 job and the integrity of the election above all else. 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:30.360 So six thirty am Tuesday, if you're an in person voter, 0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:33.960 go get it done. If you already did it, like me, 0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:36.080 you just sit back and wait for results to come in. 0:15:36.160 --> 0:15:38.120 And I have no idea what to tell Brian Combs. 0:15:38.160 --> 0:15:39.640 This is all about Colms is like, Hey, you're talking 0:15:39.640 --> 0:15:41.640 to Sherry Paul. Ask her when she thinks I can 0:15:41.720 --> 0:15:45.960 go home. It's all about him, you know this, this 0:15:46.080 --> 0:15:49.000 democracy of two hundred and fifty years still a long time. 0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:53.040 And we tabulate the elections and sometimes they're contentious, Sometimes 0:15:53.120 --> 0:15:56.560 we fight two thousand comes to mind, and basically they're 0:15:56.560 --> 0:15:58.800 in the odds. We had a lot of contentious elections. 0:15:59.120 --> 0:16:01.680 Along came early voting kind of eased the process, made 0:16:01.680 --> 0:16:02.520 a little bit easier. 0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:03.760 You know. 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:05.760 It wasn't like three or four o'clock in the morning. 0:16:06.560 --> 0:16:09.440 There weren't all these few challenges and stuff like that, 0:16:09.520 --> 0:16:11.120 especially on off here. We're not going to get that 0:16:11.640 --> 0:16:14.600 all Brian Combs wants to know, despite all of that history, 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:18.280 despite it being the cornerstone of our constitution, of our 0:16:18.320 --> 0:16:21.880 whal life here in America, one person, one vote, all 0:16:21.960 --> 0:16:24.760 Brian Combs cares about is what time he can go 0:16:24.880 --> 0:16:29.040 home and have a beer. Scott's Loan Show seven hundred 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:35.560 w weld Slowly seven hundred WLW interesting. Sherry poland director 0:16:35.680 --> 0:16:37.640 Hamlin County Boe just on the show last half hour. 0:16:37.680 --> 0:16:39.680 If you missed, it'll be on the podcast following the show. 0:16:43.560 --> 0:16:43.760 Yeah. 0:16:43.800 --> 0:16:45.840 The turnout so far, the projection is right around twenty 0:16:45.840 --> 0:16:47.960 five twenty six percent, which is where we've been in 0:16:48.080 --> 0:16:51.960 previous elections. I'm not that politically savvy to analyze it 0:16:52.040 --> 0:16:53.800 and break it down like Chuck Todd and tell you 0:16:53.880 --> 0:16:55.800 what all that means. And reading the tea leaves because 0:16:55.800 --> 0:16:59.800 generally even people like that are notoriously wrong about those projections. 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:03.040 Don't know if that helps or hurts the incumbents, and 0:17:03.120 --> 0:17:05.040 that would be the members of council. But in particular, 0:17:05.880 --> 0:17:07.760 this is going to be somewhat of a referendum on 0:17:08.240 --> 0:17:10.840 AFT to have pure vol. Pure vol most likely is 0:17:10.880 --> 0:17:14.960 gonna win. Right, you have incredible amount of funding. You 0:17:15.080 --> 0:17:18.240 have the deep blue democratic machine of Hamlin County and 0:17:18.320 --> 0:17:21.760 therefore the city Cincinnati even deeper blue because you don't 0:17:21.800 --> 0:17:22.800 have the outlying suburbs. 0:17:24.280 --> 0:17:24.359 Uh. 0:17:24.480 --> 0:17:26.680 That and the fact you're the incumbent. It's kind of 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:29.200 an off year. There's not really big issues out there. Yeah, 0:17:29.280 --> 0:17:32.919 maybe to some degree CPS, but that's a renewal levee. Uh, 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:36.200 nobody's really driving the vote out here. Does that help 0:17:36.280 --> 0:17:38.840 or her to AFT have pure vol? But not AFT 0:17:38.920 --> 0:17:42.399 have because I think he wins maybe a little closer 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:45.680 than he'd like for sure. And it's not an you know, 0:17:45.760 --> 0:17:48.000 it's certainly not an indictment of Corey Bowman in his 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:50.120 campaign at that did a pretty good job, But there's 0:17:50.200 --> 0:17:52.520 baggage there in deep blue Hamlet County. Being the brother 0:17:52.560 --> 0:17:59.360 of JD. Vans, and being a Republican. But I think 0:17:59.480 --> 0:18:01.879 though that I would have been around long enough to 0:18:01.960 --> 0:18:05.200 maybe see this is that you wonder though, if the 0:18:05.320 --> 0:18:07.800 voters aren't going to take it out on Counsole. So 0:18:07.960 --> 0:18:11.400 you have twenty six people running for nine seats, something's 0:18:11.440 --> 0:18:14.400 gonna give, And I wonder what counseol looks like come 0:18:14.440 --> 0:18:18.200 Wednesday morning at that point, or shockingly, what if the 0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:20.520 same nine people or maybe I don't know, one or 0:18:20.560 --> 0:18:24.719 two change the body of Counsole. I don't think you're 0:18:24.720 --> 0:18:26.240 going to see you know, we'll throw all the bums 0:18:26.280 --> 0:18:28.600 out kind of mentality, but it's gonna be interesting. But 0:18:28.680 --> 0:18:31.520 the turnout, you think with crime being center stage, and 0:18:32.200 --> 0:18:34.680 I'll have Liz keating on it later on the show, 0:18:34.680 --> 0:18:37.920 actually ten oh seven this morning, I'll ask her specifically 0:18:37.920 --> 0:18:39.840 about what she's seeing on the streets because she's working 0:18:39.920 --> 0:18:42.920 really hard, seeing a lot. She's been really aggressive campaigning, 0:18:43.080 --> 0:18:45.200 a lot of money behind her, a lot of TV ads, 0:18:45.240 --> 0:18:49.000 a lot of print, a lot of social media signage 0:18:49.040 --> 0:18:52.359 and stuff like that. So she's really leaning her shoulder 0:18:52.400 --> 0:18:54.119 in this what I'd be surprised if she doesn't win 0:18:54.200 --> 0:18:55.960 a seed at this point, as hard as she's worked 0:18:56.000 --> 0:18:57.920 and also the track record and say what she says 0:18:57.920 --> 0:19:00.399 about all this stuff. And yesterday, of course the drama, 0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:03.200 the steady direct from city council. It's like, people go, 0:19:03.320 --> 0:19:04.920 why are you still talking? Why do you talk about 0:19:04.920 --> 0:19:08.879 this every day? Because every day there's something new. You know, 0:19:09.080 --> 0:19:11.800 before the day before it was well, now the city's 0:19:11.840 --> 0:19:14.240 hiring a law firm for forty to fifty grand to 0:19:14.760 --> 0:19:17.560 find out why we fired Terry Thigi after we fired 0:19:17.560 --> 0:19:21.560 her what And then yesterday it was friends and family 0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:24.560 members of Terry Thigi wearing I Support Chief thig t 0:19:24.680 --> 0:19:28.040 shirt showing up to council and having their saying really 0:19:28.200 --> 0:19:30.479 going at city council. I think there's a thing too 0:19:30.520 --> 0:19:33.280 for most people, you know, average voters, people show up 0:19:33.320 --> 0:19:35.159 that probably maybe just every four years, even for a 0:19:35.200 --> 0:19:38.800 presidential if that is like, don't understand how it all 0:19:38.840 --> 0:19:42.280 works with council that they essentially control the purse strings. 0:19:42.320 --> 0:19:45.679 But okay, so Afteb's the mayor and then you get 0:19:45.720 --> 0:19:48.679 your along the city manager and then when they fire Thiji, 0:19:49.080 --> 0:19:51.080 Afteb says, well that's a city manager. You're gonna have 0:19:51.119 --> 0:19:52.920 to hit her. And then the city manager says, well, 0:19:53.480 --> 0:19:56.320 I can't really comment the personnel issue. So you've got 0:19:56.359 --> 0:19:59.000 all these people with just ample amounts of cover, and 0:19:59.440 --> 0:20:01.960 the mayor will blame council, council blame the city manager's 0:20:02.000 --> 0:20:05.159 city manager blames the council, and it's just there's no 0:20:05.200 --> 0:20:08.160 accountability there. And I think the core of it, that's 0:20:08.160 --> 0:20:12.080 what's frustrating that in the just the dire, the horrible 0:20:12.160 --> 0:20:18.520 lack of communication from this administration on help plowing the streets, 0:20:18.960 --> 0:20:21.520 fixing the potholes. You know, they had a what was 0:20:21.560 --> 0:20:23.200 it in a contest for people to come up with 0:20:23.320 --> 0:20:26.199 ways to let the city know where the potholes are? Well, 0:20:26.240 --> 0:20:31.760 what the hell is that? We had the big mac 0:20:31.960 --> 0:20:35.679 Bridge fire? How is that handled poorly? You can't, of course, 0:20:36.000 --> 0:20:38.440 expect to have the city streets now to wash with 0:20:38.520 --> 0:20:40.600 traffic when you close a major artery like that. I 0:20:40.680 --> 0:20:43.840 get that, but it took two weeks before anybody said, oh, yeah, 0:20:43.880 --> 0:20:47.320 we probably should come up with a plan here. And 0:20:47.440 --> 0:20:49.359 I could go on and on about the violence this summer, 0:20:49.359 --> 0:20:51.280 and that's what voters are staring at. We'll find out 0:20:51.320 --> 0:20:53.160 on Tuesday, as they say, and I know that goes 0:20:53.200 --> 0:20:56.359 without saying, but I'm interested see what the fallout is 0:20:56.440 --> 0:20:58.880 from this whole thing, if any because I'll be honest 0:20:58.920 --> 0:21:01.359 with you, if nothing were changes here and you're in 0:21:01.400 --> 0:21:03.000 the city and you're concerned about this stuff, and just 0:21:03.119 --> 0:21:05.800 vote for these same people you've always voted for. You 0:21:05.880 --> 0:21:07.560 know what, I don't get it. We just had a 0:21:07.600 --> 0:21:11.639 no King's protest and there's a lot of overlap. Now 0:21:11.680 --> 0:21:13.920 there are different different beliefs, but there's a lot of 0:21:13.920 --> 0:21:16.480 overlap between what we're talking about with the mayor of 0:21:16.520 --> 0:21:19.040 Cincinnati and the President of the United States. And so 0:21:19.520 --> 0:21:21.600 if you're really anti one, I don't know how this 0:21:21.720 --> 0:21:25.160 isn't creep in and go wow, we've got a leadership 0:21:25.160 --> 0:21:27.440 problem in this country, whether it's Democrats or Republicans for 0:21:27.520 --> 0:21:29.440 that matter. Anyway, more than that ten oh seven list 0:21:29.520 --> 0:21:32.040 keating Council. I'm looking to get back into council here 0:21:32.520 --> 0:21:33.879 and we'll get to her coming up in just a 0:21:33.920 --> 0:21:36.119 few here on seven hundred WLW. You don't one of 0:21:36.160 --> 0:21:39.040 my chronic complaints, the bitch and moan factor. I don't 0:21:39.040 --> 0:21:40.520 know if it's a complaint real, it's observation. 0:21:40.680 --> 0:21:40.800 Right. 0:21:41.320 --> 0:21:42.879 I went to college, my wife went to colle who 0:21:42.920 --> 0:21:45.200 we met a college, went to university, did what we're 0:21:45.200 --> 0:21:47.480 supposed to do, because back in the eighties I would 0:21:48.040 --> 0:21:50.960 not particularly bright as you know back then, but you 0:21:51.080 --> 0:21:53.040 just needed like a pulse and a number two pencil, 0:21:53.520 --> 0:21:55.640 like yeah, you got those two things. Ah yeah, okay, 0:21:55.640 --> 0:21:58.359 come on in. We'll take you today. A whole different thing. 0:21:58.480 --> 0:22:00.680 You know, even a I don't ember say the point average. 0:22:00.960 --> 0:22:02.880 Generally a four point is a good perfect Now we've 0:22:02.920 --> 0:22:05.040 got people with above a four point grade point average 0:22:05.040 --> 0:22:07.680 and still can't get into their core classes or a 0:22:07.920 --> 0:22:13.560 program of study because we have made college more important 0:22:13.560 --> 0:22:16.359 than it should be. And I say that not because 0:22:16.400 --> 0:22:18.640 I think college is a wasted time, waste of money. 0:22:18.680 --> 0:22:21.000 It is for some people. We still need people in 0:22:21.040 --> 0:22:23.440 the stems, and there's still doctors and nurses and engineers 0:22:23.480 --> 0:22:26.800 and mathemagicians and the real fingers out there. But the 0:22:26.880 --> 0:22:29.560 problem is when you allowed the federal government to come 0:22:29.600 --> 0:22:31.800 in and make money off of this through federalizing the 0:22:31.880 --> 0:22:34.080 loans and the whole scam, and I'll call it the 0:22:34.119 --> 0:22:36.880 college scam, where you have people coming in not knowing 0:22:36.880 --> 0:22:38.119 what they're going to do. You know, it used to 0:22:38.160 --> 0:22:40.280 be go in and change your major eleven times, and 0:22:40.640 --> 0:22:41.920 you know you have your loan paid off in a 0:22:41.960 --> 0:22:43.680 reasonable bond of time. It still took my wife and 0:22:43.760 --> 0:22:46.159 I and we graduated in the early nine well, late 0:22:46.280 --> 0:22:51.399 late daies, early nineties, it still took us. Yeah, it 0:22:51.480 --> 0:22:53.040 wasn't quite ten years, but took us a while to 0:22:53.040 --> 0:22:56.119 pay those loans off. Now more chance do you have. 0:22:56.480 --> 0:22:57.800 And I think that's part of the problem. You know, 0:22:57.840 --> 0:22:59.680 if you go in you're gonna go get a degree 0:22:59.680 --> 0:23:01.679 in metater or something, but you're still going to get 0:23:01.760 --> 0:23:05.440 like a philosophy degree or archaeology or art history or 0:23:05.480 --> 0:23:07.480 something like that. I mean, why are we still offering 0:23:07.520 --> 0:23:10.080 those majors? And it's not an indictment of one university. 0:23:10.119 --> 0:23:14.359 It's a system. It's the entire system. But if you 0:23:14.400 --> 0:23:16.760 don't think it's about money, it's about higher education and 0:23:16.800 --> 0:23:19.960 the best way I don't know. I got a call 0:23:20.080 --> 0:23:23.080 like it is. So our friends at Xavier University have 0:23:23.280 --> 0:23:26.480 changed how the campus living requirement is. So starting fall 0:23:26.560 --> 0:23:29.040 of next year, if you go to x you need 0:23:29.119 --> 0:23:33.200 to live on campus now for three years. And that 0:23:33.320 --> 0:23:36.240 applies to students ages seventeen to twenty one. If you're 0:23:36.359 --> 0:23:38.680 commuting or living with a parent or guardian, different story, 0:23:38.760 --> 0:23:41.160 but they're going to force you to stay on campus 0:23:41.200 --> 0:23:44.440 now for an extra year. And unfortunately, students are not 0:23:44.560 --> 0:23:47.080 happy about this because I think the student body president 0:23:47.080 --> 0:23:49.760 said it's the most unpopular policy changed by far. Because 0:23:49.840 --> 0:23:52.080 they never asked us. We found about it on social media. 0:23:55.560 --> 0:23:57.840 Let's just and Xavier says, no, no, no, no, no, 0:23:58.000 --> 0:24:01.000 this is not this is not about money. It's this 0:24:01.160 --> 0:24:04.639 is what future students want and families want, and it's uh, 0:24:05.040 --> 0:24:08.120 it pays benefits because we tend to get higher graduation 0:24:08.320 --> 0:24:10.359 rates and there's a sense of community and other school 0:24:10.359 --> 0:24:12.200 but other schools are doing I always hate that other 0:24:12.280 --> 0:24:15.200 schools are doing it. You know, Georgetown and Notre Dame 0:24:15.240 --> 0:24:20.200 are doing it. I'm not quite sure because I'm looking 0:24:20.200 --> 0:24:25.080 at the numbers going off campus. Rent is according to 0:24:25.119 --> 0:24:29.440 the story, about five fifty a month right right around that. 0:24:29.560 --> 0:24:33.560 That's a sweet spot off campus, and then that's it. 0:24:34.320 --> 0:24:37.400 On campus housing they're getting up to like fifty six 0:24:37.520 --> 0:24:38.440 hund do per semester. 0:24:38.720 --> 0:24:39.720 So I add that up. 0:24:39.880 --> 0:24:42.800 Okay, that's five to fifty a month, five fifty six 0:24:42.920 --> 0:24:46.359 hundred for semester. But you're still talking, you know, just 0:24:46.440 --> 0:24:51.159 basic math, that's ten times more than rent. But all right, 0:24:51.240 --> 0:24:54.160 so a semester is three fee. You know, you're still 0:24:54.200 --> 0:24:57.000 paying a quite a high premium here, and you know 0:24:57.119 --> 0:24:59.800 it's between twenty seven hundred and fifty six hundred per semester, 0:25:00.000 --> 0:25:02.760 depending what kind of room you have, versus five point 0:25:02.760 --> 0:25:07.760 fifty a month. And that's a substantial price difference right there. 0:25:09.160 --> 0:25:11.440 And you know, I'm sorry when when you know they're 0:25:11.480 --> 0:25:14.040 you're dealing with and xaviers hoping about this, dealing with 0:25:14.119 --> 0:25:16.959 an operating budget. They're trying to figure out a new 0:25:17.000 --> 0:25:20.520 way to address the shortfall and the tuition revenue. When 0:25:20.560 --> 0:25:22.440 it starts to go in the other direction, though, what 0:25:22.480 --> 0:25:24.280 does that mean? You've got all these shiny business of 0:25:24.320 --> 0:25:24.879 these buildings. 0:25:25.760 --> 0:25:26.159 You have. 0:25:28.320 --> 0:25:31.280 Professors and administrators and staff you want to keep home 0:25:31.359 --> 0:25:32.920 and pay them and keep the lights. And there's a 0:25:32.920 --> 0:25:35.240 lot of overhead with this thing. But yeah, I don't know. 0:25:35.520 --> 0:25:37.400 Now we're going to going to force students to stand 0:25:37.400 --> 0:25:38.880 on campus because I think it's going to work, It's 0:25:38.880 --> 0:25:42.040 gonna be higher retention rates. I don't know if I'm 0:25:42.040 --> 0:25:44.399 buying it. I look at it more pragmatically than that 0:25:44.560 --> 0:25:47.000 and go, I think it's about money. I think it's 0:25:47.000 --> 0:25:49.399 about you all wanting to keep that cash because you 0:25:49.480 --> 0:25:52.320 move off campus. Now I'm not living the dorm. I'm 0:25:52.359 --> 0:25:54.879 living I'm doing my and what I went through it. 0:25:54.920 --> 0:25:56.600 I think at BG, when I was in the back 0:25:56.680 --> 0:25:59.879 in the day, it was two years and even that 0:26:00.080 --> 0:26:02.879 I thought that first semester, you know, first year of school, 0:26:02.920 --> 0:26:04.760 you're a freshman. You don't know what's going on, especially me. 0:26:04.800 --> 0:26:06.000 I was the first one in my family to go, 0:26:06.080 --> 0:26:08.000 so I had no guidance whatsoever. Just kind of was 0:26:08.040 --> 0:26:11.440 like feral and back. But after that first year, you 0:26:11.600 --> 0:26:13.879 kind of like, Okay, I got this down. And by 0:26:13.920 --> 0:26:16.120 the second, like the first end of the first semester, 0:26:16.280 --> 0:26:18.080 second year in the dorm, you're like, I, you know, 0:26:18.160 --> 0:26:19.399 I can't wait to get the hell out of here. 0:26:21.760 --> 0:26:23.239 I can't wait to get my own apartment. I can 0:26:23.320 --> 0:26:25.080 come and go as I please, and there's no ra 0:26:25.320 --> 0:26:26.520 and I could do we can you know, you can 0:26:26.840 --> 0:26:28.840 do beer, you know, get a keg and beer bongs 0:26:28.880 --> 0:26:31.200 and kegstands and smoke weed and stuff you can't do 0:26:31.240 --> 0:26:33.320 anymore because I think they send you to guantanamo if 0:26:33.320 --> 0:26:35.240 you sip a beer under the age of twenty one. Nonetheless, 0:26:36.440 --> 0:26:38.960 that's what we're faced with. And so that was like, yeah, 0:26:39.000 --> 0:26:41.920 two three years is just there's no reason for that 0:26:42.560 --> 0:26:45.040 builds a sense of community. I you know what, it's 0:26:45.160 --> 0:26:48.200 four years of my life, okay, and I have great 0:26:48.359 --> 0:26:51.040 I still have friends from college, sure that I don't 0:26:51.080 --> 0:26:53.359 talk to all that often, but still friends, and I 0:26:53.440 --> 0:26:55.760 probably should talk to them more. But at the same time, 0:26:55.800 --> 0:26:57.359 it's like, okay, I build that sense of community that 0:26:57.520 --> 0:26:59.439 was not a dorms. I was like extra cricketer kind 0:26:59.440 --> 0:27:03.080 of stuff. So I look at this and go, yeah, 0:27:03.080 --> 0:27:05.760 it just feels like a money grab to me. And 0:27:05.880 --> 0:27:07.520 I'm kind of with the students on that one. And 0:27:07.600 --> 0:27:09.119 it's tough enough to pay for college. I got to 0:27:09.119 --> 0:27:11.480 pay more because you're forcing me at gunpoint to stay 0:27:11.520 --> 0:27:13.760 on campus. I don't know. And maybe because it's a 0:27:13.840 --> 0:27:17.200 Jesuit private institution, maybe there's something there, but I don't. 0:27:17.200 --> 0:27:19.280 At least at a public school. It feels different to me. 0:27:20.400 --> 0:27:22.000 And we're starting to see, you know, as we have 0:27:22.119 --> 0:27:23.960 few and fewer people. I heard a story I forgot 0:27:24.000 --> 0:27:26.200 where I heard this that for the first time ever. 0:27:26.359 --> 0:27:28.320 I was in news yesterday and I forget who was 0:27:28.320 --> 0:27:30.879 saying it. But the first time in our two hundred 0:27:30.880 --> 0:27:33.760 and fifty years of existence, as a country, we have 0:27:33.920 --> 0:27:39.640 more people aged sixty and older than people I think 0:27:39.680 --> 0:27:43.760 it was eighteen and older. So you know, we're getting 0:27:43.760 --> 0:27:45.359 a lot older, getting a lot grayer, is the point, 0:27:45.520 --> 0:27:48.119 and fewer people going to college at least for an 0:27:49.040 --> 0:27:51.199 extended period of time before we start to have more 0:27:51.240 --> 0:27:55.399 babies or more immigrants with kids. Colleges are going to 0:27:55.440 --> 0:27:57.080 suffer from this, and you wonder what that's going to 0:27:57.119 --> 0:27:58.520 look like with the contraction. I would think that, and 0:27:58.600 --> 0:28:00.479 we're seeing it ready. Some colleges just simply not going 0:28:00.520 --> 0:28:02.040 to be able to survive, and they're also going to 0:28:02.080 --> 0:28:03.800 have to look at quite honestly, they should and should 0:28:03.800 --> 0:28:05.120 have done this for a long time when they're fat 0:28:05.119 --> 0:28:06.879 and happy. You didn't have to now all of a 0:28:06.880 --> 0:28:08.680 sudden when you're looking for people to show up like 0:28:08.800 --> 0:28:10.520 it was when I was a kid. Right, because it's 0:28:10.760 --> 0:28:13.440 about population trends, you're not going to have to be 0:28:13.520 --> 0:28:15.520 as selective to go to school. So maybe the days 0:28:15.520 --> 0:28:18.080 of a pulse and the number two pencil are back 0:28:18.119 --> 0:28:20.000 in vogue. But it wouldn't be a number two pencil 0:28:20.040 --> 0:28:22.800 because that's old. I guess it would be a I 0:28:22.840 --> 0:28:27.160 don't know, a cell phone and a tablet and a pulse. 0:28:28.640 --> 0:28:30.600 So we're starting to see the effects now of the shutdown. 0:28:30.640 --> 0:28:32.200 I've been talking about this the past few days, and 0:28:32.240 --> 0:28:35.080 the SNAP benefits expiring on Saturday, and you know, the 0:28:35.840 --> 0:28:38.960 political will power standing your ground and Republicans are saying, nope, 0:28:38.960 --> 0:28:40.800 we're not moving on this. Democrats say, nope, we're not 0:28:40.880 --> 0:28:42.800 moving on this. In the meantime, the rest of us, 0:28:42.920 --> 0:28:46.680 the taxpayers, get screwed because our side has to win 0:28:46.760 --> 0:28:49.280 at all costs. Rather than governing and representing us and 0:28:49.840 --> 0:28:52.080 doing the hard work of governing, it's easier to simply 0:28:53.240 --> 0:28:54.480 draw a line in the sand and say we're not 0:28:54.520 --> 0:28:57.480 going to cross this. So for principle, but we're starting 0:28:57.480 --> 0:29:00.480 to see the effects going from the theater at the 0:29:00.520 --> 0:29:02.200 beginning for the first few weeks of this thing, to 0:29:02.400 --> 0:29:05.040 actual damage or people getting hurt anyway, and it would 0:29:05.040 --> 0:29:07.160 be the SNAP people for sure. And now we're starting 0:29:07.160 --> 0:29:10.400 to see those members of the federal workforce and contractors 0:29:10.440 --> 0:29:13.440 that get paid. And now air travel is getting to 0:29:13.480 --> 0:29:16.640 be a problem here, seven thousand flights today, the delayed 0:29:16.720 --> 0:29:19.200 nationwide on Monday. Air traffic controls. I mean, look at 0:29:19.200 --> 0:29:22.240 it this way. If you say what you want about 0:29:22.240 --> 0:29:24.040 federal workers. And when we do, we do need some 0:29:24.160 --> 0:29:26.680 federal workers. We have, for example, right in a listening 0:29:26.720 --> 0:29:29.120 area right in our backyard here our good friends in Dayton, 0:29:29.120 --> 0:29:31.040 which I considered just like you know, we're a big 0:29:31.160 --> 0:29:33.200 radio station. We get a lot of listeners in Dayton 0:29:33.240 --> 0:29:37.760 as well. You got right pat Air Force Base and 0:29:38.040 --> 0:29:40.280 all the businesses around there. All those people suffer because 0:29:40.280 --> 0:29:42.760 people aren't spending money, and that hurts the bottom line, 0:29:42.800 --> 0:29:46.520 That hurts the economy, It hurts working folks. The FAA 0:29:46.800 --> 0:29:50.040 is saying staffing shortages and ground delay programs at Newark, 0:29:50.400 --> 0:29:52.440 close Cousin to close Austin, and I see some of 0:29:52.440 --> 0:29:54.680 the big used to be like the little ones. We're like, oh, okay, 0:29:54.880 --> 0:29:57.120 so you know, maybe Louisville has a little bit of 0:29:57.160 --> 0:29:59.720 a problem for a bit. I know, Nashal, bigger city 0:29:59.760 --> 0:30:02.440 for but you know, it's not affecting the major airports. 0:30:02.440 --> 0:30:04.200 And now we're starting to see, okay, Newark, which is 0:30:04.240 --> 0:30:08.360 always jacked up. Newark's the worst headache in America. But Dallas, 0:30:09.000 --> 0:30:12.080 now we're starting to see this. And yeah, when you 0:30:12.200 --> 0:30:15.479 start not paying people because of the shutdown, people are saying, well, 0:30:15.800 --> 0:30:17.280 I'm not going to show up to work. Now, you know, 0:30:17.480 --> 0:30:19.360 if you're an official, you have to show up. 0:30:19.480 --> 0:30:20.280 You just have to do that. 0:30:20.320 --> 0:30:22.560 I don't understand that, Like, wait, wait a minute, a lot. 0:30:22.680 --> 0:30:24.880 I did the job where you don't pay me, and 0:30:25.200 --> 0:30:26.560 you don't pay me for a couple of weeks and 0:30:26.640 --> 0:30:28.560 then you still expect me to show up. What am 0:30:28.600 --> 0:30:32.560 I stupid? What was I born yesterday? I mean I 0:30:32.680 --> 0:30:34.320 might do that for a minute or two, but probably 0:30:34.320 --> 0:30:35.880 in large I think most people like, yeah, how many 0:30:35.920 --> 0:30:37.880 sick days I got? How many vacation days? Because this 0:30:37.960 --> 0:30:39.720 is stupid. I don't even know if I'm ever going 0:30:39.800 --> 0:30:43.800 to get paid. And this is important because we're heading 0:30:43.840 --> 0:30:47.040 into the fall travel season here, not quite the Thanksgiving yet. 0:30:47.080 --> 0:30:48.600 We got a few weeks that you just wonder how 0:30:48.640 --> 0:30:50.880 much longer it's going to go. It doesn't seem like 0:30:50.920 --> 0:30:53.160 they have the political impasis to get this thing done 0:30:53.240 --> 0:30:55.920 anytime soon. But you know, once you get into and 0:30:56.000 --> 0:30:58.520 the reason why these things last about thirty days, because 0:30:58.560 --> 0:31:00.600 then people start to really notice. It's not just the 0:31:00.680 --> 0:31:03.240 inconvenience of a park being shut down, or trash not 0:31:03.360 --> 0:31:05.320 getting pat or a lawn not getting cut. Now you 0:31:05.400 --> 0:31:07.280 start to see it, you know, the impact be a 0:31:07.280 --> 0:31:09.880 little bit deeper here, and when it comes to the 0:31:09.920 --> 0:31:12.280 snap benef it's a very simply a freestar food bank. 0:31:12.840 --> 0:31:15.160 I occurred Rber on the show on Monday and he 0:31:15.240 --> 0:31:16.840 had his appeal out there, We're gonna have to hand 0:31:16.920 --> 0:31:19.160 out more meals and we just we're gonna try. We're 0:31:19.160 --> 0:31:20.920 gonna squeeze our vengers a little bit more and try 0:31:20.960 --> 0:31:22.800 to get more money and more meals out there and 0:31:22.840 --> 0:31:25.240 more donations. Hopefully you consider it the nation of the 0:31:25.280 --> 0:31:28.040 free Star Food Bank, because they do great work in 0:31:28.200 --> 0:31:30.640 like twenty counties in our area. But that's not going 0:31:30.720 --> 0:31:32.080 to be enough to fill the void here. It is 0:31:32.120 --> 0:31:36.720 simply is not going to And you know it has 0:31:36.800 --> 0:31:38.720 to do with up politics and Dranaline I get it. 0:31:38.800 --> 0:31:40.960 You know the ACA is jacked up. Should we be 0:31:41.200 --> 0:31:43.440 using subsidy to pay for healthcare benefits? No, it just 0:31:43.480 --> 0:31:45.560 makes it more expensive. But then have an alternative, have 0:31:45.560 --> 0:31:48.360 a plan. And there's the problem. We shut down government 0:31:48.560 --> 0:31:51.120 and we don't have a plan for fixing why we're 0:31:51.120 --> 0:31:54.520 shutting government down in the first place. So it seems 0:31:54.520 --> 0:31:56.240 to me like you'd want to get back in there 0:31:56.280 --> 0:31:58.680 and actually work the problems instead of pointing the finger 0:31:58.680 --> 0:32:00.560 at the other guy saying it's his fault or her fault, 0:32:01.120 --> 0:32:03.280 and actually work for the American people, which is the 0:32:03.320 --> 0:32:04.920 problem I have with politics, and a lot of people do. 0:32:05.000 --> 0:32:08.240 It's exhausting and it's painful for a lot of folks, 0:32:08.320 --> 0:32:09.920 for sure. There's just no way around it. You can 0:32:09.960 --> 0:32:12.560 talk about who's getting snapped benefits and the legal aliens, 0:32:12.600 --> 0:32:14.680 and that's all well and good, but the bulk of 0:32:14.720 --> 0:32:18.360 people that are getting those benefits are senior citizens. A 0:32:18.440 --> 0:32:20.520 number of them are veterans, but a lot of them 0:32:20.560 --> 0:32:22.800 are working families where you're working two or more jobs 0:32:23.520 --> 0:32:26.400 and you need that assistance to get by. That's the 0:32:26.520 --> 0:32:28.720 reality of it. So I don't know how this fixes it. 0:32:28.880 --> 0:32:31.080 But you can say they shouldn't be getting it, or 0:32:31.160 --> 0:32:33.240 this person should be getting it. That's all well and good. 0:32:33.320 --> 0:32:35.000 That's the system that's set up, and if you don't 0:32:35.120 --> 0:32:37.200 like it, then change the damn system. Do you do 0:32:37.320 --> 0:32:39.440 that by not getting together in meeting? And the answer 0:32:39.600 --> 0:32:43.200 is new It is not five new arrests now made 0:32:43.240 --> 0:32:47.320 in connection with a louver heist. We've got enough going on. 0:32:47.360 --> 0:32:49.240 Had to pay attention without worrying about Paris. But I 0:32:49.320 --> 0:32:51.600 think it's just just a fascinating things. They continue to 0:32:51.640 --> 0:32:54.000 make more and more investigations and by the way, still 0:32:54.080 --> 0:32:56.880 no sign of what they stole. I don't know. I'm 0:32:56.920 --> 0:32:59.239 Italian enough to go. They melt that stuff down, they 0:32:59.320 --> 0:33:01.720 whacked up those rocks, and they're they're all around the 0:33:01.760 --> 0:33:03.840 world right now. I want to think that's the case, 0:33:04.120 --> 0:33:06.360 Like that's why they stole the jewels in the first place. 0:33:06.560 --> 0:33:09.320 Instead of artwork. You don't steal the Bona Lisa, you 0:33:09.440 --> 0:33:11.440 steal the crown jewels and it's ye know, once you 0:33:11.520 --> 0:33:15.000 start breaking those up, Yeah, you know they're worth what 0:33:15.080 --> 0:33:17.240 one hundred and two million dollars with the eight jeels 0:33:17.240 --> 0:33:19.160 as they stole, they ate I guess settings whatever you 0:33:19.240 --> 0:33:22.600 call them things different pieces that they stole, I guess yeah, 0:33:22.680 --> 0:33:24.200 they're gonna be but they're still gonna be worth millions 0:33:24.200 --> 0:33:28.200 of dollars because you're talking about rare gemstones. And now 0:33:28.240 --> 0:33:32.120 they have five people so and now the place are saying, uh, 0:33:32.360 --> 0:33:35.560 it may not be an inside job after all, which 0:33:35.600 --> 0:33:37.160 I think is interesting. It seemed like it would be 0:33:37.160 --> 0:33:39.320 an inside job. The cameras are turned the wrong way 0:33:39.320 --> 0:33:40.719 and a whole bunch of stuff. You know, you got 0:33:40.800 --> 0:33:42.960 ladders up against the wall. If somebody didn't know something 0:33:43.000 --> 0:33:45.360 on the inside there, we'll find out. But five more 0:33:45.480 --> 0:33:48.040 rests of this ring. It's certainly as fascinating, that's for sure. 0:33:48.280 --> 0:33:48.560 All right. 0:33:48.640 --> 0:33:50.480 We got weather it's going to rain at least for 0:33:50.480 --> 0:33:51.880 the next few hours here, and then we drive for 0:33:51.920 --> 0:33:55.360 the kiddos on Halloween tomorrow. And got the time change 0:33:55.360 --> 0:33:57.040 happening this weekend and so much more so, it's an 0:33:57.040 --> 0:33:59.400 election coming up on Tuesday. Liz Keating is looking for 0:33:59.480 --> 0:34:02.520 your vote. And she examined she having been on council. 0:34:02.920 --> 0:34:04.960 I guess she's a great person, asked this question. It's 0:34:04.960 --> 0:34:06.720 not about, you know, having her on to promote her 0:34:06.760 --> 0:34:09.240 agenda what she wants to do, which I think is refreshing. 0:34:09.320 --> 0:34:12.239 But this is more about why isn't council pushing back 0:34:13.160 --> 0:34:17.239 on the mayor and the city manager? Why maybe some 0:34:17.360 --> 0:34:19.200 answer for us? Next Scottsland show on the Home of 0:34:19.200 --> 0:34:21.560 the Best Bengals coverage seven hundred WWT since. 0:34:21.400 --> 0:34:23.480 Then you want to be an American? 0:34:25.080 --> 0:34:28.080 On Thursday morning here seven hundred w Good news is 0:34:28.160 --> 0:34:30.880 we dry up this afternoon. We dry up this afternoon 0:34:31.120 --> 0:34:33.200 and looks good for trick or treaters tomorrow, right, so 0:34:33.280 --> 0:34:34.680 we care about weekend looks good. 0:34:35.480 --> 0:34:35.600 Uh. 0:34:35.840 --> 0:34:40.000 So yesterday the steady drip and it is literally a 0:34:40.160 --> 0:34:42.440 soap opera. Down at City Hall. A couple dozen families 0:34:42.480 --> 0:34:45.600 and friends of Chief Terry Thiji showed up to council 0:34:45.640 --> 0:34:48.360 wearing I stand with Police Chief Thigi t shirts and 0:34:48.760 --> 0:34:51.240 uh they pretty much read after a pure vaal sherlong 0:34:51.320 --> 0:34:54.360 and council the riot Act. So you had family members 0:34:54.400 --> 0:34:57.760 there and obviously they love and care about Terry Thiji 0:34:58.000 --> 0:35:00.040 and demand that she get a fair hearing and and 0:35:00.280 --> 0:35:02.560 the city. And the hard part about this is like 0:35:03.040 --> 0:35:05.840 very few people, I say, Seth Walsh, I had councilperson 0:35:06.040 --> 0:35:09.640 and Albion yesterday and she was demure about but you 0:35:09.719 --> 0:35:12.279 know she's still commented on it. But by and large 0:35:12.320 --> 0:35:15.400 it's been really really quiet down there. Family members slammed 0:35:15.400 --> 0:35:18.399 the investigation now, calling into her leadership in the question 0:35:18.560 --> 0:35:20.600 and after the fact that it's political and secretive, and 0:35:20.600 --> 0:35:23.600 they're right about that. But the soap opera continues down 0:35:23.600 --> 0:35:25.840 at City Hall, and one wonders what happens on Tuesday 0:35:25.920 --> 0:35:28.399 on election day. Liz Keating is a former council member. 0:35:28.800 --> 0:35:31.000 She's running yet again, and she has been hitting the 0:35:31.000 --> 0:35:33.800 streets pretty hard. I keep seeing all her campaign I 0:35:33.880 --> 0:35:36.839 think Liz keating by the way, Liz welcome. I see 0:35:36.880 --> 0:35:39.640 a lot of your ads, and you're spending a lot 0:35:39.760 --> 0:35:41.359 when it comes to getting the message out. 0:35:42.640 --> 0:35:44.960 We are working our tails off. We want to get 0:35:45.040 --> 0:35:47.920 back there and get things back in order in Cincinnati, 0:35:48.080 --> 0:35:51.520 so we are doing everything we can to get back. 0:35:51.600 --> 0:35:53.719 I love this city too much to see it the 0:35:53.800 --> 0:35:54.719 way it is right now. 0:35:54.880 --> 0:35:56.879 You're out campaigning here on the street. What are people saying. 0:35:58.080 --> 0:36:01.400 Everybody is talking about crime, literally every neighborhood does. No 0:36:01.560 --> 0:36:04.120 matter what neighborhood we are in, people are concerned about 0:36:04.120 --> 0:36:07.520 the crime. They are concerned about basic services and getting 0:36:07.600 --> 0:36:10.200 no response from city hall. And honestly, that's why we're 0:36:10.239 --> 0:36:13.399 running crime and the causes of crime, and get back 0:36:13.480 --> 0:36:16.080 to being able to actually plow snow when it snows, 0:36:16.200 --> 0:36:19.040 and pay the roads and fill the potholes, and get 0:36:19.160 --> 0:36:21.360 rid of the litter and take care of city property 0:36:21.440 --> 0:36:24.239 so it's not overgrown and full of graffiti, which are 0:36:24.280 --> 0:36:26.920 all things that again attract crimes. You know, just do 0:36:27.080 --> 0:36:29.560 the basics, the fundamentals of local government. 0:36:30.400 --> 0:36:32.080 I noticed that not too long ago a few weeks 0:36:32.080 --> 0:36:34.040 ago there was a summit where they had a contest 0:36:34.080 --> 0:36:36.040 to come up with unique ways to let people know 0:36:36.200 --> 0:36:38.680 that the potholes have been filled on. It's just another one. 0:36:38.719 --> 0:36:41.160 It's like, the pothole problem has been going on for 0:36:41.239 --> 0:36:43.920 a long time, and it's literally decades of neglect, right 0:36:43.960 --> 0:36:46.440 and we're taking money from the sale of the railroad 0:36:46.480 --> 0:36:48.200 and that's going to go in the streets and paying 0:36:48.280 --> 0:36:51.680 over potholes. But right up in like ninety days before 0:36:51.719 --> 0:36:54.880 the election, all of a sudden, they went gangbusters on 0:36:54.960 --> 0:36:56.640 fixing potholes. Do you think that's a coincidence. 0:36:58.000 --> 0:36:59.879 I don't think it's a coincidence. But if you look 0:36:59.880 --> 0:37:02.920 at a long term, even the money from the railroad, 0:37:02.960 --> 0:37:05.200 the city has not been able to deploy that money 0:37:05.680 --> 0:37:07.719 very quickly to pave the roads. If you have all 0:37:07.760 --> 0:37:09.759 this money coming in, you need to be prepared. You 0:37:09.840 --> 0:37:11.520 need to be able to get the RFPs out, you 0:37:11.600 --> 0:37:13.680 need to be able to get the contract signed, and 0:37:13.760 --> 0:37:15.680 you need to get the workers on the roads. I mean, 0:37:15.719 --> 0:37:18.880 these are tons of jobs which again one get paychecks 0:37:18.920 --> 0:37:21.319 going home to families to support more families, So that's 0:37:21.400 --> 0:37:23.759 tax revenue right back to the city. And these are 0:37:23.840 --> 0:37:26.520 fundamentals that they cannot get right right now, and there's 0:37:26.680 --> 0:37:30.400 no conversation from Council like where are these special meetings 0:37:30.440 --> 0:37:32.720 being held? Where are the questions? Where are you holding 0:37:32.800 --> 0:37:36.600 the administration accountable? Say, why aren't these dollars getting deployed 0:37:36.640 --> 0:37:39.080 and we've got to hold up and getting these contracts together? 0:37:39.200 --> 0:37:42.520 Then what changes do we need to make legislatively? You're 0:37:42.560 --> 0:37:46.560 just not seeing Council act on these fundamentals. They're just 0:37:46.680 --> 0:37:49.000 not doing their job, and I'm beyond frustrated by it. 0:37:49.560 --> 0:37:52.160 It is telling that so few people are speaking out 0:37:52.880 --> 0:37:55.719 and questioning the administration how they handle the cig thing. 0:37:55.760 --> 0:37:57.560 And it's not just that it's you know, there's no 0:37:57.680 --> 0:37:59.759 crime plan. Don't have a crime plan for sure. I 0:37:59.840 --> 0:38:03.600 think it's too little. It's not aggressive enough that you're 0:38:03.600 --> 0:38:05.799 looking at outliers and not the root cause of this thing. 0:38:05.840 --> 0:38:07.719 I mean, when you go after food trucks instead of 0:38:07.719 --> 0:38:12.000 the criminals, it can continue to ruin our city. That's telling. 0:38:12.080 --> 0:38:14.400 You're punishing good business owners and people that just simply 0:38:14.440 --> 0:38:16.960 want to taco at two o'clock in the morning. Yeah, 0:38:17.000 --> 0:38:18.600 you're gonna get a bad element that might show up 0:38:18.640 --> 0:38:20.600 and do that, But it's your job to separate the 0:38:20.640 --> 0:38:22.520 bad element from the good element. You know, if I 0:38:22.560 --> 0:38:24.000 go to a club, or I go to a bar, 0:38:24.120 --> 0:38:25.400 or I got a concert, whatever it is, and I 0:38:25.440 --> 0:38:27.400 get out and go damn, I'm hungry. Hey there's a 0:38:27.440 --> 0:38:30.719 food truck, it's midnight or whatever. I'm gonna get a 0:38:30.800 --> 0:38:33.280 cony dog, I'm gonna get a slice of pizza, a burger, 0:38:33.360 --> 0:38:35.600 whatever the hell it is, and go home, go to bed, 0:38:36.520 --> 0:38:39.359 fat and happy and entertain Now they're going to take 0:38:39.400 --> 0:38:41.640 that away from the good people all because it's a 0:38:41.760 --> 0:38:44.520 very small percentage of people causing all this nonsense. That's 0:38:44.560 --> 0:38:46.279 what I'm talking about. It it's the lack of a 0:38:46.600 --> 0:38:49.040 it's not leaning into the resources of the state because 0:38:49.080 --> 0:38:51.920 the optics that makes it look bad. If crime is 0:38:51.920 --> 0:38:53.960 a problem, you stamp it out. You send a message 0:38:53.960 --> 0:38:55.840 we're not going to tolerate this. But the more that 0:38:55.920 --> 0:38:59.200 the him and Hauw live keeping, the worst crime gets 0:38:59.239 --> 0:39:02.560 because all you're doing is enabling that percentage of criminals 0:39:02.760 --> 0:39:04.960 who are looking to take opportunities to the to the 0:39:05.120 --> 0:39:07.040 to the extreme, and we're seeing that constantly. 0:39:07.120 --> 0:39:13.319 Now you cannot go after small businesses because you've got 0:39:13.360 --> 0:39:17.800 a crime problem. You've got to tackle the root causes 0:39:17.840 --> 0:39:20.200 of it. You've got to be tough on the actual crime. 0:39:20.239 --> 0:39:23.000 You've got to support the police officers and the chief 0:39:23.320 --> 0:39:26.280 and give them room to actually activate. They are the experts, 0:39:26.360 --> 0:39:28.319 this is their profession. You've got to give them room. 0:39:28.360 --> 0:39:31.359 You can't politicize the police department. You can't shut down 0:39:31.440 --> 0:39:34.120 small businesses because you've got a problem. You got to 0:39:34.160 --> 0:39:37.359 figure out what the real problems are and take care 0:39:37.400 --> 0:39:40.359 of that. Go after the criminals. And again, if we're 0:39:40.440 --> 0:39:43.200 sending a signal thing we are not open for business 0:39:43.280 --> 0:39:46.120 for your small businesses, for these mom and pops, it's 0:39:46.160 --> 0:39:48.560 saying that we don't want paychecks going home to families, 0:39:48.680 --> 0:39:51.080 We don't want to support small families. It is just 0:39:51.200 --> 0:39:54.600 absolutely absurd. And you're not seeing counsel go after this 0:39:54.760 --> 0:39:57.160 in the right way. It took them meek to start 0:39:57.200 --> 0:40:00.480 asking questions when they started getting political pressure to do so. 0:40:01.040 --> 0:40:03.560 You need to enact right away. It is not that 0:40:03.680 --> 0:40:06.279 hard to ask these questions and committee and you don't 0:40:06.400 --> 0:40:09.680 have to burn the place down. You can hold administration 0:40:09.800 --> 0:40:13.520 accountable and have a productive debate and get things moving 0:40:13.560 --> 0:40:15.640 in the right direction. And you're not seeing that you're 0:40:15.680 --> 0:40:18.480 constantly seeing no comment, no comment, no comment, no comment. 0:40:19.080 --> 0:40:21.520 Why is that? Why are work quest councils so afraid 0:40:21.600 --> 0:40:23.600 to point the dirty end of the stick and afttab 0:40:23.680 --> 0:40:24.240 and sure along. 0:40:25.640 --> 0:40:27.879 I think it's because we've got an election right now, 0:40:28.080 --> 0:40:31.920 and that's part of the problem. I want elected officials 0:40:31.960 --> 0:40:34.919 who are willing to face the facts and then start 0:40:35.000 --> 0:40:38.000 tackling the problems. And right now, no one wants to 0:40:38.040 --> 0:40:40.400 talk about the fact. No one wants to talk about 0:40:40.440 --> 0:40:42.920 the problems because they're up for election. When you're in 0:40:42.920 --> 0:40:45.400 an incumbent and things aren't going well, it's a problem. 0:40:45.840 --> 0:40:48.799 But we need elected officials at city Hall who are 0:40:48.880 --> 0:40:51.360 willing to face those facts and get right down to 0:40:51.440 --> 0:40:54.279 business to fix them. You have to be relentless in 0:40:54.640 --> 0:40:57.439 solving problems all the time. You have to be willing 0:40:57.560 --> 0:40:59.320 to accept the fact that things aren't going to go 0:40:59.440 --> 0:41:02.000 right because it's never going to be perfect. We do 0:41:02.120 --> 0:41:04.279 not live in a world where we are where things 0:41:04.320 --> 0:41:07.320 are perfect. You have to have leaders who are willing 0:41:07.360 --> 0:41:09.520 to fight and continue to solve those problems. 0:41:09.560 --> 0:41:10.279 What are they afraid of? 0:41:12.480 --> 0:41:15.040 It's politics. It's politics. They don't want to look bad, 0:41:15.080 --> 0:41:17.480 they don't want to be challenging anybody they're afraid to 0:41:17.719 --> 0:41:19.440 pick their nose out on stuff, and. 0:41:19.480 --> 0:41:20.880 That get you elected. 0:41:21.120 --> 0:41:23.160 You if I mean, I've kind of been that guy 0:41:23.160 --> 0:41:25.399 in my whole life. If you stand up for what's 0:41:25.480 --> 0:41:27.160 right and you have values, to go, Listen, we're not 0:41:27.200 --> 0:41:30.400 going to tolerate this, this secrecy, this incompetence. We're not 0:41:30.440 --> 0:41:34.200 going to tolerate the indecision. We want answers. I thought, yes, 0:41:34.320 --> 0:41:36.640 counsel this week, they did a great job poking the 0:41:36.680 --> 0:41:38.920 bear when it came to the food truck thing, saying well, 0:41:38.960 --> 0:41:42.880 this is stupid. There's no evidence that this is encouraging crime, 0:41:43.560 --> 0:41:45.480 and they really push back on it. Why can't you 0:41:45.560 --> 0:41:48.719 do that when with Chief Thiji or crime or whatever 0:41:48.760 --> 0:41:50.799 it is. I just I don't know. It's politics. Yeah, 0:41:50.880 --> 0:41:53.440 but how does that cost you anything? By doing what 0:41:53.640 --> 0:41:55.240 people sent you to city. 0:41:55.080 --> 0:41:55.480 Hall to do? 0:41:57.239 --> 0:41:59.719 It doesn't cost you anything, no what you're supposed to do. 0:42:00.080 --> 0:42:01.960 But I mean, it took weeks to hear from them 0:42:02.000 --> 0:42:05.239 on food trucks. This food trucks were shut down. Administration 0:42:05.440 --> 0:42:07.880 made that what was it like a month ago, And 0:42:08.000 --> 0:42:10.120 it took this long and this many news stories and 0:42:10.200 --> 0:42:12.960 this much political pressure to actually get something out of it. 0:42:13.400 --> 0:42:16.279 I mean, it's insane. This is not how we need 0:42:16.400 --> 0:42:18.839 to be operating as a city. We need much better 0:42:18.960 --> 0:42:21.279 leadership down there, and we need people who are not 0:42:21.560 --> 0:42:24.880 afraid to ask the tough questions and hold an administration accountable. 0:42:25.160 --> 0:42:26.960 And that's what they did before, and that's what I 0:42:27.040 --> 0:42:28.200 want to go back and do again. 0:42:29.400 --> 0:42:34.680 Liz keating on that the accountability thing strikes me that I, 0:42:34.840 --> 0:42:36.640 as a citizen, someone to pays attention to this stuff, 0:42:36.640 --> 0:42:39.759 and I can't imagine how citizen feels. You've almost got 0:42:41.880 --> 0:42:44.160 You've got these enemies, You've got AFTAB, peer Vault, you've 0:42:44.160 --> 0:42:45.960 got share Along, the city manager, and you got counsul. 0:42:46.360 --> 0:42:48.560 No one knows who reports to, who who is responsible. 0:42:48.600 --> 0:42:50.680 There's all sorts of cover, there's excuse making, there's no 0:42:50.680 --> 0:42:53.520 accountability because AFTAB goes. Well the chief got fired. Now 0:42:53.600 --> 0:42:55.920 that was share Along and sure Along. Well, you know, 0:42:56.440 --> 0:42:58.280 I don't have a comment because it's a personnel issue. 0:42:58.400 --> 0:43:00.120 Well what about console don't they have it? Well, we 0:43:00.160 --> 0:43:02.279 don't because it's the mayor. Well, the mayor says, it's 0:43:02.320 --> 0:43:05.200 a city manager. The city manager says, it's council. Council 0:43:05.239 --> 0:43:07.600 says it's a city manager who then points the finger 0:43:07.760 --> 0:43:10.640 at city council and the mayor's who's run. 0:43:10.600 --> 0:43:10.960 Of the show. 0:43:12.440 --> 0:43:16.280 You know what, Council votes on city dollars, They vote 0:43:16.280 --> 0:43:19.000 on the spending, they appropriate the money. It takes two 0:43:19.080 --> 0:43:21.920 members of council to call a special session. They easily 0:43:21.920 --> 0:43:23.880 could have called a special session and say, hey, we 0:43:24.000 --> 0:43:25.960 are not going to pay for the switch hunt. We 0:43:26.080 --> 0:43:28.720 are not going to make taxpayers face spend fifty thousand 0:43:28.760 --> 0:43:31.359 dollars to hire an outside firm to investigate to try 0:43:31.400 --> 0:43:34.320 to find a reason to fire somebody after you've already 0:43:34.360 --> 0:43:36.680 asked them to resign, after you've tried to start this. 0:43:37.640 --> 0:43:39.840 Council can step in and do this because they have 0:43:39.960 --> 0:43:41.920 the power to do so, and they have done nothing. 0:43:42.320 --> 0:43:44.759 They have done absolutely nothing, and so many of them 0:43:44.800 --> 0:43:48.080 for the first week or two we're constantly saying no comment, 0:43:48.160 --> 0:43:50.600 no comment, no comment, and again like just exactly what 0:43:50.640 --> 0:43:54.399 you're saying, pointing fingers. This is council's responsibility. Council's job. 0:43:54.800 --> 0:43:57.040 They are in charge of spending, they vote on the spending. 0:43:57.120 --> 0:43:59.880 They can shut this down immediately, and they haven't. 0:44:00.239 --> 0:44:02.400 Former council member Liz Keating, who's runningyet again, one of 0:44:02.440 --> 0:44:04.880 the twenty six that seek your vote on Tuesday or 0:44:04.960 --> 0:44:07.799 perhaps earlier here too. And we definitely need some new 0:44:07.840 --> 0:44:09.920 blood in city council. There's no question somebody's going to 0:44:09.960 --> 0:44:13.360 hold folks accountable rather than just you know. I illustrated 0:44:13.360 --> 0:44:16.440 this before last weekend. Last two weekends ago, we had 0:44:16.440 --> 0:44:19.200 the No King's rally. It's all about Donald Trump, a 0:44:19.280 --> 0:44:22.120 bunch of people with different grievances. And granted, Trump brings 0:44:22.160 --> 0:44:25.160 out grievances and people, for sure, even Republicans totally understand 0:44:25.200 --> 0:44:27.840 that that's part of his nature. Maybe also part of 0:44:27.880 --> 0:44:31.040 his attraction. I'm not quite sure. But all these aggrieved 0:44:31.080 --> 0:44:33.160 people showing up with different causes and the one thing 0:44:33.200 --> 0:44:35.239 in common is Donald Trump. But no kings. He's a king. 0:44:35.280 --> 0:44:37.600 He's a king. I don't know, when you talk about cronyism, 0:44:37.600 --> 0:44:39.680 when you talk about no accountability, when you talk about 0:44:39.719 --> 0:44:42.880 ignoring problems and focusing other things, how many of those 0:44:42.920 --> 0:44:44.400 people are going to turn around and vote for the 0:44:44.480 --> 0:44:47.040 exact same thing they protested against two weeks ago in 0:44:47.120 --> 0:44:49.520 after pierreval I hope not. 0:44:49.920 --> 0:44:53.880 I hope people do not continue to vote all one ticket, 0:44:54.040 --> 0:44:56.960 all one party. You've got will they will candidate. You 0:44:57.080 --> 0:44:59.600 have to, you have to look at it. If people 0:44:59.640 --> 0:45:02.239 want to same thing that they've gotten, then go for it. 0:45:02.600 --> 0:45:05.800 But I think Cincinnati deserves so much better. They deserve 0:45:05.920 --> 0:45:07.960 so much better. And that's why I'm running because I 0:45:08.080 --> 0:45:10.719 am sick and tired of seeing what's going on down there, 0:45:10.840 --> 0:45:12.920 and I think Cincinnati deserves better. And I'm going to 0:45:12.960 --> 0:45:16.680 go back and fight and actually do the job that 0:45:16.840 --> 0:45:19.560 I was elected to do before. And I plan on 0:45:19.680 --> 0:45:21.919 being elected again and go back and do that again. 0:45:22.200 --> 0:45:24.279 Yeah, and I think you know, back to know there's 0:45:24.400 --> 0:45:26.880 there's no plan, and it is a plan, but it's feckless. 0:45:26.960 --> 0:45:29.359 The plan it doesn't have enough tooth. The plan doesn't 0:45:29.360 --> 0:45:30.879 have enough bite. You don't want to execute. You don't 0:45:30.880 --> 0:45:33.000 want to you're afraid you're gonna upset people like maybe 0:45:33.040 --> 0:45:36.719 Iris Rawley that I don't understand. But I think even 0:45:36.760 --> 0:45:38.600 bigger than that, and the real issue I have, and 0:45:38.760 --> 0:45:41.239 if I were to maybe articulate a little bit better 0:45:41.320 --> 0:45:43.839 when it comes to you know, sure along and after 0:45:43.920 --> 0:45:46.000 that Periodal and Council and everyone's pointing the finger at 0:45:46.000 --> 0:45:49.080 everybody else is the lack of communication from the administration. 0:45:49.160 --> 0:45:51.640 I mean, let's go back. We were talking about potholes, 0:45:52.239 --> 0:45:53.280 but what about snowfall? 0:45:53.440 --> 0:45:53.560 Right? 0:45:53.640 --> 0:45:56.960 How many streets weren't plowed? And that took weeks later 0:45:57.080 --> 0:45:58.960 or finally they'd admitted we're not going to plow every 0:45:58.960 --> 0:46:01.520 street in Cincinnati. Hold up just a second. I pay 0:46:01.600 --> 0:46:05.800 property taxes. I'm paying my taxes. Those taxes fund snow removal. 0:46:05.840 --> 0:46:08.040 Now you're telling me I don't get an essential city 0:46:08.120 --> 0:46:10.640 service because you decided to do something else with the money. 0:46:10.880 --> 0:46:15.120 Makes no sense whatsoever. That's Malfeason's big mac Bridge fire. 0:46:15.239 --> 0:46:17.920 That thing happened. We had traffic gridlocked downtown for a 0:46:18.000 --> 0:46:20.960 couple of weeks before council and the mayor even acknowledged 0:46:20.960 --> 0:46:22.719 that we had that problem in the first place. I 0:46:22.800 --> 0:46:25.320 don't expect the city streets to be fine after you 0:46:25.400 --> 0:46:28.200 close one a major bridge, a major thoroughfare, But there 0:46:28.280 --> 0:46:31.000 was no communication on that. People were one Achille. I'm 0:46:31.080 --> 0:46:34.080 surprised we don't have a fatal road rage incident over that. 0:46:34.440 --> 0:46:36.560 Get some cops, get some people down, Get I don't 0:46:36.600 --> 0:46:39.200 get pull some ambassador of the Fountain Square had people 0:46:39.280 --> 0:46:41.880 direct traffic during rush How they didn't do that. The 0:46:41.960 --> 0:46:45.399 Patrick Herringer thing as another fumble Summer Slam where we've 0:46:45.440 --> 0:46:48.880 got a beatdown going viral across the world in downtown Cincinnati, 0:46:49.200 --> 0:46:51.799 and the mayor decides to go on vacation the day 0:46:51.840 --> 0:46:54.040 after this thing goes viral and then not be around 0:46:54.080 --> 0:46:55.919 and then just have the city manager and the chief 0:46:56.000 --> 0:46:58.920 talk about it. Then the chief thiji incident. It's a 0:46:59.040 --> 0:47:02.520 steady pattern of incompetence due to a lack of communication. 0:47:02.719 --> 0:47:05.359 That's the problem. Nobody knows what's going on down there, 0:47:05.640 --> 0:47:08.880 and when they respond to something, either they don't respond 0:47:08.960 --> 0:47:11.000 and simply ignore it because it doesn't make them look good, 0:47:11.200 --> 0:47:14.120 or they wait too damn long to have response to it. 0:47:14.280 --> 0:47:16.400 That's a fair criticism of AFTAB and sure. 0:47:16.200 --> 0:47:20.239 Along and city Council and city council. You are not 0:47:20.360 --> 0:47:23.239 hearing from council members. Their job is constituent affairs. They 0:47:23.280 --> 0:47:25.839 should be responding to the community when people are reaching out. 0:47:26.080 --> 0:47:28.439 You talked about this now storm. I had schools reach 0:47:28.520 --> 0:47:31.640 out because the streets haven't been plouned in schools can't 0:47:31.640 --> 0:47:33.680 open to get the kids back in school for days, 0:47:33.719 --> 0:47:36.000 and they heard nothing back from city Hall. We heard 0:47:36.040 --> 0:47:39.120 from residents. They came back and said there were over 0:47:39.200 --> 0:47:42.920 six hundred streets that hadn't even been touched. Six hundred streets, 0:47:42.960 --> 0:47:44.719 and the city has been said it hadn't even been touched, 0:47:44.760 --> 0:47:46.640 and no one knew, and no one at city Hall 0:47:46.760 --> 0:47:49.480 was calling these residents back when they're asking when they're 0:47:49.560 --> 0:47:52.160 finally going to get their streets cleared. There are so 0:47:52.320 --> 0:47:55.600 many incidents where residents are calling their council members, reaching 0:47:55.640 --> 0:47:57.719 out to their council members to get help, whether it's 0:47:57.800 --> 0:48:00.960 trash pick up, or there's litter everywhere, there's illegal jumping. 0:48:01.400 --> 0:48:03.759 They need their streets close that they can get back 0:48:03.800 --> 0:48:06.840 to work, and no one calls them back. And that's 0:48:06.960 --> 0:48:09.200 so for the last nearly two years, since I have 0:48:09.360 --> 0:48:12.320 been just a regular citizen, I am still fielding calls 0:48:12.360 --> 0:48:15.400 from resident because they are trying to get help because 0:48:15.440 --> 0:48:18.360 our elected officials and city council is they are not 0:48:18.520 --> 0:48:20.440 doing their job and solving the proms that they were 0:48:20.480 --> 0:48:23.400 elected to solve, and so it takes a resident. And 0:48:23.520 --> 0:48:25.480 that's why I'm getting back in this because you've got 0:48:25.520 --> 0:48:28.040 to go back. You have to be responsive to the community, 0:48:28.440 --> 0:48:29.880 you have to be able to take care of these 0:48:29.920 --> 0:48:32.160 basic services. And if we are not taking care of 0:48:32.239 --> 0:48:34.560 the basics, we are going to fail at the big things, 0:48:34.600 --> 0:48:37.160 which we have seen when it comes to crime and 0:48:37.280 --> 0:48:40.920 tackling crime and the way that we've handled these massive stories. 0:48:41.280 --> 0:48:43.360 Whereas a lot of people are freaked out and a 0:48:43.440 --> 0:48:45.960 lot of things are going on, things crumble. If you 0:48:46.000 --> 0:48:48.279 can't take care of the basics, if you can't fill 0:48:48.320 --> 0:48:51.040 that foundation, you're going to have a big problem later 0:48:51.080 --> 0:48:53.200 and we've seen that play out lost. You have to 0:48:53.239 --> 0:48:55.840 have council members or responses lis Keating. 0:48:55.880 --> 0:48:58.800 As you mentioned, you know, council essentially controls the purse strings. 0:48:58.880 --> 0:49:00.799 They legislate, they make work to make laws and all 0:49:00.840 --> 0:49:03.160 that stuff. Does there need to be some clarity and 0:49:03.200 --> 0:49:05.239 what the city manager does and what the mayor does 0:49:05.360 --> 0:49:07.600 because as a taxpayer, if I'm a taxpayer, I have 0:49:07.680 --> 0:49:09.799 no idea how that works. I think most people don't 0:49:09.840 --> 0:49:11.800 really follow the intricacies of it. But there's also a 0:49:11.880 --> 0:49:13.799 problem there if you have a strong mayor and you've 0:49:13.840 --> 0:49:15.960 got star council and you've got a city manager involved, 0:49:16.360 --> 0:49:20.480 it seems like everyone there's built in cover for incompetency 0:49:20.840 --> 0:49:22.840 and mistakes. Is that like, well, I can point the 0:49:22.880 --> 0:49:24.719 finger at the city manager or I can Hey, you 0:49:24.800 --> 0:49:26.040 know what I'm gonna pull the pin out of the 0:49:26.080 --> 0:49:28.400 grenade and fire the chief. Even though the chief is 0:49:28.440 --> 0:49:30.640 the one taking the orders from the mayor and the 0:49:30.680 --> 0:49:33.840 city manager city, she doesn't dictate what the policy, what 0:49:33.920 --> 0:49:35.680 the focus is. When she got hired, I bring this 0:49:35.840 --> 0:49:39.839 up because it's documented. She said, listen the big issue here, 0:49:40.040 --> 0:49:42.080 and I talked to people by the interview with Iris Rawley, 0:49:42.120 --> 0:49:44.799 for example, and keep the collaborative agreement going. Okay, that's good, 0:49:45.960 --> 0:49:48.360 but I think we've taken such kid gloves hands towards 0:49:48.440 --> 0:49:51.800 criminals and treat them like victims when we victimize the 0:49:51.880 --> 0:49:55.240 victims even more if that kind of makes sense. In fact, 0:49:55.280 --> 0:49:57.600 that Terry TJ now is just falling on the sword 0:49:57.680 --> 0:50:00.319 because of what we talked about. I think there's got 0:50:00.400 --> 0:50:03.040 to be I know it's a city charter issue. I 0:50:03.080 --> 0:50:05.440 know it's deeper than just this conversation, but damn it, 0:50:06.480 --> 0:50:08.840 you've got you've got too many people who are allegedly 0:50:08.920 --> 0:50:11.320 making decisions. Do we need a city manager for the 0:50:11.400 --> 0:50:14.319 mayor and what roles we made? Need to carve those 0:50:14.400 --> 0:50:16.480 roles out a little bit more simply to avoid things 0:50:16.560 --> 0:50:18.279 like this where we know what you're in charge of, 0:50:18.400 --> 0:50:20.520 what you're going to do. I'm sorry, the no common 0:50:20.600 --> 0:50:23.120 thing is wearing thin for a lot of people, myself included. 0:50:24.440 --> 0:50:26.400 I couldn't agree more. But this is where you have 0:50:26.600 --> 0:50:30.520 to have elected officials on SINCII city councils that know 0:50:30.800 --> 0:50:33.560 their role. Right now, we are seeing council members who 0:50:33.600 --> 0:50:36.319 are not asking in their role. They are they are 0:50:36.480 --> 0:50:38.920 just they're saying, no comment, It's okay, it's not our job. 0:50:39.000 --> 0:50:41.560 It's or is that problem? That problem? That problem city 0:50:41.600 --> 0:50:43.600 councils is. You've got to think of them as the board. 0:50:43.680 --> 0:50:46.160 They do control the first strings. They can shut down 0:50:46.239 --> 0:50:49.480 spending on things anytime, they can pass legislation. They can 0:50:49.520 --> 0:50:52.200 put in motions to guide administration in a different direction. 0:50:52.239 --> 0:50:55.120 If they're not happy with it, they can call special 0:50:55.200 --> 0:51:00.200 meetings and actually ask questions. Ask questions of administration at 0:51:00.280 --> 0:51:03.520 least lets the public better understand what's going on. Their 0:51:03.680 --> 0:51:07.360 job is to hold administration accountable. Their job is to 0:51:07.440 --> 0:51:10.560 make sure that the tax dollars are being spent in 0:51:10.760 --> 0:51:13.640 smart and efficient ways. They are in charge of making 0:51:13.680 --> 0:51:16.880 sure that government is running smoothly, and you're not seeing 0:51:16.920 --> 0:51:19.320 that at all. And that's why it's important to have 0:51:19.719 --> 0:51:22.200 experience down there and people who are willing to do 0:51:22.360 --> 0:51:24.640 the full job that they were elected to do. 0:51:25.040 --> 0:51:28.160 Yeah, totally understandable. And I know a number of member 0:51:28.160 --> 0:51:30.279 of councils. A number of people come on the show 0:51:30.360 --> 0:51:32.200 quite frequently on a regular basis, and I hate to 0:51:32.239 --> 0:51:35.000 see good people and I think they're good wind up 0:51:35.040 --> 0:51:38.000 losing their job over But there's got I would think Tuesday, 0:51:38.040 --> 0:51:40.200 there's going to be a political price to pay. It's 0:51:40.239 --> 0:51:41.560 not going to be may or Aft to have pure 0:51:41.560 --> 0:51:45.879 of all. He's gonna win reelection for sure, but there's 0:51:45.920 --> 0:51:47.279 council people are going to be out of a seat. 0:51:47.320 --> 0:51:48.960 I think because of this whole thing you feel that. 0:51:50.680 --> 0:51:54.520 I feel that this campaign has been a completely different 0:51:54.640 --> 0:51:58.280 vibe than I've ever seen and heard before. People are angry, 0:51:58.719 --> 0:52:00.440 and that's not the kind of city that I want 0:52:00.480 --> 0:52:01.800 to live in. I don't want to live in a 0:52:01.880 --> 0:52:05.080 city where people are frustrated, people aren't getting the services 0:52:05.120 --> 0:52:07.560 that we need. We can do so so much better, 0:52:07.640 --> 0:52:09.440 and that's why we're working our tails off to get 0:52:09.520 --> 0:52:11.440 back down there and get the city back in order. 0:52:11.640 --> 0:52:14.080 Well, if you don't demand accountability with your vote, you're 0:52:14.080 --> 0:52:15.520 going to get more of the same or worse. Because 0:52:15.560 --> 0:52:17.920 it's going to encourage more of the same misbehavior. That 0:52:18.000 --> 0:52:20.160 is what's going to happen. Look at the Terry Fiji thing. 0:52:20.560 --> 0:52:23.000 We're going to fire her and then hire for forty 0:52:23.080 --> 0:52:25.120 fifty thousand dollars a law firm to find out where 0:52:25.160 --> 0:52:26.200 we fired her in the first place. 0:52:27.520 --> 0:52:27.920 Exactly. 0:52:28.040 --> 0:52:30.439 I mean, do you want your tax bit, your tax 0:52:30.480 --> 0:52:31.440 dollars being spent that way? 0:52:31.560 --> 0:52:31.879 I don't. 0:52:32.440 --> 0:52:32.759 I don't. 0:52:32.880 --> 0:52:35.520 And where where is counsel asking this question? Where is 0:52:35.520 --> 0:52:36.600 council shutting this down? 0:52:36.760 --> 0:52:37.200 No, they're not. 0:52:37.320 --> 0:52:40.799 Where's council even talking about this in committee meetings? They're 0:52:40.800 --> 0:52:43.040 calling a special meeting. This is not take care of 0:52:43.080 --> 0:52:45.279 the taxpayer dollars. There are so many things that that 0:52:45.400 --> 0:52:48.200 money could go to that will be far more effective 0:52:48.320 --> 0:52:52.400 and positive impacts on our neighborhood then spending it on 0:52:52.719 --> 0:52:54.360 a witch hunt as an afterthought. 0:52:54.520 --> 0:52:57.160 Well, we'll find out what happens on Tuesday. I'm interested 0:52:57.239 --> 0:52:59.800 like anyone else. I got the popcorn to see what happens. 0:52:59.840 --> 0:53:01.640 I wish all the best. Liz, love talking to you, 0:53:01.719 --> 0:53:04.359 and I think your ideas are sound. Good luck on Tuesday, right, 0:53:05.360 --> 0:53:06.239 Thank you, thank you. 0:53:06.360 --> 0:53:08.440 Make sure you get out your vote Cincinnati, all right. 0:53:08.520 --> 0:53:11.680 Six thirty am Tuesday, polls open Liz Keating looking for 0:53:11.760 --> 0:53:14.000 your vote, among many others as well. I've been members 0:53:14.040 --> 0:53:16.400 of council on I kind of, you know, want to 0:53:16.600 --> 0:53:19.160 maybe off the record say these things, but are afraid, 0:53:19.200 --> 0:53:21.960 for whatever reason, to poke the bear that is aftat 0:53:22.000 --> 0:53:24.960 peerfall in administration on no way to carry so much juice. Look, 0:53:25.200 --> 0:53:27.920 everyone who makes mistakes, I understand that, but man, I 0:53:28.120 --> 0:53:30.520 just ran up a litany of problems just in the 0:53:30.600 --> 0:53:34.600 last several months, not even a year, and there's probably 0:53:34.680 --> 0:53:36.719 many more I'm missing as well. There's got to be 0:53:36.760 --> 0:53:38.960 someone sending a message saying this will not be tolerated. 0:53:39.000 --> 0:53:42.640 We'll find out Tuesday. Sloaney seven hundred w got going 0:53:42.680 --> 0:53:44.759 back on seven hundred w old. Everybody is talking about 0:53:44.760 --> 0:53:47.839 new and fun and exciting things and joining the show 0:53:47.880 --> 0:53:50.919 this morning on the Big One seven hundred wy're talking 0:53:50.960 --> 0:53:54.360 about fitness and health and food and all that stuff. 0:53:55.000 --> 0:53:58.800 And Sanjay Shavea Crimani's on the show emergency medicine physician, 0:53:58.880 --> 0:54:02.759 but also he's at Dine Weell Dock Health Fitness and 0:54:03.080 --> 0:54:04.920 medicine guy. I think then we got to come up 0:54:04.960 --> 0:54:06.320 with a like the brand here. 0:54:06.239 --> 0:54:09.719 The yeah, the problem is the brand keeps expanding more 0:54:09.760 --> 0:54:11.160 and more and I can't get focused. 0:54:11.200 --> 0:54:13.359 But that'll come in time, okay. So as an ear doc, 0:54:13.400 --> 0:54:15.640 before we get to the topic at hand, which is 0:54:15.680 --> 0:54:18.160 the flu, and people already going, no, I don't need 0:54:18.200 --> 0:54:20.120 to hear about it. You just hit the brakes for 0:54:20.160 --> 0:54:22.239 a second because you don't want the flu. 0:54:22.360 --> 0:54:22.640 The flu. 0:54:22.719 --> 0:54:24.640 Everyone's like, oh, I don't feel well, it's the it's 0:54:24.719 --> 0:54:26.919 now you know when you get the flu, it's a week. 0:54:27.200 --> 0:54:27.319 Right. 0:54:27.440 --> 0:54:29.600 We'll get to that just in the second. But first, 0:54:29.640 --> 0:54:31.800 as an e art doc, we have Halloween happening on 0:54:32.239 --> 0:54:33.919 tomorrow as a matter of fact, So a little trick 0:54:33.960 --> 0:54:35.840 or traders up. When you work a shift in the 0:54:36.120 --> 0:54:39.279 er in the emergency department, what do you wind up seeing? 0:54:39.280 --> 0:54:39.759 What do you see? 0:54:39.760 --> 0:54:43.160 Who presents with what? On Friday and Saturday? So it's 0:54:43.360 --> 0:54:45.680 it's a lot of things, as you can imagine. But 0:54:46.760 --> 0:54:49.239 I'll tell you my my funniest because this is. 0:54:49.280 --> 0:54:51.000 Going to avoid it's like, oh my kid, and what 0:54:51.160 --> 0:54:52.840 you typically see Go okay, I won't do that so 0:54:52.960 --> 0:54:54.120 I don't end up as a patient. 0:54:54.200 --> 0:54:56.440 Yeah, well, I mean I'll tell you so. And it's 0:54:56.560 --> 0:54:58.960 it's all razor blades and can't. And I'm just kidding. 0:55:00.120 --> 0:55:02.600 It's it's clearly an urban myth, right, But I've never 0:55:02.680 --> 0:55:05.879 seen anything like that. I've never seen like poisoning. It's 0:55:06.040 --> 0:55:09.640 it's stuff you wouldn't expect. So, like, the most number, 0:55:10.080 --> 0:55:13.560 according to a large study, was pumpkin carving accidents and 0:55:13.640 --> 0:55:15.440 you would never think about it, but you know that 0:55:15.560 --> 0:55:17.320 may not be on the night of trick or treating, 0:55:17.360 --> 0:55:20.000 but around it, and it tends to be the kids 0:55:20.040 --> 0:55:22.120 that are playing around with sharp objects and never a 0:55:22.160 --> 0:55:25.680 good combination. And so, uh, trick or treating is the 0:55:25.800 --> 0:55:29.480 second part, but it's actually pumpkin carvings the most interesting. Yeah, 0:55:29.520 --> 0:55:31.239 and I've seen a couple of hand injuries from that, 0:55:31.360 --> 0:55:34.200 but never on Halloween night itself, because people are already 0:55:34.520 --> 0:55:37.840 you know, done the damage. You see like fractures and 0:55:38.360 --> 0:55:40.879 dislocations because kids are running to get the next house. 0:55:40.920 --> 0:55:43.720 Trip with a sidewalk fall. Yeah, we definitely see the falls. 0:55:43.760 --> 0:55:46.080 And the problem is, you know, it's it's nighttime, and 0:55:46.200 --> 0:55:48.359 then they're wearing these costumes that might be a little 0:55:48.360 --> 0:55:51.640 bit long, but then they have masks or whatever covering 0:55:51.680 --> 0:55:54.239 their face. Their peripheral vision isn't good and so you 0:55:54.320 --> 0:55:57.280 do see the falls. It can get pretty nasty at times, 0:55:57.360 --> 0:56:01.680 but yeah, I haven't seen anything on Halloween. It ends 0:56:01.760 --> 0:56:04.200 up being kind of entertaining because everyone's coming in with 0:56:04.280 --> 0:56:08.440 their costumes on. Yeah, that's it's it's a bunch of stories. 0:56:08.160 --> 0:56:11.880 All right. Pumpkin carving, fall, trips, falls, occasionally, motor vehicle 0:56:11.920 --> 0:56:14.800 acts and probably as well adults. I'm guessing more alcohol related. 0:56:15.160 --> 0:56:17.439 You got it so unfortunately, and the alcohol gets behind 0:56:17.480 --> 0:56:20.200 the wheel sometimes and that combined with darkness and kids 0:56:20.239 --> 0:56:23.680 in costumes is a bad combination. So yeah, we do 0:56:23.800 --> 0:56:28.600 see some increase of pedestrians struck on on Halloween. 0:56:28.280 --> 0:56:32.160 Gotcha signed? And okay, alcohol related incidents, and I'm sure 0:56:32.560 --> 0:56:36.920 costume related. Any costume related self strangulation, anything like that. 0:56:37.120 --> 0:56:42.719 Decapitation Fortunately, no decapitation yet. No, we don't see any 0:56:42.920 --> 0:56:46.759 anything crazy like that. Things do happen weird things with costumes, 0:56:46.800 --> 0:56:49.400 but for the most part, no, Again, the costumes end 0:56:49.520 --> 0:56:51.360 up being kind of funny at times, especially when they 0:56:51.400 --> 0:56:52.000 show up in them. 0:56:52.239 --> 0:56:54.279 I got a guillotine costume I was walking around is 0:56:54.440 --> 0:56:57.000 actually you don't actually use a real guillotine for that. 0:56:57.160 --> 0:56:58.279 It's that's not. 0:57:00.360 --> 0:57:03.040 I'll tell you though, when it comes to costumes, remember 0:57:03.120 --> 0:57:05.759 if you're gonna get really tipsy and spending an entire 0:57:05.920 --> 0:57:09.000 night in the emergency department sobering up in your costume, 0:57:09.120 --> 0:57:12.400 remember that the Walk of Shame on November one is 0:57:12.520 --> 0:57:14.680 not a fun one to take in a costume. 0:57:14.480 --> 0:57:16.800 Especially if you got It's seriously, you got discharged like 0:57:16.800 --> 0:57:19.280 two weeks later. Oh yeah, it's like, yeah, now you 0:57:19.360 --> 0:57:21.680 have to wear a Halloween costume. Yeah, your whole chicken 0:57:21.720 --> 0:57:24.600 suit shame right, And I'm glad you brought up the 0:57:24.800 --> 0:57:26.840 myth because I've been on this for years, for decades. 0:57:26.960 --> 0:57:30.320 Sanjay is the whole and you were around long when 0:57:30.360 --> 0:57:32.320 they used to bring your candy to the hospital and 0:57:32.360 --> 0:57:34.200 we'll x ray it for you were like, no one 0:57:34.400 --> 0:57:37.160 is putting needles and razor blades and can't. It's just 0:57:37.280 --> 0:57:38.960 that it may be an industrial act and there may 0:57:39.000 --> 0:57:41.400 be a couple I know, one offs with really crazy 0:57:41.440 --> 0:57:43.040 people in the world. I can't say it doesn't happen. 0:57:43.080 --> 0:57:45.200 But the idea that you have to x ray your candy, 0:57:45.880 --> 0:57:47.520 it's all, you know what it is. It's big mom 0:57:47.560 --> 0:57:49.000 and dad? Is what is the industry? A big mom 0:57:49.080 --> 0:57:51.280 and dad? Because all it's kind of funny how like 0:57:51.360 --> 0:57:54.160 when my kids were little, all the Snickers had a 0:57:54.240 --> 0:57:56.080 razor blade though, Yeah, it's just a reason for me 0:57:56.120 --> 0:57:56.840 to steal their candy. 0:57:57.520 --> 0:58:01.560 Yeah exactly, Oh my god, yeah, this is this is 0:58:01.640 --> 0:58:04.640 how the parents enjoy Halloween too, is just by scaring 0:58:04.680 --> 0:58:07.160 their children, as if there's not enough scares going on 0:58:07.240 --> 0:58:07.960 in Halloween already. 0:58:08.000 --> 0:58:11.320 Can I have a sugar overdose? Is that possible? Can 0:58:11.360 --> 0:58:11.920 I overdose? 0:58:12.960 --> 0:58:16.280 Can you like like a classic overdose? Can you feel 0:58:16.360 --> 0:58:18.960 like crap after eating a bunch of sugar? Absolutely? 0:58:19.160 --> 0:58:20.240 Yes, we all get that. 0:58:20.600 --> 0:58:22.600 But uh no, Halloween is the time to eat a 0:58:22.680 --> 0:58:24.760 decent amount of candy and find out where your limits are. 0:58:24.960 --> 0:58:27.120 Yeah, that's my problem is. I'm like, I'm like a 0:58:28.160 --> 0:58:30.080 wild dog. I'm like a rabit dog. I'm just gonna 0:58:30.080 --> 0:58:32.000 eat it all. Like we get the big Costco candy 0:58:32.040 --> 0:58:34.280 and I walk picture. I'm like, Michelle, quit buying all 0:58:34.320 --> 0:58:36.240 that Costco candy. Well, we don't how many kids. It's 0:58:36.240 --> 0:58:38.439 a new house. I'm like, listen, we'll buy one bag 0:58:38.680 --> 0:58:40.520 and when it's gone, the light goes off next it. 0:58:40.720 --> 0:58:42.400 Yeah, stop doing this to me. But then there's no 0:58:42.520 --> 0:58:45.280 leftover Halleen candy. And that's why we love Halloween as. 0:58:45.200 --> 0:58:48.040 Adults is freaking control is my problem? No, I just 0:58:48.120 --> 0:58:48.760 can't say. 0:58:48.680 --> 0:58:49.280 You're not alone. 0:58:50.800 --> 0:58:53.960 I'm right there with you, all right. So that's Halloween. 0:58:54.000 --> 0:58:56.600 Let's talk about cold and flu season. I uh, five 0:58:56.680 --> 0:58:59.680 days ago got my received my vaccine for it. Went 0:58:59.720 --> 0:59:01.760 to my local right eight or no, right eight. I 0:59:01.800 --> 0:59:04.120 went to right Age no more? Is it Walgreens or 0:59:04.320 --> 0:59:06.480 I don't save it. I think with CBS actually rolled 0:59:06.480 --> 0:59:08.640 it up. Got my shots all good. I do that 0:59:08.720 --> 0:59:11.680 every year, and I'm a proponent of the flu vaccine. 0:59:12.080 --> 0:59:14.520 A few folks in the hospital get it. I'm thinking 0:59:14.600 --> 0:59:15.880 that's a probably a pretty good thing to get. 0:59:16.120 --> 0:59:19.440 Yeah, I you know, it's interesting. In training, I it 0:59:19.560 --> 0:59:22.240 was a optional thing. So you know, this is twenty 0:59:22.360 --> 0:59:25.000 years ago. The flu shot was optional and I got 0:59:25.040 --> 0:59:27.560 the flu my fourth year of residency, and so I 0:59:27.640 --> 0:59:28.480 have never looked back. 0:59:28.520 --> 0:59:28.920 I've got it. 0:59:29.000 --> 0:59:31.280 I get it every year since then because I just 0:59:31.400 --> 0:59:34.480 felt like trash for a solid week. As a week, 0:59:35.120 --> 0:59:37.440 I was laid up pretty good, and so I get 0:59:37.480 --> 0:59:40.040 it myself every year. Yes, because it's mandatory now, but 0:59:40.400 --> 0:59:41.640 happily I've. 0:59:41.520 --> 0:59:43.360 Gotten it for years, and I think last year I 0:59:43.440 --> 0:59:47.160 actually still wound up contracting flu and I was sick. 0:59:47.240 --> 0:59:49.840 I was like three days. I felt really bad past 0:59:49.920 --> 0:59:51.360 the point and we'll get into you know what that 0:59:51.480 --> 0:59:54.480 diagnosis is. But I think I got Simpsons that wasn't 0:59:55.040 --> 0:59:57.040 and I felt like, like crap. I think for four five, 0:59:57.120 --> 0:59:59.160 six in and i'd like last for like the effects 0:59:59.240 --> 1:00:01.160 last for two weeks after almost a month after, and 1:00:01.240 --> 1:00:03.360 I thought, wow, if I got that with the vaccine, 1:00:03.840 --> 1:00:05.280 what would have happened to me if I hadn't had 1:00:05.320 --> 1:00:05.760 the vaccine. 1:00:05.840 --> 1:00:08.320 Yeah, so the you know, people say, well I still 1:00:08.360 --> 1:00:10.640 got the flu despite getting the flu shot, And it's true, 1:00:10.960 --> 1:00:14.200 it reduces cases of flu by only fifty percent, so 1:00:14.320 --> 1:00:15.920 one out of every two times you're still going to 1:00:16.000 --> 1:00:19.760 get the flu. But it's obviously much more effective in 1:00:19.880 --> 1:00:22.280 preventing it. But then when you get it, it decreases 1:00:22.320 --> 1:00:24.440 the duration for like two to three days, and so 1:00:24.600 --> 1:00:27.680 your symptoms aren't as bad, they don't last as long. Yes, 1:00:27.760 --> 1:00:30.200 you might still get the flu, but it's better than 1:00:30.280 --> 1:00:31.680 not having it, you know, having. 1:00:31.520 --> 1:00:32.960 A shot in time. I think we look at it 1:00:33.080 --> 1:00:35.120 raw incorrectly. You hear people is like, well I got 1:00:35.160 --> 1:00:37.920 the flu shot and I still got the flu, So 1:00:38.000 --> 1:00:40.920 it doesn't it doesn't work. Well, it does work, it's 1:00:41.080 --> 1:00:44.120 just not one hundred percent accurate. It's not going you know, 1:00:44.160 --> 1:00:47.800 boiling water for ten minutes will kill the bacteria. That's science, right, 1:00:47.840 --> 1:00:50.080 You're going to do that. It's it's still a crab. 1:00:50.120 --> 1:00:51.680 It's still a fifty to fifty shot. But if you 1:00:51.840 --> 1:00:55.480 get it, if you get the inject, the symptoms reverdy less. 1:00:55.560 --> 1:00:57.240 And my point is like, well, got I still got 1:00:57.280 --> 1:00:58.720 the flow. I'm not going to get a shot this year. No, 1:00:58.720 --> 1:01:01.000 I'm definitely going to my shot because as sick as 1:01:01.040 --> 1:01:03.800 I was last year, I could I probably go into 1:01:03.840 --> 1:01:05.360 the hospital. It could have been worse. It could have 1:01:05.400 --> 1:01:06.040 been a lot worse. 1:01:06.080 --> 1:01:08.880 And especially if you you know, very young, very old, 1:01:09.520 --> 1:01:12.040 those are the people that definitely need it because you know, 1:01:12.200 --> 1:01:16.160 the hospitalizations come mainly from the patients that are not vaccinated, 1:01:16.440 --> 1:01:19.720 and so the sickest of the sick are unvaccinated against 1:01:19.760 --> 1:01:22.360 the flu. So if you do fall into those categories 1:01:22.480 --> 1:01:25.480 or your immune system just isn't good at baseline, yeah, 1:01:25.560 --> 1:01:26.400 definitely think about it. 1:01:26.600 --> 1:01:28.560 Yeah, and I look thinking pretty healthy. I'm like that 1:01:28.680 --> 1:01:31.520 that really hit me. But then you hear like I 1:01:31.720 --> 1:01:33.360 was sick, I was sick yesterday and back to that 1:01:33.400 --> 1:01:36.120 because I had the flu. It's like, that's not the flu, right, 1:01:36.200 --> 1:01:38.680 it's gastroenteritis. It's it could be a bunch of stomach 1:01:38.720 --> 1:01:39.720 flu is, gasternoritis. 1:01:39.760 --> 1:01:40.240 It's not that. 1:01:40.560 --> 1:01:44.400 It's when you just dire's in a cold, irregular sickness 1:01:44.440 --> 1:01:45.120 and the flu is what. 1:01:45.680 --> 1:01:48.520 So mainly it's how you present. It's the severity. So 1:01:48.600 --> 1:01:51.080 you're going to have higher fevers with the flu. Typically, 1:01:51.120 --> 1:01:53.040 you're going to have body aches, You're going to feel 1:01:53.080 --> 1:01:56.640 like a truck hit you. Yeah, this whole quote stomach 1:01:56.680 --> 1:01:59.520 flu thing is usually a different virus that just affects 1:01:59.560 --> 1:02:02.280 your your gi tracks. But it's going to be the aches. 1:02:02.480 --> 1:02:04.360 It's going to be the high fevers. You're going to 1:02:04.400 --> 1:02:07.520 have a headache usually and just overall feel like not 1:02:07.720 --> 1:02:10.960 doing anything. Yeah, kids, especially vomiting diarrhe are right, they 1:02:11.040 --> 1:02:14.480 can have everything. Yeah, Kids, kids will present however they want, 1:02:14.680 --> 1:02:17.800 dying of it and and forty eight hours are good exactly. 1:02:17.920 --> 1:02:19.880 They bounce back and they're like mom, Dad, play with me. 1:02:19.960 --> 1:02:21.840 And you're like, not for another two weeks, thank. 1:02:21.680 --> 1:02:23.520 You very much. Yeah, why does it seem like that 1:02:23.680 --> 1:02:25.480 lingers when you're sick and I don't know if it's 1:02:26.320 --> 1:02:28.360 the effects of that last for it feels like a 1:02:28.440 --> 1:02:31.400 month where you're still diffnically breathing your hacking stuff up. 1:02:32.160 --> 1:02:33.240 In the older we get it's worse. 1:02:33.440 --> 1:02:36.240 Yeah, So the it's the post residual kind of cough. 1:02:36.360 --> 1:02:38.920 So after you get sick, the virus that's wreaking its 1:02:38.960 --> 1:02:41.640 havoc for like a week or so. Then it goes away, 1:02:41.720 --> 1:02:43.560 but you've got all this crud left in your air 1:02:43.640 --> 1:02:45.880 wings and your you know, in your windpipe, in your 1:02:46.080 --> 1:02:48.680 in your lungs, and that stuff still has to come up. 1:02:48.760 --> 1:02:51.640 So actually it's like three to eight weeks after a cold, 1:02:51.760 --> 1:02:54.160 you can still expect to have some sort of cough. 1:02:54.240 --> 1:02:55.760 And yes, it gets a little bit worse when we 1:02:55.840 --> 1:02:58.840 get older because we're not as good as coughing when 1:02:58.880 --> 1:03:01.240 we get older and clear that stuff. So all that 1:03:01.320 --> 1:03:04.240 inflammation is left, we keep coughing, and you know it 1:03:04.320 --> 1:03:06.840 bothers everyone around you because it's three to eight weeks later, 1:03:06.920 --> 1:03:10.000 but you're no longer contagious. It's just you're you're hacking 1:03:10.080 --> 1:03:11.240 up along still fine, is. 1:03:11.240 --> 1:03:14.840 There anything you can do to speed the process up? 1:03:15.280 --> 1:03:19.600 So yes, early on there's a lot of stuff sold 1:03:19.640 --> 1:03:21.640 out there right, like, right, do you take anything song? 1:03:22.560 --> 1:03:24.600 I'm a big believer in vitamin supplements, that kind of 1:03:24.600 --> 1:03:27.880 thing ahead of time. I tried the zinc before when 1:03:27.920 --> 1:03:29.520 I feel it coming on and I want to find 1:03:29.560 --> 1:03:31.400 note this plus ebo or not, but it feels like 1:03:31.520 --> 1:03:32.080 that might help. 1:03:32.240 --> 1:03:35.080 Yeah, so you nailed it. So zinc is literally the 1:03:35.160 --> 1:03:37.680 only thing that's even shown to have maybe some effects. 1:03:38.840 --> 1:03:41.680 Zinc seventy five milligrams to one hundred milligrams a day, 1:03:42.080 --> 1:03:44.880 you know, broken up is the only thing that's shown 1:03:44.960 --> 1:03:49.120 to decrease the risk of getting a bad virus or 1:03:49.120 --> 1:03:52.600 at least decreasing the symptoms you have. That has to 1:03:52.680 --> 1:03:55.880 be in lozenge form, though. The nasal spray is actually 1:03:56.000 --> 1:03:58.800 no good, so avoid that because actually you can cause harm. 1:03:58.840 --> 1:04:02.160 It can you know, a affect the way you smell permanently. 1:04:02.400 --> 1:04:05.800 Oh yeah, So the zinc lozenges is what you're looking for. 1:04:05.960 --> 1:04:06.080 Now. 1:04:06.120 --> 1:04:07.880 Those can be pretty rough on the stomach though, because 1:04:07.880 --> 1:04:12.280 it's a heavy metal you're literally eating a metal gutters exactly. Yeah, 1:04:12.480 --> 1:04:15.880 what we do every hour, we gun a gun. But 1:04:16.000 --> 1:04:17.560 the zinc can be tough on the stomach, but it 1:04:17.920 --> 1:04:20.240 is has been shown to have some effects. The rest 1:04:20.280 --> 1:04:21.480 of the supplements not so much. 1:04:21.480 --> 1:04:22.760 Why does the zinc work? What's it do? 1:04:23.200 --> 1:04:23.320 Uh? 1:04:23.760 --> 1:04:26.320 You know, that's a great question. So I think they're 1:04:26.400 --> 1:04:29.560 still trying to figure it out. But you know, so 1:04:29.640 --> 1:04:32.200 what I heard, by the way, it's son Jay Shiva Cramani. 1:04:32.200 --> 1:04:33.440 He's an emergency room physician. 1:04:33.480 --> 1:04:35.439 Balls are a health guy in Scotsland show seven hundred 1:04:35.440 --> 1:04:38.080 double Alway's gonna pop it on Thursdays and it could 1:04:38.080 --> 1:04:39.720 be you know, working out. We'll get to that a 1:04:39.760 --> 1:04:42.800 little bit, and you know, neutrons and dieting and GLP 1:04:42.920 --> 1:04:45.080 injections and stuff like that. But today we're talking about well, 1:04:45.120 --> 1:04:48.960 Halloween crazy stuff. You've seen in the hour Halloween carving 1:04:49.000 --> 1:04:51.960 pumpkins number one and number two is kids running with 1:04:52.000 --> 1:04:53.680 their mask on and tripping and falling and break in 1:04:53.840 --> 1:04:58.480 our number three is people emulating themselves because they decided 1:04:58.520 --> 1:05:00.959 they were going to, I don't know, go as human torch. 1:05:01.080 --> 1:05:03.880 But that's that's kind of Darwin there. That's a different thing. 1:05:04.200 --> 1:05:07.640 I'm talking about the flu vaccine and so the zinc 1:05:07.640 --> 1:05:10.800 because I understood it, there's something that it coats the 1:05:10.880 --> 1:05:13.720 throat and so typically if you ingest. If I don't 1:05:13.720 --> 1:05:15.560 know why, it's being swallowing because I think your stomach 1:05:15.600 --> 1:05:19.360 acid would kill this. But when you ingest, the virus 1:05:19.400 --> 1:05:21.880 basically sloths off down your throat and the zinc allows 1:05:21.960 --> 1:05:25.000 that to occur, or maybe it kills that something like that, right, 1:05:25.680 --> 1:05:26.320 it's something like that. 1:05:26.440 --> 1:05:29.480 It also boosts the immune system in general when our 1:05:29.480 --> 1:05:31.920 immune systems are worse in the winter. That's been shown too. 1:05:32.080 --> 1:05:34.240 So you know what help we can get. So those 1:05:34.240 --> 1:05:36.320 people that are like, well, I say vitamin C and 1:05:36.400 --> 1:05:38.400 it works for me. You know, if it if it helps, you, 1:05:39.000 --> 1:05:40.760 go for it. As long as you're not harming yourself. 1:05:40.800 --> 1:05:43.160 I'm cool with that too. But yeah, the zinc does 1:05:43.200 --> 1:05:45.560 seem to have some effect, a little bit of an effect. Okay, good, 1:05:45.600 --> 1:05:47.160 that's good to know. But by and large, it's like 1:05:47.240 --> 1:05:49.640 you've got it. Hydrate, that's all in rest. That's all 1:05:49.640 --> 1:05:49.920 you can do. 1:05:50.200 --> 1:05:50.600 Hydrate. 1:05:50.880 --> 1:05:51.120 Rest. 1:05:51.760 --> 1:05:54.960 And yeah. The other thing is, you know, the annoying 1:05:55.040 --> 1:05:57.600 cough is another thing. There is no magic bullet for cough. 1:05:57.640 --> 1:06:00.320 People always come in like four weeks later. If actually 1:06:00.760 --> 1:06:03.120 this last week, I've seen a ton of patients with 1:06:03.200 --> 1:06:05.040 this lingering cough. So I don't know what's going on 1:06:05.120 --> 1:06:07.520 out there. It's not flu it's not COVID right now, 1:06:07.600 --> 1:06:10.680 it's not RSV. But there's so many crud, Cincinnati crud's 1:06:10.720 --> 1:06:13.479 going around and it's leaving people with this like prolonged cough, 1:06:13.560 --> 1:06:16.560 and unfortunately there's nothing I can prescribe that will make 1:06:16.600 --> 1:06:19.160 it go away. Honey has been shown as long as 1:06:19.160 --> 1:06:22.520 you're older than one year old, honey can help the cough. 1:06:22.800 --> 1:06:26.640 Hydration also helps because it decreases that dryness which actually 1:06:26.680 --> 1:06:27.400 triggers a cough. 1:06:27.520 --> 1:06:29.600 Yeah, and especially this time you're a hydrate is very 1:06:29.600 --> 1:06:32.000 important because you're inside the dry air. It's gonna hast 1:06:32.160 --> 1:06:34.760 that that whole disease courts to whether it's that or 1:06:34.800 --> 1:06:38.880 something else. Yeah, that's interesting that there's nothing really can do. 1:06:38.960 --> 1:06:41.400 I mean, the cough lingers. There's some over the counters. 1:06:41.680 --> 1:06:43.160 Sometimes you can get a script for it, but it's 1:06:43.320 --> 1:06:45.160 basically over the counter stuff. We all want to get 1:06:45.200 --> 1:06:47.160 that done. It's like I think, so after four weeks 1:06:47.200 --> 1:06:49.240 you're like my guy, three weeks you're thinking, Okay, there's 1:06:49.280 --> 1:06:51.280 something bad going on here, right, that's when you should 1:06:51.520 --> 1:06:52.800 well for four weeks. 1:06:52.920 --> 1:06:56.000 Yes, though, if it's not getting worse, you know it's 1:06:56.040 --> 1:06:57.880 not to worry about. Or if you're not having trouble 1:06:57.920 --> 1:06:59.760 breathing or chest pains or anything like that. If you 1:06:59.840 --> 1:07:02.280 are having something like that, worry if it's more than 1:07:02.360 --> 1:07:04.480 like eight weeks, which I know sounds like forever. And 1:07:04.560 --> 1:07:06.720 it is forever to have a cough right because your 1:07:06.760 --> 1:07:09.560 sleep is bad, everything's bad. Everyone's annoyed at you because 1:07:09.560 --> 1:07:11.920 all you're doing is coughing. You want to get it 1:07:12.000 --> 1:07:14.560 taken care of, but usually it's like eight weeks later. 1:07:14.680 --> 1:07:16.760 But you know, there are medicines that might be able 1:07:16.840 --> 1:07:20.080 to help at that point, but there's no magic bullet on. 1:07:20.200 --> 1:07:22.640 Yeah, like some of the dm as san it's gonna 1:07:22.680 --> 1:07:25.880 take care of it. It's interesting because like my mom, 1:07:25.960 --> 1:07:27.600 for example, growing up, it was like, wow, he's got 1:07:27.680 --> 1:07:30.560 a fluke taking the doctor ahead and get himself, Get 1:07:30.600 --> 1:07:32.800 him on something, get him on the head. Anti viral, 1:07:32.880 --> 1:07:35.080 you don't want to. There's there's really now there's a virus. 1:07:35.120 --> 1:07:36.840 There's a virus in bacteria. 1:07:36.600 --> 1:07:39.720 Exactly, so you know pneumonia, that's gonna be a bacteria 1:07:39.760 --> 1:07:42.520 that causes it. Stuff like the flu flu is a virus. 1:07:42.640 --> 1:07:45.760 But almost every single Cincinnati crud thing out there is 1:07:45.840 --> 1:07:48.720 a virus. And unfortunately, antibiotics don't do anything. And some 1:07:48.800 --> 1:07:51.040 people say, well, this zpac works for me every time. 1:07:51.120 --> 1:07:53.400 This antiotic works for me every time, and it's you know, 1:07:53.600 --> 1:07:55.640 there may be a little something to it as far 1:07:55.680 --> 1:07:58.480 as anti and inflammation, but it's not treating the infection. 1:07:59.000 --> 1:08:01.440 And you know, it's usually a fact that people have 1:08:01.560 --> 1:08:03.400 just been sick long enough that they're getting better and 1:08:03.480 --> 1:08:05.600 it just happens to coincide with the time that they 1:08:05.640 --> 1:08:06.680 start on an antibiotic. 1:08:06.800 --> 1:08:09.840 Right, I gotcha, Sanjay on that you know you demand 1:08:09.880 --> 1:08:12.040 your doctor right that that led us to this whole 1:08:12.280 --> 1:08:15.040 superbug thing. Right, It's like, we wrote ow me two 1:08:15.080 --> 1:08:17.719 scripts for a bacteria kill a bacteri when s virus 1:08:17.720 --> 1:08:18.920 and we knew that, but we did it to shut 1:08:19.000 --> 1:08:22.080 the patient up. Yeah, And then that dividend with that was, well, 1:08:22.120 --> 1:08:25.120 we've not got these superbugs out there that are immune 1:08:25.160 --> 1:08:27.960 to the overwriting of those prescriptions exactly. 1:08:28.600 --> 1:08:28.760 You know. 1:08:29.000 --> 1:08:30.960 The best story I have of that, or the most 1:08:31.080 --> 1:08:35.120 unfortunate story is my uncle in India would be like, oh, yeah, 1:08:35.160 --> 1:08:38.600 I take this this medicine for diarrhea every time. And 1:08:38.720 --> 1:08:41.719 I'm like, yeah, we're having talks about diarrhea for unclear reasons, 1:08:41.840 --> 1:08:43.720 and so you know, I'm like, what is it? Is 1:08:43.760 --> 1:08:46.160 it emodium? And he breaks out this pill and it 1:08:46.280 --> 1:08:49.360 is leve aphloxysm, which is a super powerful, you know, 1:08:49.479 --> 1:08:52.040 antibiotic that we really hold back for a lot of things. 1:08:52.080 --> 1:08:54.439 But in India that stuff's flowing over the counter really 1:08:54.760 --> 1:08:57.200 and so we see all these nasty super bugs coming 1:08:57.240 --> 1:09:00.160 from other countries where there is no you know, no 1:09:00.320 --> 1:09:02.920 barrier where you don't have to see a doctor for this. So, yes, 1:09:03.040 --> 1:09:06.000 we do want to be stewards of antibiotics as physicians. 1:09:06.400 --> 1:09:06.640 We do. 1:09:07.000 --> 1:09:09.920 You know, this all came out of Yeah, placate the patient, 1:09:10.400 --> 1:09:12.960 but it's done more harm than good with causing you know, 1:09:13.080 --> 1:09:14.479 these these resistant infections. 1:09:14.560 --> 1:09:16.960 Yeah, and that's that's good to rip dividends for a 1:09:17.040 --> 1:09:19.840 long time, and not in a good way. He is 1:09:19.880 --> 1:09:23.640 a Sonjay Schavrokomani. He's an emergency room a physician here 1:09:23.680 --> 1:09:26.920 in Cincinnati, and he's coming on the show like every 1:09:26.960 --> 1:09:29.559 Thursday morning, pop in and talk about health and food 1:09:29.600 --> 1:09:32.240 and in this case the flu. So get the vaccine. 1:09:32.240 --> 1:09:35.240 I know that we've politicized vaccines now and you know, 1:09:35.760 --> 1:09:37.439 believe what you want about the COVID vacs. I mean, 1:09:37.520 --> 1:09:39.320 I don't get it every year. I'm like, every couple 1:09:39.320 --> 1:09:41.360 of years, my doctor says, you know, you're you're pretty healthy, 1:09:41.360 --> 1:09:43.400 you don't need it. But I'm pretty religious about that 1:09:43.479 --> 1:09:45.680 flu vax and I think, you know, you got to 1:09:45.720 --> 1:09:49.599 look at measles and all those series and okay, there's 1:09:49.680 --> 1:09:51.560 the politics of it, but don't let that pollute the 1:09:51.560 --> 1:09:54.160 stuff that's kept well, really kept us alive all these years. 1:09:54.200 --> 1:09:54.320 Too. 1:09:54.360 --> 1:09:55.880 The same people, a lot of the people who are 1:09:55.880 --> 1:09:58.160 against the vaccines are the same ones who benefited from 1:09:58.240 --> 1:09:59.760 for the last X number of years. 1:10:00.000 --> 1:10:02.720 Absolutely, so you know, everyone has to make their own 1:10:02.760 --> 1:10:05.920 individual decisions. We have to respect that too and really 1:10:06.040 --> 1:10:08.760 understand the drivers of that. If you do have any 1:10:08.840 --> 1:10:10.960 questions though, you know, talk to your doctor about it, 1:10:11.920 --> 1:10:14.160 and you know, we just want the best thing for 1:10:14.280 --> 1:10:15.840 you and your family and loved ones. 1:10:15.880 --> 1:10:17.840 All right, sign jail the best. Thanks again. You can 1:10:17.880 --> 1:10:20.200 get a reach in His handle is at dine Well 1:10:20.280 --> 1:10:22.679 Dock at dine Well Dock and we'll talk next Thursday. 1:10:22.720 --> 1:10:24.960 Appreciate you, good see you. Thanks wean, It's a Scott's 1:10:25.000 --> 1:10:29.080 Loan show. This is seven hundred W Clony, seven hundred 1:10:29.160 --> 1:10:33.360 WLW more bad news for your pocketbook. Here, if you're 1:10:33.400 --> 1:10:36.040 in Ohio, you and your family could be paying more 1:10:36.120 --> 1:10:39.680 for electricity. Why, well, the federal government is trying to 1:10:39.720 --> 1:10:42.160 extend the life of aging coal plants that were once 1:10:42.320 --> 1:10:44.959 slated for call closure. And those things are notoriously expensive 1:10:45.000 --> 1:10:47.439 to keep going. And we're seeing this trend across the 1:10:47.479 --> 1:10:50.880 country as well. And those expenses too would then be 1:10:50.960 --> 1:10:53.960 passed on a consumer, So says the Citizen's Utility Board 1:10:54.000 --> 1:10:56.920 of Ohio. Tom Bullock is here, he's our executive director. Tom. Welcome, 1:10:56.960 --> 1:10:57.280 How are you. 1:10:58.760 --> 1:10:59.320 Good morning? 1:11:00.000 --> 1:11:00.800 Good good? 1:11:00.960 --> 1:11:03.559 Why would keeping a coal plant open cost us more money? 1:11:04.080 --> 1:11:06.080 Does it cost more money to open new plants? 1:11:08.400 --> 1:11:11.080 Most of these plants in question are very old, seventy 1:11:11.160 --> 1:11:13.519 years old, sixty years old. They were designed for a 1:11:13.600 --> 1:11:18.360 different era. The parts don't exist, The facilities aren't designed 1:11:18.439 --> 1:11:21.840 to power up or power down swiftly or respond to 1:11:21.920 --> 1:11:25.080 economic conditions. So it's a little bit like if your 1:11:25.200 --> 1:11:28.640 uncle gave you a nineteen seventy two Chevy and it 1:11:28.720 --> 1:11:31.000 still runs a leaded gasoline and you're supposed to drive 1:11:31.080 --> 1:11:35.240 that around. In theory, it's cheaper, but really to operate it, 1:11:35.400 --> 1:11:37.519 how do you get their parts to repair it? When 1:11:37.560 --> 1:11:40.679 nobody makes them. It's difficult. 1:11:41.200 --> 1:11:43.280 Okay, So the question be why why are we forcing 1:11:43.320 --> 1:11:44.240 to keep these plants open? 1:11:44.280 --> 1:11:49.439 Then, well, you'd have to ask the White House. The 1:11:49.800 --> 1:11:54.439 White House believes that it wants to support one fuel source. Now, 1:11:54.640 --> 1:11:57.920 power is generated by a mix of sources. Coal, nuclear, 1:11:58.280 --> 1:12:01.280 natural gas is a big, big play, and increasingly wind 1:12:01.360 --> 1:12:06.679 and solar. Those are low costs. And then battery storage 1:12:06.720 --> 1:12:09.839 plays a role as well. Those are essentially large versions 1:12:10.040 --> 1:12:13.280 of the lithium ion batteries you carry around in your 1:12:13.320 --> 1:12:16.760 smartphone in your pocket all day long. Those play a 1:12:16.880 --> 1:12:21.760 role because it evens out the grid and you can 1:12:21.920 --> 1:12:26.400 use cheap solar or wind when there's extra power and 1:12:26.520 --> 1:12:28.680 you don't need it, store it in the battery, and 1:12:28.720 --> 1:12:30.240 then release it when you do need it. 1:12:31.040 --> 1:12:34.120 Gotcha. But what's driving this though, is demand. Right as 1:12:34.160 --> 1:12:37.320 I understand it, we're putting all these AI facilities online. Ohio, 1:12:37.400 --> 1:12:39.960 for example, Columbus Butler County is getting a like a 1:12:40.040 --> 1:12:44.639 million square foot facility as well, and so they're extending 1:12:44.680 --> 1:12:47.120 the life of coal plants because we need to meet demand. 1:12:47.200 --> 1:12:49.360 The problem is the forecast. And I'm sure you know 1:12:49.479 --> 1:12:53.080 by what twenty thirty nine is allegedly going to go 1:12:53.160 --> 1:12:55.560 up some forty percent. That's just demand. We don't have 1:12:55.760 --> 1:12:58.280 the infrastructure and the transmission to be able to get 1:12:58.320 --> 1:13:02.680 that power to howls and businesses and residents obviously in 1:13:02.760 --> 1:13:05.680 addition to all of the technologies going online. So it 1:13:06.040 --> 1:13:07.920 feels to me like an all hands on deck approach. 1:13:08.000 --> 1:13:08.439 Is that wrong? 1:13:10.400 --> 1:13:14.400 Half right, half wrong? There for sure is data centers 1:13:14.520 --> 1:13:17.400 that are driving low growth. Part of that is artificial intelligence, 1:13:17.479 --> 1:13:20.759 part of it's not. There's also new factories coming to Ohio, 1:13:20.960 --> 1:13:24.480 like we hope the Intel plants. As people also electrify 1:13:24.560 --> 1:13:27.640 their homes with electric cars or switch their furnace to 1:13:27.880 --> 1:13:31.479 a heat pump, there's going to be more growth overall. 1:13:31.760 --> 1:13:34.479 But we do have power today. What's causing the price 1:13:34.600 --> 1:13:38.040 bike is the speculation, as you said, about the next 1:13:38.160 --> 1:13:41.120 five years or so for data center growth, and there's 1:13:41.160 --> 1:13:44.840 a bit of an arms race by those companies to 1:13:44.960 --> 1:13:48.320 build out. And if you don't have power, data center 1:13:48.400 --> 1:13:51.880 is a warehouse full of expensive junk. So it's a 1:13:52.040 --> 1:13:55.240 real issue. But it's not coal that is needed. It's 1:13:55.840 --> 1:14:00.240 power that the market decides is the best choice, and 1:14:00.400 --> 1:14:03.920 that gets to the heart of it. Government isn't supposed 1:14:03.920 --> 1:14:06.360 to be picking winners and losers. And if the White 1:14:06.439 --> 1:14:11.280 House picks losing facilities that are closed because they're the 1:14:11.360 --> 1:14:15.920 most expensive and forces people to use those market losers 1:14:15.960 --> 1:14:19.200 to drive power, it's going to make losers out of 1:14:19.280 --> 1:14:23.120 all how consumers, because what you're doing is you're spiking 1:14:23.200 --> 1:14:26.759 the market. The market is designed to have an auction 1:14:27.200 --> 1:14:31.960 and the lowest cost supplier wins. But if somebody comes 1:14:32.040 --> 1:14:33.880 in and says, hey, market, I'm going to force you 1:14:33.960 --> 1:14:37.280 to not just take expensive power, but the most expensive 1:14:37.360 --> 1:14:41.560 power from the oldest and leaf nimble and least adaptive facilities, 1:14:42.000 --> 1:14:46.559 it's keews everything. So the issue isn't the fuel source. 1:14:46.720 --> 1:14:51.080 The issue is let the market function like it's supposed 1:14:51.080 --> 1:14:52.520 to without tampering. 1:14:53.200 --> 1:14:54.400 What does the market want. 1:14:56.600 --> 1:15:02.080 When the market wants more power and affordable power, which 1:15:02.080 --> 1:15:04.680 is going to be a little bit of an up 1:15:04.720 --> 1:15:07.760 and down as you bring new resources on. But if 1:15:07.800 --> 1:15:12.360 you let the market function, a temporary high price in 1:15:12.439 --> 1:15:16.080 the short term will level out and decrease over time. 1:15:17.200 --> 1:15:19.800 The challenge, though, is that our regional grid, it's called 1:15:19.880 --> 1:15:25.120 pjm Ohio's part of thirteen states in a grid that 1:15:25.920 --> 1:15:30.920 includes the mid Atlantic, Virginia, Maryland, Pennsylvania, et cetera. It's 1:15:31.040 --> 1:15:35.160 not easy to get new power added to the grid, 1:15:36.000 --> 1:15:40.400 and that is worsening prices in their terms. So PJM, 1:15:41.240 --> 1:15:44.560 not the federal government, also has work to do to 1:15:44.800 --> 1:15:49.360 make the hot prices, which are setting the signal to suppliers. Hey, 1:15:50.200 --> 1:15:54.719 power producers, come online, we need you. The market's sending 1:15:54.800 --> 1:15:58.880 that signal. But the problem is PGM has restrictions about 1:15:59.320 --> 1:16:02.200 adding power or interconnecting with the grid that are too 1:16:02.280 --> 1:16:04.160 slow and difficult. So the prices are going to be 1:16:04.240 --> 1:16:07.400 high for a while with no market solutions. So PJM 1:16:07.600 --> 1:16:10.120 has work to do to lower our prices. 1:16:10.360 --> 1:16:12.920 Is this just a case of bureaucracy? And this is 1:16:12.960 --> 1:16:15.519 what is It's a choke point in that we have 1:16:15.800 --> 1:16:19.280 an increasing demand for power, and so you address that 1:16:19.400 --> 1:16:22.120 by keeping the old technology online when of course, keeping 1:16:22.160 --> 1:16:24.400 old stuff going, as you pointed out, as always more 1:16:24.439 --> 1:16:28.080 expensive the future. To me, you should be everything should 1:16:28.080 --> 1:16:34.160 be on the table. We if wind or solar, whatever works, hydrogen, nuclear, 1:16:34.280 --> 1:16:36.639 whatever it is, whatever we can get to market more quickly, 1:16:37.160 --> 1:16:39.599 that's what we should be favoring at this point. Why 1:16:39.680 --> 1:16:42.400 isn't that happening, especially with an administration it seems so 1:16:42.479 --> 1:16:45.480 friendly about getting rid of all the gridlock and bureaucracy 1:16:45.560 --> 1:16:47.120 and doze and all that stuff that fits right in. 1:16:47.200 --> 1:16:48.000 Why isn't that happening? 1:16:49.439 --> 1:16:51.920 Well, because I think what's happening is a lobbyist and 1:16:51.960 --> 1:16:56.720 the political favors are getting involved instead of instead of 1:16:56.840 --> 1:16:59.920 letting the market. So capitalism as a creative destructive cycle. 1:17:00.040 --> 1:17:03.479 What happens is the least expensive old technology goes away 1:17:03.560 --> 1:17:06.679 and is replaced by a new, better mousetrapper, in this case, 1:17:06.760 --> 1:17:10.800 a new, cheaper generation facility. But if the people who 1:17:10.880 --> 1:17:14.080 are friends with the old facility say, hey, wait a minute, 1:17:14.080 --> 1:17:16.439 we don't like the market. If you do me a 1:17:16.520 --> 1:17:20.840 political favor, well, then it makes everything more expensive for 1:17:20.920 --> 1:17:24.920 everybody else. There are more than one thousand power production 1:17:25.520 --> 1:17:30.479 generation facilities in our regional thirteen state grid. If you 1:17:30.880 --> 1:17:35.360 say the top fifty or one hundred most expensive power 1:17:35.439 --> 1:17:39.599 plants are forced to be kept open and sold even 1:17:39.680 --> 1:17:42.320 when the companies that own them want to close them, 1:17:43.240 --> 1:17:46.760 you're going to skew that market. So there's enough out 1:17:47.760 --> 1:17:51.640 pardon me, there's enough out there that we don't need 1:17:51.760 --> 1:17:54.280 to tamper with. We need to do what the state 1:17:54.320 --> 1:17:57.599 of Ohio did earlier this year. Bit of Ohio deserves 1:17:57.640 --> 1:18:01.360 some credit. Is leaned into market competition, technology neutral. It 1:18:01.439 --> 1:18:04.960 doesn't try to pick winners and losers about which fuel source. 1:18:05.080 --> 1:18:08.160 It says, we're not going to have regulated generation. We 1:18:08.320 --> 1:18:10.880 do want to expand power production so that we have 1:18:11.000 --> 1:18:15.440 affordable the keyword of s affordable energy to power our economy. 1:18:16.080 --> 1:18:18.920 And we're going to let the investors in the free 1:18:19.000 --> 1:18:23.759 market competition do its job, which means when an investor 1:18:25.400 --> 1:18:29.040 takes a risk on a plant, if they messed up 1:18:29.120 --> 1:18:32.080 the losses on them, the loss doesn't get forced to 1:18:32.160 --> 1:18:35.400 be paid for by consumers, which is what regulated monopolies do. 1:18:36.560 --> 1:18:39.800 So basically, the federal government is trying to turn back 1:18:39.840 --> 1:18:44.160 the clock to a regulated monopoly style of power supply 1:18:44.320 --> 1:18:47.720 decision making. We don't need that today. We've got all 1:18:47.840 --> 1:18:51.360 kinds of technology that can be a better solution. I 1:18:51.560 --> 1:18:54.559 like to say engineers are smart. People are smart. If 1:18:54.600 --> 1:18:57.519 you can just get the legal and the financial out 1:18:57.560 --> 1:19:00.160 of the way of the inventors and the engineers, we 1:19:00.240 --> 1:19:03.519 could do all kinds of cool new solutions. But it's 1:19:03.520 --> 1:19:05.320 hard to get past legal and. 1:19:05.439 --> 1:19:07.759 There's a matter of factors. It's Tom Bullock, Executive Director 1:19:07.760 --> 1:19:10.680 of Citizens Utility Board of Ohio. Because of the high 1:19:10.760 --> 1:19:12.879 demand that we're facing when it comes to our electrical 1:19:12.960 --> 1:19:16.320 grid and power and the choke point, which of course 1:19:16.400 --> 1:19:19.360 is demand and we don't have transmission and supply that's 1:19:19.400 --> 1:19:22.200 going to drive closs up in. We're adding more and 1:19:22.280 --> 1:19:24.679 more infrastructure in the forums. Well, you know, people buying 1:19:24.680 --> 1:19:26.880 electric cars plugging in. But the big one is data 1:19:26.960 --> 1:19:29.120 centers in AI and we're putting plants all over, including 1:19:29.160 --> 1:19:33.080 Butler County, that just need a tremendous amount of energy 1:19:33.360 --> 1:19:36.400 and resources for that. Water is another great example of 1:19:36.479 --> 1:19:38.120 that thing too. Now maybe not in our scope here, 1:19:38.200 --> 1:19:41.200 but some data centers consume up to five million gallons 1:19:41.240 --> 1:19:43.360 of water a day. That's about enough for a town 1:19:43.400 --> 1:19:46.479 of about fifty thousand people, which is an incredible amount 1:19:46.479 --> 1:19:50.439 of resources dedicated to keeping power that little thing in 1:19:50.520 --> 1:19:52.960 our hands. Right with AI and infrastrate and information the 1:19:53.040 --> 1:19:55.280 data center right a tremendous amount of polage. 1:19:56.600 --> 1:19:58.559 We should also be careful. Some of this is data 1:19:58.640 --> 1:20:02.040 center speculation. It's a bubble that converse and some of 1:20:02.120 --> 1:20:05.600 the data center companies are planning to build one or 1:20:05.680 --> 1:20:10.439 two data centers, but they're filing redundant applications in the 1:20:10.520 --> 1:20:14.200 Great Plain States, in our region, in the Northeast, in 1:20:14.320 --> 1:20:17.400 the Southeast, and they're racing to figure out who gets 1:20:17.560 --> 1:20:21.160 gives them their permit first. So they're not building ten, 1:20:21.800 --> 1:20:25.160 they're only building two. And all of us are scrambling 1:20:25.200 --> 1:20:27.080 and saying, oh my gosh, we have to add all 1:20:27.160 --> 1:20:32.160 this power. So there's an important double checking process that 1:20:32.240 --> 1:20:34.440 we need to do to make sure we're not overbuilding. 1:20:35.080 --> 1:20:38.320 But one consumer who is in Ohio and talked to 1:20:38.800 --> 1:20:42.000 the Cleveland Plain dealers, let me get this straight. Data 1:20:42.120 --> 1:20:46.920 centers are increasing my bill today and I didn't do 1:20:47.080 --> 1:20:51.200 anything to invite them here, and yet their costs are 1:20:51.320 --> 1:20:53.920 already affecting me. This is one more example of where 1:20:54.160 --> 1:20:57.200 business costs get dumped onto Bob and Betty Buckeye and 1:20:57.280 --> 1:20:58.559 they privatize the games. 1:21:00.080 --> 1:21:02.640 What's real, quick, Tom, what's happening with for example, I 1:21:02.680 --> 1:21:04.920 mentioned you know they're getting pulling permits and getting ready 1:21:04.920 --> 1:21:07.960 to build what's going on the Columbus Intel plant, because 1:21:08.000 --> 1:21:10.200 that's still not where they promised to be this point, 1:21:10.520 --> 1:21:13.120 we're pushing operations back another five or six years. 1:21:13.160 --> 1:21:18.519 Are I I think that's right. I know that the 1:21:18.640 --> 1:21:22.120 governor and even the White House has been working to 1:21:22.800 --> 1:21:28.320 continue getting Intel to move forward on the project. There's 1:21:28.400 --> 1:21:34.120 such enormous amounts of money involved that you're going to 1:21:34.439 --> 1:21:38.200 have to have some federal supports for what's called the 1:21:38.320 --> 1:21:42.200 Chips Act. But that was a change between the previous 1:21:42.240 --> 1:21:46.760 administration the current one. So I tend to think that 1:21:47.760 --> 1:21:52.280 it's important for Ohio to pursue and implement these kinds 1:21:52.320 --> 1:21:56.160 of facilities. But you also for you know, we speak 1:21:56.240 --> 1:22:00.559 for small residential consumers. So the point you've been making 1:22:00.800 --> 1:22:02.880 in this conversation a longer than good ones, which is, 1:22:03.240 --> 1:22:07.080 as you build these very large factories for very large 1:22:07.160 --> 1:22:10.000 enner consumers, kind to make sure the way that the 1:22:10.720 --> 1:22:15.719 grid infrastructure is paid for doesn't get dumped onto the daghbles. 1:22:15.800 --> 1:22:18.639 It's like you'll dump your leaves over your back fence 1:22:19.200 --> 1:22:22.439 into your neighbor's yard. But that financially happens all the 1:22:22.600 --> 1:22:26.000 time in the world of utilities, and it shouldn't happen. 1:22:26.360 --> 1:22:28.080 That's why groups like cars try to speak up to 1:22:28.120 --> 1:22:28.960 the little guy. 1:22:29.280 --> 1:22:31.920 How hard is it too, Tom, Because it's always there 1:22:32.040 --> 1:22:34.920 is the effort to get cleaner power, and we need 1:22:34.960 --> 1:22:37.800 more and more of it is it odds with infrastructure 1:22:37.800 --> 1:22:40.880 building infrastructure because there's right of ways. I mean, look 1:22:40.920 --> 1:22:43.599 what happened with the Keystone XL pipeline getting shut down. 1:22:43.680 --> 1:22:46.759 It's a lot more efficient, easier, and safer than taking 1:22:46.840 --> 1:22:48.599 all of that fuel that we need and putting out 1:22:48.640 --> 1:22:50.519 on rail cars where they can. You know, look what 1:22:50.640 --> 1:22:53.080 happened in Ohio, not just a few handful of years ago, 1:22:53.960 --> 1:22:56.400 and that's transporting stuff over rail, which is a lot 1:22:56.439 --> 1:22:58.720 more dangerous and inefficient in the system. What about the 1:22:59.000 --> 1:23:02.160 environmental push back from all this, Is that slowing things 1:23:02.200 --> 1:23:03.360 up at that that's cost those money? 1:23:04.600 --> 1:23:09.479 I don't think so. I think there are land used 1:23:09.560 --> 1:23:14.840 questions anytime into power infrastructure, and that's also true if 1:23:14.840 --> 1:23:18.639 you build a subdivision or a shopping wall. Government has 1:23:18.720 --> 1:23:22.280 to be thoughtful about how it balances the most competing 1:23:22.400 --> 1:23:27.280 interest between the new development and the neighbors. Clean energy 1:23:27.520 --> 1:23:30.960 like wind and solar is increasingly the cheapest on the market. 1:23:31.960 --> 1:23:34.400 If you marry it up with battery storage, then it 1:23:34.439 --> 1:23:37.680 can provide you more of around the clock twenty four 1:23:37.720 --> 1:23:41.479 to seven solution, especially if you think of it not 1:23:42.320 --> 1:23:46.040 at one store or one house, but on an average 1:23:46.040 --> 1:23:50.960 across a statewide region. So if you think of Ohio, Illinois, 1:23:51.479 --> 1:23:54.880 Indiana together, the wind is always blowing somewhere and the 1:23:54.960 --> 1:23:57.600 sun is always shining somewhere. So in the aggregate, you 1:23:57.720 --> 1:24:01.960 could add a lot of inexpensive power to add to 1:24:02.080 --> 1:24:06.000 the mix of more expensive power sources than are traditional 1:24:06.080 --> 1:24:10.560 baseload like nuclear or natural gas. But what you have 1:24:10.760 --> 1:24:14.559 to do is let one hundred companies or a thousand 1:24:14.640 --> 1:24:19.600 companies make their everyday economic decisions and investment decisions, and 1:24:19.800 --> 1:24:23.960 collectively that market will be more intelligent and less expensive 1:24:24.520 --> 1:24:27.519 than a governor or a president trying to put his 1:24:27.680 --> 1:24:31.000 or her thumb on the scale. You know. I mean, 1:24:31.520 --> 1:24:33.439 it's amazing to me that we have to even explain 1:24:33.520 --> 1:24:35.360 this in a country that's supposed to be a free 1:24:35.439 --> 1:24:36.160 market capitalist. 1:24:37.040 --> 1:24:40.680 The people who complain about socialism practice socialism themselves. The 1:24:40.720 --> 1:24:42.920 people who like socialism want more socialism. 1:24:44.040 --> 1:24:46.320 Well, there's some truth to what you just said, and 1:24:46.640 --> 1:24:50.160 there's a hypocrisy in all directions. And all of us 1:24:50.240 --> 1:24:52.120 live in glasshouses, so I should be careful about the 1:24:52.160 --> 1:24:55.720 stones I throw. But I guess because the prices are 1:24:55.880 --> 1:24:59.960 going up. There's a survey that said from last week 1:25:00.200 --> 1:25:03.799 National Survey, thirty four percent of American's sake, electricity prices 1:25:03.880 --> 1:25:06.840 are a major concern. That's high. Forty percent think it's 1:25:06.880 --> 1:25:09.559 a minor concern. This is on our radar and it's 1:25:09.600 --> 1:25:14.160 not going to go away. And yes, data centers are 1:25:14.280 --> 1:25:19.280 kind of the first stage of forcing prices up, but 1:25:19.360 --> 1:25:21.479 there's all these other pressures. For the next twenty years, 1:25:21.720 --> 1:25:24.000 I think it's going to be increasingly concerned, So we're 1:25:24.000 --> 1:25:27.479 going to be spending more time thinking about it. You 1:25:27.600 --> 1:25:30.240 do have solutions on your end. You can insulate your 1:25:30.320 --> 1:25:33.719 home air seal of a calking gun. That's nineteen forties 1:25:33.760 --> 1:25:36.400 technology that's not new, are expensive. You just got to 1:25:36.479 --> 1:25:39.840 do it. But none of us do that perfectly. But 1:25:39.960 --> 1:25:43.840 we can help ourselves. And then new technology is not 1:25:44.000 --> 1:25:46.880 everything has to be a giant megaplant. You could do 1:25:47.479 --> 1:25:51.719 something on your home or business. There's medium tier facilities 1:25:51.760 --> 1:25:55.000 we're working on. So let's say it's on twenty acres 1:25:55.080 --> 1:25:58.160 forty acres or an industrial roof. You could put solar, 1:25:58.360 --> 1:26:02.040 or you could do parts solar, part battery, part natural gas, 1:26:02.560 --> 1:26:05.840 like a microgrid hybrid system. And then it can be 1:26:06.040 --> 1:26:09.799 back up emergency power for a facility or a factory 1:26:09.840 --> 1:26:10.280 that has. 1:26:10.200 --> 1:26:12.800 To run it all but Tom a little bit about 1:26:12.800 --> 1:26:15.720 that business. That's an expensive outlay, and sometimes you know, 1:26:15.800 --> 1:26:17.360 you get an agreement where they put it on quote 1:26:17.400 --> 1:26:19.400 unquote for free. But the veig on that what you're 1:26:19.439 --> 1:26:22.840 paying an interest basis of payback is pretty extreme. That 1:26:23.000 --> 1:26:25.280 that might be good if you have that upfront cash 1:26:25.600 --> 1:26:27.720 or the math works for you, but right now for 1:26:27.800 --> 1:26:28.759 most people that doesn't. 1:26:31.040 --> 1:26:33.439 Well, if you're talking about a business, it's probably easier 1:26:33.479 --> 1:26:36.320 to get there, true, and it depends if your business 1:26:36.439 --> 1:26:39.479 is energy intents of like many family owned businesses in 1:26:39.600 --> 1:26:43.479 Ohio or manufacturing businesses where energy is their second most 1:26:43.560 --> 1:26:48.679 expensive category after labor, so they pay very careful attention 1:26:48.920 --> 1:26:53.439 already to that. So you're right, some businesses it will 1:26:53.479 --> 1:26:55.280 be easier to get there than the other's. Hospitals are 1:26:55.320 --> 1:26:58.120 a good use. Even school systems that have let's say 1:26:58.240 --> 1:27:01.160 five elementary schools to middle school to high school, you 1:27:01.240 --> 1:27:04.880 could aggregate all that power draw and then feed it 1:27:04.960 --> 1:27:07.720 with a virtual net metering system that might be in 1:27:07.800 --> 1:27:11.639 the next county over. Yeah, So I think what you'll 1:27:11.680 --> 1:27:15.400 find is, even if you don't power all of the needs, 1:27:15.600 --> 1:27:18.320 you could do a portion of it, and then that 1:27:18.680 --> 1:27:22.120 gives you a long term, low price, stable contract, and 1:27:22.240 --> 1:27:25.559 so your financial people can say, we're in a better 1:27:25.680 --> 1:27:28.439 position to have control over our bills and our risks, 1:27:28.960 --> 1:27:31.720 and we can plan for the future better. Some of 1:27:31.800 --> 1:27:33.960 the power will buy from the traditional grid, but some 1:27:34.280 --> 1:27:37.200 will get from these other systems, so you have options 1:27:37.360 --> 1:27:40.000 and nobody should be forced to do this. But I 1:27:40.240 --> 1:27:42.559 kind of do think we're going to enter a new 1:27:42.760 --> 1:27:46.040 era where we're thinking more about electricity than. 1:27:45.960 --> 1:27:49.880 We fear is my favor, I'm out of time, But 1:27:50.240 --> 1:27:52.000 my fear is there's going to be, like anything we 1:27:52.040 --> 1:27:55.000 don't do anything proactively, do it reactively, there's going to 1:27:55.040 --> 1:27:57.240 be some sort of energy nine to eleven where our 1:27:57.320 --> 1:27:59.960 grid shutdown will be a crisis before anyone goes back. 1:28:00.120 --> 1:28:01.720 We got to do something about this. That's just what 1:28:01.840 --> 1:28:02.679 we do in America. 1:28:03.479 --> 1:28:06.599 I think we don't inspect a bridge until bridge. 1:28:07.000 --> 1:28:10.160 Yeah, exactly, we need a light at this intersection because 1:28:10.360 --> 1:28:11.840 some kids are going to get hit on their bike. 1:28:11.840 --> 1:28:14.080 Don't worry about it. Kid gets on a bike. Politicians 1:28:14.120 --> 1:28:18.040 out there, why don't we have a stoplight. I think 1:28:18.720 --> 1:28:22.200 I'm a big proponent and fascinated by many nuclear reactors, 1:28:22.240 --> 1:28:25.400 small nuclear reactors to power those AI facilities just have 1:28:25.560 --> 1:28:28.760 it on board. And the problem, of course, I think 1:28:28.840 --> 1:28:32.160 House Bill six and the first energy scandal ruined nuclear 1:28:32.160 --> 1:28:32.920 in the state of Ohio. 1:28:35.680 --> 1:28:40.639 I would I would say there's still possibilities there. It's 1:28:40.800 --> 1:28:44.920 very expensive, but there could be some business use cases 1:28:45.080 --> 1:28:49.240 for it, including your data centers. Uh yeah, it's kind 1:28:49.240 --> 1:28:51.439 of always like, well, twenty years in the future, it'll 1:28:51.479 --> 1:28:53.439 be it'll be ready. Maybe it's ten years in the future, 1:28:53.560 --> 1:28:56.200 we'll see, I mean, all options on the table. But 1:28:56.320 --> 1:29:00.240 some of these data centers may indeed be uh good 1:29:00.560 --> 1:29:03.360 category for using that. I'm hearing three Mile Island in 1:29:03.400 --> 1:29:05.120 New York is going to be reopened by the end 1:29:05.160 --> 1:29:06.280 of the data center something like that. 1:29:06.320 --> 1:29:06.759 In trouble. 1:29:08.000 --> 1:29:13.120 So, though, some of those super intensive, high price and 1:29:13.240 --> 1:29:15.479 they've got to have the power and they can't build 1:29:16.240 --> 1:29:19.000 risk or grip cutting out of them, they made do 1:29:19.200 --> 1:29:19.720 things like that. 1:29:20.280 --> 1:29:22.400 I think that's fascinating. I means to set in that 1:29:22.520 --> 1:29:25.000 direction that you could have a reactor the size of 1:29:25.040 --> 1:29:27.519 I don't know, a filing cabinet or a toaster, and 1:29:27.640 --> 1:29:30.920 that would power a subdivision or a fact or something 1:29:30.920 --> 1:29:33.400 along those lines, and that's essentially send it back into 1:29:33.439 --> 1:29:35.479 the company that makes and get a new one, kind 1:29:35.520 --> 1:29:38.240 of like a battery pack. But Tom Bullock, Executive Director 1:29:38.240 --> 1:29:39.960 of Citizens, you're tell me bortiblell have then and keep 1:29:39.960 --> 1:29:41.439 the call plants open because of the demand, and we 1:29:41.479 --> 1:29:43.240 don't have altered solutions. We got to wait for the 1:29:43.240 --> 1:29:45.360 sky to fall before we do anything. I think that 1:29:45.560 --> 1:29:48.519 is the too long, didn't read versionless conversation. But I 1:29:48.640 --> 1:29:51.040 appreciate your time again this morning, Tom, Thanks again. 1:29:52.200 --> 1:29:53.360 Let's talk some more. Thank you. 1:29:53.800 --> 1:29:56.240 We'll get a news update in this rainy Thursday morning. 1:29:56.240 --> 1:29:58.439 Good news is that's headed out and sunshine back in 1:29:58.520 --> 1:30:01.040 store for a trick or treating tomorrow. So full news update. 1:30:01.120 --> 1:30:03.000 Lot to catch up on wife jumps in the show 1:30:03.040 --> 1:30:04.160 next year. Seven hundred w. 1:30:04.200 --> 1:30:10.640 Worad Jeez, the Princess of Property, the Queen of Closings, 1:30:11.360 --> 1:30:16.439 but Duchess out Deals. It's realistic time with Michelle Sloan 1:30:17.280 --> 1:30:21.599 all Hail, the bestest Remax time agent I've ever met. 1:30:21.880 --> 1:30:25.160 On seven hundred wl W. Good morning, how are you? 1:30:26.520 --> 1:30:27.200 It's a morning? 1:30:27.800 --> 1:30:32.840 It really is something else. It's I'm physical this morning, 1:30:32.920 --> 1:30:35.080 so I left for physicals. I did get a blood 1:30:35.120 --> 1:30:37.760 drop for my annual physical and got to the blood 1:30:37.800 --> 1:30:40.639 place at Montgomery Road, christ Hospital, which normally does good work. 1:30:40.680 --> 1:30:42.960 And seven o'clock and there's people behind me. I'm the 1:30:42.960 --> 1:30:44.439 first one there. I thought, okay, good, I got to 1:30:44.439 --> 1:30:47.120 get in. I got a bunch of stuff to do. Yeah, 1:30:47.200 --> 1:30:50.120 that person, we don't know where they are, so we'll. 1:30:49.960 --> 1:30:50.800 Probably never show. 1:30:50.920 --> 1:30:54.559 Never showed. So oh maybe we'ping like seven thirty, well 1:30:54.640 --> 1:30:56.439 maybe like seven forty. And they had one person. There 1:30:56.600 --> 1:30:57.920 was like three thousand people. 1:30:59.360 --> 1:31:00.800 Oh no, that's not good. 1:31:00.920 --> 1:31:04.519 Somebody's somebody's going to get is already either chewed out, 1:31:04.680 --> 1:31:05.360 fired or. 1:31:05.800 --> 1:31:07.960 No, probably not. It's just the way the economy is. 1:31:08.000 --> 1:31:10.679 I guess I don't know. And then traffic, of course 1:31:10.840 --> 1:31:12.880 was But I will say this. Can I goff on 1:31:12.960 --> 1:31:15.000 a little bit of a rant here for SI please? 1:31:15.200 --> 1:31:19.439 You know we're almost a because you're almost to that age. Okay, listen, 1:31:19.520 --> 1:31:21.320 this is like one of those progressive commercials, and those 1:31:21.360 --> 1:31:24.639 progressive commercials hit because it's so true that don't become 1:31:24.680 --> 1:31:25.040 your parents. 1:31:25.200 --> 1:31:26.080 Don't become your parents. 1:31:26.200 --> 1:31:29.479 Absolutely, if you're a senior citizen, if you're retired, and 1:31:29.600 --> 1:31:31.439 your joy you've got you know, you've worked your whole life, 1:31:31.520 --> 1:31:34.240 raised a family, Uh, did everything you're supposed to do. 1:31:34.320 --> 1:31:36.080 God bless you. I want to be there someday myself, 1:31:36.280 --> 1:31:37.800 but could you please, to the love of God, you 1:31:37.920 --> 1:31:39.600 don't need to be the first person in line at 1:31:39.640 --> 1:31:41.240 seven o'clock and born in the place. There are people 1:31:41.280 --> 1:31:43.280 that work that got to get to work, So why 1:31:43.320 --> 1:31:44.840 don't you wait till later in the day to do that. 1:31:45.080 --> 1:31:47.880 Oh you're saying that people that aren't working. 1:31:48.320 --> 1:31:51.400 Correct, It should be people like okay, I got to 1:31:51.400 --> 1:31:53.280 get to work by you know, some people at nine o'clock. 1:31:53.280 --> 1:31:56.599 I'm a little olwer than that. Obviously. They're just saying, 1:31:56.640 --> 1:31:58.599 you know, and here's your dad in my When I'm older, 1:31:58.600 --> 1:31:59.920 I'm not going to be the first guy in line, 1:32:00.000 --> 1:32:02.680 because you know, my prostates kept me on. I wake 1:32:02.760 --> 1:32:03.439 up at three am. 1:32:04.400 --> 1:32:07.080 Wet just a t If you're. 1:32:07.000 --> 1:32:11.240 My dad and he's whatever, eighty years old, he's going 1:32:11.320 --> 1:32:14.000 to be the first one in line. You have to 1:32:14.080 --> 1:32:17.439 do in the first few at church, he is in 1:32:17.560 --> 1:32:20.360 the first one in line because he's up at three am. 1:32:20.439 --> 1:32:22.000 He goes to bed at five pm. 1:32:23.760 --> 1:32:27.240 Man, man, you don't need to be there that early. 1:32:27.400 --> 1:32:29.720 I got the right. I want to waste the whole day. 1:32:29.800 --> 1:32:30.840 What is it you have to do. 1:32:30.960 --> 1:32:32.920 That's so damn important. You're retired. You could do it 1:32:33.000 --> 1:32:34.080 anything you want or nothing. 1:32:34.640 --> 1:32:37.360 If I start going to bed at five pm, seriously, just. 1:32:37.800 --> 1:32:39.200 Well, you're getting closer. 1:32:41.240 --> 1:32:41.479 Thirty. 1:32:41.600 --> 1:32:43.439 Last night, she's in bed. What are you doing? 1:32:43.760 --> 1:32:47.400 It was cold. I wanted to get under the covers 1:32:47.479 --> 1:32:48.479 and snuggle. 1:32:48.560 --> 1:32:50.240 And now by the time I came to bed, you 1:32:50.360 --> 1:32:52.400 got the blanket, all the blankets, and the dog got 1:32:52.560 --> 1:32:54.320 up and try to pick him up. He's growling at you. 1:32:54.439 --> 1:32:56.639 He's like, I'm trying to get my bitch. I'm trying 1:32:56.640 --> 1:33:03.479 to sleep too. I stole your all right, all right, Well, 1:33:04.040 --> 1:33:06.280 so that was the day so far, so hopefull. Everyone's 1:33:06.320 --> 1:33:07.559 you know, if you're stuck on that traffic and. 1:33:07.600 --> 1:33:10.200 Stuff to do right now, everything should be you know, 1:33:11.479 --> 1:33:11.840 rocket and. 1:33:11.960 --> 1:33:15.080 Roll should be calm. All right. So let's jump into 1:33:15.120 --> 1:33:17.559 this real quick. Here we have a FED rate cut. 1:33:17.680 --> 1:33:20.280 What does actually mean for people? I think are thinking like, wow, 1:33:20.320 --> 1:33:22.200 this is going to go back to three percent sometimes so. 1:33:22.520 --> 1:33:26.720 Right, and there is people are posting on social My 1:33:26.880 --> 1:33:28.640 lender said it's going to be three percent by the 1:33:28.760 --> 1:33:29.280 end of the year. 1:33:29.439 --> 1:33:32.080 Don't do anything until then. Blah blah. That is a 1:33:32.160 --> 1:33:32.880 bunch of bees. 1:33:33.400 --> 1:33:35.280 I wonder tell you that they want to get their money. 1:33:35.400 --> 1:33:38.880 I don't know who's telling who what. But the Fed 1:33:39.000 --> 1:33:41.800 cut the fat cut it's benchmark federal funds rate by 1:33:41.840 --> 1:33:45.960 a quarter percent. This was expected. Okay, the markets have 1:33:46.040 --> 1:33:49.839 already expected this cut. They've already you know, we've already 1:33:50.280 --> 1:33:55.000 baked that into the cake. So mortgage rates are likely 1:33:55.240 --> 1:33:58.040 to you know, they've already come down a little bit. 1:33:58.360 --> 1:34:01.320 They're not too six percent at we're like six point 1:34:01.439 --> 1:34:03.880 one three, depending on your credit. 1:34:04.400 --> 1:34:06.640 It's still really good. It's better than it was. 1:34:06.800 --> 1:34:08.559 You know, we were at seven, we were at seven 1:34:08.640 --> 1:34:10.599 and a quarter an hour at six and a quarter, 1:34:10.720 --> 1:34:13.519 let's say. And so if that's for a thirty year 1:34:13.640 --> 1:34:16.439 fixed rate, you can get a lower rate if you 1:34:16.600 --> 1:34:18.800 buy down the rate. There are ways for you to 1:34:18.960 --> 1:34:21.519 get that lower rate, but. 1:34:21.960 --> 1:34:24.360 You have to pay for it. So that's just stuff 1:34:24.439 --> 1:34:25.000 to figure out. 1:34:25.400 --> 1:34:28.759 It doesn't automatically when the Fed cuts the rate, everybody 1:34:28.840 --> 1:34:29.879 in their mind says. 1:34:29.720 --> 1:34:32.640 Oh, yay, mortgage rates are going to go down. No, 1:34:32.800 --> 1:34:34.360 that's not the that's not the case. 1:34:34.840 --> 1:34:39.720 Doesn't automatically translate into a equal quarter point drop in 1:34:40.040 --> 1:34:43.760 mortgage rates. It's it's the short term policy rate. It 1:34:43.880 --> 1:34:46.960 affects all kinds of things, ten year treasury bonds and 1:34:47.000 --> 1:34:48.360 things that I don't even know about. 1:34:48.920 --> 1:34:49.240 And so. 1:34:50.840 --> 1:34:54.760 It's good news, that's for sure. But it doesn't do 1:34:55.000 --> 1:34:58.599 like equal parts lowering our mortgage rate. 1:34:58.800 --> 1:35:00.280 So that's what you just need to know. 1:35:00.760 --> 1:35:04.640 If you're buying or refinancing, there is going to be 1:35:05.640 --> 1:35:09.880 a benefit to that. And so if you have to refinance, 1:35:09.920 --> 1:35:12.120 if you are one of the people who a year 1:35:12.160 --> 1:35:15.080 ago we said, okay, if you find your perfect house 1:35:15.280 --> 1:35:17.840 and you have the high rate, guess what, when the 1:35:17.960 --> 1:35:21.639 rate goes down, you can refinance. That's what's happening right now, 1:35:22.160 --> 1:35:24.040 and we are seeing more and more of that. So 1:35:24.320 --> 1:35:28.960 that came true when when all the real estate agents 1:35:29.000 --> 1:35:31.400 out there said, go ahead, you can buy a house 1:35:31.640 --> 1:35:34.800 as long as you can afford it, you can refinance. Okay, 1:35:35.360 --> 1:35:37.920 that's we're getting into that territory. If you have a 1:35:38.000 --> 1:35:42.880 full point difference, you may want to look into refinancing. 1:35:43.080 --> 1:35:44.320 So that's that's a good thing. 1:35:44.439 --> 1:35:47.960 Got it all right, But somebody hear that and go, well, 1:35:47.960 --> 1:35:50.080 I keep hearing there's gonna be another quarter point cut, 1:35:50.120 --> 1:35:53.200 another code there is, And again I'll just sit and wait. 1:35:53.840 --> 1:35:54.479 You can wait. 1:35:54.760 --> 1:35:57.280 But we're at six point one point three right now. 1:35:57.600 --> 1:36:00.280 It might get to six, it may get to five 1:36:00.360 --> 1:36:04.240 point ninety nine. That's probably not going to make the 1:36:04.360 --> 1:36:08.880 biggest of difference in your monthly mortgage. It really isn't. 1:36:08.960 --> 1:36:13.000 Those teeny tiny little tenths of a point is not 1:36:13.120 --> 1:36:15.439 gonna make that. It's gonna be like twenty dollars or 1:36:15.720 --> 1:36:19.840 thirty dollars, maybe maybe fifty bucks. And again, if it 1:36:19.920 --> 1:36:22.240 ever goes to that, it's never gonna get time. I'm 1:36:22.280 --> 1:36:24.200 on a fixed income. I got to get up early 1:36:24.280 --> 1:36:26.479 to go to the doctor, and I'm fifty dollars. 1:36:27.040 --> 1:36:28.320 I might a fixed income. 1:36:29.040 --> 1:36:29.960 Well, I'm glad for you. 1:36:31.920 --> 1:36:33.880 Then you should know what This is a lot of money. 1:36:34.120 --> 1:36:36.639 Okay, But if you're in a fixed income and you've 1:36:36.680 --> 1:36:38.960 been in your home for twenty years, you shouldn't have 1:36:39.080 --> 1:36:41.760 a mortgage payment anyway. You should have had that thing 1:36:41.920 --> 1:36:45.840 paid off. You shouldn't have refinanced and borrowed the money 1:36:45.920 --> 1:36:47.880 against yourself a million times. 1:36:47.960 --> 1:36:49.719 Oh Jesus, sounds like my mom. 1:36:49.640 --> 1:36:56.479 No kidding, at eight thirty sounded like your mom, all right? Anyway, 1:36:56.840 --> 1:36:59.200 My wife Michelle Sloan here, not my mother in law, 1:36:59.280 --> 1:37:02.080 my wife Michelle's long on the show und wwill real 1:37:02.120 --> 1:37:05.080 estate check up, right, So we're getting rate cuts. But 1:37:05.320 --> 1:37:06.800 you know, here's the thing. You go, well, maybe I 1:37:06.840 --> 1:37:08.240 want to wait till little see if it gets down 1:37:08.280 --> 1:37:10.080 to five at some point. Now it could be another 1:37:10.280 --> 1:37:11.519 could be a year, could be longer. 1:37:12.360 --> 1:37:14.599 Yeah, now five. See again. 1:37:14.680 --> 1:37:17.599 I think you're pushing that territory that if you want 1:37:17.680 --> 1:37:20.160 to move, if you want to make a move, make 1:37:20.200 --> 1:37:21.080 a freaking move. 1:37:21.280 --> 1:37:21.599 Sorry. 1:37:22.439 --> 1:37:27.479 Yeah, you know, it's it's all about living your life 1:37:27.760 --> 1:37:28.479 in the present. 1:37:28.960 --> 1:37:30.840 So how many things do you have left? 1:37:31.360 --> 1:37:31.920 Exactly? 1:37:32.240 --> 1:37:34.280 That's why I get at six o'clock in the morning 1:37:34.479 --> 1:37:37.479 to get my blood draw I don't know how many 1:37:37.479 --> 1:37:38.360 of these I have left. 1:37:40.479 --> 1:37:42.360 Yeah. So here's the thing. 1:37:42.520 --> 1:37:44.680 If you find a house that works for you and 1:37:44.800 --> 1:37:48.120 you can afford it at the current rate, I'm always 1:37:48.240 --> 1:37:50.920 going to advise you to go ahead and buy that 1:37:51.160 --> 1:37:54.840 home because that home may not come around. That home, 1:37:55.479 --> 1:37:58.240 the particular home that fits your needs, may not come 1:37:58.320 --> 1:38:01.840 around again for a very long time. I've had some 1:38:02.040 --> 1:38:05.479 people that have been looking in certain school districts for 1:38:05.680 --> 1:38:09.760 two years or more because they're looking for the unicorn, 1:38:10.400 --> 1:38:13.600 the needle in the haystack that doesn't come along. It 1:38:13.720 --> 1:38:17.439 may come along, but when you find it, boy, you 1:38:17.560 --> 1:38:20.519 better jump on it because you may not find it 1:38:20.600 --> 1:38:21.080 ever again. 1:38:21.439 --> 1:38:23.080 Also may have to compromise as well. 1:38:23.160 --> 1:38:25.400 And that's something well, that's the one thing, you know, 1:38:25.520 --> 1:38:30.640 you really people. Some people are just unwilling to compromise. 1:38:31.360 --> 1:38:35.759 And if you're unwilling to compromise, then you should build. 1:38:36.600 --> 1:38:40.760 And that's sort of where I will direct you. If 1:38:40.840 --> 1:38:43.400 I'm working with you and we cannot find the right 1:38:43.479 --> 1:38:48.719 house for you in a certain area, a certain school district, 1:38:49.040 --> 1:38:53.439 and you're gonna nitpick every single little tiny thing, Oh 1:38:53.479 --> 1:38:55.840 my gosh, you know there's a there's a tiny hole 1:38:55.920 --> 1:38:59.000 in the wall, or the sink drips, or this is 1:38:59.120 --> 1:39:03.720 old or whatever. You know what if it's a used home, 1:39:03.920 --> 1:39:06.400 if it's a home, it's not brand new, it's not 1:39:06.640 --> 1:39:07.760 going to be brand new. 1:39:07.920 --> 1:39:09.360 You just have to accept that. 1:39:09.560 --> 1:39:13.639 That's one thing. So and then there then if I say. 1:39:13.479 --> 1:39:15.040 If here's one that I you know, we just talked 1:39:15.080 --> 1:39:17.080 about this before, because we sold our house over the summer, 1:39:17.160 --> 1:39:20.040 and you did a great job. You're my favorite realtor 1:39:20.439 --> 1:39:23.439 and you got like got thirteen showings in one day 1:39:23.520 --> 1:39:27.080 and a handful of offers, so that was good. Yeah, 1:39:27.120 --> 1:39:29.000 but some people Again, you know that there's people and 1:39:29.080 --> 1:39:31.439 you have clients like this, and there's certain ethnicities that 1:39:31.520 --> 1:39:33.080 do this that the door has to be facing the 1:39:33.160 --> 1:39:35.840 right way. There's feng shuai, there's I don't know whether 1:39:35.840 --> 1:39:38.519 these super you know, rituals and all cultures have that. 1:39:38.680 --> 1:39:40.960 But you're like, you know, you've been looking for a 1:39:41.000 --> 1:39:43.040 house for two years. This is what perfectly except the 1:39:43.080 --> 1:39:45.800 doors facing the wrong way, like, and you want to 1:39:45.800 --> 1:39:47.400 get in the mason where the schools are really good 1:39:47.400 --> 1:39:49.320 because you have young kids. I mean, by the time 1:39:49.439 --> 1:39:51.400 you get that and what you want, everyone's fighting for 1:39:51.479 --> 1:39:53.280 that where the door is facing the right way. Your 1:39:53.360 --> 1:39:56.400 kids are going to be thirty, So you know, are 1:39:56.479 --> 1:39:58.600 you you know what I mean, It's like you got 1:39:58.720 --> 1:40:01.519 to pull the trigger at some point or you just keep. 1:40:01.400 --> 1:40:04.599 Renting, you know, if you're renting, If you keep renting, 1:40:04.800 --> 1:40:09.240 and you know, we have I've had situations certainly I'd 1:40:09.320 --> 1:40:11.240 like to buy a house, Okay, how much do you 1:40:11.280 --> 1:40:11.760 want to spend? 1:40:11.840 --> 1:40:14.439 How much are you able to spend? That kind of thing, and. 1:40:16.000 --> 1:40:19.280 The numbers don't add up, and so there's there's a 1:40:19.360 --> 1:40:22.519 combination of things. That's why when you hire a realtor, 1:40:22.600 --> 1:40:24.760 which is what you are doing. You are hiring a 1:40:24.840 --> 1:40:27.679 realtor to work with you. And the people that think 1:40:27.840 --> 1:40:32.200 they can just use realtors like I don't know, toilet paper, 1:40:33.600 --> 1:40:36.040 use them for a second and then throw them away 1:40:37.400 --> 1:40:41.400 not the best way, because you want to have a 1:40:41.520 --> 1:40:45.599 realtor who's going to work for you, with you together 1:40:46.280 --> 1:40:48.960 to come up with the solution to what you're looking for. 1:40:49.760 --> 1:40:54.360 And having and hiring an agent is very important part 1:40:54.400 --> 1:40:57.760 of the process. There's a thousand there's actually thousands of 1:40:57.880 --> 1:41:02.439 us out there, and so choosing the one that fits 1:41:02.880 --> 1:41:06.880 your personality, who is available when you need them, and 1:41:07.320 --> 1:41:10.600 is open and honest and trustworthy. That's the kind of 1:41:10.680 --> 1:41:13.560 agent that you want on your side every step of 1:41:13.600 --> 1:41:13.880 the way. 1:41:14.080 --> 1:41:17.120 Yeah, my wife, Michelle Sloan is that agent. 1:41:18.040 --> 1:41:18.360 All right. 1:41:18.439 --> 1:41:19.920 So we're getting to that time of year, the some 1:41:20.040 --> 1:41:22.080 pump starting to check out. We've talked about this before. 1:41:22.200 --> 1:41:23.760 Make sure you check your some pump. That's something I 1:41:23.800 --> 1:41:26.439 want to stress is you know, if that things, if 1:41:26.439 --> 1:41:28.000 you're getting all this rain, it's not turning on, you 1:41:28.040 --> 1:41:29.600 got to go down there and check it maybe and 1:41:29.640 --> 1:41:31.479 hopefully you have you know, battery backup if you need it, 1:41:31.520 --> 1:41:33.880 if you have a lot of that, because especially if 1:41:33.880 --> 1:41:36.439 you have a finished basement. If not, you got an 1:41:36.479 --> 1:41:38.840 indoor swimming pool, don't worry about it. Make sure the 1:41:38.880 --> 1:41:40.760 some pump's working. How you test that simply as get 1:41:40.800 --> 1:41:42.479 a bucket of water and keep dumping it in there 1:41:42.560 --> 1:41:44.840 until the float valve comes up, and then or you 1:41:44.920 --> 1:41:46.400 can put a little bit of water in there and 1:41:46.600 --> 1:41:48.920 lift the little ball up of kind of like a toilet, 1:41:49.280 --> 1:41:51.800 and it should engage and get all that water. If not, 1:41:51.880 --> 1:41:53.880 you got to get a plumber over there and take 1:41:53.920 --> 1:41:56.200 a look at that. Also, this is the weekend with 1:41:56.240 --> 1:41:59.080 the time change. Got to mention the smoke detectors. And 1:41:59.240 --> 1:42:01.479 also I'll throw this in there too, because you can 1:42:01.520 --> 1:42:03.840 buy them with a combined thing, and you know people 1:42:03.920 --> 1:42:06.000 have habits and while I don't need all that, get 1:42:06.040 --> 1:42:08.559 the carbon monoxide detector. So many people die from carbon 1:42:08.600 --> 1:42:11.080 monoxide poison, especially this time of year. Furnace kicks on. 1:42:11.200 --> 1:42:14.320 Maybe you know there's insects or a bird built a nest, 1:42:14.439 --> 1:42:16.800 or a bat diet or something, all sorts of stuff 1:42:17.000 --> 1:42:19.000 in that chimney or and that flu in the vent. 1:42:19.760 --> 1:42:21.680 If it's blocked, it's gonna you know, it could kill 1:42:21.760 --> 1:42:23.759 you and your family. So you can get a carbon 1:42:23.800 --> 1:42:27.200 monoxide detector for like less than twenty bucks. You know, 1:42:27.320 --> 1:42:29.479 put put it in and where they recommend it in 1:42:29.520 --> 1:42:32.240 your house depending on can't get the details of exactly where, 1:42:32.360 --> 1:42:34.800 not knowing what your house looks like, but you know 1:42:36.040 --> 1:42:37.240 an inspector. 1:42:36.800 --> 1:42:39.200 Will be looking for that. You know that over the years, 1:42:40.439 --> 1:42:44.360 the it's changed and you only had to have one 1:42:44.840 --> 1:42:48.000 outside of the bedroom. Now you're you're looking at wanting 1:42:48.040 --> 1:42:51.599 to have a smoke detector in every single bedroom, right 1:42:51.840 --> 1:42:55.800 so you know while things change, yeah, you don't. 1:42:56.240 --> 1:42:58.639 That's the thing. You have to just be aware because 1:42:58.920 --> 1:42:59.760 safety first, yeap. 1:43:00.040 --> 1:43:01.720 If you first hit that, check your batteries, if you 1:43:01.720 --> 1:43:03.639 still have the old fashioned smoke if those detectors still 1:43:03.680 --> 1:43:05.080 have the batteries, because now they sell one in the 1:43:05.080 --> 1:43:08.040 battery lasts like ten years. But even the higher the 1:43:09.400 --> 1:43:12.640 wired ones that are daisy chained. You know, if you 1:43:12.760 --> 1:43:15.040 can't tell when that smoke detector is that they won't 1:43:15.120 --> 1:43:17.639 last forever. So you've got about ten years. You should 1:43:17.680 --> 1:43:20.040 really consider replacing them because you'll get some false positives 1:43:20.080 --> 1:43:21.840 like we have something that are older and you know, 1:43:21.880 --> 1:43:23.200 when you cook, they go off. So I got to 1:43:23.280 --> 1:43:25.479 change os and I'll put some newer carbon monoxide ones in. 1:43:25.960 --> 1:43:27.400 How do you adjest that? Do I like put a 1:43:27.479 --> 1:43:28.200 lighter up to it? 1:43:28.280 --> 1:43:30.719 Oh? You simply well, no, you need just a little 1:43:30.720 --> 1:43:33.360 smoke from a candle would do it. But you know, 1:43:33.520 --> 1:43:36.360 typically ten years because dust collects on the sensors and 1:43:36.439 --> 1:43:38.360 that and and you know you just want to make 1:43:38.400 --> 1:43:41.639 sure God forbid you need it at work. So they're 1:43:41.680 --> 1:43:43.240 really you think about it, Well, all the stuff he 1:43:43.240 --> 1:43:45.280 spent our Hou, it's not that expensive. If they're more 1:43:45.280 --> 1:43:47.519 than ten years older, should consider getting some new ones anyway, 1:43:48.400 --> 1:43:51.959 just the PSA there for some safety, for some remodeling 1:43:52.000 --> 1:43:55.080 safety from me. 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