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Speaker 1: This is a podcast from wo R Back Now to

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Speaker 1: the wr Saturday Morning Show with Larry Minty. Welcome Back.

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Speaker 1: Matt Rooney is a political activist, attorney, and founder of

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Speaker 1: the website savenew Jersey dot com, and he says Republican

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Speaker 1: Canada Jack Chittarelli has a real chance of becoming the

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Speaker 1: next governor of New Jersey Tuesday Night, Matt, I'm so

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Speaker 1: glad you could find the time for us, because we've

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Speaker 1: tried several times to get you on the air, and

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Speaker 1: you're in such demand you've always had to turn us down.

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Speaker 2: Well, Larry, I appreciate all the invites. It's awesome to

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Speaker 2: be with you, and you know that as much as

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Speaker 2: I love you, I'm not gonna say no to's on.

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Speaker 1: I don't either. So we're we are in the We're

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Speaker 1: in the exact same boat. Tell us about this race.

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Speaker 1: It does seem and you tell me if I'm wrong.

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Speaker 1: It seems like all of the energy is with Jack Chittarelli.

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Speaker 2: No, you're You're not wrong at all. You don't bring

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Speaker 2: Barack Obama into Newark, despite the former president's very spotty

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Speaker 2: record at being a GOTV cheerleader. Unless you're panicking and

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Speaker 2: let's be clear exactly why Mikey's having a problem. Mikey

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Speaker 2: Cheryl's having a problem because many of those same voters,

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Speaker 2: a lot of them non white voters, who crossed over

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Speaker 2: to vote for President Trump last year made it the

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Speaker 2: closest presidential election in New Jersey since nineteen ninety two.

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Speaker 2: They're still interested, they're curious about the Republican Party, and

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Speaker 2: many of them are supporting Jack Cuenderelli this year. Poll

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Speaker 2: after poll Larry whether they've got it tied, we're Jack

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Speaker 2: down by a few points. They all show Jack getting

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Speaker 2: twenty one percent of the black vote in New Jersey.

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Speaker 2: If this movie seems like one you've seen before, folks,

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Speaker 2: it's because you have. It's called twenty twenty four. So

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Speaker 2: she's in trouble. She knows it. We're clear eyed about

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Speaker 2: the fact that there are still eight hundred and fifty

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Speaker 2: thousand more registered Democrats Larry New Jersey than Republicans. It

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Speaker 2: was close to even I think we'd be talking about

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Speaker 2: Jack Chitarelli landslide. But this thing is infinitely winnable for

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Speaker 2: the Republican candidate. If the GOP has a big election day,

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Speaker 2: that's always the gift.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you say extremely winnable. As I look at the

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Speaker 1: early voting, and you study the early voting, and I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about not only people that are showing up to

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Speaker 1: the polls, but people that have mailed in Ballance, I

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Speaker 1: think it bodes well for Jack Chittarelli. This may you know.

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Speaker 1: I've all along, I've been saying we're not going to

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Speaker 1: know that night. I may have changed my mind. We

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Speaker 1: may know that night. I think he might win by

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Speaker 1: two or three points.

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Speaker 2: That would not surprise me at all. I keep telling everyone.

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Speaker 2: If Republicans stay home, they don't show up, and Mikey

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Speaker 2: wins by three or four points, that will not shock me.

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Speaker 2: If Republicans show up and Jack wins by two, I

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Speaker 2: will not be surprised because look, at the end of

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Speaker 2: the day, Jack Chittarelli has the energy. I think one

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Speaker 2: very interesting finding Larry in one of the polls. I

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Speaker 2: think it was the Quantity Insight Survey the head within

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Speaker 2: the margin of error, they ask people not who you're

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Speaker 2: voting for, but who do you think your neighbors and

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Speaker 2: family and folks in your community are supporting the governor?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Jack won by six points.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: So again again that's twenty sixteen, right all over again.

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Speaker 2: It's New Jersey, it's a blue state. There's a lot

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Speaker 2: of social pressure to not support someone who has perceived

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Speaker 2: as maga in certain circles. But at the end of

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Speaker 2: the day, I think people recognize there is a need

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Speaker 2: for change. The definition of insanity is doing the same

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Speaker 2: thing over and over again. Right, And Mikey Cheryl is

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Speaker 2: basically Phil Murphy with better teeth. All right, I'll give

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Speaker 2: her that, But I think somehow less said hair better, hair,

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Speaker 2: better hair, right, which is a low bar in this

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Speaker 2: in this case, Larry, But you know, why would we

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Speaker 2: want to repeat of the past eight years? They have

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Speaker 2: not gone Well. The only thing we've succeeded in doing

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Speaker 2: in over the past eight years under Phil Murphy is

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Speaker 2: boosting the Florida economy by sending all of our retirees

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Speaker 2: and everyone that can afford to relocate down to the

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Speaker 2: Sunshine State.

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Speaker 1: Well, we're gonna have that happening. We had somebody call

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Speaker 1: in a little while ago that had a great line.

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Speaker 1: He said, is you haul sponsoring the campaign of Zurin Mom, Donnie.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have the same thing happening in New York

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Speaker 1: over the next four years because it looks like Mom

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Speaker 1: Donnie is going to take this. I know you concentrate

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Speaker 1: on New Jersey, but how can you not pay attention

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Speaker 1: to the race in New York City? What do you think?

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Speaker 2: Sure? Yeah, look, I mean it's sad in a way.

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Speaker 2: That's my initial reaction, not just because Mom Donnie is

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Speaker 2: a nut and I think he's gonna take New York

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Speaker 2: back to the old days, the bad old days of

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Speaker 2: the seventies that inspired Batman nineteen eighty nine, which is

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Speaker 2: a great movie Jack Nicholson and Michael Keaton, Right, but

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Speaker 2: it was it's not a place where you'd want to live, right.

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Speaker 2: You don't want to live in a Batman movie. You

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Speaker 2: want to you want to watch one. But selfishly, I

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Speaker 2: got to say this to all the New Yorkers that

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Speaker 2: are listening to this. You got to make the choice

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Speaker 2: that you got to make. I suppose it's a free

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Speaker 2: country while we can keep it. But if Jacktionarelli wins

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Speaker 2: and we have a mayor Mom Donnie coming up here shortly,

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Speaker 2: I think it's going to be great for my New

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Speaker 2: Jersey real estate values, because, as you've indicated, Larry, I

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Speaker 2: think people are gonna stream out of the city. They're

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Speaker 2: gonna move here. There's going to be a boom. And

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Speaker 2: my only hope is that the lefties who decide to

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Speaker 2: leave because they don't want to live with the consequences

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Speaker 2: of what they voted for, don't repeat the same mistakes

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Speaker 2: that leftist made, for example, when they fled California for Colorado.

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Speaker 2: You got to change your voting patterns. New Jersey finally

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Speaker 2: moving in the right direction. We don't want to go

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Speaker 2: backwards because you don't want to live with this. Your

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Speaker 2: mom Donnie right.

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Speaker 1: And I think Mom Donnie is going to make certain

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Speaker 1: that nobody like him ever runs again in New York

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Speaker 1: City because you know he can't do anything that he's promising.

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Speaker 1: It was great to talk to you when you find

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Speaker 1: the time. Would love to have you back. I know

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Speaker 1: you've got a busy schedule, but try to mark us

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Speaker 1: down for somewhere on that, would you please?

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Speaker 2: Oh anytime. I love being with you. I'm sorry my

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Speaker 2: voice is starting to go. I know you know how

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Speaker 2: that works. Oh yeah, but I'm just gonna say real quick,

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Speaker 2: if you'll allow it, just folks, don't let them do

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Speaker 2: to you what they do every cycle. You're gonna get

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Speaker 2: some voter suppression polls. They're going to tell you that

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Speaker 2: it's already over. You've seen this movie before, Go vote,

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Speaker 2: Bring a bunch of people with you. We can win

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Speaker 2: this one, We really can. We can save New Jersey.

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Speaker 1: Matt Rudy, the founder of the website savenew Jersey dot com.

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