Speaker 1: This is America's Trucking Network with Kevin Gordon.
Speaker 2: Welcome board, Thanks for tuning in on this final day
Speaker 2: of October. Happy Halloween to each and every one of you. Tonight,
Speaker 2: in a lot of places, the trick or treaters are
Speaker 2: going to be out there, and so let's be careful
Speaker 2: out there because these kids on Halloween, they're more interested
Speaker 2: in getting the candy than paying attention to traffic. And
Speaker 2: so if you're in a particular neighborhood, be aware the
Speaker 2: kids may be darting out in traffic. And let's have
Speaker 2: a very safe Halloween and trick or treat. What is
Speaker 2: really scary, especially as far as the Halloween Melissa, the
Speaker 2: hurricane Melissa is still wreaking havoc down on the Caribbean.
Speaker 2: Looking at some of the pictures from Jamaica and the
Speaker 2: film reports of people being able to get in there
Speaker 2: and the absolute devastation radible down there, and it's going
Speaker 2: to be a long time till they recover. Currently, Melissa
Speaker 2: is over Bermuda, and of course we'll get more information
Speaker 2: on that as it passes. But what we're also seeing
Speaker 2: is that on the in the upper Northeastern area, we're
Speaker 2: getting on a lot of rain and it's an unusual
Speaker 2: strug Well, actually it's the outlying area of the storm
Speaker 2: from Melissa, because normally the weather, if you know, we
Speaker 2: get weather from the north and northwest, west and northwest,
Speaker 2: i should say, and this storm is actually coming from
Speaker 2: the northeast and the east, which is unusual. And so
Speaker 2: they're getting an awful lot of rain in the northeastern
Speaker 2: and along the coast of the Atlantic coast. So if
Speaker 2: you're in the area there, be aware that the that
Speaker 2: the weather is going to be very rainy and windy,
Speaker 2: and be careful out there.
Speaker 3: Again, getting home is job one.
Speaker 2: So if you see any conditions that are different than
Speaker 2: what is being told about or talked about on your
Speaker 2: weather app or weathermen or whatever you're listening, to make
Speaker 2: sure you let the people behind you know if you're
Speaker 2: encountering something that's unusual, and hopefully the people in front
Speaker 2: of you will let you know. Because there's an awful
Speaker 2: lot of wind and a lawful lot of rain. Now
Speaker 2: they're talking about in certain areas that they're experiencing fifty
Speaker 2: sixty mile an hour winds now. Once you get up
Speaker 2: above fifty five miles an hour, that is technically hurricane conditioned,
Speaker 2: so they are still even though they're on the outside
Speaker 2: area of the cone of where this storm is going,
Speaker 2: because Melissa currently on its track is heading north east
Speaker 2: away from the coast of the United States and Canada.
Speaker 2: But the outlying storms as a result of that is
Speaker 2: what's causing a lot of wind and rain. So technically
Speaker 2: they're not in a hurricane area there, but the winds
Speaker 2: are awfully high. We did see and we mentioned yesterday
Speaker 2: that there's been I think up to now five structures
Speaker 2: on the west on the Cape Hatteras in that area
Speaker 2: buck Buck what is it, Buxton, South Carolina, where these
Speaker 2: houses are built near the beach and on the beach basically,
Speaker 2: and they're on these stilts, which is supposed to take
Speaker 2: care of any of the waves and also the high tides,
Speaker 2: low tides and so on. But with these winds coming
Speaker 2: in and the waves hitting this, it's knocked out those
Speaker 2: stilts and these houses have collapsed. So it's up to
Speaker 2: five now currently. We had twelve structures that were destroyed
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago, so now up to about
Speaker 2: seventeen structures that have been destroyed. So be careful out
Speaker 2: there and make sure you get home safe and make
Speaker 2: sure that, as I said, getting home is job one.
Speaker 2: President Trump wrapped up his week long visit. I guess
Speaker 2: Asia trip is what they're week long Asia trip, I
Speaker 2: should say. And if you see what happens, if you
Speaker 2: look at what happened, it was absolutely amazing and a
Speaker 2: tremendous success. Of course, the spoon fed regurgitators in the
Speaker 2: mainstream media aren't going to talk about it very much
Speaker 2: or talk about it in very high praise. But if
Speaker 2: you looked at the pomp and circumstance that he was
Speaker 2: welcomed in Malaysia, in Japan, in South Korea, how they
Speaker 2: rolled out the red carpet for him. When you see
Speaker 2: the way that the new prime minister from Japan, and
Speaker 2: I know I'm going to butcher her name, but I'm
Speaker 2: going to give it a shot.
Speaker 3: Here.
Speaker 2: The Prime Minister, SHANEI. Takiyachi is her name.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: Not only was she exuberant being on stage with President
Speaker 2: Trump during his visit when he was speaking in front
Speaker 2: of the troops, but she has also recommended him, along
Speaker 2: with some of these other countries, have recommended him for
Speaker 2: the Nobel Peace Prize for the peace that he's brought
Speaker 2: around the world and across the world. So there's up
Speaker 2: to several different countries now that have written letters nominating
Speaker 2: him for the Nobel Peace Prize. Just kind of a
Speaker 2: rundown quickly, is what's going on. But of course USA
Speaker 2: Today and the spoonfeeder regurgitators of the mainstream media, they'll
Speaker 2: deal with. The headline says trade deals, pageantry and nuke's
Speaker 2: seven takeaways from Trump's Trump's trip to Asia in their
Speaker 2: sub headline, Trump's week long trip to Malaysia, Japan and
Speaker 2: South Korea showcase the pageantry of foreign affairs against the
Speaker 2: backdrop of government shutdown at home that threaten to become
Speaker 2: the longest heir ever. And of course they don't mention
Speaker 2: that it's the Schumer shutdown. They don't mention that it's
Speaker 2: the Democrats holding this up. There is a recording of
Speaker 2: one of the Democratic senators talking about that, yes, people
Speaker 2: are going to be feeling pain, but this is the
Speaker 2: only levers we have and the only control that we
Speaker 2: have in Congress and in the Senate. So yes, all
Speaker 2: they have to do again what they did back in March.
Speaker 2: They signed this continuing resolution that kept things going, kept
Speaker 2: the government open until they negotiated some of the other
Speaker 2: deals and so on. But what they're holding out for now,
Speaker 2: there's this clean resolution that's there.
Speaker 3: Been sitting on the table.
Speaker 2: They have voted on it thirteen times, the Democrats have
Speaker 2: voted against it thirteen times, and they are still shutting
Speaker 2: down the government. And what they're holding out for is
Speaker 2: one point five trillion dollars in additional spending above and
Speaker 2: beyond what this clean resolution is.
Speaker 3: And that's not the way you do things in Washington.
Speaker 2: And they are going to pay a tremendous price for
Speaker 2: this because people are not buying into the crap that
Speaker 2: they are pushing. And some of the polls are indicating
Speaker 2: that even though the spoon fed regurgitators in the mainstream
Speaker 2: media are saying one thing, the people that are being
Speaker 2: pulled realize something completely different and having a different reaction
Speaker 2: than what they would hope them to have. Trump reduced
Speaker 2: a China tariffs that he met with the jijingping there
Speaker 2: in South Korea and they did hammer out certain agreements.
Speaker 2: There's going to be a lowering of teriffs in exchange
Speaker 2: for China purchasing agriculture and electronics trade. Trump has lowered
Speaker 2: South Korea tariffs in exchange for US investment. Trump also announced,
Speaker 2: Now in this story, they said, announce the resumption of
Speaker 2: nuclear weapons testing, and they go into this whole scenario
Speaker 2: talking about how this is an aggressive on Trump's part
Speaker 2: and that this is kind of adding to the arms race.
Speaker 3: However, what they failed to.
Speaker 2: Mention is the fact that Vladimir Putin has decided that
Speaker 2: he is going to up the ante a little bit.
Speaker 2: And again is Phil Flynn points out in his Energy Report,
Speaker 2: Russian President Vladimir Putin made a mistake by unintentionally starting
Speaker 2: a new arms race.
Speaker 3: US afree tested.
Speaker 2: A new nuclear capable, nuclear powered, long range remote torpedo
Speaker 2: that he claimed was experts have dubbed the doomsday machine. Now,
Speaker 2: with him doing that, Trump is indicated that he's going
Speaker 2: to balance that off and renew nuclear testing on the
Speaker 2: part of the US because we have the largest and
Speaker 2: he's been very reluctant to do any testing as far
Speaker 2: as nuclear weapons and trying to promote peace and actually
Speaker 2: reduce the number of nuclear weapons. But if Russia is
Speaker 2: going to amp this up, of course we're going to
Speaker 2: amp it up. Also coming up, we're going to be
Speaker 2: talking to Louis Pugh. I want to mention that real quick.
Speaker 2: We're going to be talking about, of course, Louis Pugh,
Speaker 2: executive vice president of oh IDA Owner Operator Independent Drivers Association.
Speaker 2: We're going to be talking about a couple of pieces
Speaker 2: of legislation pending before Congress, the Non Domicile CDLs and
Speaker 2: English Language proficiency.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of things.
Speaker 2: Going on in this and one, you know, I don't
Speaker 2: know how long the interview is gonna go, but we're
Speaker 2: going to go as long as we can because there's
Speaker 2: a lot of issues here and a lot of things
Speaker 2: that's not getting accurately reported in the media. But we'll
Speaker 2: get to all that coming up. I'm Kevin Gordon, America's
Speaker 2: Trucking Network, seven hundred WLW.
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Speaker 5: The Infinity Series Champion will be crowned Saturday night in Phoenix.
Speaker 5: Connors Zilich, Carson Gwaffle, also Justin Algeyer and Jesse Love
Speaker 5: are in the Ecinity Final four. Danny Hamlin, who will
Speaker 5: run for the Cup Series twenty twenty five titles Sunday
Speaker 5: on Dirty Wild media on his pick for the Exfinity champ.
Speaker 6: The seven car last year was very, very dominant. You
Speaker 6: gotta think he's going to be pretty tough again, But
Speaker 6: you also got the eighty eight.
Speaker 3: I think it's still going to be a close one.
Speaker 6: Justin's experience at Phoenix will counter whatever success the eighty
Speaker 6: eight has had throughout the season, and so I think
Speaker 6: that's going to be a one A one B type
Speaker 6: of race, and then Jesse will be right there near them,
Speaker 6: and then Carson is going to need to find some speed.
Speaker 6: Who's your pick? Then I'll give the nod to Justin.
Speaker 6: His car is going to be just as prepared as
Speaker 6: the eighty eight. He's not going to get beat on equipment.
Speaker 3: Remember last year all the mistakes he had and to
Speaker 3: still come backing. Yeah, they're lightning fast. Justin's my pick.
Speaker 5: Sam Meyer has been suspended by NASCAR from Saturday's Exfinity
Speaker 5: Series race at Phoenix after wrecking Jeb Burton on the
Speaker 5: cool down lap last weekend at Martinsville. Colleague Racing will
Speaker 5: pause its Exfinity Series program for the twenty twenty sixth season.
Speaker 5: Since debuting in the series full time in twenty sixteen,
Speaker 5: colleague has won twenty seven races and ten seasons, including
Speaker 5: a pair of regular season championships from aj Allmendinger in
Speaker 5: twenty twenty one and twenty two.
Speaker 1: This is the racing report on America's Trucking Network on
Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW, Say Dennis the reporting.
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Speaker 2: I'm Kevin Gordon, America's Trucking Network, seven hundred WLW. I
Speaker 2: want to welcome back to the friend of the show. Been
Speaker 2: on this show a couple of times, a good friend
Speaker 2: of the show. Louis Pugh, Executive vice president oh IDA,
Speaker 2: owner Operator, Independent Drivers Association.
Speaker 3: Louis, how are you welcome back to the program.
Speaker 7: Hey, it's good to be on your program. It's good
Speaker 7: to be back on here again.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, It's always a pleasure having you.
Speaker 2: There's been a lot of things that have happened since
Speaker 2: the last time we talked. One of the issues we
Speaker 2: talked about back then was the English language proficiency issue,
Speaker 2: and that has really come into the forefront now. But
Speaker 2: also one of the things that has also crept up
Speaker 2: as this non domicile worker. So I think non domicile CDLs.
Speaker 2: So let's begin with that and kind of give us
Speaker 2: a background on this and what's going on. I understand
Speaker 2: there's a couple of bills before Congress, one on the
Speaker 2: ELP and the other one on non domicille CDLs, so
Speaker 2: kind of bring us up to speed on all that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, it's you're right.
Speaker 8: There's been a lot of talk, especially this year with
Speaker 8: the English science proficiency in the non domicile. The non
Speaker 8: domicile stuff started back in twenty six.
Speaker 7: Or twenty nineteen. I think they were ata of course
Speaker 7: at petition.
Speaker 8: Wanting that, and that was mainly it was designed to
Speaker 8: allow people from out from one state to go to
Speaker 8: another state to get their CDO. And what happened though,
Speaker 8: is the way it worked out, it opened up the
Speaker 8: floodgates to where people from other countries could come get
Speaker 8: their CDO.
Speaker 7: And that's what we've been seeing happen.
Speaker 8: Is all these people from all over the place are
Speaker 8: common and then unfortunately states some some states, I should say,
Speaker 8: they just sort of opened the door let anybody.
Speaker 7: They don't even know who they're giving.
Speaker 8: Them to it seems like. And so fortunately the Trump
Speaker 8: administration and dot has listened to us because we have
Speaker 8: been yelling and complaining about this for a while now
Speaker 8: and they finally started paying attention and and they've done somethings.
Speaker 8: Secretary Duffy came out with that internal Final intern intern
Speaker 8: Final rule that came out on these non domicile CEOs
Speaker 8: to where they had to stop ascatonin states to stop
Speaker 8: issuing them.
Speaker 7: And then so we've had that happen. We've also had
Speaker 7: the English language go into the out of service thanks
Speaker 7: to this. There's been a lot of stuff.
Speaker 2: Done now as far as the non domicild is concerned. Okay,
Speaker 2: non domicilde you mentioned had to do with trying to
Speaker 2: get you know, people what Ohio, somebody in Ohio being
Speaker 2: able to Indiana and so on, and then they open
Speaker 2: this floodgates to people coming from outside the United States.
Speaker 3: Do I have that correct?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 8: That's what it was designed for, your correct, was to
Speaker 8: allow people within the United States to or you know,
Speaker 8: from one state or another. That's what they're wanting it for.
Speaker 7: And you know, of course courting, it's that thing about
Speaker 7: all this.
Speaker 8: This all goes back to this bullshit driver shortage narrative
Speaker 8: that we continually have had to fight against, the pushback against,
Speaker 8: because for years and years, you know, for forty years,
Speaker 8: Big Trucking, American Trucking serisays and continues to say, we
Speaker 8: have a driver shortage.
Speaker 7: We've never had a driver shortage. But it's all to
Speaker 7: keep wages low. And this was just one more regulation
Speaker 7: that they were able to.
Speaker 8: Get put out there at it's non domicile in the.
Speaker 7: Name of driver shortage.
Speaker 2: Now we do air this show after midnight, and we
Speaker 2: are in that comfort zone where you can use certain
Speaker 2: colorful language, but we prefer not to use the wholt
Speaker 2: bs if you know what I mean. Yes, full excrement
Speaker 2: there we go.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Mean, and it makes it kind of more comes into focus.
Speaker 2: You know, you had these HB one or H one
Speaker 2: B visas where people were allowed to come into the
Speaker 2: country if you did not have a particular if somebody
Speaker 2: had a particular skill that wasn't able to be done
Speaker 2: by a domestic a Native American or not a Native American,
Speaker 2: but a person that is a US citizen. And then
Speaker 2: they expanded that to consulting firms and they abuse the
Speaker 2: heck out of the system. I guess this is another
Speaker 2: leg up of that. And then, as you said, the
Speaker 2: American Trucking Association's claiming that there was a driver shortage
Speaker 2: when in fact there wasn't and got this ram rodded
Speaker 2: through and in effect, just to repeat for everybody, this
Speaker 2: has pushed down wages because if you've got a flood
Speaker 2: of people, people that will work for a lot less
Speaker 2: because they're really not a citizen in the United States,
Speaker 2: that would then press down or pull down the wages themselves.
Speaker 8: Correct, Yeah, correct, I mean trucking salaries for truck drivers
Speaker 8: have not kept up with inflation since the nineteen seventies,
Speaker 8: and when you have a shortage of something, prices go up.
Speaker 7: So if we had a trucking or driver.
Speaker 8: Shortage, driver's salaries and wages would be off the charts,
Speaker 8: But we don't because we keep litigating, you know, from
Speaker 8: this driver shortage narrative was what we've done for forty years,
Speaker 8: and that's why we're in this mess that we're in. Well,
Speaker 8: we have a shortage of is pay and training and parking.
Speaker 8: Those are three things we have a shortage of. And
Speaker 8: you know, we're in the longest recession in trucking history.
Speaker 8: Why because we have too much capacity, too much capacity
Speaker 8: of too many truckers and too many trucks. That's why
Speaker 8: the rates aren't coming back. And you know, the big
Speaker 8: carriers and folks say they have a business model using
Speaker 8: very cheap salary and cheap way is and the only
Speaker 8: way they can do that, as my boss said, Todd Spencer,
Speaker 8: our long time our president said, when the job sucks,
Speaker 8: you got to find more suckers. And unfortunately that's what
Speaker 8: they're trying to do. That's why we see this push
Speaker 8: for one hundred and twenty one drivers, this push for
Speaker 8: these non domiciles.
Speaker 7: All this stuff is for cheap labor.
Speaker 2: Now, as far as a non domicilet is concerned, if
Speaker 2: somebody is here legally I guess through a green card
Speaker 2: or whatever, and they have a work permit, that would
Speaker 2: not prevent them from getting a CDO license.
Speaker 9: Correct, well, yes and no kind of now right now,
Speaker 9: it's the way the rule has been written.
Speaker 8: You are correct. You could be here, you have to
Speaker 8: be here. You can have an HP t V srawone,
Speaker 8: but you have to go through all this stuff to
Speaker 8: get that things properly.
Speaker 7: F and CSA stepped in put.
Speaker 8: This IFR out to where this has to be. So really,
Speaker 8: what it's going to amount to is a few agricultural
Speaker 8: workers out here and very few from are going to
Speaker 8: you know, could possibly get CDLs the hall stuff from
Speaker 8: field to farm or something like that.
Speaker 7: From the research we've seen the.
Speaker 8: Carve out that's in this if R that Trump and
Speaker 8: Duffy put in the amount of.
Speaker 7: There's only been six thousand of the.
Speaker 8: CDOs put out to those kind of people.
Speaker 9: Since two thousand and nine till now, so that's hardly anybody,
Speaker 9: right exactly, I've heard of anyone, but what we've been
Speaker 9: saying Louis Pugh, by the way, we're speaking with Louis Pugh,
Speaker 9: executive vice president of Oheida.
Speaker 2: What we've seen though is that some of these people
Speaker 2: that are that have these work visas, they will expire
Speaker 2: and within like say they're at the point where they're
Speaker 2: going to expire with say within a year, they will
Speaker 2: get a CD license that is good for how long?
Speaker 2: Is it good for four years? Is it have to
Speaker 2: be renewed every year? How how often does and two?
Speaker 8: Until this i f R came out in September, you're
Speaker 8: right there with the cdo may last longer than their
Speaker 8: work visa.
Speaker 3: That's that's why you.
Speaker 2: Don't have so technically want to see, so technically once
Speaker 2: their visa runs out, they should not be permitted to
Speaker 2: be driving. They that basically, even though they have a
Speaker 2: cd L, it actually becomes null and void because they
Speaker 2: don't have the permit to work in the country.
Speaker 8: Correct, you are correct, and that's the way it was
Speaker 8: prior to the i f R in September. Okay, but
Speaker 8: there's still probably people that they're running around with these
Speaker 8: because you know, when rules and regulations are passed there
Speaker 8: from that point forward, they're usually not retroactive. So if
Speaker 8: there are some see undone nomoso CDOs out there like this,
Speaker 8: they don't really they're don have to do some checking
Speaker 8: her to go back and get rid of them.
Speaker 7: With the way the law works, whether.
Speaker 8: They can or can, it's kind of a state thing
Speaker 8: since the i f R came out. The way it
Speaker 8: works now and the way it should have been before.
Speaker 8: But the way it will work for now with the
Speaker 8: i f R is that your CDO would be good
Speaker 8: for one year or till the ex visa expires, whichever
Speaker 8: is first.
Speaker 3: And that's part of this legislation.
Speaker 8: Correct, that's part of the I f R and the
Speaker 8: Duffy and Trump put out.
Speaker 7: And now since then, you know, there's some truckers out there.
Speaker 7: I don't think I'm.
Speaker 8: Quite ready to understand it, but because they're getting all mad.
Speaker 8: They were happy with what Trumping Duffy put out. But
Speaker 8: now Congressman Rouser has a bill out there that would
Speaker 8: cod codify this because.
Speaker 7: Right now it's a ruling.
Speaker 2: This a good place for us to take a break,
Speaker 2: because we had to step out and we'll pick this
Speaker 2: up on the other side. Speaking with Louis Pugh, Executive
Speaker 2: vice president o AIDA, owner Operator Independent Drivers Association, I'm
Speaker 2: Kevin Gordon, America's truck in Network seven hundred WLW.
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Speaker 10: Meet the new Ohio congressional map with your twelve thirty report.
Speaker 7: I'm Travis Lair.
Speaker 10: Breaking now, the state's redistricting Commission is set to approve
Speaker 10: a plan that looks almost identical to the one the
Speaker 10: Supreme Court struck down in twenty twenty two for unfairly
Speaker 10: favoring the GOP. Democrats spent months pushing a seven to
Speaker 10: eight map that they said reflected Ohio's recent voting history,
Speaker 10: while Republicans never offered one of their own. Just last week,
Speaker 10: Democrats threatened a referendum if Republicans drew the lines alone.
Speaker 10: Now they're supporting a deal that avoids one, but they
Speaker 10: haven't said why. The map was posted online only after
Speaker 10: the meeting began, leaving the public no time to comment.
Speaker 10: After gears of court fights and promised reforms, the final
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Speaker 11: On the way to Friday morning, we've got clear skies,
Speaker 11: colder morning low of thirty nine. Now as we look
Speaker 11: at the rest of the day on Friday, we're partly
Speaker 11: to mostly sunny, a high of fifty five at night,
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Speaker 11: there's a slight chance of a shower on Sunday. From
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Speaker 10: Hamilton County commissioners have rejected a plan to expand local
Speaker 10: property tax exemptions, saying the move would have cost schools
Speaker 10: and local services more than thirty four million dollars a year.
Speaker 10: The optional tax breaks were authorized under a new state law,
Speaker 10: but would not have been reimbursed by the state. Commissioners
Speaker 10: said the change would have shifted costs away from the
Speaker 10: state and onto counties and school districts. Cincinnati Public Schools
Speaker 10: alone stood to lose about seven and a half million dollars,
Speaker 10: equivalent to dozens of teacher salaries, at a time when
Speaker 10: many districts are already cutting staff to close budget gaps.
Speaker 10: Lee Mawen, let's talk about sports, Buddy seven one hundred WLW.
Speaker 12: Sports Joe Flacco gets in a limited practice Thursday. Bengals
Speaker 12: signed linebacker Joe Gile Harris to the active roster. Also
Speaker 12: defensive tackled McKinley Jackson requests for a trade or his
Speaker 12: release Night hosts the Bears Sunday afternoon one. The Cyclones
Speaker 12: fall to the Indie Fuel two to one. John Jarwarski
Speaker 12: scoring the low goal since Night now two and two
Speaker 12: and traveling to Bloomington Saturday night and the field hockey
Speaker 12: semi final. Thomas Worlington won Mountain Notre Dame zero. Cougar's
Speaker 12: finished the year thirteen and eight.
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Speaker 13: From the rest of the country, and the try suit
Speaker 13: overnight will dry out up your rain. The past two
Speaker 13: days partly cloudy, the load down to thirty nine, mostly
Speaker 13: sunny both Friday and Saturday, highs topound in the upper fifties.
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Speaker 13: heavy rain will be seen over the Northwest on Halloween
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Speaker 2: Seven hundred is wlw IM Kevin Gordon. This is America's
Speaker 2: trucking Network. Continuing our conversation with Louis Pugh, Executive vice
Speaker 2: president o AIDA, Owner Operator Independent Drivers Association. Before the break, Louis,
Speaker 2: we were talking about this IFR Interim final rule. Now,
Speaker 2: this is a mandate or a rule put in by
Speaker 2: the Department of Transportation, and as I understand this, it
Speaker 2: is something that well, all right, this is like an
Speaker 2: executive order at this point. With a new administration, this
Speaker 2: could change or it could be well probably more relaxed
Speaker 2: or whatever. So there is no need by Congress to
Speaker 2: step in here and codify a law that allows us
Speaker 2: to continue beyond any administration, which is right for the
Speaker 2: trucking industry.
Speaker 3: Correct? Do I have that right?
Speaker 7: You are a hundred correct, Gordon.
Speaker 2: Now, Congressman David Rouser introduced this bill.
Speaker 3: Talk about this bill and what it does.
Speaker 8: Yeah, well, and again it's a misinformation out there and
Speaker 8: there's a few cisal media people going crazy and stuff
Speaker 8: like that.
Speaker 2: All that that doesn't happen. Come on, you people on
Speaker 2: social media. They don't lie and misrepresent stuff.
Speaker 3: Come on.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, right, Well anyway says it makes lots of
Speaker 8: people experts, Yes, anyway, but what what what I know?
Speaker 8: What what it does is all the Rouser Bill does
Speaker 8: is it codifies the the i f R that was
Speaker 8: put out by the Trump administration and Duffy, which was
Speaker 8: That's why I find this fascinating because the people who
Speaker 8: are now picking on the Rouser Bill, when this came
Speaker 8: out from.
Speaker 7: DOOT, they were celebrating.
Speaker 8: They were all happy about it. And we need this
Speaker 8: bill to pass.
Speaker 7: I mean, I can't.
Speaker 8: You gotta remind people Congressman Rouser is actually the chair
Speaker 8: of the Highway Transit Subcommittee and the House T and.
Speaker 7: I, so he's the guy.
Speaker 8: That kind of is where trucking bills are gonna He's
Speaker 8: gonna have to check off and it's his bills. So
Speaker 8: this bill is the one that probably stands the best chance.
Speaker 7: Of moving forward.
Speaker 8: But again, his bill does nothing more than make it
Speaker 8: a law, which what the FMCSA and DT made a rule.
Speaker 8: They would make that rule of permanent law and a
Speaker 8: good thing. Like you said, then another administration comes in,
Speaker 8: they just can't roll it back. It would take a
Speaker 8: congression out of Congress to move to change the law.
Speaker 7: I was just get's like the eleds for folks out there.
Speaker 7: We got elds. The only way you ever get rid
Speaker 7: of eods.
Speaker 8: It takes a act of Congress because it was mandated
Speaker 8: by Congress in the first place.
Speaker 2: Okay, we're speaking with Louis Pugh, Executive Vice President ADA.
Speaker 2: Now this is a great point and people need to
Speaker 2: get behind this. So they need I guess once again,
Speaker 2: we got to put the call out to people to
Speaker 2: call their congressmen, their senators and get them on board
Speaker 2: with this because otherwise this, as we saw with all
Speaker 2: so many other pieces of legislation that we've seen over
Speaker 2: the years, it just gets stuck in Congress, gets turned
Speaker 2: in the bin and never gets to the house floor.
Speaker 2: You know, sits on the present, you know, sits in Congress,
Speaker 2: sits in the Senate, never goes forward and so on.
Speaker 2: So I guess the pressure has to come from the people,
Speaker 2: because again with the different accidents that we've seen, the
Speaker 2: fatalities that we've seen, the fact that we don't have
Speaker 2: a driver shortage, which you know, is creating a problem
Speaker 2: as far as depressing the wages, having an overcapacity, and
Speaker 2: having people on the road that necessarily aren't trained properly
Speaker 2: in order to drive this eighty thousand pound vehicle. This
Speaker 2: would basically make our roads safer. And you would think
Speaker 2: that people would be interested in making our roads safer.
Speaker 7: Well, you would think so. I mean, that's the thing
Speaker 7: I tell people. All these bad rules and regulations.
Speaker 8: And all these bad things that's been passed due to drivers. Yes,
Speaker 8: we're paying for this on America's highways. And we've seen
Speaker 8: that tenfold here lately with these accidents where the guy
Speaker 8: made the turn in Florida and then what happened down
Speaker 8: here in California, and.
Speaker 7: You know, and it's just real sad. I mean, that's
Speaker 7: a sad thing. About these folks. They should have never got.
Speaker 8: Behind the wee overtruck in the first place, because they
Speaker 8: should have never gotten through training.
Speaker 2: Right now, we have this two pronged issue that people
Speaker 2: that have been in the news a lot, the English
Speaker 2: language proficiency and this non domiciled worker. And I think,
Speaker 2: in my opinion, it seems that the emphasis should be
Speaker 2: on the non domiciled workers because those probably are the
Speaker 2: people that aren't passing the English proficiency. So if we
Speaker 2: cut that off, then we don't it just kind of
Speaker 2: like a chicken and the egg type of thing. I
Speaker 2: think we need to start with the non domiciled workers
Speaker 2: first and then make sure that we're making sure that
Speaker 2: those English language proficiency, which is which well that was
Speaker 2: already in the law, and that's already been passed by Congress,
Speaker 2: which was ignored from twenty sixteen on.
Speaker 3: Correct.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, unfortunately, I guess you wouldn't say it's ignored.
Speaker 7: It was. There was still a violation, and you're right,
Speaker 7: it has a law English science proficiency.
Speaker 8: We shouldn't even be having to talk about it because
Speaker 8: it should have never been a problem in the first place. Unfortunately,
Speaker 8: there's not strict enough training standards out here, not strict
Speaker 8: enough checks and balances.
Speaker 7: In the training for truckers, and.
Speaker 8: Unfortunately, there's been a lot of less than a rep
Speaker 8: veritable trucking schools that come out here and they training
Speaker 8: these people when they have their third party testers and
Speaker 8: they get them their cdo and they're when they're not
Speaker 8: capable of speaking our language well enough to.
Speaker 7: Drive a truck. And that's what's caused all this. But
Speaker 7: you are correct. From twenty sixteen until till June of.
Speaker 8: Twenty twenty five of this year, they took it out
Speaker 8: of the out of service. It was still a violation,
Speaker 8: and states were still writing the violation.
Speaker 7: But it was just a violation and the trucker could
Speaker 7: go on down the road. A lot of.
Speaker 8: Thankfully and successfully we petitioned CVSA and was successful.
Speaker 7: In that to get this put back.
Speaker 8: Into the out of service under the pretext that they
Speaker 8: can't read the road signs and they can't read the.
Speaker 7: Electric messaging boards.
Speaker 8: Because the reason they got throwed out in the first
Speaker 8: place was they said, well, they can still communicate with
Speaker 8: folks through you know, these translating services or their cell
Speaker 8: phone and stuff like that. Well that's the thing I
Speaker 8: helpe you read a sign or read electric TRUSTe board.
Speaker 3: Oh that's great.
Speaker 2: So we tell the drive public who are driving a
Speaker 2: Mini Coopers or small Sedans or that type of thing,
Speaker 2: no texting and driving. But we can tell somebody that
Speaker 2: can't speak the English language, Oh, just do the app
Speaker 2: on your phone and do the translation that way while
Speaker 2: you're driving an eighty thousand pound vehicle.
Speaker 3: No texting and.
Speaker 8: Driving supposed rather driving.
Speaker 7: But I'm not saying it exactly.
Speaker 2: So it's just, you know, it's one of those things
Speaker 2: where you would think that something in your wildest dreams.
Speaker 2: I don't think you could ever have imagined, Louis Pugh,
Speaker 2: that you would have a necessary for a law that
Speaker 2: says in order to drive on the highway you have
Speaker 2: to be able to read the signs and be proficient
Speaker 2: in the language in order to communicate with people. You
Speaker 2: would think that that is a given, but apparently you
Speaker 2: have to spell this out and then out to fight
Speaker 2: it in a law, which is insanity in my opinion.
Speaker 7: Well, yeah, common sense got checked at.
Speaker 8: The door now, and you're right about that, and I'm
Speaker 8: with you, Gordon.
Speaker 7: You wouldn't think.
Speaker 8: We'd have to do that, This would be this hard
Speaker 8: and you wouldn't think there'd be people against it, You
Speaker 8: wouldn't think there's been people for it. Yeah, but unfortunately
Speaker 8: it's all driven again, a lot of this stuff, most
Speaker 8: of the stuff, it falls back to this whole bull
Speaker 8: crap of a driver shortage narrative. If we wouldn't be
Speaker 8: have been pushing out for the last forty years, we
Speaker 8: probably wouldn't be having a discussion on some of these
Speaker 8: things we're having. I mean, it's pretty common sense to
Speaker 8: me that you should let a truck or use the restroom,
Speaker 8: but unfortunately places don't, so we're having to try to
Speaker 8: get a bill in Congress pass for that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, unbelievable.
Speaker 2: Well, Louis, our time is up here, and gosh, we
Speaker 2: gotta do this more often because there is just so much,
Speaker 2: I mean, there's so much within this to talk about.
Speaker 2: And then also, you know, some of this crazy stuff
Speaker 2: is that we're seeing, as far as this English language
Speaker 2: proficiency and the bill before Congress on that.
Speaker 3: But again, I.
Speaker 2: Appreciate your time, and I appreciate your patience dealing with us,
Speaker 2: and keep up the fight, my friend, because all of
Speaker 2: this stuff is so important, and I don't think people
Speaker 2: appreciate the efforts that oh Ida does, and I would
Speaker 2: encourage everybody to get behind the organization. Get go to
Speaker 2: the website, check out where you can call, because you
Speaker 2: need to be engaged.
Speaker 3: You need to call your congressman. If you want stuff changed.
Speaker 2: You've got to get Congress off this, get them off
Speaker 2: their butts and have them pass this legislation. And the
Speaker 2: only way they do that is that they hear from you, Louis.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. I appreciate your time with us today.
Speaker 7: Thank you God, thanks for having me.
Speaker 8: Thank you all those truckers out there and go to
Speaker 8: Fighting for Truckers dot com and OIDA dot com and join.
Speaker 8: The more members we have, the more grassroots you have,
Speaker 8: the stronger we are, and the faster we can make
Speaker 8: changes exactly.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: I'm Kevin Gordon, America's Trucking Network seven hundred w LW.
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Speaker 2: I was a great interview with him. I always enjoy
Speaker 2: talking to him. There's always a lot of great information
Speaker 2: when we talk. And I can't emphasize enough the importance
Speaker 2: of these bills that are before Congress. And as he mentioned,
Speaker 2: you need to check the website oh Aida working for
Speaker 2: truckers and making sure that you are calling Congress. It
Speaker 2: is extremely important that you call your congressman and senators
Speaker 2: to make sure that you show your support for these bills.
Speaker 2: That was we talked about with Louis Representative David Ross
Speaker 2: Ross bill Non Domicile CDLs and English Language Proficiency from
Speaker 2: Senator Roger Marshall. Now, if you call the Congress Hotline
Speaker 2: or there what they call it Congressional Data Line, in
Speaker 2: order to connect with your individual senators or congressman. You
Speaker 2: call that number and it's area code to zero two
Speaker 2: two two four three one two one. That is the
Speaker 2: US and US House and Senate house switchboard operator to
Speaker 2: zero two two two four three one two one, and
Speaker 2: all you have to do is contact them, let them
Speaker 2: know what state you're in, where you live, and they
Speaker 2: will put you in touch with the individual congressman or
Speaker 2: senator in your area and you can leave and be polite.
Speaker 2: You want to make sure that you're leaving a notification
Speaker 2: or a voice message for your congressman or senator and
Speaker 2: letting them know that how you stand on these issues
Speaker 2: and want them to vote to pass this legislation. Also,
Speaker 2: make sure that you check out o IDAs Fighting for
Speaker 2: Truckers dot com, as Louie had mentioned. And by the way,
Speaker 2: if you miss any part of our program, if you
Speaker 2: miss any of our shows, make sure you hit up
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Speaker 2: friends at Rush Truck Centers, and we certainly appreciate that. Now,
Speaker 2: kind of digging a little bit deeper into this subject
Speaker 2: as far as what we were discussing with Louis because
Speaker 2: there was an editorial that was put out recently by
Speaker 2: Craig Fuller.
Speaker 3: He is the CEO of Freight Waves.
Speaker 2: And he kind of lays this out and kind of
Speaker 2: explains because when we hear that the FMCSA back in
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen under the Obama administration. The final days of
Speaker 2: the Aboma administration relaxed the enforcement of the English language
Speaker 2: Preference of English Language Proficiency regulation as far as pulling
Speaker 2: people over and making them out of service if they
Speaker 2: don't pass this. A lot of people have asked, well,
Speaker 2: why didn't the Trump administration when they came into office
Speaker 2: push that back. As Louis pointed out, this was a
Speaker 2: provision that was put in there as far as non
Speaker 2: domiciled CDLs in order to get people that in a
Speaker 2: particular state to be able to obtain a license in
Speaker 2: another state or be able to be allowed to drive
Speaker 2: in other states. This was non intended to bypass the
Speaker 2: English language proficiency. Now, even though they decreased that the
Speaker 2: number of people out on the highway I think Louis
Speaker 2: talked about was six thousand people potentially at that point
Speaker 2: isn't a big deal and so it wasn't on the
Speaker 2: radar screen that much. However, with the flood and the
Speaker 2: open gates and the invasion of this country under the
Speaker 2: Biden administration, and with some of the people being able
Speaker 2: to get driver's license, that shouldn't have been getting driver's license.
Speaker 2: This has become even a more serious problem. So that's
Speaker 2: why back during the first Trump administration that these bills
Speaker 2: weren't pushed through. I wish that had somehow gotten on
Speaker 2: the radar screen and pushed through, but it certainly is
Speaker 2: now now. In this editorial, American trucking industry is facing
Speaker 2: unprecedented challenges, marked by a deepening economic crisis and deteriorating
Speaker 2: highway safety standards. While supply chain disruptions during the COVID
Speaker 2: nineteen pandemic brought attention to the transportation sector, the narrative
Speaker 2: surrounding these issues has been largely mischaracterized, particularly regarding the
Speaker 2: nature and extent of the p orted truck driver shortage.
Speaker 2: He points out. In this background, American Trucking Associations has
Speaker 2: consistently promoted the idea of a chronic truck driver shortage
Speaker 2: to Congress and the public. During the height of the
Speaker 2: COVID nineteen pandemic, when supply chains experienced a significant strain,
Speaker 2: this narrative gained considerable traction. Responding to what was portrayed
Speaker 2: as an urgent crisis, both states and federal governments implemented
Speaker 2: policy changes aimed at rapidly expanding truck driver workforces. Now
Speaker 2: he mentions in here that the measures including lower standards
Speaker 2: and commercial driver's license qualification, relaxing training requirements, and easing restrictions.
Speaker 2: Now he's saying that these could have been done other
Speaker 2: ways than this, but it was a push to get
Speaker 2: as many people in there, and he is faulting the
Speaker 2: American trucking associations for allowing this to happen. Regulatory changes
Speaker 2: had far reaching consequences that extended beyond simply increasing the
Speaker 2: number of available drivers. The trucking industry witnessed an influx
Speaker 2: of inadequately trained individuals, many of whom reportedly lacked proper
Speaker 2: understanding of American road regulations and language proficiency. This situation
Speaker 2: created a dangerous precedent. Now I mentioned that a lot
Speaker 2: of these violations that come into play, as far as
Speaker 2: hours of operation and operating vehicles over more than twenty
Speaker 2: up to twenty hours per day. Freight recession has been
Speaker 2: caused by an endless glut of capacity. Now he mentions
Speaker 2: that there was a lot of things that were going on.
Speaker 2: But as he pointed out that in order to cut
Speaker 2: costs in order to bring down because the freight rates
Speaker 2: were coming down and this was starting to cut into
Speaker 2: the profitability. They had to figure out a way or
Speaker 2: they wanted to figure out a way of lowering costs.
Speaker 2: The big costs is driver wages. So if you can
Speaker 2: get a cheaper labor force is and what we are
Speaker 2: experiencing in the economy as it is now, with the
Speaker 2: glut of cheap labor with a lot of these illegals
Speaker 2: that are here in the country that will work for
Speaker 2: less than minimum wage or at or about minimum wage,
Speaker 2: depresses and pulls down the wages for the American people.
Speaker 2: So the people that are in the middle class and
Speaker 2: the people that would normally have those jobs, those are
Speaker 2: being dragged down. And we're basically having an economy now
Speaker 2: where we've seen more and more of where it's a
Speaker 2: squeeze squeezing out the middle class and that you're left
Speaker 2: with just lower class and upper class in your economy.
Speaker 2: You need all three classes in order to be a
Speaker 2: successful country and in order to have an adequate workforce,
Speaker 2: because generally, if businesses are expanding, you can have the
Speaker 2: opportunity of hiring people which pull people out of the
Speaker 2: lower class lower incomes into the middle class and middle
Speaker 2: class wages. But when you have an influx of illegals
Speaker 2: that are willing to work and being hired less than
Speaker 2: what the normal wages are, that is going to have
Speaker 2: the effect of depressing those wages and keeping the workforce down.
Speaker 2: To sacrifice profitability or make sure that your profitability is
Speaker 2: up at the expense of safety is one of the
Speaker 2: things that Craig Fuller is talking about in here. What
Speaker 2: has followed has been described as a great freight recession,
Speaker 2: characterized as a most severe economic downturn of the freight
Speaker 2: industry has ever experienced. Yes, this freight recession has gone
Speaker 2: on now for more than three years, and normally these
Speaker 2: freight recesses, and you folks in the trucking industry, you've
Speaker 2: seen this before. You've seen situations where the trucking recession
Speaker 2: has gone on and where you've had different times of
Speaker 2: where freight rates have been down, freight rates have been up,
Speaker 2: and you've seen how these have ebbed and flowed over
Speaker 2: the years. And generally, if they are going to last,
Speaker 2: they're only going to last for about I think the
Speaker 2: average is what I was seeing was somewhere between twelve
Speaker 2: and fourteen months. We are now into the third year
Speaker 2: of this great recession. Also, he points out here in
Speaker 2: his editorial, and I'm going to put this on Facebook
Speaker 2: because this is extremely important.
Speaker 3: Craig Fuller, CEO of Freight Waves.
Speaker 2: Family owned trucking firms have been wiped out because they
Speaker 2: can't compete. ATA is under claiming that ATA is basically.
Speaker 3: Undermining their members.
Speaker 2: Members joined the American Trucking Associations in order to be
Speaker 2: part of a group of a group that is going
Speaker 2: to be fighting for their rights and promoting business practices
Speaker 2: that support them and help them in their industry. And
Speaker 2: what the ATA has been doing by import by allowing
Speaker 2: or pushing for or allowing these companies to push for
Speaker 2: lower wages, and some of the regulations that were not
Speaker 2: being enforced, and some of the lacks that was being
Speaker 2: done as far as the actual issuing of these CDLs
Speaker 2: has actually hurt their membership. And he's very adamant on that.
Speaker 2: And this isn't the first time I've heard this being
Speaker 2: discussed and the first time I've heard this being talked about,
Speaker 2: and so this is definitely something that has to be
Speaker 2: looked at. Now we're not going to have obviously a
Speaker 2: chance to get to it today. But one of the
Speaker 2: things that has been pointed out is how the actual
Speaker 2: process of illegal aliens are getting CDLs in the United States,
Speaker 2: and some of the discussions where California is claiming that
Speaker 2: they are actually in within the regulations, that they're following
Speaker 2: the regulations, their arguments quite honestly don't meet the standards.
Speaker 2: If they're claiming that they enforce the English language proficiency,
Speaker 2: how is somebody getting a driver's license. As we saw
Speaker 2: the accident in Florida and then the accident in southern
Speaker 2: California that the driver of both of those vehicles couldn't
Speaker 2: speak English. So if they say that they're not issuing
Speaker 2: licenses to people that can't pass the English language proficiency,
Speaker 2: how did they get a license? That's a simple question. Well, folks,
Speaker 2: we're up against clock here. Stay tuned for Red Eye
Speaker 2: Radio at the.
Speaker 3: Top the hour.
Speaker 2: I'm Kevin Gordon, America's Truck and Network seven hundred WL