WEBVTT - America's Truckin Network -- 10/31/25

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<v Speaker 1>This is America's Trucking Network with Kevin Gordon.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome board, Thanks for tuning in on this final day

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<v Speaker 2>of October. Happy Halloween to each and every one of you. Tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>in a lot of places, the trick or treaters are

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<v Speaker 2>going to be out there, and so let's be careful

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<v Speaker 2>out there because these kids on Halloween, they're more interested

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<v Speaker 2>in getting the candy than paying attention to traffic. And

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<v Speaker 2>so if you're in a particular neighborhood, be aware the

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<v Speaker 2>kids may be darting out in traffic. And let's have

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<v Speaker 2>a very safe Halloween and trick or treat. What is

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<v Speaker 2>really scary, especially as far as the Halloween Melissa, the

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<v Speaker 2>hurricane Melissa is still wreaking havoc down on the Caribbean.

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<v Speaker 2>Looking at some of the pictures from Jamaica and the

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<v Speaker 2>film reports of people being able to get in there

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<v Speaker 2>and the absolute devastation radible down there, and it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be a long time till they recover. Currently, Melissa

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<v Speaker 2>is over Bermuda, and of course we'll get more information

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<v Speaker 2>on that as it passes. But what we're also seeing

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<v Speaker 2>is that on the in the upper Northeastern area, we're

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<v Speaker 2>getting on a lot of rain and it's an unusual

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<v Speaker 2>strug Well, actually it's the outlying area of the storm

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<v Speaker 2>from Melissa, because normally the weather, if you know, we

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<v Speaker 2>get weather from the north and northwest, west and northwest,

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<v Speaker 2>i should say, and this storm is actually coming from

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<v Speaker 2>the northeast and the east, which is unusual. And so

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<v Speaker 2>they're getting an awful lot of rain in the northeastern

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<v Speaker 2>and along the coast of the Atlantic coast. So if

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<v Speaker 2>you're in the area there, be aware that the that

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<v Speaker 2>the weather is going to be very rainy and windy,

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<v Speaker 2>and be careful out there.

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<v Speaker 3>Again, getting home is job one.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you see any conditions that are different than

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<v Speaker 2>what is being told about or talked about on your

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<v Speaker 2>weather app or weathermen or whatever you're listening, to make

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<v Speaker 2>sure you let the people behind you know if you're

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<v Speaker 2>encountering something that's unusual, and hopefully the people in front

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<v Speaker 2>of you will let you know. Because there's an awful

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<v Speaker 2>lot of wind and a lawful lot of rain. Now

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<v Speaker 2>they're talking about in certain areas that they're experiencing fifty

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<v Speaker 2>sixty mile an hour winds now. Once you get up

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<v Speaker 2>above fifty five miles an hour, that is technically hurricane conditioned,

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<v Speaker 2>so they are still even though they're on the outside

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<v Speaker 2>area of the cone of where this storm is going,

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<v Speaker 2>because Melissa currently on its track is heading north east

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<v Speaker 2>away from the coast of the United States and Canada.

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<v Speaker 2>But the outlying storms as a result of that is

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<v Speaker 2>what's causing a lot of wind and rain. So technically

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<v Speaker 2>they're not in a hurricane area there, but the winds

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<v Speaker 2>are awfully high. We did see and we mentioned yesterday

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<v Speaker 2>that there's been I think up to now five structures

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<v Speaker 2>on the west on the Cape Hatteras in that area

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<v Speaker 2>buck Buck what is it, Buxton, South Carolina, where these

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<v Speaker 2>houses are built near the beach and on the beach basically,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're on these stilts, which is supposed to take

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<v Speaker 2>care of any of the waves and also the high tides,

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<v Speaker 2>low tides and so on. But with these winds coming

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<v Speaker 2>in and the waves hitting this, it's knocked out those

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<v Speaker 2>stilts and these houses have collapsed. So it's up to

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<v Speaker 2>five now currently. We had twelve structures that were destroyed

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of weeks ago, so now up to about

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<v Speaker 2>seventeen structures that have been destroyed. So be careful out

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<v Speaker 2>there and make sure you get home safe and make

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<v Speaker 2>sure that, as I said, getting home is job one.

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<v Speaker 2>President Trump wrapped up his week long visit. I guess

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<v Speaker 2>Asia trip is what they're week long Asia trip, I

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<v Speaker 2>should say. And if you see what happens, if you

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<v Speaker 2>look at what happened, it was absolutely amazing and a

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<v Speaker 2>tremendous success. Of course, the spoon fed regurgitators in the

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<v Speaker 2>mainstream media aren't going to talk about it very much

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<v Speaker 2>or talk about it in very high praise. But if

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<v Speaker 2>you looked at the pomp and circumstance that he was

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<v Speaker 2>welcomed in Malaysia, in Japan, in South Korea, how they

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<v Speaker 2>rolled out the red carpet for him. When you see

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<v Speaker 2>the way that the new prime minister from Japan, and

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<v Speaker 2>I know I'm going to butcher her name, but I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to give it a shot.

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<v Speaker 3>Here.

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<v Speaker 2>The Prime Minister, SHANEI. Takiyachi is her name.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Not only was she exuberant being on stage with President

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<v Speaker 2>Trump during his visit when he was speaking in front

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<v Speaker 2>of the troops, but she has also recommended him, along

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<v Speaker 2>with some of these other countries, have recommended him for

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<v Speaker 2>the Nobel Peace Prize for the peace that he's brought

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<v Speaker 2>around the world and across the world. So there's up

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<v Speaker 2>to several different countries now that have written letters nominating

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<v Speaker 2>him for the Nobel Peace Prize. Just kind of a

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<v Speaker 2>rundown quickly, is what's going on. But of course USA

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<v Speaker 2>Today and the spoonfeeder regurgitators of the mainstream media, they'll

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<v Speaker 2>deal with. The headline says trade deals, pageantry and nuke's

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<v Speaker 2>seven takeaways from Trump's Trump's trip to Asia in their

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<v Speaker 2>sub headline, Trump's week long trip to Malaysia, Japan and

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<v Speaker 2>South Korea showcase the pageantry of foreign affairs against the

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<v Speaker 2>backdrop of government shutdown at home that threaten to become

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<v Speaker 2>the longest heir ever. And of course they don't mention

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<v Speaker 2>that it's the Schumer shutdown. They don't mention that it's

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<v Speaker 2>the Democrats holding this up. There is a recording of

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<v Speaker 2>one of the Democratic senators talking about that, yes, people

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<v Speaker 2>are going to be feeling pain, but this is the

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<v Speaker 2>only levers we have and the only control that we

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<v Speaker 2>have in Congress and in the Senate. So yes, all

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<v Speaker 2>they have to do again what they did back in March.

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<v Speaker 2>They signed this continuing resolution that kept things going, kept

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<v Speaker 2>the government open until they negotiated some of the other

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<v Speaker 2>deals and so on. But what they're holding out for now,

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<v Speaker 2>there's this clean resolution that's there.

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<v Speaker 3>Been sitting on the table.

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<v Speaker 2>They have voted on it thirteen times, the Democrats have

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<v Speaker 2>voted against it thirteen times, and they are still shutting

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<v Speaker 2>down the government. And what they're holding out for is

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<v Speaker 2>one point five trillion dollars in additional spending above and

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<v Speaker 2>beyond what this clean resolution is.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's not the way you do things in Washington.

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<v Speaker 2>And they are going to pay a tremendous price for

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<v Speaker 2>this because people are not buying into the crap that

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<v Speaker 2>they are pushing. And some of the polls are indicating

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<v Speaker 2>that even though the spoon fed regurgitators in the mainstream

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<v Speaker 2>media are saying one thing, the people that are being

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<v Speaker 2>pulled realize something completely different and having a different reaction

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<v Speaker 2>than what they would hope them to have. Trump reduced

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<v Speaker 2>a China tariffs that he met with the jijingping there

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<v Speaker 2>in South Korea and they did hammer out certain agreements.

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<v Speaker 2>There's going to be a lowering of teriffs in exchange

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<v Speaker 2>for China purchasing agriculture and electronics trade. Trump has lowered

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<v Speaker 2>South Korea tariffs in exchange for US investment. Trump also announced,

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<v Speaker 2>Now in this story, they said, announce the resumption of

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<v Speaker 2>nuclear weapons testing, and they go into this whole scenario

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<v Speaker 2>talking about how this is an aggressive on Trump's part

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<v Speaker 2>and that this is kind of adding to the arms race.

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<v Speaker 3>However, what they failed to.

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<v Speaker 2>Mention is the fact that Vladimir Putin has decided that

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<v Speaker 2>he is going to up the ante a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>And again is Phil Flynn points out in his Energy Report,

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<v Speaker 2>Russian President Vladimir Putin made a mistake by unintentionally starting

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<v Speaker 2>a new arms race.

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<v Speaker 3>US afree tested.

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<v Speaker 2>A new nuclear capable, nuclear powered, long range remote torpedo

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<v Speaker 2>that he claimed was experts have dubbed the doomsday machine. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>with him doing that, Trump is indicated that he's going

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<v Speaker 2>to balance that off and renew nuclear testing on the

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<v Speaker 2>part of the US because we have the largest and

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<v Speaker 2>he's been very reluctant to do any testing as far

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<v Speaker 2>as nuclear weapons and trying to promote peace and actually

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<v Speaker 2>reduce the number of nuclear weapons. But if Russia is

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<v Speaker 2>going to amp this up, of course we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>amp it up. Also coming up, we're going to be

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<v Speaker 2>talking to Louis Pugh. I want to mention that real quick.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to be talking about, of course, Louis Pugh,

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<v Speaker 2>executive vice president of oh IDA Owner Operator Independent Drivers Association.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to be talking about a couple of pieces

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<v Speaker 2>of legislation pending before Congress, the Non Domicile CDLs and

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<v Speaker 2>English Language proficiency.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of things.

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<v Speaker 2>Going on in this and one, you know, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know how long the interview is gonna go, but we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to go as long as we can because there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of issues here and a lot of things

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<v Speaker 2>that's not getting accurately reported in the media. But we'll

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<v Speaker 2>get to all that coming up. I'm Kevin Gordon, America's

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<v Speaker 2>Trucking Network, seven hundred WLW.

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<v Speaker 4>I need.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the briefing reward on America's Trucking Network on

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<v Speaker 1>seven hundred WLW.

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<v Speaker 5>The Infinity Series Champion will be crowned Saturday night in Phoenix.

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<v Speaker 5>Connors Zilich, Carson Gwaffle, also Justin Algeyer and Jesse Love

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<v Speaker 5>are in the Ecinity Final four. Danny Hamlin, who will

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<v Speaker 5>run for the Cup Series twenty twenty five titles Sunday

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<v Speaker 5>on Dirty Wild media on his pick for the Exfinity champ.

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<v Speaker 6>The seven car last year was very, very dominant. You

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<v Speaker 6>gotta think he's going to be pretty tough again, But

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<v Speaker 6>you also got the eighty eight.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's still going to be a close one.

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<v Speaker 6>Justin's experience at Phoenix will counter whatever success the eighty

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<v Speaker 6>eight has had throughout the season, and so I think

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<v Speaker 6>that's going to be a one A one B type

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<v Speaker 6>of race, and then Jesse will be right there near them,

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<v Speaker 6>and then Carson is going to need to find some speed.

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<v Speaker 6>Who's your pick? Then I'll give the nod to Justin.

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<v Speaker 6>His car is going to be just as prepared as

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<v Speaker 6>the eighty eight. He's not going to get beat on equipment.

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<v Speaker 3>Remember last year all the mistakes he had and to

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<v Speaker 3>still come backing. Yeah, they're lightning fast. Justin's my pick.

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<v Speaker 5>Sam Meyer has been suspended by NASCAR from Saturday's Exfinity

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<v Speaker 5>Series race at Phoenix after wrecking Jeb Burton on the

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<v Speaker 5>cool down lap last weekend at Martinsville. Colleague Racing will

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<v Speaker 5>pause its Exfinity Series program for the twenty twenty sixth season.

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<v Speaker 5>Since debuting in the series full time in twenty sixteen,

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<v Speaker 5>colleague has won twenty seven races and ten seasons, including

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<v Speaker 5>a pair of regular season championships from aj Allmendinger in

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<v Speaker 5>twenty twenty one and twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the racing report on America's Trucking Network on

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<v Speaker 1>seven hundred WLW, Say Dennis the reporting.

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<v Speaker 3>For a t N on the podcast Health Stuff. We

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<v Speaker 3>are tackling all the health questions that keep you up

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<v Speaker 3>at night. I'm doctor preon Gwalia double.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Kevin Gordon, America's Trucking Network, seven hundred WLW. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to welcome back to the friend of the show. Been

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<v Speaker 2>on this show a couple of times, a good friend

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<v Speaker 2>of the show. Louis Pugh, Executive vice president oh IDA,

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<v Speaker 2>owner Operator, Independent Drivers Association.

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<v Speaker 3>Louis, how are you welcome back to the program.

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<v Speaker 7>Hey, it's good to be on your program. It's good

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<v Speaker 7>to be back on here again.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you what, It's always a pleasure having you.

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<v Speaker 2>There's been a lot of things that have happened since

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<v Speaker 2>the last time we talked. One of the issues we

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<v Speaker 2>talked about back then was the English language proficiency issue,

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<v Speaker 2>and that has really come into the forefront now. But

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<v Speaker 2>also one of the things that has also crept up

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<v Speaker 2>as this non domicile worker. So I think non domicile CDLs.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's begin with that and kind of give us

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<v Speaker 2>a background on this and what's going on. I understand

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<v Speaker 2>there's a couple of bills before Congress, one on the

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<v Speaker 2>ELP and the other one on non domicille CDLs, so

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<v Speaker 2>kind of bring us up to speed on all that.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I mean, it's you're right.

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<v Speaker 8>There's been a lot of talk, especially this year with

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<v Speaker 8>the English science proficiency in the non domicile. The non

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<v Speaker 8>domicile stuff started back in twenty six.

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<v Speaker 7>Or twenty nineteen. I think they were ata of course

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<v Speaker 7>at petition.

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<v Speaker 8>Wanting that, and that was mainly it was designed to

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<v Speaker 8>allow people from out from one state to go to

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<v Speaker 8>another state to get their CDO. And what happened though,

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<v Speaker 8>is the way it worked out, it opened up the

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<v Speaker 8>floodgates to where people from other countries could come get

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<v Speaker 8>their CDO.

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<v Speaker 7>And that's what we've been seeing happen.

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<v Speaker 8>Is all these people from all over the place are

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<v Speaker 8>common and then unfortunately states some some states, I should say,

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<v Speaker 8>they just sort of opened the door let anybody.

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<v Speaker 7>They don't even know who they're giving.

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<v Speaker 8>Them to it seems like. And so fortunately the Trump

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<v Speaker 8>administration and dot has listened to us because we have

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<v Speaker 8>been yelling and complaining about this for a while now

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<v Speaker 8>and they finally started paying attention and and they've done somethings.

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<v Speaker 8>Secretary Duffy came out with that internal Final intern intern

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<v Speaker 8>Final rule that came out on these non domicile CEOs

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<v Speaker 8>to where they had to stop ascatonin states to stop

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<v Speaker 8>issuing them.

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<v Speaker 7>And then so we've had that happen. We've also had

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<v Speaker 7>the English language go into the out of service thanks

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<v Speaker 7>to this. There's been a lot of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Done now as far as the non domicild is concerned. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>non domicilde you mentioned had to do with trying to

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<v Speaker 2>get you know, people what Ohio, somebody in Ohio being

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<v Speaker 2>able to Indiana and so on, and then they open

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<v Speaker 2>this floodgates to people coming from outside the United States.

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<v Speaker 3>Do I have that correct?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 8>That's what it was designed for, your correct, was to

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<v Speaker 8>allow people within the United States to or you know,

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<v Speaker 8>from one state or another. That's what they're wanting it for.

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<v Speaker 7>And you know, of course courting, it's that thing about

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<v Speaker 7>all this.

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<v Speaker 8>This all goes back to this bullshit driver shortage narrative

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<v Speaker 8>that we continually have had to fight against, the pushback against,

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<v Speaker 8>because for years and years, you know, for forty years,

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<v Speaker 8>Big Trucking, American Trucking serisays and continues to say, we

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<v Speaker 8>have a driver shortage.

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<v Speaker 7>We've never had a driver shortage. But it's all to

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<v Speaker 7>keep wages low. And this was just one more regulation

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<v Speaker 7>that they were able to.

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<v Speaker 8>Get put out there at it's non domicile in the.

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<v Speaker 7>Name of driver shortage.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we do air this show after midnight, and we

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<v Speaker 2>are in that comfort zone where you can use certain

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<v Speaker 2>colorful language, but we prefer not to use the wholt

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<v Speaker 2>bs if you know what I mean. Yes, full excrement

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<v Speaker 2>there we go.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Mean, and it makes it kind of more comes into focus.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you had these HB one or H one

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<v Speaker 2>B visas where people were allowed to come into the

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<v Speaker 2>country if you did not have a particular if somebody

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<v Speaker 2>had a particular skill that wasn't able to be done

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<v Speaker 2>by a domestic a Native American or not a Native American,

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<v Speaker 2>but a person that is a US citizen. And then

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<v Speaker 2>they expanded that to consulting firms and they abuse the

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<v Speaker 2>heck out of the system. I guess this is another

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<v Speaker 2>leg up of that. And then, as you said, the

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<v Speaker 2>American Trucking Association's claiming that there was a driver shortage

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<v Speaker 2>when in fact there wasn't and got this ram rodded

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<v Speaker 2>through and in effect, just to repeat for everybody, this

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<v Speaker 2>has pushed down wages because if you've got a flood

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<v Speaker 2>of people, people that will work for a lot less

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<v Speaker 2>because they're really not a citizen in the United States,

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<v Speaker 2>that would then press down or pull down the wages themselves.

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<v Speaker 8>Correct, Yeah, correct, I mean trucking salaries for truck drivers

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<v Speaker 8>have not kept up with inflation since the nineteen seventies,

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<v Speaker 8>and when you have a shortage of something, prices go up.

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<v Speaker 7>So if we had a trucking or driver.

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<v Speaker 8>Shortage, driver's salaries and wages would be off the charts,

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<v Speaker 8>But we don't because we keep litigating, you know, from

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<v Speaker 8>this driver shortage narrative was what we've done for forty years,

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<v Speaker 8>and that's why we're in this mess that we're in. Well,

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<v Speaker 8>we have a shortage of is pay and training and parking.

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<v Speaker 8>Those are three things we have a shortage of. And

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<v Speaker 8>you know, we're in the longest recession in trucking history.

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<v Speaker 8>Why because we have too much capacity, too much capacity

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<v Speaker 8>of too many truckers and too many trucks. That's why

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<v Speaker 8>the rates aren't coming back. And you know, the big

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<v Speaker 8>carriers and folks say they have a business model using

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<v Speaker 8>very cheap salary and cheap way is and the only

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<v Speaker 8>way they can do that, as my boss said, Todd Spencer,

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<v Speaker 8>our long time our president said, when the job sucks,

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<v Speaker 8>you got to find more suckers. And unfortunately that's what

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<v Speaker 8>they're trying to do. That's why we see this push

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<v Speaker 8>for one hundred and twenty one drivers, this push for

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<v Speaker 8>these non domiciles.

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<v Speaker 7>All this stuff is for cheap labor.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, as far as a non domicilet is concerned, if

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<v Speaker 2>somebody is here legally I guess through a green card

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever, and they have a work permit, that would

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<v Speaker 2>not prevent them from getting a CDO license.

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<v Speaker 9>Correct, well, yes and no kind of now right now,

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<v Speaker 9>it's the way the rule has been written.

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<v Speaker 8>You are correct. You could be here, you have to

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<v Speaker 8>be here. You can have an HP t V srawone,

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<v Speaker 8>but you have to go through all this stuff to

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<v Speaker 8>get that things properly.

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<v Speaker 7>F and CSA stepped in put.

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<v Speaker 8>This IFR out to where this has to be. So really,

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<v Speaker 8>what it's going to amount to is a few agricultural

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<v Speaker 8>workers out here and very few from are going to

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<v Speaker 8>you know, could possibly get CDLs the hall stuff from

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<v Speaker 8>field to farm or something like that.

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<v Speaker 7>From the research we've seen the.

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<v Speaker 8>Carve out that's in this if R that Trump and

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<v Speaker 8>Duffy put in the amount of.

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<v Speaker 7>There's only been six thousand of the.

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<v Speaker 8>CDOs put out to those kind of people.

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<v Speaker 9>Since two thousand and nine till now, so that's hardly anybody,

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<v Speaker 9>right exactly, I've heard of anyone, but what we've been

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<v Speaker 9>saying Louis Pugh, by the way, we're speaking with Louis Pugh,

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<v Speaker 9>executive vice president of Oheida.

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<v Speaker 2>What we've seen though is that some of these people

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<v Speaker 2>that are that have these work visas, they will expire

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<v Speaker 2>and within like say they're at the point where they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to expire with say within a year, they will

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<v Speaker 2>get a CD license that is good for how long?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it good for four years? Is it have to

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<v Speaker 2>be renewed every year? How how often does and two?

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<v Speaker 8>Until this i f R came out in September, you're

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<v Speaker 8>right there with the cdo may last longer than their

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<v Speaker 8>work visa.

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<v Speaker 3>That's that's why you.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't have so technically want to see, so technically once

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<v Speaker 2>their visa runs out, they should not be permitted to

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<v Speaker 2>be driving. They that basically, even though they have a

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<v Speaker 2>cd L, it actually becomes null and void because they

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<v Speaker 2>don't have the permit to work in the country.

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<v Speaker 8>Correct, you are correct, and that's the way it was

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<v Speaker 8>prior to the i f R in September. Okay, but

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<v Speaker 8>there's still probably people that they're running around with these

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<v Speaker 8>because you know, when rules and regulations are passed there

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<v Speaker 8>from that point forward, they're usually not retroactive. So if

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<v Speaker 8>there are some see undone nomoso CDOs out there like this,

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<v Speaker 8>they don't really they're don have to do some checking

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<v Speaker 8>her to go back and get rid of them.

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<v Speaker 7>With the way the law works, whether.

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<v Speaker 8>They can or can, it's kind of a state thing

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<v Speaker 8>since the i f R came out. The way it

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<v Speaker 8>works now and the way it should have been before.

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<v Speaker 8>But the way it will work for now with the

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<v Speaker 8>i f R is that your CDO would be good

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<v Speaker 8>for one year or till the ex visa expires, whichever

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<v Speaker 8>is first.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's part of this legislation.

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<v Speaker 8>Correct, that's part of the I f R and the

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<v Speaker 8>Duffy and Trump put out.

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<v Speaker 7>And now since then, you know, there's some truckers out there.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't think I'm.

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<v Speaker 8>Quite ready to understand it, but because they're getting all mad.

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<v Speaker 8>They were happy with what Trumping Duffy put out. But

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<v Speaker 8>now Congressman Rouser has a bill out there that would

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<v Speaker 8>cod codify this because.

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<v Speaker 7>Right now it's a ruling.

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<v Speaker 2>This a good place for us to take a break,

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<v Speaker 2>because we had to step out and we'll pick this

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<v Speaker 2>up on the other side. Speaking with Louis Pugh, Executive

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<v Speaker 2>vice president o AIDA, owner Operator Independent Drivers Association, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>Kevin Gordon, America's truck in Network seven hundred WLW.

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<v Speaker 3>News, Traffic and Weather.

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<v Speaker 5>News Radio seven hundred WLW Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 10>Meet the new Ohio congressional map with your twelve thirty report.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm Travis Lair.

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<v Speaker 10>Breaking now, the state's redistricting Commission is set to approve

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<v Speaker 10>a plan that looks almost identical to the one the

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<v Speaker 10>Supreme Court struck down in twenty twenty two for unfairly

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<v Speaker 10>favoring the GOP. Democrats spent months pushing a seven to

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<v Speaker 10>eight map that they said reflected Ohio's recent voting history,

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<v Speaker 10>while Republicans never offered one of their own. Just last week,

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<v Speaker 10>Democrats threatened a referendum if Republicans drew the lines alone.

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<v Speaker 10>Now they're supporting a deal that avoids one, but they

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<v Speaker 10>haven't said why. The map was posted online only after

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<v Speaker 10>the meeting began, leaving the public no time to comment.

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<v Speaker 10>After gears of court fights and promised reforms, the final

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<v Speaker 10>product brings Ohio right back to where it started. You

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<v Speaker 10>can see the map on our X feed at seven

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<v Speaker 11>On the way to Friday morning, we've got clear skies,

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<v Speaker 11>colder morning low of thirty nine. Now as we look

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<v Speaker 11>at the rest of the day on Friday, we're partly

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<v Speaker 11>to mostly sunny, a high of fifty five at night,

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<v Speaker 11>fair skies in a low down to forty. Right now,

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<v Speaker 11>there's a slight chance of a shower on Sunday. From

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<v Speaker 11>your severe Weather station, I'm nine First Warning Chief Meteorologist

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<v Speaker 11>Steve Rowley, News Radio seven hundred WLW. On Sunday afternoon,

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<v Speaker 11>we're looking at the little light rain. It'll be about

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<v Speaker 11>fifty two degrees when the Bengals face the Bears at

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<v Speaker 11>one o'clock. Here at pay Corpse Stadium. We'll have that

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<v Speaker 10>Hamilton County commissioners have rejected a plan to expand local

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<v Speaker 10>property tax exemptions, saying the move would have cost schools

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<v Speaker 10>and local services more than thirty four million dollars a year.

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<v Speaker 10>The optional tax breaks were authorized under a new state law,

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<v Speaker 10>but would not have been reimbursed by the state. Commissioners

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<v Speaker 10>said the change would have shifted costs away from the

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<v Speaker 10>state and onto counties and school districts. Cincinnati Public Schools

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<v Speaker 10>alone stood to lose about seven and a half million dollars,

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<v Speaker 10>equivalent to dozens of teacher salaries, at a time when

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<v Speaker 10>many districts are already cutting staff to close budget gaps.

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<v Speaker 10>Lee Mawen, let's talk about sports, Buddy seven one hundred WLW.

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<v Speaker 12>Sports Joe Flacco gets in a limited practice Thursday. Bengals

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<v Speaker 12>signed linebacker Joe Gile Harris to the active roster. Also

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<v Speaker 12>defensive tackled McKinley Jackson requests for a trade or his

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<v Speaker 12>release Night hosts the Bears Sunday afternoon one. The Cyclones

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<v Speaker 12>fall to the Indie Fuel two to one. John Jarwarski

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<v Speaker 12>scoring the low goal since Night now two and two

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<v Speaker 12>and traveling to Bloomington Saturday night and the field hockey

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<v Speaker 12>semi final. Thomas Worlington won Mountain Notre Dame zero. Cougar's

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<v Speaker 12>finished the year thirteen and eight.

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<v Speaker 7>Thank you, Lee Mawen.

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<v Speaker 13>From the rest of the country, and the try suit

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<v Speaker 13>overnight will dry out up your rain. The past two

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<v Speaker 13>days partly cloudy, the load down to thirty nine, mostly

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<v Speaker 13>sunny both Friday and Saturday, highs topound in the upper fifties.

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<v Speaker 13>A chance of really rain Sunday, otherwise mostly a HI

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<v Speaker 13>fifty seven. Nationally, heavy rainfall expected to continue into FODI

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<v Speaker 13>for upstate New York and the New England states. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 13>heavy rain will be seen over the Northwest on Halloween

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<v Speaker 13>and in two Saturday trick or treating will also be

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<v Speaker 13>what for the Upper Mississippi Valley. Below average temperature is

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<v Speaker 13>expected across areas east of the Rockies, while above average

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<v Speaker 13>temperatures are forecasts from the Rockies to the west Coast.

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<v Speaker 2>Seven hundred is wlw IM Kevin Gordon. This is America's

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<v Speaker 2>trucking Network. Continuing our conversation with Louis Pugh, Executive vice

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<v Speaker 2>president o AIDA, Owner Operator Independent Drivers Association. Before the break, Louis,

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<v Speaker 2>we were talking about this IFR Interim final rule. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a mandate or a rule put in by

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<v Speaker 2>the Department of Transportation, and as I understand this, it

0:25:48.600 --> 0:25:50.880
<v Speaker 2>is something that well, all right, this is like an

0:25:50.920 --> 0:25:54.920
<v Speaker 2>executive order at this point. With a new administration, this

0:25:55.000 --> 0:25:58.960
<v Speaker 2>could change or it could be well probably more relaxed

0:25:59.080 --> 0:26:03.199
<v Speaker 2>or whatever. So there is no need by Congress to

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<v Speaker 2>step in here and codify a law that allows us

0:26:07.000 --> 0:26:12.000
<v Speaker 2>to continue beyond any administration, which is right for the

0:26:12.040 --> 0:26:12.840
<v Speaker 2>trucking industry.

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<v Speaker 3>Correct? Do I have that right?

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<v Speaker 7>You are a hundred correct, Gordon.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, Congressman David Rouser introduced this bill.

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<v Speaker 3>Talk about this bill and what it does.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, well, and again it's a misinformation out there and

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<v Speaker 8>there's a few cisal media people going crazy and stuff

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<v Speaker 8>like that.

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<v Speaker 2>All that that doesn't happen. Come on, you people on

0:26:36.920 --> 0:26:39.800
<v Speaker 2>social media. They don't lie and misrepresent stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Come on.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, yeah, right, Well anyway says it makes lots of

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<v Speaker 8>people experts, Yes, anyway, but what what what I know?

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<v Speaker 8>What what it does is all the Rouser Bill does

0:26:54.359 --> 0:26:59.320
<v Speaker 8>is it codifies the the i f R that was

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<v Speaker 8>put out by the Trump administration and Duffy, which was

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<v Speaker 8>That's why I find this fascinating because the people who

0:27:06.320 --> 0:27:09.600
<v Speaker 8>are now picking on the Rouser Bill, when this came

0:27:09.640 --> 0:27:10.159
<v Speaker 8>out from.

0:27:10.080 --> 0:27:11.520
<v Speaker 7>DOOT, they were celebrating.

0:27:11.560 --> 0:27:14.719
<v Speaker 8>They were all happy about it. And we need this

0:27:14.800 --> 0:27:15.639
<v Speaker 8>bill to pass.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, I can't.

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<v Speaker 8>You gotta remind people Congressman Rouser is actually the chair

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<v Speaker 8>of the Highway Transit Subcommittee and the House T and.

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<v Speaker 7>I, so he's the guy.

0:27:26.200 --> 0:27:28.680
<v Speaker 8>That kind of is where trucking bills are gonna He's

0:27:28.680 --> 0:27:30.919
<v Speaker 8>gonna have to check off and it's his bills. So

0:27:31.000 --> 0:27:34.200
<v Speaker 8>this bill is the one that probably stands the best chance.

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<v Speaker 7>Of moving forward.

0:27:35.560 --> 0:27:39.080
<v Speaker 8>But again, his bill does nothing more than make it

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<v Speaker 8>a law, which what the FMCSA and DT made a rule.

0:27:44.920 --> 0:27:47.159
<v Speaker 8>They would make that rule of permanent law and a

0:27:47.240 --> 0:27:50.399
<v Speaker 8>good thing. Like you said, then another administration comes in,

0:27:50.480 --> 0:27:52.240
<v Speaker 8>they just can't roll it back. It would take a

0:27:52.320 --> 0:27:56.879
<v Speaker 8>congression out of Congress to move to change the law.

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<v Speaker 7>I was just get's like the eleds for folks out there.

0:28:00.760 --> 0:28:03.239
<v Speaker 7>We got elds. The only way you ever get rid

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<v Speaker 7>of eods.

0:28:03.840 --> 0:28:06.119
<v Speaker 8>It takes a act of Congress because it was mandated

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<v Speaker 8>by Congress in the first place.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, we're speaking with Louis Pugh, Executive Vice President ADA.

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<v Speaker 2>Now this is a great point and people need to

0:28:13.880 --> 0:28:17.119
<v Speaker 2>get behind this. So they need I guess once again,

0:28:17.200 --> 0:28:19.000
<v Speaker 2>we got to put the call out to people to

0:28:19.040 --> 0:28:23.000
<v Speaker 2>call their congressmen, their senators and get them on board

0:28:23.040 --> 0:28:26.880
<v Speaker 2>with this because otherwise this, as we saw with all

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<v Speaker 2>so many other pieces of legislation that we've seen over

0:28:29.480 --> 0:28:32.879
<v Speaker 2>the years, it just gets stuck in Congress, gets turned

0:28:32.880 --> 0:28:36.040
<v Speaker 2>in the bin and never gets to the house floor.

0:28:36.760 --> 0:28:39.000
<v Speaker 2>You know, sits on the present, you know, sits in Congress,

0:28:39.000 --> 0:28:41.480
<v Speaker 2>sits in the Senate, never goes forward and so on.

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<v Speaker 2>So I guess the pressure has to come from the people,

0:28:45.800 --> 0:28:49.760
<v Speaker 2>because again with the different accidents that we've seen, the

0:28:49.760 --> 0:28:52.680
<v Speaker 2>fatalities that we've seen, the fact that we don't have

0:28:52.720 --> 0:28:56.720
<v Speaker 2>a driver shortage, which you know, is creating a problem

0:28:56.720 --> 0:29:00.840
<v Speaker 2>as far as depressing the wages, having an overcapacity, and

0:29:01.240 --> 0:29:05.160
<v Speaker 2>having people on the road that necessarily aren't trained properly

0:29:05.520 --> 0:29:09.480
<v Speaker 2>in order to drive this eighty thousand pound vehicle. This

0:29:09.560 --> 0:29:13.000
<v Speaker 2>would basically make our roads safer. And you would think

0:29:13.320 --> 0:29:16.160
<v Speaker 2>that people would be interested in making our roads safer.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, you would think so. I mean, that's the thing

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<v Speaker 7>I tell people. All these bad rules and regulations.

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<v Speaker 8>And all these bad things that's been passed due to drivers. Yes,

0:29:26.600 --> 0:29:29.920
<v Speaker 8>we're paying for this on America's highways. And we've seen

0:29:30.000 --> 0:29:34.040
<v Speaker 8>that tenfold here lately with these accidents where the guy

0:29:34.160 --> 0:29:36.200
<v Speaker 8>made the turn in Florida and then what happened down

0:29:36.240 --> 0:29:37.640
<v Speaker 8>here in California, and.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, and it's just real sad. I mean, that's

0:29:40.560 --> 0:29:44.960
<v Speaker 7>a sad thing. About these folks. They should have never got.

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<v Speaker 8>Behind the wee overtruck in the first place, because they

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<v Speaker 8>should have never gotten through training.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now, we have this two pronged issue that people

0:29:53.640 --> 0:29:56.040
<v Speaker 2>that have been in the news a lot, the English

0:29:56.160 --> 0:30:01.160
<v Speaker 2>language proficiency and this non domiciled worker. And I think,

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<v Speaker 2>in my opinion, it seems that the emphasis should be

0:30:04.320 --> 0:30:08.160
<v Speaker 2>on the non domiciled workers because those probably are the

0:30:08.200 --> 0:30:12.120
<v Speaker 2>people that aren't passing the English proficiency. So if we

0:30:12.640 --> 0:30:15.360
<v Speaker 2>cut that off, then we don't it just kind of

0:30:15.400 --> 0:30:16.960
<v Speaker 2>like a chicken and the egg type of thing. I

0:30:17.040 --> 0:30:19.920
<v Speaker 2>think we need to start with the non domiciled workers

0:30:19.960 --> 0:30:23.640
<v Speaker 2>first and then make sure that we're making sure that

0:30:23.680 --> 0:30:27.520
<v Speaker 2>those English language proficiency, which is which well that was

0:30:27.560 --> 0:30:30.280
<v Speaker 2>already in the law, and that's already been passed by Congress,

0:30:30.560 --> 0:30:33.640
<v Speaker 2>which was ignored from twenty sixteen on.

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<v Speaker 3>Correct.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I mean, unfortunately, I guess you wouldn't say it's ignored.

0:30:37.800 --> 0:30:40.200
<v Speaker 7>It was. There was still a violation, and you're right,

0:30:40.280 --> 0:30:42.880
<v Speaker 7>it has a law English science proficiency.

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<v Speaker 8>We shouldn't even be having to talk about it because

0:30:45.480 --> 0:30:48.600
<v Speaker 8>it should have never been a problem in the first place. Unfortunately,

0:30:49.040 --> 0:30:52.600
<v Speaker 8>there's not strict enough training standards out here, not strict

0:30:52.680 --> 0:30:54.479
<v Speaker 8>enough checks and balances.

0:30:53.960 --> 0:30:56.440
<v Speaker 7>In the training for truckers, and.

0:30:56.520 --> 0:30:59.920
<v Speaker 8>Unfortunately, there's been a lot of less than a rep

0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:03.120
<v Speaker 8>veritable trucking schools that come out here and they training

0:31:03.160 --> 0:31:05.760
<v Speaker 8>these people when they have their third party testers and

0:31:05.800 --> 0:31:08.080
<v Speaker 8>they get them their cdo and they're when they're not

0:31:08.240 --> 0:31:10.680
<v Speaker 8>capable of speaking our language well enough to.

0:31:10.680 --> 0:31:13.880
<v Speaker 7>Drive a truck. And that's what's caused all this. But

0:31:13.960 --> 0:31:17.760
<v Speaker 7>you are correct. From twenty sixteen until till June of.

0:31:17.720 --> 0:31:20.600
<v Speaker 8>Twenty twenty five of this year, they took it out

0:31:20.600 --> 0:31:23.160
<v Speaker 8>of the out of service. It was still a violation,

0:31:23.400 --> 0:31:26.000
<v Speaker 8>and states were still writing the violation.

0:31:25.800 --> 0:31:28.280
<v Speaker 7>But it was just a violation and the trucker could

0:31:28.320 --> 0:31:30.360
<v Speaker 7>go on down the road. A lot of.

0:31:30.520 --> 0:31:35.280
<v Speaker 8>Thankfully and successfully we petitioned CVSA and was successful.

0:31:34.640 --> 0:31:36.720
<v Speaker 7>In that to get this put back.

0:31:36.520 --> 0:31:40.360
<v Speaker 8>Into the out of service under the pretext that they

0:31:40.400 --> 0:31:43.320
<v Speaker 8>can't read the road signs and they can't read the.

0:31:43.280 --> 0:31:44.600
<v Speaker 7>Electric messaging boards.

0:31:44.600 --> 0:31:46.400
<v Speaker 8>Because the reason they got throwed out in the first

0:31:46.400 --> 0:31:48.800
<v Speaker 8>place was they said, well, they can still communicate with

0:31:48.840 --> 0:31:52.720
<v Speaker 8>folks through you know, these translating services or their cell

0:31:52.720 --> 0:31:54.520
<v Speaker 8>phone and stuff like that. Well that's the thing I

0:31:54.560 --> 0:31:57.440
<v Speaker 8>helpe you read a sign or read electric TRUSTe board.

0:31:57.560 --> 0:31:58.240
<v Speaker 3>Oh that's great.

0:31:58.320 --> 0:32:01.680
<v Speaker 2>So we tell the drive public who are driving a

0:32:01.800 --> 0:32:05.800
<v Speaker 2>Mini Coopers or small Sedans or that type of thing,

0:32:06.200 --> 0:32:10.200
<v Speaker 2>no texting and driving. But we can tell somebody that

0:32:10.240 --> 0:32:13.120
<v Speaker 2>can't speak the English language, Oh, just do the app

0:32:13.160 --> 0:32:16.280
<v Speaker 2>on your phone and do the translation that way while

0:32:16.280 --> 0:32:18.440
<v Speaker 2>you're driving an eighty thousand pound vehicle.

0:32:21.480 --> 0:32:22.320
<v Speaker 3>No texting and.

0:32:22.320 --> 0:32:24.960
<v Speaker 8>Driving supposed rather driving.

0:32:25.000 --> 0:32:27.520
<v Speaker 7>But I'm not saying it exactly.

0:32:27.760 --> 0:32:31.280
<v Speaker 2>So it's just, you know, it's one of those things

0:32:31.320 --> 0:32:35.680
<v Speaker 2>where you would think that something in your wildest dreams.

0:32:35.760 --> 0:32:38.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't think you could ever have imagined, Louis Pugh,

0:32:39.160 --> 0:32:42.640
<v Speaker 2>that you would have a necessary for a law that

0:32:42.800 --> 0:32:46.360
<v Speaker 2>says in order to drive on the highway you have

0:32:46.440 --> 0:32:50.440
<v Speaker 2>to be able to read the signs and be proficient

0:32:50.560 --> 0:32:54.280
<v Speaker 2>in the language in order to communicate with people. You

0:32:54.280 --> 0:32:57.720
<v Speaker 2>would think that that is a given, but apparently you

0:32:57.840 --> 0:33:00.440
<v Speaker 2>have to spell this out and then out to fight

0:33:00.520 --> 0:33:03.800
<v Speaker 2>it in a law, which is insanity in my opinion.

0:33:04.160 --> 0:33:06.480
<v Speaker 7>Well, yeah, common sense got checked at.

0:33:06.360 --> 0:33:08.440
<v Speaker 8>The door now, and you're right about that, and I'm

0:33:08.480 --> 0:33:09.120
<v Speaker 8>with you, Gordon.

0:33:09.160 --> 0:33:09.840
<v Speaker 7>You wouldn't think.

0:33:09.760 --> 0:33:12.280
<v Speaker 8>We'd have to do that, This would be this hard

0:33:12.280 --> 0:33:14.040
<v Speaker 8>and you wouldn't think there'd be people against it, You

0:33:14.080 --> 0:33:17.640
<v Speaker 8>wouldn't think there's been people for it. Yeah, but unfortunately

0:33:18.200 --> 0:33:20.840
<v Speaker 8>it's all driven again, a lot of this stuff, most

0:33:20.880 --> 0:33:23.920
<v Speaker 8>of the stuff, it falls back to this whole bull

0:33:23.960 --> 0:33:27.600
<v Speaker 8>crap of a driver shortage narrative. If we wouldn't be

0:33:27.680 --> 0:33:30.520
<v Speaker 8>have been pushing out for the last forty years, we

0:33:30.600 --> 0:33:33.200
<v Speaker 8>probably wouldn't be having a discussion on some of these

0:33:33.200 --> 0:33:35.920
<v Speaker 8>things we're having. I mean, it's pretty common sense to

0:33:35.960 --> 0:33:38.520
<v Speaker 8>me that you should let a truck or use the restroom,

0:33:38.800 --> 0:33:41.680
<v Speaker 8>but unfortunately places don't, so we're having to try to

0:33:41.720 --> 0:33:43.440
<v Speaker 8>get a bill in Congress pass for that.

0:33:43.760 --> 0:33:45.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly, unbelievable.

0:33:45.960 --> 0:33:48.320
<v Speaker 2>Well, Louis, our time is up here, and gosh, we

0:33:48.360 --> 0:33:51.000
<v Speaker 2>gotta do this more often because there is just so much,

0:33:51.080 --> 0:33:54.080
<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's so much within this to talk about.

0:33:54.120 --> 0:33:56.600
<v Speaker 2>And then also, you know, some of this crazy stuff

0:33:56.640 --> 0:33:58.920
<v Speaker 2>is that we're seeing, as far as this English language

0:33:58.960 --> 0:34:01.720
<v Speaker 2>proficiency and the bill before Congress on that.

0:34:01.760 --> 0:34:03.640
<v Speaker 3>But again, I.

0:34:03.520 --> 0:34:06.200
<v Speaker 2>Appreciate your time, and I appreciate your patience dealing with us,

0:34:06.240 --> 0:34:09.600
<v Speaker 2>and keep up the fight, my friend, because all of

0:34:09.640 --> 0:34:12.000
<v Speaker 2>this stuff is so important, and I don't think people

0:34:12.080 --> 0:34:15.959
<v Speaker 2>appreciate the efforts that oh Ida does, and I would

0:34:16.000 --> 0:34:19.319
<v Speaker 2>encourage everybody to get behind the organization. Get go to

0:34:19.360 --> 0:34:22.160
<v Speaker 2>the website, check out where you can call, because you

0:34:22.280 --> 0:34:23.520
<v Speaker 2>need to be engaged.

0:34:23.600 --> 0:34:27.000
<v Speaker 3>You need to call your congressman. If you want stuff changed.

0:34:27.320 --> 0:34:30.480
<v Speaker 2>You've got to get Congress off this, get them off

0:34:30.480 --> 0:34:33.719
<v Speaker 2>their butts and have them pass this legislation. And the

0:34:33.760 --> 0:34:36.680
<v Speaker 2>only way they do that is that they hear from you, Louis.

0:34:36.719 --> 0:34:39.040
<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much. I appreciate your time with us today.

0:34:39.160 --> 0:34:40.719
<v Speaker 7>Thank you God, thanks for having me.

0:34:40.800 --> 0:34:43.080
<v Speaker 8>Thank you all those truckers out there and go to

0:34:43.120 --> 0:34:46.759
<v Speaker 8>Fighting for Truckers dot com and OIDA dot com and join.

0:34:47.120 --> 0:34:50.360
<v Speaker 8>The more members we have, the more grassroots you have,

0:34:50.440 --> 0:34:52.399
<v Speaker 8>the stronger we are, and the faster we can make

0:34:52.480 --> 0:34:53.600
<v Speaker 8>changes exactly.

0:34:53.800 --> 0:34:54.520
<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much.

0:34:54.640 --> 0:34:59.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm Kevin Gordon, America's Trucking Network seven hundred w LW.

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<v Speaker 4>Busted my butt trigger treating, and when I got back it,

0:35:05.239 --> 0:35:09.120
<v Speaker 4>Daddy took my stinker's. Mom took the kid cats, Grandpa

0:35:09.280 --> 0:35:13.120
<v Speaker 4>took the twicks, Grandma took the recy cumps. Mela this

0:35:13.320 --> 0:35:17.759
<v Speaker 4>candy corn and candy corneous sucks handles.

0:35:18.040 --> 0:35:21.279
<v Speaker 8>Take your hands off of your candy We're the ones

0:35:21.320 --> 0:35:22.560
<v Speaker 8>who went Dora door to.

0:35:22.520 --> 0:35:24.800
<v Speaker 10>Get this stuff and the last thing we want is

0:35:24.840 --> 0:35:26.200
<v Speaker 10>there be left one that's steaking.

0:35:26.360 --> 0:35:32.880
<v Speaker 5>Second candy hor a holiday reminder from seven hundred WL candy.

0:35:32.520 --> 0:35:36.279
<v Speaker 8>Corneious sucks run a business and not thinking about podcasting.

0:35:36.600 --> 0:35:38.839
<v Speaker 2>I was a great interview with him. I always enjoy

0:35:38.920 --> 0:35:41.120
<v Speaker 2>talking to him. There's always a lot of great information

0:35:41.200 --> 0:35:45.319
<v Speaker 2>when we talk. And I can't emphasize enough the importance

0:35:45.400 --> 0:35:49.120
<v Speaker 2>of these bills that are before Congress. And as he mentioned,

0:35:49.400 --> 0:35:53.440
<v Speaker 2>you need to check the website oh Aida working for

0:35:53.680 --> 0:35:58.160
<v Speaker 2>truckers and making sure that you are calling Congress. It

0:35:58.280 --> 0:36:02.200
<v Speaker 2>is extremely important that you call your congressman and senators

0:36:02.520 --> 0:36:05.640
<v Speaker 2>to make sure that you show your support for these bills.

0:36:05.920 --> 0:36:10.000
<v Speaker 2>That was we talked about with Louis Representative David Ross

0:36:10.360 --> 0:36:15.439
<v Speaker 2>Ross bill Non Domicile CDLs and English Language Proficiency from

0:36:15.440 --> 0:36:20.279
<v Speaker 2>Senator Roger Marshall. Now, if you call the Congress Hotline

0:36:20.480 --> 0:36:25.600
<v Speaker 2>or there what they call it Congressional Data Line, in

0:36:25.719 --> 0:36:30.239
<v Speaker 2>order to connect with your individual senators or congressman. You

0:36:30.320 --> 0:36:33.879
<v Speaker 2>call that number and it's area code to zero two

0:36:34.600 --> 0:36:38.520
<v Speaker 2>two two four three one two one. That is the

0:36:38.680 --> 0:36:43.800
<v Speaker 2>US and US House and Senate house switchboard operator to

0:36:44.160 --> 0:36:48.200
<v Speaker 2>zero two two two four three one two one, and

0:36:48.280 --> 0:36:51.399
<v Speaker 2>all you have to do is contact them, let them

0:36:51.480 --> 0:36:54.520
<v Speaker 2>know what state you're in, where you live, and they

0:36:54.520 --> 0:36:58.360
<v Speaker 2>will put you in touch with the individual congressman or

0:36:58.440 --> 0:37:01.320
<v Speaker 2>senator in your area and you can leave and be polite.

0:37:01.440 --> 0:37:04.719
<v Speaker 2>You want to make sure that you're leaving a notification

0:37:04.880 --> 0:37:08.239
<v Speaker 2>or a voice message for your congressman or senator and

0:37:08.360 --> 0:37:12.080
<v Speaker 2>letting them know that how you stand on these issues

0:37:12.120 --> 0:37:16.560
<v Speaker 2>and want them to vote to pass this legislation. Also,

0:37:16.960 --> 0:37:19.920
<v Speaker 2>make sure that you check out o IDAs Fighting for

0:37:20.040 --> 0:37:23.080
<v Speaker 2>Truckers dot com, as Louie had mentioned. And by the way,

0:37:23.120 --> 0:37:24.920
<v Speaker 2>if you miss any part of our program, if you

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<v Speaker 2>friends at Rush Truck Centers, and we certainly appreciate that. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of digging a little bit deeper into this subject

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<v Speaker 2>as far as what we were discussing with Louis because

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<v Speaker 2>there was an editorial that was put out recently by

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<v Speaker 2>Craig Fuller.

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<v Speaker 3>He is the CEO of Freight Waves.

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<v Speaker 2>And he kind of lays this out and kind of

0:37:51.760 --> 0:37:57.920
<v Speaker 2>explains because when we hear that the FMCSA back in

0:37:58.040 --> 0:38:03.040
<v Speaker 2>twenty sixteen under the Obama administration. The final days of

0:38:03.040 --> 0:38:08.880
<v Speaker 2>the Aboma administration relaxed the enforcement of the English language

0:38:08.920 --> 0:38:14.320
<v Speaker 2>Preference of English Language Proficiency regulation as far as pulling

0:38:14.360 --> 0:38:18.680
<v Speaker 2>people over and making them out of service if they

0:38:18.719 --> 0:38:21.600
<v Speaker 2>don't pass this. A lot of people have asked, well,

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<v Speaker 2>why didn't the Trump administration when they came into office

0:38:26.000 --> 0:38:29.600
<v Speaker 2>push that back. As Louis pointed out, this was a

0:38:29.680 --> 0:38:32.640
<v Speaker 2>provision that was put in there as far as non

0:38:32.719 --> 0:38:36.960
<v Speaker 2>domiciled CDLs in order to get people that in a

0:38:37.120 --> 0:38:40.239
<v Speaker 2>particular state to be able to obtain a license in

0:38:40.320 --> 0:38:43.120
<v Speaker 2>another state or be able to be allowed to drive

0:38:43.160 --> 0:38:46.920
<v Speaker 2>in other states. This was non intended to bypass the

0:38:46.960 --> 0:38:52.080
<v Speaker 2>English language proficiency. Now, even though they decreased that the

0:38:52.200 --> 0:38:54.720
<v Speaker 2>number of people out on the highway I think Louis

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<v Speaker 2>talked about was six thousand people potentially at that point

0:39:00.040 --> 0:39:03.160
<v Speaker 2>isn't a big deal and so it wasn't on the

0:39:03.280 --> 0:39:07.319
<v Speaker 2>radar screen that much. However, with the flood and the

0:39:07.360 --> 0:39:11.319
<v Speaker 2>open gates and the invasion of this country under the

0:39:11.800 --> 0:39:15.479
<v Speaker 2>Biden administration, and with some of the people being able

0:39:15.520 --> 0:39:19.160
<v Speaker 2>to get driver's license, that shouldn't have been getting driver's license.

0:39:19.400 --> 0:39:22.800
<v Speaker 2>This has become even a more serious problem. So that's

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<v Speaker 2>why back during the first Trump administration that these bills

0:39:27.280 --> 0:39:30.799
<v Speaker 2>weren't pushed through. I wish that had somehow gotten on

0:39:30.880 --> 0:39:33.400
<v Speaker 2>the radar screen and pushed through, but it certainly is

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<v Speaker 2>now now. In this editorial, American trucking industry is facing

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<v Speaker 2>unprecedented challenges, marked by a deepening economic crisis and deteriorating

0:39:42.840 --> 0:39:47.080
<v Speaker 2>highway safety standards. While supply chain disruptions during the COVID

0:39:47.239 --> 0:39:51.960
<v Speaker 2>nineteen pandemic brought attention to the transportation sector, the narrative

0:39:52.560 --> 0:39:58.040
<v Speaker 2>surrounding these issues has been largely mischaracterized, particularly regarding the

0:39:58.160 --> 0:40:03.560
<v Speaker 2>nature and extent of the p orted truck driver shortage.

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<v Speaker 2>He points out. In this background, American Trucking Associations has

0:40:07.520 --> 0:40:12.120
<v Speaker 2>consistently promoted the idea of a chronic truck driver shortage

0:40:12.160 --> 0:40:14.960
<v Speaker 2>to Congress and the public. During the height of the

0:40:15.000 --> 0:40:19.440
<v Speaker 2>COVID nineteen pandemic, when supply chains experienced a significant strain,

0:40:19.880 --> 0:40:24.760
<v Speaker 2>this narrative gained considerable traction. Responding to what was portrayed

0:40:24.800 --> 0:40:28.759
<v Speaker 2>as an urgent crisis, both states and federal governments implemented

0:40:29.000 --> 0:40:34.279
<v Speaker 2>policy changes aimed at rapidly expanding truck driver workforces. Now

0:40:34.280 --> 0:40:38.120
<v Speaker 2>he mentions in here that the measures including lower standards

0:40:38.160 --> 0:40:44.319
<v Speaker 2>and commercial driver's license qualification, relaxing training requirements, and easing restrictions.

0:40:44.600 --> 0:40:47.040
<v Speaker 2>Now he's saying that these could have been done other

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<v Speaker 2>ways than this, but it was a push to get

0:40:53.040 --> 0:40:56.040
<v Speaker 2>as many people in there, and he is faulting the

0:40:56.200 --> 0:41:01.000
<v Speaker 2>American trucking associations for allowing this to happen. Regulatory changes

0:41:01.080 --> 0:41:05.320
<v Speaker 2>had far reaching consequences that extended beyond simply increasing the

0:41:05.400 --> 0:41:09.440
<v Speaker 2>number of available drivers. The trucking industry witnessed an influx

0:41:09.520 --> 0:41:14.920
<v Speaker 2>of inadequately trained individuals, many of whom reportedly lacked proper

0:41:15.000 --> 0:41:20.280
<v Speaker 2>understanding of American road regulations and language proficiency. This situation

0:41:20.400 --> 0:41:24.239
<v Speaker 2>created a dangerous precedent. Now I mentioned that a lot

0:41:24.280 --> 0:41:26.839
<v Speaker 2>of these violations that come into play, as far as

0:41:27.600 --> 0:41:31.360
<v Speaker 2>hours of operation and operating vehicles over more than twenty

0:41:31.760 --> 0:41:35.160
<v Speaker 2>up to twenty hours per day. Freight recession has been

0:41:35.239 --> 0:41:39.960
<v Speaker 2>caused by an endless glut of capacity. Now he mentions

0:41:40.000 --> 0:41:41.759
<v Speaker 2>that there was a lot of things that were going on.

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<v Speaker 2>But as he pointed out that in order to cut

0:41:47.400 --> 0:41:51.440
<v Speaker 2>costs in order to bring down because the freight rates

0:41:51.440 --> 0:41:53.799
<v Speaker 2>were coming down and this was starting to cut into

0:41:53.800 --> 0:41:56.560
<v Speaker 2>the profitability. They had to figure out a way or

0:41:56.560 --> 0:41:59.640
<v Speaker 2>they wanted to figure out a way of lowering costs.

0:42:00.120 --> 0:42:03.920
<v Speaker 2>The big costs is driver wages. So if you can

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<v Speaker 2>get a cheaper labor force is and what we are

0:42:07.040 --> 0:42:11.040
<v Speaker 2>experiencing in the economy as it is now, with the

0:42:11.080 --> 0:42:15.200
<v Speaker 2>glut of cheap labor with a lot of these illegals

0:42:15.239 --> 0:42:18.120
<v Speaker 2>that are here in the country that will work for

0:42:18.200 --> 0:42:21.840
<v Speaker 2>less than minimum wage or at or about minimum wage,

0:42:22.840 --> 0:42:26.640
<v Speaker 2>depresses and pulls down the wages for the American people.

0:42:26.960 --> 0:42:29.960
<v Speaker 2>So the people that are in the middle class and

0:42:30.000 --> 0:42:32.960
<v Speaker 2>the people that would normally have those jobs, those are

0:42:33.000 --> 0:42:36.560
<v Speaker 2>being dragged down. And we're basically having an economy now

0:42:36.719 --> 0:42:39.400
<v Speaker 2>where we've seen more and more of where it's a

0:42:39.440 --> 0:42:43.040
<v Speaker 2>squeeze squeezing out the middle class and that you're left

0:42:43.120 --> 0:42:47.120
<v Speaker 2>with just lower class and upper class in your economy.

0:42:47.480 --> 0:42:49.719
<v Speaker 2>You need all three classes in order to be a

0:42:49.760 --> 0:42:53.799
<v Speaker 2>successful country and in order to have an adequate workforce,

0:42:54.080 --> 0:42:58.080
<v Speaker 2>because generally, if businesses are expanding, you can have the

0:42:58.120 --> 0:43:01.440
<v Speaker 2>opportunity of hiring people which pull people out of the

0:43:01.520 --> 0:43:06.040
<v Speaker 2>lower class lower incomes into the middle class and middle

0:43:06.080 --> 0:43:09.799
<v Speaker 2>class wages. But when you have an influx of illegals

0:43:09.920 --> 0:43:13.479
<v Speaker 2>that are willing to work and being hired less than

0:43:13.800 --> 0:43:16.560
<v Speaker 2>what the normal wages are, that is going to have

0:43:16.640 --> 0:43:20.359
<v Speaker 2>the effect of depressing those wages and keeping the workforce down.

0:43:21.719 --> 0:43:26.879
<v Speaker 2>To sacrifice profitability or make sure that your profitability is

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<v Speaker 2>up at the expense of safety is one of the

0:43:29.760 --> 0:43:33.239
<v Speaker 2>things that Craig Fuller is talking about in here. What

0:43:33.320 --> 0:43:36.400
<v Speaker 2>has followed has been described as a great freight recession,

0:43:37.080 --> 0:43:40.320
<v Speaker 2>characterized as a most severe economic downturn of the freight

0:43:40.440 --> 0:43:44.600
<v Speaker 2>industry has ever experienced. Yes, this freight recession has gone

0:43:44.640 --> 0:43:47.440
<v Speaker 2>on now for more than three years, and normally these

0:43:47.480 --> 0:43:50.319
<v Speaker 2>freight recesses, and you folks in the trucking industry, you've

0:43:50.360 --> 0:43:54.320
<v Speaker 2>seen this before. You've seen situations where the trucking recession

0:43:54.360 --> 0:43:58.440
<v Speaker 2>has gone on and where you've had different times of

0:43:58.480 --> 0:44:01.799
<v Speaker 2>where freight rates have been down, freight rates have been up,

0:44:01.840 --> 0:44:04.160
<v Speaker 2>and you've seen how these have ebbed and flowed over

0:44:04.200 --> 0:44:06.560
<v Speaker 2>the years. And generally, if they are going to last,

0:44:06.560 --> 0:44:08.600
<v Speaker 2>they're only going to last for about I think the

0:44:08.640 --> 0:44:11.440
<v Speaker 2>average is what I was seeing was somewhere between twelve

0:44:11.480 --> 0:44:14.719
<v Speaker 2>and fourteen months. We are now into the third year

0:44:14.920 --> 0:44:19.799
<v Speaker 2>of this great recession. Also, he points out here in

0:44:19.840 --> 0:44:22.360
<v Speaker 2>his editorial, and I'm going to put this on Facebook

0:44:22.400 --> 0:44:24.440
<v Speaker 2>because this is extremely important.

0:44:24.880 --> 0:44:27.319
<v Speaker 3>Craig Fuller, CEO of Freight Waves.

0:44:27.680 --> 0:44:31.279
<v Speaker 2>Family owned trucking firms have been wiped out because they

0:44:31.280 --> 0:44:38.640
<v Speaker 2>can't compete. ATA is under claiming that ATA is basically.

0:44:38.239 --> 0:44:39.600
<v Speaker 3>Undermining their members.

0:44:40.040 --> 0:44:43.360
<v Speaker 2>Members joined the American Trucking Associations in order to be

0:44:43.440 --> 0:44:45.600
<v Speaker 2>part of a group of a group that is going

0:44:45.640 --> 0:44:49.439
<v Speaker 2>to be fighting for their rights and promoting business practices

0:44:49.600 --> 0:44:53.160
<v Speaker 2>that support them and help them in their industry. And

0:44:53.200 --> 0:44:58.160
<v Speaker 2>what the ATA has been doing by import by allowing

0:44:58.440 --> 0:45:02.480
<v Speaker 2>or pushing for or allowing these companies to push for

0:45:02.800 --> 0:45:06.359
<v Speaker 2>lower wages, and some of the regulations that were not

0:45:06.400 --> 0:45:09.080
<v Speaker 2>being enforced, and some of the lacks that was being

0:45:09.160 --> 0:45:14.640
<v Speaker 2>done as far as the actual issuing of these CDLs

0:45:14.800 --> 0:45:18.360
<v Speaker 2>has actually hurt their membership. And he's very adamant on that.

0:45:18.560 --> 0:45:20.560
<v Speaker 2>And this isn't the first time I've heard this being

0:45:20.600 --> 0:45:23.600
<v Speaker 2>discussed and the first time I've heard this being talked about,

0:45:23.880 --> 0:45:26.239
<v Speaker 2>and so this is definitely something that has to be

0:45:26.280 --> 0:45:28.960
<v Speaker 2>looked at. Now we're not going to have obviously a

0:45:29.040 --> 0:45:31.600
<v Speaker 2>chance to get to it today. But one of the

0:45:31.640 --> 0:45:34.320
<v Speaker 2>things that has been pointed out is how the actual

0:45:34.400 --> 0:45:38.600
<v Speaker 2>process of illegal aliens are getting CDLs in the United States,

0:45:39.160 --> 0:45:43.400
<v Speaker 2>and some of the discussions where California is claiming that

0:45:43.480 --> 0:45:48.680
<v Speaker 2>they are actually in within the regulations, that they're following

0:45:48.719 --> 0:45:54.120
<v Speaker 2>the regulations, their arguments quite honestly don't meet the standards.

0:45:54.360 --> 0:45:59.120
<v Speaker 2>If they're claiming that they enforce the English language proficiency,

0:46:00.120 --> 0:46:03.440
<v Speaker 2>how is somebody getting a driver's license. As we saw

0:46:04.239 --> 0:46:07.280
<v Speaker 2>the accident in Florida and then the accident in southern

0:46:07.320 --> 0:46:11.240
<v Speaker 2>California that the driver of both of those vehicles couldn't

0:46:11.239 --> 0:46:14.520
<v Speaker 2>speak English. So if they say that they're not issuing

0:46:15.480 --> 0:46:19.560
<v Speaker 2>licenses to people that can't pass the English language proficiency,

0:46:19.920 --> 0:46:22.879
<v Speaker 2>how did they get a license? That's a simple question. Well, folks,

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<v Speaker 2>we're up against clock here. Stay tuned for Red Eye

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<v Speaker 2>Radio at the.

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<v Speaker 3>Top the hour.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Kevin Gordon, America's Truck and Network seven hundred WL