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Speaker 1: This is America's Trucking Network with Kevin Gordon.

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Speaker 2: Welcome board, Thanks for tuning in on this final day

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Speaker 2: of October. Happy Halloween to each and every one of you. Tonight,

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Speaker 2: in a lot of places, the trick or treaters are

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Speaker 2: going to be out there, and so let's be careful

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Speaker 2: out there because these kids on Halloween, they're more interested

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Speaker 2: in getting the candy than paying attention to traffic. And

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Speaker 2: so if you're in a particular neighborhood, be aware the

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Speaker 2: kids may be darting out in traffic. And let's have

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Speaker 2: a very safe Halloween and trick or treat. What is

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Speaker 2: really scary, especially as far as the Halloween Melissa, the

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Speaker 2: hurricane Melissa is still wreaking havoc down on the Caribbean.

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Speaker 2: Looking at some of the pictures from Jamaica and the

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Speaker 2: film reports of people being able to get in there

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Speaker 2: and the absolute devastation radible down there, and it's going

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Speaker 2: to be a long time till they recover. Currently, Melissa

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Speaker 2: is over Bermuda, and of course we'll get more information

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Speaker 2: on that as it passes. But what we're also seeing

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Speaker 2: is that on the in the upper Northeastern area, we're

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Speaker 2: getting on a lot of rain and it's an unusual

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Speaker 2: strug Well, actually it's the outlying area of the storm

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Speaker 2: from Melissa, because normally the weather, if you know, we

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Speaker 2: get weather from the north and northwest, west and northwest,

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Speaker 2: i should say, and this storm is actually coming from

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Speaker 2: the northeast and the east, which is unusual. And so

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Speaker 2: they're getting an awful lot of rain in the northeastern

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Speaker 2: and along the coast of the Atlantic coast. So if

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Speaker 2: you're in the area there, be aware that the that

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Speaker 2: the weather is going to be very rainy and windy,

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Speaker 2: and be careful out there.

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Speaker 3: Again, getting home is job one.

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Speaker 2: So if you see any conditions that are different than

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Speaker 2: what is being told about or talked about on your

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Speaker 2: weather app or weathermen or whatever you're listening, to make

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Speaker 2: sure you let the people behind you know if you're

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Speaker 2: encountering something that's unusual, and hopefully the people in front

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Speaker 2: of you will let you know. Because there's an awful

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Speaker 2: lot of wind and a lawful lot of rain. Now

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Speaker 2: they're talking about in certain areas that they're experiencing fifty

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Speaker 2: sixty mile an hour winds now. Once you get up

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Speaker 2: above fifty five miles an hour, that is technically hurricane conditioned,

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Speaker 2: so they are still even though they're on the outside

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Speaker 2: because Melissa currently on its track is heading north east

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Speaker 2: away from the coast of the United States and Canada.

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Speaker 2: But the outlying storms as a result of that is

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Speaker 2: what's causing a lot of wind and rain. So technically

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Speaker 2: they're not in a hurricane area there, but the winds

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Speaker 2: are awfully high. We did see and we mentioned yesterday

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Speaker 2: that there's been I think up to now five structures

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Speaker 2: buck Buck what is it, Buxton, South Carolina, where these

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Speaker 2: and they're on these stilts, which is supposed to take

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Speaker 2: care of any of the waves and also the high tides,

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Speaker 2: low tides and so on. But with these winds coming

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Speaker 2: stilts and these houses have collapsed. So it's up to

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Speaker 2: five now currently. We had twelve structures that were destroyed

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Speaker 2: President Trump wrapped up his week long visit. I guess

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Speaker 2: Asia trip is what they're week long Asia trip, I

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Speaker 2: tremendous success. Of course, the spoon fed regurgitators in the

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Speaker 2: mainstream media aren't going to talk about it very much

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Speaker 2: welcomed in Malaysia, in Japan, in South Korea, how they

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Speaker 2: the way that the new prime minister from Japan, and

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Speaker 2: The Prime Minister, SHANEI. Takiyachi is her name.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: Not only was she exuberant being on stage with President

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Speaker 2: Today and the spoonfeeder regurgitators of the mainstream media, they'll

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Speaker 2: deal with. The headline says trade deals, pageantry and nuke's

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Speaker 2: seven takeaways from Trump's Trump's trip to Asia in their

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Speaker 2: sub headline, Trump's week long trip to Malaysia, Japan and

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Speaker 2: backdrop of government shutdown at home that threaten to become

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Speaker 2: the longest heir ever. And of course they don't mention

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Speaker 2: that it's the Schumer shutdown. They don't mention that it's

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Speaker 2: the Democrats holding this up. There is a recording of

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Speaker 2: one of the Democratic senators talking about that, yes, people

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Speaker 2: they have to do again what they did back in March.

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Speaker 2: They signed this continuing resolution that kept things going, kept

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Speaker 2: there's this clean resolution that's there.

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Speaker 3: Been sitting on the table.

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Speaker 2: They have voted on it thirteen times, the Democrats have

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Speaker 2: voted against it thirteen times, and they are still shutting

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Speaker 2: one point five trillion dollars in additional spending above and

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Speaker 2: beyond what this clean resolution is.

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Speaker 3: And that's not the way you do things in Washington.

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Speaker 2: And they are going to pay a tremendous price for

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Speaker 2: this because people are not buying into the crap that

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Speaker 2: that even though the spoon fed regurgitators in the mainstream

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Speaker 2: than what they would hope them to have. Trump reduced

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Speaker 2: a China tariffs that he met with the jijingping there

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Speaker 2: There's going to be a lowering of teriffs in exchange

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Speaker 2: South Korea tariffs in exchange for US investment. Trump also announced,

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Speaker 2: Now in this story, they said, announce the resumption of

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Speaker 2: nuclear weapons testing, and they go into this whole scenario

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Speaker 3: However, what they failed to.

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Speaker 2: Mention is the fact that Vladimir Putin has decided that

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Speaker 2: And again is Phil Flynn points out in his Energy Report,

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Speaker 2: Russian President Vladimir Putin made a mistake by unintentionally starting

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Speaker 2: a new arms race.

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Speaker 3: US afree tested.

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Speaker 2: A new nuclear capable, nuclear powered, long range remote torpedo

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Speaker 2: with him doing that, Trump is indicated that he's going

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Speaker 2: to balance that off and renew nuclear testing on the

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Speaker 2: he's been very reluctant to do any testing as far

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Speaker 2: going to amp this up, of course we're going to

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Speaker 2: amp it up. Also coming up, we're going to be

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Speaker 2: talking to Louis Pugh. I want to mention that real quick.

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Speaker 2: We're going to be talking about, of course, Louis Pugh,

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Speaker 2: executive vice president of oh IDA Owner Operator Independent Drivers Association.

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Speaker 2: We're going to be talking about a couple of pieces

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Speaker 2: of legislation pending before Congress, the Non Domicile CDLs and

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Speaker 2: English Language proficiency.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of things.

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Speaker 2: Going on in this and one, you know, I don't

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Speaker 2: going to go as long as we can because there's

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Speaker 2: a lot of issues here and a lot of things

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Speaker 2: that's not getting accurately reported in the media. But we'll

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Speaker 2: get to all that coming up. I'm Kevin Gordon, America's

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Speaker 2: Trucking Network, seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 4: I need.

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Speaker 1: This is the briefing reward on America's Trucking Network on

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Speaker 5: The Infinity Series Champion will be crowned Saturday night in Phoenix.

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Speaker 5: Connors Zilich, Carson Gwaffle, also Justin Algeyer and Jesse Love

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Speaker 5: are in the Ecinity Final four. Danny Hamlin, who will

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Speaker 5: run for the Cup Series twenty twenty five titles Sunday

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Speaker 5: on Dirty Wild media on his pick for the Exfinity champ.

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Speaker 6: The seven car last year was very, very dominant. You

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Speaker 6: gotta think he's going to be pretty tough again, But

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Speaker 6: you also got the eighty eight.

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Speaker 3: I think it's still going to be a close one.

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Speaker 6: Justin's experience at Phoenix will counter whatever success the eighty

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Speaker 6: eight has had throughout the season, and so I think

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Speaker 6: that's going to be a one A one B type

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Speaker 6: of race, and then Jesse will be right there near them,

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Speaker 6: and then Carson is going to need to find some speed.

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Speaker 6: Who's your pick? Then I'll give the nod to Justin.

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Speaker 6: His car is going to be just as prepared as

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Speaker 6: the eighty eight. He's not going to get beat on equipment.

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Speaker 3: Remember last year all the mistakes he had and to

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Speaker 3: still come backing. Yeah, they're lightning fast. Justin's my pick.

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Speaker 5: Sam Meyer has been suspended by NASCAR from Saturday's Exfinity

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Speaker 5: Series race at Phoenix after wrecking Jeb Burton on the

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Speaker 5: cool down lap last weekend at Martinsville. Colleague Racing will

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Speaker 5: pause its Exfinity Series program for the twenty twenty sixth season.

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Speaker 5: Since debuting in the series full time in twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 5: colleague has won twenty seven races and ten seasons, including

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Speaker 5: a pair of regular season championships from aj Allmendinger in

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Speaker 5: twenty twenty one and twenty two.

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Speaker 1: This is the racing report on America's Trucking Network on

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Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW, Say Dennis the reporting.

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Speaker 3: For a t N on the podcast Health Stuff. We

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Speaker 3: are tackling all the health questions that keep you up

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Speaker 2: I'm Kevin Gordon, America's Trucking Network, seven hundred WLW. I

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Speaker 2: want to welcome back to the friend of the show. Been

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Speaker 2: on this show a couple of times, a good friend

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Speaker 2: of the show. Louis Pugh, Executive vice president oh IDA,

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Speaker 2: owner Operator, Independent Drivers Association.

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Speaker 3: Louis, how are you welcome back to the program.

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Speaker 7: Hey, it's good to be on your program. It's good

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Speaker 7: to be back on here again.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, It's always a pleasure having you.

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Speaker 2: There's been a lot of things that have happened since

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Speaker 2: the last time we talked. One of the issues we

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Speaker 2: talked about back then was the English language proficiency issue,

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Speaker 2: and that has really come into the forefront now. But

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Speaker 2: also one of the things that has also crept up

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Speaker 2: as this non domicile worker. So I think non domicile CDLs.

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Speaker 2: So let's begin with that and kind of give us

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Speaker 2: a background on this and what's going on. I understand

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Speaker 2: there's a couple of bills before Congress, one on the

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Speaker 2: ELP and the other one on non domicille CDLs, so

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Speaker 2: kind of bring us up to speed on all that.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, it's you're right.

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Speaker 8: There's been a lot of talk, especially this year with

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Speaker 7: We've never had a driver shortage. But it's all to

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Speaker 7: Name of driver shortage.

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Speaker 8: Correct, Yeah, correct, I mean trucking salaries for truck drivers

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Speaker 7: All this stuff is for cheap labor.

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Speaker 2: Now, as far as a non domicilet is concerned, if

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Speaker 9: Correct, well, yes and no kind of now right now,

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Speaker 8: You are correct. You could be here, you have to

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Speaker 7: F and CSA stepped in put.

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Speaker 8: This IFR out to where this has to be. So really,

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Speaker 9: Since two thousand and nine till now, so that's hardly anybody,

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Speaker 2: What we've seen though is that some of these people

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Speaker 8: Until this i f R came out in September, you're

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Speaker 8: Correct, you are correct, and that's the way it was

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Speaker 12: Sports Joe Flacco gets in a limited practice Thursday. Bengals

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Speaker 13: From the rest of the country, and the try suit

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Speaker 13: overnight will dry out up your rain. The past two

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Speaker 13: days partly cloudy, the load down to thirty nine, mostly

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Speaker 13: sunny both Friday and Saturday, highs topound in the upper fifties.

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Speaker 13: A chance of really rain Sunday, otherwise mostly a HI

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Speaker 13: fifty seven. Nationally, heavy rainfall expected to continue into FODI

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Speaker 13: for upstate New York and the New England states. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 13: heavy rain will be seen over the Northwest on Halloween

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Speaker 13: and in two Saturday trick or treating will also be

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Speaker 13: what for the Upper Mississippi Valley. Below average temperature is

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Speaker 13: expected across areas east of the Rockies, while above average

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Speaker 13: temperatures are forecasts from the Rockies to the west Coast.

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Speaker 2: Seven hundred is wlw IM Kevin Gordon. This is America's

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Speaker 2: trucking Network. Continuing our conversation with Louis Pugh, Executive vice

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Speaker 2: president o AIDA, Owner Operator Independent Drivers Association. Before the break, Louis,

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Speaker 2: we were talking about this IFR Interim final rule. Now,

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Speaker 2: this is a mandate or a rule put in by

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Speaker 2: the Department of Transportation, and as I understand this, it

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Speaker 2: is something that well, all right, this is like an

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Speaker 2: executive order at this point. With a new administration, this

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Speaker 2: could change or it could be well probably more relaxed

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Speaker 2: or whatever. So there is no need by Congress to

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Speaker 2: step in here and codify a law that allows us

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Speaker 2: to continue beyond any administration, which is right for the

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Speaker 2: trucking industry.

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Speaker 3: Correct? Do I have that right?

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Speaker 7: You are a hundred correct, Gordon.

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Speaker 2: Now, Congressman David Rouser introduced this bill.

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Speaker 3: Talk about this bill and what it does.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, well, and again it's a misinformation out there and

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Speaker 8: there's a few cisal media people going crazy and stuff

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Speaker 8: like that.

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Speaker 2: All that that doesn't happen. Come on, you people on

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Speaker 2: social media. They don't lie and misrepresent stuff.

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Speaker 3: Come on.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, right, Well anyway says it makes lots of

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Speaker 8: people experts, Yes, anyway, but what what what I know?

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Speaker 8: What what it does is all the Rouser Bill does

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Speaker 8: is it codifies the the i f R that was

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Speaker 8: put out by the Trump administration and Duffy, which was

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Speaker 8: That's why I find this fascinating because the people who

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Speaker 8: are now picking on the Rouser Bill, when this came

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Speaker 8: out from.

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Speaker 7: DOOT, they were celebrating.

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Speaker 8: They were all happy about it. And we need this

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Speaker 8: bill to pass.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I can't.

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Speaker 8: You gotta remind people Congressman Rouser is actually the chair

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Speaker 8: of the Highway Transit Subcommittee and the House T and.

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Speaker 7: I, so he's the guy.

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Speaker 8: That kind of is where trucking bills are gonna He's

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Speaker 8: gonna have to check off and it's his bills. So

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Speaker 8: this bill is the one that probably stands the best chance.

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Speaker 7: Of moving forward.

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Speaker 8: But again, his bill does nothing more than make it

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Speaker 8: a law, which what the FMCSA and DT made a rule.

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Speaker 8: They would make that rule of permanent law and a

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Speaker 8: good thing. Like you said, then another administration comes in,

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Speaker 8: they just can't roll it back. It would take a

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Speaker 8: congression out of Congress to move to change the law.

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Speaker 7: I was just get's like the eleds for folks out there.

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Speaker 7: We got elds. The only way you ever get rid

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Speaker 7: of eods.

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Speaker 8: It takes a act of Congress because it was mandated

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Speaker 8: by Congress in the first place.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we're speaking with Louis Pugh, Executive Vice President ADA.

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Speaker 2: Now this is a great point and people need to

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Speaker 2: get behind this. So they need I guess once again,

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Speaker 2: we got to put the call out to people to

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Speaker 2: call their congressmen, their senators and get them on board

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Speaker 2: with this because otherwise this, as we saw with all

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Speaker 2: so many other pieces of legislation that we've seen over

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Speaker 2: the years, it just gets stuck in Congress, gets turned

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Speaker 2: in the bin and never gets to the house floor.

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Speaker 2: You know, sits on the present, you know, sits in Congress,

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Speaker 2: sits in the Senate, never goes forward and so on.

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Speaker 2: So I guess the pressure has to come from the people,

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Speaker 2: because again with the different accidents that we've seen, the

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Speaker 2: fatalities that we've seen, the fact that we don't have

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Speaker 2: a driver shortage, which you know, is creating a problem

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Speaker 2: as far as depressing the wages, having an overcapacity, and

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Speaker 2: having people on the road that necessarily aren't trained properly

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Speaker 2: in order to drive this eighty thousand pound vehicle. This

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Speaker 2: would basically make our roads safer. And you would think

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Speaker 2: that people would be interested in making our roads safer.

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Speaker 7: Well, you would think so. I mean, that's the thing

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Speaker 7: I tell people. All these bad rules and regulations.

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Speaker 8: And all these bad things that's been passed due to drivers. Yes,

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Speaker 8: we're paying for this on America's highways. And we've seen

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Speaker 8: that tenfold here lately with these accidents where the guy

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Speaker 8: made the turn in Florida and then what happened down

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Speaker 8: here in California, and.

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Speaker 7: You know, and it's just real sad. I mean, that's

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Speaker 7: a sad thing. About these folks. They should have never got.

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Speaker 8: Behind the wee overtruck in the first place, because they

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Speaker 8: should have never gotten through training.

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Speaker 2: Right now, we have this two pronged issue that people

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Speaker 2: that have been in the news a lot, the English

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Speaker 2: language proficiency and this non domiciled worker. And I think,

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Speaker 2: in my opinion, it seems that the emphasis should be

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Speaker 2: on the non domiciled workers because those probably are the

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Speaker 2: people that aren't passing the English proficiency. So if we

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Speaker 2: cut that off, then we don't it just kind of

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Speaker 2: like a chicken and the egg type of thing. I

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Speaker 2: think we need to start with the non domiciled workers

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Speaker 2: first and then make sure that we're making sure that

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Speaker 2: those English language proficiency, which is which well that was

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Speaker 2: already in the law, and that's already been passed by Congress,

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Speaker 2: which was ignored from twenty sixteen on.

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Speaker 3: Correct.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, unfortunately, I guess you wouldn't say it's ignored.

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Speaker 7: It was. There was still a violation, and you're right,

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Speaker 7: it has a law English science proficiency.

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Speaker 8: We shouldn't even be having to talk about it because

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Speaker 8: it should have never been a problem in the first place. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 8: there's not strict enough training standards out here, not strict

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Speaker 8: enough checks and balances.

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Speaker 7: In the training for truckers, and.

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Speaker 8: Unfortunately, there's been a lot of less than a rep

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Speaker 8: veritable trucking schools that come out here and they training

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Speaker 8: these people when they have their third party testers and

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Speaker 8: they get them their cdo and they're when they're not

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Speaker 8: capable of speaking our language well enough to.

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Speaker 7: Drive a truck. And that's what's caused all this. But

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Speaker 7: you are correct. From twenty sixteen until till June of.

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Speaker 8: Twenty twenty five of this year, they took it out

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Speaker 8: of the out of service. It was still a violation,

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Speaker 8: and states were still writing the violation.

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Speaker 7: But it was just a violation and the trucker could

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Speaker 7: go on down the road. A lot of.

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Speaker 8: Thankfully and successfully we petitioned CVSA and was successful.

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Speaker 7: In that to get this put back.

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Speaker 8: Into the out of service under the pretext that they

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Speaker 8: can't read the road signs and they can't read the.

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Speaker 7: Electric messaging boards.

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Speaker 8: Because the reason they got throwed out in the first

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Speaker 8: place was they said, well, they can still communicate with

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Speaker 8: folks through you know, these translating services or their cell

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Speaker 8: phone and stuff like that. Well that's the thing I

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Speaker 8: helpe you read a sign or read electric TRUSTe board.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's great.

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Speaker 2: So we tell the drive public who are driving a

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Speaker 2: Mini Coopers or small Sedans or that type of thing,

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Speaker 2: no texting and driving. But we can tell somebody that

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Speaker 2: can't speak the English language, Oh, just do the app

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Speaker 2: on your phone and do the translation that way while

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Speaker 2: you're driving an eighty thousand pound vehicle.

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Speaker 3: No texting and.

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Speaker 8: Driving supposed rather driving.

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Speaker 7: But I'm not saying it exactly.

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Speaker 2: So it's just, you know, it's one of those things

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Speaker 2: where you would think that something in your wildest dreams.

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Speaker 2: I don't think you could ever have imagined, Louis Pugh,

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Speaker 2: that you would have a necessary for a law that

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Speaker 2: says in order to drive on the highway you have

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Speaker 2: to be able to read the signs and be proficient

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Speaker 2: in the language in order to communicate with people. You

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Speaker 2: would think that that is a given, but apparently you

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Speaker 2: have to spell this out and then out to fight

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Speaker 2: it in a law, which is insanity in my opinion.

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Speaker 7: Well, yeah, common sense got checked at.

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Speaker 8: The door now, and you're right about that, and I'm

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Speaker 8: with you, Gordon.

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Speaker 7: You wouldn't think.

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Speaker 8: We'd have to do that, This would be this hard

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Speaker 8: and you wouldn't think there'd be people against it, You

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Speaker 8: wouldn't think there's been people for it. Yeah, but unfortunately

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Speaker 8: it's all driven again, a lot of this stuff, most

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Speaker 8: of the stuff, it falls back to this whole bull

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Speaker 8: crap of a driver shortage narrative. If we wouldn't be

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Speaker 8: have been pushing out for the last forty years, we

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Speaker 8: probably wouldn't be having a discussion on some of these

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Speaker 8: things we're having. I mean, it's pretty common sense to

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Speaker 8: me that you should let a truck or use the restroom,

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Speaker 8: but unfortunately places don't, so we're having to try to

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Speaker 8: get a bill in Congress pass for that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: Well, Louis, our time is up here, and gosh, we

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Speaker 2: gotta do this more often because there is just so much,

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's so much within this to talk about.

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Speaker 2: And then also, you know, some of this crazy stuff

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Speaker 2: is that we're seeing, as far as this English language

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Speaker 2: proficiency and the bill before Congress on that.

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Speaker 3: But again, I.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate your time, and I appreciate your patience dealing with us,

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Speaker 2: and keep up the fight, my friend, because all of

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Speaker 2: this stuff is so important, and I don't think people

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Speaker 2: appreciate the efforts that oh Ida does, and I would

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Speaker 2: encourage everybody to get behind the organization. Get go to

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Speaker 2: the website, check out where you can call, because you

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Speaker 2: need to be engaged.

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Speaker 3: You need to call your congressman. If you want stuff changed.

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Speaker 2: You've got to get Congress off this, get them off

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Speaker 2: their butts and have them pass this legislation. And the

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Speaker 2: only way they do that is that they hear from you, Louis.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much. I appreciate your time with us today.

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Speaker 7: Thank you God, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 8: Thank you all those truckers out there and go to

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Speaker 8: Fighting for Truckers dot com and OIDA dot com and join.

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00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 8: The more members we have, the more grassroots you have,

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Speaker 8: the stronger we are, and the faster we can make

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Speaker 8: changes exactly.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: I'm Kevin Gordon, America's Trucking Network seven hundred w LW.

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Speaker 4: Busted my butt trigger treating, and when I got back it,

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Speaker 4: Daddy took my stinker's. Mom took the kid cats, Grandpa

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Speaker 4: took the twicks, Grandma took the recy cumps. Mela this

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Speaker 4: candy corn and candy corneous sucks handles.

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Speaker 8: Take your hands off of your candy We're the ones

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Speaker 8: who went Dora door to.

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Speaker 10: Get this stuff and the last thing we want is

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Speaker 10: there be left one that's steaking.

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Speaker 5: Second candy hor a holiday reminder from seven hundred WL candy.

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Speaker 8: Corneious sucks run a business and not thinking about podcasting.

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Speaker 2: I was a great interview with him. I always enjoy

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Speaker 2: talking to him. There's always a lot of great information

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Speaker 2: when we talk. And I can't emphasize enough the importance

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Speaker 2: of these bills that are before Congress. And as he mentioned,

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Speaker 2: you need to check the website oh Aida working for

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Speaker 2: truckers and making sure that you are calling Congress. It

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Speaker 2: is extremely important that you call your congressman and senators

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Speaker 2: to make sure that you show your support for these bills.

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Speaker 2: That was we talked about with Louis Representative David Ross

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Speaker 2: Ross bill Non Domicile CDLs and English Language Proficiency from

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Speaker 2: Senator Roger Marshall. Now, if you call the Congress Hotline

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Speaker 2: or there what they call it Congressional Data Line, in

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Speaker 2: order to connect with your individual senators or congressman. You

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Speaker 2: call that number and it's area code to zero two

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Speaker 2: two two four three one two one. That is the

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Speaker 2: US and US House and Senate house switchboard operator to

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Speaker 2: zero two two two four three one two one, and

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Speaker 2: all you have to do is contact them, let them

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Speaker 2: know what state you're in, where you live, and they

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Speaker 2: will put you in touch with the individual congressman or

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Speaker 2: senator in your area and you can leave and be polite.

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Speaker 2: You want to make sure that you're leaving a notification

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Speaker 2: or a voice message for your congressman or senator and

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Speaker 2: letting them know that how you stand on these issues

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Speaker 2: and want them to vote to pass this legislation. Also,

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Speaker 2: make sure that you check out o IDAs Fighting for

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Speaker 2: Truckers dot com, as Louie had mentioned. And by the way,

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Speaker 2: if you miss any part of our program, if you

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Speaker 2: miss any of our shows, make sure you hit up

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Speaker 2: that iHeartRadio app. Of course that's brought to you buyer

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Speaker 2: friends at Rush Truck Centers, and we certainly appreciate that. Now,

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Speaker 2: kind of digging a little bit deeper into this subject

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Speaker 2: as far as what we were discussing with Louis because

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Speaker 2: there was an editorial that was put out recently by

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Speaker 2: Craig Fuller.

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Speaker 3: He is the CEO of Freight Waves.

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Speaker 2: And he kind of lays this out and kind of

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Speaker 2: explains because when we hear that the FMCSA back in

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Speaker 2: twenty sixteen under the Obama administration. The final days of

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Speaker 2: the Aboma administration relaxed the enforcement of the English language

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Speaker 2: Preference of English Language Proficiency regulation as far as pulling

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Speaker 2: people over and making them out of service if they

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Speaker 2: don't pass this. A lot of people have asked, well,

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Speaker 2: why didn't the Trump administration when they came into office

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Speaker 2: push that back. As Louis pointed out, this was a

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Speaker 2: provision that was put in there as far as non

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Speaker 2: domiciled CDLs in order to get people that in a

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Speaker 2: particular state to be able to obtain a license in

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Speaker 2: another state or be able to be allowed to drive

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Speaker 2: in other states. This was non intended to bypass the

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Speaker 2: English language proficiency. Now, even though they decreased that the

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Speaker 2: number of people out on the highway I think Louis

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Speaker 2: talked about was six thousand people potentially at that point

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Speaker 2: isn't a big deal and so it wasn't on the

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Speaker 2: radar screen that much. However, with the flood and the

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Speaker 2: open gates and the invasion of this country under the

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Speaker 2: Biden administration, and with some of the people being able

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Speaker 2: to get driver's license, that shouldn't have been getting driver's license.

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Speaker 2: This has become even a more serious problem. So that's

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Speaker 2: why back during the first Trump administration that these bills

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Speaker 2: weren't pushed through. I wish that had somehow gotten on

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Speaker 2: the radar screen and pushed through, but it certainly is

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Speaker 2: now now. In this editorial, American trucking industry is facing

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Speaker 2: unprecedented challenges, marked by a deepening economic crisis and deteriorating

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Speaker 2: highway safety standards. While supply chain disruptions during the COVID

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Speaker 2: nineteen pandemic brought attention to the transportation sector, the narrative

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Speaker 2: surrounding these issues has been largely mischaracterized, particularly regarding the

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Speaker 2: nature and extent of the p orted truck driver shortage.

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Speaker 2: He points out. In this background, American Trucking Associations has

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Speaker 2: consistently promoted the idea of a chronic truck driver shortage

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Speaker 2: to Congress and the public. During the height of the

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Speaker 2: COVID nineteen pandemic, when supply chains experienced a significant strain,

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Speaker 2: this narrative gained considerable traction. Responding to what was portrayed

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Speaker 2: as an urgent crisis, both states and federal governments implemented

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Speaker 2: policy changes aimed at rapidly expanding truck driver workforces. Now

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Speaker 2: he mentions in here that the measures including lower standards

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Speaker 2: and commercial driver's license qualification, relaxing training requirements, and easing restrictions.

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Speaker 2: Now he's saying that these could have been done other

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Speaker 2: ways than this, but it was a push to get

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Speaker 2: as many people in there, and he is faulting the

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Speaker 2: American trucking associations for allowing this to happen. Regulatory changes

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Speaker 2: had far reaching consequences that extended beyond simply increasing the

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Speaker 2: number of available drivers. The trucking industry witnessed an influx

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Speaker 2: of inadequately trained individuals, many of whom reportedly lacked proper

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Speaker 2: understanding of American road regulations and language proficiency. This situation

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Speaker 2: created a dangerous precedent. Now I mentioned that a lot

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Speaker 2: of these violations that come into play, as far as

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Speaker 2: hours of operation and operating vehicles over more than twenty

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Speaker 2: up to twenty hours per day. Freight recession has been

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Speaker 2: caused by an endless glut of capacity. Now he mentions

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Speaker 2: that there was a lot of things that were going on.

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Speaker 2: But as he pointed out that in order to cut

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Speaker 2: costs in order to bring down because the freight rates

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Speaker 2: were coming down and this was starting to cut into

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Speaker 2: the profitability. They had to figure out a way or

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Speaker 2: they wanted to figure out a way of lowering costs.

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Speaker 2: The big costs is driver wages. So if you can

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Speaker 2: get a cheaper labor force is and what we are

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Speaker 2: experiencing in the economy as it is now, with the

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Speaker 2: glut of cheap labor with a lot of these illegals

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Speaker 2: that are here in the country that will work for

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Speaker 2: less than minimum wage or at or about minimum wage,

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Speaker 2: depresses and pulls down the wages for the American people.

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Speaker 2: So the people that are in the middle class and

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Speaker 2: the people that would normally have those jobs, those are

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Speaker 2: being dragged down. And we're basically having an economy now

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Speaker 2: where we've seen more and more of where it's a

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Speaker 2: squeeze squeezing out the middle class and that you're left

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Speaker 2: with just lower class and upper class in your economy.

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Speaker 2: You need all three classes in order to be a

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Speaker 2: successful country and in order to have an adequate workforce,

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Speaker 2: because generally, if businesses are expanding, you can have the

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Speaker 2: opportunity of hiring people which pull people out of the

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Speaker 2: lower class lower incomes into the middle class and middle

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Speaker 2: class wages. But when you have an influx of illegals

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Speaker 2: that are willing to work and being hired less than

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Speaker 2: what the normal wages are, that is going to have

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Speaker 2: the effect of depressing those wages and keeping the workforce down.

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Speaker 2: To sacrifice profitability or make sure that your profitability is

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Speaker 2: up at the expense of safety is one of the

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Speaker 2: things that Craig Fuller is talking about in here. What

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Speaker 2: has followed has been described as a great freight recession,

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Speaker 2: characterized as a most severe economic downturn of the freight

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Speaker 2: industry has ever experienced. Yes, this freight recession has gone

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Speaker 2: on now for more than three years, and normally these

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Speaker 2: freight recesses, and you folks in the trucking industry, you've

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Speaker 2: seen this before. You've seen situations where the trucking recession

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Speaker 2: has gone on and where you've had different times of

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Speaker 2: where freight rates have been down, freight rates have been up,

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Speaker 2: and you've seen how these have ebbed and flowed over

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Speaker 2: the years. And generally, if they are going to last,

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Speaker 2: they're only going to last for about I think the

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Speaker 2: average is what I was seeing was somewhere between twelve

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Speaker 2: and fourteen months. We are now into the third year

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Speaker 2: of this great recession. Also, he points out here in

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Speaker 2: his editorial, and I'm going to put this on Facebook

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Speaker 2: because this is extremely important.

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Speaker 3: Craig Fuller, CEO of Freight Waves.

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Speaker 2: Family owned trucking firms have been wiped out because they

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Speaker 2: can't compete. ATA is under claiming that ATA is basically.

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Speaker 3: Undermining their members.

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Speaker 2: Members joined the American Trucking Associations in order to be

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Speaker 2: part of a group of a group that is going

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Speaker 2: to be fighting for their rights and promoting business practices

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Speaker 2: that support them and help them in their industry. And

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Speaker 2: what the ATA has been doing by import by allowing

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Speaker 2: or pushing for or allowing these companies to push for

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Speaker 2: lower wages, and some of the regulations that were not

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Speaker 2: being enforced, and some of the lacks that was being

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Speaker 2: done as far as the actual issuing of these CDLs

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Speaker 2: has actually hurt their membership. And he's very adamant on that.

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Speaker 2: And this isn't the first time I've heard this being

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Speaker 2: discussed and the first time I've heard this being talked about,

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Speaker 2: and so this is definitely something that has to be

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Speaker 2: looked at. Now we're not going to have obviously a

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Speaker 2: chance to get to it today. But one of the

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Speaker 2: things that has been pointed out is how the actual

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Speaker 2: process of illegal aliens are getting CDLs in the United States,

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Speaker 2: and some of the discussions where California is claiming that

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Speaker 2: they are actually in within the regulations, that they're following

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Speaker 2: the regulations, their arguments quite honestly don't meet the standards.

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Speaker 2: If they're claiming that they enforce the English language proficiency,

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Speaker 2: how is somebody getting a driver's license. As we saw

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Speaker 2: the accident in Florida and then the accident in southern

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Speaker 2: California that the driver of both of those vehicles couldn't

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Speaker 2: speak English. So if they say that they're not issuing

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Speaker 2: licenses to people that can't pass the English language proficiency,

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Speaker 2: how did they get a license? That's a simple question. Well, folks,

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Speaker 2: we're up against clock here. Stay tuned for Red Eye

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Speaker 2: Radio at the.

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Speaker 3: Top the hour.

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Speaker 2: I'm Kevin Gordon, America's Truck and Network seven hundred WL