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Speaker 1: It's seven to six here at fifty five Carsit the

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Speaker 1: talk station after Friday Eve. Brian Thomas hosts here the

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Speaker 1: fifty five Caersey Morning Show. Welcoming back, and I truly

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Speaker 1: appreciate his willingness to join the fifty five Carsee Morning

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Speaker 1: Show regularly. Welcome back Congressman Warren Davidson. It's a pleasure

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Speaker 1: to have you on, as it always is, sir, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Always an honor. Nice to talk with you, Brian.

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Speaker 1: Well, before we dive in onto whether or not the

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Speaker 1: government's going to shut down this weekend, because it has

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Speaker 1: a lot to do with ICE and its activities, let

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Speaker 1: me ask you a question here. I read earlier in

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Speaker 1: the program this twenty ten Barack Obama position statement that

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Speaker 1: he defended his efforts and his successful efforts, mind you,

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Speaker 1: to deport illegal immigrants, regardless of whether they were just

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Speaker 1: regular members of the community who've been here for a

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Speaker 1: long time. He said it. Often the argument is framed

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Speaker 1: in moral terms. Why should we punish people who are

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Speaker 1: just trying to earn a living. I recognize the sense

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Speaker 1: of compassion that drives this argument, but I believe such

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Speaker 1: an indiscriminate approach would be both unwise and unfair. He's

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Speaker 1: worried about there. There would be no repercussions for such

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Speaker 1: a decision of more illegal came here than there's got

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Speaker 1: to be, or more are going to flow in. In

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Speaker 1: other words, that's an incentive for people to come into

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Speaker 1: the country if they know they're not going to be deported.

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Speaker 1: He was all about doing exactly what Donald Trump is doing.

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Speaker 1: So that was twenty ten. Obama Democrats didn't scream, her

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Speaker 1: wail and ashtief about that. Biden comes in, Congressman Davidson

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Speaker 1: floods the whole country with the illegal immigrants, with open

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Speaker 1: the election, Donald Trump promising to do what Barack Obama's does,

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Speaker 1: shutting the border down and removing illegal immigrants. So we

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Speaker 1: got Trump back in. He's back to the Obama position

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Speaker 1: on that, and the massisteria ensues. Now, obviously this is crazy,

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Speaker 1: but Congressman Warren Davidson going to the ultimate point, is

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Speaker 1: this going to affect the midterm elections? A lot of

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Speaker 1: Republicans now are getting cold feet, they're getting worried, they're

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Speaker 1: sweating that this anti ice activity that is spreading is

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Speaker 1: becoming the dominant narrative. Ergo, Trump's going to suffer in

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Speaker 1: the election. Republicans is going to whose seats in the House.

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Speaker 1: I'm not quite sure if the will of the American

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Speaker 1: It sounds to me like the American people want tough

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Speaker 1: on illegal immigration in this country. Have we lost that

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Speaker 1: many people to the pro you know, pro or anti

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Speaker 1: ice sentiment? Congressman Davidson starf for going so long winded.

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Speaker 2: No, you made a lot of great points, Brian, And

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Speaker 2: I mean that's the kind of stuff when I'm out

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Speaker 2: talking to you know, constituents, people in the eighth district,

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Speaker 2: they still want a secure border. They know Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: secured the border. Frankly, Obama didn't actually secure the border

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Speaker 2: very well, but he did do deportations and he did

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Speaker 2: him pretty well. And who did he trust to do it?

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Speaker 2: Tom Homan. Yeah, he awarded Tom Homan for basically being

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Speaker 2: a great, great leader on his job of ice, you know,

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Speaker 2: getting people who aren't supposed to be here out of

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Speaker 2: the country. And I think, you know, the operation is

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Speaker 2: this is an information war and there's a game in Minneapolis.

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Speaker 2: Unlike every other city. I mean, there are sanctuary cities

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Speaker 2: around the country where they have kind of coordinated community

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Speaker 2: organizers that do all this activism, but they're at a

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Speaker 2: whole different level up there in Little Somalia, and we

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Speaker 2: need to get serious about, you know, the tactics and techniques.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think the big thing is you learn

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Speaker 2: So you still want to deal with the insurgency and

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Speaker 2: get rid of this stuff, but you know, the tactics

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Speaker 2: really have to be in a way that reinforces your effort.

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Speaker 2: So I think that's the reason Tom Homan gets sent

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Speaker 2: hopefully they don't take their eye off the ball and say,

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Speaker 2: oh well, let's let the bedwetters win and find some

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Speaker 2: middle ground. The middle ground is you've been invited to leave.

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Speaker 2: Here's one thousand dollars plus travel expenses, please leave. That's

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Speaker 2: middle ground. So I think they've they've extended you know,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I thought political brilliance, assuming anybody out there

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Speaker 1: I thought that was a brilliant selection by President Trump

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Speaker 1: and it brings that to the head. But just like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, is the sense of urgency greater

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know there's a reason you created, like

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Speaker 2: crime issues. But we've been trying to get the FBI

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Speaker 2: And I think that's the concern even in Minneapolis. You

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Speaker 2: it looks like DOJ may not even go full force

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Speaker 1: Well, and that to me only encourages them to continue

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Speaker 1: to do that type of thing. Absence some kind of

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Speaker 1: wants three things. An end to roving patrols of ICE

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Speaker 1: same use of force policies that apply to state and

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Speaker 2: Congressman Davidson, Well, even if they agreed to that, the

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Speaker 2: government would shut down because that's not the version that

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Speaker 2: Ice and border security are funded, as is the whole government.

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Speaker 2: would take Trump telling me to do that for me

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Speaker 2: and that's just not going to happen. So the money

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Speaker 1: Well as well he should what got him elected. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if they're any changes to what the Senate is looking

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Speaker 2: The House, that's right. Yeah, So we we're supposed to

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Speaker 1: We'll continue with Congress from Warren Davison. Yeah, where are

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Speaker 1: those Epstein fails? Plus a cool idea. I think you

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Speaker 1: over the CVP app the self deportation. App Apparently now

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Speaker 1: a little bit larger. Thank you, Eric, and moving over

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Speaker 1: where the hell of the Epstein files? Congressman Davidson, Is

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Speaker 2: I really don't think so. I mean, I think we'll

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Speaker 2: find out about the Epstein files about the same pace

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Speaker 2: that we found out about JFK. I knew you're going

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Speaker 2: to say even then it's redacted and missing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was worried you're going to say that. And

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Speaker 1: if this only gets worse by way of optics, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying something you haven't heard a million times

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Speaker 1: didn't lift the finger. In fact, argued again, it's releasing them.

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Speaker 2: Now, I think look, I think the biggest, biggest, most

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Speaker 2: I think everybody knows Epstein wasn't like a free agent.

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Speaker 2: He was directed and employed by intelligence agencies most likely,

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Speaker 2: It seems they reach settlements with a lot of these women,

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Speaker 1: Well, again, you point out the law of the land

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Speaker 2: Anyway, one hundred percent agree, I mean, and that's the

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Speaker 1: That is all right, real quick here, Congress, Moore and

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Speaker 1: Davis is one more topic. And I'm excited about this

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, generally the markets outperformed the

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Speaker 1: And speaking of philanthropists, a lot of them stepped up

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Speaker 1: So Congressman Warren Davidson, thank you for your participation on

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Speaker 1: the morning show. This morning will anxiously await the inevitable

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Speaker 1: Even if it's short lived. I have a feeling we'll

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Speaker 1: of health, and thank you for all the work that

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Speaker 2: It's definitely an honor. Thank you, Brian, God bless you

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Speaker 2: and all your listeners.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk soon, I hope, seven twenty five right now,

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