WEBVTT - Mike Allen Saturday Mid-Day -- 10/25/25 0:00:00.680 --> 0:00:04.320 It was Radio seven hundred WW Mike Allen and Saturday 0:00:04.400 --> 0:00:11.600 Midday a little Chili Saturday morning. Well, the violent crime 0:00:11.720 --> 0:00:15.319 beat goes on in the city of Cincinnati. I'm sure 0:00:15.320 --> 0:00:19.280 you probably heard about this already after the Bengals Steelers 0:00:19.320 --> 0:00:24.439 game last Thursday night, right outside of the in Between Bar, 0:00:24.640 --> 0:00:27.720 which is at Sycamore and Third Street. 0:00:28.280 --> 0:00:29.560 I'll tell you what you know. 0:00:29.560 --> 0:00:32.640 I used to live downtown and went down there, you know, 0:00:32.720 --> 0:00:36.120 for games and things a lot, and there are always 0:00:36.320 --> 0:00:40.120 people outside of that place. It's just a pretty low 0:00:40.200 --> 0:00:46.199 key bar. Anyway, this shooting took place right at the 0:00:46.280 --> 0:00:51.640 end between bar. It's Sycamore and Third Street. This wasn't 0:00:51.640 --> 0:00:57.959 your normal shooting. This man, the decedent, was shot twenty 0:00:58.000 --> 0:01:03.240 three times. Twenty three times. Of course he's dead. You're 0:01:03.280 --> 0:01:06.560 not going to survive twenty three shots. Well, anyway, the 0:01:06.640 --> 0:01:09.399 dude was caught and indicted I think this week, and 0:01:10.360 --> 0:01:15.199 he was wearing an ankle monitor. Ankle monitor. Of course, 0:01:15.319 --> 0:01:19.720 being with the probation department puts on some probationers to 0:01:19.840 --> 0:01:24.080 monitor where they're going. Obviously, this guy was going down 0:01:24.120 --> 0:01:27.640 to the in Between bar to fire twenty three shots 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:31.640 into somebody. So he was on probation again. No real 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:36.040 surprise there, but just to revisit another issue real quickly, 0:01:36.520 --> 0:01:40.000 the judges, the Common Police Court judges voted to close 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:48.720 for probation substations in you know, high crime areas Price Hill, Avondale, OTR, Madisonville, 0:01:49.040 --> 0:01:53.880 and by all accounts, they were really working well, being 0:01:53.960 --> 0:01:58.080 in there, being in the neighborhoods well for some reason, 0:01:58.360 --> 0:02:01.480 and maybe there's an answer I'd never heard it to 0:02:01.520 --> 0:02:05.040 the question why did they stop doing that when it's 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:09.600 been a success And apparently the probation officers thought it 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:12.720 was a success too. I don't know why they stopped that. 0:02:13.200 --> 0:02:16.560 I guess we can only speculate. I mean, maybe it 0:02:16.639 --> 0:02:20.560 was because it was working too well. Too many probationers 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:24.480 who violated were ending up locked up. And well, I'll 0:02:24.520 --> 0:02:26.960 tell you what, there are some in our community that 0:02:27.440 --> 0:02:30.440 sure wouldn't want that anyway. I'd like to have an 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:34.040 answer to that at some point. Well, then you look 0:02:34.080 --> 0:02:37.880 at our mayor, Aftab Puer ofval. We also learned this 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:44.160 week that completely completely out of the blue, Mayor purrival 0:02:44.520 --> 0:02:49.120 wants to play police chief now on Thursday. The mayor, 0:02:49.800 --> 0:02:53.600 who I guess now wants to run the police department. 0:02:54.639 --> 0:03:01.640 He decided that CPD will increase enforcement of low level crimes, 0:03:01.880 --> 0:03:06.880 which is a direct contradiction to where counsel and administration 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:10.880 and the mayor have been all along. And that decree 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:14.680 just kind of came out of nowhere. Now, it might 0:03:14.760 --> 0:03:19.520 be helpful if the mayor and council and city manager 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:22.919 are really serious about it, But I mean, two weeks 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:26.160 before an election, why would you do it then? Why 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:29.120 would you do it with the department in such an 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:34.200 uproar now based upon the crappy treatment that Chief Fiji 0:03:34.440 --> 0:03:38.720 has received. But here's the problem. Here's the problem with 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:43.120 enforcing these low level crimes. You know, I don't know 0:03:43.240 --> 0:03:45.640 a lot about a lot, but I know a lot 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:46.640 about a little. 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:48.200 Here's the problem. 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:52.760 The minute a Cincinnati police officer looks the wrong way 0:03:53.520 --> 0:03:57.960 or says the wrong thing to a suspect, that officer 0:03:58.280 --> 0:04:01.280 is then in the jackpot and he will get no 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:06.280 backing from the administration or the mayor whatsoever. And you 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:08.880 know what, if you don't believe me, go out and 0:04:08.920 --> 0:04:11.720 ask a street cop if they're friends, and you know, 0:04:11.800 --> 0:04:15.040 they're reluctant to talk. And I understand that, but that 0:04:15.320 --> 0:04:19.839 is the prevailing opinion or I guess feeling in the 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:24.200 Cincinnati Police Department, I ain't sticking my neck out because 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:28.720 if I make a mistake, a legitimate mistake that doesn't 0:04:28.800 --> 0:04:33.080 hurt anybody, but may offend some boom here I am, 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:36.240 I'm in the docket, then that's the problem. 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:37.520 That's the problem. 0:04:37.960 --> 0:04:40.000 And you know they're not going to get any backing 0:04:40.240 --> 0:04:43.440 from the administration. You know, they'll be on their own, 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:48.479 except for, thank goodness, the FOP who defends those officers. 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:52.920 And you know this is because the mayor who is 0:04:53.200 --> 0:04:57.159 in the city manager, who are creatures of politics, they 0:04:57.240 --> 0:05:01.280 have to appease certain elements of their can constituency who, 0:05:01.360 --> 0:05:05.760 let's just be honest about it, don't like or trust cops. 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:09.480 They don't want cops who are tough on crime. They 0:05:09.560 --> 0:05:14.680 don't want it. And everyone knows that no matter what happens, 0:05:14.839 --> 0:05:19.880 it's always the cops fault with certain parts of this constituency, 0:05:20.200 --> 0:05:23.960 it's always the cops fault. You know, I think it's 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:27.159 a good time now to take a little history lesson 0:05:27.200 --> 0:05:33.040 here issue five. Some of you may remember that, most 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:36.719 of you probably won't, but thanks to the FOP, and 0:05:37.080 --> 0:05:39.360 by the way, we're going to be talking FOP President 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:43.560 Ken Kober at eleven thirty. Here's the thing. It's back 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:45.960 in the news again. Let me tell you what it 0:05:46.080 --> 0:05:50.480 is first. It's and I've talked about it before on 0:05:50.520 --> 0:05:53.000 this show. I've talked about it ever since I've been 0:05:53.040 --> 0:05:57.600 on not a lot. Okay City Issue five. It passed 0:05:57.680 --> 0:06:02.839 in two thousand and one, barely fifty two percent to 0:06:02.960 --> 0:06:06.560 forty eight percent. It won, So it was close what 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:10.680 Issue five did. And it was a charter amendment. It 0:06:10.800 --> 0:06:15.320 took away the chiefs, police, chief, fire chief their civil 0:06:15.400 --> 0:06:22.000 service protection and gave it to the politicians, mayor, city manager, council. 0:06:24.200 --> 0:06:26.480 The system worked fine. 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:28.800 But then we had Issue five, and boy, a lot 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:30.560 of people and I was involved in it too. 0:06:30.600 --> 0:06:31.960 I was prosecutor at the time. 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:36.080 A lot of people worked really hard on that campaign 0:06:36.160 --> 0:06:40.960 because those who have any experience in this city and 0:06:41.000 --> 0:06:45.320 in the criminal justice system knew at some point, at 0:06:45.320 --> 0:06:48.600 some point and were at some point now in the 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:52.360 year twenty twenty five, it was going to be a disaster. 0:06:53.320 --> 0:06:56.800 So anyway, they you know, they had this thing, they 0:06:56.839 --> 0:06:59.880 had the election, it barely won. Let me give you 0:06:59.880 --> 0:07:03.560 a little context here for Issue five. 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:04.400 And This is from AI. 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:08.080 And you know, I look at these things before I 0:07:08.200 --> 0:07:10.880 talk about them, and this is accurate, and most of 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:14.480 the stuff that I research on AI is accurate. Just 0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:15.960 give me a second here. I want to make sure 0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:20.119 people understand what it was, Okay, according to AI. After 0:07:20.200 --> 0:07:24.960 voter approval of Cincinnati's Issue five in two thousand and one, 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:29.679 the city's police chief lost civil service protection. The charter 0:07:29.760 --> 0:07:33.280 amendment gave the city manager the power to hire and 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:37.280 fire department heads, including the police chief and fire chief, 0:07:37.560 --> 0:07:43.480 without the traditional protections given to classified civil service employees. 0:07:44.480 --> 0:07:47.119 Just a little bit more on the background of Issue five. 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:50.760 Context for the vote. Issue five was put on the 0:07:50.760 --> 0:07:55.000 ballot following the two thousand and one riots in Cincinnati, 0:07:55.560 --> 0:07:58.080 which were sparked by the fatal police shooting of an 0:07:58.160 --> 0:08:02.720 unarmed black teenager, Sam Timothy Thomas. And again, I was 0:08:02.760 --> 0:08:07.760 a prosecutor at the time. Knee deepen at I remember well. Anyway, 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:11.080 reasons for the change. Proponents of Issue five argued that 0:08:11.120 --> 0:08:14.880 the old civil service rules made it too difficult to 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:18.520 remove a police chief who was not performing effectively. 0:08:19.080 --> 0:08:20.680 Well, they got half of that right. 0:08:21.320 --> 0:08:24.880 It did make it more difficult for politicians to get 0:08:24.960 --> 0:08:29.640 rid of the police chief shift in authority. Before issue five, 0:08:29.760 --> 0:08:34.160 the police chief was selected through a civil service process 0:08:34.600 --> 0:08:39.080 and their employment was protected. After Issue five passed, the 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:43.320 authority to appoint and remove the chief was consolidated under 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:47.400 the city manager, and of course that means the mayor. 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:54.040 So that's the deal with Issue five. You know, Issue five. 0:08:54.920 --> 0:08:57.000 I said it at the time. I believe it now 0:08:57.120 --> 0:09:01.800 more than ever. It was a bad had bad idea 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:05.920 from the start, and everybody knew it. And again it 0:09:06.040 --> 0:09:09.400 only passed fifty two to forty eight percent, but hey, 0:09:09.720 --> 0:09:14.040 that's enough to win, and they did. Before issue five, 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:19.240 I would posit that the police chief was insulated from 0:09:19.240 --> 0:09:22.880 the politics of city hall. And that's as it should be. 0:09:22.920 --> 0:09:26.800 And I'll tell you something, the City of Cincinnati, even 0:09:26.840 --> 0:09:30.360 going back all that time, we were kind of one 0:09:30.440 --> 0:09:33.720 of the exceptions to the way it usually works. You know, 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:37.000 where the mayor gets mad about something the cops do. Boom, 0:09:37.280 --> 0:09:41.360 police chief is gone. City manager gets upset, Boom, police 0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:44.880 chief is gone. It was a good thing that we 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:49.720 were different in that regard. We took politics well, politics 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:55.120 was taken out of that process until Issue five passed, 0:09:56.200 --> 0:10:00.200 and again the chief was insulated from the politics that 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:03.079 go on down at city Hall. You know, the manager, 0:10:03.160 --> 0:10:08.120 the mayor, city manager, council. They did not get involved 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:12.400 in the day to day operations of the Cincinnati Police Department. 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:16.120 Well that's not true now, because you got the mayor 0:10:16.559 --> 0:10:18.840 now just out of nowhere, a couple of weeks before 0:10:18.880 --> 0:10:20.800 the election, deciding. 0:10:20.360 --> 0:10:22.280 That we know what, well maybe we will. 0:10:22.160 --> 0:10:27.800 Start enforcing these smaller offenses. And again, we were unique 0:10:27.840 --> 0:10:31.400 in that regard, unique in a good way. It worked 0:10:31.559 --> 0:10:36.640 well for many, many, many years. I think it goes 0:10:36.679 --> 0:10:39.680 all the way back to the twenties and the reform 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:43.840 movement at Charter, the Charter Party started in Cincinnati. 0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:47.280 We were different and different for a good reason. 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:52.400 Now, I remember Chief Striker not putting up with any 0:10:52.559 --> 0:10:56.240 crap like this from the city manager or the mayor. 0:10:56.840 --> 0:11:00.160 And those of you that know Larry wal and know 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:03.120 that he was the same way. He wasn't going to 0:11:03.200 --> 0:11:06.800 inject Those two guys were not going to have politics 0:11:06.840 --> 0:11:11.440 injected to their job. You know, they knew they had 0:11:11.520 --> 0:11:17.480 civil service protection. And you know, before five a person 0:11:17.559 --> 0:11:22.360 became chief through the civil service process. It wasn't a 0:11:22.400 --> 0:11:25.400 deal where you know, we like this one because this 0:11:25.440 --> 0:11:27.480 one is a certain sex or this one is a 0:11:27.480 --> 0:11:28.160 certain color. 0:11:28.600 --> 0:11:32.319 It was a merit based promotion situation. 0:11:33.679 --> 0:11:38.760 It was based on competence, period And really, credibly, you 0:11:38.800 --> 0:11:41.960 can argue all you want, but who can credibly argue 0:11:42.360 --> 0:11:45.800 that that's not a good thing. Well, let's fast forward 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:48.680 to twenty twenty five. You know, you got a Democrat 0:11:48.800 --> 0:11:53.760 mayor Democrat council, no Republicans to be found anywhere, and 0:11:54.040 --> 0:11:58.080 now you have the mayor dictating how CPD conducts its 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:02.400 business two weeks before the election. And is that a 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:06.280 good thing for the city of Cincinnati. I'll know it's 0:12:06.320 --> 0:12:10.640 not a good thing. In almost every major city in 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:14.680 this country, the chief is appointed by the mayor or council, 0:12:14.920 --> 0:12:18.440 or manager or both or all three. In some cases. 0:12:19.280 --> 0:12:22.200 We were unique that we didn't do it that way. 0:12:22.440 --> 0:12:26.240 We do it now. And all these cities, all these 0:12:26.320 --> 0:12:31.320 cities are run by Democrats, and man, they've done a 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:35.440 great job, haven't they. So now in Cincinnati we have 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:38.560 a police chief who does not have any civil service 0:12:38.640 --> 0:12:43.960 protection being made the scapegoat for the city's crime problems. 0:12:44.040 --> 0:12:46.200 And you know what, We're gonna be talking about that 0:12:46.320 --> 0:12:49.840 a lot this morning. That is not right, That is 0:12:49.880 --> 0:12:53.640 not right. She is being made a scapegoat for what's 0:12:53.679 --> 0:12:56.760 going on in this city, and again it just ain't right. 0:12:57.520 --> 0:13:00.000 You know, there's a mayor's election coming up in November. 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:01.640 We all know that, so. 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:04.480 The mayor needs to appear tough on crime, which is 0:13:05.240 --> 0:13:08.360 out of control, as I think we all know in 0:13:08.400 --> 0:13:12.200 this country. So what does he do out of nowhere? 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:17.080 They put her on the chief Chief Fiji on administrative 0:13:17.200 --> 0:13:20.520 leave and let her twist in the wind. I guess 0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:24.880 they figure she's collateral damage to the mayor's political future. 0:13:25.240 --> 0:13:28.800 She has no civil service protection and it's just not right. 0:13:29.400 --> 0:13:32.400 And we also heard this week that the city is 0:13:32.440 --> 0:13:35.680 looking for maybe they found him a law firm to 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:41.920 investigate the chief. I mean, what would a law firm know, 0:13:42.320 --> 0:13:47.800 presumably about police procedure. What are they going to investigate? 0:13:48.400 --> 0:13:51.640 Which just leaves her twisting in the wind even more. 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:54.720 But you know, there's going to be a big old 0:13:54.760 --> 0:13:57.199 pot of gold at the end of the rainbow for 0:13:57.400 --> 0:14:00.320 Chief Fiji, and that says it should be. 0:14:01.440 --> 0:14:02.320 So what can we do. 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:06.280 The obvious thing is to repeal Issue five and give 0:14:06.320 --> 0:14:09.560 the civil service protection back like we had for so 0:14:09.640 --> 0:14:16.000 many years before two thousand and one. But that's easier 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:18.680 said than done. It looks like the police are ready 0:14:18.720 --> 0:14:21.440 for it based upon what they're doing the FOP and 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:25.080 again we're going to talk to Ken Kober at eleven thirty. 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:29.080 You know, back in two thousand and one, those that 0:14:29.240 --> 0:14:33.040 had any connection to law enforcement or the Cincinnati Police 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:37.960 Department knew that this day was coming, and we're seeing 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:41.600 it now playing out where the chief is being scapegoated. 0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:46.560 It's here now. So they need to stop. 0:14:47.760 --> 0:14:51.960 Scapegoating the chief of police and give the chief, not 0:14:52.040 --> 0:14:55.640 only chief of police, fire chief two their civil service 0:14:55.720 --> 0:14:59.400 protection back. What is such a big deal about that? 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:02.400 And that is the only way that you're going to 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:06.240 correct this nonsense anyway, That's what I think. As always, 0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:08.320 I want to know what you think. Seven four nine, 0:15:08.400 --> 0:15:11.320 seven thousand, eight hundred, The big one are the numbers. 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:15.359 Mike Allen Saturday midday. 0:15:14.320 --> 0:15:17.160 The Football Bear casts have set the trap in Nipperage 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:19.600 and are ready to snare at victory. 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:20.000 From the Bears. 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:24.040 Will you see beat Baylor or get entangled in the trap? 0:15:24.200 --> 0:15:27.800 It's a big twelve conference class. Catch the call live 0:15:27.920 --> 0:15:32.200 today at three pm on seven hundred WLW or string 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:33.720 for free on the new and improved. 0:15:33.800 --> 0:15:38.640 iHeartRadio app behind on mortgage payments, facing costly return. 0:15:41.800 --> 0:15:47.000 They we're back Mike Allen, Saturday midday as promised. I'm 0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:48.760 going right to the phones here. 0:15:50.040 --> 0:15:52.840 Wait mate, to give me a second. 0:15:54.040 --> 0:15:58.680 Let's talk to Barry in Miamisburg. Please, Hey, Barry, how 0:15:58.720 --> 0:15:59.080 you doing? 0:15:59.120 --> 0:15:59.320 Man? 0:15:59.480 --> 0:16:01.040 Good morning, Good morning? 0:16:01.400 --> 0:16:02.320 What you got. 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:09.160 I'm good, okay, I'm here. 0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:15.520 I don't know much about this issue fact that you 0:16:15.560 --> 0:16:19.000 were talking about. I wasn't going to comment on it. 0:16:20.400 --> 0:16:24.480 I just want to comment on You know, from the 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:30.440 normal person's perspective, you have the police force. You have 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:34.880 the police chief, and then you have the city council clowns, 0:16:35.320 --> 0:16:39.360 and then you have the mayor and the judges. You know, 0:16:40.240 --> 0:16:44.920 the problem isn't with the police force. It does not 0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:49.080 appear to be with the police chief, who was only 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:52.000 doing what the clowns and the judges told her to do. 0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:56.920 The problem is with the clowns and the judges trying 0:16:56.960 --> 0:17:01.280 to force the go woke, go broke policies down with 0:17:01.360 --> 0:17:02.480 their throats. 0:17:03.080 --> 0:17:05.919 Well, you know what, I think you're essentially right about that, 0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:09.320 Barry Buck. The judges they don't really have anything to 0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:12.000 do with you know, police procedure, But they have a 0:17:12.040 --> 0:17:14.000 heck of a lot to do once the case gets 0:17:14.000 --> 0:17:16.800 in their courtroom, they have a heck. 0:17:16.680 --> 0:17:17.439 Of a lot to do. 0:17:17.640 --> 0:17:23.919 As you say about does this criminal go to jail 0:17:24.480 --> 0:17:26.520 or does he get out of jail in. 0:17:26.600 --> 0:17:27.800 Five hours or less? 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:29.960 Yeah, they have the ultimate say in that. 0:17:31.480 --> 0:17:33.800 So you know, they're just as much a part of 0:17:33.840 --> 0:17:39.040 the problem as in the case of where you know, 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:44.600 some guy who's been arrested twelve times decides to shoot somebody. 0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:47.480 You know, why wasn't this clown in jail? 0:17:48.600 --> 0:17:51.280 Those are legit questions, And boy, you're hearing him more 0:17:51.359 --> 0:17:54.480 and more. You've always heard those questions, but you're sure 0:17:54.640 --> 0:17:59.560 hearing them more and more in this county. And you know, 0:17:59.760 --> 0:18:02.879 I mean, you have to look at each individual judge, 0:18:02.880 --> 0:18:05.280 but it's not what it used to be down there 0:18:05.320 --> 0:18:06.680 at the Hamilton County Courthouse. 0:18:06.720 --> 0:18:07.400 I can tell you. 0:18:07.320 --> 0:18:12.600 That she said in every county in the state, right, Yeah, 0:18:12.640 --> 0:18:13.080 you're right. 0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:14.280 You're right to live. 0:18:14.200 --> 0:18:18.160 Un Summery County, which is pretty much the same thing. 0:18:20.760 --> 0:18:24.000 Yeah, that's what I've heard. It's just a bad situation. 0:18:24.480 --> 0:18:29.080 You do not want and or need politicians running the 0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:31.040 gosh darn police department. 0:18:31.359 --> 0:18:34.400 It's just stupid. It makes no sense. 0:18:34.480 --> 0:18:37.600 What makes political sense if you figure out why they 0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:40.040 want to do it. But as far as public safety, 0:18:40.320 --> 0:18:43.160 you know, let the chief run the department and stay 0:18:43.160 --> 0:18:47.000 out of his damn way unless he's doing something completely 0:18:47.040 --> 0:18:50.560 egregious or illegal. It worked pretty darn good in this 0:18:50.680 --> 0:18:53.320 city for a lot of years, and then we changed 0:18:53.359 --> 0:18:57.120 it in two thousand and one. 0:18:57.160 --> 0:18:58.920 You know, I am sure. 0:19:00.359 --> 0:19:02.520 The case where somebody got shot over. 0:19:02.440 --> 0:19:04.760 Twenty times, yeah, twenty three. 0:19:05.400 --> 0:19:08.280 Sir, this was not his first go round. 0:19:09.000 --> 0:19:11.119 I didn't look at his record, but I would venture 0:19:11.160 --> 0:19:14.439 to get well, he was on probation for something, so 0:19:14.800 --> 0:19:17.280 you know, I didn't look at his record, but I 0:19:17.320 --> 0:19:18.000 wasn't surprised. 0:19:18.040 --> 0:19:23.680 I'm sorry. Why wasn't this cat in jail where he belongs? 0:19:24.080 --> 0:19:24.719 Good question. 0:19:25.600 --> 0:19:27.800 You know, I don't know what the situation with that 0:19:27.960 --> 0:19:31.920 case was, that he violated his probation and got put 0:19:31.960 --> 0:19:35.240 on what they called the box. But my guess is 0:19:35.760 --> 0:19:38.480 he's a frequent flyer. But I don't know that for 0:19:38.520 --> 0:19:40.320 a fact because I didn't look at his record. 0:19:42.000 --> 0:19:44.399 All right, Well, thank you and having my say. 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:45.800 Okay, Berry, thank you so much. 0:19:47.560 --> 0:19:51.760 Yeah, you know, my guess is you shoot somebody twenty 0:19:51.760 --> 0:19:56.400 three times, you're somewhat of a depraved mind, I would think, 0:19:56.440 --> 0:20:00.159 and it it's probably a pretty healthy criminal record. But 0:20:00.280 --> 0:20:04.080 again I can't say for sure because I didn't look. 0:20:04.440 --> 0:20:08.560 Didn't they have time? Hey, let's talk to Jay in Centerville. Hello, Jay, 0:20:08.600 --> 0:20:09.120 how are you? 0:20:10.200 --> 0:20:10.440 Hey? 0:20:10.480 --> 0:20:10.680 Mike? 0:20:10.720 --> 0:20:12.640 How are you good? What you got? 0:20:12.680 --> 0:20:12.840 Hey? 0:20:12.880 --> 0:20:15.440 I don't spend I don't spend all my time in Centerville. 0:20:15.480 --> 0:20:18.359 I spent a tremendous amount of time in downtown Cincinnati 0:20:18.400 --> 0:20:21.280 and over the Rhye. My girlfriend lives in Clifton. We 0:20:21.359 --> 0:20:24.080 get out and enjoy and enjoy everything the city has 0:20:24.080 --> 0:20:27.320 to offer. You and I have talked before. I spent 0:20:27.440 --> 0:20:31.359 twenty years in Portland. Yes, and I see so many 0:20:31.400 --> 0:20:35.600 parallels between what happened in Portland ten years ago to 0:20:35.680 --> 0:20:38.840 what's going on in Cincinnati now. If people don't get 0:20:38.880 --> 0:20:41.960 out and vote, they're going to have another Portland here 0:20:41.960 --> 0:20:44.520 in Cincinnati. It's not going to be the vibrant, fun 0:20:44.640 --> 0:20:46.520 city that we have right now. It's going to go 0:20:46.720 --> 0:20:49.679 in the dumper. I can tell you people have a 0:20:49.800 --> 0:20:55.800 misunderstanding of what Portland is like. Downtown is not necessarily 0:20:55.880 --> 0:20:59.360 that dangerous, but there was a time where it was 0:21:00.000 --> 0:21:04.520 actually during the DLM and ANTIFA stuff, and it scared 0:21:05.000 --> 0:21:09.760 regular suburbanites going down there. And now there's nothing left. 0:21:10.000 --> 0:21:13.560 Everything is closed. There is not a store open, there 0:21:13.600 --> 0:21:16.800 is not a bar. Almost everything I remember from the 0:21:16.840 --> 0:21:19.280 time I lived there I left it in twenty twelve 0:21:19.920 --> 0:21:25.040 is gone. It is a barren, empty hellscape and no 0:21:25.080 --> 0:21:29.359 one goes. Eric's home was. Even the areas that they 0:21:29.480 --> 0:21:34.960 built up and turned into high rent condos and things 0:21:35.040 --> 0:21:38.680 along those lines. Those whole neighborhoods are overrun and people 0:21:38.680 --> 0:21:39.400 are leaving. 0:21:39.200 --> 0:21:39.840 There as well. 0:21:39.960 --> 0:21:42.720 So if you don't get out and vote, I don't 0:21:42.720 --> 0:21:46.600 care if Corey Bowman is jd Vance's brother or not. Really, 0:21:46.920 --> 0:21:49.000 if you don't get out there and vote for change, 0:21:49.560 --> 0:21:51.840 this is what you have coming. And I can promise 0:21:51.880 --> 0:21:54.719 you it's not good. We have a great city. I 0:21:54.800 --> 0:21:58.760 was born in Cincinnati, raised in Dayton. Half my time 0:21:58.840 --> 0:22:00.760 down here, and I'm scared. 0:22:01.080 --> 0:22:05.639 I can't. I see it was the two time mayor 0:22:06.359 --> 0:22:09.399 of Portland. He is apt to have purball, just in 0:22:09.480 --> 0:22:10.680 a different different suit. 0:22:10.960 --> 0:22:15.520 Well you know what a lot of people are thinking that, Jay, 0:22:15.840 --> 0:22:16.879 Let me ask you something. 0:22:16.920 --> 0:22:19.520 I mean, you know you know about Portland. 0:22:20.119 --> 0:22:24.200 Why aren't the voters rebelling and not getting new people 0:22:24.240 --> 0:22:24.640 in there. 0:22:24.800 --> 0:22:26.080 Do they just not care? 0:22:26.200 --> 0:22:28.760 I mean, it's hard to believe that they would wouldn't care, 0:22:29.200 --> 0:22:32.119 but it's it's it's really a mystery to me. 0:22:32.400 --> 0:22:34.000 Why don't they do something about it. 0:22:35.240 --> 0:22:39.760 Port of Cincinnati are a lot alike in size, So 0:22:39.800 --> 0:22:43.520 you have the core of Portland, which is a fairly 0:22:43.600 --> 0:22:49.879 small population. They are so heavily vested in being Democrats 0:22:49.920 --> 0:22:53.280 and being anti Republican that they would vote their own demise. 0:22:53.880 --> 0:22:58.080 And because the suburban areas can't vote in Portland elections, 0:22:58.520 --> 0:23:01.680 it just continues on and on. Like the last mayor, 0:23:01.800 --> 0:23:06.639 Ted Wheeler. His only opponent in his previous election was 0:23:06.720 --> 0:23:11.479 a self professed mallict who won, who wore a skirt 0:23:11.480 --> 0:23:20.040 that had mal and oh gosh, Stalin and Mussolini on 0:23:20.080 --> 0:23:20.639 her skirt. 0:23:21.800 --> 0:23:22.520 That was it. 0:23:22.800 --> 0:23:25.480 Nobody else opposed him, so he won again even though 0:23:25.480 --> 0:23:28.600 he was a complete and total failure. And people have 0:23:28.720 --> 0:23:31.720 to look at Purvol he's only making moves, like you 0:23:31.800 --> 0:23:35.440 said right now, to appease people so he can get 0:23:35.440 --> 0:23:38.760 re elected. This guy doesn't care about the city, he 0:23:38.800 --> 0:23:42.040 doesn't care about law enforcement, he doesn't care about safety, 0:23:42.560 --> 0:23:45.200 and he's only doing this to trick you into voting 0:23:45.240 --> 0:23:45.600 for him. 0:23:45.640 --> 0:23:45.920 Again. 0:23:46.400 --> 0:23:48.840 He's a piece of garbage and people need to go 0:23:48.880 --> 0:23:51.159 out and vote against him or we're going to see 0:23:51.640 --> 0:23:53.800 this city turning into Portland. That would be sad. 0:23:53.840 --> 0:23:54.119 We have. 0:23:54.880 --> 0:23:57.159 I travel all over the world, Mike. There's not a 0:23:57.200 --> 0:23:59.800 place I know like Cincinnati for night life and things. 0:24:00.440 --> 0:24:01.640 It's great. 0:24:02.160 --> 0:24:07.400 It's unbelievable to go in the toilet, you know, and. 0:24:07.520 --> 0:24:09.679 You know you're right, and I live down there for 0:24:09.680 --> 0:24:13.560 about twelve years. It is a jewel. It is a gem. 0:24:13.840 --> 0:24:16.919 People don't realize what we have down there, and the 0:24:17.040 --> 0:24:20.680 quickest way to watch it go to pot is by 0:24:21.040 --> 0:24:23.120 having unbridled crime down there. 0:24:23.160 --> 0:24:25.440