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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what you know.

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Speaker 1: I used to live downtown and went down there, you know,

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Speaker 1: your normal shooting. This man, the decedent, was shot twenty

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Speaker 1: not going to survive twenty three shots. Well, anyway, the

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Speaker 1: being with the probation department puts on some probationers to

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Speaker 1: into somebody. So he was on probation again. No real

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Speaker 1: the judges, the Common Police Court judges voted to close

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Speaker 1: for probation substations in you know, high crime areas Price Hill, Avondale, OTR, Madisonville,

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Speaker 1: He decided that CPD will increase enforcement of low level crimes,

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Speaker 2: Here's the problem.

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Speaker 1: The minute a Cincinnati police officer looks the wrong way

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Speaker 2: That's the problem.

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Speaker 1: And you know they're not going to get any backing

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Speaker 1: here issue five. Some of you may remember that, most

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Speaker 1: A lot of people worked really hard on that campaign

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Speaker 1: And you know, I look at these things before I

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Speaker 1: the city's police chief lost civil service protection. The charter

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Speaker 1: Just a little bit more on the background of Issue five.

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Speaker 1: reasons for the change. Proponents of Issue five argued that

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Speaker 1: It did make it more difficult for politicians to get

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Speaker 1: So that's the deal with Issue five. You know, Issue five.

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Speaker 1: Well that's not true now, because you got the mayor

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Speaker 2: That we know what, well maybe we will.

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Speaker 1: Start enforcing these smaller offenses. And again, we were unique

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Speaker 2: We were different and different for a good reason.

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Speaker 1: Now, I remember Chief Striker not putting up with any

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Speaker 2: It was a merit based promotion situation.

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Speaker 1: It was based on competence, period And really, credibly, you

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Speaker 1: And you know what, We're gonna be talking about that

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Speaker 2: You know, there's a mayor's election coming up in November.

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Speaker 2: We all know that, so.

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Speaker 1: The mayor needs to appear tough on crime, which is

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Speaker 1: They put her on the chief Chief Fiji on administrative

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Speaker 1: And we also heard this week that the city is

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Speaker 1: presumably about police procedure. What are they going to investigate?

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Speaker 1: Which just leaves her twisting in the wind even more.

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Speaker 2: So what can we do.

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Speaker 1: The obvious thing is to repeal Issue five and give

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Speaker 1: many years before two thousand and one. But that's easier

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Speaker 1: You know, back in two thousand and one, those that

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Speaker 2: It's here now. So they need to stop.

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Speaker 1: Scapegoating the chief of police and give the chief, not

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Speaker 1: Mike Allen Saturday midday.

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Speaker 3: Will you see beat Baylor or get entangled in the trap?

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Speaker 1: They we're back Mike Allen, Saturday midday as promised. I'm

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Speaker 2: Wait mate, to give me a second.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk to Barry in Miamisburg. Please, Hey, Barry, how

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Speaker 6: Man?

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Speaker 7: Good morning, Good morning?

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Speaker 2: What you got.

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Speaker 1: I'm good, okay, I'm here.

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Speaker 8: I don't know much about this issue fact that you

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Speaker 8: the problem isn't with the police force. It does not

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Speaker 8: The problem is with the clowns and the judges trying

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Speaker 1: Well, you know what, I think you're essentially right about that,

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Speaker 1: Barry Buck. The judges they don't really have anything to

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Speaker 7: Of a lot to do.

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Speaker 8: As you say about does this criminal go to jail

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Speaker 7: Five hours or less?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they have the ultimate say in that.

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Speaker 8: So you know, they're just as much a part of

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Speaker 8: You know, why wasn't this clown in jail?

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Speaker 1: Those are legit questions, And boy, you're hearing him more

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Speaker 8: That she said in every county in the state, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 7: You're right to live.

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Speaker 8: Un Summery County, which is pretty much the same thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I've heard. It's just a bad situation.

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Speaker 1: You do not want and or need politicians running the

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Speaker 2: It's just stupid. It makes no sense.

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Speaker 1: What makes political sense if you figure out why they

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Speaker 1: egregious or illegal. It worked pretty darn good in this

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Speaker 7: You know, I am sure.

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Speaker 8: The case where somebody got shot over.

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Speaker 2: Twenty times, yeah, twenty three.

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Speaker 7: Sir, this was not his first go round.

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Speaker 1: I didn't look at his record, but I would venture

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Speaker 7: I'm sorry. Why wasn't this cat in jail where he belongs?

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't know what the situation with that

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Speaker 7: All right, Well, thank you and having my say.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Berry, thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, my guess is you shoot somebody twenty

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Speaker 1: Didn't they have time? Hey, let's talk to Jay in Centerville. Hello, Jay,

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Speaker 1: how are you?

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Speaker 7: Hey?

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Speaker 9: Mike?

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Speaker 7: How are you good? What you got?

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Speaker 10: Hey?

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Speaker 11: I don't spend I don't spend all my time in Centerville.

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Speaker 11: I spent a tremendous amount of time in downtown Cincinnati

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Speaker 11: Everything is closed. There is not a store open, there

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Speaker 12: There as well.

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Speaker 13: So if you don't get out and vote, I don't

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Speaker 13: care if Corey Bowman is jd Vance's brother or not. Really,

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Speaker 13: if you don't get out there and vote for change,

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Speaker 13: this is what you have coming. And I can promise

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Speaker 13: you it's not good. We have a great city. I

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Speaker 13: down here, and I'm scared.

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Speaker 11: I can't. I see it was the two time mayor

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Speaker 11: a different different suit.

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Speaker 1: Well you know what a lot of people are thinking that, Jay,

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you something.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know you know about Portland.

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Speaker 1: Why aren't the voters rebelling and not getting new people

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Speaker 2: Do they just not care?

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's hard to believe that they would wouldn't care,

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Speaker 2: Why don't they do something about it.

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Speaker 11: Port of Cincinnati are a lot alike in size, So

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Speaker 11: And because the suburban areas can't vote in Portland elections,

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Speaker 11: a self professed mallict who won, who wore a skirt

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Speaker 11: that had mal and oh gosh, Stalin and Mussolini on

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Speaker 14: That was it.

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Speaker 11: Nobody else opposed him, so he won again even though

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Speaker 11: to look at Purvol he's only making moves, like you

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Speaker 11: and he's only doing this to trick you into voting

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Speaker 11: for him.

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Speaker 4: Again.

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Speaker 11: He's a piece of garbage and people need to go

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Speaker 11: out and vote against him or we're going to see

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Speaker 6: We have.

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Speaker 11: I travel all over the world, Mike. There's not a

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Speaker 11: place I know like Cincinnati for night life and things.

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Speaker 7: It's great.

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Speaker 11: It's unbelievable to go in the toilet, you know, and.

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Speaker 1: You know you're right, and I live down there for

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Speaker 1: about twelve years. It is a jewel. It is a gem.

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Speaker 1: People don't realize what we have down there, and the

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Speaker 1: having unbridled crime down there.

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Speaker 2: But hey, I appreciate the call. It is a great call.

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Speaker 11: Hey, Mike, one real quick question. So you ever noticed

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Speaker 11: the bear always says feel safe. He doesn't talk about

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Speaker 11: drive people away. The safety doesn't talk about purple feelings

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Speaker 11: are going to drive people away, But the reality is

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Speaker 2: I hear you, No, I hear you.

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Speaker 7: Thank you, Mike.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I appreciate the call. That was a good call,

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Speaker 1: you know, And like I asked, him in Portland. Why

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Speaker 1: do the people that live in that city tolerated. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, you would think that they'd say, hey, I

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Speaker 1: don't want this in my city. I'm going to vote

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Speaker 1: for somebody else. Not necessarily Republican. That would be probably

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Speaker 1: too much to ask there, but at least a Democrat.

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Speaker 1: And there are some of them out there. Some of

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Speaker 1: Dendreaus comes to mind. My point is there are some

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Speaker 2: I don't get Portland.

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Speaker 1: The one thing I do get, though, is I don't

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Speaker 1: want Cincinnati to turn into Portland. I don't think anybody does. Hey,

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Speaker 1: who's up next. Let's talk to Bobby. Hey, good morning, Bobby.

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Speaker 12: Hey, my call you.

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Speaker 2: Will yeah, yeah, yeah, Hey.

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Speaker 12: I just wanted to tell you thanks for taking my call,

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Speaker 12: and you are a true voice for the common.

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Speaker 7: Man, my friend.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you, Bobby.

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Speaker 12: I can sum up a lot of things on previous

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Speaker 12: callers and ones that are coming up, and it's unfortunate

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Speaker 12: to say that is things aren't gonna change in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 12: The Democratic machine is well oiled. And I tell you what,

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Speaker 12: if you look around from all the different things from

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Speaker 12: the mayor city manager. It's the only thing changing in

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Speaker 12: Cincinnati is one thing, the speed of the fan, because

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Speaker 2: When we already know what that is. Yep, you know.

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Speaker 12: And I'll give you another example, Ahad the miners and stuff.

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Speaker 12: They're going on about how the children were causing all

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Speaker 12: the problems and they were gonna have holding facilities and

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Speaker 12: do all these things.

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Speaker 7: How many have they ever held none?

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Speaker 2: I have no idea. I don't know what they did

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Speaker 2: with that, Bobby nothing.

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Speaker 12: And they do that with everything else.

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Speaker 7: They do nothing.

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Speaker 2: You know what, I've said it a million times.

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Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna say it about a million five before

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Speaker 1: this day is over.

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Speaker 2: It's very very simple.

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Speaker 1: You want to get a handle on crime, you turn

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Speaker 1: the cops loose, You let them be proactive, You let

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Speaker 1: them police aggressively, appropriately and legally and constitutionally aggressive. That's

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Speaker 1: the only way it's going to work. And we haven't

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Speaker 1: had that in this city for a long long time.

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Speaker 7: No we haven't.

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Speaker 12: And I tell you what, you have to run it

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Speaker 12: almost like an insurgency operation. Let the police do their job.

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Speaker 12: Because if you eliminate a problem, you don't have to

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Speaker 12: worry about the prosecutors and judges because there won't be

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Speaker 12: a problem.

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Speaker 2: No, you're right.

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Speaker 12: I have to get to the root cause of all

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Speaker 12: the problems and eliminate them.

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Speaker 7: Well, it's it.

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Speaker 1: I ain't hold my breath, but I'll do everything that

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Speaker 1: I can do in my limited power to make some

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Speaker 1: change down there. They need to go back to the

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Speaker 1: old system where the chief of police and the fire

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Speaker 1: chief too are not pawns on a chess table of

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Speaker 1: the the city government, the manager, the mayor, et cetera.

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Speaker 1: Give them civil service protection back. And we had some

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Speaker 1: darn good chiefs under that system. But we shall see.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate the call.

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Speaker 7: Bobby, thank you, my friend.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you know, and again that is the only way

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Speaker 2: it's going to change.

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Speaker 1: Go back to the way it was in the late eighties,

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Speaker 1: early to mid nineties, where you turn them loose. You know,

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Speaker 1: you say, guys go and girls go out there, be aggressive,

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Speaker 1: be proactive. Hey, and if you screw up on a

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Speaker 1: minor mistake or something of that nature, we are going

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Speaker 1: to back you. That's what's missing, and that's just not

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Speaker 1: Mike Gallon saying that that's a lot of current CPD

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Speaker 1: guys and gals that can't say it. You know, they

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Speaker 1: just can't because of their job. Hey, let's talk to

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Speaker 1: Dennis in Annapolis. Hey, doctor Dennis, what's up?

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 7: Hey Mike.

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Speaker 15: This is from the rective of somebody who doesn't live

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Speaker 15: in Hamilton County but visits Cincinnati fairly frequently. I listened

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Speaker 15: to your news, read your newspaper, listen to your w

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Speaker 15: l w UH, listen watch the mayor debate, and uh,

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Speaker 15: you know, I I I can't believe that the voters

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Speaker 15: continue to keep this empty suit that you have in

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Speaker 15: the mayor's office in the office. It's just hard to believe.

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Speaker 15: It's like we're punishment or something. I don't know what

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Speaker 15: the problem is. And this pseudo investigation of the of

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Speaker 15: the police chief, I mean, what are the investigators?

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Speaker 7: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, and hiring a law firm to do it

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Speaker 1: to the tune of you know, it's going to be

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Speaker 1: in the millions of dollars. I would certainly for what

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Speaker 1: I mean, for what it's just a stunt two weeks

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Speaker 1: before election day.

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Speaker 2: I guess, I don't know.

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Speaker 15: Act like they're doing something, but but you know what's

511
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Speaker 15: what's it, couldn't believe it, this man, this that I

512
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Speaker 15: believe your police chief was out of the conference when

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Speaker 15: she got immediately called back the city. And then you

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Speaker 15: have this idiot pureval who's who was there the day

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Speaker 15: that that that July incident downtown happened and uh and

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Speaker 15: still left the city anyway, and then you didn't and

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Speaker 15: then this this whole scale, this kind of situation developed

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Speaker 15: over the weekend and you didn't hear from him for

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Speaker 15: three days. Now, I mean he was like absent without

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Speaker 15: you know, a wall. And uh, if you're a mayor

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Speaker 15: of a city, uh, you know, there's sometimes you have

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Speaker 15: to put your big boy pants on and come back

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Speaker 15: to the city. I know he's on a vacation or something,

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Speaker 15: but uh, you know, you got to do your responsibility

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Speaker 15: is to to to your your office.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes you got to do that. NA say, we're bumping

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Speaker 1: up against the news, but I sure appreciate your point

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Speaker 1: of view as always, thanks for calling.

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Speaker 7: Okay, okay, you know, and as.

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Speaker 1: I said before during the rant, I don't know the

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Speaker 1: moves that he's making. Perhaps there is some polling somewhere

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Speaker 1: that says that Corey Bowman is in it, and he's competitive.

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Speaker 1: That guy listened to him. I mean, he's done his homework.

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Speaker 1: He's just not a name that the Republican Party threw

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Speaker 1: up there. This guy's working it and working hard. But

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Speaker 1: having said all that, the city of Cincinnati is a

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Speaker 1: tough tough nut for Republicans or independence for that matter.

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Speaker 1: We got some great independence running Donni Drias. I mentioned him,

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Speaker 1: Steve Gooden, Christopher Smitheman, and a lot of others too.

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Speaker 1: So we'll just have to cross our fingers and see

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Speaker 1: what happens. Anyway, got to take a break for the news,

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Speaker 1: but I'm looking forward to this. When we get back

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Speaker 1: in studio, we're going to be talking too, retired but

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Speaker 1: longtime former Cincinnati police officer and the brother of Chief

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Speaker 1: Fiji russ Neville. And when we get back we will

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Speaker 1: be talking to him. Mike Allen Saturday midday.

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Speaker 16: All right, mister Pennay, I'm going to show you some images,

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Speaker 16: and you tell me what do you see.

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Speaker 5: That looks like Scott's loan eating a meat loaf? And

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Speaker 5: this one I see George Washington, Washington, Yeah, he's playing

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Speaker 5: paper football with Scott's loan. And this one I see

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Speaker 5: a man and a woman making love very good, but

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Speaker 5: she wants him to hurry up so she can listen

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Speaker 5: to Scott's Loans.

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Speaker 2: Scott's Loan, you may become obsessed.

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Speaker 17: Join me Scott Sloan, Monday morning at nine on seven

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Speaker 17: hundred WLWL.

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Speaker 2: You are a disturbed man. Mike Mays here from Legacy Financial.

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Speaker 2: We want to say.

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Speaker 1: Those radio seven hundred WLW Mike Allen and Saturday Midday

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Speaker 1: hour two of saying I'll.

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Speaker 15: Tell you what.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, I've been looking forward to this segment.

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Speaker 1: We have in studio here quite a few of the

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Speaker 1: Neville family, but the person that wants to speak is

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Speaker 1: Russ Neville.

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Speaker 2: A just a long career in law enforcement.

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Speaker 1: All of the Neville's do, and I've got a list here,

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Speaker 1: but we'd take up too much time, I think if

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Speaker 1: we did that, but the premiere I would say law

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Speaker 1: enforcement family. And I'm not just saying that in Hamilton County. Russ,

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Speaker 1: thanks for coming up today. Thank you, sir okay for

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Speaker 1: having us just start out? What do you want to say?

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Speaker 1: What do you want people to know about your sister

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Speaker 1: Chief Fiji?

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Speaker 18: First and foremost, I want them to know that she's huh, dedicated, passionate,

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Speaker 18: cares about the members of the organization and the community. Yeah,

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Speaker 18: talk to Terry regularly or for the years, but most

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Speaker 18: specifically the last two or three years during her role,

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Speaker 18: and every conversation came back to the community and the

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Speaker 18: needs and the way to get it done and how

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Speaker 18: do we maintain the dignity of the officers and support them.

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Speaker 18: Every single conversation, regardless of other topics, came back to that.

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Speaker 2: I don't doubt that she what thirty four years.

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Speaker 18: I think I believe she has thirty five years. Thirty

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Speaker 18: five years, and every bit of it, every single moment

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Speaker 18: of it was done with what she felt was right

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Speaker 18: and best and it was always fair. You never have

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Speaker 18: everybody agreeing with every decision you make, right and management,

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Speaker 18: which you get, you're going to have detractors. You're going

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Speaker 18: to have those that you cross paths with and you

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Speaker 18: know your decision impacts them in a negative way, usually

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Speaker 18: because of their conduct or behavior. But that's the reality

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Speaker 18: of management. But back to Terry's specifically, she's just a

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Speaker 18: good person who works hard, who's raised a family of

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Speaker 18: children and now she has grandchildren and in the midst

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Speaker 18: of all of that, she continued to strive to maintain

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Speaker 18: the reputation of the Cincinnati Police Department and maintain the

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Speaker 18: level of performance those officers perform and allow them to

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Speaker 18: do what it is they need to do to get

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Speaker 18: the job done while maintaining within the rules.

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Speaker 7: Yep.

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Speaker 18: And that's probably the best thing I can say is

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Speaker 18: she is a combination, and she manages it all. She

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Speaker 18: manages it all maturely and confidently. And I'm not going

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Speaker 18: to kid that there's not times it's a struggle, I

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Speaker 18: can imagine, but she every single time overcomes the struggle

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Speaker 18: and she fights forward. And she loves her children, her grandchildren,

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Speaker 18: and she loves the members of this department. And she

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Speaker 18: loves providing service to the community. That's what I say

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Speaker 18: about Terry.

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Speaker 2: It's a family, wouldn't you agree?

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Speaker 1: I mean police officers in general, especially Cincinnati police officers.

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Speaker 2: It sures seems to me it's a family.

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Speaker 18: So within a family, have disagreements, Yeah, and you handle

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Speaker 18: disagreements with dignity and respect and communication. And I will

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Speaker 18: say right here and now, while we're talking specifically Terry

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Speaker 18: and I have other topics to cover. The mayor and

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Speaker 18: the manager and I've achieved that. They haven't even come

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Speaker 18: close to achieving that. No allowance of dignity, not at all.

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Speaker 18: No showing of respect, no, and no proper management of

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Speaker 18: where this has gone. We don't even know where it

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Speaker 18: came from. Time will tell.

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you.

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Speaker 1: You said you have some other things that you'd like

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Speaker 1: to cover your microphone man, what would you like to say?

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Speaker 18: I'd like to say that this isn't about the nevils.

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Speaker 18: This is not about the Novill legacy. We're proud of it.

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Speaker 18: You shouldn't. The majority of us have moved on to

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Speaker 18: other elements of life and we enjoy it. This is

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Speaker 18: about Terry Thiji, the future of the Cincinnati Police Department,

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Speaker 18: and those that may want to sit in that seat later.

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Speaker 18: This is about offering to every one of your listeners.

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Speaker 18: If I don't care, let me cover a point here. Absolutely,

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Speaker 18: we're a family of about ninety. Of that ninety about

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Speaker 18: fifty or so or voter age. We are a combination

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Speaker 18: of Democrats, Independence, and Republicans. We vote various ways. We

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Speaker 18: can still communicate as a family and not allow that

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Speaker 18: to interfere. But the point I'm making is each and

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Speaker 18: every one of them take terry out of this. Each

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Speaker 18: and every one of them believe this is wrong and

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Speaker 18: it is something the mayor should be held accountable for

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Speaker 18: via the vote.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 18: I don't care if you're a Democrat, an Independent, or

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Speaker 18: a Republican. That is conversation I've had time and time

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Speaker 18: again over the last week plus with people in each

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Speaker 18: of those parties. I have friends in each of the parties.

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Speaker 18: It's irrelevant what party you've belonged to or how you vote.

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Speaker 18: This man should not be able to do what he's

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Speaker 18: attempting to do to her or anybody in the future.

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Speaker 18: And the only way to address that, as we speak

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Speaker 18: to your listeners is vote exactly we say it time

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Speaker 18: and time again, get out and vote. Reality, Mike, only

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Speaker 18: about fifteen eighteen percent of people show up to vote

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Speaker 18: on such elections.

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Speaker 2: City elections. Yeah, it's always been low. So think about this, listeners.

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Speaker 2: If you.

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Speaker 18: Believe the Chiefdiji is being scapegoaded, poorly treated, they're stripping

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Speaker 18: ver dignating or respect, vote vote for whoever you care for,

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Speaker 18: Vote for whatever council member you care for, Do not

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Speaker 18: vote for that mayor. Go and vote, and if we

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Speaker 18: can get twenty five thirty thirty five percent of those

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Speaker 18: registered voters who believe in what we are sharing.

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Speaker 2: Right now, we can.

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Speaker 18: Get new leadership in the city and then we can

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Speaker 18: get into the Issue five and the other topics. Now

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Speaker 18: I get that, but these items have to be covered first.

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Speaker 18: So obviously we got more to talk about. But that's

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Speaker 18: my response to your question.

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, if you care to address

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Speaker 2: it Issue five, you know what it is.

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Speaker 7: I know what it is.

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Speaker 1: We all do when it happened, I said at the time,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not toot my own horn because I was right.

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Speaker 7: It's a bad, bad, bad idea to.

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Speaker 1: Take civil service protection away from the chief of police,

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Speaker 1: the fire chief too, but especially the chief of police.

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Speaker 1: It looks like the FOP and we're going to talk

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Speaker 1: to Ken Kobra at eleven thirty. It's like the fop's

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Speaker 1: going to take that on your thoughts on that, because

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Speaker 1: I truly believe this, I really do. If Issue five

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Speaker 1: had not passed, we and your sister would not be

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Speaker 1: in this situation.

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Speaker 18: Well, not only that, we probably wouldn't be at the

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Speaker 18: point of a new chief right now right counting Terry,

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Speaker 18: others would possibly be in that seat that weren't negatively

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Speaker 18: impact by the political influence. That's a speculation, but it's

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Speaker 18: a educated speculation. As I was there, retired in twenty one,

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Speaker 18: thirty four years, so I had the opportunity to see it.

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Speaker 18: On that line, I'll let Kenny Coober speak on behalf

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Speaker 18: of Issue five. Hold on, I do have a point,

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Speaker 18: and I do agree with both Chris Smithman and Kenny's

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Speaker 18: point that something about Issue five has to be addressed,

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Speaker 18: whether it be removal or be a unanimous or majority

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Speaker 18: vote by counsel for such decisions to make. This is absolutely,

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Speaker 18: absolutely wasting the tax dollars. Unbelievable, not in an economy

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Speaker 18: that you can't afford to do it. You place somebody

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Speaker 18: on leave, then you hire a law firm to justify it.

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Speaker 2: I don't get that.

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Speaker 18: It's a gross misuse of resources. And the constituents of

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Speaker 18: the City of Cincinnati deserve better management and oversight of

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Speaker 18: their dollars, and they need better decisions. And I place

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Speaker 18: every bit of that at the foot of the mayor

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Speaker 18: and the city manager. So do with it what you want.

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Speaker 18: As a voter, It's not for me to say right,

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Speaker 18: for us to say right.

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Speaker 1: I'm assuming that your sister wants to stay on the job.

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Speaker 1: Is that a true and accurate statement or can you

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Speaker 1: say if you don't want to speak for that's fine,

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Speaker 1: But I'm just assuming that or she wouldn't be going.

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Speaker 2: Through all this.

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Speaker 18: I am not going to speak on behalf of Tarry,

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Speaker 18: on our future. And there are elements, Mike, of matters

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Speaker 18: that I will refrain from discussing because that is in

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Speaker 18: the hands of the lawyer, and we put our faith

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Speaker 18: in confidence in mister.

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Speaker 1: M He's a hell of a good lawyer from a

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Speaker 1: great law firm, the Finny Law Firm.

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Speaker 18: M I just think this it borders on in humane.

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Speaker 1: What really does It's unprofessional and it's not dignified for

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Speaker 1: someone who is the chief of police of a major

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Speaker 1: city police department. If you haven't figured it out, it

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Speaker 1: pisses me off. It's not right.

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Speaker 18: And I want to emphasize I appreciate our family, appreciates

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Speaker 18: Terry's supporters, appreciate you having us in allowing us a voice.

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Speaker 18: It's deeper than Chief thej It's deeper than Terry Thiji.

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Speaker 18: This is about more than Terry. It's about the proper

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Speaker 18: way to manage an organization, and it's about the future

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Speaker 18: of those who may want that seat going forward, Who

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Speaker 18: wants to work for a organization city that treats people

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Speaker 18: this way.

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Speaker 1: Exactly exactly, you know, I got to ask you this.

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Speaker 1: I ask every veteran police officer that I talked to,

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Speaker 1: and some of the ones on the street, who, of

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Speaker 1: course can't be public about it. I remember back in

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Speaker 1: the days I was in the city Prosecutor's office from

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Speaker 1: like nineteen eighty five to nineteen ninety and then a

739
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Speaker 1: couple of years after that municipal court judged for three years.

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Speaker 1: Those municipal court courtrooms were popped to the gills with

741
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Speaker 1: police officers in the jury boxes out in the hall.

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Speaker 1: My point is they were out there, you know, getting

743
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Speaker 1: stuff I don't want to say stirred up, but being aggressive,

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Speaker 1: appropriately aggressive, appropriately proactive. Do you would you agree with

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Speaker 1: me that we don't really need to, you know, reinvent

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Speaker 1: the wheel here. That's what needs to be done to

747
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Speaker 1: put the CPD back where it belongs. Get out, do

748
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Speaker 1: your job, and you know, make sure that you're going

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Speaker 1: to be covered if somebody complains, and you know they will.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's just my point.

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Speaker 1: And you know I don't go down to court anymore

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Speaker 1: I'm retired, recently retired. There's not like half the cases

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Speaker 1: there are down there anymore because I don't think that

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Speaker 1: the street people cops are doing anything.

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Speaker 2: And I don't blame them one I owe for that.

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Speaker 1: I don't. They want to go home. They want to

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Speaker 1: you know, be able to take care of their family.

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Speaker 1: So that's a long question, I.

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Speaker 18: Guess, yeah, I it is a very long question that

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Speaker 18: covers a range of topics. It would take more time

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Speaker 18: than we have today to discuss. I'm right, sious, But

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Speaker 18: what I will say is the officers continue to want

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Speaker 18: to do the job. They continue to want to be

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Speaker 18: PROAGNI granted I've been going four years, but based on

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Speaker 18: my conversations with Terry and others that I still have

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Speaker 18: contact with the desires there. The problem is clearly with

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Speaker 18: the lack of support and partnership with the courts and

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Speaker 18: the judges. And to be honest with you, mean with

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Speaker 18: bonds being set low, bonds are no bonds, no bonds,

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Speaker 18: low bonds, early releases ten, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen,

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Speaker 18: opportunities to go back out and victimize somebody. Yeah, before

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Speaker 18: you're held accountable. That's not the police department's responsibility. Their

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Speaker 18: responsibility is public safety the best they can what's in

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Speaker 18: front of them. Problem solving data analysis place people where

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Speaker 18: the problems are or where we know historically or recently

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Speaker 18: they may develop. And Terry does a fabulous job with that.

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Speaker 18: But if you're gonna lock them up, not just Terry, right,

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Speaker 18: the people that reported to her or the chief, the commanders,

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00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 18: the lieutenants, the release sergeants, the officers, the data analysis team.

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Speaker 18: They do a fabulous job with it. But if you're

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Speaker 18: going to do all of that work and take one

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Speaker 18: five ten folks to jail for an incident, and then

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Speaker 18: twelve hours later the one five ten folks are back

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Speaker 18: out in that community. So think about this. It doesn't

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Speaker 18: just affect those you arrested. The others see it. Others

786
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Speaker 18: within the community see it. The victims see it and

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Speaker 18: it causes.

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Speaker 2: Fear to them.

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Speaker 18: The other potential offenders see it and it takes away

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Speaker 18: any fear for them to get incarcerated. So it's such

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Speaker 18: a deeper issue, and that goes back to the vote.

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Speaker 18: But I'll be really honest with you, that's a long

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Speaker 18: term problem solving effort.

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Speaker 2: It is.

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Speaker 18: The reality here is it's the mayor that that, to

796
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Speaker 18: me is the topic at hand right now. And if

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Speaker 18: you believe new leadership is beneficial and necessary in the city,

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Speaker 18: vote think it through, Think it through, think it through,

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Speaker 18: and realize that this is not what's best for your communities.

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Speaker 18: This stuff all came about. Let me make a point.

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Speaker 18: Sure this stuff all came about. They can hide from it,

802
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Speaker 18: but it came about from the fact of an increase

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Speaker 18: in crime in the Central Business District. You know there's

804
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Speaker 18: ebb and flows, a crime like that throughout the city.

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Speaker 18: The police department focuses on them, gets them down, does

806
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Speaker 18: problem solving efforts they have success. You ever hear the

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00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 18: mayor talk about those No, do you ever hear the

808
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Speaker 18: mayor talk about the other fifty one communities in Cincinnati?

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Speaker 18: Do you ever hear the marrigan of a camera and say,

810
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Speaker 18: we can't tolerate this in bond Hill, we can't tolerate this.

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Speaker 18: In Price Hell, we can't tolerate this. In Westwood, we

812
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:10,240
Speaker 18: can't tolerate this. Guess what it happened in the Central

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Speaker 18: Business DEERCT and it's it's a shame. But the officers

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Speaker 18: in the organization, in partnership with others in the community

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Speaker 18: would get control of it, address it, and if the

816
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Speaker 18: judges would allow it, keep people from repeating not a

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Speaker 18: word out.

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Speaker 2: Of him regarding the other communities.

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Speaker 18: Why would you want to vote him in If his

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Speaker 18: true focus is soling in the central business district, which

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Speaker 18: is important, which is the hub, which is where the

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Speaker 18: majority of.

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Speaker 2: The money is to come into the city come in.

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Speaker 18: Because of various events, don't you think he should have

825
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 18: equal passion and concern about the other communities. One would think, well,

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Speaker 18: I don't see it. I didn't see it, and I

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Speaker 18: hope the voters recognize it. Give somebody else an opportunity, think,

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Speaker 18: think past your.

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Speaker 2: Comfort zone as a voter.

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Speaker 18: Give somebody else an opportunity to come in and focus

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Speaker 18: on the entire city. Focus in working with the council

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Speaker 18: and with a manager. Instead of dictating.

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Speaker 2: No, I got you.

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Speaker 1: Hey, we got about a minute and a half left, RUSSA,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it to you. What would you like

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Speaker 1: to say in summary? The first one want to say, thanks, Well,

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Speaker 1: it's my pleasure and my privilege.

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Speaker 18: Second, I want to say technology is not my area

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Speaker 18: by any stretching. It knows me too, So we're fortunate

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Speaker 18: to have nieces nephews that are on board with all

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Speaker 18: of this and support Terry as much as any of

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Speaker 18: us sitting in this room. We got some shirts and

843
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Speaker 18: we got some signs. Shirt reads I stand with Police.

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Speaker 18: I like it, Chiefdiji. The signs read the same. Some

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Speaker 18: family members, the younger ones, developed a Facebook page. I

846
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Speaker 18: know nothing about Facebook. I don't do it. On do

847
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Speaker 18: social media, and they also developed their initiated a email.

848
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Speaker 18: If you care to support Terry verbally, if you care

849
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Speaker 18: to support Terry just to show it in whatever way.

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Speaker 18: If you care to have a sign that we can

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Speaker 18: put on your property and your business window. We'd like

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Speaker 18: them in the city because that's where this message needs

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Speaker 18: to be heard. Or we'd like people who live in

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Speaker 18: the county near the city can do it, who have

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Speaker 18: connections in the city that can carry this message on.

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Speaker 18: We aren't stopping this is wrong. So the email is

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Speaker 18: stand with Chief Thiji at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 2: Okay, please communicate through it.

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Speaker 18: One of the younger nieces and nephews will manage it

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Speaker 18: and communicate back, and then the Facebook again, I don't

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Speaker 18: do it. I just know that it's I stand with

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Speaker 18: Police Chief Fiji. Facebook page should be easy to find

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Speaker 18: way back and off and my brother Rick and Mike

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Speaker 18: we talked a lot through this, and Rick brought it

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Speaker 18: up the other day and he said, flat out, Dad

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Speaker 18: taught us, don't start a fight, but one's one started.

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Speaker 2: One pushed on you finish it. We're finishing.

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Speaker 1: This doesn't surprise me at all. Giving your guys background

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Speaker 1: and your father, who I admired a lot, I really

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Speaker 1: appreciate this. This is helpful. People need to hear this, Russ,

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Speaker 1: and definitely want to have you back at some point.

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Speaker 18: Can you cover Mike at some point today? The voting

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Speaker 18: I did have a note in here about the voting

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Speaker 18: is on. When the hours are you still go to

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Speaker 18: early vote, and please if you haven't voted in years,

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00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 18: check and make see if you're still eligible.

877
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 2: Absolutely get online check it.

878
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 1: I've got Christopher Smithman coming on at eleven and he's

879
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:35,839
Speaker 1: got all that stuff down.

880
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:36,280
Speaker 7: Pat.

881
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 1: So all right, again, I really appreciate it, and you know,

882
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 1: anything else comes up, just give me a call.

883
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:44,359
Speaker 2: You'll be hearing.

884
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, all right, we got to take a

885
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 1: break for the news, but we will be back. Mike

886
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 1: Allen Saturday midday.

887
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 2: Trip for buyers visit Mike castercy.

888
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 1: Ford Saturday midday. I wanted to thank my last guest,

889
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 1: Russ Neville. I'll tell you that's a perspective that you're

890
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 1: not going to get anywhere else. And you know, one

891
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 1: of the things he said that is that his sister,

892
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 1: the police chief Chief Fiji, should be treated with dignity.

893
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 1: And that is just so true. Everybody needs to be

894
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:24,359
Speaker 1: treated with dignity, but especially someone who's put thirty three,

895
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 1: thirty four years into a job and has risen to

896
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: the top of that job. You don't make that person

897
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 1: collateral damage in a political fight.

898
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 2: You just don't do it.

899
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 1: But I really appreciate him coming up and giving it

900
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 1: to us from his perspective. I'm going to get back

901
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,839
Speaker 1: to the phones here. I promise one other thing I'd

902
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: like to do. Went to a retirement party yesterday for

903
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 1: a great man, talking about Danny Cott. He spent sixty

904
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 1: excuse me not that may twenty seven years with the

905
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Police Department. Retired all the way back in two

906
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 1: thousand and two, then twenty years with Rumky. He was

907
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 1: the corporate lost control manager at least that's where he started. Rumky,

908
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 1: a great family owned company, and Dan Cott twenty years

909
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 1: with Rumky, twenty seven with CPD. You sure deserve retirement

910
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 1: and it was great being a part of that yesterday. Okay,

911
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:23,280
Speaker 1: let's get to the phones. Let's talk to Patty. Hello, Patty,

912
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 1: he is.

913
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 19: Good morning, Mike Allen, and thank you so much for

914
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 19: your show. I learned so much important information.

915
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 7: Thank you.

916
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:35,360
Speaker 19: This is just a yes, sir. This is just a quick, small,

917
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 19: little scenario, an anecdote that occurred when I was walking

918
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 19: to the hardware store one morning, a little local one

919
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:49,760
Speaker 19: of our beautiful neighborhoods. And I'm walking up the curb

920
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 19: across the parking lot and I see a tall, handsome

921
00:53:56,120 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 19: man standing right at the curb, beautifully dressed, and I realize, oh,

922
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 19: my goodness, that is our mayor. Well, I walk past

923
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 19: him and I say good morning, mister mayor, you know,

924
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 19: excited as I am. He doesn't look at me, turns

925
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:23,839
Speaker 19: his head a skance wow, and lets.

926
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 7: Out a grunt.

927
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 19: He says ugh.

928
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 20: Wow, and all I proceed.

929
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 19: On into the hardware store, and Mike Allan, this is

930
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 19: a perfect example of that non mayor that we have

931
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 19: been stuck with. He does not love Cincinnati, and he

932
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:55,439
Speaker 19: has contempt for its citizens. The beautiful man you had

933
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:58,439
Speaker 19: on just previously, as well as some of your other

934
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 19: callers this morning, talk about the love of Cincinnati, and

935
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 19: there is not an out. He does not love us.

936
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 19: Can you imagine I'm a man or John Cranleigh if

937
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:20,439
Speaker 19: you said good morning, mister Smithman, that beautiful gentleman, would

938
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 19: he grunt?

939
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 7: I don't stop and talk to you?

940
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 19: Can imagine Bobby Stern, any of the malories. I can

941
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 19: go down the whole long list of leadership in this

942
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:34,799
Speaker 19: beautiful city since I have been here for fifty years. Man,

943
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:38,280
Speaker 19: And now we're stuck with this message.

944
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,319
Speaker 1: Well, you know what, I always kind of gave him

945
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 1: credit for being a good politician, But boy, that's just

946
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 1: not It's first of all, it's just right. See if

947
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 1: a voter acknowledges anybody acknowledges you, how.

948
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:57,800
Speaker 19: Hard cameras Mike Allen, no one's watching. All it is

949
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 19: is one citizen. He may as well have spipped. So

950
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 19: I just think it's a perfect characterization of Purvoal does

951
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 19: not love Cincinnati. And we've got a vote for someone

952
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 19: who does love Cincinnati. And we know that's Corey Bowman

953
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 19: because he's he lived in the city with the Cincinnatians,

954
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 19: and I just had to say that because I love

955
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,319
Speaker 19: this city and I hate to see what's happening. God,

956
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 19: bless you for telling the true stories.

957
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 7: I thank you.

958
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 1: I appreciate it, and thank you for your story too.

959
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:30,399
Speaker 1: I appreciate that.

960
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 7: Okay, good luck, Mikeelant, thank you, bye bye.

961
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:35,439
Speaker 14: Yeah.

962
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 1: I don't get that. I mean, it's just I don't

963
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 1: know that's manners one oh one. You would think, hey,

964
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 1: let's talk to Lisa. Hey, good morning, Lisa, Hey, my

965
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 1: what you got?

966
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 21: Okay? So my thing with the firing or the police Keith,

967
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 21: it was so off, you know, and it was like

968
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 21: the gentleman's dad. They were looking for a scapegoat, you know.

969
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 21: And I say that they should not have even approached that,

970
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:06,319
Speaker 21: you know, a fire trying to fire her and get

971
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 21: rid of her however it is they want to do.

972
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:09,720
Speaker 12: But I am old school.

973
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 21: Everything begins at home. If the children were raised by parents,

974
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 21: you know, by adults, and the way that the children

975
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 21: are acting behaving today is it's horrible, you know. You

976
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 21: got some of the parents are scared of their own children.

977
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 21: They are scared to discipline their own children. And some

978
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 21: of the children they are literally raising themselves. So I

979
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 21: believe a lot of the problems not just in Cincinnati,

980
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 21: but in America altogether. If the parents would just pull

981
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 21: up their bootstraps, do what it is that they need

982
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 21: to do and parents, America would be a better place.

983
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 21: That's all I have to say.

984
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank.

985
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 1: You, Lisa, you know, and she is so right. And

986
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 1: fifty one years in the criminal justice system, you see

987
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 1: that in spades. I mean, you know, young people getting

988
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 1: in trouble, juveniles, no family over seeing them almost all

989
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 1: not I shouldn't say many times no father and the

990
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 1: parents do have to do their jobs. And that's relevant

991
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 1: to what's going on in Cincinnati too. I mean, you know,

992
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 1: I think CPD has done a pretty good job on it,

993
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 1: especially recently. You know where these kids are roaming around

994
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 1: downtown at all hours of the night. What the hell

995
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 1: are the parents, you know, where are they? What are

996
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 1: they doing to rain their kids in? And I don't know,

997
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 1: she's absolutely right about that. Let me see, let me see.

998
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 1: How about let's talk to Mike and Hamilton.

999
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 7: Hey, good morning, Mike, Hey Mike.

1000
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, thank you you too.

1001
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 22: I'd like to say that the first thing is is

1002
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 22: anybody that becomes a police officer is trying to give

1003
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 22: back to their country.

1004
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 20: This is about taking our society what it is.

1005
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 22: Without police officers are crumbles and when they need more

1006
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 22: police for they need more police officers on the street,

1007
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 22: and and they have to get them.

1008
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 20: That's the key.

1009
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 14: And when you said.

1010
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 7: Where are the parents of those kids?

1011
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 20: Some of those parents might be working nights that take

1012
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 20: care of them.

1013
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 22: And I think it's a society.

1014
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 20: We got to change how.

1015
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 22: We think about a lot of things, and if we don't,

1016
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 22: we're going to crumble. You know, you have the military

1017
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:28,959
Speaker 22: that's risking their lives, the police, the fire department, those

1018
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 22: people are doing that, and in a split second we

1019
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 22: judge them on things that happened that you know what

1020
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 22: I mean. I wish, I hope I'm not judged like

1021
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 22: a police officer on some small mistake, which in the

1022
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 22: situation could be something that's.

1023
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 20: Very, very bad. But I have a split second.

1024
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 22: To think about this, and we're so easy and quipped

1025
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 22: to judge them, and I just want to say that

1026
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 22: we've got to change it. And Mike, I know you

1027
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 22: probably don't want to hear this, but every person gets

1028
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 22: arrested should be drug tested. We need these people to

1029
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 22: become workers and part of our society and not a

1030
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 22: retating criminal.

1031
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 20: We should make him do some sort of rehab.

1032
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 22: They should be out cleaning roads, and then we should

1033
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 22: try and work with younger people to try and get

1034
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 22: them to.

1035
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 20: Become people that we know they can be.

1036
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 22: And right now on.

1037
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 20: Our society, we just don't have that. We don't and

1038
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 20: it's got to change. It's got to change. And Republicans

1039
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 20: and Democrats, just.

1040
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:24,400
Speaker 22: Like right now, I heard an FBI agent had to

1041
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 22: took the part time job because he's not getting paid.

1042
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:31,920
Speaker 22: Why we have our congressional people getting paid while this

1043
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 22: young gentleman had to take a second job just to

1044
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 22: make sure he can support his family.

1045
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 20: While we're sitting here with our thumbs up our.

1046
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 7: Butt No, I hear you.

1047
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 2: I appreciate it.

1048
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 7: Thank you.

1049
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what Mike said a lot of things

1050
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 1: that makes sense, but the one thing that hit me.

1051
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 1: He talked about we need to have rehabilitation, meaning treatment

1052
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 1: for people that are dependent upon drugs. I could not

1053
01:00:57,160 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 1: agree with that more. I'll tell you you go down

1054
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 1: down there to the jail, and by the way, Sheriff

1055
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 1: McGuffey has that great program down there that helps along

1056
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 1: those lines, and the people that have done at the

1057
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 1: Justice Center. That's not long term, it's short term. And

1058
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 1: I don't know, I just uh, I admire her for

1059
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 1: doing that. We need more rehab, and I have a

1060
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 1: lot of people saying, how the hell with it?

1061
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 2: You know, they made the decision to you know, get

1062
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 2: into drugs.

1063
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 1: Screw him. And that's not a number one, it's just

1064
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 1: not right. Number two, it doesn't make sense. So I'm

1065
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 1: all about rehab, and he brought that up. So I

1066
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 1: wanted to pontificate if you will. Hey, we still got

1067
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 1: some time here, how's about let me talk to Dan

1068
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 1: and chevyot Hello?

1069
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 9: Dan, Hey, Mike, what's going on?

1070
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 23: Hey?

1071
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 9: I wanted to give a shout out to that gentleman,

1072
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 9: dam you want to retirement Barty?

1073
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 24: Yeah, Danny, Well, he came in shopping for his daughter

1074
01:01:57,760 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 24: about four or five years back, and he just you know,

1075
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:00,920
Speaker 24: it's just a.

1076
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 9: Regular dude, and he was real nice to talk to him, friendly,

1077
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 9: and at the end he asked if he could talk

1078
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 9: to the supervisor and gave me some kind words, and

1079
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 9: then he actually went back to work and on like

1080
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:14,640
Speaker 9: a full rum key letterhead and envelope sent a personal

1081
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 9: letter of recommendation for me.

1082
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:16,919
Speaker 7: Wow.

1083
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:18,919
Speaker 9: They thought it was a rumpky bill, so they threw

1084
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 9: it on the operations manager's death and then like four

1085
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 9: or five days later they open it and go, well,

1086
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:26,480
Speaker 9: this isn't just a bill. So they scanned it and

1087
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 9: sent it to my home office and it actually got

1088
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 9: my fifth out of sixth Stoll for Customer Service Awards. Yes,

1089
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 9: and I keep that in case I ever need another job,

1090
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 9: because he gave me some kind words. So I just

1091
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 9: wanted to give a shout out to him since.

1092
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 7: He helped me.

1093
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 2: I appreciate that. Dan, thank you. That's very kind.

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Speaker 1: And you know, those that know him Dan Cott that

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Speaker 1: that doesn't surprise me at all. That's just kind of

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Speaker 1: the guy he is. But I really appreciate him sharing that.

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Speaker 1: You know, a guy goes twenty seven years in the

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Speaker 1: police department, twenty more years with rumky. I think he's

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Speaker 1: serving his community. Well, okay, let's see how's about Steve.

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Speaker 1: Steve is an Aldegrand. I don't know why I didn't

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Speaker 1: get him first. Hello, Steve, are you there?

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Speaker 6: My elder in nineteen seventy.

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Speaker 23: Four, Me too, buddy, You were one of them smart guys.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I'll take it, but it's not not really accurate.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, what you got.

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Speaker 6: For me my question. The house I moved into in

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Speaker 6: nineteen eighty seven, the city put a tree out in

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Speaker 6: front of the sidewalk at the street. At the curb.

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Speaker 6: The tree is like two and a half feet for

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Speaker 6: my sidewalk. All I did was dig a hole, drop

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Speaker 6: it in and say see you later. You know, thirty

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Speaker 6: some years later, the sidewalks.

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Speaker 7: On tour up. O. Yeah, pushing it up.

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Speaker 6: My thing is, can I take them to small Claims

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Speaker 6: Court and go after negligence the three elements of negligence

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Speaker 6: that have proof from other arborist. Sure, the tree that's

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Speaker 6: going to grow fifty foot tall two feet from the

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Speaker 6: sidewalk in front of your house, and argue that it's

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Speaker 6: not maintenance. They say it's maintenance, it's negligence.

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Speaker 2: Yep, I hear you. And here's what you do.

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Speaker 1: You will need an arborist, I think, to give an opinion,

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Speaker 1: whether that would be through testimony or through an affidavit

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Speaker 1: or something like that. Small Claims Court is set up

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Speaker 1: for people not to have lawyers, and I haven't had

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Speaker 1: a lot of contact with it through the years. But

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Speaker 1: the contact I've had, I think they do an amazing

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Speaker 1: job of kind of sorting those things out.

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Speaker 2: I would give it a shot.

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Speaker 1: I think, I think I might be wrong, but I

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Speaker 1: think the money limit in small claims is twenty five thousand.

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Speaker 1: I haven't looked at it in a while, but it

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Speaker 1: sounds to me like you got a good case.

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Speaker 7: The cost to remove tree, let's say it's a thousand

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Speaker 7: dollars each slab that damn me is eight hundred bucks,

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Speaker 7: so you know we're way under that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what you do. It's easy to It's easy

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Speaker 1: to do that in small club.

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Speaker 7: Do I have to serve them with the with the paperwork?

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Speaker 1: Well, actually the I think the clerk will do that.

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Speaker 1: If I'm not, I.

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Speaker 7: Don't have to like serve them. Okay, now, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, well, good, good luck with it?

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Speaker 7: All right, I'll let you know.

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Speaker 1: Okay, thanks Steve, all right, thank you, sir. Okay, got

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Speaker 1: time I think for at least one more. Let me

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Speaker 1: talk to uh Ransom.

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Speaker 2: How you doing?

1148
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Speaker 1: Are?

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Speaker 25: Ransom and Mike spent a couple of minutes vin since

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Speaker 25: we talk last yeally many I've just been a listen

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Speaker 25: to all the callers and everything I wanted to. I

1152
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:49,280
Speaker 25: know you got a lot of Christian people that listen

1153
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:53,040
Speaker 25: to your program on Saturdays. And about ten months ago,

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Speaker 25: I tried to start a group called Primary USA that

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Speaker 25: would get Grant's roots effort to hold local, state, and

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Speaker 25: federal politicians accountable to the will of the people kind

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Speaker 25: of lines up everything You've talked about for you and

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Speaker 25: I've talked about for about the last year. I've got

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Speaker 25: a meet I've got a meeting with the Great Lakes

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Speaker 25: Lady from Turning Point USA Faith on Wednesday four thirty,

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Speaker 25: four thirty to five on video. What I want to

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Speaker 25: do is I want to see if I can network

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Speaker 25: with Turning Point, which everybody should know that's Charlie Kirk's

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Speaker 25: organization that Charlie founded. Charlie had humble beginnings. An eighteen

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Speaker 25: year old kid had a vision, you know, and he

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Speaker 25: was one person. I'm a sixty six year old guy.

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Speaker 25: I tried to run for a small political office up

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Speaker 25: in Columbus where I live. I got beat by three votes.

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Speaker 25: I learned about it. I learned about the political process

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Speaker 25: and everything you talk about every Saturday. You and I

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Speaker 25: both agree about Christian values and things like that. It's

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Speaker 25: all about the spiritual things that's going on. God saved

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Speaker 25: Donald Trump. Unfortunately Charlie was assassinated, but there's been one

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Speaker 25: point five billion people on the planet that has seen

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Speaker 25: his memorial service and his organization has Wow, went through

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Speaker 25: the roof.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty impressive. Unfortunately, I'm running out of time here, but.

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Speaker 7: I appreciate you taking play for me. I appreciate you man, absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Okay, thank you bye bye.

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Speaker 14: Uh.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. We all are out of time. I'm not

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Speaker 1: able to get to all the calls. I hate when

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Speaker 1: that happens. Call back next week, please, Hey, we got

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Speaker 1: to take a break. But when we get back, we're

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Speaker 1: going to talk to Christopher Smithman. Something tells me he's

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Speaker 1: going to have an opinion on all this stuff with

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Speaker 1: the City of Cincinnati. And we'll talk to Christopher when

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Speaker 1: we get back. Mike Allen Saturday Midday.

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Speaker 26: With Deve Lapham's in triment into the Bengals Ring of Honor,

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Speaker 26: we pay tribute to the life of lap.

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Speaker 7: Presented by Skyline. Feeling good. He's Skyline time. Now here's

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Speaker 7: Dan and d Lapp.

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Speaker 2: You are the starting left guard in the Bengals first

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl appearance.

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Speaker 17: Describe running out of the tunnel to face the forty

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Speaker 17: nine ers that day in Detroit.

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Speaker 27: You know, you focused laser focus on what you need

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Speaker 27: to do to play well. You don't want to go

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Speaker 27: out there forever be known as the stiff that played

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Speaker 27: so poorly.

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Speaker 2: This team had no shot.

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Speaker 27: You just got tooled and taken advantage of to the

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Speaker 27: point of ridiculousness. You didn't want that to happen. But

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Speaker 27: I do remember I roomed with Kenny Anderson. He would

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Speaker 27: tell me to throw a play out there and he'd

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Speaker 27: do the formation and everything with it, and then the reverse.

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Speaker 27: I'd do a formation, he do plays with that formation,

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Speaker 27: whatever the case may be. I basically studied my game

1209
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:51,360
Speaker 27: plan out in the field, plays, goal line, short yardage.

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Speaker 27: I wanted to make sure that I was on top

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Speaker 27: of all of it. Any Innerston I think was a

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Speaker 27: big influence to me in that regard as well.

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Speaker 26: For more on the life of Lap keep it here

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Speaker 26: on seven hundred WLW, the Home of the best Spangals coverage.

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Speaker 28: Have you taken your family to dinner recently and been

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01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:11,040
Speaker 28: shocked by the price of that bill? Listen, Recent studies

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Speaker 28: are seeing there's almost forty trillion dollars.

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Speaker 1: News Radio seven hundred WLW Mike Allen with our three

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Speaker 1: third and final hour of Saturday Midday. Well, I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you what we've been talking about it all morning, and

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Speaker 1: that's the situation with the City of Cincinnati with the

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Speaker 1: election coming up, and just the disrespectful treatment that the

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Speaker 1: chief of Police, Chief Fiji has gotten. It's just, in

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Speaker 1: my opinion, it's just reprehensible. Here to talk about it

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Speaker 1: is former Vice mayor, former chair of the Law and

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Speaker 1: Public Safety Committee, and financial advisor par excellence, Christopher Smithman. Christopher,

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Speaker 1: thanks so much for calling in.

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Speaker 14: Thank you, Mike. I so appreciate you having me on,

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Speaker 14: and I've been listening to your show.

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Speaker 7: And let me.

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Speaker 14: Give a shout out to Captain Neville, who he was

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Speaker 14: a great police officer and servant like his sister Chickspiji.

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Speaker 14: What a wonderful family, and you've done a beautiful job

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Speaker 14: of making it clear to your listening audience. Tell you,

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Speaker 14: the most riveting thing that I heard, the most riveting

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Speaker 14: thing that I heard this morning was the citizen who

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Speaker 14: called in and said she had this this bad interaction

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Speaker 14: with our mayor kind of stummed it up. For me, right,

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Speaker 14: Like it's like a detail, but that detail is really

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Speaker 14: important because you said it was bad politics. But even

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Speaker 14: if it was being bad politics, just a rewind on that.

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Speaker 14: The citizen said she saw our mayor. She said good

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Speaker 14: morning to the mayor at a at a home depot,

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Speaker 14: and the mayor was dismissed, and it left her with

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Speaker 14: the sense that our mayor really isn't interested in being

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Speaker 14: the mayor. And I agree with that sentiment. Like he

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01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:11,800
Speaker 14: has these attitudes. That is why he can try to

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Speaker 14: destroy the reputation of a neble like he's doing, because

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Speaker 14: he's disconnected from us. I love Cincinnadians. I breed it,

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Speaker 14: I eat it, I love it. That's the only reason

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Speaker 14: I'm coming back. I don't have to come back. I'm

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Speaker 14: trying to come back because things are so crazy and

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Speaker 14: we have to have common sense and experience on this council.

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Speaker 14: And I'll say one of the things before I pivot

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Speaker 14: away from this is notice how the citizen talked about

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Speaker 14: Cincinnatians like Bobby Stern. Right. The reflection was, you remember

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Speaker 14: the days where you had real states people that were

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Speaker 14: serving like a tyrone yate as an example, Right, So

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Speaker 14: these are people that have served us, and it clearly

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Speaker 14: right now. Collectively we have a council who seems to

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Speaker 14: be very, very disconnected. And I'll give this example, how

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Speaker 14: in the world could you have a police chief terminated

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Speaker 14: in this fashion? And this past Wednesday, no member of

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Speaker 14: council bring it up.

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Speaker 7: Oh is that realbody?

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Speaker 14: Nobody talked about it on the floor council. There was

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Speaker 14: literally no discussion, like it never happened.

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Speaker 1: It's like they don't know what they're doing. I mean

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Speaker 1: you probably, I'm sure you saw it, Christopher. The mayor

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Speaker 1: comes out then and so so now wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: wait a minute. I am going to instruct the police

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Speaker 1: department to start focusing on these small crimes, which is

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Speaker 1: really what should have been done all along. But I

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Speaker 1: think it's a little schizophrenic, don't you.

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Speaker 14: I really do what you have right now? And I

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Speaker 14: think Captain Neville Russ Neville really made it clear with

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Speaker 14: one word scapegoat.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 14: You know, you have a situation here where the mayor

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Speaker 14: is feeling the heat. He doesn't really know where he

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Speaker 14: is with the electorate because there could be this silent

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Speaker 14: majority out here people that are saying I want to

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Speaker 14: change and I want to go with Voteman. Nobody knows,

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Speaker 14: but I could tell you that if Westsiders are listening

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Speaker 14: to you and listening to your show, and we already

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Speaker 14: know the voter turnout is low, and we also know

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Speaker 14: that traditional voters only show up on November the fourth, yep, right,

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Speaker 14: And so think about if there's a wave on election

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Speaker 14: day where those conservative Republican blue dog Democrats who won't

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Speaker 14: vote in the thirty days because they don't believe in

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Speaker 14: voting thirty days early, if they all show up, Wat's

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Speaker 14: what happens.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you.

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Speaker 14: It will change the total complexion of council, and it

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Speaker 14: will change the total it will change the Mayor's office.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, and for the mayor to make such

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Speaker 1: an abrupt about face on that issue of you know,

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Speaker 1: the Giuliani method enforcing all offenses and things like that,

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Speaker 1: I kind of wonder if maybe there's some polling or

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Speaker 1: something out there that says this is going to be

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Speaker 1: a competitive race.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. That's nothing more than me speculating.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, but at the end of the day, we know that,

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Speaker 14: you know, collectively, we've crime is really high right now,

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Speaker 14: and you know this notion where the mayor has been

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Speaker 14: saying that it's just our what our perception when you

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Speaker 14: and I know that it is the reality. No, you're

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01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:38,280
Speaker 14: right right, it'sn't our reality. So why would you fire

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01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:42,719
Speaker 14: the police chief If everything's okay, If you've been telling

1310
01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:46,040
Speaker 14: everybody that that crime is low, it means that the

1311
01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:49,000
Speaker 14: what that the that the police chief has been doing

1312
01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:49,719
Speaker 14: a good job.

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01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:50,160
Speaker 2: Right.

1314
01:14:50,479 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 14: So he said that in every debate against Corey Bowman.

1315
01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:57,760
Speaker 14: So if that's true, why then do you need to

1316
01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:01,960
Speaker 14: fire the person who is responsible for low crime? So

1317
01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:04,320
Speaker 14: we can't have it both ways. You can't turn around

1318
01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:08,519
Speaker 14: and say one thing like hey, hey, Cincinnatians, crime is low.

1319
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:13,040
Speaker 14: This is just your perception, and then say no, we've

1320
01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:16,160
Speaker 14: got to change because crime is I guess high, and

1321
01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:18,479
Speaker 14: this police chief isn't doing a good job. We're going

1322
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:22,479
Speaker 14: to hire this outside consultant, in my opinion, to try

1323
01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:26,040
Speaker 14: to bury the police chief and say hey, we already

1324
01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:28,320
Speaker 14: know where we're going with it. We're gonna spend a

1325
01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:32,559
Speaker 14: million dollars on this outside council so that we're gonna

1326
01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:35,479
Speaker 14: have some documentation. I'll say one thing, and I know

1327
01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 14: I'm talkative here, but this police chief in thirty five years,

1328
01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:46,120
Speaker 14: has never had a citation of anything bad in her record. Ever,

1329
01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:49,320
Speaker 14: this is the first time she's ever had a run in.

1330
01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:52,280
Speaker 14: So it's gonna be difficult to the mayor and his

1331
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:54,679
Speaker 14: staff who are listening to this. To the city manager

1332
01:15:55,160 --> 01:15:57,920
Speaker 14: and members of council, it's gonna be very difficult for

1333
01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:00,879
Speaker 14: you to go before a judge and try to blame

1334
01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:05,519
Speaker 14: this police chief for high crime when the mayor has

1335
01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:10,160
Speaker 14: been saying crime is low and commending her on her job.

1336
01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:13,760
Speaker 14: So this is going to cost the taxpayers at least

1337
01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:16,559
Speaker 14: a million dollars at the end when they settle it,

1338
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:20,639
Speaker 14: and it will cost the fire chief, who also they

1339
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:23,800
Speaker 14: terminated in a foul way, in a poor way. It

1340
01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:27,640
Speaker 14: probably will cost three, four or five million dollars for

1341
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:30,519
Speaker 14: Chief Washington. So I don't get it. I don't know

1342
01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 14: what they're doing here, Mike Allen. All I can tell

1343
01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:36,160
Speaker 14: you is right now, we need voters to show up.

1344
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:39,960
Speaker 14: You know, voting is an action if you care about what,

1345
01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:43,200
Speaker 14: if you care about your city, we desperately need you

1346
01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:47,120
Speaker 14: to show up and participate in this election, desperately.

1347
01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:49,200
Speaker 2: No question. What's the situation with the early voting.

1348
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:52,680
Speaker 1: I know it's going on now, but it stops at

1349
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:54,960
Speaker 1: a certain point, doesn't it.

1350
01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:58,679
Speaker 14: It does. It stops in a week Sunday of next week.

1351
01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:02,000
Speaker 14: This time week is the last time you could go

1352
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:06,720
Speaker 14: to the Norwood location and vote in person early. But

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01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:09,840
Speaker 14: like I said, let's say voter turnout right now is

1354
01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:14,120
Speaker 14: fifteen percent of eighty five percent of registered voters haven't

1355
01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:18,920
Speaker 14: shown up and right now aren't participating eighty five Right now,

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01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:22,320
Speaker 14: we're doing door to door work right in a neighborhood

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01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:25,240
Speaker 14: right now, and we know when we get ten doors

1358
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:28,280
Speaker 14: right eight of them aren't showing even though they're registered

1359
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:31,760
Speaker 14: to vote. It's like looking for a diamond in the rough.

1360
01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:34,479
Speaker 14: You don't know who's ultimately going to show up. But

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01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:38,439
Speaker 14: things like this, moments like this in time, right when

1362
01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:40,759
Speaker 14: you think about it, I'm not exaggerating here in public,

1363
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:43,599
Speaker 14: I'm not when you think about people who have served

1364
01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:48,040
Speaker 14: our country, right military, people who've given their life so

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01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:49,880
Speaker 14: that we have a flag that we can put on

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01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:52,320
Speaker 14: the outside of our house. When you have people like

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01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:55,759
Speaker 14: chif Fiji who've given thirty five years of her life

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01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:59,000
Speaker 14: in service to our city, protecting us every day from

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01:17:59,040 --> 01:18:02,280
Speaker 14: bad people from crawling into our windows and hurting us,

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01:18:02,320 --> 01:18:05,799
Speaker 14: really bad. Like what happens is Sarah and Patrick hearing

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01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:09,040
Speaker 14: her down in OTR. These are people that are giving

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01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:12,960
Speaker 14: us everything. Why wouldn't we show up right now? For

1373
01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:17,080
Speaker 14: Chiefs Fiji. Now, look, Mike, there might be points where

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01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:20,679
Speaker 14: I've disagreed with the direction of the chiefs. Okay, that's

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01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:25,560
Speaker 14: with any professional. But there's no way in my imagination

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01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:30,080
Speaker 14: would I ever believe that they would dehumanize and treat

1377
01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:33,080
Speaker 14: her the way they are treating her right now. This

1378
01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:38,000
Speaker 14: is just absolutely wrong. And it's now time for the jury.

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01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:41,920
Speaker 14: The jury are the voters to show up and show

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01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:45,720
Speaker 14: out and participate. And we need voter turnout to go

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01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:50,200
Speaker 14: from fifteen percent to fifty percent, from fifteen percent to

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01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:54,080
Speaker 14: eighty five percent. And so I'll in there with those comments.

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01:18:54,439 --> 01:18:57,640
Speaker 14: Love is a verb. When my wife passed away and

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01:18:57,720 --> 01:19:00,639
Speaker 14: through our marriage, we would always say love is a verb.

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01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:04,040
Speaker 14: Don't tell me you love me, show me you love me.

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01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:04,680
Speaker 2: There you go.

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01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:05,759
Speaker 7: If you love our.

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01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:08,519
Speaker 14: City the way I love it, I love the Queen City.

1389
01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:12,240
Speaker 14: If you love your neighbor the way I love my neighbors,

1390
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:15,440
Speaker 14: this is the time for the jury box, which are voters,

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01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:18,920
Speaker 14: to show up and reject the direction of our city

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01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:22,640
Speaker 14: by saying no to this leadership and bringing in some

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01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:24,400
Speaker 14: help with with some new names.

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01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:26,080
Speaker 2: I gotcha. Let me ask you this.

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01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:28,120
Speaker 1: And I used to go door to door too when

1396
01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:30,960
Speaker 1: I was running for the stuff, going door to door

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01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:33,680
Speaker 1: the ones that you're able to connect with and yea,

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01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:37,200
Speaker 1: I have a small conversation with Are you seeing that

1399
01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:41,320
Speaker 1: they're as concerned about the crime issue as you and

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01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:43,240
Speaker 1: I are or even close to that?

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01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:46,879
Speaker 2: What are you learning through that they.

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01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:50,400
Speaker 14: Are very concerned And it doesn't matter whether we're talking

1403
01:19:50,439 --> 01:19:54,040
Speaker 14: to black voters or write voters, our Latino voters. Everybody

1404
01:19:54,160 --> 01:19:56,920
Speaker 14: is saying the same thing and out name neighborhoods like

1405
01:19:57,040 --> 01:19:59,120
Speaker 14: we're in bond here. We did that door to door

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01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:01,679
Speaker 14: rose on. Anybody listening, they'll say, yes, I got someone

1407
01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:05,000
Speaker 14: Smithman's literature at my door. I mean, we're really doing

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01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:07,120
Speaker 14: aggressive door to door work. So I don't want to

1409
01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:10,240
Speaker 14: I don't want to mislead your your your listening audiences

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01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:12,960
Speaker 14: that we're not doing it. We're doing it. We're in

1411
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:16,720
Speaker 14: Columbia telsculum to day, door to door. Here's what citizens

1412
01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:19,960
Speaker 14: are saying. They're scared as hell and they're worried about

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01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:24,120
Speaker 14: going into downtown and being hurt. Right They're concerned about

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01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:27,040
Speaker 14: their city. They're concerned about the leadership things that there is,

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01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:29,519
Speaker 14: the things that they're saying. They're not even getting to

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01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:32,559
Speaker 14: the basics of whether their streets are being plowed or

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01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:37,720
Speaker 14: whether they're potholes. Right now. This is about I'm concerned

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01:20:37,760 --> 01:20:41,599
Speaker 14: about my personhood right now, concerned when they see somebody

1419
01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:46,160
Speaker 14: shooting on Fountain Square and you have a consultant saying, Hey,

1420
01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:48,120
Speaker 14: I'm going to go down there, and I'm concerned about

1421
01:20:48,160 --> 01:20:52,200
Speaker 14: the babies. Look, there's a difference between our children who

1422
01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:54,760
Speaker 14: are at home doing their homework wherever they go to

1423
01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:57,879
Speaker 14: a Cincinnati public school or a private school, and somebody

1424
01:20:57,880 --> 01:21:00,800
Speaker 14: who decides to take a weapon and charge it on

1425
01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:04,640
Speaker 14: Fountain Square. The context of that is so crazy. And

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01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:07,360
Speaker 14: when you think about what happened at Fifth Third, we

1427
01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:11,880
Speaker 14: had our officers Cincinnati three D. Let's never forget we

1428
01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:14,479
Speaker 14: had an active shooter when I was the vice mayor

1429
01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:17,960
Speaker 14: and John Cranley was the mayor inside of the fifth

1430
01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:23,000
Speaker 14: third building on Fountain Square. Yet shooting on Fountain Square,

1431
01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:27,519
Speaker 14: it feels like a terrorist attack. You don't know what's

1432
01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:31,240
Speaker 14: going on, and when you create that kind of uncertainty,

1433
01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:36,160
Speaker 14: for our corporate leaders, whether it's Jeff Ruby who said, hey,

1434
01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:38,760
Speaker 14: his daughter said, you know, these are good people. They

1435
01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:40,800
Speaker 14: love the city. They don't want to hurt the city.

1436
01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:42,679
Speaker 14: But they're saying, hey, we're going to move our catering

1437
01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:45,559
Speaker 14: business to another location. They don't want to connect it

1438
01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:47,720
Speaker 14: to the crime. But the reality of it is, that's

1439
01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:51,439
Speaker 14: what's happening when you see Tastes of Belgium and OTR

1440
01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:54,760
Speaker 14: saying they're moving out. Here's what I'm trying to say,

1441
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:58,439
Speaker 14: Mike Allah. If we don't you as a prosecutor from

1442
01:21:58,479 --> 01:22:00,639
Speaker 14: a prosecutor, if we don't get content all of the crime,

1443
01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:03,880
Speaker 14: there is no development. There are no tools, there's no

1444
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:09,439
Speaker 14: tourism right. There are no visitors from Mason Kinwood, Indian Hill,

1445
01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:13,960
Speaker 14: Amberley Village, wherever you want to there. Our region needs

1446
01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:18,120
Speaker 14: the core to be healthy financially and to make sure

1447
01:22:18,160 --> 01:22:20,920
Speaker 14: that it's safe and without it, the rest of our

1448
01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:24,360
Speaker 14: mayor's around, whether it's Reading mayor or whether it's the

1449
01:22:24,439 --> 01:22:28,280
Speaker 14: Saint Bernard mayor there, they are not gonna be our

1450
01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:31,479
Speaker 14: partners with their residents coming into the court because they

1451
01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:34,799
Speaker 14: don't feel safe. So we want to turn our city around.

1452
01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:37,920
Speaker 14: We're gonna have to change the direction, which means the

1453
01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:44,360
Speaker 14: keeping of good and a Lakita Cole A dree House.

1454
01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:49,600
Speaker 14: I'm giving a Linda Matthews. Right, we're gonna I'm just

1455
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:52,040
Speaker 14: naming some of the people that are running. A Corey

1456
01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:55,320
Speaker 14: Bowman who's running for mayor. We're gonna have to this

1457
01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:58,960
Speaker 14: notion that we keep talking about who Corey Bowman's brother is.

1458
01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:03,040
Speaker 14: I don't give care. I don't care, Mike Alan. The

1459
01:23:03,120 --> 01:23:06,240
Speaker 14: only thing I care about is the city and getting

1460
01:23:06,280 --> 01:23:09,640
Speaker 14: somebody in that chair who loves Cincinnati as much as

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01:23:09,680 --> 01:23:10,200
Speaker 14: I love it.

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01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:14,240
Speaker 1: Yep, I hear you. Chris, Hey, listen. Unfortunately we're out

1463
01:23:14,240 --> 01:23:16,800
Speaker 1: of time. That really appreciates you taking time out of

1464
01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:18,800
Speaker 1: banging on doors to talk to us.

1465
01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:19,760
Speaker 2: And we'll definitely be.

1466
01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:24,000
Speaker 14: Talking to you, my gallant, and I appreciate you. And anybody

1467
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:27,599
Speaker 14: that wants to follow me go to my ex account

1468
01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:31,400
Speaker 14: at vote Smitherman so you can keep up with what

1469
01:23:31,439 --> 01:23:34,000
Speaker 14: we're doing. Thank you, brother, Okay.

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01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:36,000
Speaker 2: My pleasure. Thank you. Christopher. All right.

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01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:39,920
Speaker 1: Christopher Smithman never shy about giving his point of view,

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01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:43,240
Speaker 1: and it's a point of view that is needed on counsel.

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01:23:43,439 --> 01:23:48,439
Speaker 1: And I'm feeling pretty optimistic about that. If anyone can

1474
01:23:48,479 --> 01:23:54,599
Speaker 1: break through the Democrat block of granted, it's him, so

1475
01:23:54,680 --> 01:23:57,240
Speaker 1: support him any way that you can. Hey, we got

1476
01:23:57,240 --> 01:23:59,200
Speaker 1: to take a break, but when we get back, we're

1477
01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:02,080
Speaker 1: going to continue talking on the topic we've talked about

1478
01:24:02,080 --> 01:24:07,480
Speaker 1: all morning, Cincinnati Police Department, the treatment of Chief Fiji

1479
01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:12,120
Speaker 1: and Ken Kober. Looks like the FOP is going to

1480
01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:16,639
Speaker 1: at least be supportive of an effort to repeal Issue five.

1481
01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:19,240
Speaker 1: And I'm going to ask Ken about that specifically. We'll

1482
01:24:19,240 --> 01:24:22,200
Speaker 1: do that when we get back. Mike Allen, Saturday midday.

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01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:26,960
Speaker 26: Listening to a man cook dinner for his date isn't

1484
01:24:27,080 --> 01:24:30,720
Speaker 26: fun Try this baby listening to her reaction after she

1485
01:24:30,880 --> 01:24:32,639
Speaker 26: eats he's under cooked chicken.

1486
01:24:32,840 --> 01:24:33,880
Speaker 2: You don't feel so well.

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01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:38,200
Speaker 7: He is funny. Eddie and Rocky are also funny.

1488
01:24:38,439 --> 01:24:41,719
Speaker 26: So when you think of date spewing raw chicken chunks

1489
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:46,320
Speaker 26: like a fire hose, thing of Eddie and Rocky.

1490
01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:52,360
Speaker 16: Eddie and Rocky Monday afternoon at three seven hundred WLW.

1491
01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:56,559
Speaker 2: At Duke Energy, we're making Ohio and Kentucky's energy grids

1492
01:24:56,600 --> 01:25:00,439
Speaker 2: stronger and more resilient, ready for storms and growing energy

1493
01:25:00,479 --> 01:25:01,879
Speaker 2: demands were.

1494
01:25:04,840 --> 01:25:10,040
Speaker 1: Eleven thirty nine News Radio seven hundred WLWMI gallon Saturday midday,

1495
01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:14,519
Speaker 1: closing half hour of saying, well, we've been talking about

1496
01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:17,960
Speaker 1: it all morning with a number of different people, the status,

1497
01:25:18,120 --> 01:25:22,680
Speaker 1: the situation of the treatment of the police chief and

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01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:25,920
Speaker 1: using her as a political pawn, and I certainly think

1499
01:25:26,400 --> 01:25:30,640
Speaker 1: both of those things are true and it's reprehensible.

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01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:31,879
Speaker 7: It shouldn't be happening.

1501
01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:35,559
Speaker 1: The other thing I saw yesterday which sure made my

1502
01:25:35,720 --> 01:25:41,240
Speaker 1: ears perk up, the potential repeal of Issue five, which

1503
01:25:41,960 --> 01:25:45,920
Speaker 1: people in the know knew back in two thousand and one.

1504
01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:48,439
Speaker 1: At some point this is going to bite us in

1505
01:25:48,479 --> 01:25:51,240
Speaker 1: the butt, and it looks like that period of time

1506
01:25:51,600 --> 01:25:53,680
Speaker 1: has come. Here to talk about it is a guy

1507
01:25:53,720 --> 01:25:58,439
Speaker 1: who knows about it. FOP President Lodge sixty nine, Ken Kover, Ken,

1508
01:25:58,479 --> 01:25:59,960
Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining us.

1509
01:26:01,040 --> 01:26:03,120
Speaker 7: Thank good, Mary, Mike, thanks for having my pleasure.

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01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:03,759
Speaker 2: My pleasure.

1511
01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:07,719
Speaker 1: It seems unequivalent to me. I mean, the FOP sixty

1512
01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:10,720
Speaker 1: nine is supporting Chief Fiji, correct.

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01:26:11,680 --> 01:26:14,000
Speaker 23: Absolutely, you know, but but this, this whole thing is

1514
01:26:14,240 --> 01:26:18,360
Speaker 23: much much bigger than just Chief Fiji. The way that

1515
01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:21,640
Speaker 23: she's been treated. Yea, a thirty five year veteran of

1516
01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:25,360
Speaker 23: this police department deserves to be treated better, because if

1517
01:26:25,360 --> 01:26:26,960
Speaker 23: they'll treat the chief like this, how.

1518
01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:28,200
Speaker 7: Are they going to treat a police officer? Amen.

1519
01:26:28,479 --> 01:26:31,479
Speaker 23: That's that's why everybody's all rout up about this.

1520
01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:35,120
Speaker 1: It speaks volumes. I mean, it really does. The other

1521
01:26:35,160 --> 01:26:36,800
Speaker 1: thing I heard, I don't know whether it's true or not.

1522
01:26:36,840 --> 01:26:38,599
Speaker 1: I've heard it from a couple of different people is

1523
01:26:39,160 --> 01:26:41,920
Speaker 1: for the thirty four to thirty five years, she doesn't

1524
01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:45,240
Speaker 1: have anything negative in her jacket, which I think you

1525
01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:48,280
Speaker 1: would agree if that's accurate, that's that's pretty impressive.

1526
01:26:49,439 --> 01:26:51,599
Speaker 23: Well, sure, absolutely. And you know, in just two months

1527
01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:54,559
Speaker 23: ago you had the mayor that was praising her, how

1528
01:26:54,680 --> 01:26:56,680
Speaker 23: how much confidence he had in the work that she

1529
01:26:56,840 --> 01:26:59,519
Speaker 23: was doing, and then all of a sudden, two weeks

1530
01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:02,640
Speaker 23: from election, and you know she somehow is is just

1531
01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:05,320
Speaker 23: not fit to be the police chief, which to me

1532
01:27:05,439 --> 01:27:07,200
Speaker 23: is certainly concerning.

1533
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:09,599
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, and I agree with you.

1534
01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:12,519
Speaker 1: What do you think the reason for that treatment is?

1535
01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:15,920
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously it's political in nature. It just it

1536
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:18,799
Speaker 1: seems like some of the stuff's come out of nowhere.

1537
01:27:19,160 --> 01:27:21,080
Speaker 1: I guess it's because it's a silly season.

1538
01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:24,800
Speaker 23: But what do you think, Well, it goes back to

1539
01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:28,560
Speaker 23: her last press conference that they did the day before

1540
01:27:28,600 --> 01:27:31,120
Speaker 23: they ordered her back when she was out of town

1541
01:27:31,160 --> 01:27:34,400
Speaker 23: representing the city in the police department. And in that

1542
01:27:34,439 --> 01:27:38,639
Speaker 23: press conference, her last words that she said was cops

1543
01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:39,880
Speaker 23: are going to go out and do their job, and

1544
01:27:39,880 --> 01:27:41,679
Speaker 23: I'm going to back you one hundred percent.

1545
01:27:41,720 --> 01:27:44,680
Speaker 7: We've got to do this, yep. And that was like

1546
01:27:44,720 --> 01:27:45,360
Speaker 7: the final straw.

1547
01:27:45,439 --> 01:27:47,559
Speaker 23: It's like, oh my gosh, we can't have proactive policing,

1548
01:27:48,280 --> 01:27:50,320
Speaker 23: we can't have all this stuff going on. And I

1549
01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:53,519
Speaker 23: talked to her after this, after that press conference, I

1550
01:27:53,520 --> 01:27:55,599
Speaker 23: talked to her and I'm like, listen, there's no doubt

1551
01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:56,680
Speaker 23: that you're going to support us.

1552
01:27:57,200 --> 01:27:59,760
Speaker 7: The question is is city Hall that's the problem.

1553
01:28:00,600 --> 01:28:03,240
Speaker 23: And that's I think was the final straw of where, Okay,

1554
01:28:03,400 --> 01:28:04,240
Speaker 23: we're done with this.

1555
01:28:04,400 --> 01:28:05,880
Speaker 7: We've got we've got to get her out of here,

1556
01:28:06,280 --> 01:28:06,479
Speaker 7: you know.

1557
01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:09,280
Speaker 1: And yeah, that's the problem obviously, and I guess it

1558
01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:10,280
Speaker 1: always has been.

1559
01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:13,040
Speaker 2: But you know, they need that support.

1560
01:28:13,080 --> 01:28:16,160
Speaker 1: And you and I have talked innumerable times ken about

1561
01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:19,720
Speaker 1: you know, people stick police officers, sticking their neck out

1562
01:28:19,760 --> 01:28:22,519
Speaker 1: when they know that they're not going to get backed up,

1563
01:28:22,600 --> 01:28:24,960
Speaker 1: and that's the problem. But hey, I wanted to read

1564
01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:28,759
Speaker 1: you something that that the mayor said, and it's from

1565
01:28:29,240 --> 01:28:32,400
Speaker 1: Channel nine and I don't understand this. Maybe you can

1566
01:28:32,439 --> 01:28:36,040
Speaker 1: help me. The mayor told reporters on Wednesday that placing

1567
01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:40,439
Speaker 1: the chief on leave makes the city safer because it

1568
01:28:40,600 --> 01:28:46,759
Speaker 1: provides strength and leadership and command control. My head's spinning,

1569
01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:48,760
Speaker 1: ken Kober, I mean, what do you make of that?

1570
01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:52,439
Speaker 7: It's absolute nonsense. You know.

1571
01:28:52,520 --> 01:28:54,280
Speaker 23: You know now we have we have Colonel Henny that's

1572
01:28:54,280 --> 01:28:57,400
Speaker 23: in charge of the police department right now, more than capable.

1573
01:28:57,760 --> 01:29:01,840
Speaker 23: He is the absolutely fantastic person, is a leader. If

1574
01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:05,040
Speaker 23: they allow him to lead, things will be better.

1575
01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:07,120
Speaker 7: But you could say the same thing about Chief Fiji.

1576
01:29:07,600 --> 01:29:08,920
Speaker 7: If City Hall would.

1577
01:29:08,800 --> 01:29:11,759
Speaker 23: Stay out of, you know, the day to day operations

1578
01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:14,559
Speaker 23: of the police department, she's more than capable of leading

1579
01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:16,200
Speaker 23: this place and it would be.

1580
01:29:16,120 --> 01:29:16,880
Speaker 7: A safer place.

1581
01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:20,040
Speaker 23: However, you know, this is all occurring because of failed

1582
01:29:20,080 --> 01:29:24,080
Speaker 23: policies yep from City Hall that have trickled into the

1583
01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:28,360
Speaker 23: police department. And the reality is, unless they allow Colonel

1584
01:29:28,360 --> 01:29:30,559
Speaker 23: Henny to run this department the way he sees fit,

1585
01:29:31,080 --> 01:29:32,880
Speaker 23: we're not going to see any change. We're going to

1586
01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:34,320
Speaker 23: have the same problems we have now.

1587
01:29:35,120 --> 01:29:39,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know that is pretty much what city

1588
01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:41,800
Speaker 1: council does. I think I wanted to read you one

1589
01:29:41,840 --> 01:29:45,519
Speaker 1: other thing that he said too that you know, I

1590
01:29:45,560 --> 01:29:49,120
Speaker 1: think it speaks volumes. Anyway, Mayor's quota is saying we

1591
01:29:49,200 --> 01:29:54,679
Speaker 1: need change and if I again and if I have

1592
01:29:54,720 --> 01:30:00,000
Speaker 1: to force change through arrests and through enforcement, then unfortunate,

1593
01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:03,519
Speaker 1: that's what we're going to have to do. Sounds to

1594
01:30:03,560 --> 01:30:05,679
Speaker 1: me like he wants to be the chief of police.

1595
01:30:06,920 --> 01:30:08,920
Speaker 23: Yeah, I've never seen him make an arrest. I've never

1596
01:30:08,920 --> 01:30:11,600
Speaker 23: seen him where you'll have a pair of handcuffs.

1597
01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:11,639
Speaker 12: In his hands.

1598
01:30:11,960 --> 01:30:16,320
Speaker 2: I mean it just but go ahead, I'm sorry, go ahead.

1599
01:30:17,080 --> 01:30:20,040
Speaker 23: But as all this is going on, you know, he

1600
01:30:20,160 --> 01:30:23,880
Speaker 23: has told me time after time that the chief Chief

1601
01:30:23,920 --> 01:30:27,759
Speaker 23: Figi is my law enforcement expert because I'm not a cop.

1602
01:30:28,240 --> 01:30:30,439
Speaker 23: But yet then he goes and does everything that is

1603
01:30:30,520 --> 01:30:33,320
Speaker 23: contrary to that statement, and that's why we're where we are.

1604
01:30:34,560 --> 01:30:38,439
Speaker 1: Your thoughts on the treatment of Chief Fiji, I mean,

1605
01:30:38,560 --> 01:30:41,679
Speaker 1: you know, one day they're not going to do anything.

1606
01:30:41,720 --> 01:30:43,320
Speaker 2: The next day they're taking job action.

1607
01:30:43,760 --> 01:30:47,200
Speaker 1: Now the city's hiring a law firm, I guess to

1608
01:30:47,439 --> 01:30:51,120
Speaker 1: critique her, Well, I don't know what expertise any law

1609
01:30:51,160 --> 01:30:53,960
Speaker 1: firm would have but just your thoughts in general on that.

1610
01:30:55,640 --> 01:30:58,080
Speaker 23: I mean, my thought on hiring this this law for

1611
01:30:58,160 --> 01:30:59,439
Speaker 23: him to do this is you might as well just

1612
01:30:59,479 --> 01:31:01,559
Speaker 23: throw money in burn barrel. Really, I mean this, this

1613
01:31:01,600 --> 01:31:03,880
Speaker 23: is crazy that we're going to spend money on something

1614
01:31:03,960 --> 01:31:07,040
Speaker 23: like this. The reality is, for whatever reason, they don't

1615
01:31:07,120 --> 01:31:09,760
Speaker 23: want her to be the chief, and there are so

1616
01:31:09,840 --> 01:31:12,599
Speaker 23: many different ways, better ways that they could have handled

1617
01:31:12,600 --> 01:31:16,320
Speaker 23: this instead of doing this publicly, you know, having her

1618
01:31:16,439 --> 01:31:19,280
Speaker 23: fly across the country only for her to land and go, oh,

1619
01:31:19,320 --> 01:31:21,200
Speaker 23: by the way, we need you back tomorrow. And they

1620
01:31:21,240 --> 01:31:23,960
Speaker 23: didn't fire her. It was, oh, we're going to ask

1621
01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:26,680
Speaker 23: you to resign. They're asking her to resign because they

1622
01:31:26,720 --> 01:31:29,519
Speaker 23: know there is nothing that she has done is worthy

1623
01:31:29,560 --> 01:31:32,519
Speaker 23: of her termination. But but you know, we're gonna be

1624
01:31:32,600 --> 01:31:34,240
Speaker 23: we're gonna put you on a ministrative leave, so we're

1625
01:31:34,240 --> 01:31:37,080
Speaker 23: gonna we're gonna keep you quiet, yeah, because you can't

1626
01:31:37,200 --> 01:31:39,599
Speaker 23: talk because if you do, then they'll find a reason

1627
01:31:39,600 --> 01:31:40,160
Speaker 23: to fire you.

1628
01:31:41,000 --> 01:31:41,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1629
01:31:41,400 --> 01:31:43,479
Speaker 7: And the whole thing is just absolute nonsense.

1630
01:31:43,520 --> 01:31:46,200
Speaker 1: It is, And you know, just at of any kind

1631
01:31:46,240 --> 01:31:49,400
Speaker 1: of a level, it's just not right. You don't treat

1632
01:31:49,439 --> 01:31:52,880
Speaker 1: people like that, and you certainly don't treat a person

1633
01:31:52,960 --> 01:31:56,160
Speaker 1: who's given thirty four I guess it is years to

1634
01:31:56,280 --> 01:31:59,840
Speaker 1: the City of Cincinnati in the Cincinnati Police Department.

1635
01:32:00,160 --> 01:32:01,040
Speaker 2: Just don't do that.

1636
01:32:01,160 --> 01:32:04,120
Speaker 1: I get politics, and sometimes you gotta do what you

1637
01:32:04,200 --> 01:32:08,320
Speaker 1: gotta do, but there's right and wrong and this ain't right.

1638
01:32:09,800 --> 01:32:12,040
Speaker 23: No, you're absolutely right, And the bottom line is you

1639
01:32:12,040 --> 01:32:14,720
Speaker 23: can blame her for crime all you want, but the

1640
01:32:14,800 --> 01:32:17,799
Speaker 23: reality is, and we've seen this, all of these shootings

1641
01:32:17,800 --> 01:32:20,360
Speaker 23: that have taken place, all the suspects are people that

1642
01:32:20,400 --> 01:32:21,120
Speaker 23: we're either.

1643
01:32:20,920 --> 01:32:23,800
Speaker 7: Out on a low or our.

1644
01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:28,360
Speaker 23: Bond, they're on community control, they're on probation. And the

1645
01:32:28,439 --> 01:32:30,679
Speaker 23: reality is the judges are the ones.

1646
01:32:30,520 --> 01:32:32,679
Speaker 7: That are ultimately going to have to fix us. Yep.

1647
01:32:32,760 --> 01:32:35,439
Speaker 23: And you're going to have to have people like Josh

1648
01:32:35,520 --> 01:32:39,479
Speaker 23: Berklewitz to get reelected. That's going to set high bonds

1649
01:32:39,520 --> 01:32:42,280
Speaker 23: for people that is going to take crime seriously. And

1650
01:32:42,320 --> 01:32:45,720
Speaker 23: unless things like that happen, we're going to continue to

1651
01:32:45,760 --> 01:32:46,840
Speaker 23: just spin our wheels.

1652
01:32:47,000 --> 01:32:48,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're right about that.

1653
01:32:48,640 --> 01:32:53,400
Speaker 1: And boy, the judiciary and each judge's individual, I get that,

1654
01:32:53,720 --> 01:32:57,519
Speaker 1: but the judiciary has changed quite a bit in this county.

1655
01:32:58,200 --> 01:33:00,920
Speaker 1: I got to ask you this, and this made me happy.

1656
01:33:01,080 --> 01:33:05,360
Speaker 1: When I saw the billboard. I didn't see it in person,

1657
01:33:05,400 --> 01:33:08,160
Speaker 1: if you will, I saw a picture of it that talks.

1658
01:33:07,880 --> 01:33:09,040
Speaker 2: About Issue five.

1659
01:33:09,479 --> 01:33:11,559
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, Ken Kober, I don't know where

1660
01:33:11,600 --> 01:33:14,600
Speaker 1: you were in two thousand and one, but those of

1661
01:33:14,720 --> 01:33:17,000
Speaker 1: us who knew a little bit of what we were

1662
01:33:17,040 --> 01:33:22,360
Speaker 1: talking about knew that at some point this thing, Issue

1663
01:33:22,400 --> 01:33:26,639
Speaker 1: five taking away civil service protection from the chief of police,

1664
01:33:26,960 --> 01:33:29,800
Speaker 1: was going to bite somebody in the butt, and that

1665
01:33:29,960 --> 01:33:34,040
Speaker 1: time has come. Is the FOP going to mount an

1666
01:33:34,080 --> 01:33:36,960
Speaker 1: effort because it'll have to get on the ballot, but

1667
01:33:37,080 --> 01:33:39,360
Speaker 1: mount an effort to get that thing repealed?

1668
01:33:40,520 --> 01:33:42,320
Speaker 23: Absolutely? You know, in two thousand and one, I was

1669
01:33:43,000 --> 01:33:46,200
Speaker 23: a very very young police department employee.

1670
01:33:47,280 --> 01:33:47,920
Speaker 7: When I saw it.

1671
01:33:47,960 --> 01:33:50,240
Speaker 23: When it happened in two thousand and one, I'm like, man,

1672
01:33:50,280 --> 01:33:52,720
Speaker 23: this is not going to be good. You know, Keith

1673
01:33:52,760 --> 01:33:55,479
Speaker 23: Hygman was the president. Oh yeah, I'm the FOP, and

1674
01:33:55,720 --> 01:33:57,280
Speaker 23: I heard what he had to say about it, I

1675
01:33:57,320 --> 01:34:00,559
Speaker 23: heard what all the people that were running the FOP

1676
01:34:00,760 --> 01:34:02,640
Speaker 23: had to say about it. I'm like, yeah, this this

1677
01:34:02,800 --> 01:34:06,240
Speaker 23: is likely going to be bad. And unfortunately, here we

1678
01:34:06,280 --> 01:34:08,559
Speaker 23: are twenty four years later and we're seeing just that.

1679
01:34:09,320 --> 01:34:12,600
Speaker 23: We are absolutely going to be mounting an effort.

1680
01:34:12,479 --> 01:34:13,080
Speaker 7: To change it.

1681
01:34:13,280 --> 01:34:15,840
Speaker 23: I'm not I'm not suggesting that we necessarily repeal it,

1682
01:34:16,120 --> 01:34:18,400
Speaker 23: because I don't think the citizens in the city are

1683
01:34:18,680 --> 01:34:21,080
Speaker 23: going to be okay with going back to the way

1684
01:34:21,120 --> 01:34:24,240
Speaker 23: things were. But what I do think is that we

1685
01:34:24,280 --> 01:34:27,160
Speaker 23: need to find a happy medium, something that everybody can

1686
01:34:27,200 --> 01:34:30,000
Speaker 23: live with. But the ultimate goal is the chief has

1687
01:34:30,080 --> 01:34:34,559
Speaker 23: got to have some kind of protection from one person

1688
01:34:34,920 --> 01:34:38,160
Speaker 23: terminating them and this person the city manager. Now and

1689
01:34:38,200 --> 01:34:41,519
Speaker 23: this isn't a slam on shere along, but the city

1690
01:34:41,600 --> 01:34:45,160
Speaker 23: manager alone. They're they're appointed, They're they're not even elected

1691
01:34:45,200 --> 01:34:47,960
Speaker 23: by the public. How are we going to allow somebody

1692
01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:50,000
Speaker 23: that's appointed to make the decision whether or not the

1693
01:34:50,000 --> 01:34:52,080
Speaker 23: fire chief, the police chief is going to be fired.

1694
01:34:52,320 --> 01:34:54,120
Speaker 23: And what have we seen? You know, they fired the

1695
01:34:54,520 --> 01:34:58,639
Speaker 23: fire chief last year and that has been an absolute disaster.

1696
01:34:59,479 --> 01:35:01,880
Speaker 23: Now we have the going on with Chief Fiji. The

1697
01:35:01,920 --> 01:35:05,400
Speaker 23: council of the elected people of this city need to

1698
01:35:05,520 --> 01:35:07,479
Speaker 23: be able to have some say so as.

1699
01:35:07,360 --> 01:35:10,880
Speaker 7: To what goes on, you know.

1700
01:35:11,160 --> 01:35:14,280
Speaker 1: And the other thing too, I think what has to

1701
01:35:14,360 --> 01:35:17,680
Speaker 1: happen is the chief has to have some and I

1702
01:35:17,760 --> 01:35:20,680
Speaker 1: get a happy medium. The chief has to have that

1703
01:35:20,760 --> 01:35:24,280
Speaker 1: civil service protection because I'll tell you what, if you're

1704
01:35:24,320 --> 01:35:28,880
Speaker 1: talking about Tom Striker or Larry Whalen, we wouldn't be

1705
01:35:28,920 --> 01:35:31,800
Speaker 1: going through that crap because they wouldn't have any of it,

1706
01:35:31,880 --> 01:35:34,160
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Well.

1707
01:35:34,040 --> 01:35:37,200
Speaker 23: That's the whole reason that came about is because Chief

1708
01:35:37,240 --> 01:35:40,200
Speaker 23: Striker ran the department the way that he thought was best,

1709
01:35:41,439 --> 01:35:44,920
Speaker 23: and they hated that he didn't have to succumb to

1710
01:35:45,120 --> 01:35:48,439
Speaker 23: pressure from city hall. And city hall hated that at

1711
01:35:48,439 --> 01:35:51,080
Speaker 23: the time, you know, they hated that. You're like, there's

1712
01:35:51,120 --> 01:35:53,600
Speaker 23: nothing we can do to him. And then, believe me,

1713
01:35:53,840 --> 01:35:56,160
Speaker 23: we were thankful, you know, to have a chief that

1714
01:35:56,200 --> 01:35:58,640
Speaker 23: would able to stand up the city Hall and be

1715
01:35:58,640 --> 01:36:01,040
Speaker 23: able to say and do what they thought was best.

1716
01:36:01,680 --> 01:36:04,360
Speaker 23: But it was something that you know, this whole politics and.

1717
01:36:04,360 --> 01:36:07,719
Speaker 7: Policing, this is where we're at because of this exactly.

1718
01:36:07,960 --> 01:36:09,160
Speaker 7: So there have to be changed.

1719
01:36:09,400 --> 01:36:11,360
Speaker 1: There has to be And do you want the City

1720
01:36:11,360 --> 01:36:15,439
Speaker 1: of Cincinnati, I'm asking this rhetorically to become a police

1721
01:36:15,439 --> 01:36:20,439
Speaker 1: department like Chicago Portland where the politicians do run it.

1722
01:36:21,000 --> 01:36:21,839
Speaker 2: I think we.

1723
01:36:21,640 --> 01:36:25,599
Speaker 1: Were very well served for a lot of years doing

1724
01:36:25,640 --> 01:36:28,759
Speaker 1: it the way where there was a civil service test

1725
01:36:29,120 --> 01:36:31,840
Speaker 1: for chief and you know, and the chief had civil

1726
01:36:31,880 --> 01:36:35,400
Speaker 1: service protection and if there's a happy median out there

1727
01:36:35,479 --> 01:36:38,000
Speaker 1: that people think could get passed by the electorate.

1728
01:36:38,240 --> 01:36:39,800
Speaker 2: Hey man, I'm all for it.

1729
01:36:40,000 --> 01:36:42,320
Speaker 1: I'm all for it, and I think there's going to

1730
01:36:42,360 --> 01:36:45,160
Speaker 1: be a lot of people, can Kober that will want

1731
01:36:45,200 --> 01:36:48,040
Speaker 1: to work on that campaign, and I'll tell you I'll

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Speaker 1: be the first one in line.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 23: Absolutely, I said, this is this is something that is

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Speaker 23: so much bigger, you know, than what's going on right now.

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Speaker 23: This is going to change who could be a leader

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Speaker 23: in this department for the next fifty years.

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Speaker 7: Yep. But it's something that absolutely has to be done.

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Speaker 7: You know, as long as I'm.

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Speaker 23: In the position that I'm in, I'm going to do

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Speaker 23: everything I can to make sure that this changes that

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Speaker 23: that it happens.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad you're on top of it. Hey, we're out

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Speaker 2: of time, Ken.

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate your point of view on this and

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Speaker 1: hope we can call on you in the future.

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Speaker 7: Yeah. Sure, thanks for having me, Mike, Okay.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Well there you go. I mean, you heard it from

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Speaker 1: the horse's mouth. The FOP is going to mount a

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Speaker 1: challenge to Issue five, which you know that's not an

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Speaker 1: easy thing to do, but I know those police officers

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Speaker 1: and if they make up of their mind that they're

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Speaker 1: going to try to fight something, they'll do it. And

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Speaker 1: this is appropriate to do that too, because it just

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Speaker 1: it changes the UH. I don't know the attitude complexion,

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Speaker 1: whatever you want to say in the police department when

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Speaker 1: it's run by politicians, and that should not be anyway.

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Speaker 1: I am out of here. Be back next week. What

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Speaker 1: the fank might produce? Liam for keeping me out of trouble?

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Speaker 1: As always in talk to next Saturday Mike aallon Saturday midday.

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Speaker 30: Excuse me, I know you have a nine o'clock, so

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Speaker 30: I'll keep this short. I'm the business suit in the

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Speaker 30: back of your closet. You wore me nearly every day

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