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Speaker 2: From last week's game.

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Speaker 2: What's up? Hondo's going to check in with you again, man,

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Speaker 3: Hey? It's good to have you on. I gotta tell

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Speaker 3: you I love your station. I do hundreds of interviews

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Speaker 4: You know the game.

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Speaker 3: You don't ask stupid questions. If I lived in Denver,

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Speaker 3: I would totally keep it locked on your station.

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Speaker 4: Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 3: You guys really do an excellent, excellent job.

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Speaker 1: Well Hondo, You're now one of our favorite guests, and

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Speaker 2: Well we really appreciate it, all right.

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Speaker 1: So so for this game, I mean, I definitely want

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Speaker 3: Why is that, Well, because you have a completely dysfunctional organization,

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Speaker 3: And that's just the hardcore reality of where this franchise

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Speaker 3: You can't pretend it isn't the reality, and you can't pretend.

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Speaker 3: And so with the Raiders, they've got to make a decision.

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Speaker 3: And I'm just going to tell you right now, the Raiders.

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Speaker 2: Excuse me, how does that dysfunction?

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Speaker 3: All right, great, I'm going to answer that very thorough

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Speaker 3: He is a great coach. You're not hiring him to

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Speaker 3: But whoever it is, somebody has to be the definitive voice.

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Speaker 2: So for this game, I don't know. Man.

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Speaker 1: Max Crosby is one of my favorite players. In the

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Speaker 3: to be down two receivers, and they already traded Jacoby

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Speaker 3: Michael Mayer. I mean, and they're all but I expect

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Speaker 5: You talk a little bit about Brock Bauers the player,

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Speaker 5: kind of the entirety of his skill set. I mean,

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Speaker 5: we see that he catches a lot of passes. He's

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Speaker 5: obviously a very dynamic pass catcher. What's he like in

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Speaker 5: the running game. Does he do all the little stuff

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Speaker 5: like you know, like George Kittle does for example, where

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Speaker 5: he can do it all? Is that the kind of

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Speaker 5: player that Brock Bauers is is or is going to

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna address it this way.

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Speaker 4: Great question again. No, that's exactly why.

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Speaker 3: I love your station, Rock Bowers, And let me start

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Speaker 3: at the most important thing. Rock Bauers is the guy

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Speaker 3: every dad wants his daughter to marry, and not because

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Speaker 3: he's a millionaire NFL player. It's because he's an even

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Speaker 3: better human being. He's just absolute of the earth kid.

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Speaker 3: On top of it, he is a freak. He is.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you how one NFL executive described him to

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Speaker 3: me at the NFL Owners meetings. He said, that's a

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Speaker 3: he bulked up. He is a unicorn. And I love

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Speaker 3: George Kittle. I think George Kittle is probably the second best.

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Speaker 4: Tight end in the entire NFL.

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Speaker 3: I love Kittle. Kittle isn't in brock bowers his league.

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Speaker 3: And that's not disrespect to Kittle. It is just absolute

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Speaker 3: unbelievable the way brock Bauers plays. If he's not practicing,

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Speaker 3: he's watching film, and he is just a unicorn. I

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Speaker 3: have covered this game for decades, multiple NFL teams. I've

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Speaker 3: two years in. And I'm gonna make this prediction. If

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Speaker 3: he stays healthy, he will go into the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 3: And I do not make those lightly. I don't participate

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Speaker 3: in hyperbole. He is literally that good. All of the

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Speaker 3: plays that you've seen him make, I have seen him

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Speaker 3: make fifty better ones in practice. I watched him one

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Speaker 4: His back to the ball, and caught it.

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Speaker 3: And when I asked him about he goes, yeah, I

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Speaker 4: Just telling you.

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Speaker 3: And what makes him incredibly special is he is absolutely

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Speaker 4: And he goes, you know, I just really humbled.

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Speaker 3: I was shocked that they recognized me. And I just

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Speaker 3: He's just a great player. And there's an old country

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Speaker 3: telling you, Rock Bauers doesn't know he's great.

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Speaker 4: I asked him recently.

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Speaker 3: I said, you know, Brock, you're playing so well when

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Speaker 3: And he said, when the.

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Speaker 4: Team's failing, I'm not playing good enough. So no, when

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Speaker 4: I put in the.

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Speaker 3: Film, I don't think I'm playing well. I mean, that's

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Speaker 3: don't care what team you root for.

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Speaker 4: You root for good people like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt, great, great insight, just very quickly.

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Speaker 1: So there's a lot of Broncos fans that also loved

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Speaker 1: him at pick twelve last year instead of bo Nicks.

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Speaker 1: Of course, we're happy with the return so far this year.

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Speaker 1: Team's playing pretty well, but there are still some Broncos

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Speaker 1: fans that bring up Brock Bowers, especially when he has

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Speaker 1: that one headed catch last week. If the Broncos had

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Speaker 1: Browers at twelve.

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Speaker 2: Did the Raiders take bow Nicks.

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Speaker 3: No, bow Knicks was not on very many teams, Radar.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna be very honest with you. Bo Knicks is

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Speaker 3: a wonderful kid. He's another one of those human beings

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Speaker 3: think that the Broncos over picked Nicks. The Raiders were

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Speaker 3: not interested in him, and a lot of they were

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Speaker 4: Now, that tells you.

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Speaker 3: How good of a coach Sean is. Sean was able

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Speaker 3: to say, Okay, this is Bo's weaknesses and I'm not

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Speaker 3: going to ask Sean Bo to do what he can't do,

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Speaker 3: so I know that this. The Raiders were shocked that

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Speaker 3: Denver didn't take them. The Rams were furiously trying to

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Speaker 3: trade up to get them to get Bowers, and the

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Speaker 3: Raiders were not willing to trade. Once they knew we were,

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Speaker 2: Them good stuff.

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Speaker 1: Hondo always great insight, man, Thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: the time to I appreciate you.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate all you guys. Keep up the great work,

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Speaker 3: all right, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Tono Carpenter at Hondo Carpenter on Twitter covers the Raiders

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Speaker 1: for us.

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Speaker 2: I a lot of love insight there, man.

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Speaker 3: Wow,